EVE Solo PvP: Phoenix vs Horde of over 100
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2018
- Fun little skirmish in Horde space, BWF on the Oijanen gate. Trying out an ancillary fit HAW Phoenix.
The fit used in this video is:
[Phoenix, Ancillary HAW Phoenix (Fit)]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Shadow Serpentis Heavy Stasis Grappler
Gistum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Capital Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Capital Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Module II
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Corpus X-Type Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Capital Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Nova Javelin Torpedo x500
Strontium Clathrates x1500
Nitrogen Isotopes x70000
Inferno Javelin Torpedo x500
Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo x500
Scourge Javelin Torpedo x500
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo x2000
Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo x2000
Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo x2000
The music in the video is:
Don't Rock the boat (Bart & Baker Remix); Bart & Baker
Istanbul (Not Constantinople); Milan & Phoenix
A New Error; Moderat
EVE Online: Where Players are the Raid Bosses
Even after 5 years I keep coming back to your videos.
You created some truly amazing content.
Thank you, I am really glad you enjoyed it.
just started eve again after 10 years because of your old videos,.. love em@@LaskerEmanuelEVE
@@nug4table Thank you man, I hope you enjoy the hell out of it.
As a noob those 2,000+ damage numbers are even scarier than the wall of red names in the overview
I love when you are a system by yourself and the overview fills up with a sea of red, it's a wonderful sensation of anticipation.
They are enthusiastic about for you..
*comforts :D
I love watching your dread fights. I especially appreciate that you explain what you are doing and why.
Thank you. I personally enjoy other videos more when people translate what is going on in their heads. I try to follow suit.
Just woke up. poured myself a coffee, and saw that you put up a new video. My day is complete. Thanks Lasker.
Thank you man, I really appreciate the kind words. Enjoy that coffee!
A little recommendation,
At the end of the video add a millboard screenshot of all the ships you have killed vs your ship and stuff
Not a bad idea man, thank you for watching.
That or could you link a battle report in the description, would love to see all the kills in detail. Great content.
@@aaronnoble4945 Really late on this but the killmail wasn't so hard to find. At least I think it's the right one.
zkillboard.com/kill/70117878/
Battle report is here:
zkillboard.com/related/30002440/201805220000/
Thank you for bringing fight to Horde space :) Both newbeans and us not so new beans love it. Respect. Good Fight.
Thanks man, good fight.
Thanks for another great video Lasker, always fun to watch!
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed!
wow man. I was stressing out just watching that. What an onslaught of dps! Great stuff.
Thank you man, I am very glad you enjoyed! It ended up being a ton of DPS on field towards the end. As they get more ships and the pressure builds I could feel the weight of it, although held up longer than I thought I would. When is your next video going to come out?
A Smartbomb would of done a lot of good for drones and Frigs that got too close
MrGrubee48cc he is located too close to the gate, he need to warp in 10km
5 years later, still one of the best HAW dread fights ive ever seen
Thank you!
@@LaskerEmanuelEVEwill you ever do another one? I’d happily watch that video 10 times over just like all the other ones
Easily one of my favorite EVE content creators (in and out of game, ha) - great video, glad to see you finally using an ancillary fit. How did you like it compared to the non-ancillary?
I thought I would like it a great deal, but found it not nearly as good as I thought it would be. For one thing it takes a ton of mental cycles to operate, for another, it burns through 3200s FAST. I will go back to non-ancil for the next one.
I think the mental cycles is just something you'd eventually get used to, much like flying a non-ancil is to you now. Me personally, I don't have a real preference one way or another, just recall a lot of people recommending you try it and it's always neat to see someone trying something new to themselves, especially in EVE.
Definitely was getting nervous watching your 3200s # going down and very quickly, and those reload cycles were pretty nail biting at times lol. Makes me want to crosstrain to a Phoenix!
I think this is one of my favorite Eve videos Ive watched in a while.
I can fly a pretty solid Phoenix right now and I really want to, but I'm nervous about torpedoes because I always feel like I have trouble applying damage with missiles.
I tend to fly fits that focus a lot on application, but I feel like Phoneix application is very strong in general. Highly recommend giving it a try.
i love how you comment on what you're doing and what others are doing, your videos are really good man :)
Thank you!
