The Final Review of Forza Horizon 4

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 12. 10. 2021
  • This video was a long time in the making, but now, as Horizon 4 winds down into it's twilight years, and Horizon 5 nears release, I figure it's finally time give my final "exit review" of Forza Horizon 4.
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  • @HokiHoshi
    @HokiHoshi  Pƙed 2 lety +756

    Hi all! So, this project was something new for me and a real labor of love that took the past few months to complete. Although it does cover some of the more negative aspects of Horizon 4, I hope it doesn't come off as too harsh. I absolutely adore this game and this review is hopefully a good testament to that. Also - because it did take months to finish, there are some small script inconsistencies (i.e. things I didn't know about H5 that I do know now) as well as some audio differences as it was recorded over a few days. Either way, I hope that doesn't distract from the video as a whole. Thanks everyone ❀

    • @The007JiMHD
      @The007JiMHD Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Impressive work. You can see this video took a lot of time and effort to do.

    • @rio8677
      @rio8677 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Awsome Job, thanks

    • @843Reboot
      @843Reboot Pƙed 2 lety +6

      this is probably the best FH review on the internet rn. good job, man.

    • @ChugGG
      @ChugGG Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@rio8677 fr

    • @ChugGG
      @ChugGG Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Amazing work man, keep it up!

  • @thatkidcolin1645
    @thatkidcolin1645 Pƙed 2 lety +1804

    Greatest quote ever “like a mullet, Motorsport in the front, horizon in the back”

    • @thatfastchevy
      @thatfastchevy Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Yes!

    • @ToraVanguard2004
      @ToraVanguard2004 Pƙed 2 lety +54

      And like a mullet, the back contains a lot more than the front.

    • @geoumy5911
      @geoumy5911 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Legit

    • @emiliodiaz3927
      @emiliodiaz3927 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Needs.to.be on the back of every horizon game box

    • @morky3673
      @morky3673 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@ToraVanguard2004 havent played forzas since horizon 2 was the latest but othet than open world doesnt motorsport have way more? I remember being super dissapointed with h2 customization in comparison to motorsport 5 and 6.

  • @chasep05
    @chasep05 Pƙed 2 lety +920

    this was an epic game now with fh5 around the corner we have to say goodbye. I will never forget fh4 it was my first horizon game and I have a lot of good memories of it.

    • @sohailkhan-in4tt
      @sohailkhan-in4tt Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Same bro fh4 is my first game in forza series I will never forget fh4

    • @mayankanand6733
      @mayankanand6733 Pƙed 2 lety +19

      hopefully i can say the same about fh5 in the future when fh6 comes out, since it will be my first horizon game XD lets hope its a good one

    • @Jamesupdates
      @Jamesupdates Pƙed 2 lety

      So true

    • @Snowy-oq4ur
      @Snowy-oq4ur Pƙed 2 lety +26

      Goodbye?!?!?! I just got the game 4 months ago!

    • @muneharthur7546
      @muneharthur7546 Pƙed 2 lety +21

      My first horizon was 2 and IMO it was absolutely the best

  • @brawler715
    @brawler715 Pƙed 2 lety +1789

    As much as I don’t like Forza Horizon 4’s poorly implemented seasons and car sounds,the formers concept itself sounds amazing.And I had fun playing this game nonetheless.

    • @chesternimitz8357
      @chesternimitz8357 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      did u know they made the sounds on A COMPUTER it us pretty close

    • @kake52
      @kake52 Pƙed 2 lety +64

      @@chesternimitz8357 many sounds in the game suck

    • @basithph8958
      @basithph8958 Pƙed 2 lety +58

      The customization was
 decent
      The car list, environment, physics, visuals are definitely the highlights of the game but still the game overall is the weakest in the series imo

    • @Eddiee757
      @Eddiee757 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@chesternimitz8357 no

    • @takumijager2372
      @takumijager2372 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@basithph8958 yeah

  • @IITheGoodLifeII
    @IITheGoodLifeII Pƙed 2 lety +443

    Now that FH5 is out, I can confidently say this: FH4 intro sequence > FH5 intro sequence. I will never forget the introduction to each season and racing to the finish line in the Senna.

    • @fe567
      @fe567 Pƙed 2 lety +29

      Different and not comparable. Both intro is great

    • @niko8047
      @niko8047 Pƙed 2 lety +60

      Im gonna be honest, i liked the fifth one better. Literally Got goosebumps dribling into the final festival!

    • @juicebocx4217
      @juicebocx4217 Pƙed 2 lety +20

      @@niko8047 yeah FH5 intro is way better

    • @narlynarwhals27
      @narlynarwhals27 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      was fh4 your first game?

    • @wikz8480
      @wikz8480 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      5 intro shits on 4😂

  • @NickName183
    @NickName183 Pƙed 2 lety +261

    Timestamps
    0:00 Intro
    4:36 Campaign
    8:51 Horizon Stories & Businesses
    10:35 Cars (Roster/Handling/Livery/Upgrades & Tuning)
    31:24 Online
    43:50 Map Design & Soundtrack
    50:30 Post-Launch Support

    • @iceberg4736
      @iceberg4736 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      ^ this should be pinned alongside Hoki's comment. Highly useful.

    • @UnboxRacing
      @UnboxRacing Pƙed rokem

      Where is the bit on steering wheel support and Hoki's thoughts on it?

    • @UnboxRacing
      @UnboxRacing Pƙed rokem

      It's 18:30. Just found it by luck.

