A quick snap of the throttle could have easily kicked out the rear of the car and sent him over the curb. Our test driver doesn’t seem like someone familiar with driving something like that. The owner was pretty brave to let him idle it to the end of the block.
I was at a Ford dealership a while back to buy some parts and I happened to start talking with the person at the parts counter about the Model T. She told me that they still have all the technical documentation and parts listings for the Model T on microfiche right at the dealership and that if someone brings one in for service they can still work on it.
It was extremely disappointing that they didn't let Jason even breathe on the throttle of that thing. I understand why because it's so valuable, but Jason is a fairly sensible guy who wouldn't do anything to come close to hurting it. Sure that 15 seconds may have been a cool experience for him driving it, but it just really didn't translate to us the viewer.
@@tedfort1698 srock they jad a Basic coolig system without a Pump, so the only thing circulating the Water through the Engine is it getting hot, going up into the Radiator, then going back down while cooling of and the whole thing starts again
@@aaaabababa I'm familiar with the thermosiphon on a stock T. I was referring to the T-Bucket, which being built as a show/drag car, I don't think had provisions for cooling at all. Hence why he only drove it briefly.
It's exactly like a tractor of the time, apart from the odd transmission. Farmers might have liked that odd transmission, seeing how these early Fords saw a lot of work in fields.
Lord Smuggington. Henry Ford wanted to build a farm to market car/truck to help liberate countryfolk from their home counties. He did not really approve of cityboys buying cars, since there were trolleys. cabs and trains for them to get around. However Ford did happily sell them to city slickers $$$$. Dodge Bros that designed his motor put a Cadillac style modern gearbox on their cars. I think the Cadillac was the first car with the modern three pedals.
That model T was a 43 year old car when that hot rod was made. that would be the equivalent to restomodding something from the early Malaise era in terms of age.
Keith Stengel. Korea maybe. If WWII then he kept it for many years after his service. Still a hero. My late dad and my late father in law were both in WWII. Dad drove a model T truck delivering newspapers to vendors in 39-41 in Mexia, Texas
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for making this detailed story of the Model T and it's history and operation. At 5:13 it was so funny to see the cameraman standing up in the car, sticking out of the sunroof!
I’m 27 and I have a LaSalle from 1939 and it’s a culture shock but even still- I have automatic choke, high idle, automatic advance, vacuum assisted 3 speed on the column and synchronized 2-3 gears....and the headlights have a sealed beam 3 setting brights- and it’s only 10 years away from cars that drove like model Ts without even having wipers Edit: LaSalle transmissions, I get why hot rod guys wanted them
Jason's gotta do more of these over on his new site. Being on the west coast for Pebble Beach and having special (exclusive?) access to the Galpin collection, now would be a good time.
Before 2nd World War in Poland there was a separate drivers license category just for Model T (because of how unconventionally it operates). Other drivers in their regular cars with crashboxes were sometimes mocking Model T drivers asking: "Are you a (real) driver or just Ford driver, Sir?"
Model T is kind of tricky to get used to, indeed, but centre throttle (like in old Italian racecars) is surprisingly easy to get used to. I'm sort of amazed that didn't stick, especially in racing (which used dogleg firsts well into the 80's, e.g.).
As a owner of a 1927 model T, u did some things wrong. U should have gone into high gear as soon as possible. That means more air threw the radiator to keep it cool. Plus you failed to inform the newbies that Model Ts had 4 coils one for each cylinder and no distribute cap. All modern cars now have coil packs that is one coil for each cylinder, just like the model T had. So cars and trucks now work the same way a model T did from 09 to 27 one coil for each spark plug
What really amazes me is that the Model T uses planet and sun gears in the transmission that are controlled with friction bands just like a modern automatic transmission.
As I watch your videos, my respect for you, Jason, keeps growing. In this video, my respect for you has leapt significantly. You are very articulate, and you exhibit a lot of relatable insight. I have heard many first hand stories about owning and driving the T-Model, and yes you get it. Only one major thing I remember from those drivers; when in motion--knowing how shitty the brakes are--one would always keep an eye out for plausible "landing places" should the inevitable brake failure occur.
