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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Today I follow up on my @WorldofTanksModernArmor Era 3 is a Complete JOKE video with my solutions and suggestion that could resolve the issues I raised previously.
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - A Word to WarGaming
07:06 - 1. Spawn Location Changes
09:09 - 2. Changes to Mega Premiums
11:05 - 3. Health of the Digital Ecosystem
13:28 - 4. Maps for Era 3 (Cold War in General)
15:15 - Outro
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Riki , thank you for trying to get through to WG , five years ago an extremely popular CZcamsr that was trying to help WG with in game issues became a CC in hopes of making improvements and to tell the truth of how the community felt about the game with his over 15k followers , in the end he was removed from the CC program for his efforts to only fall on deaf ears 😢
Minto was the closest thing we had as a community manager for WG and was in direct contact with as many content providers as he could, one of the reasons we have gold barrel marks is because of that popular CZcamsr and Minto's collaboration.
I understand WG is a business but they also need to understand the community is who pays their bills and with player frustrations making them leave is just biting the hand that feeds you😅
I hope your efforts are rewarded and good changes will prevail but from previous observations of my involvement in the community I would say the chances are slim for positive results.
So many great cc’s have left the game, I’ve been at it for 9 years and saw many leave frustrated and in some cases quite angry. Seeing the game deteriorate into the mess it is today is depressing, but it’s not worth the effort to try and change these greedy corporate practices. It’s all about making money and these clowns haven’t a clue imo.
Good to see how some veteran players are still active in the WoT community! I start playing it 4 months before Cold War was launched. WW2 was for me very difficult at the beginning, to figure out the game and all its mechanics like spotting or concealment. Sometimes you did learn things the hard way but at the end it made the reward just much and much better.
Cold War is a whole other story though, i mean at the beginning it seems to be very well balanced because there were only few tanks to play with. But it was fun and challeging.
But to compare it with ww2 the result or reward its less satisfying, because i think (wich is my own opinion) the way WG now rewards players with ERA 3 tanks or the way you can buy these prototype tanks is way more productive for business then players have to earn it wich takes some time ofcourse. I remember Rike uploaded a video where he had a 1 on 1 chat with a lead game developer of WG, and the way he explained things on the game like mechanics and all that seems te be a lot of BS now i think. he talked about the time between enemy tanks should reached each other to be spotted was around 15 seconds or so…? Now with the new map Berlin on CW its 2, 3 seconds max. I played a battle that took 2 minutes and 23 seconds, so the more battles can be played the more people could spend on them.
Oops, forgot one more thing i see. Losing 13 games out of 15 with the enemy team has 10+ tanks left is a good example of unbalanced teams or wolfpacking. So i guess WG has lots of clowns working for them. 🎉
Regarding 477, I was actually told by one of my super-tester friends that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the super testers begged and pleaded with WG that releasing it as is (its current state) would break ERA 3. They obviously didn't listen.
I’m surprised they still even use the Super Test. I thought they got rid of them after 6.0
Agreed. The 477’s make ERA 3 unplayable. The dominant FV4211 has weak spots and strategy can defeat them. Molots are damn near invincible.
molots can be beaten easily they are weak to hesh , he, heat. back half is weak
Okay, take an M1A2 one on one against the Molot and beat it “easily.”
@@charleswilson9697 yes you can hit them with high explosives but you're also going to be pecking at them hitting them for three or four hundred each time by the time you get a third of their health off you're going to be dead
I miss back when WOT was a game about skill and knowledge. When tanks had weakspots that you'd either have to aim for, or make difficult for your opponent to hit. When strategies like side-scraping and 'dancing the hull' were viable. When you could play any of the now 600+ tanks and make it work if you knew how to use them, as opposed to only these 5 tanks deciding the course of battle because they're just better than everything else. When the FV215b/T110E3 weren't entirely overshadowed by the simply superior now Super Conqueror/T110E4. When if there was a tank you would struggle to pen, you could outsmart it by drawing it out via repositioning or using HE to chip at their health until they moved, and then fight it when it's at the disadvantage, instead of just pressing A to load premium ammo. Back when the maps were all distinct, visually appealing, but required strategy, and yet were plentiful enough to stretch your legs and have plenty of space to move, as opposed to just having 2 corridors to get stuck in and everywhere else is no mans land. I miss when you had to earn the tanks you wanted and the premiums you bought were to compliment the tech tree tanks, but never overpower them, instead of them pumping out idiot-proof cash-grabs, or just handing out hyper-alphas basically for free. I miss back when the only tank to complain about being overpowered was the Panzer V/IV. Back when the tiers started at tier 1 to give new players somewhere simple to start, instead of starting at tier 3, and don't even get me started on cold wars era 1. Hyper-alphas have fucked that up for me too.
