Best Sun Tzu Talents + Guide in Rise of Kingdoms

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • If you're looking to maximize the effectiveness of your Sun Tzu then this guide is for you. Whether you're new to ROK or a veteran player, we'll explore why and how to use Sun Tzu. This updated guide for Sun Tzu shares the very best talents, pairings, skill unlock order, and more.
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    0:00 Sun Tzu Commander Guide
    1:59 Why is Sun Tzu so good?
    3:41 Review of Skills
    7:16 Talent Overview
    7:58 Talents - Sunset and Lost Canyon
    8:47 Talents - Structure Defense
    9:56 Talents - Ark of Osiris Garrison
    10:55 Talents - City Swarm Defense
    11:51 Talents - City Single Rally Defense
    12:42 Talents - Open Field
    14:51 Skill Unlock Order
    15:50 How to Unlock Sun Tzu
    16:27 Sun Tzu Primary vs. Secondary
    17:35 Epic Commander Pairings
    20:31 Epic City Defense Pairings
    21:49 Legendary Commander Pairings
    22:24 When is Tzu better than Martel
    23:40 Conclusions
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Komentáře • 295

  • @Chisgule
    @Chisgule  Před 4 lety +21

    BLUESTACKS ►► Play RoK on your COMPUTER: bstk.me/oszIC4ghy ← SUPPORTS the channel I hope that you enjoyed this video and let me know what you think of the talent builds here in the comments!

    • @Proof99
      @Proof99 Před 2 lety

      I have a question..does the secondary support tree add rage to the primary commander?

    • @johnmichealdepaz6163
      @johnmichealdepaz6163 Před rokem

      Pls sun tzu and Herman best talent

  • @_intzc
    @_intzc Před 3 lety +100

    why did they make me into a game
    -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

  • @leejinsheng5003
    @leejinsheng5003 Před 4 lety +163

    Totally agree that Sun Tzu is the best epic commander. I mostly invest all my universal into him.

    • @leejinsheng5003
      @leejinsheng5003 Před 4 lety +7

      Sometime I invest some into Boudica because she's the second ranked epic commander in my opinion

    • @tomlike1175
      @tomlike1175 Před 4 lety +14

      Lee Jinsheng don’t worry by the time you hit your first kvk you will have at least 2 if not 3 max epics boudica good for barbs/forts but not the open field in my opinion

    • @Idk-xs3sb
      @Idk-xs3sb Před 4 lety

      I dont use my universals on Sun Tzu i have him as a 5/5/5/3

    • @karlodanial3360
      @karlodanial3360 Před 4 lety

      What about osman?

    • @thomasflaye1741
      @thomasflaye1741 Před 4 lety +2

      Make sure he’s at least lv50 too so that he has a high number of troops under his command and has sufficient enough talent points. But epic sculptures get useless after awhile and collect dust like my 700 universal... so don’t worry about making a mistake in which epic to invest in.

  • @DoormanitanBestGanker
    @DoormanitanBestGanker Před 4 lety +77

    My main is Sun Tzu so I remember fighting a Lvl 23 barbarian and The area affect damage Made the 24 come at me

    • @ViperZ6969
      @ViperZ6969 Před 3 lety +3

      And u got double kill

    • @tidodickson2096
      @tidodickson2096 Před 3 lety +2

      Same happened to me

    • @michaeladly1211
      @michaeladly1211 Před 3 lety +7

      i was fighting lvl 3 barbarians and sun tzi hit the lvl 25 one😭😭😂😂😂😂

    • @vandiyc3897
      @vandiyc3897 Před 3 lety +1

      I was rallying lvl 2 fort and skill hit lvl 23 barbarian lol

  • @benb9635
    @benb9635 Před 4 lety +57

    Gotta give you respect for putting in the time to do the time stamps

  • @gabrielo9891
    @gabrielo9891 Před 4 lety +79

    Sun Tzu is a super powerful commander and because of this guide I now know how to use him well as an F2P. Thanks Chisgule!

