How to get kicked out of K1 Speed Indoor Kart Racing
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2015
- Skip to 5:10 for the crash
My coworkers and I decided to head out to K1 Speed and have some fun as a team. It ended fairly quickly when our designer and I got kicked out. As you can see, there wasn't a whole lot I could do. Will there never be peace between designers and developers?
For those of you who follow my motovlogs, I have a ton of content recorded and I intend to edit and upload it soon.
Only got two good laps in, but my best time was 30.9s. If you're here in Austin and have raced this track before, post your time! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Guy kicked you both out to cover his abysmal marshalling skills.
yep
This is just like iracing
Wouldn't be going back there ever again. They look crap anyway. Marshal can stick his carts where the sun doesn't shine for being so incompetent. Karma will get him back.
The marshal couldn’t have done anything ethier if you replay it you can see he entered the corner as the accident happened
Such bs move, and this comes froma ex racing marshall AND someone working on a kart track.
im a supervisor at k1 san diego there was no reason for them to take you out of the race. they did not wave a yellow flag and if the kart did break they should have switched it.
Joel Barranco how do you guys compare to sykart is it the same rules ?
Joel Barranco uu
Itchy Itchiford it’s only one rule. Don’t bump into other karts
Dawg if you were a super, you would know that if a kart is broken the customer does not get a new one, read your manual. Usually kicking people out like this is because they have been black flagged before.
Yeah, that guy is just about the biggest idiot I have ever seen. "the nature of the accident".... The guy spun out in a corner behind and was obscured by polls and the guy with the cam would not have been looking at that point at the track until he got right up on it. He had very little time to break which he did and turned sideways to scrub even more speed. Lame.
Wait so the guy spins, you can't see him cause of the flagsman in front of the turn, who should be on the other side of that wall for that exact reason, and you spin trying not to hit him and get kicked out?! That's absolutely moronic
+dhawerd That's pretty much exactly what happened.
+dhawerd Basically the reason why Is cause from their point of view They think you were drifting around the corner which in some Go-Kart races they do that.. I've even done it before and it doesn't end well.. So Some advice Nathan.. When you see a car crashes just take it slow Many times Flagmen and officials will do that so You gotta just slow the car past.. They aren't allowed to pass anyway since their is a crash and It'd result under Yellow.
You kidding me with the advices
Jackson Cage the yelliw flag was not issued though so therefore the guy ws aware to slow down for the incident not his fault at all and it was clearly not a drift. Im a professional go karter and in all my years have i seen people drifting the karts
LOL it basically comes down to most of these K1 employees are idiots. I actually got yelled at for going to fast under green flag conditions. I never went back after that because they act like it's a professional league when it's just recreational Karting.
Yea you shouldn't have been kicked out or even in trouble. 100% not your fault
i see no flags not your fault dude :)
Unfortunately, my X-Ray vision was on the fritz that day... Totally should've seen that wreck =P
Ty rie the crazy guy White people 21 first century. Did you just assume my gender 😂
BioDiesel112 the guy clearly has a yellow flag
ZErO GRaViTY where?
Tsxtasy1 5:17 guy in the right
wait a minute the guy spins and the marshal is NOT waving the yellow flag it is up to the marshals to let the driver know if there is an accident or anything dangerous ahead
The Cat of Tens these peope are trained to follow a car going trough the corner and know where is crash most likely happens
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Vote that up so you wont waste so much time on that boring driving
Thx fam
It’s in the description so you shouldn’t take credit but thanks for showing all of the non description readers!
From a k1 speed track official (me) that was not your fault, the flagger should have been waving the yellow flag (caution) but the video proves other wise, you should have been able to keep going and finish the race
+fox racer Thanks.
I totally understand being overly cautious, but I asked to atleast get a refund for the race and showed them the video. They wouldn't have it, which was pretty lame.
@@NathanRJones Which K1 location?
@@liamturner6135 Austin, TX
lmao i work at k1 right now, thats not your fault. dude flagger needs to be watching ALL karters not just the ones coming up to him, should of cautioned you or slowed the karts down a bit due to it being a blind spot type of thing
@@skinnycol809 The flagger should pay special attention to blind corners. Are employees especially flagger required to run a lap of the track to identify trouble spots before beginning a job as a flagger?
