Owners Taste Their Own Medicine as They Receive Their Dogs' Punishments | It's Me or The Dog
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- After using shock collars and prong collars to discipline their dogs, these owners taste their own medicine and quickly decide other methods of training might be a better option...
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can we PLEASE normalize doing research before getting a pet.
AMEN!
i mean yea but it’s already normal
I researched for two months before getting my GUINEA PIG, it’s really not that hard 🤦🏻♀️
@@junomay6341 i wish :( almost everyone i know/in these types of tv shows got their animals by impulse, specially when said pets are cockatoos, fish or rodents. although i have two acquaintances that bought dogs on petstores simply because they were on sale; and i'm always surprised when i hear of someone who didn't know basic stuff about the pets they already own (outdoor cats have very short lives, some plants are dangerous to pets, not every human food is safe to pets, declawing is bad, you shouldn't keep different species of hamster together, cats shouldn't drink cow milk etc etc... like, most of those are so basic and important!! and a lot of people just ignore it!! :( i'm so sad)
@@luisaaraujo6433 I agree I cant count how many times I've had to help rehome cats dogs and even a cpl sugar gliders because of basic ignorance
Owner: "They're so big and strong"
Cameraman: Films a doggo munching on a blanket.
😂😂
This comment should be pinned its humorous AF ❤😁🤣
Its not the camera man, its the editor!!!
(Sorry for my saltness, but as a video editor myself i need to step for our underrated profession xD)
Augusto Lage the editor doesn’t film, the cameraman does
Lol 😂
I feel absolutely awful when I step on my dog's tail. How the can people shock their dogs?
We use a shock collar on our dog but only to keep him in his yard we have an invisible fence half the time we don’t have to even put it on him but sometimes he needs a reminder of his boundaries
@@dominicmcelroy3446 I think that that’s a bit diffent than you shocking them your self because they are doing something you don’t like
@@dominicmcelroy3446 Shock collard are NOT okay. Voilence and pain is not the answer.
Whether a shock collar can be used depends on the dog and the collar you buy. The shock might feel like needles or a quick jolt. It should just be a quick jolt. (From someone who's tried one) themselves).
@@dominicmcelroy3446 just teach him please shock collars are horrible, even for small reasons
So, from their dog’s perspective. They’re protecting their family and what do they get in return? Some shocks.
Basically :(
It doesn’t make sense. My parents want to get a shock collar. I told them to not do it and I never will. If my dogs trying to protect me, then let them.
It's worse than that.
The dog will start to associate seeing another dog with pain which just makes the problem worse :(
@@hannahadlington9396 Finally someone EDUCATED!
@@plasma9862 bruh what
Owners: I think the *dogs* are responding well
Victoria: I think the *owners* are responding well
Because its the owners that need training
*Victoria* | *Owners*
*Owners* | *Dogs*
You get it? Makes sense?
Pandix & Bunnix yes
Marilena hi
Lol I was thinking the same😂 it's never the dogs fault it's always how the owner does things.
"Dogs are so big and strong, they're extremely hard to control"
If you cannot control it, don't get a dog then....
Or get a small dog that are perfect for kids and old people. It’s pretty simple 😭 and if they can afford to get three dogs, I’m sure they can afford to find a dog that has the perfect temperament for them.
Or get a cat
What dog breed is it
@@RizeKimmy was about to say that
Cats are good too if you cant get a dog, i have one and my cat is nice! 💕
what a kind and brilliant trainer. she knows exactly what shes doing, engages with the dog perfectly and treats the owners mistakes with understanding and treats them with respect and kindness while reguiding them on how to properly train their dog.
She is not only teaching the dogs, but she is also teaching other people.
No she isn’t she self trained and has never even owned a dog prong collars are fine
@@chillyforest69 Absolutely not. They are digging into the sensitive part of the dogs neck, even if it does not leave marks it's not an effective way of training whatsoever. It's behavioural conditioning, not a proper form of training and learning pattern for the dog. Negative reinforcement is not healthy for anyone or any animal, when you give them a positive association with entirely non violent methods like a clicker or whistle, instead of thinking "shock bad" they think "whistle/clicker is good, I want more of this!", without ever using force or threat on the animal and helping it see what is decent behaviour within the home. It's about working with them, not against them.
@@alekk3687 also just so you know dogs have thicker skin than humans it doesn’t go on the trachea and also it evens out pressure plus they don’t wear it 24/7 and they don’t hurt
@@chillyforest69 Yes, dogs have thicker skin. But any dog would rather just have a plain collar or a harness over a collar designed to dig into it's neck when it walks. It doesn't actually contribute to anything besides the design being painful for a lot of dogs, even if you have a tougher dog- proper training goes a long way, there's no positive use for it. Any dog can be trained out of aggressive pulling if given the time and patience, and if your dog is violent for whatever reason and you're using a prong collar to make it stop itself, it just means you're a bad owner. (Just assuming, correct me if I'm wrong on the last one. I noticed you have an american pitbull?)
She’s also a marriage counsel to
WHY do self-admitted “not strong” people get these huge dogs that obviously need a LOT of attention, and thorough training???
I mean... I’m not strong but I’ve always had big dogs that I’ve trained since they were puppies.
I respect old people that get small dogs because small dogs are the ones they can keep safe.If you old and can’t even remember to take ur meds don’t get a dog at all
I know right! I picked a breed that was perfect for me, a Puggle. Small dog that doesn't need much up keep and spends most of the day sleeping.
What dog breed is this?