    • @reinyeradoriuq2733
      @reinyeradoriuq2733 Před 4 lety +17

      This sounds scripted, not kidding

    • @gabrielo9891
      @gabrielo9891 Před 4 lety +2

      reinyer adoriuq lol

    • @ziyadpepe6291
      @ziyadpepe6291 Před 4 lety

      @@reinyeradoriuq2733 lol

    • @androgames7493
      @androgames7493 Před 4 lety +1

      @@gabrielo9891 hey I picked Germany and I got harmen and now he is maxed out what I should max next to paring with harmen
      Should it be Osman or sun tzu

    • @gabrielo9891
      @gabrielo9891 Před 4 lety

      andro games I prefer sun Tzu but Joan of arc and Osman are also great choices

  • @discostuh211
    @discostuh211 Před 4 lety +16

    That Martel and Sun Tzu section at the end was extremely useful top tip. Iv got CM 5511 I think but have been using him secondary on the wall. Will try switching from now on and dodge the 🔥

  • @bertolwong9109
    @bertolwong9109 Před 3 lety

    Smashing the other content creators, clear, concise and easy to follow. The path to victory is the Chisgule way.

  • @Alleellaa
    @Alleellaa Před 3 měsíci

    I love your enthusiasm. Makes these videos fun to watch 😊

  • @johnmarshall3175
    @johnmarshall3175 Před 4 lety +5

    Another great vid, thank you chisgule! I think its worth noting for city defense especially for early game / f2p its better to shield the city than to defend as a city garrison. So that may suggest that using Sun in the open field in the early game is more effective until later on.

  • @semihaydin7368
    @semihaydin7368 Před 3 lety +4

    You are working so much for us. 88k sub is not fair. You are definetely deserve more sub.

  • @VictorPham_
    @VictorPham_ Před 4 lety +2

    I remember watching your old sun Tzu video Hahaha wow.. Your reviews and overall quality of your videos have been exponentially better

  • @IsaacKFTam
    @IsaacKFTam Před 3 lety +3

    Wow, I'm lucky! I was going for open field and found out that all of my talents were in the right place!

  • @zeustha
    @zeustha Před 4 lety +5

    No dislikes? Shows how amazing you are

  • @Stavrose85
    @Stavrose85 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for all the efforts and help you provide to help everyone out!

  • @akilank693
    @akilank693 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you so much chis....
    Your commander guides are really helpful for a f2p player to be in right path in this game.... Hope I'll soon migrate to your kingdom 😁

  • @doorppily8791
    @doorppily8791 Před 3 lety +3

    ill start with this commander i wont regret investing

  • @ziyadpepe6291
    @ziyadpepe6291 Před 4 lety +5

    good job re-focusing on Epic commanders.. do more, do (Belisarius) next and how i can get maximum speed of him🌹🌹

  • @aryanbirajdar8314
    @aryanbirajdar8314 Před 4 lety +3

    Just got sun tzu and I am very excited to start building him
    Love your videos

  • @EmilChristensenHeaton
    @EmilChristensenHeaton Před 4 lety

    Chisgule Thanks for your amazing guides as always you are the Best ! :)

  • @joephilosophy1589
    @joephilosophy1589 Před 4 lety +1

    Love these updated commander guides, u should do Richard next!

  • @danielhayward7925
    @danielhayward7925 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for all of these videos

  • @navinarwal69
    @navinarwal69 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the vid chis u always post the best content 🔥

  • @teddygram4744
    @teddygram4744 Před 4 lety

    Guides that help you get value, AND smash your enemies??????? Amazing

  • @hannaryna
    @hannaryna Před 4 lety

    super great video.. tq for all those tips!!