Beautiful, i love watching your stuff i don't have the time to play much eve anymore and i love this kind of big ship combat its amazing to watch no matter the mistakes because Hindsight is 20/20 after all lol keep up the vids and the amazing fights!
Thank you very much, I am very glad you enjoyed. I really like the 1 v Many big ship vs blop gameplay style, I think it is a lot of fun.
thanks for your video always a pleasure to watch
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed!
That was pretty good.
Excellent micromanagement under pressure, the ancillaries held out like a boss. Good work one-hitting the smallbois. Demoralizing the enemy. Horde tends to not really stay a horde after our buddies start dying off one by one. We are a newbean corporation afterall.
Definitely consider rigging that with a smartbomb if you ever come out here a second time. We'd love to have you.
-KVM
@Gambit27 nahh fam. just observing.
Great fight. And great music too. Didnt hear Giants Istanbul for ages. Thx for reminding me of this song-
This is the first video i watched from you and already subscribed. Can't play Eve atm due to wooden pc and luck of time but felt really good watching this video so ty. One question though do you use freighter or jump freighter to carry your balls around 😁
- Payne, I can't feel my hull.
- It aint there.
Nice vid, as usual o7
Ouch, my hull. Thanks man, appreciate the kind words.
Thanks for bringing the fight.Subbed
That was awesome. I have to say though, the second ballsiest guy on field was that hype pilot. He must have seen all his friends die to the HAW, saw himself get locked up, and still just stopped his ship at 10km and unloaded on you with for 30 minutes.
This is beast. Thanks for posting my next ship is the Phoenix. This inspires me.
Cool music which i like, amazing fight with a Horde :) Thx!
First off loved the vid, this is the kinda things I really want to do. Second I did notice some mistakes but I know you probly did too so I'm not gunna say anything further. I have had worse performance with lesser situations and still you did good. I'm going to go hunt down that battle report. Subbed! great video man
Ah thank you so much for the kind words! I definitely have a ton of mistakes, and like you say, it's just all about increasing the ability to make good decisions under pressure. I am very glad you enjoyed, if you ever want to talk shop I am happy to.
What a crazy brawl. You held out for a very respectable amount of time.
Yeah, at the end with so many dudes on grid the pressure felt crushing. I was glad I was able to get a brawl out of it.
Thank you very much and congrats on your first HAW Dread fight! I personally think they are a ton of fun, my favorite ship class in the game.
You stood there like a boss man. I don't know if I will ever be able to handle this kind of micromanagement while pressured so I can't really say anything about your performance other than you did as best as you could given the circumstances. Very well done, it was a good fucking fight :)
(however, you should've killed the hyperion first, lol)
Yeah, I was worried about the big stuff catching Reps, but you are right, I should have at least tried the Hype as a target. Ever fight I feel like I get a little better a the mechanics, but yeah, it's a ton of stuff to keep track of.
Yeah man you were wrecking the battleships when targeting them as most of your DPS applied. The praxis was getting reps but melted.
Legendary as always, keep it up man
Thank you very much, the kind words are much appreciated.
too bad that bigger ships like that, when they explode they don't damage or destroy ships in the vicinity
That's called the *AOE* , short for *Area of Effect* damage
I'm pretty sure titans used to but they removed it because it had a performance impact on large battles
really love music pick in your videos
Thank you very much!
u are crazy man
good video as always
Thank you!
That was a beautiful fight, man. Welcome to the Imperium.
Thank you very much
Great vid. Respect to you and your Hugh balls
Thank you man, glad you enjoyed!
Man this makes me want to get back into EVE
As a member of horde, I salute you sir! Even if you're a filthy bee :D
dude that looks like a bloody hoot. I knew you had fun cause I had fun just watching it.
It is a lot of fun. It's also a lot of fun to share, I am glad you enjoyed!
Nice to see you are horde space! love the vids
Thank you very much!
Loved that. Makes me wanna try it myself. What capital skills you have ?. All at 5 or some lower ?. Great management of cap btw. Hard to do that when you are under it so heavy.
Thank you for the kind words. The skills are definitely not all Vs, it's mostly IVs and Vs, with perhaps a handful of lower skills mixed in. I have spent a lot of time working on micro management, but of course their are always improvements to be made.
