I'm so very new to Christianity. I just started reading the Bible. I've started with the book of Mark. I am so drawn to your channel and I really appreciate you and your channel. Thank you for helping me start a relationship with God.
God bless you! Well done for making the step. Always ask for wisdom understanding and faith before you read the bible. If I was you after reading mark id go John. And then Luke and then Matthew. Then read Acts and then read Paul’s epistles. After that I’d read Genesis Exodus Leviticus numbers and Deuteronomy. Keep praying and asking God for direction and answers for the things you don’t understand. Try and find a good Bible led church and make Christian friends. God bless you
My encouragement to you would be to try your best and read/ study the Bible as whole. Reason I say this is because every prophecy and event gives context to what we are experiencing today. Try to understand what is being described from what is being prescribed. I could suggest more but don't want to weigh you down. Be blessed.
The real sadness is she hasn’t lost her faith because it’s not a question of whether or not God exists; it’s that she refuses to worship God because she does not approve of His ways. It is the same with the devil and demons who know that God exist. The demons, even obeyed Jesus, but in every case, they refused to worship him.
Why is it sad to not worship someone you don't agree with? There is no right or wrong about not wanting to worship someone, it's just wanting to do your own thing, there's no sadness in that! I think it is sad to condemn someone who doesn't fully understand the being they should be worshipping.
@@resinsminia It is rebellion against the authority of God. That is a better term to understand, not "refusing to worship". Though as part of submitting to God worship also comes as He is worthy, but the main issue is the authority of God. Which everybody has a problem with. Be it atheist or this lady. No, God must be in approval with them or they will not submit. Which in technical terms means they are God. To them. They are God and thus they feel it is their right to question Him. That is the purpose of those passages in Romans. To bring this sin out from the heart. To reveal it. As it says "What if" and " Does the clay get to question the potter" and so on - that is a dare, a provocation to the heart that holds this sin to bring it out. And it never fails. Because a person who has passed that point (yes, we are rebels by nature and thus we must all pass it) will have a different reaction. That is to be afraid. Which is good, you ought to have fear of God. It is wrong to just go around thinking "well God would never do this" or "God to me will always be..". That is wrong, He is God - treat the position seriously. And after you get fear of God, then you get wisdom, then you humble yourself, then you repent, then you get mercy, then you get peace. You see? People say the first step is to repent - no, the first step is recognition and acceptance of the authority of God.
@Quint-ib4nf one doesn’t make a case against a god who doesn’t exist. None of her arguments were about creation, conscience awareness… they were all criticisms, poor ones at that, at God’s ways.
If you lose your faith through biblical study, then that means you actually read the bible. If you dont lose your faith through biblical study, then you had someone read it to you.
People could read but still not understand context or phrases in scripture that involves deeper dives. Some people don't understand what they've read and choose to leave.
@@kraftyval2162 sounds like a great plan…..an all intelligent god to write a book that is to difficult for some to understand only to have it interpreted by another human full of sin.
I heard a priest say to ask the Holy Spirit to help you read the Bible. He was really good at understanding it, but he was actually speaking what the Holy Spirit told him to. I did, and the Spirit also led me out of the RCC. Most of the priests there said normal people can't really understand the Bible, they need a priest to interpret it. I became a much better Christian after leaving the RCC. God wants a heart that loves Him because He does save and forgive. I found at least one passage that made me say the hell with this, this is as bad as the old liars in the RCC. But I also kept the door open to learning what it really might mean. It was Solomon saying it was difficult to find an honest man, but he'd never found an honest woman. To me that is encouraging men to hate women. Finally, since I kept my mind open, I decided that Solomon was NOT a man after God's heart, and he gathered women who believed in false gods, and followed their ways. So God never gave him a good woman.
@@keepingitreal7135 It's not that simple. The bible was inspired by God himself. God is incomprehensible to us. His mind and being are far above us. We cannot comprehend him, which is why most of us cannot understand the bible, even some believers cannot understand it. To understand the bible, you must open yourself up to God and pray and ask for wisdom and understanding.
I have a cousin who once called me in a panic asking, "How do I know if God chose me or not?!" I asked him, "Did you choose Him back?" "Yes." "Then you know He chose you." This short conversation conquered my cousin's panic. Praise God! God extends the invitation. It is up to us to receive it by faith or not.
@@dakotanorth1640 It's like seeing a girl that you like, and imagining that you asked her out on a date, and imagined that she accepted your request, then imagining that happened, that you are now in a full relationship, and you both love each other. If anyone asks, you can't introduce her, as it is only a relationship in ones own mind.
Gods grace is available to all people. Don’t fall for Calvinism you guys. There are many biblical theologians who refute Calvinism and they show you with scripture.
@@jen4um I would suggest that one doesn't fall for any of the religions until one has good evidence for a god. If one has good evidence that a god exists, then determine which god, as there are hundreds at a minimum. If one can determine that the god is an Abrahamic god, see which religion it supports, Then specifically ask this god which denomination has it correct, they can't all be correct. If you get this far and find a god supports a Christian denomination, I think gullibility is in your character. Well done you.
I went the complete opposite. I had all of these same questions and more, especially regarding science and archeology and the more I study the Bible, the more I am completely convinced of God.
In fact, I find it harder to believe in evolution and big bang theory based on what I have been taught by science and physics. Something coming from nothing for no reason and turning into everything violates every scientific and mathematic principle I've ever learnt.🤷🏽♀️
This is a huge issue I keep hearing about... "deconstructing faith" it's one thing to ask honest questions to get to understand God it's another to ask loaded questions and try to nit pick God's word so you can do whatever you want in your own moral code.
We absolutely should be asking the loaded questions! Not only can God handle them, but he doesn't ask us to have a blind faith, or abandon critical thinking. He gave us our brains after all. I believe that if you pray, and sincerely seek God and the truth, He will ultimately lead you back to Himself.
A lot people saying that we don’t need to ask questions don’t realize how much others have manipulated the word and been abusive/misleading towards ppl that genuinely just wanted love God with their whole heart.
“Have you ever met a non-believer and They told you that they want God?” Yes! It was me. I spent years during my faith struggle hoping God would reveal himself to me and he never did. People who listen to this channel and look up to this man, I’m not asking you to change your belief in God, that is your personal journey. But stop pretending like you know why people lose their faith or become an atheist. People have honest reasons for why they lose their faith, and pretending they don’t so you can ignore their experience is so disingenuous.
Hi brother i can understand you i was also looking for god and I aslo preyed to god that reveal yourself to me and he never did that in a way that i want but he did reveal himself in a way that is right to me that good in his eyes that very loving eye of my love he didn't reveal like we see in photos like a person but his love come upon me and i understand that he's my god than he showed hi miracle in my life that i was looking because spending 7 months with my love Jesus i now see how god would see things and my faith is growing all-day even though my family members saying that they would throw me out of family still i love my Jesus more then me and i truly not judging you aur explaining you why you like that it's just hurts me that someone there is also searching and unable to understand its upto you my bother think again that in which way that god try to reveal himself to you and possible that could be this comment why would i try to convince a person that i don't even know iam a busy person and why would i am replying to you in this hundreds of comment why specifically your comments god bless you brother
Same. I decided to call myself agnostic, because I never experienced a personal feeling of connectedness or assurance. However, I always found the moral standards and lectures very guiding for life in general. What made me seek faith again was death in our family. And when I wish my loved ones to be in a better place, I also have to believe in that place.
I think people need something in their lives to believe in somth. Like if you see something that will make you believe, they will believe. But some people just believe in things that they don't even see and that amaze. For me, I am a deist and I feel good in my own. I can't get along with Christians cus they are blind to thinking of their own. They believe blindly.
She really broke my heart when she said substitutionary death of Christ was totally unnecessary. Imagine standing before Christ on the judgement day explaining that your understanding led you to concluding that Jesus Christ didn't need to die to save the sinners. She absolutely never knew Christ. May the grace of God redeem her soul.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian. i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies. one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda. “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24) added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao "She absolutely never knew Christ." exactly from what i observed. she was never a christian. never provided a christian pov. why? she knows NONE of it!
By Biblical terms she is a fool. She is her own standard now because that’s what happens when you take the All Powerful, Omniscient God out of the throne.
If you actually go to her content she was a dedicated christian for years and no one doubt she was a believer only when she started opening up about all her questions and leaving christianity then people started saying she was never saved just respect people’s choices and stop judging even if its different from what you believe
When you explained the application of Psalm 137:9, this came into my mind: Something DESCRIBED in the Bible, is NOT the same as something PRESCRIBED by the Bible. Thanks for your elaboration at that point, Allen!
Exactly! I try to explain the difference between the prescriptive things in the Bible and those that are just Descriptive. For some reason, though, people seem to get the two confused.
So slavery wasn't prescribed in the bible and given instructions as to how to do it properly? Marrying your rapist wasn't prescribed in the bible? Really? It's honestly appalling the things people have to come up with to keep believing in the god of the bible
@@Emanuel-hh4uu rape is a mistranslation from the Niv parallel passages from Exidus clarify that it is talking about consensual fornication. the Bible doesn't say a woman must marry her rapist
@@Emanuel-hh4uu No, the Hebrew Old Testament does not say to marry your rapist. In the chapter in question it references rape multiple time in a row by using the Hebrew word for "forced". Then it uses an entirely different word towards the end of the chapter where the NIV translation inexplicably decided to translate it as rape.... The NIV is not a very literal translation either. If you look at formal equivalent translations you will find that they treat the difference in Hebrew by using a difference in English....and then suddenly it no longer says rape. This situation is a translation and interpretation error that it taken advantage of by atheists.
What I've learned over the years is that people who lose their faith probably never knew a living God in the first place. I find a lot of people who lose their faith come from Christian families and never got to know God in their own relationship with him.
I have tried for years to know God and to no avail. If he doesn’t wanna be there for me, then I am not going to be there for him. I would rather go to hell then be with someone who doesn’t even want to show up.
I’m sorry you feel alone or abandoned. We do need to remember that cannot show up because he is already everywhere (omnipresent). God is in every part of nature (such as eclipses, insect life cycles, the seasons, the laws of physics). God has been there through every part of human history. God then gave us his word which is how he speaks to us as well as through learned men who have been able to learn more in depth things about the Bible in order to teach the rest of us.
@ChrisHayworth100 , you appear to be engaging in a derivation of the “No true Scotsman “ fallacy, known as the ‘No true Christian “ fallacy. Lost your faith, well you never were a Christian to begin with. Because true Christians don’t lose faith.
If those people were truly saved, sure God will return them back to the faith, but I think that we shouldn't judge anyone, but put them in our prays, most believers pass hard times , we had already examples from the bible,
He is translating an already translated book. You have to take it as it's written. You can't make up your own justification for what God word says. You can't pick and choose what scriptures are credible or not. If you claim this is the word of God, then you have to take the entire book as it's written rather, it's good or bad. He basically comes up with his own translation of an already translated book. He did not answer any questions.
@@pierregambrell9236 The common way among scholars is to have a hierarchy of the content of the Bible. At the top are direct quotes from Jesus in the gospels. Look up "rules of biblical exegesis" if you are interested. For example, the Bible says in the book of Ecclesiastes that we all go to the shadow world after death regardless of merit. However, in Matthew, Jesus himself talks about eternal punishment for the wicked. These things are not reconcilable. Matthew simply takes precedence. In a wildly inconsistent collection of texts you need rules to make sense. There are still contradictions at the same level. Was Salome at the grave of Jesus? She was but also she was not.
And it's very obvious it's man made. Just some guy projecting his cultures to someone else and who doesn't comply is sinful. Anyone could write these words, how do they know these writers wrote the word of God? How is casual sex sinful? Does it hurt anyone? No. It's just meant to be a form of control over the Christians. And this thing about "true god" is nonsense, an Islamic person will believe in their God as much as Christians. And they will believe in it wholeheartedly just like Christians
@@timwest7467 Like saying adultery justify murder isn't bad enough. Christians are always saying they're "pro-life" but thinks the ones who commit adultery deserve to die. Everyone has a chance to live and to redeem themselves, taking the life away from them is way more evil than an adultery. You can recover from adultery, but you can't from death
You guys really think Kristi Burke doesn't know all of these things. You forget she was an evangelical Christian for over 20 years. She knows exactly what she is talking about.
Well... her words tell another story :) Not saying that to be mean, but as one of the comments said. Ahe was quite alone with her thoughts and from my point of view didn't really consider discussing those problems she ha with scripture with someone who actually had answers.
@@VespasianOfTheThird just because someone has answers, that does not mean those answers are true and factual. The bible is not factual, is it the claims.
@@piercelee9421 no, my logic and so many other peoples' logic would hold much more weight than his words. There just is no supernatural in this physical world as there "was" in the bible.
@@user-yd5ks7sd8x you said she knows what she is talking about because she was a Christian, I said if that is true someone who was a Christian for longer would have more value in his words. I was not trying to disprove atheism as a whole but your point you made as it is dumb.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian. i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies. one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda. “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24) added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
I tried to help her understand things more accurately, but she slammed the door on me each time. It finally dawned on me she didn't want to know the truth in these things. She was ticked and on the attack. She's mad at and hates Yahweh. I think she may be hiding her real reasons for this. Something happened, somebody died, or she didn't get something she wanted.
Yes many left the faith due to believing in their own understanding, not God's or had bad experiences with the religion in a whole. Some Christians don't show good fruits but those don't make God bad in anyway. Can't blame him for things humans do.
@@kraftyval2162 Several years ago I looked into the "exvangelical" movement to try to understand why people left their faith. I thought that it might be that they never were saved, but they all had solid salvation stories, so it wasn't that. But they did speak to their spiritual upbringing and the problem became readily apparent. Allen talked to this, but all these people had "weeds" for mentors and became spiritually stunted. None were brought up in the Word because no one around them had read the Bible, let alone understood it. They finally left in frustration, and like a kite with a broken string, they randomly floated to "The Current Thing" and embraced that.
@@kraftyval2162 Personally, I do not blame God for anything. I just do not think there is any such thing as "God". How can you blame a non-existing entity?
Rather than justify the apalling passages in the bible, he finds contradictory passages. This really shows how flawed and unreliable the bible is as a moral guide to anything.
Unless you understand the nature of God - total love and grace but also justice - it is not possible to understand the bible. If you cut god and his intentions out of the word, there is nothing any more. John 1 - HE is the word. Saying the bible isn't reliable for live just indicates that He wants you to invite Him to introduce himself to you - are you ready for that ? It will change your life, and this will be the best joice you'll ever make
@@CBechter, literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@jeremycamacho8864In the end only the truth will prevail. It is our job to search for it. Other than that, you can examine verified miracles, if you are not willing to invite God into your life yet.
I grew up believing In Hindu religion but my eyes are open to who God truly is today I thank God in the name of Jesus for revealing to me. Thank you Holy Spirit
"Set a timer on my phone and disbelieve for one minute?" No ma'am my salvation means too much to me. Jesus didn't pay the ultimate price for me to switch it on and off.
I was born again in Feb of 2022. I remember the day I went from unbelief to belief. Even if I did set a 1 minute timer to pretend I didn't believe, I'd still believe and Jesus knows that. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm His.
@@GerardShah do you truly want to know? At the risk of me sharing and you not receiving, I'll explain it to you. Jesus was fully man and fully God. So as a man He felt sadness and pain and hunger and thirst. He loved His life and His family and friends. When He knew His time was short. He wept and sweated blood... He was devastated to have to go through this criminal's punishment. But He did so willingly. The scriptures say He was punched and kicked and whipped. The skin of His back was like tattered rags. The whip was made of sharp bone, glass shards, metal balls, and leather. He was beaten all night to the point that He was unrecognizable. He was nailed to the cross, piercing a major vein in the middle of the hand and feet causing nerve damage and agonizing pain. His position on the cross was in a way that His lungs was locked in the inhale position. To exhale, He had to lift Himself up by the nails in His hands....rubbing His open back on a splinter ridden cross. His heart busted within His body. And before He died from this cardic episode, He said, "It is finished." Very odd. But He was saying, " Father, I took the punishment meant for Gerard's crimes against you...if he puts his trust in that, he is free to everlasting life." And He showed what that looked like by rising from the dead...proving also that He is God. You call it a weekend, but it more than than that. Father God can see your sin no more and you can live forever because Jesus, as you say, "sacrificed His weekend." To save your soul this is a reflection of the old sacrificial law... of innocent/perfect blood shed to cleanse people from sin. God's 2 natures, wrath and love was satisfied that day. Jesus said, "No greater love than man, lay His life down for His friends." If you are deconstructing Gerard or you never known Jesus. Put or return your trust in Jesus and turn away from all unrighteousness. Take care.
