so... what was the Broken City 2019 show about?
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- A TON of you have asked me to share my interpretation of the show... Here is my response.
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I don’t understand what the confusion is. Here’s an explanation of Broken City. “In a city rife with injustice, ex-cop Billy Taggart (Mark Wahlberg) seeks redemption and revenge after being double-crossed and then framed by its most powerful figure: Mayor Nicholas Hostetler (Russell Crowe).”
got em
Omfg every time I search broken city on CZcams
George Collins omg George Didn’t think I’d see you here.
-Shaun
instant blue balls
To be fair you have to have a very high iq to truly understand rick an.. er I mean broken city shows
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No. Your statement is not the slightest bit pretentious
I mean they're pretty much the same thing
Unfortunately, you can't stream the finals run with audio on FloMarching, so the only way you can watch it now is to watch a recording on CZcams (mine got taken down unfortunately). Erik Lindquist has by far the BEST version that hasn't been taken down.
Not Drumline Videos I think Erik’s might be from semis. Not 100% sure though.
For the past few years its been a case of story vs implied story. Both are great but both are drastically different. Some groups prefer one (Pulse, POW, box six shows in general) and some prefer the other(BCP, RCC, RX Etc). Lots of people fight over how one is better than the other, but it shouldn't be the case because both are still telling a story. Watching indoor drumline and the experience you get comes from the execution, not the concept. A gritty dark show is good in theory, but not every dark show is great. Many people wanted Pulse to win because they had a straight forward story(two dads arguing) while many people wanted bcp to win because their show barely made any sense(two dads arguing). Its a simple choice of apples and oranges, both good and different. In the end the judges preferred the oranges. BCP simply put beat pulse on the execution. Next year we'll see what direction people go, but its still going to be good either way. Pulse will probably stick to their formula, and so will BCP, and thats fine, we still get great emotional shows, and if they don't provide, we have like 20 other groups that are pretty heckin good.
Btw congrats on the win, and breaking the record on the way as well. It was amazing to be able to watch the first show at the preview to watching it end at the UD.
"next year" ahaha.....
While I have to say I'm a sucker for a show that can successfully convey one single meaning, you're right on man. I'm majoring in English to become a teacher, and people will get caught up in what the stories are "trying to say". But if you really pay attention and take in a piece of art, you can take so many things away from it... and often times its the meaning we construct for ourselves that carries the most weight. I enjoy both styles of shows, but today I think I gained a little more appreciation for those shows like yours, which focus less on communicating a message and more on allowing the viewer to interpret their own.
well the show title is cede(give up), and the sample song is let you win. it is pretty clear to me, and it is ironic that you guys won with a show that is about giving up on winning lol
shadofreally thank you
Oh dang wow thx
That's not sarcasm btw I'm legitimately pretty impressed that u dissected all that and I'm legitimately thankful for your imparting your wisdom
You guys straight killed it all season and it was fun as hell to watch. I didn't know quite what to expect going into WGI San Bernardino, but I was blown away by the show. All the subtleties and delicate moments really set it apart and challenged a lot of ideas about what an indoor percussion show "should" be. Congrats on a well-deserved win!
I appreciate this more than you know!!! Show concept/understanding is a major topic in this activity! Big congrats BC and well deserved! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Leander HS band gets this a lot as well so I totally understand where you guys are coming from. There isn’t always some super deep message or obvious story to follow in a show....and that’s okay!!! I thought Broken City was incredible and I have enjoyed following your CZcams channel this year Kyle. Even the non music related vlogs. :)
I’ve been watching broken city since it first became broken city which was my freshman year of high school and loved every single show. Mike is actually my instructor at my high school and we ask him questions about what Broken city’s shows and what is it about. Watching this video actually gave me the idea of multiple ideas or thoughts about each of their shows and especially this years show and I know see that show in so many different possibilities. Thanks Kyle for opening my eyes.
After taking your advice and watching the show, the show is better than I imagined, being as it was my first time seeing it. It is more like reading a poem and trying to understand the authors thoughts on the work. Why the author used the words used and the formatting. I believe the show be about a depression. How the person has lost their purpose and meaning in their life do to some kind of event. The show was the struggle of fighting with depression and in the end of the show, the person looking back on a fond item or memory, and that’s what gives the person something to live for and for light to be brightened once again. But that’s my own interpretation of the Show. Hats off to the visual director and the composers, as well as the instructors and performers that made it happen.
this show had me in a deep trance, the way this show was designed and executed hit me hard😂
Well said Kyle . I think this type of approach to show design should be expected from an independent world group. I think Cede is a great example of the evolution that is happening in our activity, 10 - 15 years from now people will point this show and bcp in general when looking at how the activity has evolved over the years. Great Show Congrats.