You bring excitement to Eve o7 to you good sir
Thank you very much, I appreciate the kind words!
Jesus i know im late to the party but your music is just on point, great vids dude
Thanks man, glad you like it!
I'm not sure if you are still looking at comments here or not.. But I'm curious about something, and maybe you can help me. Would it make sense to fill a high slot with a smart bomb to kill off some of the drones and reduce the damage you're taking during a fight.. or, is it usually more advantageous to put something else into a high slot and just eat the drone damage? I'm very much a noob when it comes to large gang PvP and just finally trained into my last dread today so I'm curious. Thank you for your time and your vids.
New vid by Lasker, immediate thumbs up!
Thank you!
Thank you for posting :)
Thank you so much for these videos. I've been learning how to fly a dread (My corp and I are building up for our first titan and I wanted experience in the closest thing we could find). It's been super helpful to learn how you think and control the space with a dread, as most people who make videos with them don't actually explain what they're doing.
Just out of curiosity, do you have any advice for flying the titan (it'll be a Leviathan, hence me learning the Phoenix), or videos like these you could recommend? I have a friend who used to be a titan pilot for goonswarm who was going to teach me on the test server, but since it closed I need all the advice I can get beforehand.
I don't have a ton of Titan advice, it's pretty different, because I was comfortable losing a dread and mostly titan pilots don't feel that way.
Most people who fly supers do so in super fleets, and do so under the command of super fleet FCs. When I flew a dead, I almost always knew who had capital supremacy in a given system I planned to be in, often I knew who their cap FCs were, if they were on, and how long it would take to form. I was sometimes ok being caught, but it was mostly not by surprise.
All of the above all the more so for a titan, which is SO much more ISK on grid.
Красавчик!
Don't forget to use the trick I told you with the 3 giant secure cans in your fleet hangar, you get a hell of a lot more boosters in there compared to just sticking boosters directly into your hangar.
OP to remind you:
Btw a little tip with the cap boosters in fleet hangar, dont stack them in there like that, get 3 giant secure containers, name then can 1, 2, 3 etc. fill with navy boosters and put in fleet hangar. It allows you to get around 120 boosters in the cans altogether, with 1k m3 spare in your fleet hangar for stuff like spare fuel, mods etc.
Yep, great point. Logistics did not work out to have the in place when I decided to go, but it's a great point.
Incredible management skillset
ho me GOD how calm what courage very good mastery bravo I bow
It's funny, my "shakes" are pretty mild in dreads now, but when I get solo battleship fights my heart is racing a mile a minute. Something about it being different...
So, do you recommend the Phoenix for this type of fights? before another dread?
I think Phoenix is the strongest, but honestly they are all fun.
a smarbomb would of crippled a decent amount of dps there also i was stressed out just watching the video couse of the cap/anci cant imagine how you were feeling hehe. nice video tho
Mostly I feel the need for the neut to help with tracking on a turret dread. On the Phoenix... maybe. I have the idea on the too be tried list. The Anci setup definitely requires a lot of mental cycles to make it work.
Well at least no blues were whoring this time haha!
I really dont feel a single smartbomb is ever worth it on any fit really. Heavy nuet is way more value. Peels tackle and nuets small ships pretty hard. One smart bomb just isnt really good enough to get rid of heavy drones. and light and med drones just arnt that big a deal for these ships.
Would have.
Will Whyatt no ofc its only 300 drones on average. Why would u want to get rid of them. They cause only very small dmg to capitals 😜✌️😂
The wonderful fight!!!
I can't help but feel with all that incoming drone dps and small stuff a defensive smartbomb
would have been much more useful than a neut in the highs, but awesome video as always :)
Man, I wish I could be a part of fights like this
great as always
Thank you, glad you enjoyed.
How much DPS by drones? They are problem? What can do Dread vs drones?
Huge man balls here & great video. It is beyond me though why you opted to shoot those frigates instead of the brutix, nado etc. on grid
New subscriber here. I've watched about eight of your videos so far and have enjoyed every one. I haven't played EvE since the freighter nerf, and I've never used a combat capital ship, so I have a newbie question for you: In situations like this where your shield hp spikes up for a while, wouldn't it be beneficial to have something repairing armor at the same time? Or are modules where the armor repair would go too important to be replaced?
