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YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC ROAD, OR YOU'LL BE ARRESTED!!!! - Tata Port Talbot Steelworks
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
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What is going on everybody, this is TGA, and in today's video, we're at Tata Steel, Port Talbot Steelworks. Only came down to cover a story on the closure of the blast furnaces really, and end up with the police threatening to arrest me, I do have work outside of auditing, and did not want an arrest to interfere with it, which is why I used the duress card. Anyway, enjoy the video!
This is whats wrong in this country a man with a camera gets blue lights because a corporation calls them a member of the public gets burgled and they dont even turn up
Another piece of footage that shows why the British Police are held in such low regard.
'They say' - so many coppers take the company's word as gospel, its pathetic. Corporate Police again
do you realise he was using a street AP not the land registry lol its a street name AP... thats all it is, it doesnt mean that road is public property lol
so according to him if i open a road map and see a street its public even though its on say... a military base... or better still my business park where i own 19 roads all with names on them lol
he is a clown! with a camera nothing more.... lacking in research ebfore filming lol
Typical cops who police by their thoughts rather than the law !! Uneducated cops taking directions from big business .
Why do Cops like to talk down to the public?
They’re forgetful ,,, the public just need to remind them who they work for
Because you must except my perseved authority no law was broken don't listen to the police the entirety of the uk is private or government land
Because they think, and act, like they are everyone's boss. There are too many people that lick their boots and reinforce their misguided views. A few do show them they are not in charge and they do everything to slap them down.
Absolute horse sh!t we wouldn't take this pish in Scotland we don't have any trespass laws.
Because they are abhorrent
Most helpful council response, obnoxious security and police. Must get back for the mass audit.
It’s happening don’t worry
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Looking forward to seeing the videos.
How can the police tell you you are wrong when they don't know the truth comical
The woman thinks she needs to be agressive and arrogant to claim authority that does not exsist
Wow, female security was nasty piece of work, serious bad attitude out her mouth😞
She was an aggressive Karen straight of the bat.
not realy sure it was female ? some sort of horrible beast is probably the best way to describe that..
@@steventhomas9461 A Karen Kow.
33:00 - the police should avoid creeping towards people.
The Sargent should be charged under section 26 of the criminal justice act.
Section 26 must be the most under used piece of legislation in the UK, yet probably should be the most used.
@dr_dr definitely agree.
@@dr_dr absolutely, right tyrant. Had it been a different day, would’ve torn him a new arsehole
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA He already has 2, one of which he speaks out off.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You admitted in the end you were not sure if it was private because you phoned the council and they couldn't tell you either , so the sargent wasn't wrong asking you to leave neither side had proof at the side of the road so you should have left or taken the arrest and sued them in court YES/NO ?
I think I have mentioned this before to you. Why don't you register with land registry and print out the land owners details and map, called the title and register. Its quite cheap to do. Then when there is a dispute with owners or the police you show them the copy and politely tell them to do one.
Private corporation Police force in action. Make a formal complaint as they have exceeded their powers.
I think it's about time some of these SIA security were being fined for not displaying/showing their licence....even the police have to show their id to anyone who asks for it.
The SIA as an organisation is a ridiculous joke. Not fit for purpose
Looking forward to that thing in the car scrabbling round looking for rats to eat once she's jobless.
The Sgt was a clown, typical of the horrendous South Wales Police, having the audacity to claim he knows better than the Land Registry!
I love your threat of arrest/duress point- brilliant - the clown had no idea how to handle it.
Superb work GA, thank you!
Council staff seemed to confirm it was not a public highway. Land Registry deal with land ownership, not highways.
@@achitophel5852 Yes, but rights of way, whether public (like a highway in effect is) or private appear (maybe I should say are meant to appear) on Land Registry certificates.
Funny that my car got stolen in port talbot and they told me the police wont attend as there were no witnesses and i shoukd knock on doors asking if anyone had seen who took my car,yet they turn up for this
Trespass isn't a criminal matter therefore the cops have no authority in the matter
That was chilling the way you were treated. Ps: the council fella was so helpful and did what he could.