That is complete BS and I would have taken that video to the owner or higher up. There was no way for you to see that and avoid it. Your driving was spot on and in always in complete control.
amen he really didnt have time to even take action
Rex Racer rs
The owner “or higher up” whose higher up than the owner lmao?
@@jaywilkins2093 he means owner or, if the owners not there, a higher up
Not to mention that the negligence of the marshall is a serious safety hazard.
Their track rules suck
It's international rules pretty much in Go-Karting and that's drivers must follows marshals instructions whilst on the track, he did just that, didn't see a yellow or red meaning track all clear...
If I was the one getting kicked off for accidentally hitting someone who was spun-out I would be mad as shit, because that's ridiculous.
This wasn't a driver's fault.
Will they give him money back or they just don't give a shit
Does no one even consider that maybe this is just to make sure everyone and the equipment are safe and unhurt? Of course not, it's always about "but I'm right and fuck authority". Assholes
No, the karts were designed to withstand crashes like that, hence the bumpers... and it wasn't his fault, it was the guy who was spun out and the flag guy who was blocking his view
wow for real. money back or something. that's y I don't go to k1. that wasn't your fault. were was the flag.
Yeah I stopped for a read since it's drifrent in the UK and I got rear ended so flipin hard the fuel tank broke and the other stupid kids where blocking the track and the people didn't care I was like what the flip and they blamed me for the accident and the others got extra time 😡
Corner worker doesn't throw yellow for spin, blames driver blindsided by the pole in the middle of the line of sight and kicks you out.
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+RARChevette ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah everybody is on your side on this one. You were probably the best driver on the track when that happened and that was totally unavoidable
That's really stupid you both got kicked off! The person in front of you couldn't help for spinning out, there should've been a warning and you couldn't see around the turn to begin with. Crashes happen but by all means, that was a legit unintentional accident. I blame the people who were watching, kicking both of you off is dumb. They should be more concerned about both of your safeties! The polite thing to do is to walk it off and then hope back in. If I was the manager, I would've said something to all of them!
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Dang that whole paragraph
the marshal wasn't even waving the yellow flag so not your fault atal
that spin happened right b4 the the corner the marshal had no time to flag it was 1 second later. but they were wrong in kicking him out that is one of many reasons why I don't race @ K1 slow cause my battery was over charged
A few years ago at the Arizona location, i had a really nasty crash. There was a hairpin turn that was at the end of a straight and i just hit the brake slightly too hard and i spun out sideways bringing me to a complete stop. About 2 seconds later the guy behind me going full speed tboned me. It didnt hurt much but his cart ended up partially on top on mine so everyone freaked out lol. They asked me if i was alright then i was back to racing. Its dumb how you got kicked out for something minor like that.
The Austin K1 doesn't take shit from anyone.
I'm sure K1 Speed in Austin gets a lot of business, so they can afford to dictate their races that way. When you're actually out to get some decent lap times in, it's something you can really appreciate! I'll be going there in October so I'm curious to see just how strict they are.
At K1 Arlington I've never had a problem with getting in trouble for unintentional crashes not have I seen it. Maybe it's because I league race so I know the workers and they know who I am but the other day I was there with my friend who karts as well and we had much more pace and the people ahead didn't obey the blue flag or the "LET PASS" sign we both were all over his tail and eventually got past but later in the race I hit the back of a girl who braked in a flat out sweeper. I was full on the brakes and the kart yawed a bit but there was nothing I could have done. After the race one of the guys pulled me aside while going back to the pit and said that something was wrong with the kart (it was making noises) then he sent it to the back and said its not your fault. It happens. It makes me feel more comfortable knowing they know what they're talking anoit
What's funny is I raced at the same location and I've seen the very same accident right in front of the tunnel. The guys that work there are really nice like Jake. (the manager)
Mike Arnold I also had an incident at the AZ location. Right before the tunnel in the turn, some dude squeezed me out of the corner with no time to react but I ended up getting kicked out and had some neck pains afterwards, but after I explained what happened they gave me my money back for that race along with a free race.
kinda bullshit to throw someone out for a wreck they couldn't control. it was a blind corner and that guy was sitting in the racing groove. i know they have policies about horseplay and being rough, but that was just an accident.