Big dogs need a lot of attention and walks. But "not strong" people can take care of them too. As long as they've done their research and get some help from someone else to train the dog if the dog needs it. That is proper and ETHICAL training. Like positive reinforcement. NOT shock training. My friend's 5 yr old sister can walk my 80 lb pitbull just fine lol.
I think the problem is that
1. They didn’t research about the dog
2. Or they didn’t even research about the dog
RESEARCH ABOUT YOUR DOGS!!
Technicaly it is one problem, but it is so fatal it needed to be mentioned twice.
Isn't the owner one of the leaders of a weimaraner rescue?
@@earthy205 it is yes!
This lady RUNS A RESCUE FOR THIS BREED AND PROBABLY REGULARLY PLACES THESE DOGS IN HOMES WHO ALSO DON'T PLAN TO DO ANY. WORK
Exactly.
"they are so big and strong and hard to control"
Me and my 500kg horse have left the chat✌️
Right 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Me and my 6000 kg Spanish Fighting Bull have burst into the china shop, and no prong collar is going to help. Run for your life, folks. Do not bark at the bull, even if you're a pit bull.
@@alohamark3025 my German sheeperd ran into a bull habitat once and tried to heard the bull and i omg he rannn back to me like ,, mom help me its not working"
I mean I use a rop halter fory horse, I've led him with just a lead rope because his halter got washed and I forgot to bring it with me. 😂
I'm always shocked (positive way) how Victoria can stay calm and nice with people using such things... She is great
I've seen a little old lady with broken hips take perfect control of her dogs through leading them instead of hurting them.
I see a very old frail man having a Belgium shepard mix. His name is Attila. He loves me by now . They go for 3 hour walks. He comes on command and almost never jumps onto anyone. The dog is 11 month.
I used to train service dogs and people with very limited mobility can manage large energetic dogs with the right training.
@B Pudd did you even watch the video? They do hurt.
@@bfudd9986 I hope you are trolling
@William Levy is
Is that not animal cruelty tho...
Soon as the women stood up when sky was barking it looked as if she picked up her TV remote and tried to press mute, that’s exactly what it looked like! 😧
Because that's essentially what she was trying to do.
I know right
Thats exactly what it does
I adopted an 18 month old Doberman X Kelpie rescue 10 years ago. When I got her home we went for a 4 mile walk in a neighborhood where virtually every home has two dogs. Her new scent set every dog to bark. I pulled gently on the leash, said "ignore" and gave her a treat when she did not bark in front of the next house. Ever since that day, she has barked an average of once a month, when the dog next door looses his cool and goes apoplectic: she goes out and barks 4 times which he understands to mean "shut up". (I keep the "leave" command for when I don't want her to touch something). She's the third dog I have trained that way, and none of them have been barkers.
I love watching Victoria's videos because she has such a gentle, calm, compassionate and loving approach to all the dogs she helps. It almost makes me breath a sigh of relief myself and makes me feel more relaxed, so I imagine the dogs must feel the same!
True, ur she’s also uneducated on certain tools. Aka the prong collar.
This should be called " *Its me not the dog* "
Since, the dogs never are bad. Its the owners.
True words.
I like the hamster in your profile picture, what cage is he in?
@@definitelynotavegan7285 Dunno the name sorry (Hes a lil Syrian called Coco 💖💫)
@@drawing_with_cookies can you post videos of you hamsters please because I subbed
Dogs can definitely be bad
If you can’t handle a large hunting dog, maybe don’t get one? Nonetheless three...
I assume a hunting dog would need to be taken on hunting trips occasionally. We had a friend who had a herding dog and it didn't work cattle or and so it got aggressive to the dogs around it in response.
Katherine Padden do u have big feet
oo Ooo I can’t decide whether you have a foot fetish or if you’re calling me a d***
then we need victoria or help
Fenris Wolf
Heck you don’t even have to do the job assigned to, just run your dog.
Skye: * Gets Treats *
The Dog Outside The Fence: *HEY, Where's my treat?*
After watching videos of Victoria and how she treats the dogs i have tried her techniques on my doberman, and the response is very beautiful, it's so good to see my dog's response and there's still a lot of things left, I'll try to go slow and steady, i am grateful to you Victoria
over the last week, i saw a youtuber wrap a shock collar around HIS ARM- NOT EVEN HIS NECK- and get shocked everytime they took damage in a video game... he was scared to play a game he had a lot of experience in, and he knew what was happening...
imagine how the dog feels, the anxiety is just too much for any poor being to handle
Edit: yes i saw dream and georgenotfound ~
Hey u watch Georgenotfound and Dream too? :)
Besides that I agree, those poor dogs..
That's actually a really good analogy to make also who was the CZcamsr?
@@bluehornet197 GeorgeNotFound probably ;)
@Jayne Crafter I feel like their should be like a vibrating collar for dogs and not a shocking one you know so it can be like a phone for the dog
Just some Random Banana With internet access they do have those but some dogs find the vibration way more abrasive that electrical stimulation. Just a case by case basis.
Dog: *sees another dog*, starts barking. Hears whistle: ooh treats yum
I've tested those shoe collars on myself after our dog refused to stay in the fence and the funny thing is that the shock pens from spencers shocks way harder. No way a big dog will listen to it.
Lol ikr
Hi baby
Dog: *sees another dog* , starts barking.
Hears whistle: ooh treats y u m
I have a dog, I got her when she was a pup when I was 13. Her name is Lucy, she’s 25 lbs and full grown, medium dog.
We used to take her out and put her on the tie out every hour and she’d bark relentlessly.
She has anxiety really bad, especially when we first got her. We think she was abused by a big man because she’s extremely scared of big (tall) men specifically. She’s gotten much better over the years as I’ve helped her through it.