I’m going back with some other auditors
Are all the UK municipality public servants as helpful as that guy? ours talk to us like we're third class citizens
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Port Talbot is part of the area we cover. We found the content of your video captured events which should concern all members of the community.
We were present along with a large number of reporters in the general vicinity outside the plant when the closure news was confirmed. Nobody interfered on that occasion!
We would like to cover any return visit you make. The issues you highlight are ones the public definitely needs to appreciate and understand. Thank you. Baynewsmedia Newsdesk
@@BayNewsmedia Appreciate it, we’re planning on returning on Monday, and I have a contact from the Council to confirm it’s a public road as well
He was superb !
Cooperate cop outs . Using the wind as an excuse for invading a persons personal space to intimidate them . He is mostly certainly not harmless as he abuses the law, that makes him a threat in my book .
Police talking bollox as usual, The reason the TV vans park on the other side of the roundabout is because there is no where to park down that access road, where you were standing is controlled by ABP not TATA and its a civil matter nothing to do with SWP. I live opposite and will be taking my drone over to cover the end of the Blast furnaces, which believe me cant go soon enough with the rubbish that comes out of there on a daily bases and covers cars and houses and gardens.
And will put hundreds of people out of work. Probaly people ya know... Good 4 U though fella 🙄🤡🙄
@@bensmith5231poison people for jobs, that sounds about right. Fuck the jobs.
@@bensmith5231 You have obviously never had 50 years of crap falling all over you home, walls, gardens, lungs et al, plus the cost and hassle of getting anything done about it.
So the Sgt FAILS to do an investigation that includes talking with the council regarding land ownership
Why are the police enforcing a non aggrivated Tresspass?
If they pay the security guard by the pound she must be loaded.
If you don’t leave you will be arrested for public order (swearing).
That would make it a premeditated malicious arrest! 🤔😉
It was unfair the way they took the word of the security without investigating and wouldn't listen to TGA. They might have had body cam, but so did TGA - and it would have revealed that there is no swearing.
Complaint against the Sargent,
A lovely, caring ambulance driver. Complete with SIA card lol
Mass audit. With rigid proof of council land
This Tata crowd NEED mass audit
You can why there is a disconnect, police at an all time low .retired lifeboatman
police doing what they think not what is law .being told you will be arrested if you do not apply needs to be taken all the way
Mass audit is required.
That’s the plan
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You might want to edit out your phone number.
Why? They won't see you there. Talkative coward. Stay behind your keypad.
With that proof, you gotta go back now!
Apart from the male security guard on the gate the two women were appalling and the police a disgrace to the force.
An unnecessary & 'disproportionate response to your presence here'!!
You should've let him arrest you ... ker ching!
When the police are confronted with their own incompetence they always say ' make a complaint if you want to' because they know there own management and higher grades are just as useless and dishonest.
Dirty Cops, dirty Security Karen in a dirty car, man that was dirty, wasn't it? Keep up the good work. Greetings from Berlin, Germany
Thank you, and it was. SWP aren't getting better
You're language body was abusive😂😂🤡🤡😂😂 What a couple of nasty rude people they were, and the walrus was a bully boy. And the cops don't care what the land registry says, just what the Karen's say, terrible policing YET AGAIN !!
The old language body, dropping him in the sh1t again.
The filth is a complete disgrace. They clearly don’t know the laws they are enforcing. Well done TGA. 👍👍
Thank you, I know, I’m going back to go live there with others
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA I think you should. But go back with at least 10 others and that will knock them sideways. Great work mate
Corporate security force doing everything wrong again. 😮
what a KAREN
Council should book them for parking like that, or we all can park like numptys..
It would be good to know what they reported to police to see if they lied to get a response you're always respectful you treat people how they treat you & they don't like it 👍🏻
Trespassing is civil; no aggravated trespass happened. Where is the Public order offence?
He swore at the fat bird, public order offence which was recorded by Florence Nightingale.
Basically he fkt up again.
@@derekfaeberwickwouldn't class it as public order offence if it's on private land.
@@nathanwilson3737 Hi, the offence can be committed on private land. (There was no offence here of course.)