Nah, this man doesn't make any of these verses better He explains some concepts and ideas that help Christians, but he doesn't tackle the real problems at all
the real problem is fallible people not knowing God, not having the Holy Spirit that reveals His Word, and then trying to criticize His Word without even really studying it
I watched the Kristi Burke's video about a month ago and it made me question God because I was not understanding the meanings of the passages correctly, and this video really helped me to understand them better and I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you so much!
NEVER second guess God Almighty…the Devil is so cunning this is his specialty…REMEMBER we will ALL go through trials heartbreak and trouble in this life we can’t even begin to comprehend a fraction of the way God thinks…God Bless you🙏🙏 even the great Bible scholar Dr. Chuck Missler would often say on certain passages…..”what did God mean.? he would say I have no idea what God meant..know thatAllen is telling you exactly what the passages mean🙏🙏
It's fine and good to question scripture you don't understand, but put in the research, and you will find the answers. It's not our place to judge God, but it's our place to study his word and to put in our best efforts to understand him better! Then, we will be better equipped to defend the faith! God bless you 🙏🏿
It's okay to doubt God. Moses, Gideon, Jonah, David, they all have doubts. Thomas & Peter had doubts. But instead of looking for answers at the right place (Holy Spirit, the Bible) Adam and Eve fell from the paradise, Judas Iscariot regretted and killed himself. After all, it's pride before the fall. So many deconstruction videos stem from this.
This morning the Lord gave me a message to remind myself (and Sister Kristi): Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
How am I supposed to not lead into my own understanding when I'm trying to understand these difficult passages about the Bible? Like, take for example, when God wanted the Israelites to slaughter the infants of the Amalekites, those babies were innocent. Why didn't God have mercy on those infants?
Her asking me to set a 1 minute timer for not to believe in God made me really upset, because before I was saved I was always angry and even self harming I could never in my life let go my love for Jesus
These people don't care about you. They don't do this out of love. They don't do this because they think it will make you happier, or bring you any joy. This is done with malicious intent. When does declaring there is no god ever bring you joy, hope, purpose, or compel you to love your neighbor and help the homeless? It doesn't. She cares about only one thing, and it isn't you, it's herself. She doesn't want you to feel the joy or love you can only receive from the Holy Spirit. She wants to suck all the love you have gained from Jesus out of you. She wants you to be miserable and think like her. She has one goal, and that is to inflate her own arrogance and sense of self importance. That's it.
@@shannonharrison7711 When you say "Once you know the truth" I think you meant to say once you *think* that you know the truth. Three quarters of the worlds population don't believe what Christians believe. I'm guessing that isn't the truth. There is certainly no good evidence for it being true, though the same can be said for all the other magical mythical creatures out there also. There is equal evidence for the existence of fairies as there is for Jesus, Brahman and Allah. Loads of people turn away from believing in things that there is no good evidence for. How many billions of kids turn away from Santa and the tooth fairy?
I love how everyone in this thread so far, except for potentially one person, completely missed the point of the challenge. It is to show that belief isn't a choice that you can just toggle on and off willingly. It has nothing to do with giving up love, hope, peace, or joy.
But we aren't talking about not getting candy at the end, we're talking about suffering an eternity of punishment. God hadn't given us the choice. He punishes those he molded for his purpose of bringing about his own glory - his patience there is not to allow those people to choose him eventually- it clearly says it's to show his glory. Stop adding in your own justifications and just read the text. I grew up "harmonizing scripture " which is just a fancy way of not admitting the contradictions that exist all throughout the Bible.
Very good! And much agreed! I would like to see how this guy explains away evolution? I believe most protestants are anti-evolution (although I am not positive?)? If he is one of those, I would like to hear how he explains away evolution. That's when his ability to reason would lose all credibility with me!
I think the first passage from Romans will dictate the rest. People want THEIR preferences to be above God's and He CLEARLY tells us He is sovereign AND that His ways are NOT our ways! He also asks us to test Him by being obedient and holding Him to His Word (which one has to know to find out our benefits). If one does this, they will learn that God IS LOVE and ALWAYS keeps His Word and although we do not understand everything (remember, The Bible says we see thru the glass darkly), we can FULLY trust Him! Let those with ears to hear, hear...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
So true. I think all growing Christians get to this principle at some point. It’s hard to swallow at first. I think we don’t even realize we have been putting God in our own constraints of what WE think is fair and right. Eventually you accept it and begin to trust that He is good and beyond your ability to judge and sometimes even understand. And honestly, when I came to this realization and accepted it, my gratitude towards Him for saving me became SO much greater. Off the charts grateful!
We cannot even begin to understand God unless we believe, love and worship Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Seek first His kingdom a His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
The same is true for me. And I didn't harden my heart. I prayed appox 7 years and asked for my interior confidence that christianity is the right path foe me. Finally, there was a big scilence from heaven. After that, I stopped blaming myself for not praying enough and not serious enough. Today, I am a relaxed and happy atheist. Honestly.
Crazy thing is he didn't just make us but we are parts of him. So going to hell is literally just disconnecting from the source... He uses the word "harden" in terms of suffering which could most likely mean it's not the end either
This is a very flawed way of looking at God and existence. God made you because he wanted fellowship with you. It’s your choice whether you accept his grace for your mistakes or not. God does not send you to hell, you send yourself there because you say no to HIS grace. These are the laws of existence, who are we to question them? We’re flawed in our understanding, we cannot possibly know why HE does what HE does. God shows you what is needed to be shown. A good thing to do is try praying, ask the LORD to help open your eyes to HIM, ask for HIM to help you see the truth and light. God will show you, you need to be willing to submit.
@@ThePugPrince What's flawed is you assuming the truth of reality. When I tell you guys to prove it you only run away like the little cowards you are. Or you make a logical fallacy. In that case you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
I did that too. But I kept looking, searching, trying to find the truth. Don't worry, your renewed faith won't last for more than a couple years, at best. May I suggest reading the Bible, from cover-to-cover. If this really is the "divinely inspired words," of your God and your, "lord and savior," do you think, "Maybe. Just maybe," you should read the friggin' book!?
God bless you brother. I hope this is the situation that Christy finds herself in right now. She's still young her life is not over so she may still be in the mercy of God's hands. I just hope that she comes back before it's too late for her
I'm not going to lie. I have struggled with some of those and other obscure scriptures. I don't have to understand everything. I just need to trust God and know His Word is authority. The Holy Spirit reveals this to me ❤
@@xXEGPXx uh, no. It's realization that we don't know everything. Truth is we never have all the answers to every question. Whether you believe in nothing accounting for everything or God accounting for it, you still believe one or the other without knowing all the answers.
I am almost 77 years old, was ‘saved’ at the age of 23 and spent decades and both volunteer and professional ministry in one of the largest conservative denominations in the United States. I applaud Kristi Burke for questioning the basic teachings of Christianity. It is a religion which the first part of God, (the father) creates human beings and allows them to sin; and punishes them and all of their descendants for that sin. Then the first part of God has the third part of God, the Holy Spirit, impregnate a human being (without asking permission) to create the second part of God which then must be killed so that the first part of God’s will no longer be angry. Absolutely ridiculous😂
You won’t get them to consider your arguments with reason if you throw it aggressively like that. The Christian faith is not rooted in reason, it’s rooted in a deep-seated, desperate need to believe. If you present facts that negates their dogma, they are still obligated to dismiss it and follow faith. If you propound logic, they are obligated to invoke a “higher or mysterious ways” argumentation. If you suggest skepticism, they champion credulity. To them doubt is a challenge to overcome, not a virtue that enables a clearer perspective of reality and truth. This type of reasoning allows for strong biases towards one’s beliefs especially when confronted in these beliefs in an aggressive tone. Basically they view disagreements as persecution. And feeling of being attacked based on one’s beliefs and cause, makes people think they must be doing the right thing.
Kids: “Daddy, why are we going a different way?” Dad: “The GPS shows a better way here.” Person: “God, why do you handle things that way?” God: “DARE QUESTION I?”
@@Warsteel55 my guy that’s the point of any question: to learn information you don’t have. To say you don’t have the right to ask a question because you don’t have the means to answer the question doesn’t make any sense
But then how the hell can you ever look at your beliefs critically? I could just as easily say “the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster’s just knows more than you”. If we can’t question God, then how can we know anything about him?
Why should you believe a book written by sinful people? Let me try and explain here: "The Bible's 66 books - 39 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament - are written by 40 different authors over a period of 1,500 years. These authors lived in different places and different times, with different cultures. They had many different occupations and lifestyles, but the focus of what they have written is the same - to reveal God's heart and will for mankind."
@karenallen5208 Actually, you're wrong. There are more than 66 books of the bible. 54 books were removed. Those missing books make up the Apocrypha. Now your reply still doesn't satisfy the question that was asked of you. " The authors" are still sinners. The authors are still mere men who write The bible bassed off of other translation and interpreted documents of people before them. The stories in the bible are stories handed down from generation to generation. No spirit, no god. Just people writing whatever the hell they want based on their own thoughts, beliefs, and traditions. Then, gullible people like you, go around believing this BS is true.
@@karenallen5208 see that's the problem with the bible "to reveal God to people", if that was so important, don't you think an all powerful being could have done something better to reveal themselves to everyone without a book(s)? Why base an entire eternal state of existence of billions of people based on whether they're convinced by the events of a book, entrusting that information on the very thing that messed the whole thing up from the very beginning is even more problematic?
@@Joei2049 The Bible is not the ONLY way God reveals himself to us. He sent the Holy Spirit to guide us. Read John 14:25-26. The Holy Spirit is like the wind -- when you repent to God and ask Jesus to be your Lord and savior, the Holy Spirit enters your life. He's like the wind, you can't see where He comes from or where He goes, but you will feel his presence. The Bible and the law were given to us for guidance. If we didn't know the law, we would not know if we're sinning against God. God created us for his companionship. He never forces Himself on anyone. He wants us to follow Him of our own free will. You can understand that if you thought your parents forced you to love them. They don't -- they want you to love them because they brought you into the world and first loved you. This is the truth about our loving God.
@@Joei2049 25 “I have told you this while I’m still with you. 26 However, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything. He will remind you of everything that I have ever told you.
I kid you not a few weeks ago I was looking up what people say against the Bible and saw her video and some things she said really stumped me. Didn’t shake my faith I just wanted to find out how to get the answers I needed. Allen thank you so much my man! God bless you!
@@Εμμανουέλα-φ5μ God created everything. And he is All powerful and All Knowing. So he created hate and sin. Ammon Hillman says that Jesus was a gay pedophile child sex trafficker in his interview on the Danny Jones Podcast.
@@user-id9oi1py4tunless you were an innocent baby in a city near the promised land then Israelites were instructed to slaughter babies and every living thing
I was having a conversation to a religious friend of mine ,he claimed everything in the bible was true ,I said what if you contracted leprosy would you use the bible cure of killing one bird and burning it and sprinkle the ashes onto another bird and let it fly away or seek modern medical advice? Awkward silence.
So you are cherry picking the Bible. You never even addressed her actual argument. You just tossed it aside. 🤣 You just said you believe you are better than others regardless of your actions. If you consider god good because he saves a few people from eternal suffering then he is evil and you are evil for worshiping those ideas. Yes the teacher is wrong this is an unreachable goal. You are teaching kids that their best isn't good enough. Why would you care though in your logic you disguise hate as love. You have no morals if they are based around god.
Whether you think God is evil or not is irrelevant. The fact is that he exists and he has established a path for you to go to heaven. If you don't like it, too bad. Reality doesn't care.
@@theplasmacollider6431 Then prove it. Your entire ideology is based around faith. So where do you get off telling me I'm not being logical. I've based my world around the physical science we can prove. You don't understand what that even means.
@@theplasmacollider6431 No you don't. You might think you do but you can't justify a world built around faith and then also accept scientific theory without contradicting yourself. Your entire view on reality is fallacious.
@@theplasmacollider6431REALITY?!?! 😂😂😂😂 that’s actually laughable… you’re the one not living in reality if you believe there is even an ounce of proof of that tribal war god without trying to reference that fictional book of yours ..
If we are on Earth to be tested with free will but some of us are created just to be destroyed that would break God's own word, because it takes away free will and the chance to be tested.
@brijenell0201 Allen asked my take on it. I'd like to take some time to watch it soon. It looks like Allen did a stellar job of responding to the arguments.
Melissa, I was going back and forth with this woman in the comment section of her videos last year. I was hoping either you or Allen would see one of her videos, and maybe try to help her. I thought about mentioning her to you two, but I stay out of peoples' business, so just hoped one of you would discover her.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian. i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies. one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda. “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24) added: very disingenuous of her to claim to be an ex-christian to begin with. and this l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
I come from a Christian upbringing within a devout family. However, last year, I found myself on the brink of losing my faith. Yet, in a powerful intervention, God made it clear that I was not meant to stray. This encounter with God was unlike any other I've had, and I hope everyone gets to experience it because it feels like being born again. Jesus, I cherish you. Thank you for rescuing my soul. Amen.
Meaning it’s bullshit. See I’ve had an experience with God, or whatever created this reality we’re in. I prayed one night during a dark time and asked for a sign. I met a man the next day who pointed me to the Bible. I know God is real, but you will never be able to convince me that He is good. I’ll give Him respect, but He is not worthy of my love.
Salvation is what that is, maybe you never fully trusted in Christ until this experience! I always say head knowledge of the bible is good for our knowledge and understanding! But heart knowledge is what saves and keeps you preserved in Christ!
I used to be a very fervent and devoted believer and it was the study of the Bible that lead me out of the faith. Most of my life was spent listening to preachers but once I was ready for the next step, I started listening to biblical scholars. Unfortunately I learned too much and had no choice but to let go of the faith I held so dear.
Luke said: Jesus said "Thank You Father, that you give your Kingdom to those with the trusting hearts of little children, and keeping it from the intellectuals of this world".
I had a very similar experience. The more I read the more questions I asked and the less answers I got. Typical answer that you have to have faith. But biblical scholars who are mostly Christian by the way say the Bible is not Devine in origin and the facts don't hold water. And rightly she says that what is said in the Bible is contradictory so where is the truth.
Somebody, tell Kristi to check this video! Praying for her to restore her faith in the Mighty King, Jesus! Kristi, if you read this, please know that we LOVE you and try to open mind and study God's Word very carefully. God bless!
Poor Girl. She has misunderstood the Bible and it seem like she had no one to explain it or help her understand it. I see that a lot more and more. Hopefully she will see Alan’s video and come to an understanding of what the Bible is actually saying in those verses. I will definitely be praying for her.
@@danielfortonforton223I will find it hard to pray for her but will do so in obedience to what Jesus said about praying for our enemies, but I will also be praying for the people she has influenced away from God with these videos she has put out into the world and the people she has any contact with. These were very immature ideas she has made for herself and yes, I agree, she has obviously never had good guidance in her understanding. God bless 😊✝️
Comparing candy to burning in hell is disgusting. No loving parent would send their children to eternal punishment for any reason. We're more moral than the Biblical gods.
More moral? God created us, gave us life, gave us FREE WILL, gave us grace, yet he still gives us a chance to live with him forever...loving or not, He has every right to destroy us, but He doesn't because He loves us. it's why God's Wrath is righteous in every way. not righteous in the way us mere mortals see it, but in the way that it is way beyond our comprehension. He's not going to reward Eternal Life to those who CHOOSE to turn away from Him and follow their own selfish desires. Loving parents', who are also human and a creation of God, morals are nothing compared to God and what He says.
The thing with rape is that women often times can‘t cry for help cause they are paralyzed by shock and fear. So it‘s incredibly naive to say it was consensual cause she didn’t cry for help.
They might also have a weapon like a knife or a gun to their throat or head. They might have a child sleeping in the next room. It’s very arrogant to assume someone asked for it just because they didn’t scream or fight.