  • @sharpiezjuju7056
    @sharpiezjuju7056 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice video! I’m SharpiezJuJu from the game! Love your channel I’ve watched a couple vids and they’re super helpful! Thx

  • @jaeinn2820
    @jaeinn2820 Před 4 lety +24

    Amazing! I was always wondering about Sun Tzu and I was going to ask on today’s video about him but hey!
    Could we get an updated one for Joan of Arc (if there is one, I’m sorry, I haven’t seen it! I will look for it).
    I love your videos Chisgule, keep it up!

  • @lilwaynebeastmode
    @lilwaynebeastmode Před 3 lety +3

    honestly love watching these videos they are so god damn specific and put together recommending you to everyone in my allience

  • @mothlamp7720
    @mothlamp7720 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey, Chis! Nice vid as usual :) Will you be covering LK75 tomorrow? Pass 4 will be opening in maybe the biggest kvk2 to date :D

  • @iftikharhassanshah6947

    Great video as always

  • @loveking4797
    @loveking4797 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks bro 💯

  • @kristofferchandra3215
    @kristofferchandra3215 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Chisgule, super awesome contents btw, was binge watching u the whole week lol. So im very very new at this game and was wondering how do i choose which build i want? Or is there a better build for new players?

  • @alphawatts3300
    @alphawatts3300 Před 3 lety

    NGL youre the only RoK youtuber I watch

  • @jawntanamo_bae
    @jawntanamo_bae Před 4 lety +1

    I’ve been using Sun/Charles because I don’t have Richard and even though my Charles is only 5300 it’s still putting in work in open field

  • @iansoyi4881
    @iansoyi4881 Před 4 lety +1

    Love your vids!!

  • @thorodinson9511
    @thorodinson9511 Před 4 lety +2

    My first starting commander was Kusunoki but when the event giving epic sculpts I started with sun tzu he is so legendary!
    Thank you again Chisgule I was waiting for this video for a long time!! 😎😱

  • @malseed237
    @malseed237 Před 4 lety +2

    Just expertised him yesterday. He's totally worth it.

  • @garggamer8613
    @garggamer8613 Před 4 lety

    I just was hoping to find a good vid on him for jumping in rok

  • @luispaz1254
    @luispaz1254 Před 4 lety +1

    Could you make a new one of these videos on Joan of Arc? Because that would be great.

  • @rezo6944
    @rezo6944 Před 4 lety +1

    Defended my city against a 25m as a 15m with 2131 charles and 5-5-5-2 sun tzu. The man is godly

  • @stephanblijleven8189
    @stephanblijleven8189 Před 2 lety

    Hey, i am super new to rise of kingdoms and i do enjoy watching your vids they do help... kind of? You most of the time talk about 5M power or like you can just get every commander whenever you want. I got him from the campaign sculptures and i wanna use a strong epic. Tho i don't feel like he is good to me because i am not being attacked and if i am being attacked i rather use a shield. Rn i am 500k and only using boudica cuz her exp gain is INSANE and i use her actively.

  • @sebastienmalherbe184
    @sebastienmalherbe184 Před 3 lety

    hey Chisgule. Love your contents! I would on that one and and several others call your attention to something missing, according to me, in your talent order you suggest. Most players are Talenting him slowly in the early game while having not enough troops to fill a full Infantry march, for that reason don't you think it s way more efficient to start by feeding the skill tree before putting too much points in the inf tree? ( i go pick Undying fury cause i am a rage addict)

  • @mikojocson5484
    @mikojocson5484 Před 4 lety +21

    Pls, Chisule do Mehmed 🥺🥺

  • @just4memes409
    @just4memes409 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello. I'm newbie and i like to see your videos, they are very informative. The thing I find confusing is that your words seems contradict yours. For example, "Sun Tzu should be the secondary for legendary" then later on you tell it doesn't really matter which is which. btw i love your content you get yourself a subscriber :)

    • @LdxArke
      @LdxArke Před 3 lety

      Typically, you want to use the higher level commander as the primary. And since sun tzu is easier to level up, he should be the primary until your legendary commanders are higher.
      You want to use a legendary as soon as possible though, because people are more likely to focus a sun tzu primary in the field than say a richard or alex.