@@ysgol3
Then it would be a private order offence which is civil.
It also has to be swearing with police hearing and courts have often said and thrown cases if swearing out as in this day and age tout h shit if we want to swear we can, no one tells me what to say and when, Ive sworn at police and judges, shop workers, nhs staff if people puss me off I swear simple, don't piss me off
Typical, the Police believe the security and will not check the land registry or council. i wish this had been taken to court.
Van blocking the highway
They never seem to make or show clear boundaries.
I saw her in The League of Gentlemen.
Driving a taxi or in the local shop?????
I saw her in the pie shop , she bought the lot
The paramedic came out ,just in case the woman security had to walk after tga
"Public" order offence ? according to them you're not in public (not sure how that works)
Public place by definition regardless, at the material time the public have access, even if that section at the junction isn’t publicly owned
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Oh,ok, just seems they've got an arrest excuse for anything nowadays, is nowhere sacred anymore 😞😁
@@sprinkz6187 and yeah seems so, if I didn’t have to get up the next day, probably would’ve taken the arrest, in normal circumstances anyway, we live and we learn. NNY did the same recently in Leeds
Ointeresting seeing Tata having their own ambulance. Many years ago, when i worked at Unipart, they had their own fire engine!
Genuine question, can you have a public order offence on private property?
Kermit's girlfriend is now a security guard driving a nice clean vehicle.
Kopz say they don’t know, so you must believe them !!!!
WHAT is the point of tarting a vehicle up like a fair wagon when it looks like a bin wagon ie bloody filthy, (WITH APOLOGIES TO BIN WAGONS)
" I been watching you in the control room and your language body is threatening enough"
Fook me, where do they find these idiots?????
Lovely clouds.
so not one bit of investigation or research..... no surprise there then.
The investigation and research had been done FOR THEM the twat of an officer just refused to accept it .
Police lying and aggressive, SIA security lying, aggressive and acting criminally ie. no badge on display, what a disgrace. Great work from the council and auditor.
It's quite clear that police aren't meant to get involved in civil matters.
Also, if he's tried to argue it's not a public place then ask him if they public order act would apply if you said something. He can't have it both ways
No balls, just stand for something or stop doing this. Come on stand up to them they are disgusting. You could have said I refuse. They are just pushing their luck.
Nothing like a hi-vis for extra special powers lol
Funny thing is, I was wearing a hi vis too lol
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA lol, yes but yours didn't have that special logo on, lol
@@resist. lol, true 😂
What you have their is wrong, 😂 We are right without knowing what we are talking about 😂 Another case of security and Police getting together and bullying a member of the public undertaking a lawful act.
My understanding.Public lighting=public land!
Found a couple of old boilers there.
Piers all of them and the police are being bullies
SIA refuser was arrogant, refused to even accept heCOULD be wrong
@A2Z1Two3. He WAS wrong! The following Gov.uk webpage states, " it is a condition of your licensed status that you wear the licence where the front can be seen at all times when engaging in designated licensable activity unless you have reported it lost or stolen, or it is in our possession.
The exceptions to this are if you can demonstrate that the nature of that conduct on that occasion requires that you should not be immediately identifiable as someone engaging in such conduct. On such occasions you must carry your licence on you and be able to produce it on request. This allows store detectives or close protection operatives to perform licensable activities without the need to be identifiable. This cannot apply to vehicle immobilisers." www.gov.uk/government/publications/displaying-a-front-line-sia-licence/displaying-a-front-line-sia-licence
TATA, India's biggest conglomerate, a private interest . . . vs . . . . a member of the public.
Mmmm, I wonder whose side the British police will take ?
Coroporations only look out for other corporations … it’s called jurisdiction
Bleeding spam ads will break your heart.
Loved the start of the Vid, great research
Do they pay this security women by the hour or by the pound. If it's by the latter she must be loaded.
The steel works aren't closing down, the blast furnaces are closing down and being replaced by a new system that will recycle old steel
Imagine waking up and seeing that looking at you?
