Hanannie's true power: summoning hundreds of motivated scapers at will. The twist: Their motivation is completely undefined and uncontrollable by Hanannie
If this video is even slightly watchable you deserve all the credit in the world for editing it, I don't think I stopped talking for the entire 6 hours haha
Just from running the numbers after the collaboration: I think the net-crash is caused by integer overflow -- Josh probably would have received more than 1024 sharks from this specific looting, crashing the interface/math in its entirety.
@@brycet93 They likely use 10 bits for the quantity and use the remaining bits for something else. You could imagine that all items have a bit used to identify (for example) last man standing gear or smth. Or loot that you have collected, but not claimed yet like in the one maze in the mining cave. if they're using 16 bits, the remaining 6 could be used as the item id. Edit: fixed my numbers lol
Were there any instances of him getting 1000-1023 of anything at any point? 1024 is 2^10, so as @brycet93 points out, an integer overflow seems unlikely (integer types tend to also have powers of 2 as their exponents; 2^32, 2^16, etc). The crash could also be an interface not designed to handle four display digits - also rather strange to me, as lost of other places in the game handle this just fine, but this minigame is plenty jank in other ways so who knows.
@@le__birblike Josh showed in the video, when they patched the trabsfering items between a main and an ironman through a store (like apples which he did in the video) they didnt patch every store. So runescape has a great trackrecord of having many things be individually coded
I did a round of fishing trawler yesterday for the diary. I saw the bit about the xp not scaling and thought it was a weird thing to update. This doesn't make sense, but it does clear up the confusion
I think the moral is: Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime. Let a chunkman steal all your fish, and you waste 6 hours and end up as a rock in a Hanannie video.
shout out the the guy who immediately had the collective punishment war crime on deck, playing runescape from his office at The Hague, you’re a real one
I'm glad most of the times I pointed out painfully obvious facts for comedic despair made it in. I'd say it was fun, but doing the oldest and worst minigame in the game outweighs such things.
When I said "Its all in the camera sway," I didnt realize I was enabling the worst visual setting in runescape for the tens of thousands of people who watched the second half of this video. Im so sorry.
Computer science nerd here - my theory on the 80k 'limit' is that it isn't intentional. I would bet that as part of logging and trying to do bot detection, they save some information about every xp drop, including the estimated xp per hour based on recent activity. If the period in which they calculate that estimated xp per hour is shorter than 5 minutes (a fishing trawler run), then as far as the math is concerned, you just made 80k xp in one game tick, so your estimated xp per hour is incredibly high, probably going over the 32bit int or something. It quickly drops down again as it realises that you're not continuously getting those drops on every tick, but it's too late - for a single tick, it was too high for it to handle. The above is just an example I thought of and is a hell of a stretch, but based on the momentary disconnection (definitely a thread crashing and then a new one taking over the connection), it feels more like an unintentional server-side crash than an intentional xp limit.
Someone else mentioned they might be catching more than 1024 of a single type of fish which is what's causing the crash when they click the fishing net
If the second 80k+ run was immediately after the first the it seems he got about 110k exp from it. Went from 126k to 16k and you don't get fishing exp from within the trawler, only looting.
It's not the XP since other systems award higher singular xp values, and those systems tend to be pretty copy and paste. It has to be the quantity of fish in the bag. I bet it surpassed an integer value like 1024 or 2048 and the underflow is what killed the xp, since that's calculated after the opening the bag and after counting the fish
I'm a game programmer, although not on osrs, and I think the disconnect thing is probably not about the amount of xp, it's probably the way the fish is coded, it probably loops through giving each fish individually, and running through like 2000 iterations of the loop probably triggers like an infinite loop detection, since it should normally only go up to like 40. a better way to code it would be to just calculate the total fish of each type in advance instead of calculating each fish every iteration through the loop lol
Tempoross isn't bad, nor is barb fishing. Honestly not every skill needs to be super fast, some of my most fun has been sitting around and fishing and chatting.
i think the MAIN takeaway from this is that fishing trawler's default exp/hour should be buffed by like 10x
Hanannie's true power: summoning hundreds of motivated scapers at will.
The twist: Their motivation is completely undefined and uncontrollable by Hanannie
She missed her saving roll.
His True power is changing his voice in every video
my favorite genre of hannanie video is when she steals 12 hours of life from like 100 people at a time
She?¿ this nibba is male
If this video is even slightly watchable you deserve all the credit in the world for editing it, I don't think I stopped talking for the entire 6 hours haha
Just from running the numbers after the collaboration: I think the net-crash is caused by integer overflow -- Josh probably would have received more than 1024 sharks from this specific looting, crashing the interface/math in its entirety.
So maybe they use a tinyint in the background with a multiplier or something? That value is odd to me
@@brycet93 They likely use 10 bits for the quantity and use the remaining bits for something else. You could imagine that all items have a bit used to identify (for example) last man standing gear or smth. Or loot that you have collected, but not claimed yet like in the one maze in the mining cave.
if they're using 16 bits, the remaining 6 could be used as the item id.
