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Let's Rank All the New Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse Demons!
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- čas přidán 7. 03. 2022
- I've looked at the brand new demons from SMTV and I've looked at the unique and interesting guest demons from SMTIV and now it's time to pay attention to that little in-between title as I look at the new and redesigned demons from SMTIV: Apocalypse!
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I like Doi's Odin because he looks more in Line with Nocturne Thor and Soul Hackers Loki to the point the 3 look like a demonic sentai team
I can get that. Purple Odin works when he's alongside Purple Loki, but when they shifted toward Loki's other design it was nice to get an upgrade to Odin.
Still, I wish they'd just bring back his Soul Hackers design, which I think blows Doi's out of the water.
He's also just...better than SMT I Odin and Soul Hackers Odin.
@@strain42 We might actually get him, SH2 seems to be bringing some Devil Summoner designs into 3D.
@@strain42 I agree with you there wholeheartedly strain Devil Summoner Odin is way underrated, cool ass rune cape fog dude
Nice video. I really enjoy these demon design rankings.
In Cleopatra's defense, she's Greek so it's understandable why she doesn't look like an Egyptian.
Y'know what, that's fair.
More history classes need to make it clear she's from Poltmic/Alexander Egypt and not ancent Egypt
As a Mediterranian, She is Nordic white, mediterranians are a bit more olive and not paper white
I was gonna say, in my defense she doesn't really look Greek either lol
@@strain42 She lowkey looks like a Brittney in a Halloween party /j
Danu wearing a mask is shared with Innana as well. According to the commentary these are deities that were once very prominent in their culture and now somewhat forgotten, so they're wearing a mask as a symbol of that.
About Innana... You have to remember that she is a goddess associated with FERTILITY. Plus, female-looking idols with pretty big bellies were common with many cultures in ancient civilizations. And while yes, her design may seem rather... eccentric, I have to say that:
A: At least, it fits part of what she represents,
And B, There have been designs who go overboard on the dohoonkabhankoloos in SMT before, and they were, to me at least, worse. Those being Artemis (in Megami Tensei 2's Super Famicom port) and Diana (The one from Soul Hackers... which also was used for Artemis in SMT Imagine with different colors. Huh). And while I certainly remember your opinion on Artemis' design in SMT 5, at least that design fits Artemis as not just a Moon goddess, but also a deity of the hunt, and youth. But she certainly would've been better as NOT a DLC demon... Take notes, Atlus.
No, a is completely wrong. Inanna is one of the only fertility goddesses who NEVER gets portrayed as pregnant or even just on the thicker side. She is depicted usually as a thin, pretty young woman.
So to take the fertility goddess (who also has a ton of other things going on) who doesn't get portrayed like that, and giving her a comically enormous belly that could fit her entire upper body several times over is not a good idea in the slightest. Even if Inanna was in the category of thicc fertility goddesses, this design would still be bad because of how overboard it goes.
And multiboob being more weird on Diana does not make the multiboob on Inanna any less weird. That is just not a good argument, and I'm tired of people trying to make Thing A look less bad by bringing in Completely Irrelevant Thing B.
Regarding Artemis : her new design doesn’t resemble a deity’s of the hunt, like at all. I prefer her to Kaneko’s Artemis but she is not that good either. She resembles more a superheroine than Artemis.
Isn't it pretty clear what they were thinking with Innana? Her in-game role is birthing gods as well as the new universe (iirc). Therefore she has a big tummy.
All the other elements are pretty clear references to her mythology/mythological depictions.
Yeah smt apocalypse desgin are more fitting with the game style. For me while I always prefer kaneko, however doi is a great replacement for him as does have pretty similar design kaneko. Funny thing my nickname for there artstyle is kaneko is the pointy one, while Doi is the smooth one
Now that i look to vishnu flynn he is basically the first nahobino
Noah: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@demi-femme4821 we never see noahs true form in the first place
Vishnu-flynn is easily an S tier
i love doi's mephisto. definitely my favorite doi demon design. perfect blend of classic depictions of mephisto paired with more modern aspects too. he looks fun to hang out with and possibly sell my soul to!
Personally Vishnu-Flynn would be S tier. The black and gold color scheme, and the red of the light sabers really making it to be a great design and I would have never imagined mixing Star Wars with Hinduism, that is interesting. Althought I do agree with his expression being a bit goofy.
IS Danu wearing a mask, or is her face just a different wood texture?
That was always my thought
Looking at YHVH's 2nd design, it's probably designed after the 10 plagues of Egypt. With the noticable ones being the goats representing the dead livestock, the snake representing the serpent the staff turned into, all the insects (locusts, flies and gnats) as the grasshopper, the frog representing, well, frogs, and more abstract takes such as thethe toiling human on top could be taken as the boils that covered the egyprians and the dark color palette for the main boedy being the darkness covering egypt in the ninth plague. of course this is all my interpretation and there are still 2 thatre unaccounted for (the bloody nile and hail)
I think the concept of yhvh 2nd is he's atop the things he damned or things that had been demonized by religions that follow him ex: the locust being a symbol of famine or destruction, the goat commonly associated with satanism or the snake which i don't think i have to explain
but what about the frog?