But back then my parents hated the barking and they ordered a shock collar that automatically shocks when the dog barks.
I hated the idea and criticized them heavily as I research everything new. (I’m an immense researcher and like to make sure things are safe) and ive always been against things like punishment in children so why would I allow it for dogs?
Well they are my parents, I couldn’t argue or they’d take her back to the pound where she was living shaking in a water bowl.
I even put it on myself around my neck and made a barking noise and had it shock me to see how bad it was. (I wasn’t gonna put Lucy through it without putting myself through it)
Well, she didn’t get it, she’s very stubborn and was scared and when she barked and it shocked her, she started barking at the shocks and it kept shocking her. My dad ran out and took it off because she was crying and she bit him in the process. (He wasn’t upset)
I was very angry with them and told them I told them so and I figured something out. Lucy didn’t want to be FORCED to stay outside, so what if I could let her choose?
Every time I took her out I would hoist her up against the doors and make a scratching motion with her paws and then open the door to take her out, AND IT WORKED. She started telling me when she wanted out, she’d bark for me when she wanted in, and it really strengthened our bond. I can understand everything she tries to tell me and she learns very quickly, she’s very smart.
One time she got her leash that was hanging up, brought it over and dropped it on my feet because she wanted to go on a walk! So cute!!
We have a fence now and I just have to open the door for her and now that she gets to choose when she wants out, she stays outside longer and enjoys it. We have two little pups also that we have taught the same way.
I love how classy cool n confident victoria seems in dealing with any tough dog. Her expertise is worth all the praise!
I’m glad Victoria helps people know how to coexist with their dog in Positive way. God bless her
Yep, totally agree! ♡
"They're so big and strong..." -- then don't have such big, strong dogs.
Lol
exactly, you should know what you have before you have and they have 3. No responsibility at all, they even can handle one right.
With three I agree. Though with one you don't know. My dog is 80 lbs, perfectly behaved at the shelter, but once he settled in with us it was another story. We don't use aversives at all but it is hard.
Amen! If you cant do the work to learn them the right way then dont buy them! Get so mad at owners like this. Shock your selfs then. Maybe that will tech them the right way! Its not the dogs fault😡
The worse thing is the owner is dog rescue worker.
The older guy looks like he hated using anything on his dogs and is very happy to be getting help and the older woman looks like she just sees it as a nuisance
Her face when she says were going to throw them in the trash
When she said death...they didn’t care, I would’ve started crying or shown some emotion, they sat their blank
Prongs don’t cause death 😒 Victoria is the worst trainer head collars aren’t even that good for dogs now shock collars are bad you should only use e collars but for the prong they were used wrong in this video
@@chillyforest69 you shouldn’t use them at all, FYI, it can lead to problems causing early death
@@imokayy no they can’t prong collars are fine they right behind the ears where does your information come from
@@chillyforest69 how would you know exactly, your not in the dogs brain, or f a dog is emotionally stressed because of the collars, or have discomfort it puts them a certain mindset, dogs have feelings to, we can’t just do what we want just because we’ve domesticated them, prong collars should never be used on a dog period; the physical and emotional pain it causes them can put them in a, “ death where are you” mindset
@@chillyforest69 I’ve seen enough dogs put into a depressed state because their owners thought prong collars were the way to go
My grandma bought a shock collar for her dogs, tried it out herself, then threw it away.
Good for her :)
It ought to be mandatory for the buyer to experience Any disciplinary device first hand before purchase.
Yay
My mom got one for our dog and tried it on herself and It was at full blast and she just ripped that of and chucked it across the room😂
shock collars are serious training gear that only trained and experienced dog trainers can use because only they know how to apply them as training tools without mistreating animals, no dog owner should be allowed to even buy those without the required knowledge, thank goodness your granny knew better
If you can't control your dog without hurting it, you shouldn't be having a dog.
true worlds.
Exactly!!!
Hello! shock collars, e-collars, and remote collars should ONLY be used for a correction. they don hurt the dog. a prong collar distributes pressure evenly along the dogs neck, a flat collar does not. flat collars can cause more damage than prongs. please do your research.
@@nuggetthehamster7072 Very true. I personally use a prong collar for my Great Dane to curb his pulling. The prong collar doesn't hurt him at all.
There's a different from hurting and discipline
They’re so obsessed with “controling” the dogs. Dogs are your families. If you’re keeping them on your roof, you choose to have a friend. These animals have their own entity, their own soul. You don’t own them, they are never yours. They only belong to themselves. Now as a family, it is your responsibility to treat them with kindness and unconditional love. Every single dog has that capability, but it would only work when requited. Give love, and respect, receive the same.
God if they had children I pity them
Yes thank you I get if you want to train your dogs to be on heal or being able to get your dog to listen to you like I use prongs but I don’t get them because I want full control I get them because they are a good training tool that doesn’t cause aggression like head collars
I mean.... you have to be able to control your dogs. If you’re in a busy place and your dog runs off you have to be able to call it back or get it next to you so it doesn’t get hurt. Jfc 🤦🏻♀️
@@13theartist I mean yeah true that’s why I use those short leads I forget what there called
Why are they on the roof?
Aww the smile on Victoria's face after she said that the collars are gonna go in the trash.. I love her soo much she im amazing 🥰🥰
“it’s for our safety. they are big and strong and hard to control.”
ummmmm don’t get this type of dog then. problem solved
Right
@Karina Peters even at an old age, you can still train them!
Many people can't gain the upper hand on chihuahuas and, at the other end of the spectrum, you have people training great danes and other large and actually powerful breeds well enough that even a 3yo can walk them fine. The owners' training and attitude is generally a whole lot more important than the breed.