Drive flawlessly with no mistakes
Guy infront makes a mistake and the refs don't warn it. Due to that you bump into the kart. Ref "sorry you need to go"
Fallout guy:Excuse me wtf?
not your fault. Btw your a good driver
Ha yeah, I don't think it was my fault. And thanks!
he didn't want to get kicked out it was obviously an accident and an un avoidable one at that!
I've been competing in karting for a while now, I can tell yeah at the first two sectors you're alright, but at the last one you cocked it up a bit. Overtaking needs a work but you've got raw talent!
By the way, you couldn't see him, neither were flags raised. Not your fault
@@NathanRJones there are few people that post gopro footage that can actually drive. You have skills.
Thanks. I've only been on this carts a couple times and I was definitely losing speed by being too aggressive, but I was leading up until I got kicked out.
Can you feather the throttle in the electric karts? Also, I'm not sure why you would be kicked out over that incident. The spin was partially obscured by the pole and flag guy. There was very little time for you to react. I don't believe you acted in an unsafe manner--it was just racing incident
You can feather the throttle
cryogeneric yes you can but it slows you down dramatically
Also strange thing about electric carts is that they stall if you press the brake and accelerator pedal at the same time.
@@MEISURHUSBAND thats actually not strange. Its a built in kill switch so that you dont rise the brakes and put extreme wear and tear on the karts
In my experience, you can "sort of" feather the throttle. It is a lot more "on, off" than a gas throttle cable. Best to brake late and hard and punch it on the apex. Most of the time you can just let off the gas and let the kart brake itself into the turn.
Rewatched it a couples times; no fellow flag, no intentional ‘drift’, no reckless driving. I can’t see anything wrong with what u did. Hope you got your money back xD
Honestly there really wasn't much that could be of been done to avoid it. You shouldn't of been kicked out. Unfortunately every center runs by different rules and tolerances.
+Jj5cool1 I'm sure it was a CYA type of thing. They didn't see what happened and there was a collision, so they had to make an example.
Nothing wrong on your part, no flags and that pole obstructed your veiw
I'd ask for money back or something, could of shown the video to them and they would of been in the same situation.
I did. They weren't very interested in hearing my side of the story at the time.
if you pay with your credit card then dispute the charge
Next time call corporate. They have a phone number.
why didnt you send it to a higher up because thats not accetaple
Make sure to file a complaint with the BBB and they'll talk to higher administration and you'll for sure get a refund and probably compensation
stuff like this (that is, showing their employees making incorrect assumptions) is probably why they told me i couldn't use my action camera last time i went (houston location)
This video is unnecessarily long for a 40 second incident
He's a good driver, so it worth it
Thats some incredibly awesome pov driving footage.
I don’t think the flagsman really understood the laws of motion
I just went racing at K1 and literally got RUN OVER (as in, his kart ended up on top of me before it stopped), and they still didn't kick him out, or really reprimand him in any way. The way it happened was someone pit maneuvered me and then the guy behind him apparently didn't think to use his brakes and went quick enough to end up on top of me and my kart. No apology, no real concern whatsoever. Have some gnarly bruises. The steering wheel mount was completely broken from it.
If you got thrown out for this, the guys running the race must not have been paying attention, heard the noise, and assumed you were to blame (though you could've braked a tad earlier or just gone around like the guy behind you did). This is actually a fairly common karting incident, especially with weekend crowds, so that's definitely overkill by removing you from the race. Karting places tend to be really inconsistent with their assessments of individual situations, but in my opinion, the guy that spun out in front of you should've gotten a warning to be more careful and you probably should've received one as well to pay more attention to what's going on in front of you instead of kicking you out.
There were two cars racing ahead of him just fine. They wrecked but were behind a pole and a fat guy. There wasn't really much he could have seen to avoid getting collected.
There really wasn’t anything he could’ve done.... if you watch going into the corner it was fine... as he cleared the Apex, he then sees the guy was turned around at a complete stop. You can’t really say he could’ve gotten on the brakes sooner, cuz he finished is braking prior to the corner. He hits the apex and should be getting on the gas to be surprised by the spun kart. With no warning from the flagged. The driver can’t be at fault. On top of that, the track is etched concrete, even if you get on the brakes earlier and harder, with your kart not going straight the thing is just going to slide..... totally not the drivers fault. There is nothing he could’ve done if he was racing at full speed like he was.