You've driven way more modern cars than the original Ford T that are way way more scary. Actually an impressive thing. I am wondering though, the spark advancer; Why does it have to be changed? On modern cars it's fixed, was there no way of synchronizing it back then?
starting from the 30's we started to devellop dynamic advance distributors but the first cars ( and motorbikes ! ) had a manual ignition advancer , as for why we need it, there are actually several reasons, ideally you'd want the spark to happen right when the cylinder reaches it's higher point, but that doesn't account for the time the gas mixture spends filling the cylinder, and then igniting, so you need to advance the spark, by how much you need to advance it depends on the engine speed (changing gas velocity) , temperature, and engine load, among other things .... a wrong advance setting can cause overheating and destroy an engine
@@nickiebanchou I would love working with this though, I like 'absolute control' over what a car is doing. I get that it's not for most people but give me a manual clutch and unsynchronized gearbox any day of the week :D.
@@rollingtroll that's just unefficient busywork though , having to change the advance yourself with every single acceleration and deceleration, ugh, how much attention does it give you left to watch the road? :P
Hey I like old mechanical cars as well, but unsynchronized gearboxes and manual ignition timing? No thank you, I'm happy with a manual choke, that's enough to diddle around with for my tastes.
My Grandfather bought a brand new Model T not long after they were introduced. When my Grandmother tried to drive it the first tune she ran into a tree and broke her arm, she never attempted to drive again, she got to 85 and only drove a car one time.
The throttle kinda a carry over from tractors but useful for starting, the spark advance/regard was also for starting, geesh maybe read up before you "show" how things work.
Driving the original one was way more interesting than idling the hot rod 200 feet. If they want a display vehicle, why even put a clutch and stuff in it? Just park it on a pedestal and fire it up during tours. That was stupid. Yeah, it's valuable, fast, and probably really hairy, but I would think a quarter throttle and at least one gear change would surely be within just about anyone's ability not to screw up.
In recent years, there have been several attempts to re-write history and claim that Ford's Model T was not designed to run on ethanol/alcohol. Attempts have also been made to re-write history to say that John Rockefeller did not use Prohibition to shut down the alcohol fuel industry. I just published a thorough review and analysis of Ford's intentions for the Model T, as well as an eye opening look at what I believe John Rockefeller intended to do. The story is called: Yes, Tin Lizzie Was An Alcoholic You can find it at www.theautochannel.com/news/2019/04/20/660939-yes-tin-lizzie-was-alcoholic.html .
Showing the bucket T was a massive waste of time. Just sell barbies dream hot rod if you’re not gonna open it up once in awhile. Kinda defeats the purpose if you’re only going to idle it.
agreed. they should have used their insured driver if they couldn't justify it for jason. watching him idle it along the street was boring and pointless.
"on this episode of Jason idles around the block"
That's like 24 hours of LeMans when you're in a model T
A quick snap of the throttle could have easily kicked out the rear of the car and sent him over the curb. Our test driver doesn’t seem like someone familiar with driving something like that. The owner was pretty brave to let him idle it to the end of the block.
AngryRed Banjo you can drift in a model T?
shut your face! - Lol, it would be hard to do in that first one, but that second one? It’s gonna have traction problems even with slicks.
I was at a Ford dealership a while back to buy some parts and I happened to start talking with the person at the parts counter about the Model T. She told me that they still have all the technical documentation and parts listings for the Model T on microfiche right at the dealership and that if someone brings one in for service they can still work on it.
It was extremely disappointing that they didn't let Jason even breathe on the throttle of that thing. I understand why because it's so valuable, but Jason is a fairly sensible guy who wouldn't do anything to come close to hurting it. Sure that 15 seconds may have been a cool experience for him driving it, but it just really didn't translate to us the viewer.
I don't believe it has a cooling system, so... whatever happened likely needed to happen within 45 seconds.
Idling around town actually can be worse on a model t
He should have just been given a ride. Pathetic. The opposite of a Jay Leno ride.
@@tedfort1698 srock they jad a Basic coolig system without a Pump, so the only thing circulating the Water through the Engine is it getting hot, going up into the Radiator, then going back down while cooling of and the whole thing starts again
@@aaaabababa I'm familiar with the thermosiphon on a stock T. I was referring to the T-Bucket, which being built as a show/drag car, I don't think had provisions for cooling at all. Hence why he only drove it briefly.
It's exactly like a tractor of the time, apart from the odd transmission. Farmers might have liked that odd transmission, seeing how these early Fords saw a lot of work in fields.