What a disappointment, I actually took the time to watch this video because I heard that you had made some compelling counterpoints to Kristi Burke's video. Nothing you stated, and I mean NOTHING, debunks what she said, or justifies what those bible verses state. I was pretty sure I was in for a disappointment right off the bat when you attempted to justify Romans 9 verse, God is under no moral obligation to extend to us salvation!!?? I would argue that it is completely immoral to offer a creature you created eternal salvation without a clear path, or way to achieve that salvation, by testing them in so many different immoral ways, when again, they have no clear set of rules or guidelines to go by. If you say god has no obligation to be moral himself, they why is it said we are created in his image, or why does he want his creations to be moral if that attribute is not something he holds as a cherished attribute personally. Your analogy about the teacher and rewarding candy to the students was just god awful, no pun intended, first, they do have obligations to their students. A teacher is obligated to educating their students, or in a bigger sense, imparting them with knowledge that will help them navigate the world around them as an adult when they venture out on their own, no? So the mere fact of bribing them with a candy reward if they behave in the proper way, by the rules she's laid out, is already teaching them that morality is interchangeable with rules. Being kind to your neighbors, or helping the less fortunate, or not stealing things that don't belong to you should be considered selfless acts, that help others suffer less and enjoy life more, leading to a more prosperous enlightened and happy society. Going by your logic or your gods logic, those things are only done in order to get a prize at the end, you wrap it all up with a nice little bow and call it morality. It is a good analogy for Christianity as a whole, which uses personal satisfaction, one might even say greed, in order to get people to act in a manor, and live their life as the religion sees fit. That's not morality, let's not get it twisted, morality is a very personal thing, two people that live next door to each other, and are good friends, could have very different moral values. Basically the teacher is teaching her kids to only do something if there is something in it for them, and that is no way to send a child out into the world. There are many other flaws in just that analogy alone, but they, as the rest of your video is too much to get into, you are simply another Christian apologist, and a poor one at that, I have heard far more convincing and intelligent apologies or explanations of the Christian faith, than the drivel that you laid out, do you ever have nontheists on your channel to debate, or give counter points?? I doubt it, any of them with half a brain would your shred your nonsense to pieces. Good day sir.
Hello Sun, Just wanted to add a comment on your post. I want to start off with agreeing with you on some of your points when it comes to his analogies. Watching the video I was very confused and disagreed with certain points, but in my opinion making analogies between humans and God can be tricky due to how God and humans relationship work. So I won't really talk about the analogies because they were poorly made unless you want to. What caught my eye was when you said nothing debunks or justifies those bible verses. I won't go over all the points, but I thought third verse was pretty clearly debunked. The translation here was pretty bad, and even using the same translation from prior verses, we get 2 conflicting messages. One were we are told that adultery (and rape) is a sin punishable by death, and a couple verses later you can pay for your rape and get a wife? Looking at the context of the chapter and also looking at different translations, it is clear that the rape to get wife pipeline is definitely not what was intended here. Like I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that was said in this video, but I disagree with the notion that everything Kristi was right. If you want to go in more detail about the species we can, I just thought I'd add my two cents. Have a good day.
@@ashtonrene1524Wrong and you didn't pay attention to the verses... Adultery and rape is only punishable by death to a woman that is betrothed or married... It is not punishable by death to a woman who is NOT betrothed or married... This is why the Bible is clearly misogynistic in many of its laws... It's only a punishment of death when it violates a woman who has already entered into a contract with a man... If that woman is a virgin who HAS NOT BEEN PLEDGED to be married, then the rules are different... The man who rapes her doesn't get put to death... Instead he just only pay her father fifty shekels of silver... Essentially a fine and then he must take her as his wife for life... This is disgusting and immoral... And Parr willfully ignored that fact as he was reading the prior verses that are very clear.
@@Hieiman Hello Hiei, Yes the verse is talking about non-married /engaged women. I brought up the prior verses within the same translation more to show that this seems to be the outlier on God’s stance due to the translation. God takes rape seriously, as we see here. The NLT isn’t the only translation that says grape here; there are 11 other translations that use the same word. The problem with these translations is that all these versions fall under “thought for thought” or “paraphrasing“ instead of word for word translations (this information was obtained by the 56 translations available on Bible Hub). The issue with translating Hebrew to English is how many of their words have multiple meanings. The first half of the verse in question is: כִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַעֲרָ֤ בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ׃ Which can roughly translate to: “If a man comes upon a virgin who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered,” The important part is the part “they are discovered.“. Adultery only gets discovered because the people involved do not report it themselves. Grape would have the victim report it hence in the earlier verse talking about consensual experiences (verse 23 “If a man is found lying with another man’s wife…”) they find out about it but when it comes grape there’s no reference to this. Another point for this is looking at the original law in Exodus (Deuteronomy, or “repetition”) when it comes to unwed adultery. Exodus 22:16: “If a man seduces a virgin for whom the bride-price has not been paid, and lies with her, he must make her his wife by payment of a bride-price.” With all these points, I believe it points to this being the original intent and not the mistranslation (why would seducing and grape have the same punishment when we saw the info from above?). Lastly, this point wasn’t brought up, but I think it makes the situation more clear. The woman isn't forced to marry him if she doesn’t want to (or her father if she is a minor). The following verse “If her father refuses to give her to him, he must still weigh out silver in accordance with the bride-price for virgins.“ The law was put in place to make sure that men couldn’t just sleep with whoever they wanted; if the woman wanted to marry him, he’d have to pay her and her family, and if she didn't, he’d still have to pay her a huge sum. All decisions for the man are stripped from him and given to the woman (or her family). I hope this made my original point clearer. Have a good day.
The thing you're failing to understand is that humans, by nature were a fallen race, so he'll was already the destination but the idea is that God sent us to earth in order to give us a chance to make our way back to righteousness/him
@@remingtonbeats335 Allen(and God according to the bible actually) literally contradicts himself there. First he says how God controls/manipulates you so there is no choice, then he says how we have the free-will to make a choice. Literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
Proverbs 2:12-14, "Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse, who have left the straight paths to walk in dark ways, who delight in doing wrong and rejoice in the perverseness of evil."
@@peterwallis4288 god: "thou shalt not kill" also god: "go kill the canaanites, men, women, children, animals" anyone who can justify that hypocrisy is sick minded. anyone who says "god can kill you because he created you" is sick minded. god: no trial, no jury of peers, no right to counsel, one crime (what sin was the entire world committing at the flood?) and one sentence, to burn, after being drowned of course - if you think that is just and fair, you are sick.
Allen, you miss-quote almost everything Ms. Burke says so you can spin your argument to suit your doctrinal narratives. You never explain her criticism directly, but you invent something else to rebut as though your listeners cannot perceive what you are doing. Your objective is to pacify the people who would listen to Ms Burke's concerns with the Christian narratives as written in the Holy Bible. You cannot wash away the words in scripture with creative word play. The simplest way to deal with the problems scriptures present is to acknowledge that they were written by MEN. God did not write any of them. End of story!
He reminds me of thos sci-fi buffs who cook up crazy justifications to explain away what are nothing more than silly screw-ups and inconsistencies by the writers.
Men WROTE DOWN the words but GOD is the author of the Bible. According to scripture the Word is God-breathed, (by God) It’s no different than someone wanting to write a book and hiring someone else to write the words down. And concerning “controversial scripture”, one example: There is an order in marriage, just like there’s an order at work, or in government. The husband is the head of the home because someone has to be. Doesn’t mean a woman can’t have a different opinion, but if a final decision has to be made, the husband would be responsible for the outcome, and he’d be more accountable for making a bad decision. A husband’s role is in many ways harder than the woman’s. If she submits, and he’s wrong, he gets the blame. And at work there are supervisors, office managers, etc…. There are CEO’s who make decisions and pass them down, But if he’s wrong, he will be responsible, not the guy who just got hired or the guy in the mailroom. So he usually has the sole responsibility for any bad decisions that hurt the company I’m a woman in a traditional marriage. My husband is very supportive of me, but when it comes to major decisions, he always takes my opinion into account, but when he makes the final decision, if he makes the wrong one, then he gets all the blame. But let me make it clear, no man better abuse his wife, because God says “Men, love your wives” Abuse is not love and God is not okay with domestic abuse, of spouses or children, and a woman should do what keeps her and her children safe. God is against divorce, but that doesn’t mean he wants a man to abuse his wife or children, and divorce is not the ultimate sin, as long as theres a valid reason, such as adultery of a partner, or ongoing abuse. Divorce causes a lot of pain, especially to children, but abusing a child or them watching their father abuse their mother and can’t do a thing about it, causes even more pain. Sometimes divorce is choosing between the lesser of two evils. He said he hates divorce because it hurts people, and often especially children, but he gave valid grounds, he said except in adultery, because then vows have been broken. BUT, VOWS are also broken if a man who promised to love his wife, at the altar, physically abuses her, he too has broken his wedding vows, even if he never committed adultery.
Why did you not address "and do whatever you want with them" (the woman and children)? You really don't believe these justifications to these horrible Bible passages... Do you🤔
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
He also says god doesn't want them to kill innocent babies in the beginning then glazes over the verse where god instructs them to "kill every living thing" (including innocent babies) in the cities near the promised land, this guy is a liar and excuse maker
Its scary how she's trying to convince people to not believe in God. She seems like a very intellegent, articulate woman and prayerfully she comes (back) to Christ.
Did she ever know Him to begin with? I truly believe if you sincerely believe you will NEVER give Jesus up…that doesn’t mean that we ALL don’t need repentance we can’t say I’m sorry and keep up our sins but to honestly try our BEST to live each day with Him in mind ….. and the love and yes fear of Him🙏🙏🙏
@@morgansouthworth2894 Voia Ta - BBSO SONG ROMANIA This is actually a poem. However the man of God who put this into song, he was tortured in the Romanian communist prison at the time God gave him the power to make this into a song. Voiata Ta meaning YOUR WILL
Brother what part of Christianity do you believe? There are over 33 thousand brands of Christianity not to mention Catholics. I believe in a Supreme God but not the one written by the Bible. Religion keeps women almost as slaves. That is the God I believe in. Sorry.
I didn’t fully understand the crucifixion until I read Leviticus. We as humans needed to see God sacrifice for us, it WAS an act of love that was SO needed for us humans to understand his love and understand our need for him.
Absolutely!!!!!! It helped understand the gist of “Salvation”. If Christ had not come we would still be doing all those works just to appear holy before God and it would still have been short.
Thank you Allen for talking about this, this woman's page is very dangerous and scary, because she didn't understand the Bible doesn't mean she should destroy others beliefs especially those starting their faith, rather you challenge that fact and try to proof and understand the passage. How far you can go to understand God determines how well you love him. How can you say God hates women and his people yet you've been living your Life normally as a hateful woman towards your God for a long time all because you didn't understand yet he hasn't struck you, that on its own is mercy and free weal.
We don’t need to understand everything that God does, His ways are greater than our ways, but He always acts out of love and we need to trust that He knows what He’s doing
Choosing to allow someone to be born just for the purpose for them to suffer eternal hell fire isn't love. Justice for not believing in him...who didn't give me faith to believe in him...and then punishing me because HE DIDN'T choose me....not of my own choice....what kind of love is that?
Sure, but you said he always acts out of love. But do you understand why people who don't want to believe what you believe? Because when you look at passages when God told the Israelites to kill the infants of the Amalekites, those were innocent kids. They're babies, aren't they? And Christians today are all about being passionate about being pro-life. I mean, come on. It's hypocritical.
Insane how a person can carefully explain to you why they don't believe, and all you have to offer is to accuse her of never believing and that she should just "trust in the lord". Do you all realize how alienating you are? Do you hear yourselves? How do you expect for anyone to hear you out when all you have is accusations?
He is not accusing her of anything it's a matter of truth . What is the truth ? If the truth is God exist which I believe he does then God himself says that you should follow his way not your own way and that is what we are sadly seeing in the world many wars many hateress many injustice because people don't follow God's way they follow their own way
@chrisgal8944 "did you wake yourself this morning" yes??? obviously??? I'm an adult I don't have my parents knocking at my door lmao? and the only people "raised from the dead" were done so in operating rooms via modern medicine, incredible work by doctors and nurses, and also extremely quickly.
Very proud of Krisi Burke for what she has done in coming forward with her thoughts and questioning. What an intelligent and wonderful young lady. I think there is hope for us yet. Christianity is just one of many religions built and changed from old over the many years of our existence. When we are finally able to see the light of this manipulation and move forward I think we will find our purpose and the afterlife even greater than we ever thought possible. We have put our existence in tini boxes and the Universe or God....the real truth, is so much more than we probably will ever understand as humans. There is hope for every one of us. Infinite Love for all awareness is my deepest hope and feeling. Go Kristi!!
There is hope for us, hope in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He died on the cross for our sins so we can have eternal life though him. We believe in him to be saved, not in what we do; this is God's grace and mercy.
Authoritarianism, Vindictiveness, Jealousy, Impatience, Favoritism, Aggression, Inconsistency. While these traits might reflect the complex nature of divine behaviour in the theological context, they would be considered indicators of unhealthy behaviour in a human psychological analysis.
Why would god feel obligated to bring those who are non Christians towards him? Who is the one who made them be born in non Christian nations? Then, how are they at fault?
I thought God created EVERYTHING. No? Or did he create all the other religions just so he could enjoy their eternal suffering because he taught them the wrong religion?
@@darrialfleming8548 lmao, she is reading literally from that bible u say is the word of god. You religious people are the most dishonest people on earth, and you lack both critical thinking and empathy
@@user-id9oi1py4tSo we can't listen to what Christians say about the Bible? Because most Christians tell atheists hell is eternal separation & torment.
Not monotheistic. I have been saying this for a long time. If you pray within a religion to multiple deities, that is not mono. Especially the eastern orthodox church. It's like Greek inspired mythology 2.0
Pastor Allen, this was an excellent video you put together. I am sooo impressed by how you put your videos together with all the different Bible verses to answer these difficult questions. It’s amazing what the Holy Spirit can do through us. Thank you for all you do sir! God bless you!
Brother Allen, you've addressed these matters extremely well. I pray for those that watch her videos so as they don't get led astray from our Lord God. I'm so grateful for your doing your service for the Lord! God is faithful.
@@lilymitman I pray you stop listening to youtubers that pick and choose what they like from the bible. Whether you like it or not God is your creator.
Thank you, Allen. I came upon her video a while ago and i went to my pastor and asked questions on the verses she "debunked." Very blessed to have her because she explained it the same way you did. I pray God will take the scales off her eyes. Amen.
Go to a 3rd world country where they basically have no laws and allow all the worst things imaginable and tell them about “God’s Mercy.” If God has so much mercy then why does he allow soooooo much suffering. Doesn’t make sense at all to me. If it doesn’t make sense to my human mind please tell me how that can make sense to an all knowing, all good, and all loving god?
It's today's society that is brutal on women. My Mom is an excellent Mom. Even God himself would enjoy her company. And all my childhood I saw what the world has put her through. And it is because she is a champion role model for all women that the others who saw, changed and fixed their ways. Perspectives on how a verse looks from the outside. As this video has made it clear. "Can" look as though it's a monstrous dictatorship narcissism. I was her son. I know the correct and "helpful" perspectives. Disregarding helpful directives, simply because of not truly grasping how they help the world, is unhelpful for my Mom. I pray the Lord opens your eyes to see his goodness. My Mom wins this time. Because of God may she always win. Amen.
@@Ordinal_Yoda Was it Abraham that tried to whore his wife out when they almost arrested him? Was it also he that offered his two virgin daughters to be gang raped by the crowd? These things are objectively harsh for women to read.
I've been reading it and it really isnt😅 men have had it just as rough in the OT, and if the women are especially treated unfairly then it's a problem with man as a whole living in a fallen world
Why would an all knowing, all powerful, and especially an all loving God make it so complicated to understand. Why does it take analogy and rhetoric to explain the word of God?
“Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.” You are correct in emphasizing that a specific text must be consider within both immediate context AND context of the whole Bible. Here is wisdom: “Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
I've seen several comments about people losing their faith due to searching for reasons to disbelieve, wanting to play God or even claiming they were never believers to begin with. While I can't speak for Kristi, I can speak from my own experiences growing up in a Christian house hold my entire life. I have been surrounded by the word of God since birth, was saved at 7 years old and experienced complete and total faith in God for years. However, after experiencing countless arguments on how to interpret the bible, what's in context and what's out of context, attending churches ranging from reformed, to baptist, to charismatic, honestly I just am so worn and tired. The faith I once had that never faltered has slowly dimmed over time, and it is the worst pain imaginable. BELIEVE me when I say I have no desire to abandon God and that I want to have full faith in him because he is the security I have had my entire life. I believe many people questioning their faith are coming from a place of confusion, feeling betrayed by fellow Christians and questioning who is telling the actual truth. It can feel impossible to sift through the countless arguments, interpretations and opinions of scripture. I can't count the amount of times I've wished I could just erase all of the doubts that have plagued me, because the last thing I want is an existence without God. Having Christians claim I'm seeking reasons to not believe God makes the pain even worse because I never wanted any of this.