    • @John.Christopher
      @John.Christopher Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      Thank you

  • @NickName183
    @NickName183 Pƙed 2 lety +109

    I only remember that the introductory girl is named Keira because she was a returning character from FH3

  • @missedmurphy
    @missedmurphy Pƙed 2 lety +139

    Whether it was good or bad, the fact they kept it alive for so long is what really kept me coming back. Every week there was something new to obtain. The fact they were able to do that AND spend more time on the next Horizon is what I believe really counts

    • @Majin_Fuu
      @Majin_Fuu Pƙed 2 lety +6

      I found that impressive too. Even when I started getting bored of FH4 there was almost always something new to play with whenever I decided to log on.
      I'm also pleasantly surprised with Mexico. I was admittedly one of the "I want Japan!" types. Other than issues with the drivatar difficulty and online connection at times, I see plenty of life in FH5

    • @missedmurphy
      @missedmurphy Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@Majin_Fuu Mexico makes the most sense for them in a lot of ways. It's basically the opposite of flat ol' England. However, Japan was considered for both FH4 and FH5. So the likelihood of it being the next one is quite high for many reasons. One being their releasing a whole new game engine for FH6 and what better way to show off your shiny new graphics than with the place everyone has been begging for. Not only that, but leaked DLC for FH5 shows one of the DLC's is going to be set in a city. And it's common knowledge DLC for Horizon games are a test bed for the next game to come. Lastly, in the game files for FH5 is the Ferrari J50 which was made specifically for Japan. So there's a lot of signs showing that your wish might come true sooner than later

    • @Majin_Fuu
      @Majin_Fuu Pƙed 2 lety

      @@missedmurphy that's awesome news. Horizon has always been my "chill when not sim racing" kind of game so I'm not likely to complain about much. I see the community yearning for Japan is strong enough so I imagine it's only a matter of time.

  • @SKUTE.
    @SKUTE. Pƙed 2 lety +235

    One thing about the story in the Horizon franchise I want to talk about, is that in Horizon 1 and 2 you as the player were participants in the festival, while from Horizon 3 onwards you are the one who runs and controls it. My problem with this is that the story motivation in 1 and 2 was to start as a nobody and eventually become the best driver at the festival, but now you already are a famous driver.
    Looking back I really missed that part of the Horizon games, the motivation to wanting to be the best, the rival characters who teased you along the way, why care about that when I run the whole thing? To me it feels like that meme of Obama giving a medal to himself lmao.
    Horizon 1 did story the best, the characters are simple, but believable, and that introductory race in Horizon 1 is just so good; barely making it in to the festival, and meeting the current Horizon champion on the way there! I really resonated with what you said about Horizon 1's characters being so much more memorable then what we have now and I hope we can at least see more like them in Horizon 5.
    This was kinda rambly, but I just got really excited seeing someone actually bringing up the non-existent story in Horizon 4 and why its a shame compared to what we got in previous titles.

    • @NickName183
      @NickName183 Pƙed 2 lety +20

      Horizon 4 does this weird blend of starting you out as this nobody and then as you progress you get all the features from Horizon 3. And it doesn't work.
      At least Horizon 3 was like "You're the boss" and ran with it, with the festival upgrading, the discounting cars, the blueprint feature etc.
      But because they were all successful features, they couldn't omit them from Horizon 4 even if it was counter-intuitive to the "story" they were trying to tell.

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Pƙed 2 lety

      Competition isnt inclusion. This is the narrative equivalent of giving everyone participation medals. Its not that they dont expect you to fail races (Though that usually doesnt come with any penalty towards completion anyway, I actually dont know what happens when you dont come in first on race nodes) But its that the idea that the premise of the game is to be aggressive and compete is either "toxic" or not inclusive enough. You can tell by how they arranged even competitive multiplayer. They dont let you race free for all. No, everyone is in a team, And the weakest link leads the charge. And basically gets the same ranking and rate as the best. Post Horizon 2 these have been the least competitive games ive ever played. In fact. Hotwheels is better for a challenge and competition than Horizon.

    • @AUGSpeed42
      @AUGSpeed42 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      @@117johnpar You can race free for all now. Have been able to for 2 years now, actually. See 31:26, third card. This is also in the competitive section. You obviously haven't played for a long while. I can understand their wish to keep toxicity out of the community, though. They went about it in a silly way, but I would rather not have sweaty try-hards yelling at me for passing them every time I win an online race. It should be a competition, but a friendly one. People lose, and some people win. But everyone learns from the mistakes they made, and improves their skills over time. And, if you're with friends, then the trash-talking should be flowing forth as well. But not with strangers.

    • @TheLightningYu
      @TheLightningYu Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Possible a unpopular Opinion, but i found the whole concept of the Horizon Series, if it comes down to story per se, pretty Boring to begin with. I mean it, all the things you point ot as good aspect of the first 2 games, because you start as a nobody didn't have any more impact to me than what they did afterwards, because i found neither the story or characters memorable to begin with. Because the whole Premise of a Musical Festival as a plot device is to begin with absolutely lacking, it's an amazing concept if it comes down to the "Gameplay" aspect and to explain why you can openly race, and it works perfectly for the Series, because i feel like i've to point out, not every Game is meant to be or even should be a story Game, there are also Gameplay-Games, and thanks to lack of interesting story you focus more on the gameplay itself. That's why the "critique" about a Story in a Gameseries like Horizon is kinda weird for me.
      Than again i find it "pretty" hard to pull of interesting Racing-Stories to begin with. Streetracers have a potential due all the Gangster and Illegal "Racing" background which can bring up some interesting topics, but even on that it's hard to pull it off in a longterm, which is why it doesn't surprise me that F&F gets more and more to an Action-Movie than like very first few movies which was focus mostly on cars and racing.

    • @haydenw8691
      @haydenw8691 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      If there's one thing this game needs to lose, it's getting a gold trophy just for finishing an event. They''re just meaningless participation trophies.