In fact the only thing I don't really miss was being orbitally bombarded in a single moment back to the garage.
I think it's all on map design for cold war. The maps need more blind spots and haul down positions as well as utilizing terrains that would slow down the speed of the tanks. This is what keeps ww2 from wolfpacking I feel. With true vision we need better blind spots better ridge lines objects that doesn't get destroyed. Halloween version of prokovaka is a good example of this. But my biggest wish is give us a setting to choose between team destruction and Base capture. Base cappers ruin a lot of games for me with both teams still have 10 to 12 tanks on both teams and someone caps.
You must play with a lot bots because I have games all the time where we will be down on tanks or being surrounded and should be capping but in reality we are just having a circle jerk around the flag and not actually capping in my experience bots are the only ones that cap yes sometimes a light will rush the flag but that's rare and normally it won't survive very long
@@jethrolionheart182dukla pass almost always ends up in one of the 2 teams capping
@@samuelesebastiani6790 Dukla pass isn't Cold War real players rarely cap in Cold War
Also, for CW, the length of the game. Average match it’s like 5 minutes. You wait in the lobby for 30sec-1min 30 sec or 2 (when are not so many players) and the game ends in 3-5 minutes. For what purpose? To evaluate ho’s the fastest team to end the match?
2. They need to change the caping time (for example: friendly or enemy team caping for no reason in the forst half of the game) - there is no tactical reason, besides when your team is losing.
I'd argue the #1 reason for lemmings in era 3 is due to the hp scaling overtaking dpm scaling. You simply do not have any meaningful impact by yourself or even in small groups in damage compared to the massive hp pools barreling down upon you. Thus the largest number of tanks will always come out on top as they have the biggest advantage in survivability.
Add the high speed mbts to that equation.
I think lowering HP and speed will significantly help with lemmings more strategy involved.
Nice one Riki, some very valid points. There is no easy fix or one shot solutions to the state of the game at the moment. One idea you mentioned about not giving pinnacle tier takes to new players is all well and good, make them grind for one and learn their craft. The problem is that all the Unicom’s will grind that quicker than us mere mortals, thus making the swing with the best vehicles only for those with the most skill. That would absolutely shaft matchmaking I’m afraid. It would possibly be even worse than it is already. Good to open up discussion within the community though, let’s hope WG doesn’t chop the head off of those who dare to call them out. We need good strong CC’s within the game to get us noticed. Thanks for at least highlighting the issues at hand.
It would be nice to see all the CC's come together on a video and have a debate on the state of the game and if a wargaming developer would join that would be fantastic.
While all suggestions should be invited, this one will put the developer in a position we normally would call a "crossfire".
Agree on all accounts, nice one Riki 😉👌
Sorry I forgot 2 things, I think like this, time is money. With this in mind, look at the American technology tree, light tanks, the top one is the Bradley, right?
Why on earth should I be wasting time and money on premium days and boosters, to make the technology tree up to era 3 the top?
If Bradley is in premiums in era 2, which is much more fun than in era 3, and sooner or later he will appear again in purchase packs. Does not make sense.
The other is, this morning I was playing as always Cold War Co Op in era 3, we were 7 or 8 players, and what happened was the stupidity of Wolf Packing, I thought well I'm not going to be alone I followed with the others I went faster and got first to the hill where everyone was going, I saw the foes I started to look for the "sweet spot to shoot at", it wasn't 1 or 2, there were 3 of the team coming from behind with the "hunger" for silver or xp, and they give me 1 bomp from behind, they didn't even care I was there, they were just watching the foes and the "blim blim. As a result, my tank dropped a little, I missed the shot, I couldn't retreat as they were all leaning against the back of my Tank, forward there was an open field and about 6 or 7 foes. Can you imagine what happened, GAME OVER.
Is it worth trying to do things correctly?
Or try to learn something?
Do we have time for it?
NOP!!!!
😒🤢🤮
To add to your suggestions for maps, how about more Cold War themed maps? Maps like Mannheim, Fredvang,and Cao Bang for example are super fun but have that Cold War theme to them that’s very fitting. Something like Chernobyl would be a cool Cold War map theme, being able to drive amongst the abandoned apartments as cover and have some open areas like the theme park Ferris wheel parking lot. Or a map based on the Chechnya/Balkans region from the late 80s wars? I just hate playing Cold War tanks on WW2 themed maps.
Finally stopped playing 5 months ago. Feel better off for it. They have proven for years they barely listen, and they just care about short term gains from sales of overpowered as fuck premiums.