To me they are rejecting the Holy Spirit when they believe but still don’t want to except that he is God and not them !!that was the reason Satan was thrown out of heaven. Thats unpardonable sin!! God speaks about the only transgression God will never forgive!!!
Yes I have questions sometimes I can’t understand but the spirit guides me and we aren’t meant to understand everything but to trust our Heavenly Father!!We just believe and trust him on his promises
Put your faith in Christ and in Christ alone!!! Seek the truth yourself along with what you should already know about God! Have you not a testimony? Has he not answered any of your prayers? Knowledge of God can't save us, knowing him intimately as, "Father," is what saves us!
Jasmine, I suggest you stop listening to ANY voices. Just open your bible and read. Start with the certain belief that God is good and loves you. Let it be just you and the Lord. There are too many voices speaking nowadays. It makes it hard to hear the Lord for ourselves. Ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you before you begin reading. He really just wants a relationship with you above all else.
Exactly. They assert your ignorance and unwillingness to believe. The truth is, if the Religion and it’s dogmas are based on reality and facts, we wouldn’t need to believe.
He is actually proving how contradictory and nonsensical the bible is. Instead of explaining the passages Kristi is reading where god is saying awful things, he just deviates to another passage where god is saying less awful things.
@@user-fk6zp6he9z it not just Candy. God of Bible wants to take away life and send people to eternal suffering Hell. He was talking like giving a candy to a child and taking away is nothing, but even that child will be so mad if you take back a small thing like a candy. Take away life and Eternal Hell are morally wrong.
Thank you for making this video. It was a prayer of mine that someone who was biblically sound would take the time to refute this woman’s bold yet incorrect position.
I’ve read the Bible and I do not find her position incorrect. Indeed, I can cite many more problematic passages involving genocide, slavery , incest, stoning to death, tribalism, etc, etc, etc
@@horridhenry9920I she defo wrong especially with all the point you said, if you study the bible you will relise everything happened with a good reason, until now some of are still in the same circle.
@@horridhenry9920I bet you don’t haunt the Muslim channels like you do the Christian ones. Go read the quran… that will give you something to feast your hate on.
So according to that logic, where is the actual verse about raping a woman that isn't engaged? Why is the other one that apparently encompasses all rape specifically mentioning a situation where the woman is engaged and not just all women in general like you're trying to spin it. Can you explain this? (Probably not)
This man has no understanding of what the lady is talking about. A good and perfect all-powerful God will have no reason to use imperfect or immoral means to handle any situation..
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@@thebeatagp I'm going to take all day to pick this video apart, point by point, since I don't have the money or time to make a channel. I'll pause typing as I watch your video. Go ahead and ignore this since I don't have an audience 🙄 1.) God is under no moral obligation to extend salvation to anyone. Um, yes, actually. He is. He IS under moral obligation and compunction, to CONSIDER others. To CONSIDER their suffering. To CONSIDER the disproportionality of literally his entire teliology. To suggest otherwise is both without a solid premise, and without moral code, whatsoever, demonstrating the depravity this religion lends. 2.)
I'm sorry but typical Calvinistic explanations do not adequately answer this ladies concerns. If Calvanism theology is true then she's completely justified in her assessments and she's actually being more logically consistent
God asked for human sacrifices in the bible too. The main blood sacrifice was his on son Jesus. You cant call another religion/Gods/ humans evil without calling the Christian God evil to for human sacrifices. This is craziness.
The wages of sin is death, if you commit sin you are under the law. The death of Jesus was to pay that debt for all of mankind, once you accept Jesus you are NO LONGER under the law. It’s the new covenant, he already paid the life debt by sacrificing Himself. God sacrificed Himself so that we could live free of sin, because no persons, not one human being could ever live sin free, except for Jesus, that’s what we call grace. It wasn’t human sacrifice, because Jesus wasn’t just a human. He was with God in the beginning. He is the Living Word of God. So you are not exactly correct, and you are definitely cherry picking yourself.
@@Travis7x70 It is nonsense with a certain logical consistency between its elements. The worst outcome is that some Christians think they can do whatever given that their debt was prepaid. Some argue that repentance is required, but that does not fix it either. As a Christian you can sleep with another man's wife without danger to your eternal soul. It can always be fixed if you repent later.
@@markewing10 that isn’t even consistent with what I am saying. It’s more than someone took the penalty for you, not that you pinned it on someone else. You do require repentance to learn from the sin and try and grow to be more Christ like and sin less. But Ewing no it’s not like that at all. We aren’t blaming anyone else for our sin, we are not even trying to blame our sins on anyone else, we own up to our sin, admit our fault and grow from it. Jesus agrees to pay that sentence of death so that we may take the knowledge and become better people
32:05 And here I am going to ask you to stand down, Mr Parr, while I educate YOU. I tell you with all authority that you are WRONG about the R-word! The verb in the original Hebrew for "to take hold of" when used in conjunction with the verb "to lie with" and when talking about a person, ALWAYS means the forcible seizure of that person against their will. I suggest you go and learn Hebrew (and Greek, etc) before presenting yourself as a know-all expert on ancient texts.
"Yea, you're right. That's the beauty of it..." What a beautiful way to revisit the Good News! I needed to hear this again MOST! Great video; THANK YOU! ❤
Man, it really hurt my heart to hear her saying those things and twisting scripture. Thank you for this video Pastor Parr. Praying for her and all of us as we navigate life with the help of Heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit!! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽
Is it me or do I read people passing judgment on her? Maybe, just maybe her video was meant to be shown here not just for us to hear and understand, but for her too, to hear how Allen Parr has explained the things she is having issues with in the bible. Maybe it was really a cry for help. Hoping that someone could explain things the way Allen Parr did. You know, they say God works in mysterious way. I think if we all were to read the bible word for word without the knowledge of bible scholars, we all may very well fall into the same boat. The bible can be a very hard book to understand at time. Prays GOD! And prays Allen Parr for his biblical knowled and insight!
Thank you for the gentle reminder. It is easy to get angry when someone is claiming to be more moral than God, but you are very right. Hatred isn't what converted any of us to Christianity, but love.
It's not her questions that we're passing judgment on! It's her smug attitude and arrogance! "I know better than God?" We've all had questions about scripture but that definitely wasn't my response! I asked the Lord earnestly to help me understand and also I researched earnestly, to reconcile God's goodness and God's justice! Through that demeanor,I found the answers, and with all the information on the internet we have access to,none of us have an excuse! She wants a God of her own creation and not the sovereign God of this universe! This 5 passages that made me leave stuff is a charade! I don't believe she truly was a Christian nor does she desire to understand God or the faith! She seems full of pride and God hates pride, and may have hardened her heart due to it!
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
I feel the same way brother 🙏🏿 Jesus is the reason for staying in the faith! Truly knowing his love, it's impossible to walk away from that! Head knowledge doesn't mean you know Jesus! It's knowing him in your heart that saves you! We've all had questions about some passages but my conclusion was to understand them, not to use them as a means to "allegedly," turn away from the faith! Whether we fully understand or not is irrelevant, because we must accept that God is sovereign, and he knows better then us! She doesn't understand or can't understand because she's exalted herself over God!
These videos are so funny, basically this all powerful god cannot explain himself in a way so everyone can understands, so we need all these interpreters, priest, pasters, bishops, pope etc and they all have their own interpretation, and they usually want money or have something to sell, much like a pyramid scheme.
Well said! One of my red flag toward religion or God was MONEY😅, I rather ask: God, how can you allow MONEY or PRODUCTS to involve to let people believe in you😅
This woman admits she thinks she has a better morality than God. She is judging God. The creature judging the Creator! That's hubris. And that is usually the crux of the matter with these deconstructionists. They think their morality is better than God. It is asinine logic to assume we humans can have superior morality than the Creator who is the source of all that is true and good.
Give me a break. She's criticizing the morality of a character in a collection of stories (perhaps you would be fine doing this with the god in the Quran or Book of Mormon). Just because you happen to believe the stories are literal accounts of a real god, does not make it real to everyone else.
@@richarddennis4785 She didn't criticize the book of Mormon or the Quran did she, she only criticized the Bible and the God of the Bible, who is the only true God btw.
@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception You missed my point. She's doing exactly what many Christians have no problem doing with other Holy books. Yet when it comes to the Bible, it's Gods word full stop, not to be questioned. For those outside the camp, they might not take it as anything but a collection of stories that various men wrote. Thus they would only see it as a critique of a character that Christians follow. Nothing more.
You didn't even listen to her but turned around and cherry-picked all the lovely good things of a book revised, rewritten, translated a million times over. The bible is full of gods' wrath and fury against innocent babies' children and animals. The bible says god is responsible for killing or had killed 25 million people 🤔 😳 and the devil? Only 10.... TEN. And that was on a bet with god. What kind of a god makes bets on peoples lives? Just read Isaiah 45:7. god says he creates the light and dark he creates good and EVIL. he even brags and says I the Lord do ALL these things. It's why the mouse stays alive in Tom and Jerry because when the cat eats him, the show is over. Why an all-powerful god never kills the devil. It's a book made to keep people fearful and under control. I, too, once believed, but I can't anymore. Everyone go listen to @kristiburke for yourself. She's a wise young lady. You missed your mark on this one, Mr. Parr.
Every time I listen to a person that claims not to believe in God, the first thing that comes to my mind is that they are so arrogant, that they think that God owes them an explanation or that He should be conformed to the idea that they have of a "good" god, but the reality is that God is sovereign, we need Him but He definitely can be almighty without us, He has chosen to love us and care for us, so we must always be grateful and humble for that. The Lord doesn't have to explain why He does what He does at all.
Yes, He does. He does owe us an explanation. It’s not a relationship if He’s asking for blind love with no ability to question Him. He owes ME an explanation for why He thinks He has a right to torture me just because He lucked into infinite power.
I am coming back to Christianity after a 2 year absence please pray for my renewal!
praying that God renews us both 🙏🏾
Be embraced by your loving Father and Savior ❤
You are always welcome home.
Welcome back 🎉🎉🎉
Amen!
I'm so very new to Christianity. I just started reading the Bible. I've started with the book of Mark. I am so drawn to your channel and I really appreciate you and your channel. Thank you for helping me start a relationship with God.
God bless you! Well done for making the step. Always ask for wisdom understanding and faith before you read the bible. If I was you after reading mark id go John. And then Luke and then Matthew. Then read Acts and then read Paul’s epistles. After that I’d read Genesis Exodus Leviticus numbers and Deuteronomy. Keep praying and asking God for direction and answers for the things you don’t understand. Try and find a good Bible led church and make Christian friends. God bless you
My encouragement to you would be to try your best and read/ study the Bible as whole. Reason I say this is because every prophecy and event gives context to what we are experiencing today. Try to understand what is being described from what is being prescribed. I could suggest more but don't want to weigh you down. Be blessed.
@@rmanS2C I wrote down your suggestions to follow. Thank you for taking the time to help me. 🙏
Great choice. Just stay in the Word always
@@dre5773 what do I do if I find the Bible extremely boring?
The real sadness is she hasn’t lost her faith because it’s not a question of whether or not God exists; it’s that she refuses to worship God because she does not approve of His ways. It is the same with the devil and demons who know that God exist. The demons, even obeyed Jesus, but in every case, they refused to worship him.
Why is it sad to not worship someone you don't agree with? There is no right or wrong about not wanting to worship someone, it's just wanting to do your own thing, there's no sadness in that! I think it is sad to condemn someone who doesn't fully understand the being they should be worshipping.
She never had faith, we can’t lose what is a gift of grace from God. He doesn’t take it away if it’s authentic.
@@resinsminiait’s sad because it’s deserving of eternal life in hell.
@@resinsminia It is rebellion against the authority of God. That is a better term to understand, not "refusing to worship". Though as part of submitting to God worship also comes as He is worthy, but the main issue is the authority of God. Which everybody has a problem with. Be it atheist or this lady. No, God must be in approval with them or they will not submit. Which in technical terms means they are God. To them. They are God and thus they feel it is their right to question Him. That is the purpose of those passages in Romans. To bring this sin out from the heart. To reveal it. As it says "What if" and " Does the clay get to question the potter" and so on - that is a dare, a provocation to the heart that holds this sin to bring it out. And it never fails. Because a person who has passed that point (yes, we are rebels by nature and thus we must all pass it) will have a different reaction. That is to be afraid. Which is good, you ought to have fear of God. It is wrong to just go around thinking "well God would never do this" or "God to me will always be..". That is wrong, He is God - treat the position seriously. And after you get fear of God, then you get wisdom, then you humble yourself, then you repent, then you get mercy, then you get peace. You see? People say the first step is to repent - no, the first step is recognition and acceptance of the authority of God.
@Quint-ib4nf one doesn’t make a case against a god who doesn’t exist. None of her arguments were about creation, conscience awareness… they were all criticisms, poor ones at that, at God’s ways.
If you lose your faith through biblical study, then that means you actually read the bible.
If you dont lose your faith through biblical study, then you had someone read it to you.
People could read but still not understand context or phrases in scripture that involves deeper dives. Some people don't understand what they've read and choose to leave.
@@kraftyval2162 sounds like a great plan…..an all intelligent god to write a book that is to difficult for some to understand only to have it interpreted by another human full of sin.
I heard a priest say to ask the Holy Spirit to help you read the Bible. He was really good at understanding it, but he was actually speaking what the Holy Spirit told him to.
I did, and the Spirit also led me out of the RCC. Most of the priests there said normal people can't really understand the Bible, they need a priest to interpret it.
I became a much better Christian after leaving the RCC. God wants a heart that loves Him because He does save and forgive. I found at least one passage that made me say the hell with this, this is as bad as the old liars in the RCC.
But I also kept the door open to learning what it really might mean. It was Solomon saying it was difficult to find an honest man, but he'd never found an honest woman. To me that is encouraging men to hate women.
Finally, since I kept my mind open, I decided that Solomon was NOT a man after God's heart, and he gathered women who believed in false gods, and followed their ways. So God never gave him a good woman.
@@keepingitreal7135 It's not that simple. The bible was inspired by God himself. God is incomprehensible to us. His mind and being are far above us. We cannot comprehend him, which is why most of us cannot understand the bible, even some believers cannot understand it. To understand the bible, you must open yourself up to God and pray and ask for wisdom and understanding.
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I have a cousin who once called me in a panic asking, "How do I know if God chose me or not?!"
I asked him, "Did you choose Him back?"
"Yes."
"Then you know He chose you."
This short conversation conquered my cousin's panic. Praise God!
God extends the invitation. It is up to us to receive it by faith or not.
You are funny.
Amen!
@@dakotanorth1640 It's like seeing a girl that you like, and imagining that you asked her out on a date, and imagined that she accepted your request, then imagining that happened, that you are now in a full relationship, and you both love each other. If anyone asks, you can't introduce her, as it is only a relationship in ones own mind.
Gods grace is available to all people. Don’t fall for Calvinism you guys. There are many biblical theologians who refute Calvinism and they show you with scripture.
@@jen4um I would suggest that one doesn't fall for any of the religions until one has good evidence for a god. If one has good evidence that a god exists, then determine which god, as there are hundreds at a minimum. If one can determine that the god is an Abrahamic god, see which religion it supports, Then specifically ask this god which denomination has it correct, they can't all be correct. If you get this far and find a god supports a Christian denomination, I think gullibility is in your character. Well done you.
I went the complete opposite. I had all of these same questions and more, especially regarding science and archeology and the more I study the Bible, the more I am completely convinced of God.
I can totally relate ❤
@@araenasanchez Same, here
same with me
Same.
In fact, I find it harder to believe in evolution and big bang theory based on what I have been taught by science and physics. Something coming from nothing for no reason and turning into everything violates every scientific and mathematic principle I've ever learnt.🤷🏽♀️
This is a huge issue I keep hearing about... "deconstructing faith" it's one thing to ask honest questions to get to understand God it's another to ask loaded questions and try to nit pick God's word so you can do whatever you want in your own moral code.
Agreed. To deconstruct faith is not to have it in the first place.
@@jabmorris oooohhhh isn't that truth.
We absolutely should be asking the loaded questions! Not only can God handle them, but he doesn't ask us to have a blind faith, or abandon critical thinking. He gave us our brains after all. I believe that if you pray, and sincerely seek God and the truth, He will ultimately lead you back to Himself.