Edit: fixed my numbers lol
Were there any instances of him getting 1000-1023 of anything at any point? 1024 is 2^10, so as @brycet93 points out, an integer overflow seems unlikely (integer types tend to also have powers of 2 as their exponents; 2^32, 2^16, etc). The crash could also be an interface not designed to handle four display digits - also rather strange to me, as lost of other places in the game handle this just fine, but this minigame is plenty jank in other ways so who knows.
@@le__birblike Josh showed in the video, when they patched the trabsfering items between a main and an ironman through a store (like apples which he did in the video) they didnt patch every store. So runescape has a great trackrecord of having many things be individually coded
@@IG33Z did they patch the food store?
I was glad to be apart of this but, I really didnt like getting my cooking cape wet nor all of you standing on my back.
@@Born2Grind question. Can you get the channel membership on mobile or do I need to find a desktop. I must have the axe
@@the.dirt.man. I think you can on mobile I can't remember it will be a join button for members
@@the.dirt.man.It's more expensive on mobile for no benefit to the creator, just get out of bed and get on your computer.
@@_PeachSoda bro my laptop is broken
@@the.dirt.man. go to the library, or borrow a family member's (bonus if their cc is linked)
I did a round of fishing trawler yesterday for the diary. I saw the bit about the xp not scaling and thought it was a weird thing to update. This doesn't make sense, but it does clear up the confusion
I think the moral is:
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
Let a chunkman steal all your fish, and you waste 6 hours and end up as a rock in a Hanannie video.
Lmao
😂
shout out the the guy who immediately had the collective punishment war crime on deck, playing runescape from his office at The Hague, you’re a real one
That was me. Lmao.
The editing makes it seem quick witted. But I think that was the 3rd time I made that joke in real time.
Always fun to see new ways you abuse totally non-unionized workers
"is it really bug abuse if were the ones being abuse?" it's the little comments like that that make these videos
The only thing that leaked that day was the boat
@@gollem148 haha, that's fine and intentional
I'm glad most of the times I pointed out painfully obvious facts for comedic despair made it in. I'd say it was fun, but doing the oldest and worst minigame in the game outweighs such things.
Wake up babe, the new ̶R̶e̶n̶d̶i̶ Hanannie bug abuse video is out!
thanks for letting us sink the boat once as a treat
This video cured today's sad. Thank you Hannanie for abusing this for our amusement and thank you Editing Hannah for following through ❤
I have wondered since this was added to a newspost why they nerfed the XP from fishing trawler. This is an amazing moment
so this is way jagex fixed a bug in fishing trawler
bro what a classic Runescape scam opener "can I trust you"?
3 videos in the last 5 days? hanannie be grinding.
When I said "Its all in the camera sway," I didnt realize I was enabling the worst visual setting in runescape for the tens of thousands of people who watched the second half of this video.
Im so sorry.
The "we?" at 33:50 killed me
I was glad to be a part of this til the end also highly recommend people to watch Josh's video
I love when the video starts immediately on that lovely strawberry jam music
Computer science nerd here - my theory on the 80k 'limit' is that it isn't intentional. I would bet that as part of logging and trying to do bot detection, they save some information about every xp drop, including the estimated xp per hour based on recent activity.
If the period in which they calculate that estimated xp per hour is shorter than 5 minutes (a fishing trawler run), then as far as the math is concerned, you just made 80k xp in one game tick, so your estimated xp per hour is incredibly high, probably going over the 32bit int or something. It quickly drops down again as it realises that you're not continuously getting those drops on every tick, but it's too late - for a single tick, it was too high for it to handle.
The above is just an example I thought of and is a hell of a stretch, but based on the momentary disconnection (definitely a thread crashing and then a new one taking over the connection), it feels more like an unintentional server-side crash than an intentional xp limit.
Someone else mentioned they might be catching more than 1024 of a single type of fish which is what's causing the crash when they click the fishing net
@@nathanvine7433 ooh that's a good theory, I like that!
If the second 80k+ run was immediately after the first the it seems he got about 110k exp from it.
Went from 126k to 16k and you don't get fishing exp from within the trawler, only looting.
Naah I think that’s more my editing, I went back in the footage to triple check and neither of the times he got xp
It's not the XP since other systems award higher singular xp values, and those systems tend to be pretty copy and paste. It has to be the quantity of fish in the bag. I bet it surpassed an integer value like 1024 or 2048 and the underflow is what killed the xp, since that's calculated after the opening the bag and after counting the fish
Ah, Josh Isn’t Gaming .. my antithesis
hahaahah
So nice of Josh B Gamin to make a special guest appearance
"Do you have any friends that you hate?"