And don't get more when you can't handle one
I was attacked by a CHIHUAHUA 😂
I had the mark on me for a month
I was kinda hoping Victoria was going to put the shock collar on them and give them a zap.
The only place a shock collar should be used is for the CZcams Comment section. Any time someone says shock collars are good they should get zapped.
Same 😂
Yea I clicked for that
they are elderly.. doing that would probably cause a heart attack.. i doubt they want to be sued
I wont say what i wanted to happen to them lets LEAVE it at that because i would go to jail lol
I love how Victoria has the sweet Like momma voice
And she also has this stern voice
Something about the wife is deeply unsettling, I can't explain it but there's something off about her. Like she enjoys inflicting the pain.
Me who researches plants before buying them to not make them suffer: "wait they didn't research their dogs breed and needs? Wow"
I'm the same way. Plants are living beings too.
@@TranquilSequoia yess I hate to not know how to help a plant grow
Same I have some experience with plants but I still research for that specific plant so I can care for it
I can tell all of you guys are LGBT and BLM supporters
@@hannahmargaret3184 What?
Advocates of shock collars always say "I've tried it... It's no worse than a tens machine!"
If you read the instructions on a tens machine "warning, never use on throat or near head, may cause paralysis, spasm, harm or death"
THANK YOU!
EXACTLY!!
Cat Hep I hate shock collars but E collars are 🙌🏻
Dogs throats are no where near as sensitive as human necks. As puppies mom's pick them up by the back of their neck to move them around. It doesn't hurt them
Yes, mother dogs carry their pups by the scruff of the neck in their first few weeks of life. ... "Scruffing" is an unnatural, uncomfortable and even painful way for larger puppies and certainly adult dogs to be lifted or carried. 3. Don't hold his collar or tail when picking your dog up.
2:42 u can see how the prong collar is not in the right position it should be up close where the ears are so technically there doing it wrong
Plus they were using too much pressure so of course it was going to hurt. There are plenty of videos of people putting prong collars around their neck and not having any issues. One video the person pulled to hard and of course it hurt him but your not supposed to put a lot of pressure just light pressure.
I all ways cry when she manages to rehab the humans, that means the dog will get a better life.
i have nothing against old people owning big dogs but these people, especially because they should be experts in this breed, didn't look super capable in owning weimaraners. they are one of the most energetic dog breeds in the world and they barely got any excersise, that's animal cruelty. im glad Victoria tought them how to better take care of them✨
They’re GSPs
They're also an older couple. If you're older and not capable of handling a big strong heavy dog, come on use your brain, get a dog you can actually handle. Logic
she also told them what NOT to do.
@@criktun3346 definately not a GSP.
@@criktun3346 nope
"They're so big and strong..." Then get a Pomeranian or something. And why do you have multiple of them 🤦♀️ poor dogs that suffer because an owner decides to get what they want not what they can control.
xxJUDASxx [Tiffness270] I love Pomeranians they are my favourite type of dog and really easy to handle
The Great Life Of Amelia Except for the fact that they constantly shed.
I have a husky name blizzard and I can take care of those types of dogs my sis has a corgi because it fits her lifestyle
Get em a gerbil hopefully their tiny paws aren’t “to hard to control”
You do not need to shock or choke an animal for “training purposes.” Just like you don’t need to shock or put a prong collar around a 3-year old kids neck to teach them right from wrong.
Prong collars don’t choke your dog btw, otherwise I wouldn’t be using it on my dog😉
Are you comparing dog ways of learning with human ways? Lol ok.. better go get educated and watch a good video on prongs! Look it up
Prong Collars don't teach obidenace or good behavior. Instead they teach your dog that disobedience leads to pain or discomfort. Prong, shock, and choke collars are all ineffective ways of teaching a dog how to behave. They don't teach your dog to respect you or listen to you out of their own accord, but rather because the only other option is to be in pain or discomfort. If you cannot teach a dog how to behave without harming them, then you shouldn't own a dog.
@@brennaaa choke collars DO choke dogs though, theyre a whole different thing from prong collars. Even if it doesnt choke the dog though, you still shouldn’t use it because it can cause scars or internal damage over time
Prong collars are cruel and ineffective at gaining trust and building lasting positive habits.
walkmydogspot.com/2020/06/22/the-prong-collar-debate-a-trainers-opinion/
What a lovely couple. Is good to see them keen to try new things and being committed to their training!
I'm sorry but if u cant handle a dog u probably shouldn't have 3 of a large breed. Glad Victoria was there to point then in the right direction bc I don't think they are bad people just made a bad choice.
Amen
"I think Tod and Debby are responding well"
When the owners need training, and not the dog. 😒😒😒
dogs need training, when used correctly, prongs and shock collars cause no harm, flat collars, and front clip harnesses and muzzles cause more harm then prongs and shock collars.
@@kaokka8729 mmmm I'd love to see people parent their human children with prong and shock collars. See how well that turns out. Oh sorry. That's called slavery and torture.
@@1emonsqu33zy mmm, not really, prongs are supposed to be placed up higher on a dogs neck, meaning if placed higher on a persons neck, it would be harmless, and they most likely would not feel anything but a pinch
@@1emonsqu33zy czcams.com/video/pcuR7QwLt7E/video.html 😘
@@kaokka8729 Damn you owned her dude
I do appreciate how fast they were to actually commit themselves to acting better and treating their dog better.
I am actually super happy for these people they learned their lesson! They learned how much it hurts, and those dogs are so beautiful
Lol what? Prong collars do not hurt. I’ve tried it on myself with a smaller one (meaning harsher corrections), and it isn’t painful at all.