A lot people saying that we don’t need to ask questions don’t realize how much others have manipulated the word and been abusive/misleading towards ppl that genuinely just wanted love God with their whole heart.
@@justthatnerdyfashion I think you've misunderstood loaded... I mean to prove yourself right not let God reveal himself to you.
“Have you ever met a non-believer and They told you that they want God?” Yes! It was me. I spent years during my faith struggle hoping God would reveal himself to me and he never did.
People who listen to this channel and look up to this man, I’m not asking you to change your belief in God, that is your personal journey. But stop pretending like you know why people lose their faith or become an atheist. People have honest reasons for why they lose their faith, and pretending they don’t so you can ignore their experience is so disingenuous.
Hi brother i can understand you i was also looking for god and I aslo preyed to god that reveal yourself to me and he never did that
in a way that i want but he did reveal himself in a way that is right to me that good in his eyes that very loving eye of my love he didn't reveal like we see in photos like a person but his love come upon me and i understand that he's my god than he showed hi miracle in my life that i was looking because spending 7 months with my love Jesus i now see how god would see things and my faith is growing all-day even though my family members saying that they would throw me out of family still i love my Jesus more then me and i truly not judging you aur explaining you why you like that it's just hurts me that someone there is also searching and unable to understand its upto you my bother think again that in which way that god try to reveal himself to you and possible that could be this comment why would i try to convince a person that i don't even know iam a busy person and why would i am replying to you in this hundreds of comment why specifically your comments god bless you brother
Same. I decided to call myself agnostic, because I never experienced a personal feeling of connectedness or assurance.
However, I always found the moral standards and lectures very guiding for life in general.
What made me seek faith again was death in our family. And when I wish my loved ones to be in a better place, I also have to believe in that place.
Its really not. You wanted God in your own image; you wanted to be your own God in essence. I pray that you’ll see that grave error
@@josiahvega671 lol. thats the point the original comment is trying to say. Forcing your own believes. Typical christian.
I think people need something in their lives to believe in somth. Like if you see something that will make you believe, they will believe. But some people just believe in things that they don't even see and that amaze. For me, I am a deist and I feel good in my own. I can't get along with Christians cus they are blind to thinking of their own. They believe blindly.
She really broke my heart when she said substitutionary death of Christ was totally unnecessary. Imagine standing before Christ on the judgement day explaining that your understanding led you to concluding that Jesus Christ didn't need to die to save the sinners. She absolutely never knew Christ. May the grace of God redeem her soul.
Right!
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian.
i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies.
one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda.
“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24)
added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
"She absolutely never knew Christ."
exactly from what i observed. she was never a christian. never provided a christian pov. why? she knows NONE of it!
By Biblical terms she is a fool. She is her own standard now because that’s what happens when you take the All Powerful, Omniscient God out of the throne.
If you actually go to her content she was a dedicated christian for years and no one doubt she was a believer only when she started opening up about all her questions and leaving christianity then people started saying she was never saved just respect people’s choices and stop judging even if its different from what you believe
History of the world shows just how evil humans can be. "For ALL have sinned, and have come short of the glory of God".
When you explained the application of Psalm 137:9, this came into my mind: Something DESCRIBED in the Bible, is NOT the same as something PRESCRIBED by the Bible.
Thanks for your elaboration at that point, Allen!
Exactly! I try to explain the difference between the prescriptive things in the Bible and those that are just Descriptive. For some reason, though, people seem to get the two confused.
So slavery wasn't prescribed in the bible and given instructions as to how to do it properly? Marrying your rapist wasn't prescribed in the bible? Really? It's honestly appalling the things people have to come up with to keep believing in the god of the bible
@@Emanuel-hh4uu rape is a mistranslation from the Niv parallel passages from Exidus clarify that it is talking about consensual fornication. the Bible doesn't say a woman must marry her rapist
@@Emanuel-hh4uu No, the Hebrew Old Testament does not say to marry your rapist. In the chapter in question it references rape multiple time in a row by using the Hebrew word for "forced". Then it uses an entirely different word towards the end of the chapter where the NIV translation inexplicably decided to translate it as rape.... The NIV is not a very literal translation either. If you look at formal equivalent translations you will find that they treat the difference in Hebrew by using a difference in English....and then suddenly it no longer says rape. This situation is a translation and interpretation error that it taken advantage of by atheists.
@@hayfieldhermit9657 Okay, sure, what about slavery?
What I've learned over the years is that people who lose their faith probably never knew a living God in the first place. I find a lot of people who lose their faith come from Christian families and never got to know God in their own relationship with him.
It's heartbreaking, yet so common especially with young people.
I have tried for years to know God and to no avail. If he doesn’t wanna be there for me, then I am not going to be there for him. I would rather go to hell then be with someone who doesn’t even want to show up.
I’m sorry you feel alone or abandoned. We do need to remember that cannot show up because he is already everywhere (omnipresent). God is in every part of nature (such as eclipses, insect life cycles, the seasons, the laws of physics). God has been there through every part of human history. God then gave us his word which is how he speaks to us as well as through learned men who have been able to learn more in depth things about the Bible in order to teach the rest of us.
@ChrisHayworth100 , you appear to be engaging in a derivation of the “No true Scotsman “ fallacy, known as the ‘No true Christian “ fallacy. Lost your faith, well you never were a Christian to begin with. Because true Christians don’t lose faith.
If those people were truly saved, sure God will return them back to the faith, but I think that we shouldn't judge anyone, but put them in our prays, most believers pass hard times , we had already examples from the bible,
He is translating an already translated book. You have to take it as it's written. You can't make up your own justification for what God word says. You can't pick and choose what scriptures are credible or not. If you claim this is the word of God, then you have to take the entire book as it's written rather, it's good or bad. He basically comes up with his own translation of an already translated book. He did not answer any questions.
@@pierregambrell9236 The common way among scholars is to have a hierarchy of the content of the Bible. At the top are direct quotes from Jesus in the gospels. Look up "rules of biblical exegesis" if you are interested.
For example, the Bible says in the book of Ecclesiastes that we all go to the shadow world after death regardless of merit. However, in Matthew, Jesus himself talks about eternal punishment for the wicked.
These things are not reconcilable. Matthew simply takes precedence.
In a wildly inconsistent collection of texts you need rules to make sense. There are still contradictions at the same level. Was Salome at the grave of Jesus? She was but also she was not.
He's not translating he's contextualising. He's putting isolated verses back in context
I agree.
And it's very obvious it's man made. Just some guy projecting his cultures to someone else and who doesn't comply is sinful. Anyone could write these words, how do they know these writers wrote the word of God? How is casual sex sinful? Does it hurt anyone? No. It's just meant to be a form of control over the Christians. And this thing about "true god" is nonsense, an Islamic person will believe in their God as much as Christians. And they will believe in it wholeheartedly just like Christians
@@timwest7467 Like saying adultery justify murder isn't bad enough. Christians are always saying they're "pro-life" but thinks the ones who commit adultery deserve to die. Everyone has a chance to live and to redeem themselves, taking the life away from them is way more evil than an adultery. You can recover from adultery, but you can't from death
You guys really think Kristi Burke doesn't know all of these things. You forget she was an evangelical Christian for over 20 years. She knows exactly what she is talking about.
Well... her words tell another story :)
Not saying that to be mean, but as one of the comments said. Ahe was quite alone with her thoughts and from my point of view didn't really consider discussing those problems she ha with scripture with someone who actually had answers.
@@VespasianOfTheThird just because someone has answers, that does not mean those answers are true and factual. The bible is not factual, is it the claims.
That is true but he was also a Christian and still is would his words not hold more weight useing your logic?
@@piercelee9421 no, my logic and so many other peoples' logic would hold much more weight than his words. There just is no supernatural in this physical world as there "was" in the bible.
@@user-yd5ks7sd8x you said she knows what she is talking about because she was a Christian, I said if that is true someone who was a Christian for longer would have more value in his words. I was not trying to disprove atheism as a whole but your point you made as it is dumb.
Often times I've found that there's two types of Atheist...those who think they're better than God and those who are angry at God. I pray for her.
I have found two types of Christians: people who are afraid to die, and people who want divine permission to hurt people. You are both
Amen indeed... As an ex new ager and new born christian, I'm guilty of both...
Well then you don’t really know the atheist community.
God bless your heart 😘
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian.
i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies.
one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda.
“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24)
added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
When anyone attempts to deconstruct God, they end up deconstructing themselves. I pray God opens her eyes.
This doesn't mean anything, you Christians are full of words but devoid of reason
I tried to help her understand things more accurately, but she slammed the door on me each time.
It finally dawned on me she didn't want to know the truth in these things.
She was ticked and on the attack.
She's mad at and hates Yahweh.
I think she may be hiding her real reasons for this.
Something happened, somebody died, or she didn't get something she wanted.
@@JustinCase-em6ql all we can do is continue sharing the truth. Only God can convict.
@@t-man6197
True.
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Kristi's channel is great for people who left Christianity but are still healing from it.
Yes many left the faith due to believing in their own understanding, not God's or had bad experiences with the religion in a whole. Some Christians don't show good fruits but those don't make God bad in anyway. Can't blame him for things humans do.
@@kraftyval2162 Several years ago I looked into the "exvangelical" movement to try to understand why people left their faith. I thought that it might be that they never were saved, but they all had solid salvation stories, so it wasn't that. But they did speak to their spiritual upbringing and the problem became readily apparent. Allen talked to this, but all these people had "weeds" for mentors and became spiritually stunted. None were brought up in the Word because no one around them had read the Bible, let alone understood it. They finally left in frustration, and like a kite with a broken string, they randomly floated to "The Current Thing" and embraced that.
@@kraftyval2162 Personally, I do not blame God for anything. I just do not think there is any such thing as "God". How can you blame a non-existing entity?
@@kraftyval2162You can if you're a Calvinist.
This reply makes sense if you are truly an unbeliever. Why would you argue about a fantasy?@@erikt1713
Rather than justify the apalling passages in the bible, he finds contradictory passages. This really shows how flawed and unreliable the bible is as a moral guide to anything.
Unless you understand the nature of God - total love and grace but also justice - it is not possible to understand the bible. If you cut god and his intentions out of the word, there is nothing any more. John 1 - HE is the word.
Saying the bible isn't reliable for live just indicates that He wants you to invite Him to introduce himself to you - are you ready for that ? It will change your life, and this will be the best joice you'll ever make
@@CBechteris your god shy? Or maybe not that smart? Or is it just playing games?
What's going on?
@@CBechter, literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@jeremycamacho8864In the end only the truth will prevail. It is our job to search for it.
Other than that, you can examine verified miracles, if you are not willing to invite God into your life yet.
Yep
I grew up believing In Hindu religion but my eyes are open to who God truly is today I thank God in the name of Jesus for revealing to me. Thank you Holy Spirit
Praise the Lord for you ! Blessed fellow saint in Christ !
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It's primitve nonsense, all the same.
@@paulallen7962what’s primitive is sin. What’s primitive is to endulge in self pleasure and to worship created things rather than the Creator.
Is it a sin to own slaves?
"Set a timer on my phone and disbelieve for one minute?" No ma'am my salvation means too much to me. Jesus didn't pay the ultimate price for me to switch it on and off.
Amen
I was born again in Feb of 2022. I remember the day I went from unbelief to belief. Even if I did set a 1 minute timer to pretend I didn't believe, I'd still believe and Jesus knows that. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm His.
AMEN.
@charlesburgess7831 What did jesus pay exactly? He sacrificed his weekend, is this what you call the ultimate price?
@@GerardShah do you truly want to know? At the risk of me sharing and you not receiving, I'll explain it to you. Jesus was fully man and fully God. So as a man He felt sadness and pain and hunger and thirst. He loved His life and His family and friends. When He knew His time was short. He wept and sweated blood... He was devastated to have to go through this criminal's punishment. But He did so willingly. The scriptures say He was punched and kicked and whipped. The skin of His back was like tattered rags. The whip was made of sharp bone, glass shards, metal balls, and leather. He was beaten all night to the point that He was unrecognizable. He was nailed to the cross, piercing a major vein in the middle of the hand and feet causing nerve damage and agonizing pain. His position on the cross was in a way that His lungs was locked in the inhale position. To exhale, He had to lift Himself up by the nails in His hands....rubbing His open back on a splinter ridden cross. His heart busted within His body. And before He died from this cardic episode, He said, "It is finished." Very odd. But He was saying, " Father, I took the punishment meant for Gerard's crimes against you...if he puts his trust in that, he is free to everlasting life." And He showed what that looked like by rising from the dead...proving also that He is God. You call it a weekend, but it more than than that. Father God can see your sin no more and you can live forever because Jesus, as you say, "sacrificed His weekend." To save your soul this is a reflection of the old sacrificial law... of innocent/perfect blood shed to cleanse people from sin. God's 2 natures, wrath and love was satisfied that day. Jesus said, "No greater love than man, lay His life down for His friends." If you are deconstructing Gerard or you never known Jesus. Put or return your trust in Jesus and turn away from all unrighteousness. Take care.
Nah, this man doesn't make any of these verses better
He explains some concepts and ideas that help Christians, but he doesn't tackle the real problems at all
Welcome to apologetics!
Yep
the real problem is fallible people not knowing God, not having the Holy Spirit that reveals His Word, and then trying to criticize His Word without even really studying it
@@slick_Ric Lol. That's a fictional problem. Can you demonstrate you have the holy spirit? 🤨
The children example in particular was a perfect analogy to support the original video.
I watched the Kristi Burke's video about a month ago and it made me question God because I was not understanding the meanings of the passages correctly, and this video really helped me to understand them better and I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you so much!
NEVER second guess God Almighty…the Devil is so cunning this is his specialty…REMEMBER we will ALL go through trials heartbreak and trouble in this life we can’t even begin to comprehend a fraction of the way God thinks…God Bless you🙏🙏 even the great Bible scholar Dr. Chuck Missler would often say on certain passages…..”what did God mean.? he would say I have no idea what God meant..know thatAllen is telling you exactly what the passages mean🙏🙏
Thank you so much for your answer! Thank you for advising and encouraging me and giving me peer support. God bless you too ❤
It's fine and good to question scripture you don't understand, but put in the research, and you will find the answers. It's not our place to judge God, but it's our place to study his word and to put in our best efforts to understand him better! Then, we will be better equipped to defend the faith! God bless you 🙏🏿
It's okay to doubt God. Moses, Gideon, Jonah, David, they all have doubts. Thomas & Peter had doubts. But instead of looking for answers at the right place (Holy Spirit, the Bible) Adam and Eve fell from the paradise, Judas Iscariot regretted and killed himself. After all, it's pride before the fall. So many deconstruction videos stem from this.
Just as she could have done. She's antichrist... Demon filled and chose to rebel.
This morning the Lord gave me a message to remind myself (and Sister Kristi): Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
Yes!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
How am I supposed to not lead into my own understanding when I'm trying to understand these difficult passages about the Bible? Like, take for example, when God wanted the Israelites to slaughter the infants of the Amalekites, those babies were innocent. Why didn't God have mercy on those infants?
No deity is trying to communicate with you. It's your own thoughts.
Source: “trust me bro”
Thank you sharing that verse ridden with confirmation bias. As one commenter said, whose understanding should I be using? 🙄
Her asking me to set a 1 minute timer for not to believe in God made me really upset, because before I was saved I was always angry and even self harming I could never in my life let go my love for Jesus
These people don't care about you. They don't do this out of love. They don't do this because they think it will make you happier, or bring you any joy. This is done with malicious intent. When does declaring there is no god ever bring you joy, hope, purpose, or compel you to love your neighbor and help the homeless? It doesn't. She cares about only one thing, and it isn't you, it's herself. She doesn't want you to feel the joy or love you can only receive from the Holy Spirit. She wants to suck all the love you have gained from Jesus out of you. She wants you to be miserable and think like her. She has one goal, and that is to inflate her own arrogance and sense of self importance. That's it.
Once you know the truth,it is impossible to turn away and not believe it. I would be lying to myself.
@@shannonharrison7711 When you say "Once you know the truth" I think you meant to say once you *think* that you know the truth. Three quarters of the worlds population don't believe what Christians believe. I'm guessing that isn't the truth. There is certainly no good evidence for it being true, though the same can be said for all the other magical mythical creatures out there also. There is equal evidence for the existence of fairies as there is for Jesus, Brahman and Allah. Loads of people turn away from believing in things that there is no good evidence for. How many billions of kids turn away from Santa and the tooth fairy?