It's as if you watched the clip and determined that whoever crashes is wrong. Other dude spun, don't know how that's an immediate warning but I understand as well. But to say the recorded could have braked earlier (He couldn't see with his vision obscured) and to say he could have turned right is complete bullshit. He tried to avoid the accident, hit the brakes and spun out into the dude so both your points have been proven otherwise. Also shows the lack of complete grip to just make a turn at that speed. The third guy had a better angle of the impact considering the placement of the recorder's kart and as a result, was able to slow down easier and turn through the gap
Was that at the Dublin, CA location?
This looks exactly like the K1 I go to occasionally, are they all the same?
Same thing happened to me at our track last weekend. There's nothing you can do and it's a pretty hard hit. Although I knew, it made me realize you can get hurt on their karts. I would've let this go assuming both of you guys had been running clean the whole time you were there. I think you were, don't know about the other guy.
+kewlfx I had definitely been pushing my kart, but hadn't had any contact before. I've actually been in worse accidents where I stopped to avoid someone and had people run over my kart.
I actually had a kart stopped on top of mine and my arms were pinned under it. It wasn't comfortable by any means, but it wasn't painful. I don't think you could get very seriously injured there, but you should definitely try be careful.
Not your fault at all, there was no yellow flag or anything. Nice driving !
They've really changed the layout in Austin since then, twice actually. But from the last one to the current the changes aren't as drastic. I never raced it on the layout you did, looks fun, now they have a lot of fast to slow transitions not so many turns. Fastest lap for me in the last layout was 28.616, on the current track 32.699
The guy had just spun so the marshal didn’t have enough time to wave the yellow flag because u were close to him so i dont think we can blame this on anyone
What did the official at the end of the video even say?
Same question here
It's obvious you attempted to avoid him so it's definitely not fair either of you were kicked for that.
Did you show the footage to k1?
And is so, what did they do about it?
And IF so
Man Hahah still looking forward to your next motovlogxD
NOT your fault. That flagman was watching the incoming traffic on the other side of the track giving his back to the your turn that he "supposed" to be watching ! he never saw your crash.
DON'T let stupid things like this makes you stop racing because idiots shouldn't slow you down !
Bad workmanship here. Nothing was signaled, and you cant even see the kart stopped until he rounded the corner. I have raced at K1 in Orlando,FL and its fun, but overpriced
Watching this over, the red padding on the post totally obscures the view of the spun out racer until the last second when Nathan spins into him.
Where was this at?
That was neither one of your faults, just a genuine mistake! Unavoidable, definitely did not deserve to be kicked off for it...
I’ll never go there....
I've had that happen before. After graduation, a couple of my friends and I went to an indoor go-kart track to celebrate. One friend spun the other one out in a blind corner. I t-boned him right as I was getting back on the gas and apparently broke some pieces off of our karts. We were allowed to finish the race in 2 mph limp mode but were then made to sign papers afterwards saying we would not sue and would never ride their go karts again. They closed down anyway so no big loss I guess.
they closed down because they were sued by someone else :D
Did you get in trouble or did they just want the karts?
How is that your fault
+Fabulous Gamer probably because a kart was damaged.
That's irrelevant to the fact that it wasn't his fault.
It totally wasn't, I'm not saying it was. The person he hit spun out in a blind spot. Guy had no time to react. And sometimes, there isn't much that can be done to prevent crashes like this, they just happen.
+Luxo087 That's exactly what happened. As soon as I did see him, the kart didn't have nearly enough traction to adjust my line to the outside. He was exactly where I wanted to go.
I'll tell you about the gnarliest crash I saw. Kart spun out in a blind spot right in the apex in a hairpin, foundation pole was in the way, the other guy couldn't see the kart that was right behind it, similar scenario to that of this video. And this is right after the straightaway, so the karts are hauling ass. Anyway another kart entered the hairpin and hit it, and the kart that hit the guy that was spun out actually launched 5 feet in the air, and completely jumped over the kart that got hit, and it nosedived about 6 feet away. I almost shat myself. I was right by the hairpin watching the race, waiting for my turn when it happened.