@@brennaaa Theyre illegal over here
@@Stettafire that’s great, I’m not as defensive of them as I used to be (10 months ago lmao) but there’s still nothing wrong with them.
When she “there is hope” sis your dogs were never bad dogs you just didn’t train them
Ikr the owners are the problem
i think she meant that 4 the "owners" again i agree with u the dogs r great
The only problem was the owners
True
@@chillyforest69 what th is that name
Another episode of owners don’t know how to take care of a dog
the sad part was this couple were a rescue for this breed, yet were not doing anything for them except attempting to contain them. Victoria got them to start walking the dogs and do field training so the dogs weren't bored. It helped their behavior a ton!
@@bun04y Exactly, you can't expect a dog to meet your needs if you don't meet theirs.
@@imzadi83fanvids7 Exactly
Prongs are not bad.
She is the head of a rescue shelter dogs
My issue with prong collars is more in that pulling on your dogs neck is never good for them and a prong collar encourages that. I've found harnesses work better to lead dogs and don't hurt them. (and with larger/stronger dogs you have more control)
I love how Victoria is sooooooooo positive it’s really helps with any pet not just dogs😊😇
“They’re such big strong dogs”
ThEn WhY’d YoU fOkiN bUy ‘Em ThEn?!!
Exactly!!! If ya don't like big dogs, don't fricking get them!!!!!!
Ya
Just saying, 'adopt' sounds nicer. :)
We ned the shock collar for our safety cos they're so big snd strong
Then don't get 1 big, strong dog let alone 3
LET ALONE 2!!!!!!
@@exact5752 i thought there were 3
@@thenerdytiger9306 r/woooosh
Go.4 gaming It’s not a woooosh moment.. also nobody even says that anymore 😂
They need a stuffed animal oh, nothing more.
They seem like decent people who are genuinely interested in helping their dog do well.
6:46 we used to use a head collar for my dog when we were training her. My dad wanted to use a prong collar but eventually I insisted that she was going to hurt herself because it didn't deter her pulling, so we used the head collar instead until she stopped trying to pull, which is when we got her a harness. It works like a charm, especially for redirecting them
People gotta remember dogs have the minds of toddlers. They need to be loved, nurtured, and conditioned with positive reinforcement. When you shock, yell at, or put prong collars and stuff on your dogs, you're basically doing that to a 3 year old
Actually, scientists say dogs have the mentality of a 2 1/2 year old; so even younger than you've stated. Now, here's where you're misinformed- prong collars and electric collars are to be used as cues and as a form of communication. People that use these tools "CORRECTLY" are trying to protect their dogs and save their lives. The corrections are done minimally and last a second. They also work immediately as opposed to a year of positive only training- if at all. Most importantly, the "Gentle Leader Leash" that Victoria is using in this video did more damage to my dog's neck than the prong collar ever would when my dog (that I rescued) became highly dog reactive. That leash works for leash pulling only. My dog was a leash puller as well which is why I purchased that specific leash. Now, both problems have been corrected. Yes, there are many poor pet parents in the world. However, this world has even more bad people parents.
The only thing I put around my dogs neck is a collar a NORMAL collar
PandaSnapDragon normal dog collars can actually damage the dogs throat and choke them, a prong collar instead evens the pressure out on a dog’s neck instead of putting the pressure on the dog’s throat. I mean if the prong collar is in the wrong hands it can harm a dog. Any collar can cause harm to a dog if used incorrectly.
Prong collars used as training tools has be proven to be safer than flat collars
The collar I occasionally use on my dog only beeps (quietly) because I have chronic bronchitis and cannot strain my voice on certain days. I would never think to hurt him just because he is him. A stern talking to helps him on the worst of days.
That is an intellligent WORKING dog waiting for someone to engage with her. and to respond to her energy - no idea why retired people would get that kind of dog.
Probably for protection??
probs didn't look it to the dog, or looked posh
They should just get a Golden Retriever and be done with it. Or maybe a pug.
@@BULLSNATION100 Thersles everyrhing wrong with getting a guard dog. For a start its an insurance nightmare
@@1911Zoey Deffo a pug. Retrievers need excercise
I use a prong on my dog and yes I tried it on my neck, does not hurt at all.if u use the collar like your meant to then it does no damage. The collar has to sit high on the neck just behind the ears. I got a prong for my dog because he was getting very reactive to other dogs on the lead literally chocking himself out on flat collar.. I tried face halti but then he would end up on back legs dangling from head collar. Prong is the only training collar that worked corrected him twice dog reactivity has stopped and he heels beside me. Lots of mistruths told about prongcollars.
She has some good advice here and there, but she's completely wrong about the prong collar.
1. They are fine if you use them well. They're not meant to be poking into the neck constantly and they're not supposed to be on the dog constantly. I only use mine for walks. (I have 2 wolfdogs and 2 Germans). They're meant to simulate a correction from another dog (prongs being teeth) and when it tightens that's when the prongs go straight. They should otherwise be laying more flat against the neck, not digging in.
2. The reason why people put them on the arms to test them is because that's tougher skin. It's conditioned to more things, just like a dogs neck. Has she ever seen dogs playing? They pull on each other's skin and necks all of the time. I see my German Shepherd grab my wolfdogs neck and start pulling on it like a toy and the Wolfdog is fine. He just keeps playing. Comparing a human neck skin to a dog neck skin is disengenous at best.
I used to use a plain "choke chain" apparently when taking one of my dogs now deceased dogs to the vet. It's not a big deal as long as the chain isn't choking the dog.