I agree! One minute without Him would be Hell
I love how everyone in this thread so far, except for potentially one person, completely missed the point of the challenge. It is to show that belief isn't a choice that you can just toggle on and off willingly. It has nothing to do with giving up love, hope, peace, or joy.
But we aren't talking about not getting candy at the end, we're talking about suffering an eternity of punishment. God hadn't given us the choice. He punishes those he molded for his purpose of bringing about his own glory - his patience there is not to allow those people to choose him eventually- it clearly says it's to show his glory. Stop adding in your own justifications and just read the text. I grew up "harmonizing scripture " which is just a fancy way of not admitting the contradictions that exist all throughout the Bible.
Very good! And much agreed! I would like to see how this guy explains away evolution? I believe most protestants are anti-evolution (although I am not positive?)? If he is one of those, I would like to hear how he explains away evolution. That's when his ability to reason would lose all credibility with me!
I think the first passage from Romans will dictate the rest. People want THEIR preferences to be above God's and He CLEARLY tells us He is sovereign AND that His ways are NOT our ways! He also asks us to test Him by being obedient and holding Him to His Word (which one has to know to find out our benefits). If one does this, they will learn that God IS LOVE and ALWAYS keeps His Word and although we do not understand everything (remember, The Bible says we see thru the glass darkly), we can FULLY trust Him! Let those with ears to hear, hear...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
So true. I think all growing Christians get to this principle at some point. It’s hard to swallow at first. I think we don’t even realize we have been putting God in our own constraints of what WE think is fair and right. Eventually you accept it and begin to trust that He is good and beyond your ability to judge and sometimes even understand. And honestly, when I came to this realization and accepted it, my gratitude towards Him for saving me became SO much greater. Off the charts grateful!
@@CB-zv1jiAmen, same. Well put. 🙏🏽✝️🕊️
Amen
Amen!
We cannot even begin to understand God unless we believe, love and worship Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Seek first His kingdom a His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
My parents made me a Christian, my brain made me an atheist.
@@NestIeCrunch exactly!
The same is true for me.
And I didn't harden my heart. I prayed appox 7 years and asked for my interior confidence that christianity is the right path foe me. Finally, there was a big scilence from heaven. After that, I stopped blaming myself for not praying enough and not serious enough. Today, I am a relaxed and happy atheist. Honestly.
@@KK-jw3iw And let the people with common sense say AMEN!!
"God is under no morale obligation to save us"
No deadass like you made us.
Crazy thing is he didn't just make us but we are parts of him. So going to hell is literally just disconnecting from the source... He uses the word "harden" in terms of suffering which could most likely mean it's not the end either
This is a very flawed way of looking at God and existence. God made you because he wanted fellowship with you. It’s your choice whether you accept his grace for your mistakes or not. God does not send you to hell, you send yourself there because you say no to HIS grace. These are the laws of existence, who are we to question them? We’re flawed in our understanding, we cannot possibly know why HE does what HE does. God shows you what is needed to be shown. A good thing to do is try praying, ask the LORD to help open your eyes to HIM, ask for HIM to help you see the truth and light. God will show you, you need to be willing to submit.
@@ThePugPrince this is a seriously delusional response.
"God made me"
@@ThePugPrince What's flawed is you assuming the truth of reality. When I tell you guys to prove it you only run away like the little cowards you are. Or you make a logical fallacy. In that case you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
I walked away from the faith for 10 years. I've been back for over a year. So grateful for his mercy and God's grace.
@@GameFreak4Ever bless you 🙏✝️❤️
I did that too. But I kept looking, searching, trying to find the truth. Don't worry, your renewed faith won't last for more than a couple years, at best. May I suggest reading the Bible, from cover-to-cover. If this really is the "divinely inspired words," of your God and your, "lord and savior," do you think, "Maybe. Just maybe," you should read the friggin' book!?
@@firecat3613 You are asking to much from these people. They don't believe in things like reading. Education taints the soul. 🤣
God bless you brother. I hope this is the situation that Christy finds herself in right now. She's still young her life is not over so she may still be in the mercy of God's hands. I just hope that she comes back before it's too late for her
@@UnidadFamiliarCristiana thanks!
I'm not going to lie. I have struggled with some of those and other obscure scriptures. I don't have to understand everything. I just need to trust God and know His Word is authority. The Holy Spirit reveals this to me ❤
"I used to think for myself but gave up because ignorance is easier than thought" is literally what you just said
@@xXEGPXx uh, no. It's realization that we don't know everything. Truth is we never have all the answers to every question. Whether you believe in nothing accounting for everything or God accounting for it, you still believe one or the other without knowing all the answers.
Which is better? Questions that can't be answered...or answers that can't be questioned? @@hayfieldhermit9657
@@xXEGPXxwhy do you care ? Literally everyone is given a mental system, nothing is thought by oneself
You can't be wise in your own sight towards the things of God. His thoughts are not your thoughts. Shalom.
I am almost 77 years old, was ‘saved’ at the age of 23 and spent decades and both volunteer and professional ministry in one of the largest conservative denominations in the United States.
I applaud Kristi Burke for questioning the basic teachings of Christianity.
It is a religion which the first part of God, (the father) creates human beings and allows them to sin; and punishes them and all of their descendants for that sin.
Then the first part of God has the third part of God, the Holy Spirit, impregnate a human being (without asking permission) to create the second part of God which then must be killed so that the first part of God’s will no longer be angry.
Absolutely ridiculous😂
Wow you talked like rebellious satan's partner ! 😢
@@phebienewman819 Blah, Blah, Blah.
Is that the best you’ve got?
No substantial argument to ‘prove’ me wrong?
You won’t get them to consider your arguments with reason if you throw it aggressively like that.
The Christian faith is not rooted in reason, it’s rooted in a deep-seated, desperate need to believe. If you present facts that negates their dogma, they are still obligated to dismiss it and follow faith. If you propound logic, they are obligated to invoke a “higher or mysterious ways” argumentation. If you suggest skepticism, they champion credulity.
To them doubt is a challenge to overcome, not a virtue that enables a clearer perspective of reality and truth.
This type of reasoning allows for strong biases towards one’s beliefs especially when confronted in these beliefs in an aggressive tone. Basically they view disagreements as persecution. And feeling of being attacked based on one’s beliefs and cause, makes people think they must be doing the right thing.
Kids: “Daddy, why are we going a different way?”
Dad: “The GPS shows a better way here.”
Person: “God, why do you handle things that way?”
God: “DARE QUESTION I?”
Really?
It's not our place to question God and His sovereignty. Like Allen said earlier in this video, you do not have the knowledge he does.
@oneguywon9816 exactly!
@@Warsteel55 my guy that’s the point of any question: to learn information you don’t have. To say you don’t have the right to ask a question because you don’t have the means to answer the question doesn’t make any sense
But then how the hell can you ever look at your beliefs critically? I could just as easily say “the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster’s just knows more than you”. If we can’t question God, then how can we know anything about him?
Why should I believe a book written people who are "supposedly" born of sin?
Why should you believe a book written by sinful people? Let me try and explain here: "The Bible's 66 books - 39 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament - are written by 40 different authors over a period of 1,500 years. These authors lived in different places and different times, with different cultures. They had many different occupations and lifestyles, but the focus of what they have written is the same - to reveal God's heart and will for mankind."
@karenallen5208 Actually, you're wrong. There are more than 66 books of the bible. 54 books were removed. Those missing books make up the Apocrypha. Now your reply still doesn't satisfy the question that was asked of you. " The authors" are still sinners. The authors are still mere men who write The bible bassed off of other translation and interpreted documents of people before them. The stories in the bible are stories handed down from generation to generation. No spirit, no god. Just people writing whatever the hell they want based on their own thoughts, beliefs, and traditions. Then, gullible people like you, go around believing this BS is true.
@@karenallen5208 see that's the problem with the bible "to reveal God to people", if that was so important, don't you think an all powerful being could have done something better to reveal themselves to everyone without a book(s)? Why base an entire eternal state of existence of billions of people based on whether they're convinced by the events of a book, entrusting that information on the very thing that messed the whole thing up from the very beginning is even more problematic?
@@Joei2049 The Bible is not the ONLY way God reveals himself to us. He sent the Holy Spirit to guide us. Read John 14:25-26. The Holy Spirit is like the wind -- when you repent to God and ask Jesus to be your Lord and savior, the Holy Spirit enters your life. He's like the wind, you can't see where He comes from or where He goes, but you will feel his presence. The Bible and the law were given to us for guidance. If we didn't know the law, we would not know if we're sinning against God. God created us for his companionship. He never forces Himself on anyone. He wants us to follow Him of our own free will. You can understand that if you thought your parents forced you to love them. They don't -- they want you to love them because they brought you into the world and first loved you. This is the truth about our loving God.
@@Joei2049 25 “I have told you this while I’m still with you. 26 However, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything. He will remind you of everything that I have ever told you.
Excellent discernment of the word. When she said she did a better job than God, I felt shocked 😲
She’s an idiot. Harsh, but no other way of putting it.
Me too, in fact I felt physically revolted.
Truly! 😮
Yesss
Yeah, that was satan's problem too!
I kid you not a few weeks ago I was looking up what people say against the Bible and saw her video and some things she said really stumped me. Didn’t shake my faith I just wanted to find out how to get the answers I needed. Allen thank you so much my man! God bless you!
Doubt in a believer most of the time leads to even greater faith I think
@@lf1899 most definitely agree!
Why would an All Knowing God create people that he hates?
The entire point of the bible is thqt he loves us
Who said to you that he hate us ? He hate sin not siners
@@Εμμανουέλα-φ5μ God created everything. And he is All powerful and All Knowing. So he created hate and sin. Ammon Hillman says that Jesus was a gay pedophile child sex trafficker in his interview on the Danny Jones Podcast.
@@Εμμανουέλα-φ5μ "Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated" ... He knew what Esau would do...
@@user-id9oi1py4tunless you were an innocent baby in a city near the promised land then Israelites were instructed to slaughter babies and every living thing
I was having a conversation to a religious friend of mine ,he claimed everything in the bible was true ,I said what if you contracted leprosy would you use the bible cure of killing one bird and burning it and sprinkle the ashes onto another bird and let it fly away or seek modern medical advice? Awkward silence.
Not in this covenant no.
What a lame question
So you are cherry picking the Bible. You never even addressed her actual argument. You just tossed it aside. 🤣
You just said you believe you are better than others regardless of your actions. If you consider god good because he saves a few people from eternal suffering then he is evil and you are evil for worshiping those ideas.
Yes the teacher is wrong this is an unreachable goal. You are teaching kids that their best isn't good enough.
Why would you care though in your logic you disguise hate as love. You have no morals if they are based around god.
Whether you think God is evil or not is irrelevant. The fact is that he exists and he has established a path for you to go to heaven. If you don't like it, too bad. Reality doesn't care.
@@theplasmacollider6431 Then prove it. Your entire ideology is based around faith. So where do you get off telling me I'm not being logical. I've based my world around the physical science we can prove. You don't understand what that even means.
@@JB77776 Which physical sciences are you talking about, electromagnetics, fluid dynamics? I base my world view around those.
@@theplasmacollider6431 No you don't. You might think you do but you can't justify a world built around faith and then also accept scientific theory without contradicting yourself. Your entire view on reality is fallacious.
@@theplasmacollider6431REALITY?!?! 😂😂😂😂 that’s actually laughable… you’re the one not living in reality if you believe there is even an ounce of proof of that tribal war god without trying to reference that fictional book of yours ..
If we are on Earth to be tested with free will but some of us are created just to be destroyed that would break God's own word, because it takes away free will and the chance to be tested.
So glad you made this video. Looking forward to it.
@brijenell0201 Allen asked my take on it. I'd like to take some time to watch it soon. It looks like Allen did a stellar job of responding to the arguments.
Yep you violent bigots have to stick together
Melissa, I was going back and forth with this woman in the comment section of her videos last year.
I was hoping either you or Allen would see one of her videos, and maybe try to help her.
I thought about mentioning her to you two, but I stay out of peoples' business, so just hoped one of you would discover her.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian.
i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies.
one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda.
“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24)
added: very disingenuous of her to claim to be an ex-christian to begin with. and this l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
@@JustinCase-em6ql ❤
How can this guy think it's okay for men and women to be killed for committing adultery? That's NOT okay!
I come from a Christian upbringing within a devout family. However, last year, I found myself on the brink of losing my faith. Yet, in a powerful intervention, God made it clear that I was not meant to stray. This encounter with God was unlike any other I've had, and I hope everyone gets to experience it because it feels like being born again. Jesus, I cherish you. Thank you for rescuing my soul. Amen.
Could you tell me how it felt?
@ilih5487 theres no words that can.explain that feeling
Meaning it’s bullshit. See I’ve had an experience with God, or whatever created this reality we’re in. I prayed one night during a dark time and asked for a sign. I met a man the next day who pointed me to the Bible. I know God is real, but you will never be able to convince me that He is good. I’ll give Him respect, but He is not worthy of my love.
What was your experience if you don't mind me asking? I've been in prayer myself for a loved one.
Salvation is what that is, maybe you never fully trusted in Christ until this experience! I always say head knowledge of the bible is good for our knowledge and understanding! But heart knowledge is what saves and keeps you preserved in Christ!
I used to be a very fervent and devoted believer and it was the study of the Bible that lead me out of the faith. Most of my life was spent listening to preachers but once I was ready for the next step, I started listening to biblical scholars. Unfortunately I learned too much and had no choice but to let go of the faith I held so dear.
Luke said: Jesus said "Thank You Father, that you give your Kingdom to those with the trusting hearts of little children, and keeping it from the intellectuals of this world".
@@lizh1988thank you for sharing that. I didn't remember that verse correctly but I remember that basic idea. It's a very simple answer 😁
@@Jessica-gs1hv My favorite verse!
I had a very similar experience. The more I read the more questions I asked and the less answers I got.
Typical answer that you have to have faith. But biblical scholars who are mostly Christian by the way say the Bible is not Devine in origin and the facts don't hold water.
And rightly she says that what is said in the Bible is contradictory so where is the truth.
@@lizh1988And that's what I call an blind-believer
Somebody, tell Kristi to check this video! Praying for her to restore her faith in the Mighty King, Jesus! Kristi, if you read this, please know that we LOVE you and try to open mind and study God's Word very carefully. God bless!
Kristi has several “deconstruction” videos. She loves her reinterpretations because it fits her intersectional beliefs.
At least your doing something positive.
I just posted this very link to Allan’s video on her page, on the exact video that she presented on her page
Poor Girl. She has misunderstood the Bible and it seem like she had no one to explain it or help her understand it. I see that a lot more and more. Hopefully she will see Alan’s video and come to an understanding of what the Bible is actually saying in those verses. I will definitely be praying for her.
@@danielfortonforton223I will find it hard to pray for her but will do so in obedience to what Jesus said about praying for our enemies, but I will also be praying for the people she has influenced away from God with these videos she has put out into the world and the people she has any contact with. These were very immature ideas she has made for herself and yes, I agree, she has obviously never had good guidance in her understanding. God bless 😊✝️
Comparing candy to burning in hell is disgusting. No loving parent would send their children to eternal punishment for any reason. We're more moral than the Biblical gods.
Thank you that comparison was so tone deaf.
More moral? God created us, gave us life, gave us FREE WILL, gave us grace, yet he still gives us a chance to live with him forever...loving or not, He has every right to destroy us, but He doesn't because He loves us. it's why God's Wrath is righteous in every way. not righteous in the way us mere mortals see it, but in the way that it is way beyond our comprehension. He's not going to reward Eternal Life to those who CHOOSE to turn away from Him and follow their own selfish desires. Loving parents', who are also human and a creation of God, morals are nothing compared to God and what He says.
I'm so proud of you Allen Parr 😊. Thank you for rightly dividing the word of truth.
The thing with rape is that women often times can‘t cry for help cause they are paralyzed by shock and fear. So it‘s incredibly naive to say it was consensual cause she didn’t cry for help.
They might also have a weapon like a knife or a gun to their throat or head. They might have a child sleeping in the next room. It’s very arrogant to assume someone asked for it just because they didn’t scream or fight.