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 Pƙed 2 lety +693

    Is the game good? Yes. Was it enjoyable? Definitely yes!
    I have some good moments with this game and really enjoyed it but at the same time I just felt that it was the weakest in the series
    And it just got really boring and missed what really made the Horizon series or even the Motorsport series
    It is a solid game for sure and will be missed but I just can't wait to play FH5 knowing that it's a massive improvement over FH4

    • @greenmario9518
      @greenmario9518 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Yeah, exactly my thoughts

    • @Josiah_Richards
      @Josiah_Richards Pƙed 2 lety +26

      seriously, they crapped the bed, and with h5 they just got a whole new bed instead of just new sheets

    • @mitronzongo
      @mitronzongo Pƙed 2 lety +8

      They need to think about adding driffting avatars that would be a small change but a big upgrade to gameplay. How many games have we seen with ai characters just driting arounding in tandem or solo.

    • @ledxx
      @ledxx Pƙed 2 lety +9

      @@mitronzongo I just want the Ai convoys back tbh

    • @user-qq3ec1ve5q
      @user-qq3ec1ve5q Pƙed 2 lety +4

      The best horizon game to me will always be 2. Three was the one I could never get into and I played a little of four on game pass and then deleted it once I lost interest in it. I am looking forward to getting 5 when it comes out. On game pass of course.

  • @brandonvo9727
    @brandonvo9727 Pƙed 2 lety +132

    “And I’ll see you all in Mexico”
    Man I wasn’t expecting that one!
    Can’t wait for FH5!

    • @nurimcflurry4379
      @nurimcflurry4379 Pƙed 2 lety

      I cant wait too.i just got it on gamepass

    • @teme5529
      @teme5529 Pƙed 2 lety

      lol seems like its broken atm.
      edit: maybe it is patched soon?

    • @Pekoe.
      @Pekoe. Pƙed 2 lety

      @@teme5529 not patched yet

    • @brubeck1
      @brubeck1 Pƙed 2 lety

      FH4 is best one.

  • @kyleokeefe9021
    @kyleokeefe9021 Pƙed 2 lety +192

    Dude i can't imagine how long it took you to make this video. you went so in depth and you probably wrote a 100 page paper for this to read off of. Props to you!

  • @dwdesign2873
    @dwdesign2873 Pƙed 2 lety +83

    Forza horizon 1 was the first game to get me into car culture and enjoying cars as a whole, where I met a large amount of friends both irl, and online. I hold it dearly to my heart

  • @dwdesign2873
    @dwdesign2873 Pƙed 2 lety +87

    something that would be cool to add for leaderboards, is for speed traps, zones danger signs etc. they could add a filter to see leaderboards for car classes like A class, s1 and such. it would give lesser skilled players an easier way to learn to drive and reward them for beating other players the same as if they were in X class. even add a filter for car types like offroad monsters, track racing etc.

  • @sedatefobia
    @sedatefobia Pƙed 2 lety +66

    Fantastic script, holy shit. Seriously, you're a great writer. The creative and enlightening analogies made your point clear, approachable.

  • @ethanbrest2199
    @ethanbrest2199 Pƙed 2 lety +22

    Forza horizon 4 was hated for so long, but the good old "it's good now that the new game is out" is definitely hitting, and for good reason, it was a great game, I loved it with my friends, but in all honesty the best part, was the menu music, I LOVE the conflicting emotions of it, it's just so good, and something about that last game I played on it, just felt off, it wasn't the average fun, it was slow cruising, taking in the scenery, knowing what's soon to come, the garunteed end of its existence as the new games come out, and I'm not ready for it, it's sad to see it go, but everything has a due date, FH4 just sadly hit its due date when many weren't ready, thank you FH4 you did us well.

  • @thex2thaz
    @thex2thaz Pƙed 2 lety +7

    I played Need for Speed Most Wanted (2005) up until a two years ago. Then I tried out FH4. It was halarious to see how incredible the graphics were, sounds and controls.
    The game is meant to just be played when you really feel it. Maybe in the background of your favorite music. That's when i've found the best times. Never forced.

    • @emilkata
      @emilkata Pƙed 2 lety

      You mean, lowering the Horizon music and playing some NFS Most Wanted/Underground tunes? Yes

  • @LocksleyNg
    @LocksleyNg Pƙed 2 lety +54

    This is the closure I need to hear before waving goodbye to this game. The second Horizon series I played that managed to be the one to remember for setting the standards to the world.
    This sets the stage for Horizon 5 and I cannot wait to see everyone there. Thanks Hoki Hoshi for this video.

  • @korewakyouki
    @korewakyouki Pƙed 2 lety +426

    Imma miss this game sooo much once its officially killed off. The amount of time I have spent(1300+ hours) and the experiences gained are priceless. I have gone through 3-4 friend groups on this game and I met some of my closest friends, many of which I still frequently talk to almost everyday. This game also taught me many things about cars, refined my taste, and started to better appreciate them further. This game helped defined who I am and what I want to do in my life because it gave me friendships and a gateway into my favorite hobby. It also gave me an escape and helped distract me from some of the things that plagued my past. The moments spent in this game over the past 3 years are ones that I won't forget. I absolutely loved this game. And I can't wait to see what happens in the next.