  • @desfrisalim7577
    @desfrisalim7577 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Cis next kusonoki talent tree ^_^

  • @malseed237
    @malseed237 Před 4 lety +2

    Chis, what's the best tree for an f2p running a generalized Sun Tzu? Like if I use him on the wall and open field. Like a mix

  • @ageofblight754
    @ageofblight754 Před 2 lety

    One prob I see with aoe for barbs is if you hit ones that can wreck you or non of them are close enough together due to spread

  • @Ticadakusable
    @Ticadakusable Před 4 lety +4

    Great updated guide. As a F2P my main issue on all marches is tankiness. No Richard and a Martel with 5-2- - -. What is your main suggestion to add tankiness to any pair (especially cavalry is hard to keep alive)

    • @Chisgule
      @Chisgule  Před 4 lety +2

      Health and defense go a long way toward that especially if you can get it from equipment and talents

    • @jawntanamo_bae
      @jawntanamo_bae Před 4 lety

      I been using martel secondary and even at only 5300 it still puts in work

  • @mrrelyes
    @mrrelyes Před 3 lety

    thnx for the video how about Sun Tzu / Richard combo ?

  • @GameInOne
    @GameInOne Před 3 lety +1

    City hall 9(tomorrow 10) I have put all my points on his garrison and using him as primary commander *_*

  • @deropanplays1194
    @deropanplays1194 Před 3 lety

    chisgule can you make an updated tree build for charles martel? please💪

  • @mohmat7042
    @mohmat7042 Před 4 lety

    Im using your advices and im smashing t4 enemies with t3 😁😁😁😁

  • @doey1984
    @doey1984 Před 4 lety +3

    Do the passive skills of the secondary commander apply to the troops? if yes does it stack with the primary commander or it's only 50%? cause somebody told me the passive will be half if it's in a rally as secondary.

    • @doey1984
      @doey1984 Před 4 lety

      @jeff pentagon Thanks for the explanations and examples! I really appreciate it

  • @MomenKhaiti
    @MomenKhaiti Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for the great video. I would love to see a video made on Aethelflaed to review if she's still good in 2020 :)

  • @jorkeenaldom3213
    @jorkeenaldom3213 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you show sun tzu and Charles Martel talent combo please. In battle field

  • @trininatsu9352
    @trininatsu9352 Před 4 lety

    I have a max sun tzu on 2 cities which uses one of talent build for city garrison an held out shadow legion hell level 25 with hermann as secondary.

  • @kelvinkoo-cg2cx
    @kelvinkoo-cg2cx Před 3 lety +1

    I started with him

  • @alexmascovici9923
    @alexmascovici9923 Před 4 lety

    In the SL event, which build is better for defending the city? I ask that because from the wave 20 or so, your city starts to be swarm, especially when you are under 30 mil power. Is the 2nd build better and kills the units before the next wave comes or the first build should be used?

  • @se7enfoot
    @se7enfoot Před 4 lety +1

    I use Kusonoki with Charels as secondary

  • @andrewyau9279
    @andrewyau9279 Před 4 lety

    Can you do an epic commander vs an epic commander using a sample size of 1000 troops? Example Sun Tzu vs. Scipio

  • @XioryGaming
    @XioryGaming Před 4 lety +1

    Hey chis after baudica sunztu and joan what is a good epic investment?

  • @markbourne3334
    @markbourne3334 Před 4 lety

    I think chis is a sales man

  • @mikojocson5484
    @mikojocson5484 Před 4 lety +2

    This is my favorite commander in epic i invest him so much❤

  • @ricardolujan4372
    @ricardolujan4372 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Chisgule, you have helped me a lot to be great at this game. But one concern with Sun T, can you respond? ROK changed skill levels for Sun T. Now (Feb of 2022) Sun T 1st skill is 3 targets and max 450, not 5 targets and 800 damage. not sure why they changed it. Maybe it was because he was too good for epic and down graded him. am I missing something? are they doing this to other commanders that were great, but maybe not so great after ROK changes things? love to hear your thoughts... Thank you again for your great content!