Exactly, the whole thing about her not calling for help isn’t about consensual sex.
the amount of mental gymnastics this guys doing to justify immorality is HILARIOUSS
What a disappointment, I actually took the time to watch this video because I heard that you had made some compelling counterpoints to Kristi Burke's video. Nothing you stated, and I mean NOTHING, debunks what she said, or justifies what those bible verses state. I was pretty sure I was in for a disappointment right off the bat when you attempted to justify Romans 9 verse, God is under no moral obligation to extend to us salvation!!?? I would argue that it is completely immoral to offer a creature you created eternal salvation without a clear path, or way to achieve that salvation, by testing them in so many different immoral ways, when again, they have no clear set of rules or guidelines to go by. If you say god has no obligation to be moral himself, they why is it said we are created in his image, or why does he want his creations to be moral if that attribute is not something he holds as a cherished attribute personally.
Your analogy about the teacher and rewarding candy to the students was just god awful, no pun intended, first, they do have obligations to their students. A teacher is obligated to educating their students, or in a bigger sense, imparting them with knowledge that will help them navigate the world around them as an adult when they venture out on their own, no? So the mere fact of bribing them with a candy reward if they behave in the proper way, by the rules she's laid out, is already teaching them that morality is interchangeable with rules.
Being kind to your neighbors, or helping the less fortunate, or not stealing things that don't belong to you should be considered selfless acts, that help others suffer less and enjoy life more, leading to a more prosperous enlightened and happy society. Going by your logic or your gods logic, those things are only done in order to get a prize at the end, you wrap it all up with a nice little bow and call it morality. It is a good analogy for Christianity as a whole, which uses personal satisfaction, one might even say greed, in order to get people to act in a manor, and live their life as the religion sees fit. That's not morality, let's not get it twisted, morality is a very personal thing, two people that live next door to each other, and are good friends, could have very different moral values. Basically the teacher is teaching her kids to only do something if there is something in it for them, and that is no way to send a child out into the world.
There are many other flaws in just that analogy alone, but they, as the rest of your video is too much to get into, you are simply another Christian apologist, and a poor one at that, I have heard far more convincing and intelligent apologies or explanations of the Christian faith, than the drivel that you laid out, do you ever have nontheists on your channel to debate, or give counter points?? I doubt it, any of them with half a brain would your shred your nonsense to pieces. Good day sir.
Bro, you’ve knocked this one out of the park! Pure logic, and excellently clear reasoning. I wouldn’t have put it any better myself.
Thanks
@cliffchadwicker ..Thank you sir!
Hello Sun,
Just wanted to add a comment on your post. I want to start off with agreeing with you on some of your points when it comes to his analogies. Watching the video I was very confused and disagreed with certain points, but in my opinion making analogies between humans and God can be tricky due to how God and humans relationship work. So I won't really talk about the analogies because they were poorly made unless you want to.
What caught my eye was when you said nothing debunks or justifies those bible verses. I won't go over all the points, but I thought third verse was pretty clearly debunked. The translation here was pretty bad, and even using the same translation from prior verses, we get 2 conflicting messages. One were we are told that adultery (and rape) is a sin punishable by death, and a couple verses later you can pay for your rape and get a wife? Looking at the context of the chapter and also looking at different translations, it is clear that the rape to get wife pipeline is definitely not what was intended here.
Like I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that was said in this video, but I disagree with the notion that everything Kristi was right. If you want to go in more detail about the species we can, I just thought I'd add my two cents. Have a good day.
@@ashtonrene1524Wrong and you didn't pay attention to the verses... Adultery and rape is only punishable by death to a woman that is betrothed or married... It is not punishable by death to a woman who is NOT betrothed or married... This is why the Bible is clearly misogynistic in many of its laws... It's only a punishment of death when it violates a woman who has already entered into a contract with a man... If that woman is a virgin who HAS NOT BEEN PLEDGED to be married, then the rules are different... The man who rapes her doesn't get put to death... Instead he just only pay her father fifty shekels of silver... Essentially a fine and then he must take her as his wife for life... This is disgusting and immoral... And Parr willfully ignored that fact as he was reading the prior verses that are very clear.
@@Hieiman
Hello Hiei,
Yes the verse is talking about non-married /engaged women. I brought up the prior verses within the same translation more to show that this seems to be the outlier on God’s stance due to the translation. God takes rape seriously, as we see here.
The NLT isn’t the only translation that says grape here; there are 11 other translations that use the same word. The problem with these translations is that all these versions fall under “thought for thought” or “paraphrasing“ instead of word for word translations (this information was obtained by the 56 translations available on Bible Hub).
The issue with translating Hebrew to English is how many of their words have multiple meanings. The first half of the verse in question is: כִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַעֲרָ֤ בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ׃
Which can roughly translate to: “If a man comes upon a virgin who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered,”
The important part is the part “they are discovered.“. Adultery only gets discovered because the people involved do not report it themselves. Grape would have the victim report it hence in the earlier verse talking about consensual experiences (verse 23 “If a man is found lying with another man’s wife…”) they find out about it but when it comes grape there’s no reference to this.
Another point for this is looking at the original law in Exodus (Deuteronomy, or “repetition”) when it comes to unwed adultery. Exodus 22:16: “If a man seduces a virgin for whom the bride-price has not been paid, and lies with her, he must make her his wife by payment of a bride-price.”
With all these points, I believe it points to this being the original intent and not the mistranslation (why would seducing and grape have the same punishment when we saw the info from above?). Lastly, this point wasn’t brought up, but I think it makes the situation more clear. The woman isn't forced to marry him if she doesn’t want to (or her father if she is a minor). The following verse “If her father refuses to give her to him, he must still weigh out silver in accordance with the bride-price for virgins.“
The law was put in place to make sure that men couldn’t just sleep with whoever they wanted; if the woman wanted to marry him, he’d have to pay her and her family, and if she didn't, he’d still have to pay her a huge sum. All decisions for the man are stripped from him and given to the woman (or her family). I hope this made my original point clearer. Have a good day.
Religion... What a waste of time !
"I just came up with a better solution than God could". Says everything right there.
Equating kids not getting candy to those same kids being sent to hell forever just shows how wrongheaded your thinking is. I’m out.
You are foolish💀💀💀
The thing you're failing to understand is that humans, by nature were a fallen race, so he'll was already the destination but the idea is that God sent us to earth in order to give us a chance to make our way back to righteousness/him
@@remingtonbeats335 Nope.
Give who a chance? According to the principle being presented the kids without candy never had a chance.
@@remingtonbeats335 Allen(and God according to the bible actually) literally contradicts himself there. First he says how God controls/manipulates you so there is no choice, then he says how we have the free-will to make a choice.
Literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@torresilk4277 I’m not speaking for his bad analogy I’m just speaking to the human condition brought up in this topic
Proverbs 2:12-14,
"Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse, who have left the straight paths to walk in dark ways, who delight in doing wrong and rejoice in the perverseness of evil."
"This book is correct" - the Quran, by your logic islam is true since the book said it was true
@xXEGPXx By the BIBLE'S LOGIC, the only TRUE & LIVING GOD is the Lord Jesus Christ. There can only be one. Yahweh ♥️
@@xXEGPXxpls give a verse , you cant just come and quote it budfy
Why would a god, who created you, need you to defend a book?
We don't need to. But we are concerned about others who may be mislead.
@@peterwallis4288who is “we”?
@@cliffchadwicker Christians in general.
@@peterwallis4288 god: "thou shalt not kill" also god: "go kill the canaanites, men, women, children, animals" anyone who can justify that
hypocrisy is sick minded.
anyone who says "god can kill you because he created you" is sick minded.
god: no trial, no jury of peers, no right to counsel, one crime (what sin was the entire world committing at the flood?)
and one sentence, to burn, after being drowned of course - if you think that is just and fair, you are sick.
Allen, you miss-quote almost everything Ms. Burke says so you can spin your argument to suit your doctrinal narratives. You never explain her criticism directly, but you invent something else to rebut as though your listeners cannot perceive what you are doing. Your objective is to pacify the people who would listen to Ms Burke's concerns with the Christian narratives as written in the Holy Bible. You cannot wash away the words in scripture with creative word play. The simplest way to deal with the problems scriptures present is to acknowledge that they were written by MEN. God did not write any of them. End of story!
You are absolutely right and the fact that he did it like that says a lot!
He reminds me of thos sci-fi buffs who cook up crazy justifications to explain away what are nothing more than silly screw-ups and inconsistencies by the writers.
Men WROTE DOWN the words but GOD is the author of the Bible. According to scripture the Word is God-breathed, (by God)
It’s no different than someone wanting to write a book and hiring someone else to write the words down.
And concerning “controversial scripture”, one example:
There is an order in marriage, just like there’s an order at work, or in government. The husband is the head of the home because someone has to be. Doesn’t mean a woman can’t have a different opinion, but if a final decision has to be made, the husband would be responsible for the outcome, and he’d be more accountable for making a bad decision.
A husband’s role is in many ways harder than the woman’s. If she submits, and he’s wrong, he gets the blame.
And at work there are supervisors, office managers, etc…. There are CEO’s who make decisions and pass them down, But if he’s wrong, he will be responsible, not the guy who just got hired or the guy in the mailroom. So he usually has the sole responsibility for any bad decisions that hurt the company
I’m a woman in a traditional marriage.
My husband is very supportive of me, but when it comes to major decisions, he always takes my opinion into account, but when he makes the final decision, if he makes the wrong one, then he gets all the blame.
But let me make it clear, no man better abuse his wife, because God says “Men, love your wives”
Abuse is not love and God is not okay with domestic abuse, of spouses or children, and a woman should do what keeps her and her children safe.
God is against divorce, but that doesn’t mean he wants a man to abuse his wife or children, and divorce is not the ultimate sin, as long as theres a valid reason, such as adultery of a partner, or ongoing abuse. Divorce causes a lot of pain, especially to children, but abusing a child or them watching their father abuse their mother and can’t do a thing about it, causes even more pain. Sometimes divorce is choosing between the lesser of two evils.
He said he hates divorce because it hurts people, and often especially children, but he gave valid grounds, he said except in adultery, because then vows have been broken. BUT, VOWS are also broken if a man who promised to love his wife, at the altar, physically abuses her, he too has broken his wedding vows, even if he never committed adultery.
He's delusional. I can't listen past 5:57.
Why did you not address "and do whatever you want with them" (the woman and children)?
You really don't believe these justifications to these horrible Bible passages... Do you🤔
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
He also says god doesn't want them to kill innocent babies in the beginning then glazes over the verse where god instructs them to "kill every living thing" (including innocent babies) in the cities near the promised land, this guy is a liar and excuse maker
Its scary how she's trying to convince people to not believe in God. She seems like a very intellegent, articulate woman and prayerfully she comes (back) to Christ.
Did she ever know Him to begin with? I truly believe if you sincerely believe you will NEVER give Jesus up…that doesn’t mean that we ALL don’t need repentance we can’t say I’m sorry and keep up our sins but to honestly try our BEST to live each day with Him in mind ….. and the love and yes fear of Him🙏🙏🙏
@@annairwin8147 Very true.
@@morgansouthworth2894 Voia Ta - BBSO SONG ROMANIA This is actually a poem. However the man of God who put this into song, he was tortured in the Romanian communist prison at the time God gave him the power to make this into a song. Voiata Ta meaning YOUR WILL
Brother what part of Christianity do you believe? There are over 33 thousand brands of Christianity not to mention Catholics.
I believe in a Supreme God but not the one written by the Bible. Religion keeps women almost as slaves. That is the God I believe in. Sorry.
She never will let it go
I didn’t fully understand the crucifixion until I read Leviticus. We as humans needed to see God sacrifice for us, it WAS an act of love that was SO needed for us humans to understand his love and understand our need for him.
Absolutely!!!!!! It helped understand the gist of “Salvation”. If Christ had not come we would still be doing all those works just to appear holy before God and it would still have been short.
Thank you Allen for talking about this, this woman's page is very dangerous and scary, because she didn't understand the Bible doesn't mean she should destroy others beliefs especially those starting their faith, rather you challenge that fact and try to proof and understand the passage. How far you can go to understand God determines how well you love him. How can you say God hates women and his people yet you've been living your Life normally as a hateful woman towards your God for a long time all because you didn't understand yet he hasn't struck you, that on its own is mercy and free weal.
I have seen worse than her don't worry their help to my faith tbh.
Perhaps that is the purpose for which God has hardened her heart.
Well said
@@normanreichwald6158her unbelief and sinfulness therein is hardening her heart. Her arrogance in thinking she’s a better god.. hardened her heart
How does destroy peoples beliefs?
“It’s not the passages of the Bible that I can’t understand that bothers me. It’s the passages that I do understand.” - Mark Twain
We don’t need to understand everything that God does, His ways are greater than our ways, but He always acts out of love and we need to trust that He knows what He’s doing
Choosing to allow someone to be born just for the purpose for them to suffer eternal hell fire isn't love. Justice for not believing in him...who didn't give me faith to believe in him...and then punishing me because HE DIDN'T choose me....not of my own choice....what kind of love is that?
Sure, but you said he always acts out of love. But do you understand why people who don't want to believe what you believe? Because when you look at passages when God told the Israelites to kill the infants of the Amalekites, those were innocent kids. They're babies, aren't they? And Christians today are all about being passionate about being pro-life. I mean, come on. It's hypocritical.
Primitive humans invented gods to control and extort others.
@@timjohnson1646 It is God’s will that everyone comes to Him and that none will perish, but it is our choice
@@donnatrounson8973Amen❤
Insane how a person can carefully explain to you why they don't believe, and all you have to offer is to accuse her of never believing and that she should just "trust in the lord". Do you all realize how alienating you are? Do you hear yourselves? How do you expect for anyone to hear you out when all you have is accusations?
Christians are too lost in the jesus juice. Some are too deep in and can't see how they come off to other people
He is not accusing her of anything it's a matter of truth . What is the truth ? If the truth is God exist which I believe he does then God himself says that you should follow his way not your own way and that is what we are sadly seeing in the world many wars many hateress many injustice because people don't follow God's way they follow their own way
@Parsa-vh2mp it's not a proven truth, it's a belief. Your religion saying that it's true means nothing, every religion says that.
What miracle have you worked? who have you raised from the dead? did you wake yourself this morning? Who created you? I could go on...
@chrisgal8944 "did you wake yourself this morning" yes??? obviously??? I'm an adult I don't have my parents knocking at my door lmao?
and the only people "raised from the dead" were done so in operating rooms via modern medicine, incredible work by doctors and nurses, and also extremely quickly.
Very proud of Krisi Burke for what she has done in coming forward with her thoughts and questioning. What an intelligent and wonderful young lady. I think there is hope for us yet. Christianity is just one of many religions built and changed from old over the many years of our existence. When we are finally able to see the light of this manipulation and move forward I think we will find our purpose and the afterlife even greater than we ever thought possible. We have put our existence in tini boxes and the Universe or God....the real truth, is so much more than we probably will ever understand as humans. There is hope for every one of us. Infinite Love for all awareness is my deepest hope and feeling. Go Kristi!!
There is hope for us, hope in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He died on the cross for our sins so we can have eternal life though him. We believe in him to be saved, not in what we do; this is God's grace and mercy.
@@kraftyval2162 No hope for those who gulliblly believing in made up mythology
Authoritarianism, Vindictiveness, Jealousy, Impatience, Favoritism, Aggression, Inconsistency. While these traits might reflect the complex nature of divine behaviour in the theological context, they would be considered indicators of unhealthy behaviour in a human psychological analysis.
So true
@@darrylhall9503At some point they weren't. Morals aren't a naturally occurring trait. I wonder where you got them from?
Why would god feel obligated to bring those who are non Christians towards him? Who is the one who made them be born in non Christian nations? Then, how are they at fault?
True you nailed it my friend
I thought God created EVERYTHING. No? Or did he create all the other religions just so he could enjoy their eternal suffering because he taught them the wrong religion?
How could she say she was an "evangelist" but can't tell the difference between when GOD is speaking and when men speak.
Simple answer. Was probably raised in a strict christian household and knew nothing of the faith or had a relationship with Christ.
Not man remember Satan know the Bible too Satan uses the Bible to lie to people
Is the Bible the inerrant word of god or not?
@@ToyotaTom04 it is she's not.
@@darrialfleming8548 lmao, she is reading literally from that bible u say is the word of god. You religious people are the most dishonest people on earth, and you lack both critical thinking and empathy
No candies is not an appropriate comparison to ETERNAL TORTURE
Where in the bible is hell eternal?
@@user-id9oi1py4tSo we can't listen to what Christians say about the Bible? Because most Christians tell atheists hell is eternal separation & torment.
@@utubepunk most of them never even touched a bible I'm just saying there isn't any verses about hell being eternal
@@user-id9oi1py4t Most Christian pastors, preachers, priests, etc teach hell is eternal and base that on biblical passages.