Lord Smuggington. Henry Ford wanted to build a farm to market car/truck to help liberate countryfolk from their home counties. He did not really approve of cityboys buying cars, since there were trolleys. cabs and trains for them to get around. However Ford did happily sell them to city slickers $$$$. Dodge Bros that designed his motor put a Cadillac style modern gearbox on their cars. I think the Cadillac was the first car with the modern three pedals.
I was thinking the same thing, not even that old of tractors either.
power-to-weight ratios:
bucket = 1350 hp/ton
bugatti = 500 hp/ton
yeah probably just a little better
Yeah bugattis are heavy cars, kind of a shitty comparison for power to weight ratios
That model T was a 43 year old car when that hot rod was made. that would be the equivalent to restomodding something from the early Malaise era in terms of age.
"...the early Malaise era..." Hahah. Well put.
@@Mcbunaen Proton Cars???
They should hot-rod that brown Malaise coupe at the end.
Lmfao the very last part about psychedelics was funny as hell. Let's do shrooms Jacob! Haha
Jason have you ever considered striking out and showing cars and perhaps pointing out their quirks and/of features?
Doug DeJason
When you get in a Motorcycle Mindset, the Muscle Memory actually works a lot better. It's still weird, but not nearly as much.
that "recreation" aint never seen 800hp,, not once.. and you couldn't sell it for 40k to save your life..
My grandpas first car was was a model t pickup that thing run really well but he sold it in 52 when he got back from ww2
Keith Stengel. Korea maybe. If WWII then he kept it for many years after his service. Still a hero. My late dad and my late father in law were both in WWII. Dad drove a model T truck delivering newspapers to vendors in 39-41 in Mexia, Texas
@@STho205 sweet story
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for making this detailed story of the Model T and it's history and operation.
At 5:13 it was so funny to see the cameraman standing up in the car, sticking out of the sunroof!
I’m 27 and I have a LaSalle from 1939 and it’s a culture shock but even still- I have automatic choke, high idle, automatic advance, vacuum assisted 3 speed on the column and synchronized 2-3 gears....and the headlights have a sealed beam 3 setting brights- and it’s only 10 years away from cars that drove like model Ts without even having wipers
Edit: LaSalle transmissions, I get why hot rod guys wanted them
LaSalles are gorgeous better looking than there big brother Cadillac if you ask me
Jason's gotta do more of these over on his new site. Being on the west coast for Pebble Beach and having special (exclusive?) access to the Galpin collection, now would be a good time.
Before 2nd World War in Poland there was a separate drivers license category just for Model T (because of how unconventionally it operates). Other drivers in their regular cars with crashboxes were sometimes mocking Model T drivers asking: "Are you a (real) driver or just Ford driver, Sir?"
The controls seem kind of like a tractor.
Ride on lawn mower
@Immoral Immortal That's what I meant. A lawn tractor/riding mower :P
I never thought about it like that
Model T is kind of tricky to get used to, indeed, but centre throttle (like in old Italian racecars) is surprisingly easy to get used to. I'm sort of amazed that didn't stick, especially in racing (which used dogleg firsts well into the 80's, e.g.).
As a owner of a 1927 model T, u did some things wrong. U should have gone into high gear as soon as possible. That means more air threw the radiator to keep it cool. Plus you failed to inform the newbies that Model Ts had 4 coils one for each cylinder and no distribute cap. All modern cars now have coil packs that is one coil for each cylinder, just like the model T had. So cars and trucks now work the same way a model T did from 09 to 27 one coil for each spark plug
What really amazes me is that the Model T uses planet and sun gears in the transmission that are controlled with friction bands just like a modern automatic transmission.
Another car that Rat Fink could drive the hell out of.
As I watch your videos, my respect for you, Jason, keeps growing. In this video, my respect for you has leapt significantly. You are very articulate, and you exhibit a lot of relatable insight. I have heard many first hand stories about owning and driving the T-Model, and yes you get it. Only one major thing I remember from those drivers; when in motion--knowing how shitty the brakes are--one would always keep an eye out for plausible "landing places" should the inevitable brake failure occur.
You've driven way more modern cars than the original Ford T that are way way more scary. Actually an impressive thing.
I am wondering though, the spark advancer; Why does it have to be changed? On modern cars it's fixed, was there no way of synchronizing it back then?
starting from the 30's we started to devellop dynamic advance distributors but the first cars ( and motorbikes ! ) had a manual ignition advancer ,
as for why we need it, there are actually several reasons, ideally you'd want the spark to happen right when the cylinder reaches it's higher point, but that doesn't account for the time the gas mixture spends filling the cylinder, and then igniting, so you need to advance the spark,
by how much you need to advance it depends on the engine speed (changing gas velocity) , temperature, and engine load, among other things ....
a wrong advance setting can cause overheating and destroy an engine
@@nickiebanchou I would love working with this though, I like 'absolute control' over what a car is doing. I get that it's not for most people but give me a manual clutch and unsynchronized gearbox any day of the week :D.