@@dedsec9734 Right. It's supposed to be used as a correction. It's not supposed to hurt, but it is supposed to be uncomfortable.
People need to quit with this Positive Reinforcement training. It didn't work when they tried with children and it won't work with dogs. Discipline is essential.
All that feel good advice before the camera is absolutely pointless. This woman is clueless in how to really train dogs and besides some obvious common sense tips she’s not teaching them much. They were absolutely clueless to use e-collars and prong collars that, if used correctly, can be fantastic training tools with proven results time and time again. I want to see a video of how are they doing now.
@@bulkingup absolutely.
If you notice, too, she doesn't actually ever deal with difficult, aggressive, fearful, or fearful aggressive dogs. All she has dealt with are moderately stubborn or disobedient dogs who simply need some discipline.
Put her up against an aggressive fearful working line German Shepherd, and she won't be making an episode because she won't even deal with it.
Story time: My dog was stuck in a kennel for his whole entire life..then put on a run. ALWAYS on a prong collar. Eventually he got a infection, scars,and a very serious separation anxiety. But, now he's not suffering now that we have him. ♡
Was the prong collar $10 or under
@@goosemoose6303 idk we got him like that
̄へ ̄ / it probably was and that’s why he had scars, cheap prongs usually never have the ends rounded off or a trachea guard also are you sure it wasn’t a choke chain instead because it’s impossible for a prong to keep tightening at a certain point
he was on a run always trying to escape
꧁Rose oωo꧂ oh
By the looks of it the wife is the one who wanted to use it... The look on her face when she said she was taking all the collars away... Deffo wears the trousers in that relationship
Prongs are fine
When used properly training tools can be quite useful and not harmful.
Yea, even flat collars can be damaging. Any tool can be either helpful or harmful depending on how it’s used
Or just use different training methods then possibly risking your dog being in pain and fear which could cause them to fear and develop aggressive habits.
@@lululemonade5403 tools are not the only thing that can develop aggression, there are way more factors than that. There are many vids when the dog is not in pain after using a prong or e collar, and the reason why is because they were shown how to use them properly. If you don’t like them, don’t use them. Otherwise don’t go shoving your opinion about how it makes a dog aggressive or fearful. It can be a factor, but usually it’s the owners fault, especially if they didn’t bother to be shown how to use them. Other than that, tools can be a great way to correct a dog.
@@ephajanke3242 Some dog trainers I have seen helped address the root of the behavior with positive reinforcement and negative punishment, while most of the positive only trainers only helped the surface of the problem, or even made any difference at all. I have to agree with the clueless trainers who simply think that by putting a prong on a dog, their problems disappears. It takes technique and timing, as well as knowledge.
Victoria deserves all the praise-
Periodt
Wow if your excuse is they’re so big and strong you shouldn’t have gotten those specific dogs if you weren’t willing to put in the effort to simply put in the time to properly train your dogs
Couldn’t imagine giving my Dogs something like this. Animals are your friends, not your servant.
TOM NOOK HAS SPOKEN!! AGREE OR GET YOUR KNEECAPS BUSTED!!
AMEN!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Ok now give me all your bells
Not friends my love♥️♥️
heath but but I gave you all my bells
Don’t worry I’ve got some miles for prosthetic legs
Let''s give this couple credit for asking for help and being open to it plus their follow thru. They obviously love their dogs and want to do right by them. I think people are being overly critical of them.
They probably only called her because they got complaints from neighbors.
@@Traffic_Cone_Man Glass half empty?
@@theseniorthrifter9994 Flawed concept. Take that half empty glass and pour it on a small cup it will actually overflow:)
Yes! Beenn waiting for this forever!
"...but Victoria has a response"
*ad starts playing*: mentos chewing gum!
Same loool
Gums always the answer
The ad I got at that moment said “new Annie’s deluxe Mac and cheese”
I got nescafe gold
Mine was a personal shopper for a supermarket ad lol
“They are so big and strong, they are extremely hard to control.” Then why in the world did you get such big dogs and so many of them. People are just ridiculous.
Ikr
I have the head collar, but we call it a gentle leader it is the best for dogs that pull! It is like a bridle for a horse, it steers the head and applies a slight pressure at the back of the head if the do pulls.
Prong collars are entry level leash pressure trainers. They are used to grant your dog disciplinary action, in the moment, in a language they can understand (i.e. a mother dog's bite). Discipline to stem bad behavior, and treats and praise to reward good behavior, is the foundation for training your dog to be the most obedient animal in your zip code. You won't get very far without one of those two things, and the correct usage of the prong collar is as important as paying your dog for being good
I could *never* even imagine hirting my dog just so they could "learn" I wish shock collar should not be used!
Yep my cousin got a shock collar for their dog cause he would run away and he’d have to go after him for over 2 hours. This was a weekly thing. They tried everything to get him to learn to not run away but nothing worked until they got shock collar. The same day they got it he ran away so they gave him a shock and he came running back and since then it’s never been used on him. Even though it was used once on him I felt bad and they used the lowest level there was on the remote thing,
Shock collars can be used in a very humane way if you put in on the lowest sensitivity it literally feels like a vibration.
So Lily, what form of correction do you use or would you use when your dog lunges at other dogs or reacts negatively to other dogs in any way- give your dog a treat...??! Balanced training can save your dog's life as well as the life of another dog. If your dog is perfect, which I highly doubt, then corrections aren't necessary. So, until your dog's behavior is perfect; please do the rest of us dog owners a favor and correct your dog before its behavior becomes "our" problem.