    • @what8219
      @what8219 Před 2 lety

      The 800 damage and 5 targets are for his expertise

  • @joshuadellovaaquino
    @joshuadellovaaquino Před 4 lety +1

    Hi. Chisgule.. I've been watching your videos everyday, and most of your content many time's and it helps me a lot . Thank you for that.. But you are repeating it all over in over.
    Why don't you try younger KD?
    You know, to Help other f2p in much younger K.D. ?

  • @anyolith8447
    @anyolith8447 Před 4 lety +1

    So I do have a question regarding pairing Sun tzu with Minamoto
    If I wanted to rally Forts with Minamoto (Primary) and Sun Tzu would that technically be better then Minamoto (Primary) and Cao Cao?
    I am at an early stage of the game so my cao cao is only like lvl 20ish and Sun Tzu is too

  • @shadowwolf618
    @shadowwolf618 Před 4 lety +5

    can you make a guide on how to score personal points on the KVK?

  • @bobbob1551
    @bobbob1551 Před rokem

    Would sun tzu primary and aethel secondary be any good or would you suggest a different pairing for pvp and if you had to choose between any of those pairs for pvp who would it be and what primary and secondary

  • @pl4987
    @pl4987 Před 4 lety

    hi. for f2p player what is the suggested build and use sun tzu as primary or secondary?

  • @Xtrune
    @Xtrune Před 3 lety +8

    “Whatever you do, do not reveal all your secrets in a CZcams video, you fool, you moron”-Sun Tzu Art of War

  • @imrisqix6402
    @imrisqix6402 Před 2 lety

    Will there be an updated sun tsu talent guide or should I just follow your infantry stuff

  • @Proof99
    @Proof99 Před 2 lety

    I want to pare him with Mulan...but am not sure if the support tree would help sun as the primary there's also the speed boost for Mulan as primary from the support tree

  • @ViperZ6969
    @ViperZ6969 Před 3 lety

    I think skill talent is good for open field cuz he can attack 5 enemy at once with his skill

  • @swigomzmaster220
    @swigomzmaster220 Před 2 lety

    If I’m using Sun Tuz with Eulji, which commander should be the primary and what talent tree should I focus for each of them?

  • @badreedinedjellali1328

    "this guy is fake I don't look like that"
    sun tzu the art of war

  • @MaazAlvi
    @MaazAlvi Před 4 lety +1

    I was talking about sun tzu with my alliance yesterday. Such a coincidence.

  • @PlayboiCarti_IsKing
    @PlayboiCarti_IsKing Před 2 lety +1

    Is Sun Tzu and Joan of Arc a good combo, right now I’m going for Scipio for my Joan of Arc combo but I heard Sun Tzu might be good

  • @talha_05
    @talha_05 Před 3 lety

    Baibars/ suntzu or baibars/minamoto for quick attacks on field, attacking resource gatherings?

  • @jirielrantayo7609
    @jirielrantayo7609 Před 4 lety +1

    I will make the open field talent tree

  • @algodondeazucar3396
    @algodondeazucar3396 Před 2 lety

    Which build can I use alongside Osman as the primary commander to make the most brutal damage?

  • @timothycookii1234
    @timothycookii1234 Před 4 lety

    Eulji has anti swarm 4th skill. I use sun / eulji with success.

  • @andrewfehr7544
    @andrewfehr7544 Před 4 lety

    Would that city defence tree be good for shadow legion to?

  • @ronash.a
    @ronash.a Před 2 lety

    I use suntzu and Richard I, is this good? I wanted to go for more of a tanky damage kinda thing. I need opinions

  • @ZahidHasan19711
    @ZahidHasan19711 Před 3 lety

    💗

  • @IM-fw8sv
    @IM-fw8sv Před 3 lety

    Hello bro chisgule. Im a beginner what talents should i use the open field or garrison . Im confuse. Thank you in advance.