Side note question: Why on most videos do you cover Local chat?
As for my armchair suggestions:
1) Have you considered adding a "kill count" near the bottom right where it shows the kill mails being sent? I think it would add to your videos to include how many ships you kill during each engagement/video.
2) Have you ever had/considered a buddy flying a stealth bomber or battleship for some of the smaller engagements (like the 14 man one) so that he/she could snipe opponents?
3) Are there cloaking devices for capital ships? I wonder if there'd be any advantage to have a partner de-cloak after you've lured ships to a predetermined spot? Related: Have you considered teaming up with another corp buddy or someone you know to fly two of these ships (or maybe different fits to "cover different techs")?
Anyway, I really enjoy watching!
I am very glad you are enjoying the videos!
Mostly in EVE you want to tank your ship in either shield or armor (or hull). Ships have bonuses to one or another tank type, and when you spend slots on something like a resist mod, they generally apply to either armor or shield. Their are rare cases where it pays off to dual tank a ship, but they generally apply in certain odd situations.
Side note Answer: In some cases their is chat going on that I prefer not to share (While I was in CVA I was in a number of leadership channels, sometimes things were said not for public consumption). I also need an area on the screen to put comments, and that part seems as good as any.
1. I have done a kill count a couple of times, the Moros video and one other I think. It looks great, but it's a bunch of work to setup since each line item is a separate artifact in the video editing software. Invariably I get them out of sync with the rest of the video and have to spend a bunch of time fixing them. You are right though, it looks great.
2. I have had friends join me from time to time, one of the problems is that while a Dread can hang out with 50 hostile subcaps on grid, not a lot else can (without a boatload of logi) and so you have to pick something that is not just going to get blaped. I have through it might be fun to have a gang with a couple of max range Jackdaws hang out with a HAW Dread, the Dread can tank the gang and the Jackdaws can stay alive because they can stay so far from the action. Maybe have a ceptor too to provide warp ins.
3. Capital ships can fit cloaking devices, but it reduces your scan res, which raises the already incredibly long lock time (and eats up a valuable utility high). Typically if you want to "surprise" people with more force you use a cyno rather than a cloak. The problem with that is a single HAW dread can't hold a gang on field, they only stay because they want to, so it does not make great bait. I tend to try to setup fights that my opponents want to take, and then try to play that fight well, rather than surprise them with more force than expected (which is also a common strategy)
Errmm is grappler's range calculated from the sig radius center ? Or from the edge ?
nice! I hope to get into stuff like that soon. I am amazed you did that with an empty clone. I would have thought that even a cheap-ish clone could have given you some significant boost?
Sadly crystal implants don't work with capital ships, so the most obvious candidate is out. If you have an empty pod, you can test roll drugs, and if you don't like the side effects you can pod yourself, do it again. Look forward to hearing about your first dread brawl.
ah, that makes a lot of sense with the empty pod then. Thanks for the reply.
>be me
>see this in suggested videos.
>published yesterday
>"ooooh" out loud
Ha! I hope it lived up to expectations
100%
That was mesmerizing
Thanks man, very glad you enjoyed! How are things in FW of late?
Pretty good. Had a serious Conan Exiles binge recently so I need to get back into space ;)
просто невероятный бой !
So does that siege or bastion module repair shields and then you have to use cap to keep that thing fed?
Just started out here.
The siege/bastion module locks you in place, so you can't move about or warp off, but it also gives a big bonus to local reps. The shield/armor repairer gives you more shield/armor, but consumes cap in the process, so you have a cap booster to keep it fed.
wow you kick ass! that was kool!
Would love more capital pvp of any kind.
11:50 - Aligning to Vitalik's Gay Bar
This game always accomplishes to make me kek, even in the middle of a fight.
why I never see smart bombs fitted? or is this not possible at this big ships? or is the dmg of the drones not a threat?
love seeing pl ships go pop
Lasker - moar big ship fights!
Smooth soundtrack and nice erm what are torps do if lazers peew peew and gunz bang bang?