I needed this
I didn’t care about a solid meaning, but the name had nothing to do with my interpretation, so I was wondering what the name meant xD. I guess that’s asking a similar question though
Aquamelon! What is the name ?
showmeyourleftshots Cede
Totally makes sense to watch this video before watching the show and I watched it on CZcams (don't ask me about legalities lol) right before I watched this video. But yea, I was guilty of looking for what the show meant....but it is TOTALLY cool that we have a personal and individualized experience. Just right now I'm seeing there's so much controversy about wanting concepts they can understand...very similar to how we as humans are looking for the TRUTH (or universal truths) and the answer to everything. Nobody likes being kept in the dark and there is safety in having knowledge so we naturally seek it out. Sorry....this show, like life, is not that simple ;) Thanks Kyle! Great stuff as always!
I went and watched - after watching this video - It. It was my first time seeing it. Man. It just felt emotional. The crawling part really got to me I have no idea why. I couldn’t tell if it was defeat or victory. I’d rather not know the actual mean of the show. It was just emotional, and worth first.
This was the first show in a long time that I actually appreciated. I actually just watched it and enjoyed the skill, and a different feel. Like you said, it was “artistic.” First time in a ling time I watched a show and said, “yes, they get it.”
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I find it interesting that all of broken city's shows are titled with one single syllbled word
Communications major here (I know, lame...) and one of the most interesting and intriguing things I've studied is the concept of "Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it." Sometimes the "how" is more important than the "what".
And the "why" more important/foundational than both the "what" and the "how"... with "when" (SCPA and WGI 2019) being significant, but less so. If the "why" is honest/truthful/sincere (for the core creatives) then it will continually drive the "how" and informs the "what" at every stage of the process. IMO the more this kind of "why-focused" process is adhered to, the less manipulative, pretentious, insecure, trendy, (and especially) self-conscious, the end result (the final show). It's an inside-out process... look in, bring it out... trust instincts... and see what happens (which can be as scary, messy and frustrating as it is exciting, fulfilling and cathartic). I've noticed this process results in a more polarizing response in people... they either love it, hate it or are passionately disinterested. All totally valid responses. I've also noticed that this process tends to accurately (and naturally) reflect the temperament, tastes and psychological profiles (and idiosyncrasies) of the person/people creating the work. When it comes to Broken City, I'm as intimately involved as I am totally outside of the creative process... and my relationship to it all is pretty fluid and constantly morphing... not only from show to show, but along the way throughout the creation of each show. It's really cool to see you guys reacting to it all and interacting with each other about it. I also really appreciate the perspective Kyle shared on this video............ I gotta come out to Dayton one of these years.
Well here’s my understanding of it, when I looked up the word “cede” it meant to give up power or territory, and based on previous shows they usually involve some sort of relationship between people. So after hearing let you win so many times and seeing the flags go up at the end my guess is that it’s about when you’re in a relationship and things are heating up it’s ok sometimes to let your partner win for the betterment of the relationship. Idk tho
Not far off from the truth. Cede(in my interpretation) is about family and the relationships you have with family. Throughout the show you see your family fighting(whenever the sound isn't mic'ed, ie the bass drum accel. Feature at the beginning and ending of the show) and you try to avoid that by remember old and better times(ie the music box). But in the end they're still your family, so no matter what you'll let them in, you'll cede to them.
Fall(the 2018 show) was about the relationship between two people, this show is about the relationships in a family. Both connect in the same way though. Fall is about how even after a break up you still feel for that person, Cede is about how you can't replace family because your bound with them for life pretty much. Whatever this trilogy ends up being will be interesting. Its not telling a story like bloom did, but more so telling anecdotes about a similar topic. Whatever the case, both shows will still be interesting to discuss for years to come.
I’ve watched the show about 10 times and I never got it because I was to focused on the concept but after watching this video I watched it again and I didn’t really focus on the exact meaning and tried to gain my own interpretation about it and I gotta say I shed quite a few tears because my interpretation hits way too close to home
This is why I love Broken City as an organization
Good question
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Lol I just like watching the performers faces through the show, some of them are hilarious
Well said man!