Hows that your fault when there was no yellow flag??? It was a blind corner with no warning. Clearly you tried to avoid the collision
Wow you must have been doing at least 10mph ..... impressive
What location is this
I really hope you got your money back this wasn’t even your fault the guy didn’t wave the yellow flag.
Why do the tracks suck when i watch these? Like i've been in alot better indoor tracks!
Are you in Austin?
Was wanting to check them out, thanks for the warning
Its why K1 and electric karts suck.
How fast are these??
dude nice control on corner entry u were really rockin it
Thanks!
Yea ur welcome
How fast do these go
The corner marshall not only did not wave the yellow, he was not even watching his corner.
So the guys spins in a high speed corner, the barrier and flagmen stand right in the view of the apex, and they say its your fault?
it seems like k1 tends to have less than great marshaling at some locations. i had an experience recently in denver where someone two karts ahead of me was going slowly and got a blue flag, let the person directly behind get half a kart length ahead, then overtake them and ignore persistent blue flags and pit signs. didn’t get a black flag even though they directly ignored the stewards and the basic rules of racing.
Is that the one In Austin
Last week, at the Toronto location, I’d gone wide through a hairpin after the long straight+ fast right hander to pass a car that was on a different line…once I passed, the slower car apparently tboned me at high speed, he didn’t get kicked, Marshall saw me shake it off and drive off, gave the guy a stern talking to, and that’s it. How you could have avoided that accident is beyond me. You should have shouted : MICHAEL, IT’S NOT RIGHT!
Wait why did you get kicked out?
I work at a K1 Ive yet to see anyone removed even after a KART ON KART more times than I can count. Even after grown adult racers aim their karts at smaller racers. I finally found out and started the rule to be put on a green square to run at the highest speed you must run at our track consistent non bumping or slamming/crashing into barriers/walls/other Karts to obtain the Top Speed Green Squares. Had the mother of a small daughter that was tall enough to race to the smallest inch within the limits. First lap at speed the mother slammed into the daughter hard hit. When we got to her she was dazed then convulsed. Shocked told the mother who didn’t even turn to her daughter to check on her then calmly said oh she has epilepsy. We asked do you wanted to check on her as we had the field stopped. She replied no you can push her off the track so we can race. Again it was the Mom who wrecked her. Pushed her off into the pits allowed her to sit in the kart in the pits until the race was over sat with her giving her water and cool wet wash cloth until calm. Because I have a daughter I pictured my daughter sitting there. See the just big enough for the adult karts roughed up and like the before in this beginning of this post get away with it. I started my daughter at 5 in Orlando at Lil 500 she went threw each graduation to fast karts family owned track knew and practiced the limits in speed when racing with smaller children because of Father Don Schmidt Sr & JR and their daughter. Not a “CORPORATE FACILITY” but family run. Being in Orlando have numerous indoor and Outdoor tracks and facilities. They are practice safety the same even the K1 of course in Orlando we have much kart racing within 20 minutes of each other. Never felt endangered more real racers and regulars. Those who didn’t were and still are removed and noted on their information in the computer systems. Why I only race at the outdoor tracks in Dallas Ft Worth. It pains me jobs a job I do all I can to keep them safe. I dare say this doesn’t go in Orlando Tracks nor the tracks down south near Miami or any track in Florida.
Can’t wait to get back to Florida
You were turning them corners clean brah
I had a similar experience at a K1 place in Atlanta, GA. Same thing, office team went there for group fun. as i was coming around a turn, i got knocked from behind was was shoved into the opposite wall. The operator, who wasn't really paying attention, came over and accused ME of being reckless, and they turned down the power of my cart. Since we were running time trials for prizes, really pissed me off. Won't go back there again....
how many Cc's?
Bad mic... what was the reason!
I rewatched this multiple times and I couldn't see the other guy at all until it was to late
As someone who works here, he did NOT get kicked out for driving recklessly or anything. He got kicked out because the accident was pretty serious and is what we call a Kart On Kart. It is policy for when a Kart On Kart happens, to pull the drivers from the race. Sadly no refund.
What I find interesting is I've been run over twice while at K1 and the people that hit me never got kicked out.
Once, they kart stopped on top of mine, pinning my arms down. It wasn't quite painful, but definitely unpleasant. That was before I had a camera so I didn't have it recorded.
Although, these have been a few isolated incidents out of many uneventful days out there.