  • @lolz8143
    @lolz8143 Před 4 lety

    Hello Chisgule, who would you recommend as a primary? Level 60 maxed Sun Tzu or 5511 Richard. We are in KVK 1 now in my kingdom. Thanks a lot, stay awesome!

    • @Chisgule
      @Chisgule  Před 4 lety

      Open field I’d say Richard

  • @rebellionofindia43
    @rebellionofindia43 Před 3 lety

    Hi dude why u didn't go for full garrison tree for def I am having t4 and doing so is it OK

  • @allie4867
    @allie4867 Před 4 lety

    I watched an earlier video and i didnt understand why you once said "expertise Boudica first" when in every video you pretty much rate sun tzu at the top

    • @jiggsle
      @jiggsle Před 4 lety +1

      It's probably because Boudica is a peacekeeping commander and has an XP bonus that can help level up whoever you will pair her with.

  • @msrpieces4656
    @msrpieces4656 Před 4 lety

    Hello chisgule gaming

  • @hankschrader2346
    @hankschrader2346 Před 3 lety

    Do not cut the bottom sugar cane
    -Sun Tzu, Art Of War

  • @collinthewhite
    @collinthewhite Před 4 lety +2

    mini YSG

  • @March-of-Time
    @March-of-Time Před 4 lety

    "You have fun smashing the kingdom..." We will thanks to all these guides!

  • @rebelgames2546
    @rebelgames2546 Před 3 lety +1

    What is troop skill dmage?

  • @maxchau7035
    @maxchau7035 Před 4 lety

    Chisgule I’d like to ask a question. If my city were to take an Attila rally, should I use sun tzu or Richard primary? The former has a skill tree while the latter is better at defense. So I’m perplexed when choosing between the two. This is similar to choosing whether Charles Martel or Constantine primary as garrison. Thank you.

    • @user-wy1yb7zj1j
      @user-wy1yb7zj1j Před 4 lety

      Max Chau just suffer or use Constantine with charles

    • @maxchau7035
      @maxchau7035 Před 4 lety

      『。 Of course I know. But I’m a f2p player, and I’ve never taken a rally myself. I’m just asking if Richard primary or Sun Tzu primary gives better results. I understand the final outcome won’t be good. I just want to experience the intensity of war.

  • @edrianwick
    @edrianwick Před 3 lety

    First i played with Boutica but then i switched to china and they gave me sun tzu, but i barely have a week playing. What should I use Sun Tzu for?

  • @mihirabbas7730
    @mihirabbas7730 Před 3 lety

    Is sun Tzu good as a primary or secondary commander irrelevant to whom you pair him with??

  • @bomboclat8903
    @bomboclat8903 Před 3 lety

    Hey Chisgule! I don't know if you'll see this but its worth a try. Im a low spender and currently have a Sun Tzu (5533) with a Eulji (5132). Im looking for a legendary pairing for Sun, and im torn between Richard/Charles/YSG. What would you suggest is best for the current "meta". Also, thinking of Alexander but its too early (day 29) in our kingdom. Thanks ur vids helped a ton, im 2.5mil in a top 5 alliance on the first account!

    • @Chisgule
      @Chisgule  Před 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/J_1OM4pw34c/video.html should answer your question.

    • @bomboclat8903
      @bomboclat8903 Před 3 lety

      @@Chisgule Thanks alot!

  • @Jonathan.Lolohea
    @Jonathan.Lolohea Před 4 lety

    At what point should I use El Cid over Herman?

  • @rebelgames2546
    @rebelgames2546 Před 3 lety

    Watchtower atack is amazing why do you keep leaving it out?

  • @zeustha
    @zeustha Před 4 lety

    I was basically among the top to expertise sun tzu even though I was ftp, and I was soooo good