@@rollingtroll that's just unefficient busywork though , having to change the advance yourself with every single acceleration and deceleration, ugh, how much attention does it give you left to watch the road? :P
Hey I like old mechanical cars as well, but unsynchronized gearboxes and manual ignition timing? No thank you, I'm happy with a manual choke, that's enough to diddle around with for my tastes.
I was linked here from the VW camper video with a promise that this was about importing cars from europe.
Still better than a 2020 Silverado
"You're high as hell" -Jason Torchinsky. Words to live by... Why is this man driving while high?
My Grandfather bought a brand new Model T not long after they were introduced. When my Grandmother tried to drive it the first tune she ran into a tree and broke her arm, she never attempted to drive again, she got to 85 and only drove a car one time.
The last time I had an odd experience with a car when I had discovered that Renault still place the signal on a turning indicator lever.
As opposed to what?
@@BenVanAmburg at least to a normal signal position (on a steering wheel)
Man I'm out of touch. Only Renaults I know are the R4 and R5, and the only quirky thing on both of those are the really terrifying gearboxes.
2017 Duster for sure :)
@@OlegOlegovich6 never even seen that, but i have never seen a renault irl so idk how they do things
You should have mentioned the electric parts and water storage. and the price. Generally a good video. I've subscribed.
The car that defined America in the beginning of the 20th century.
A 461ci engine with a 4-71 blower making 800hp? Call me skeptical.
Wasn't that kind of a stereotype in old cartoons that your car would overheat from nothing?
That hot rod costs more than you? I would rather buy a Jason Torchinsky than a demented Ford Model T on steroids.
The throttle kinda a carry over from tractors but useful for starting, the spark advance/regard was also for starting, geesh maybe read up before you "show" how things work.
so, It's basically my lawn mower.
So would even be possible to open up the hot rod and live to tell the tale? looks a bit overpowered for the aerodynamics.
Assuming that all Jason Drives videos will be at GAS for most of 2019 then?
Driving the original one was way more interesting than idling the hot rod 200 feet. If they want a display vehicle, why even put a clutch and stuff in it? Just park it on a pedestal and fire it up during tours. That was stupid. Yeah, it's valuable, fast, and probably really hairy, but I would think a quarter throttle and at least one gear change would surely be within just about anyone's ability not to screw up.
No roof? When I drive a car without a roof it always start to rain :(
That sure looks like Jay Leno's garage, is it?
I want one !!!!
Speed bumps were designed with these cars in mind.
That must be really awkward to drive.
never a fan of those "Hot Rods" if i had the money i'd restore model t to stock
cool car still greener than a Tesla
They get like 30-40mpg so T's actually get damn good mileage.
Greatest Ever plus they can run on moonshine
More videos ...... More videos please
How they gonna let you drive that and tell you not to touch the throttle? That's like flirting with a unich.
If you're scared enough, you will listen.
*eunuch
In recent years, there have been several attempts to re-write history and claim that Ford's Model T was not designed to run on ethanol/alcohol. Attempts have also been made to re-write history to say that John Rockefeller did not use Prohibition to shut down the alcohol fuel industry.
I just published a thorough review and analysis of Ford's intentions for the Model T, as well as an eye opening look at what I believe John Rockefeller intended to do.
The story is called: Yes, Tin Lizzie Was An Alcoholic
You can find it at www.theautochannel.com/news/2019/04/20/660939-yes-tin-lizzie-was-alcoholic.html .
У моего деда такой в гараже)
Lol you want to see ridiculous? Look up bad daddy braddys death bucket on hoonigan channel!
Showing the bucket T was a massive waste of time. Just sell barbies dream hot rod if you’re not gonna open it up once in awhile. Kinda defeats the purpose if you’re only going to idle it.
agreed. they should have used their insured driver if they couldn't justify it for jason. watching him idle it along the street was boring and pointless.
Model T was the first donk
3rd
I don't understand where you guys get the budget for your videos. Is this whole channel actually just a money laundering scheme?
There are people out there who think the Model T was the first American car? Christ