"I can inspire a large crowd of people to do something very stupid for a very long period of time." You'd be very successful in marketing😂
This is so timely because I just spent the entire weekend stoned out of my fucking mind playing fishing trawler while binging kitchen nightmares LMAO
33:48 "we're getting about 300k an hour at this rate" ... "we?🥺"
xD
Thank you for the invite! This was lots of fun. Proud to be a part of Fishing Trawler history
this is why i love osrs so much like community and history
Hanannie: Hey its me, hanannie
Just Hanannie breaking the game casually
mooooom! Hanannie and Ferb are capitalizing on fishing trawler XP!
You've done the impossible and have made a fun and engaging video about fishing trawler, I think that's the main takeaway from this
Congrats on 99 fishing!*
*Some day
18:48 We got him in 4K. Time to change your username Josh "Isn't" Gaming.
"Name one war crime ive done" "collective punishment!"
Thanks for having me! This was really fun to do hahaha
if only this glitch helped me get my fucking angler outfit 1/89
Hahaha hahahhahah 1/24 hahahhhahha sorry
You had me at hoopsnake. You had me. At hoopsnake.
dropping 444 manta rays at 17:36 was one hell of a thing lmao
Hannah, you have many talents! Being funny, making bizarre parts of the game entertaining, being a goblin... Probably kissin'.
"Josh has unrelenting optimism" trueeee. Love the vid, thanks for the laugh!
I'm a game programmer, although not on osrs, and I think the disconnect thing is probably not about the amount of xp, it's probably the way the fish is coded, it probably loops through giving each fish individually, and running through like 2000 iterations of the loop probably triggers like an infinite loop detection, since it should normally only go up to like 40.
a better way to code it would be to just calculate the total fish of each type in advance instead of calculating each fish every iteration through the loop lol
Jagex should drop the Sailing skill and replace it with Swimming instead that looked like a lot of fun
The camera sway actually made me feel sick watching this, had to skip those parts lol
The fact that you got a bunch of people to spend even an hour doing this content is amazing. It is dreadful.
I think that if we have people mass logging out to help one person get fishing exp the skill needs to be looked at lol
Tempoross isn't bad, nor is barb fishing. Honestly not every skill needs to be super fast, some of my most fun has been sitting around and fishing and chatting.
Everyone actively using a xp bug on video laughing about it but I bet if they get the ban hammer the excuse will be the "false" ban accusation 😂
Lmao trust Hannah to abuse fishing only because it isnt woodcutting 😂
Damn, when Hanannie Banannie came to my 99 Fishing party, I should have hit it at Fishing Trawler because she loves Trawler so much!
He*?
I used to LOVE fishing trawler as a kid... had to grind the outfit recently and definitely didn't not love it 😂😂
Is this really a Hanannie video? The workers never tried to unionize (unless you count #SinkTheBoat)
It's 2024, we're megascaling Fishing Trawler
I greatly enjoy your background music Hannah. You have a great taste in music.
PAINT STRAWBERRY JAM MUSIC SPOTTED. Good Choice.
Having gotten to be a cool person on another Hannah video was, as always, a fucking blast
You and your hijinks are a constant nightmare for Jagex lmao.
i was more worried about the mental abuse you put these people through compared to the bug abuse
Hannah turning on camera sway is a war crime
Someone NEEDS to tell chunk Yanille
Despite what Josh would have you believe, this IS gaming!
Great use of -sweatshop labour- the community, proud of y'all.
Should’ve made everyone use the same proxy connection then disconnected it at the last second. Boom forced logouts
I may be vomiting my brains out but at least now I’m vomiting my brains out to a hanannie video
I don't know how you made fishing trawler entertaining, but you did it bro. Fr gg
You woodcut the kraken so technically this was at least 1% woodcutting video
Josh claims that he's a gamer, but idk that I've ever seen him gaming?
YOU DID THIS!
I'm just happy we made Murphy's day (-:
The moral is: "I fucking love space!"
i would gladly watch your next video on fishing
the moral is that you CAN trust them!
this is the best guy to make content
I KNEW ABOUT THIS BUG BEFORE THE VID DROP AND I DIDNT WHEN THINK OF IT BEING A BUG
AHHHHHH
Litterally was getting dizzy watching Hanna on with the waves.
Hannanie is on that video grind 💪🏼
This sounds like XP Waste 😅
WAIT THAT WAS YOU????????
The morel is "hey can I trust you?"
this new sailing skill is lit !
Only thing that matters is minimum requirement and netw being repaired
Trawler is pronounced "troller" and is based on the trolling style of fishing, where you drag a net and catch fish as you go.
EDIT: the w is silent
This guy makes good content
"Is it really bug abuse when we're the one's being abused?"
I love that your icon is your face now!
This guy has some pretty cool content
Make the “I like SPACE” person famous
never forget the BOATI
Dope vid dude
That’s wild they patch fishing trawler and not cox
35:00 "and that is the story...of how I got permabanned, good night everybody!"
1:54 proceeds to make a video about it telling the entire world
Fishing trawler, felt a slight sting when i heard it.
I'm sorry.... doinky sploinky!!?
When I heard him say my name out loud in the video I died lol. So happy to have been a part of this :)
woo feesh