I'd actually be interested on what you think about the beta/first draft designs that have shown up in the art books for 4/4A. I liked Innanas design there
Dagda also had an awesome design there, it was very accurate to his Legend and just looked good in general.
Great video bro!
Just wanna say that I'm pretty sure that Danu has a mask because she's an extremely old Goddess, so old that people don't really know what she looks like, so there'd probably be nothing under that mask if she took it off.
I wish your ranking had included the beta designs.
SPECIALLY Satan's 2nd unused design. Which is this Creepy Awesome giant snake with 6 eyes that are also faces.
Maybe I’ll eventually go through all the concept art and rank those too. I’m pretty open to categories right now
@@strain42 Looking forward to it!
Why does nobody like the "Breasts" Demons? I remember a phrase from Game of Thrones: "Why Every god has to be a god of Anger and Destruction? Where is the god of Breats and Beer?" That sentiment really got through me since then I respect every breast goddess-like inana or artemis even if they are not really breasts goddesses I like that element in their designs.
I dotn know why but the new Merkabah really pisses me off with how shiny it is, it should be more of a drowned out creature in my mind, but the boobs comment made me laugh so props
Flyshnu! Lol!! 😆 Also, YVHV's second form seems to reference the Demiurge from Gnosticism.
Even though Demiurge is in SMT 4.
@@dragonmaster613 Yes, I know, just something I thought was interesting, especially with how it's ironic how YHVH get demonized like the other deities.
I noticed that his design is missing from the SMT V Video, so i gotta ask what do you rank the SMT V Lucifer design there? I think it's almost as good as the classic.
I wish it was on the nintendo switch
For me Odin, Cleopatra, Satan, Danu, Dagda,and Krishna are the best designs in apocalypse cause to me they stand out more.
I think Danu had more time to really sync up with Nozomi and actually... well works with her. Dagda has less of a good relationship with Nanashi compared to Danu and Nozomi's. Which validates her lacking an accent
Oooh,can you review Persona 2 Duology personas?
Sukuna hikuna is my fave, so smol
Vishnu-Flynn was really nice, but, yeahhhh, the lightsabers were kinda extra. I would’ve loved if he kept his flute or made some sort of prism Diamond and levitated between his extra hands.
How can i see those animation in the back in HD :o ? where?
All of the background footage I used in this video were just trailers for the game from the official Atlus West CZcams channel.
@@strain42 i see, thanks!
How’s the upcoming Compendium?
Still planned for this month. Just like every month.
A fun tip you can always use is that if a Megami Tensei game is coming out in any month, so like this month has Ultimax launching on the 17th, that's when the Compendium video is coming.
@@strain42 What if the month doesn’t have a MegaTen release?
Then it will usually come out either near the beginning or near the end of the month, depending on my schedule. Most frequently on a Tuesday. If you'd like specific dates, I provide monthly newsletters for my Patreon supporters telling them exactly when videos will be going up.
S rank for Satan! Hell YEAH!
8:24 Kaiba: “Why is she white?”
Yami: “Wha?”
Kaiba: “She’s an Ancient Egyptian Queen, why is she white?”
Yami: “Kaiba stop activating the race card and listen.”
Pretty sure that racially cleopatra wasn't Egyptian
Yeah, she was Greek. But in my defense she doesn’t look Greek either 🤣
Cleopatra was Greek, and contemporary Egyptians of the day we're basically that. She wasn't actually beautiful though, or even known for her beauty. That's something that came later
You don't like Shesa ?? How about flyn-shesa
Why does 2nd form YHVH look like a tormented wojak
This made me laught way herder than it should've
YHWH is not an intentionally unpronounceable name, it's simply replicating a quirk of the original Hebrew texts we get the name from (namely the fact that the texts contain no transcribed vowels at all).
Linguistic telephone through Latin would see YHWH become "Jehovah", but it's generally agreed nowadays that "Yahweh" is more accurate to how YHWH would have been read aloud (this being backed up by a number of old Greek transcriptions).
I just thought he was talking about how ingame, when characters try to pronounce the name it just comes out as distorted static.
2:40 lol
C-3POdin
Love Krsna
Odin is C Tier for his G string tanga thing
My god hell why ?
Same with Thor
These characters need rework
Asap
Cleo is very royal eygptian. Most of the her dynasty spoke greek and she came from the macedonian empire. She was not beautiful tho, she was pre much jam stuffing due to how in bred she was
Doi's Satan is a huge step back from Kaneko's Satan design.
The thing that irks me about Cleopatra's design is that there are reconstructions of what she looked like, but she was turned into a generic anime girl with a couple nods to Egypt thrown in at the end.
Also, fuck Odin's design. Odin is a trickster! He can fight, if he has to, but he is more interested in sneaking around to find out secrets than going around stabbing people.
u gave my waifu mermaid a C? jeez i know its your opinion but disliked and unsubbed. im not trying to hurt you but that pisses me off. mermaid is PEAK design.
that moe look
that delicious flat chest
thoser skulls showing her horror
nah man i cant follow this channel.
K
Do you like fishsticks?