Glad you enjoyed the music, not sure what sound torps make. Boom Boom?
Love my Phoenix. I get shit because most everyone in Null flies the Naglfar, but a properly fitted Caldari ship can absolutely wreck a battlefield in the hands of a capable pilot.
love it, would of sieged read before the end of that last siege cycle and deagressed with 1 min siege to go, you weren't able to kill much of what was ongrid and tank was running out, ya could of fought them other side of gate and forced them to take the gate guns, massively reducing their efficiency :P
keep the vids coming bro :)
he was 11kms off the gate though, he would have died way before getting even close enough to jump through, there was noway out of that.
ah yea, my bad, I thought he had drifted himself back to gate, never mind :)
Nice fight, do you have the Battle Report with how many you killed?
Great fight! With that XLABS you might need a second person handling tank while you focus on damage application. So many mental cycles my brain was fried trying to keep up. I would like to see you retry this with a Co-op solo. Maybe hook a second keyboard to your rig and some one else can alt/shift function key the tank.
I am sure CCP would frown on the account sharing. It's just a practice question, as you get better it comes more naturally.
HAHA! Wait.. so it's possibly against the rules to use two keyboards on the same client on the same PC. Heh, sounds like CCP! I'm sure your going to pick up that tank/cap/target management (your currently level is awesome btw) but still will be a fun take to see two people try to manage one big ship with open mic on a fight like that... Thanks for the upload!
Videos like this one really make me wish I was good with a weapon type that doesn't chug cap... I love me some space shot guns, but they are thirsty devils.
Are you US TZ and what times do you get on usually?
Lasker, have you ever thought about making a guide for solo HAW dread roaming?
I have actually thought about it, although I have nothing written.
Wow that was impressive.
Thank you!
Hi, can you do Navy issue Phoenix?
Wouldn't overheating the shield hardener be ideal in this situation?
if you could fit smartbomb there.......... ;( XDDDDD nice tanking and fight
Ashame this fit is now dead. Epic vid.
We share the good taste of the music, need a corp of ppl who like good music
♥ keep up the good work ♥
From niki ^^
another great show
great fight man ./ whats the music in the beginning. wish i can do this one day
Thank you very much. If you keep working towards it, you absolutely can do it some day. Added the music to the description of the video.
Lasker Emanuel thanks for the encouragement . I saw your older videos with nag rev and Phoenix . So out of curiosity , which one do you think is he best HAW platform ? I absolutely love rev’s look but it seems nag is better with its better tracking and called guns?
Достойно!
why would you not neut target the schimi's thats the first things i would have tried to volley off the field good vid tho but maybe a break down of isk killed / lost ?
Any video where there's a dread vs PL is a good video in my opinion! Keep up the good work!!!
I just can't do these kind of fights, can't micromanage everything like you do, do you stream at all ?
It takes a bunch of time, I have something between 2 and 3 thousand frigate fights in lowsec when I was trying to learn to not panic, manage mods, heat etc. When I first started doing HAW dreads I was much worse, you can build up over time and improve. I have never streamed, but it's on the list of things I want to try (although to be honest, I don't really have the mental cycles to spare to talk about the fight while it's happening, at least not yet).
You had way to much fun
Did you destroy more than you lost in isk? I dont really know the cost of things
I did not, this was a fun fight, but it was bad from an ISK efficiency standpoint, something like 1.2 killed to 4ish lost.
Это. Просто. Ахренительно.
Glad you enjoyed!
in the list you see at least 2 tornados and 2 ferox and there is also a battleship. Those tornados were railing on you for the entire time unbothered. Tried to see their damage numbers, but no luck.
That corp seem to have used some odd fits, at least 2 people had torpedo launchers of all things on their purifiers lol
Excellent Fight, you have nerves!!
Shit you did not have Smarties against the drones fittet :) ... but hey, who cares, Goooood Job dude
GG
Greetings from Russia 07
Found ur videos wile searching for my future Phoenix builds and...that was awesome *_*
That was a lot of drones :0 Perhaps get some smartbombs maybe :)
I kinda want to see an alternative reality where you fitted a smartbomb
I think you'd love the new navy phoenix
Yeah? I keep meaning to come back and at least look at the new dreads, what's good about it?