    • @thatfastchevy
      @thatfastchevy Pƙed 2 lety +35

      👏👏👏👏👏 see you in Mexico

    • @thatfastchevy
      @thatfastchevy Pƙed 2 lety +15

      I’m going to miss Horizon 4 too

    • @donovanowens8owens
      @donovanowens8owens Pƙed 2 lety +13

      See you in Mexico gang đŸ™đŸŸ

    • @vebsy687
      @vebsy687 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      just like how horizon 3 was so special to me see yall in fh5

    • @haileyk178
      @haileyk178 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      felt that 100%

  • @Vahex4
    @Vahex4 Pƙed 2 lety +110

    This game was amazing. It does however has its problems. The forced seasons (mainly winter), the lackluster car sounds and the weird mess of a campaign were all turn offs. Other than that stuff it was a ton of fun. FH5 looks like its going to blow it out the water though. Driving on the wrong side of the road also bothered me as an American. FH5 fixes all of these issues and I think it will be the best Forza of all time. We shall see though

    • @novathepug6692
      @novathepug6692 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      It looks like it's gonna have another lacking story though

    • @nebe0719
      @nebe0719 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@novathepug6692 nah people say it is a lot better than fh4

    • @georgfranko
      @georgfranko Pƙed 2 lety

      Winter was the best season !

    • @BeanieBiker
      @BeanieBiker Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@georgfranko Winter was a lot of fun no doubt, and really changed the map but having an entire week of it got a little annoying. Definitely looking forward to having some parts snowy and some not in the the Horizon 5 though!

    • @Vahex4
      @Vahex4 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@georgfranko it was fun in short doses. The fact that you couldn’t pick and it was a whole week was annoying. Made all hyper cars pretty much useless

  • @lolmom6839
    @lolmom6839 Pƙed 2 lety +28

    Im gonna watch it all, i’ve just discovered your cannel and its awesome!!!
    I’ve have been playing FH4 this last month and IM IN LOVE.

    • @vatsalparmar5740
      @vatsalparmar5740 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      yeah. FH4 will always be special for me. Helped me cope with depression and introduced me to car culture. It also nailed the uk vibe with the classy Edinburgh to the calm village of Ambelside.

    • @phom29
      @phom29 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I played FH3 and didn't know much about cars, but when I got FH4 that all changed. It gave me all of the knowledge I have, but it's also let me appreciate FH3 more

  • @AshutoshPathak
    @AshutoshPathak Pƙed 2 lety +19

    You've outdone yourself again Hoki. This is the only review FH4 ever needs. Your humble voice is so relaxing that this will be my wind down video to bed, on repeat . Plz do more long scripted videos and plz mirror your twitch streams here as a lot of us dont have twitch on TV.

  • @JustThatTanker
    @JustThatTanker Pƙed 2 lety +87

    Having only ever played FH3 and FH4, I do like 3 more, but FH4 is a very good game. It brought in so many new features that made me stick to the game longer than I thought I would. Sure, the UK felt a bit meh, but it was still fun nonetheless.

    • @femboyspeaking9064
      @femboyspeaking9064 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      You should definitely play 1 and 2!

    • @alexsurh1472
      @alexsurh1472 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I liked 3 better but there was no FOV slider and that really made it less enjoyable than 4

    • @FormulaProg
      @FormulaProg Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Once you’ve played 4 online and got used to driving around without drivertars ruining your game I don’t understand how you can go back


    • @JustThatTanker
      @JustThatTanker Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@FormulaProg thats one of the things I like abt FH4, other than that, the feel of the Horizon Festival wasn't there compared to FH3.

    • @BoredMemer90
      @BoredMemer90 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      ive played all 4 (and will be playing fh5) horizon games and in my opinion the best map is definitely fh3 and the best gameplay overall for me is fh2, fh2 has great physics, decent map, good car sounds, good graphics, and fh3 has a superb map, very good variable car list, decent physics, good dlcs, good car sounds, and so much more, but fh4 has a decent map, okay physics, and a really good car list (as of now i mean), but then it has pretty bad sounds which makes the game less fun for me

  • @thatfastchevy
    @thatfastchevy Pƙed 2 lety +7

    Great job on the post game review! I have spent 3 years in This game and have some great memories. I’ll miss you FH4

  • @hiramjew1523
    @hiramjew1523 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    "I've seen so so many people fall into the trap of buying the fastest car they can right away, modifying it to be even faster and then complaining the handling in the game because they keep spinning out and can't take corners." As someone who just started playing Horizon 4 this was exactly me lol. I bought a Honda NSX 92 as soon as I could. Slapped on all the mods I could think of only to realize the car drove like crap. Luckily I came across your other videos for tuning and now the car handles like a dream! So far the game has been fun and educational for anyone who has even the slightest interest in cars! Thanks for guiding tuning scrubs like me!

  • @xXtroutXx69
    @xXtroutXx69 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Love this review! Also you can tell the love that went into this video. Can’t wait to see your videos for horizon 5!

  • @mikeroeder
    @mikeroeder Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Fantastic work on this summary video. Captures the journey really well! Looking forward to your continuing content with Horizon 5.

  • @Y4ZZERZ
    @Y4ZZERZ Pƙed 2 lety +25

    The blt analogy was actually really good. This was my first title that I have actually gotten into and have sunk 100s of hours into the game and I really enjoyed it. I completely forgot to even think that it needed a story but I don’t personally think that I needed it so much. Hopefully horizon 5 has a great story and I really look forward to play it 😁

  • @WarBird-yt1sp
    @WarBird-yt1sp Pƙed 2 lety +6

    This is an amazing cinematic breakdown of FH4, I could watch this all day. It also doesn’t hurt that you showed me winning a race.