At this point the short-term gains are probably the only things that have kept this game from going completely under since 6.0. I honestly believe it’s far, far too late to make significant changes.
@@jacobsekela8691me too, it’s going to hell quickly. I figure one of these days I’ll log on to only see a blank “out of business” screen.
I agree and to add on to what @jacobsekela8691 said. There's just gotta be a new/ skeleton crew working on WoTC now. It takes too long to implement anything. Every question from every stream is met with, "we'll look into it" nothing gets done in a timely manner. 3 years ago 6.0 happened, how many maps are still MIA? This game's been out for a decade now, unexcusable!
Era 3 is either tank destroyer noobs who sit in spawn or it’s Mario karts with the light tanks or super fast tank destroyers
Good video. Some of your solutions appear to be good. Spawn splitting. But, there is a problem with nerfing PREMIUM tanks. Remember the Armadillo ? WG refunded players due to quite severe degradation of the tanks original performance,quite rightly too.
When CW started I thought it was BETTER by far than the WW2 mode, suffering from (inmy opinion) way too many CITY maps and Artillery and tanks that can ONE SHOT players back to garage. In a team game with NO respawns and 3 man platoons thatvalways seemed nonsense to me. But CW strted well GREAT maps , no arty,no missiles and no yolo lights. But, WG has not made any more CW specific maps. Just re releasing OLD ww2 maps. mountain pass a total waste of time, those recent city maps, with all the smoke and fast firing 20mm cannon OVERHEATS my xbox series x and slows the framerate ! Also a waste of time in Era 3 more than 1&2 . But now they have put HIMMELSDORF back into CW ? WHY.
WG needs to make maps like they DID at the start of console 2014. Sand River, Malinovka, but BIGGER prokarovka but BIGGER .
I don't know a solution to era 3, but I do know I have stopped short of completing the grinds of ALL era 3 tanks that are the pinnacle. It just seems poinless to throw awy 10 million silver plus LOADS OF MY time to be in 5 min or less matches to get 200xp on a super tank that I get to drive around a small map with a wolfpack or be MORE OFTEN victim of said wolfpack in a 14 to 0 defeat. Its really not ANY FUN AT ALL.
I strted playing WOT in 2014 becuse it WAS fun. Now It Can be fun in Era 1 ( but that got spoiled with the M41 and the 4005).
Era 2 is on the change now becuse I'm getting more and more platoon games where there is a Hunter Killer pack of 7 plus tanks dominating some games. And it seems the majoroty of games are on ww2 maps that are not even fun in WW2 over tier 4 like mountain pass and Himmelsdorf and a few others.
Wg may as well put malinovka and prokorovka and lakeville and arctic region bacck into the CW map rotation at least they are really good maps.
I really wish WG would fix the game, I just dont know how. My guess is that the real problem is very simple.
Its ENDLESS POWER CREEP. Try your old premiums in tier 8. Or any era really .tanks that formerly we good are now just cannonfodder.
I remember when I got blind one-shotted by an arty one year ago in E75 while moving. Just 20 secs from start! Good thing now no arty can do that again.
Buuut then again AVRE and Ruthless 😢😢
Please do not put a era 3/tier 10 tank in the season pass ever again...
Meanwhile WG: WE'LL PUT BOTH IN A SINGE SEASON PASS 😂
Riki - thanks so much for this video. It puts voice to the concerns of the community, and what you're saying definitely applies to both CW and WWII...Awesome! Fingers crossed...
Very well done !!. Thank you.
Great vid again Riki. Hopefully your considered thoughts and possible solutions will not fall on the traditional wargaming deaf ears. Another possible solution if wargaming refuse to move away from releasing op premiums, is to change the mm to split premiums from tech tree tanks. It will increase waiting times, but then they could leave the ridiculous premiums together in a new mode called "cash grab mode" or "sh*tshow mode". Another quick fix is cut the speed of all the premiums by 1/2 thus restricting their impact.
The maps are too small they should make them bigger again
So true Riki. It’s made me sad and angry when after grinding whole line for M1A2 or any other thank you basically not standing a chance against Object 477. Shouldn’t be like that. But it is what it is.WG will ignore you that’s for sure because money is talking. And it’s very easy to see like this game is dying. Month after month we see less players, longer queues or more bots.
Some people have a life a date girls so not everyone can play 19 hours a day....
Thanks riki.
WG just want money, players are nothing for them.
Herd mentality almost defines cold war entirely. The game mode is simply more and more being set up to only be successful when you are in a massive swarm. And a huge part of this is lack of armor, high HP, and high mobility.