Omg I know right I feel so bad for them 💔🥺☹️😔😣😭😩😫😖😣😟🙁
Ya my friends use a shock collar on their dog and then say “it’s fine it doesn’t hurt them stop being a baby about it” like it does! It really does and I feel so bad for them 😔
How can the head of a dog rescue put shock collars on her own dogs?
Yeah I don't understand it either
Because she just wanted a rescue to get these kind of dogs, but does not have the patience or understanding to actually train and work with them.
Because when used properly it is effective. The clip of the prong on Sky is horrible, it is below the flat buckle basically on the chest, it SHOULD be positioned JUST below the ears
@@davidfayle7654 effective but it's never a must to train a dog like that.
@@The.MoNsTeRs never a must to ignore aggressive behaviour and just give cookies either
We used a head collar for our rescue pittie for a while when we first got him, he pulled so hard he'd accidentally made a girl at the shelter fall and hurt herself, the head collar worked wonders and allowed us to get him to the point he could be walked with a normal leash and collar with no issue and on recall in the yard. Patience and understanding goes a long way!
The man is so wholesome.
The thing that these people dont understand is that.................dogs bark
@Phils HolyWater You can't control barking it's a natural instinct
It’s exactly like how humans talk
@Phils HolyWater Yep, your absolutely right!!
@Phils HolyWater then show the way. How do you make a big dog not attack small dogs or other dogs?
Unless it's a husky type then it more howls I think.. 😂
If it’s hard to control a big dog, then why did you get so many?
Idk
Idk I got a pit and a Doberman you don’t need control you need proper training tools
@@chillyforest69 your username tells everything; you shouldn't own a dog if you gonna use a collar with literal spikes going through their neck and yet think that what youre doing is right. control and proper training are the best things that you can use to control your dog, not harmful tools that only make more damage than good.
@@lobotomy_p0p801 not true at all, prong collars do not have spikes that go through the neck
@@crowexxe yes, they do. it may not be exactly a spike but it does the same damage. look it up on Google "injuries caused by prong collars"; it will have a bunch of dogs with literal holes in their neck.
It took me 5 months to adopt a pit because I wanna make sure I could take care of my dog.
Dogs aren't just pets, treat them as part of your family. They have feelings too and they deserve to be loved and cared for.
Love watching your videos keep up with the good work 🙂👍💕
Please get educated about your dog’s breed before getting one. It is amazing to me when people want to have a big powerful dog but want it to act as a stuffed teddy bear.
Thank you Victoria for training people. Xo 💖
She runs a rescue shelter
@@jman4668 omg, that is so sad.
I have a big, strong dog. Hes a Great Pyrenees. And he is a big teddy bear. He's sweet and lovinv. However, he still does his job as protector. He wont let people near me in public. Not but growling and being assertive. He just stand between them, or wont let me walk closer to someone. If he deems someone as bad and they are away from me when I try to walk closer, he just dead stops, will not move. And if he doesnt wanna move, you are not makng him. Any other time on a leash?? He goes wherever i want him. And at home, he a huge potato. And a cuddle bug. You can have big and powerful all wrapped up in a teddy bear. Provided you know how to handle the dog and do so properly
@@KJ-oon not only does she run a rescue but for specially Weimaraners. It was in the last episode. Honestly this one made me so angry with them I almost want to take the time to reply to everyone with that bit of info. This woman is so ignorant.
@@TeamJacobBlackWolfie congratulations on your lovely dog. They are truly amazing. But I said "stuffed" teddy bear, yours doesn't sound like one to me.
What bothers me is when they don't want the work. Having a big dog is a lot of work. Knowing my limits at this stage of my life has made me choose even my dog smaller, Kujo (in the profile pic) because he is only 8lbs.
People should go through some kind of care test before being allowed to get ANY animal. And be checked up like every few months or so to see if they’re treating the animal well.
Or children
@@mstickney6612 I was gonna say that. But yeah everyone needs a test for getting animals or having kids.
YES THAT AMAZING IDEA!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSS YESS YESSSSSS !!!!! ❤️✨🤯
Wait but what if they pretend to be a good owner and they are not actually good 🥺 I hope not
@@minicloud450 true. But hopefully if it were a thing it'd be advanced enough to catch the lies. Like a lie detector test.
My dad got a shock collar and shocked all of my siblings and me and said, “this is why we don’t have a shocked collar for are dog and never will.” The shocked hurt, it hurt a lot
Really?
That must have hurt to be shocked.. i dont have a dog but i am in future and i would NEVER do ANYTHING to hurt it EVER
There lots of videos here on CZcams of people shocking themselves with e-collars that prove you wrong. You’re bullshitting.
It's bad that those people did that, but it's great that they will be able to do the right thing now.
Victoria grew on me so much this episode. All of These tools that they used are illegal in Sweden btw.
They are? Thank god
In germany too
When properly used prong collars are safe
They are illegal here in Australia too 🙌
WS Reborns and Fun! Sadly
I work at a pet store, and have for almost 8 years now, and I have NEVER seen any prong/choke/shock/e collar used "correctly". The owners are almost always angry and frustrated with their dogs, yanking on them or yelling at them and not even praising or rewarding when the dog finally does what they want it to do. Just the other day there was a guy in with his dog, who had on a shock/e collar but the guy had forgotten the remote. The dog was sniffing things and not listening to its owner, and the guy was just muttering at the dog about how if he had the remote he would be "lighting him up", which honestly just disgusted me.
if these training tools are going to exist and be used by pet owners, then there needs to be some way to keep the awful/ignorant people from getting them. I don't agree with them at all, honestly. I'm with Victoria on this one - i think they all belong in the trash :T
i also love how balanced trainers always try to say that purely positive reinforcement training "doesn't work" on aggressive/reactive dogs. This dog was aggressive and very reactive. Are they going to try and say that she wasn't the "right kind" of aggressive or something??? i will never understand
Thanks for having a heart.