  • @lukee7020
    @lukee7020 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    It's kind of crazy how long this game has been around and how strong it and the community is. I remember freshman year of highschool, being in class eagerly waiting for the streams to start and the awesome new content, getting home and spending all night cruising around. I'm a senior now, and it feels so surreal that my school career is coming to a close. The hundreds of hours I've accumulated in Horizon are honestly some of the best memories I have from any game, and I love that this will always be a sort of time capsule to reflect on and remember my highschool years. This video was a great sendoff, and I'm glad this channel and the community with it share my love for the game almost word for word. It may sound cheesy, but I'll always be grateful for the game that really brought me into the world of cars and made me fall in love with almost every aspect of them

  • @poyayaan
    @poyayaan Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This was such a great watch that kept me entertained all the time, thank you for doing this!

  • @meta1ow
    @meta1ow Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Incredible video, thanks for making it!

  • @JerKKeR
    @JerKKeR Pƙed 2 lety +57

    "Forza Horizon 4 is like a BLT Sandwich without (story) Tomatoes."
    I guess this is why I love this game so much and see it as an all time favorite, I HATE TOMATOES

  • @calebcole8407
    @calebcole8407 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Thanks for the great content. Just recently got horizon 4 and have been fiddling with my 97 skyline gtr trying to help my cornering. Your vids helped a lot but I eventually went back into the upgrade menu and realized I had fitted the drag tires 😂 after fixing that the car performed much more like I had seen from your content lol

  • @petrisoralin2850
    @petrisoralin2850 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Fantastic and detailed video. Great job as always.

  • @jaysoegaard
    @jaysoegaard Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Every time I see another of your videos I love your input and skit. Great mob I'm a fan man now

  • @ayanjayasekara1546
    @ayanjayasekara1546 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Wow, what an absolute masterpiece of a video. Keep up the great work!

  • @EnemenyYT
    @EnemenyYT Pƙed 2 lety +7

    Having only played this game and Horizon 1 (waaaay after it's life cycle), this was the first Forza game i properly sunk my teeth into, and for that it'll always hold a special place in my heart

  • @KurumaDesigns
    @KurumaDesigns Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Amazing review and I agree with everything you said! I just discovered your channel a few days ago and I subbed after the first video I watched, looking forward to more fh5 content!

  • @thythethy9590
    @thythethy9590 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Great Video! You always use good musical choices!

  • @Luc4Val
    @Luc4Val Pƙed 2 lety +5

    i shivered watching this. too good!

  • @piedpiper1172
    @piedpiper1172 Pƙed 2 lety +18

    The extended life of H4 without another release proves the adage: “Familiarity breeds contempt.”

  • @kasenshme6068
    @kasenshme6068 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This review is so good. I just passed 100 Days Played on this game. I love the feeling of collecting the cars. Ur comparison of Forza and a theme park is great. Thanks for the great HOUR video. See you in FH5 with the glorious new sound system.

  • @NearlyGoodGamer
    @NearlyGoodGamer Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Great retrospective well done

  • @mattforthelikes
    @mattforthelikes Pƙed 2 lety +11

    I bought this game late into its lifecycle and boy did I enjoy my short time with it. It got me into sim racing shortly after I bought a Logitech wheel. I simply desired a better racing experience. However, with the launch of Forza Horizon 5 rapidly approaching, I'm considering getting back in. I just have to make sure that there is enough of an experience there that's not racing for it to be worth my time (unless they've magically solved the racing conundrum).

  • @caleb22lr
    @caleb22lr Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I remember binge watching videos of Forza Horizon 4 when it was first released. this brings me back

  • @BxRAW
    @BxRAW Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Such a well written and put together review. Thank you.

  • @justadummy8076
    @justadummy8076 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    FH5 feels like a more complete (but less stable) version of FH4

  • @motopat06
    @motopat06 Pƙed 2 lety +7

    Holy Sheeeeeesh 1 hour great job HokiHoshi 🌅😉👊

  • @ma7mgte
    @ma7mgte Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Wow, an 1hr long vid for this game. You are truly dedicated your craft. Salute sir!

  • @Tac_3403
    @Tac_3403 Pƙed 2 lety

    this is such a great, well put together video. thank you!

  • @deanjurgens1651
    @deanjurgens1651 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    i just realized i have watched this for an hour i didnt even realize! great video!!

  • @mahlonbushby4633
    @mahlonbushby4633 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    What a wonderful review. Really well done.

  • @Adam-ub8yh
    @Adam-ub8yh Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Regardless of what everyone says about this game, I loved it. Could literally just sit doing the same thing over and over and never really got bored of it.

  • @zenkoz3158
    @zenkoz3158 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This is the first video I've seen from you and not even 15 minutes in you've more than earned a subscription. Awesome review, good solutions to the game's issues, ect. You're a rare type of reviewer, instead of whining you offer solutions and includes reasons it may have been better than the opposite choice. Loved this video and look forward to seeing more of them in the future 👍

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Beautiful video! i couldnt say it better man!!

  • @amazingamer360
    @amazingamer360 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    About the “license system” you thought about with fast cars, I once thought the same kind of thing, what if in order to use the faster cars online, you had to prove you could drive it without spinning/losing control, like a sort of test drive?
    Also that idea of FRR being a carefree way to navigate with players from one event to the next without losing positions is a really nice idea. That really should have been the point from the start.

    • @blurryyu
      @blurryyu Pƙed 2 lety

      the liscence system would be kinda dumb, imagine saving up alot of money for a shiny new car and then being told you cant have it cuz u dont know how to drive it, theres no way to learn to drive it without buying it

    • @HokiHoshi
      @HokiHoshi  Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @Blurry There's a few other games that have license systems and that's generally not how it works, in games like TDU and Gran Turismo you can still buy whatever car you want. it's just that the higher class races/championships won't show up until you do the higher class license tests. That's how I would imagine it in Forza. Still having full open world freedom but having to pass some basic driving tests or like hit a certain time on Rivals before you're able to enter S1 and S2 online racing for example.