Been playing the game for 9 years since release and I don't like to say we've been here before but... the first free Tier X premium given out to all players irrespective of being able to earn the right to play at Tier X was the Obj 279e and that kicked off exactly the same discussion across Console and PC.
Like we have to square the so called tank triangle of speed, armour and the gun - we have to help WG square the triangle of A. gameplay, B. content/development (attracting new players/keeping existing players) and C. making money (to fund the game and WG)
The way I see it, the suggestions laid out would look as follows
1 Spawn locations - great for A
2 Restricting who can have mega premiums - great for A but I see this as a negative for B and C (hence why I don't think WG would implement your suggestion)
3 a Nerf the era 3 premiums - this rightly creates a stink for the players who have bought these
b buff the Tech Tree Era 3 tanks - absolutely doable and that would be great for A and B BUT WG strategy to sell a clearly desirable premium to newcomers, so I think in their mind this would mean those premiums become less desirable, reduce sales and therefore not good for C
4 New maps - requires development time = cost, so needs to be funded by C
This is a free to play game and as someone who has stopped spending real money on this game for a good 5+ years, I feel there needs to be a bit more of a give and then take approach - how can we come up with an approach whereby players can feel they can willing invest monetarily in the game and in return get the QoL and gameplay issues this discussion has highlighted? I've thought about WG inserting advertising in the garage and waiting lobby screens, maybe requiring everyone to buy premium time (and no longer using accumulated gold) rather than selling mega premiums that fundamentally impact gameplay. Was trying to think of what other games do - FIFA, CoD, Fortnite, GTA Online, etc. Don't really have experience of any of them - maybe there is something there to think about.
for the map movement issues i feel like war gaming could use the weather to slow down tanks someone Slapfish i think suggested that on dessert maps we have sand storms that greatest reduce the vision (negating across the map true vision spotting) things like this would really help with the games pace. i also would love the idea of long term cold war contracts like you mentioned give us like 3 months with hard challenges and if we complete it we can win a 292 or 477a level era 3 premium
how to change arti view like the one in the vedio??
It's a pain to grind any tech tree tanks right now with all the premiums in game since a lot of the tech tree can't hold up against the prems
Good video. Valid points and suggestions.
Thing is I think it’s got to a point with the flood of high alpha yolo tanks that there’s no going back. I loved it back in the day when the scary tanks were the likes of the T57. Yes they could really hurt you but they had massive weaknesses. For the past three days it’s been awful playing this game, I don’t know it’s it’s lack of skill from people who have only got high tier premiums through buying or for free but my god it’s painful. Holding a flank with me and two to three other people only to watch our other flank get with seven or so tanks get decimated within a minute or two by inferior numbers. Either due to lack of knowledge or tank with massive auto aim damage is soul destroying. I class myself as a skilled player, but to get pushed by a AVRE player with very little skill hitting me with auto aim knowing there’s nothing I can do about it. I just feel the hole is to deep nor this game to recover as they will not alter premiums because then people will demand refunds or kick up a fuss. Just wish there was a server with the pre light tank patch as I think that’s when WoT was at its best. Also auto aim back then was nowhere near as strong as it is now, I think they need to add a minus accuracy debuff for two seconds after auto aiming.
Now WG is giving away the 477A in the Celebration War Chests. So more will be coming into the game.
They need to listen to us
I remember that developer from Tankfest, wow, i was honestly shocked seeing how he was saying that community complains a lot and saying that we are the bad guys, and then they introduce Molot :)
I do agree in part. Ive started to play WW2 again and the games are less frenzied, generally, but frustrations still abound with the +2-2MM. And this is why gamers buy and like the so called top tier O/P tanks. It means they can dish it out rather than being on the receiving end. Personally, i tend to only plat era 3 to boost my silver earnings and the Wiesel gets wheeled out. Personally, i dont think its O/P and TBH its rare to see more then 2 in a game these days.
Also, i suspect you dont speak for the majority of gamers who play WoT and i suspect most of them love playing the 292 or whatever.
Wargaming are in it for the money, its primarily a business. Obviously if gamers start voting with their feet they might change the tanks they supply as rewards. But until that happens nothing will change. It might be broken from your perspective but if it turns a decent profit its not broken from WGs perspective.
Personally the MM is broken for me playing tier 8 tanks in a tier 10 match up. It happens a lot. So why wouldnt i want a tier 10 or Era 3 o/p tank. Im fed up with getting trashed in crappy, weak grinding tanks.
well said. and good suggestions.
I'd love to get my hands on the data and do some good visualisations for them. Feck'n win rate shrim rate.