From what I've learn it was about Family. But the show was design to have little to no story. The idea was to have each member be able to connect to the show and be more personally invested. They wanted a show for people to enjoy watching and find their own way to connect to it. Like a piece of art you may never know what the artist was thinking when it was being created but the beauty of the art is what matters that most.
let's get a round of applause for CONCEPT SHOWS!!!
also-is the concept show what drew you to bluecoats? or was that just kind of how it ended up?
wait people care about the meaning to me watching drum corps is just "hehe drum go brrrrr"
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Honestly when I first saw the show ( Finals Night), I missed what the title was. So I didn't even know what the show was called.(Still don't). I was just entertained by high execution of musicality they were able to achieve.
Mike Jackson designs show, USES Roger carter sticks
for the past 3 years my group alchemy has been slammed for having shows that were "Too vague" I feel like we could use a littl more abstract in the art
I haven’t seen the show yet, because I am a cheapskate. However, I have seen “If you’re looking for broken city, this ain’t it. I swear”
@@JohnathanWhitehorn hes referring to the trend of naming videos in the DCI/WGI area "Not XYZ" in an effort to skirt around the algorithm picking it up.
Yeah sorry, it got taken down by FloSports.
Not Drumline Videos I watched the videos for the brief day they were up, and you have my deepest respect. Thank you for your service.
Upon my personal viewing I believe 'Cede' has two themes.
One more prominently shown and easily recognizable than the other, while said other is aligned closer with Broken City's Trilogy theme.
Who was the musical artist you guys sampled from?
Gabe Grasse Adam Watts
I dunno, you tell me
Personally, I feel like this show is a continuation of the past 3 years'. Like a series, saga, quadrilogy, idk haha BCP kind of had the same uniform for the past years, just different colors? ....Same/similar voice overs... maybe they're all connected! But like Kyle said... "It's a personal experience for each viewer"... It draws your attention to figure it out!
so there was a trilogy already, which ended with spine, that would make this a "quintilogy", what seems more likely is that Fall starts a new trilogy with this being part 2, or theyve just found a style they would like to continue with.
@@captainkiwi77 Spot on, theories are endless! I can see it that way as well.
Is this the guy that for some strange reason played Rock Paper Scissors in the lot.
thanks for this
Just happy I got to see Lulu play some sweet Cello 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Can’t watch it legally with sound ;)
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I like your video. Please make video in UCLA and USC. From São Paulo, Brazil.
I watched the show in person at Dayton and was a little confused. I wish I could have known this before the show though.
Edit I was one of the guys who gave you guys food at the final awards ceremony I still have that water bottle your friend drank from.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Broken City. The meaning is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of complex polyrhythms most of the music will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Mike Jackson’s artsy outlook, which is deftly woven into his compositions - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the music, to realize that they're not just complex- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Broken City truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the value in Mike Jackson’s typical isolated section solos with ascending and descending ruffs which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Adam Watts genius unfolds itself on the gymnasium floors. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a BCC Hand tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Yeah they really gave up trying to write a decent pit book lol
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What's broken city?
A city that’s broken :)
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So, I decided to watch the show after this popped up on my notifications. Show concept doesn’t seem terribly hard to follow, but that being said, I feel like your explanation is the opposite of what we see in competition. Groups often times stray away from cookie cutter concepts because of the backlash they receive from judges. I can think of a handful of cookie cutter conceptual ideas from corps like bluecoats, scouts, regiment, and crown that were decimated by the blue devils just ramming notes down your throat with no direction at all. Although y’all’s show was great, I’d say most concept shows are pretentious and only looking to please judges instead of crowds.
This feels like a cop-out. Unpopular opinion, but BC was just too vague this year. Spine was amazing, Fall was almost as good as spine, but Cede... It had amazing moments that moved me, but good art should be able to be interpreted and discussed and have a meaning behind it. It has a central feeling or focus that is explored, and from there people can interpret and have their own personal experience. It has to have direction, a base. And Cede just didn't have that for me. Still a good show that earned first this year.
This show does have an intellectual storyline behind it and should be interpreted and discussed - I don't want me abstaining from sharing my interpretation to discourage people from talking about it. My goal was simply to encourage people to watch the show differently than they might watch other shows in order to get the most out of it.
I didn't want this to feel like a cop-out or like I'm defending the Broken City show this year - I definitely don't feel the need to do that. If you genuinely got nothing out of the show this year, I totally respect that... that is your experience with the show, and I appreciate you sharing that respectfully.
Pulse should of won😂 they actually told a story while broken, I couldn’t understand what’s going on even after looking at so many videos and if judging off sixteenth flams any group can seriously do that, but I mean you guys put in the work warm ups are groovy and really cool.... this is not hate just simply my opinion and what I think of it still love you tsuchi congrats on championship 🙏
How old are you?