    • @blurryyu
      @blurryyu Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@HokiHoshi ah okay, thanks for the clearing up

  • @pktrsho6055
    @pktrsho6055 Pƙed 2 lety +7

    Thank you to Hoki Hoshi for teaching me to tune my own cars instead of relying on downloading tunes from other people. And as for FH4, this game will always hold a special place in my heart as the first Forza game I ever played.

  • @Jerry1234999
    @Jerry1234999 Pƙed 2 lety

    Amazing Video! Bring me back a lot of good memories!

  • @samelson9758
    @samelson9758 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I never comment on videos but man this video was phenomenal I watched the whole thing. Keep it up!

  • @harryarmstrong5540
    @harryarmstrong5540 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Amazing video, Thanks for putting in the time to create this masterpiece!
    Horizon 4 will be remembered by many as we grow older together haha ..

  • @carlomendoza6173
    @carlomendoza6173 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Yeah, I remembered looking at all of the CZcams videos, i was so hyped to play Forza Horizon 4, and man...it was the best experience ever, I just begin to play last November 2020 Forza Horizon 4 and it was epic, just what I expected, now that the new horizon is on my homeland, I cannot wait to try it, and hope that this new Forza will have maybe not the same lifetime, but the same support as the 4th...

  • @mantaspolensa7143
    @mantaspolensa7143 Pƙed 2 lety

    I've never had an hour go by so quickly, great video ♄

  • @biglick92
    @biglick92 Pƙed 2 lety

    Excellent video, You really nailed everything mate.

  • @milkymike122
    @milkymike122 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    I started playing forza horizon 1 and fell in love with it 8 years ago, deep down I know that this series will become the best racing series ever, I loved the concept, I loved the system, I loved the way it’s just pure fun without any limitations whatsoever. And I am glad that play ground just keeps making this series better and better. It may not be the most realistic racing game, but it’s damn near perfect as a racing game in my opinion.

  • @ReeceSpencer
    @ReeceSpencer Pƙed 2 lety +5

    You're absolutely right about the online classes in online adventure being too high. I much preferred Horizon 3's method of voting on the next round and C and even D class being thrown in the mix too. For me the sweet spot is B and A class.

  • @Breyzipp
    @Breyzipp Pƙed 2 lety

    Man I just want to show some appreciation for this incredible video. Normally I only watch review videos for games I’m interested in and haven’t played yet. Having sunken hundreds, if not a thousand hours into FH4 myself and eagerly waiting for FH5, this is the perfect timing to look back on FH4 and what an incredible 3 years it has been. I also have tremendous appreciation for PlayGround games and all the free content updates and support they have given this game over those years. If you compare it to the lacklustre support for games like Need for Speed Heat, that appreciation only gets stronger.
    You video is one long love essay to the game and to the studio, incredibly well montaged. You also have the perfect calm voice voice for a video like this. For the 1 hour long length, it was not bored even a second. Incredible job! 👍

  • @skynetintex5878
    @skynetintex5878 Pƙed 2 lety

    Truely an excellent review. Top job @HokiHoshi.

  • @cenkhanyaloglu4480
    @cenkhanyaloglu4480 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I learned to drive with a controller thanks to this game. I had lots of fun solo and with friends. The worst part for me, I had to prematurely stop playing this game after a month because of the connection issues. After every race me and my friends were waiting around 10 minutes to reconnect to the server and start another race.
    Anyways, really great video, the music in the end made me almost cry to a game I enjoyed immensely only for a month.
    By the way, I still listen to hospital radio regularly :)

  • @elvoandro7087
    @elvoandro7087 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Thank you, and thanks for everything you did for this community. ❀

  • @IShotMyTeam
    @IShotMyTeam Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Very good review of Horizon 4! I can't wait to see what you have to say about Horizon 5 in a few years.

  • @ChugGG
    @ChugGG Pƙed 2 lety

    What a great game. And what an aamazing video. keep it up man i love long, thought out content

  • @donjezza
    @donjezza Pƙed 2 lety +9

    What a masterpiece magnum opus of a video! It's such a testament to the quality of the game that we all have different aspects we love, I have only played eliminator once but spent countless hours in lego valley. This is a real strength you can make the game about what you personally enjoy and mostly ignore what you don't.
    My biggest gripe with FH3 was people being in the rain without umbrellas and similarly the biggest issue in FH4 is people wearing t-shirts in the snow. I'm going to try eliminator for the 2nd time before FH5 comes out, I don't know why I ignored it for so long? I also don't see the reason why you dislike the lego expansion, is it just because you wanted it to be something else? It has an oval track! we don't even need to turn right anymore!

  • @AdamsApples
    @AdamsApples Pƙed 2 lety +9

    Never heard such a good BLT analogy. Really hit the nail on what I felt was missing after hours of free roaming!

    • @joachimhavefaith6310
      @joachimhavefaith6310 Pƙed 2 lety

      I completely disagreed with that point. For me story is just an annoyance in racing games. I just want to race :)
      Even more so when the cutscenes are not skipable like in NFS

  • @drift7rs
    @drift7rs Pƙed 2 lety +1

    that transit van livery was hilarious haha, great video that sums up FH4's lifespan very well!