Haven't you heard of Arrianism? It lasted many centuries and proclaimed that Jesus was not God. In fact, the Christian faith is not monotheistic.
Not monotheistic. I have been saying this for a long time. If you pray within a religion to multiple deities, that is not mono. Especially the eastern orthodox church. It's like Greek inspired mythology 2.0
Pastor Allen, this was an excellent video you put together. I am sooo impressed by how you put your videos together with all the different Bible verses to answer these difficult questions. It’s amazing what the Holy Spirit can do through us. Thank you for all you do sir! God bless you!
Brother Allen, you've addressed these matters extremely well. I pray for those that watch her videos so as they don't get led astray from our Lord God. I'm so grateful for your doing your service for the Lord! God is faithful.
I “pray” you find you way to not believe a magic man
Even people did not watch her they still dont like your hypocritical religion
I disagree, Kristi Burke is totally correct.
@@lilymitman I pray you stop listening to youtubers that pick and choose what they like from the bible. Whether you like it or not God is your creator.
@@timeames2509 No she isn't.
Alan thankyou for covering this so thoroughly!
This will indeed equip us to deal with these objections.
One of my favorite past times is watching the mental gymnastics needed for Christians to hang on to their faith when shown text from their own book...
Thank you, Allen. I came upon her video a while ago and i went to my pastor and asked questions on the verses she "debunked." Very blessed to have her because she explained it the same way you did. I pray God will take the scales off her eyes. Amen.
Go to a 3rd world country where they basically have no laws and allow all the worst things imaginable and tell them about “God’s Mercy.” If God has so much mercy then why does he allow soooooo much suffering. Doesn’t make sense at all to me. If it doesn’t make sense to my human mind please tell me how that can make sense to an all knowing, all good, and all loving god?
You nailed it
The OT is brutal on women.
It's today's society that is brutal on women. My Mom is an excellent Mom. Even God himself would enjoy her company. And all my childhood I saw what the world has put her through. And it is because she is a champion role model for all women that the others who saw, changed and fixed their ways.
Perspectives on how a verse looks from the outside. As this video has made it clear. "Can" look as though it's a monstrous dictatorship narcissism.
I was her son. I know the correct and "helpful" perspectives.
Disregarding helpful directives, simply because of not truly grasping how they help the world, is unhelpful for my Mom.
I pray the Lord opens your eyes to see his goodness.
My Mom wins this time.
Because of God may she always win. Amen.
It is.
@@Ordinal_Yoda Was it Abraham that tried to whore his wife out when they almost arrested him? Was it also he that offered his two virgin daughters to be gang raped by the crowd? These things are objectively harsh for women to read.
I've been reading it and it really isnt😅 men have had it just as rough in the OT, and if the women are especially treated unfairly then it's a problem with man as a whole living in a fallen world
So the chicken verse proves Calvinism wrong …. 🤦♀️
Why would an all knowing, all powerful, and especially an all loving God make it so complicated to understand.
Why does it take analogy and rhetoric to explain the word of God?
“Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
You are correct in emphasizing that a specific text must be consider within both immediate context AND context of the whole Bible.
Here is wisdom: “Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
A text without a context is a pretext for a prooftext ;)
I've seen several comments about people losing their faith due to searching for reasons to disbelieve, wanting to play God or even claiming they were never believers to begin with. While I can't speak for Kristi, I can speak from my own experiences growing up in a Christian house hold my entire life. I have been surrounded by the word of God since birth, was saved at 7 years old and experienced complete and total faith in God for years. However, after experiencing countless arguments on how to interpret the bible, what's in context and what's out of context, attending churches ranging from reformed, to baptist, to charismatic, honestly I just am so worn and tired. The faith I once had that never faltered has slowly dimmed over time, and it is the worst pain imaginable. BELIEVE me when I say I have no desire to abandon God and that I want to have full faith in him because he is the security I have had my entire life. I believe many people questioning their faith are coming from a place of confusion, feeling betrayed by fellow Christians and questioning who is telling the actual truth. It can feel impossible to sift through the countless arguments, interpretations and opinions of scripture. I can't count the amount of times I've wished I could just erase all of the doubts that have plagued me, because the last thing I want is an existence without God. Having Christians claim I'm seeking reasons to not believe God makes the pain even worse because I never wanted any of this.
To me they are rejecting the Holy Spirit when they believe but still don’t want to except that he is God and not them !!that was the reason Satan was thrown out of heaven. Thats unpardonable sin!! God speaks about the only transgression God will never forgive!!!
Yes I have questions sometimes I can’t understand but the spirit guides me and we aren’t meant to understand everything but to trust our Heavenly Father!!We just believe and trust him on his promises
Put your faith in Christ and in Christ alone!!! Seek the truth yourself along with what you should already know about God! Have you not a testimony? Has he not answered any of your prayers? Knowledge of God can't save us, knowing him intimately as, "Father," is what saves us!
Jasmine, I suggest you stop listening to ANY voices. Just open your bible and read. Start with the certain belief that God is good and loves you. Let it be just you and the Lord.
There are too many voices speaking nowadays. It makes it hard to hear the Lord for ourselves. Ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you before you begin reading. He really just wants a relationship with you above all else.
Exactly. They assert your ignorance and unwillingness to believe. The truth is, if the Religion and it’s dogmas are based on reality and facts, we wouldn’t need to believe.
Not receiving sweets versus being slain by God. That is a bad analogy.
Agreed. Terrible analogy for adults. Maybe he thinks most of his viewers are children? Or maybe just sheep?
It is so fun to watch him dance around, change word and try to depend the bible.
He is actually proving how contradictory and nonsensical the bible is. Instead of explaining the passages Kristi is reading where god is saying awful things, he just deviates to another passage where god is saying less awful things.
@@IsMaryStillPoppin thats what i was thinking!! Like bro explain the actual passage put forward please. I came to this video for that reason!
uh, you are highly mistaken.
@@user-fk6zp6he9z it not just Candy. God of Bible wants to take away life and send people to eternal suffering Hell. He was talking like giving a candy to a child and taking away is nothing, but even that child will be so mad if you take back a small thing like a candy. Take away life and Eternal Hell are morally wrong.
@@yanolja8313 you are not understanding the premise. its not about the candy.
The alternative to not getting the candy isn't just no candy, it's eternal punishment.That doesn't seem fair to me.
Thank you for making this video.
It was a prayer of mine that someone who was biblically sound would take the time to refute this woman’s bold yet incorrect position.
I’ve read the Bible and I do not find her position incorrect. Indeed, I can cite many more problematic passages involving genocide, slavery , incest, stoning to death, tribalism, etc, etc, etc
@@horridhenry9920I she defo wrong especially with all the point you said, if you study the bible you will relise everything happened with a good reason, until now some of are still in the same circle.
@@horridhenry9920I bet you don’t haunt the Muslim channels like you do the Christian ones. Go read the quran… that will give you something to feast your hate on.
Unfortunately, Allen wasn’t the right “teacher” to do so. Praying that Mike Winger will get his hands on this for a more in-depth take.
@@kingjam3s540 Good for who? Not the Canaanite’s, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, or Jebusites.
So according to that logic, where is the actual verse about raping a woman that isn't engaged? Why is the other one that apparently encompasses all rape specifically mentioning a situation where the woman is engaged and not just all women in general like you're trying to spin it. Can you explain this? (Probably not)
This man has no understanding of what the lady is talking about. A good and perfect all-powerful God will have no reason to use imperfect or immoral means to handle any situation..
Exactly, and He doesn't
Did you expect him to?
Believers are likely to show bias towards their beliefs. I’m not surprised.
I just finished the most amazing study with Jennifer Parr, and here I am with another blessing from the Parr family. Thank you 🙏
Wow, that is SO good to hear! I am SO proud of my wife! Ladies, if you're not involved in our community where my wife is teaching a monthly Bible study, you're missing out. I also do a monthly Bible study in our community as well. Learn more here - letsequip.com/community.
Jennifer and Allen Parr are both on the sex offender registry for the rape and torture of their own children
@@thebeatagp
I'm going to take all day to pick this video apart, point by point, since I don't have the money or time to make a channel. I'll pause typing as I watch your video. Go ahead and ignore this since I don't have an audience 🙄
1.) God is under no moral obligation to extend salvation to anyone.
Um, yes, actually. He is. He IS under moral obligation and compunction, to CONSIDER others. To CONSIDER their suffering. To CONSIDER the disproportionality of literally his entire teliology. To suggest otherwise is both without a solid premise, and without moral code, whatsoever, demonstrating the depravity this religion lends.
2.)
@@thebeatagp and my comment was deleted. Of course
I'm sorry but typical Calvinistic explanations do not adequately answer this ladies concerns. If Calvanism theology is true then she's completely justified in her assessments and she's actually being more logically consistent
God asked for human sacrifices in the bible too. The main blood sacrifice was his on son Jesus. You cant call another religion/Gods/ humans evil without calling the Christian God evil to for human sacrifices. This is craziness.
The wages of sin is death, if you commit sin you are under the law. The death of Jesus was to pay that debt for all of mankind, once you accept Jesus you are NO LONGER under the law. It’s the new covenant, he already paid the life debt by sacrificing Himself. God sacrificed Himself so that we could live free of sin, because no persons, not one human being could ever live sin free, except for Jesus, that’s what we call grace. It wasn’t human sacrifice, because Jesus wasn’t just a human. He was with God in the beginning. He is the Living Word of God. So you are not exactly correct, and you are definitely cherry picking yourself.
@@Travis7x70 It is nonsense with a certain logical consistency between its elements.
The worst outcome is that some Christians think they can do whatever given that their debt was prepaid. Some argue that repentance is required, but that does not fix it either. As a Christian you can sleep with another man's wife without danger to your eternal soul. It can always be fixed if you repent later.
@@Travis7x70 So if I commit a crime and then get someone else to take the blame, then I’m innocent of that crime?
@@markewing10 that isn’t even consistent with what I am saying. It’s more than someone took the penalty for you, not that you pinned it on someone else. You do require repentance to learn from the sin and try and grow to be more Christ like and sin less. But Ewing no it’s not like that at all. We aren’t blaming anyone else for our sin, we are not even trying to blame our sins on anyone else, we own up to our sin, admit our fault and grow from it. Jesus agrees to pay that sentence of death so that we may take the knowledge and become better people
32:05 And here I am going to ask you to stand down, Mr Parr, while I educate YOU. I tell you with all authority that you are WRONG about the R-word! The verb in the original Hebrew for "to take hold of" when used in conjunction with the verb "to lie with" and when talking about a person, ALWAYS means the forcible seizure of that person against their will. I suggest you go and learn Hebrew (and Greek, etc) before presenting yourself as a know-all expert on ancient texts.
I hope that Kristi watches this. You can't base your faith on one verse in the Bible. There is always more to set the stage for that verse.
She didn’t.
Well said, Kirsti! Nailed it 👏
....is this sarcastic?
@@dragonheart2403😂😂😂 if this was a debate, Mr Allen lost.
"Yea, you're right. That's the beauty of it..."
What a beautiful way to revisit the Good News! I needed to hear this again MOST! Great video; THANK YOU! ❤
My favorite part 🥹🙏🏾
This is why you must be born again and this is why you need to obey the gospel and repent and be born again
Man, it really hurt my heart to hear her saying those things and twisting scripture. Thank you for this video Pastor Parr. Praying for her and all of us as we navigate life with the help of Heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit!! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽
Is it me or do I read people passing judgment on her?
Maybe, just maybe her video was meant to be shown here not just for us to hear and understand, but for her too, to hear how Allen Parr has explained the things she is having issues with in the bible.
Maybe it was really a cry for help. Hoping that someone could explain things the way Allen Parr did.
You know, they say God works in mysterious way.
I think if we all were to read the bible word for word without the knowledge of bible scholars, we all may very well fall into the same boat. The bible can be a very hard book to understand at time.
Prays GOD!
And prays Allen Parr for his biblical knowled and insight!
Thank you for the gentle reminder. It is easy to get angry when someone is claiming to be more moral than God, but you are very right. Hatred isn't what converted any of us to Christianity, but love.
It's not her questions that we're passing judgment on! It's her smug attitude and arrogance! "I know better than God?" We've all had questions about scripture but that definitely wasn't my response! I asked the Lord earnestly to help me understand and also I researched earnestly, to reconcile God's goodness and God's justice! Through that demeanor,I found the answers, and with all the information on the internet we have access to,none of us have an excuse! She wants a God of her own creation and not the sovereign God of this universe! This 5 passages that made me leave stuff is a charade! I don't believe she truly was a Christian nor does she desire to understand God or the faith! She seems full of pride and God hates pride, and may have hardened her heart due to it!
@@katherinelipari6610 I myself am more moral than the god of the bible.
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
I feel the same way brother 🙏🏿 Jesus is the reason for staying in the faith! Truly knowing his love, it's impossible to walk away from that! Head knowledge doesn't mean you know Jesus! It's knowing him in your heart that saves you! We've all had questions about some passages but my conclusion was to understand them, not to use them as a means to "allegedly," turn away from the faith! Whether we fully understand or not is irrelevant, because we must accept that God is sovereign, and he knows better then us! She doesn't understand or can't understand because she's exalted herself over God!
These videos are so funny, basically this all powerful god cannot explain himself in a way so everyone can understands, so we need all these interpreters, priest, pasters, bishops, pope etc and they all have their own interpretation, and they usually want money or have something to sell, much like a pyramid scheme.
Well said! One of my red flag toward religion or God was MONEY😅, I rather ask: God, how can you allow MONEY or PRODUCTS to involve to let people believe in you😅
The only god we are capable of worshipping in this society is money.
This woman admits she thinks she has a better morality than God. She is judging God. The creature judging the Creator! That's hubris. And that is usually the crux of the matter with these deconstructionists. They think their morality is better than God. It is asinine logic to assume we humans can have superior morality than the Creator who is the source of all that is true and good.
@Quint-ib4nfnope , impossible, there is no morality without God
@Quint-ib4nf Exactly what I wrote. I dont get what is so hard to understand
Give me a break. She's criticizing the morality of a character in a collection of stories (perhaps you would be fine doing this with the god in the Quran or Book of Mormon). Just because you happen to believe the stories are literal accounts of a real god, does not make it real to everyone else.
@@richarddennis4785 She didn't criticize the book of Mormon or the Quran did she, she only criticized the Bible and the God of the Bible, who is the only true God btw.
@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception You missed my point. She's doing exactly what many Christians have no problem doing with other Holy books. Yet when it comes to the Bible, it's Gods word full stop, not to be questioned. For those outside the camp, they might not take it as anything but a collection of stories that various men wrote. Thus they would only see it as a critique of a character that Christians follow. Nothing more.
You didn't even listen to her but turned around and cherry-picked all the lovely good things of a book revised, rewritten, translated a million times over. The bible is full of gods' wrath and fury against innocent babies' children and animals. The bible says god is responsible for killing or had killed 25 million people 🤔 😳 and the devil? Only 10.... TEN. And that was on a bet with god. What kind of a god makes bets on peoples lives? Just read Isaiah 45:7. god says he creates the light and dark he creates good and EVIL. he even brags and says I the Lord do ALL these things. It's why the mouse stays alive in Tom and Jerry because when the cat eats him, the show is over. Why an all-powerful god never kills the devil. It's a book made to keep people fearful and under control. I, too, once believed, but I can't anymore. Everyone go listen to @kristiburke for yourself. She's a wise young lady. You missed your mark on this one, Mr. Parr.
Yup. They misunderstand the poor lady.
Every time I listen to a person that claims not to believe in God, the first thing that comes to my mind is that they are so arrogant, that they think that God owes them an explanation or that He should be conformed to the idea that they have of a "good" god, but the reality is that God is sovereign, we need Him but He definitely can be almighty without us, He has chosen to love us and care for us, so we must always be grateful and humble for that. The Lord doesn't have to explain why He does what He does at all.
Yes, He does. He does owe us an explanation. It’s not a relationship if He’s asking for blind love with no ability to question Him. He owes ME an explanation for why He thinks He has a right to torture me just because He lucked into infinite power.
@@waido_His word is His explanation. You go to hell for your sins, don't blame Him for your sins when He's already given you His son for your sins.
Everyone I know that loves me tell me that they love me. I think 'nuff said.
Non-Christian’s don’t “not want to go to heaven”. You can’t not want to go somewhere you don’t believe exists.
I pray that she sees this 🙏🙏🙏🙏. She clearly has some issues. I love when people defend the word of God. Beautiful amen