You were fine !! I went once and I did not know how to drive because every time I stepped on the petal it would drive so fast so I was scared to crash they stopped me twice and told me I was gonna break it and get kicked out if I didn’t stop lol
so you got kicked out for not seeing the other person? Or for crashing the go-kart? I've spun out once and got away with drifting a little bit. But for you to get kicked out for something that was an accident?? That's not cool. Which location was this?
Nice corners well done.
Yesterday I was racing my dad and in the first race, I took a corner WAYYYYYYY to hot and hit the wall so hard you could hear it from across the track (K1 Littleton Colorado
The flag guys all do the same thing. They watch the car/karts coming towards them at turn entry instead of coming out of the turns so they do not see the spins until after the spins. They also wave the yellows AFTER the spins which is too late.
i had a very similar type of deal at wilmington where there was a bunch of us going nose to tail through a fast part of track the slow car in front of our nose to tail group spun. first guy stopped short of me and I went on top of him but I didn't get kicked out. It must have something to do with the people that were working there.
I think they got mad because he drifted so hard and for so long but you didn’t create any problems and you didn’t cause the crash.
No way you could have reasonably told he'd spun watching the footage, when you did realise you tried to stop, even swerved and impact was a lot slower than if you'd not. Bad marshalling without a doubt, most places wouldn't have taken you off and would have reviewed why the guy spun there as it was unusual as he would have been expected to be preparing for the left turn after.
The same thing happened to me. Also, my lap record for the Austin 28.7
Your better off going to On Track Experience in Kyle, Tx. It's not to far from Austin and it's right off the 35. Nice outdoor oval track with karts that go up to 65 mph way better than any electric karts.
The wind is the best thing about this video
I don't kick out people when this happend.
They are wrong.
Why did they don't switch off the kart ??
(I work in a go-kart place in switzerland)
agree with all - totally not your fault. great driving!
Something like that happened to me today. I lost it around the chicane and I got side swiped by a guy, but we didn't get kicked out.
He kicked you out? For what? I missed something! You were amazingly cool about it. I would have been pissed!
Best thing you can do on these electric cart tracks is to never let off the throttle. Find the groove even if you are “ drifting “ a little and keep laying it down.
Take the necessary turns wider and hit it at a different apex.
Fly into and out of the curves, don’t let them be an obstacle.
You are definitely getting there and if you have “ raced” often enough after filming you are probably having to slow down to have any fun racing with other people.
It gets really old being in the lead. Making time is way more fun than track records.
Looked to me that column with the tyres on it was a pretty decent blind spot and this was just a racing accident. They could kick the column out but the building would fall down.
Technically it's not your fault. I did the same thing similar a few years ago, my nutter of a friend who was winning spun out and I pretty much came in at speed and did the same thing you did. Didn't get kicked out though as they had cameras in there at the time and saw it was accidental. I ended up 4th in the end overall though so pretty good for me :D
lol is that the one in austin too???
The moment he crashed the other dude did a hella good drift
I got black flagged three times during a race at Unser Racing. The manager and two employees pulled me off to the side after the race and said I was being too aggressive while driving. They also said I was driving too fast. Now I will admit I was drifting in every turn, but how is that aggressive... They gave me another chance on the track, but kicked me out after that one because the same reasons and because I accidentally slammed into another driver while he was stopped. The track I was in has a huge blind spot where you can’t see any employees or drivers until it’s too late, so it’s not my fault I smacked into him.
That's what happens when you have a guy making minimum wage in charge of flagging. The flagman is "rubbernecking" and staring at the spun kart rather than waving the flag to alert the other drivers approaching the turn. A third kart enters the corner and he STILL hasn't waived the yellow flag. He's headed over to talk to you are there are still other karts approaching at high speed. Anyone who thinks the incident was your fault (employee of K1 or otherwise) does not have a clue.
So wait did he just get kicked out of the race or out of the whole track
Im back 4 years later thanks rona
Ok guys the guy was only spun for a couple of seconds. The marshal was ok to miss the crash because he was scanning another area. However there is no way they should have been kicked out though
Wow exact same thing happened to me about a year ago, blind corner, no flag and it happened so quick i couldn't correct the kart but none of us were asked to leave after and it all proceeded as normal
That Austin tax location?