  • @tametalks6102
    @tametalks6102 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this vid, I've been playing this franchise since horizon 2 and I really really got into horizon 4 religiously until about a week before the release of 5. This video is well written,well edited and well explored. You have got a new subscriber and I will definitely keep watching your content. CHVRCHES is one of my favorite bands, damn shame there not in 5

  • @rvladimiro
    @rvladimiro Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I think this was the first time I watched an hour long video on CZcams and it was totally worth it. FH4 means a lot to me. It was the game that made me want to play racing games. It was the game that made me purchase a wheel. It was the game I spent hours teaching my 13yo daughter what it is to drive. It was the game that got me to try F1 2020, which then hooked me on actual F1. It was the game that I learned what a racing is and a driveline too, that made me play Forza Motorsport, that led me to find some amazing online content including your channel. Speaking of which, it was a video from you that defined what I do in Horizon: I collect and tune cars. Yep, that's on you! See you in FH5 but I'll never forget FH4.

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This has to be the longest review i ever watched, well done.

  • @positivevibegaming2011
    @positivevibegaming2011 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great video Hoki

  • @JurisKankalis
    @JurisKankalis Pƙed rokem

    Amazing, amazing summary of the game. Well done. Sometimes older titles aren't lagging behind the new ones, quite on the contrary (I'm still playing Porsche Unleashed in 2022). Keep the videos coming, greetings from Latvia.

  • @soysaucecars7880
    @soysaucecars7880 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    0:01 Finally a person that uses Haltija from Etherwood!

  • @ghostwire9392
    @ghostwire9392 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    with horizon 5 coming out in 3 days, this video helped me realize all the effort it took playground to keep us satisfied with the game while working in horizon 5 which is super promising. i’m not gonna lie i teared up a hit at the end thinking of all the memories i have of this game, i remember not having the money to buy it at launch so my best friend bought it for me because we shared the same passion for cars and forza since motorsport 5. racing through the highways with all kinds of cars, finally getting the supra and the evo. final words: Forza Horizon 4 was the most memorable game in a while coming second to my most memorable game GTA 5 story.

  • @atago5921
    @atago5921 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This video was crafted masterfully, definitely worth the hour long watch time. Id hope its not rude of me to hope for one of these for Horizon 5 when that reaches its end.

  • @joshuawisniewski738
    @joshuawisniewski738 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    As a late incoming horizon 4 player. Learning from your videos and learning from your knowledge of how to tune cars really primed me for horizon 5. I’m already having a blast!

  • @pancake8853
    @pancake8853 Pƙed 2 lety +48

    Even though many people (including me) will consider this game the weakest in the series, we'll still miss it for the good times it brought us.

    • @lucasvonheiz1310
      @lucasvonheiz1310 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      The weakest?

    • @lFrontal
      @lFrontal Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@lucasvonheiz1310 The previous 3 just had a much better atmosphere imo. Better maps and much better car sounds. For example the M4 has the exact same sound file as the Nissan GTR lol. Or the Huayra sounds the same as the Zonda etc..

    • @lFrontal
      @lFrontal Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @Dev King I didn't play FH1 that much but it's a fan favorite. 4 is technically the better game but 1 had the vibes

    • @pawellukas8202
      @pawellukas8202 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      @Dev King This may be right if you only focus on multiplayer however for people that like Singleplayer FH1 had an actual progression system and a believable and not too short story. The car and music selection was really good for it's time too. Also the map is really well structured with good hight differences und streets that go up and down for a long time. In conclusion I think a remastered FH1 with added cars and improved Multiplayer would sell like hot cakes it's definitely one of the best if not the best of the horizon series.

    • @lucasvonheiz1310
      @lucasvonheiz1310 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@lFrontal weakest is wrong.
      Fh1 is the 1st, but way too small Map and not that good, and still
      Fh2 empty map but beautiful sounds and an unbeatable atmosphĂšre.
      Fh3 is too "murrican" spirit.
      Too much straights and not enaugh twisty things.
      ( Snow dlc has rectified this at least).
      Fh4 is the most eclectic.
      Sounds are awefull and it's not shiny enaugh to be enjoyed.
      But map is more than decent and you can enjoy it.
      After all, we all have our comparison point.
      To me fh is supposed to be the new tdu with good physics, but it fails.
      I mean we have to wait 5 opus and a confirmed return of tdu to see in game working convertibles? Joke.
      Don't know about fh5 but fh4 is gardens for houses etc etc etc.
      And i can't accept that pg with Microsoft help can't do better than tdu when many players ask for features that exist since 2012.
      Nevermind. I'll see fh5 with the gamepass and tdusc when it came out (even if i'm more than scared of physic)

  • @m1k3g3tz
    @m1k3g3tz Pƙed 2 lety +4

    thank you, for the articulate, intelligent, and insightful synopsis of the last three years of my life.

  • @Drinking-Water
    @Drinking-Water Pƙed 2 lety

    amazing video! I've been playing forza horizon 4 for like a year and is still in the beginner level... now with Mexico, Im definitely gonna refine my skills :D

  • @TheKingKils
    @TheKingKils Pƙed 2 lety

    Watching this 1 day after shifting from fh4 to fh5 it really gave me goosebumps at the end. I literllay played fh4 to it's last day and it was so much fun, and i hope they keep up the great work in mexico. I really loved the video, because it gave me so many nice memories of things i had already forgotten. Thanky you for your effort!

  • @dbsmoker
    @dbsmoker Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I actually love playing this game on the wheel! I’m using a logitech G923 and it’s excellent. I even got a Playseat Challenge and am racing at Pro difficulty level.

  • @tftfxrwrd435
    @tftfxrwrd435 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Class video. Thats it. Pure class. Fh4 is a brilliant game and people dont give it the credit it deserves

  • @MadnessSO2
    @MadnessSO2 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I’m so glad you mentioned the feeling of driving your own car in a video game, it’s almost like you have the same spirit bond that carries over when you’re driving it, very special feeling that I wouldn’t have expected a racing game to give to you

  • @PeipeMasta
    @PeipeMasta Pƙed 2 lety

    Hot dang what a brilliant review, well done sir. Learned everything I needed to know about the game, in the finest detail. Awesome, seriously can't wait to get my hands on this one, thank you !