I also forgot to say there’s NO private property signs on display & when plod turned up, the place where the cyclists were crossing, it has tactile paving slabs which are only laid by the council.
Yeah that’s what the guy from the Council said, it’s where the drop kerbs are is the end of Council land
I've got tactile paving slab on site where I work and it wasn't put down by the council, bloody pain in the arse when moving a trolley full of equipment.
My first video of yours. SUBSCRIBED! Cymru am byth 🏴
Piggy had absolute no idea where property line was, just went by what the security told him.
The police need to stop giving unlawful orders and do their research before they give support to compulsive liars.
You did lose the high ground by swearing earlier but then they were saying if you don’t leave, they might take a complaint or even arrest you for not leaving. Blackmail arrests never work for plod
The streetlights on that road are the same as on the roundabout, so these streetlights belong to the council. The council doesn't install streetlight on private property.
Please, please,please, when you go anywhere like this aproach from known public area and video the lampcolumns, street furnature. if local authority it will have a ID number painted on it, as long as that format continues you will be on public land for sure. Also when you contact the Rights of Way Officer get a measurement from a given piont, that way there can be no srguement. I know this from a career in civil engineering, Get the RoWOs reply in an email and show it to the police, The RoW Officer at the local Authority has last word on any right of way that no court can overrule as his evidence originate from the definative map (that he is responsible for updating) which a court would have to refer to.
Thanks for the tip
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA You are more than welcome, least I can do in return for 'entertainment'.
Yes it made for a very interesting video with those ill informed people including the Hedlu Police throwing their weight about (again), I cant wait for round two.
The “Streisand Effect” has nothing on this skulduggery, this chicanery. It may be the case that people from all over the world will be wanting to pay a visit to walk down that bit of public road, some putting their thumbs in their ears and waggling their fingers at them. Vans selling fish and chips and hot dogs will be doing a roaring trade to the gathered masses.😀.
Well weren’t those two Karen’s delightful, not once did driver Karen be polite and professional, when will cops stop taking companies side and get ALL facts , have you put in complaints on cops and Karen?
Copper couldn't prove you were on private land and was happy to arrest you for public order without even reviewing the footage, as for that woman, it's nice to see her representing the dragon on the Welsh flag.
I love the way that the bearded one wears his taser low-slung on his thigh - just like the old gun-fighters of the Wild West.
get a printout from the council with covering letter & go back there. Take photo copies of this & when police come & threaten you with arrest, show police the council letter & map & if they arrest you after proving you are on public land, then police will have to pay significant compensation to you
Why did you not stay there? You have the rite to stay and you know it!!
100% would of stayed where I was until I could see his badge, showing me that he had some sort of authority..
Well they will be out of work by the end of the year, feel sorry for the other 2998
Stand up to these cowardly officers, don’t stand under their unlawful directives , just don’t listen.
Great video pal 👍
Thank you
So security, but her little friend in the van is pulling the woman card?
Pretty much
Strong independent victim
that ambulance driver eats steel - gruesome
When I watch the videos of all the auditors (witch I love) and read the comments and add a comment I am running out of superlatives because the police and employees are still not getting the training 💔🇬🇧
You should be able to determine absolutely where the boundary is.
Find the public area and stay there.
She clearly told everyone how well she’d done by getting the police to remove you.
It’s hard to see what good you’ve done there.
Start and end at the same place and your story becomes so powerful.
If you were so confident that it was public land why did you leave?
Because I didn't want to get arrested, I'm going back anyway
Going to go live when I go back
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA They were bluffing to get you to move. Typical tyrant behaviour from the police, always taking the side of companies instead of the public.
You bottled it what a joke.
@@Bazw14 He's going back
In this incident, if have no were specific to be, should of let them arrest you, take it to court, CPS will probably drop it before it even gets anywhere and then sued the police and also the site as well, HNK solicitors would be able to assist
"Language body" got me 😂
They are putting in electric arc furnaces so they can turn scrap into steel
once again you see that big business have the police in their pocket
Back in the eighties we called those fellas road fillings.
that ambulance driver has more breaks than a snooker player.
The police attended so Obviously no crime was committed