If you don't understand then do more research on the tools before slamming them. There is a way to use them correctly. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm with the balanced dog trainers on this one. Some ways work for some dogs, some don't. These owners have no idea what they are doing with the tools and therefore shouldn't be using them.
@@lifeisstrangeinonceuponati8841 Try using a prong collar on you but directly under your head. It doesn't hurt that much there because it should fit like this. Btw you are using punishment to training your dog even if he doesn't get the treat.
There is no correct way to use these collars. They should be illegal.
@@amethyststarr7362 please wear the yourself. Have some shock and pull you around. Them comment.
You're just so smart and correct!
Here my tip of the day!: don’t do anything to your pets that you wouldn’t do to yourself!
Yes thank u
Ikr like when I got my prong collar and my e collar I tried it on myself so many times
@@chillyforest69 But would you want it on you constantly on walks digging into your neck, or when you were to reach down for food, etc.? Or would you rather be able to eat normally and just learn what's right and what's not if you were in the dogs position yourself.
Ok well I guess I won’t buy a collar for my dog, put the no pull collar she put on the dog, I won’t leash my dog, I’ll let them in out of the house whenever,etc. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
@@whatever3563 that’s not what I mean.
all that stuff is safe for your dog.
What I mean is that you probably wouldn’t put a shock collar on yourself willingly.
I didn’t say treat your dog like a human.
Okay the dog owners did a lot of bad, but we have to give them a lot of credit for seeking help and immediately accepting their mistakes and being open to learn. It is not a problem to be ignorant, the problem is to not be open to knowledge.
the fact that they have dogs to beginn with is ahuge mistake. people like them should not be allowed to have pets. this is not just a matter of being ignorant its a matter empathy and of character.
Exactly I don’t see why people say they hoped they would’ve gotten shocked. I get it but damn 😂 If they were incredibly stubborn and in denial about how brutal it was to treat their dog like that then that’s when they would’ve needed to get shocked lol
The other dog after not getting noticed: heart been broke so many times
My dog had a prong collar but we only used it once a day to teach her to walk nicely and after not even a month she walks perfectly without a lead
Eh prong collar is more effective and less uncomfortable for a dog. my dog has no issue with her properly fitted herm sprenger prong collar but had HATED every head collar, easy leaders or harnesses. Not to mention the head collar can cause a lot of issues if a dog pulls coming from someone who works at a vet office :/
Yes prong collars and ecollars when used correctly to condition dogs is perfectly humane. Probably more humane than people that try to train with only positive reinforcement and their dog pulls on the leash effectively strangling themselves. People that are so against ecollars have no clue about the modern technology. With basic obedience comes less barking.
I also watch another dog training channel, and I have seen them be used very effectively, and I have seen the dogs respond very well to them, the dogs are obviously happy and enjoying themselves during the training. They are used only for a short time to train, and once they have realised the basics, they can go to a regular slip leash.
I think people use them incorrectly by using them too much. The other channel I watch will use them to get the dogs attention, not through pain, but from a weird buzz or a tug and then it is immediately released as soon as the dog turns and looks at them and they are praised.
Why get a dog if you don’t know how to take care of one
because they dont use their brain
Who said they don’t know how to take care of one ?
NiChole Gallo yeah
@@nicholegallo1664 Have you seen the show lmao
They think they're pretty and don't use their heads. I should know, my parents gave me a German Pointer for my birthday years ago but thankfully I was at a time in my life that I could take care of her needs. Just the thought that if it had been a bit earlier scares me because then I would have been neglecting my baby...
„lets get a weimaraner for your 90th birthday !“
what could go wrong
This is the comment I’ve been looking for. Now I can sleep well tonight. Thank you
Such a great response for such a small amount of time
I love your videos and how eye-opening they are
I saw a comment saying not to throw away the collars and to give them to other people. Do y'all really want other people to use them??
I know edits are annoying, but please read before arguing with me :')
edit: before you say anything, I'm AGAINST using pain on dogs. Is it really that difficult to understand. Don't train your dogs with prong collars. The pain may temporary to get your dog in line, but it is not worth it. Just use treats. Like is it that hard to lave some basic human decency, and to not use force? Also especially don't use the prong collar regularly, as it could leave marks, bruises, scars, etc.
Another edit: I'm not trying to argue anymore, so either take it up with someone else or scroll, please. thank you.
A lot of trainers use them in TRAINING bot active wear. Like how you break a horse by riding them.
@@firefeather9999 choke collars can collapse dogs' trachea. And even going as far as to breaking their necks.
But using them in training is still pretty risky.
@@Icantfindafuckingusername actually your wrong flat/regular collars collapses there trachea while a choke collar or a prong collar doesn’t
@@chillyforest69 youre wrong bro. It doesn't matter if it collapses the dog's trachea. It still hurts it. Therefore its not ok to use. Idc what you say all ik is that im not using prong collars or flat collars. Im using harnesses and training them to walk beside me
@@Icantfindafuckingusername There is a difference in choke collars and pinch collars
I love the old guy whos so nice and hes like, “i dont want that on my dog anymore”
u r an angel to every dog
the fact that they said holding the prong against their neck for three seconds “hurt” is hilarious to me. i YANK mine on my own neck, harder than they’re ever meant to be used on an actual dog, leaving way bigger indents on my skin than in the video, and it still doesn’t hurt 🤣