  • @ides0745
    @ides0745 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    It was a good game, we just had it for too long. Yes, the seasons would have gotten old after the normal 2 years but the hype would've built up if that nasty virus hadn't pushed FH5 back a full on year.

  • @CG_Element
    @CG_Element Pƙed 2 lety +7

    I agree that trying to force casual online racing is a bad decision..and unfortunately that’s exactly what they did for horizon 5. Online ranked mode is completely gone now, nonexistent. I understand that the ranking system in horizon 4 was broken, As a high ranked player, I would sometimes place 1st and literally lose rank because I was matched up against really low level players.
    It’s a real shame that instead of fixing the ranked system, they just removed it all together. That was where I spent most of my time in horizon 4

    • @Quack4519
      @Quack4519 Pƙed 2 lety

      But what if they are working on it but they won’t have it ready on launch date. Maybe we get ranked in FH5 later or is it confirmed that there won't be ranked?

    • @CG_Element
      @CG_Element Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Quack4519 they didn’t say anything about working on it during the live stream.

    • @Quack4519
      @Quack4519 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@CG_Element But they never said from what I remember, that they won’t work on a ranked mode.

  • @eduardosouza0891
    @eduardosouza0891 Pƙed 2 lety

    Amazing review, i love to play FH4 and i'm looking foward to play FH5 !

  • @cooolcolon
    @cooolcolon Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I remember the final Forzathon screens in Horizon 3, still gives me goosebumps when I check back on the game every now and then. Although I didn’t enjoy Horizon 4 as much I still will hold and cherish many memories from the game and hope playground games give it a good send off.

  • @andreanastacio9548
    @andreanastacio9548 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Comparing FH4 to a mullet surprisingly accuurate and I applaud you for the comparison...
    The big issue I personally had with FH4 is the lack of structure to the campaign, and the fact you could get through nearly every race with literally 1 car, of pretty much any class (I seem to recall that the only races that actually had restrictions were certain cross country events, and the restriction would be extreme offroaders which are among my personal least favourite types of vehicle in the game). I would personally love it if FH5 went back to a system closer to FH3, where for any given race you can do both exibition and championship. Exebition allows you to use whatever you want, while championships lock you to specific types and classes of cars, which forces you to try more types and eras ofcars
    The map for me is kind of a mixed bag, in the sense that yes there are alot of hilly and curvy roads, and yes the cenery is beautiful, but to me the game kind of lacks visual variation (the scenery is always more or less one colour, which the big varience being the season, rather than where you are in the map). The map also doesn`t really have any proporly open roads where you can truly stretch the legs of the more powerfull cars.
    As for the soundtrack, it`s not really my cup of tea... I`m personally a metal head, and also enjoy some really base heavy electronic music, and FH4 does nothing to scratch my metal itch, and doesn`t really satisfy my hunger for base that well either... I would generally listen to timeless FM (particularly in winter, it somehow seemed more fitting), and avoid Horizon Pulse because if I recall correctly it was just pop music, and I don`t like pop... I eventually would turn off the radio entirely and just listen to spotify
    Tbe car sounds is something I didn`t notice or really pay attention to for the first year or so (it sounded fine to my ears), but after seeing alot of comments and videos criticizing the sounds for not sounding vary good or loads of cars sharing sounds, I eventually acquired and played every previous Horizon game (FH4 was my entry point into the series when I bought an XBOX with the game bundled in for the christmas after the game`s release), and indeed the sounds are really underwhelming, particularly compared to FH2, but even FH3 sounds amazing in comparison)
    The post launch support was something I never gave much thought to beyond the festival playlist, sinse I hate interacting online with strangers ingame, and generally don`t even enjoy playong with friends that much (outside of just cruising or doing private races), so I ignored most the added game modes, though looking back, the support the game recieved was nothing short of impressive...
    As for the expansions: fortune Island was really fun and has some really cool roads, particularly needle climb and the dirt roads at the top of the map, but the map is honestly too small and once you`ve done all the events you will litterally omly return for needle climb and the previously mentioned rally roads at the top of the map
    As for Lego Champions: I didm`t like it much, for pretty much all the reasons mentioned in the video... The map is kind of bland and the lego stuff just tacked on, the lego cars are too visually difierent from normal cars and the styles do not match at all, and even the lego collecting system was a good idea, but the executions feels half baked, with the challanges feeling hollow and pointless...
    I was originally excited for the 2nd expansion because of how cool the fh3 hot wheels expansion was (horizon being the ultimate playground / theme park fits pretty well with hot wheels, and mamy hot wheels cars are based on real cars, you you can easily build and paint a car that could fit in the hot wheels style, something that`s not possible with Lego)
    Ultimatwly FH4 is a brilliant game that is inany ways netter than the sum of it`s parts, and while I am absolutly fateagued of the game and my oppinion has dropped as a result, I genuinly think that once we get into FH5 and play that for a bit, this game will start to regain a place in our hearts, even if there won`t be much of a reason to come back

  • @DerEddyTeddy
    @DerEddyTeddy Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Buying Forza Horizon 4 roughly one year after launch with all DLCs on sale was certainly the best decision I made
    playing 1~2 hours every week gave me 80+% festival playlist and gave me all the cars I ever wanted and fun for many many months
    I even started finally driving manually in a game in the first time ever and manually tuning cars

  • @ImNotHere4750
    @ImNotHere4750 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great Work!

  • @D1GU5
    @D1GU5 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Thank you for mentioning daily drivers, sound issues and no low class racing lobies. I hope next game will address some of these. Great video, from Russia with love