If an AVRE hits you for 1200 HP and kills your entire crew at the start of a game, you care not a jot if they miss the rest of their shots or go on to lose, you game has been ruined by a broken tank.
My solution to era 3 ready ? Add higher versions to the era 3 tech trees to complete against premiums, M1A3, Merkava 4, leopard 2 pso etc but I agree with wat u said we need balance, I grinded my ass off for my m1a2 and leopard 2a5 fun is 40/60 because of how we have to play era 3
I find it funny that the only CW map you think is good is the map ported from PC's Grand Battles mode. All the best maps are ones mostly untouched from their PC versions.
I wish they would make huge maps. With most tanks hitting 70km the maps seem like fishbowls
Nerf the AVRE lol sincerely someone who owns that OP tank
Preaching the truth Riki, i really hope WG listens to you 🙏🏻🤞🏻
Trouble with the nerf of prem tanks is people have bought them. it’s like buying a Ferrari and then when it goes in for service, they fit a 1.3 engine in it. They need to make sure they are balanced before sale or it’s miss selling.
9 year player who agreed completely with all your points. Ive stopped trying to mark tanks that cant shoot HE or Hesh because of the 477 menace lol
DoNt forget the auto locking with out aiming down sights
The problem is only the vets are pleading with the devleopers to make fixes which is only like 20 percent of the playerbase meanwhile the rest are fine with changes as player population(money flow) is still good enough for wargamin not to take action.
Tbh you see the lemming train meta more and more in Era 2 too. You try to get to a favorable position just to get steamrolled 10:3 in 2 min into the game.
Sure that isn’t an excuse for objectively bad players to be beaten all the time (I would consider myself average at best).
What is really annoying is the over representation of certain tanks. Let’s check era 2 again: whoever team has more FV4005 seems to loose, because those teams tend to be anemic in their movement and just wait to see someone moving.
I play 1 and 2 the most . The 477 and the weasel just made 3 dumb . If they made the weasel detectably huge and made the 477 kill able I’d play more .
Fury use to be a good tank but everytime I use it I'm always the in tier 8 matches with a tier 6 tank. I might as well be playing in a tier 10 match with it since most if not all tier 8's go against tier 10.
They really need to sort out the 477. It’s really put me off Era 3. All my tanks I’m currently working on are in Era 3 and it’s just painful at times when you have a platoon of 477s that just roll over everyone. I’ve seen games go in the bin too when 5-6 tanks are trying to take out one 477 at the same time. While the other team have the time to flank around. They do need to sort out those lemming games too like you say 😂
Well. If era 3 is growing in participation, and I assure you it is, and WOT is selling more tanks for era 3, then everything is "fine" if one's criteria for success or being "fine" is measured by the size of participation and selling tanks.
So I would suggest those who are not happy with Era 3 now do not have the same goals of growing Era 3 participation and related revenue stream the way Wargamming feels it must have. I suspect those goals are required for the profit center known as Wargaming to flourish. In short, your personal participation goals and the goals necessary to grow the business of Wargaming perhaps do not match in the ways you would like.
There are options other than to stop playing. You can adjust to Era 3 by upgrading your tanks or simply doing what WWII lower tiers do when playing against higher tiers...adapt your playstyle to fit the current game and competition. Or, you can find an Era that plays the way you want to play.
I agree that game play in general and definitely in Era 3 is a shit show. After the next season, I'm no longer paying for any season passes. The game is digressing, and wot doesn't care.
Riki bringing down the penetration on the 292 would be fine but if they are going to do that I would like to have armor that actually works and not need to have all protections against being caught on fire only to get shot once and get caught on fire every game also who makes a era 3 heavy tank that has both a large Commander's hatch that's 150 mm of armor all the way around and the turret ring that is also 150 mm of armor I have been killed in this tank with nothing but machine guns all they do is shoot the turret ring and I find it funny that's exactly where the gun will lock onto when they're firing at you
All you have to do is watch the live stream with the developers every Friday to realize that this game is a muppet show 😂😂😂
As im watching this video Im playing era 3 and a riki clan member is on the opposing team in a 477. I hope more of your clan will watch this and take a stand
I would say the player is simply adapting.
@@arthurtennessen9680with their wallet
Yes. Era 3 is very competitive and if you cannot compete with skills and a so-so tank then you might be led to competing with your wallet, and why not, many of the leading players are buying excellent tanks and so you must also compete in Era 3 unless you simply like a challenge and some do. @@slothboi7131
I think unfortunately I might have to play Cold war mode alot less and go back to WW2 unfortunately
🔥🔥🔥🚨🚨🚨fire input. well executed! Videos. Maps armed dead 10 years same shit 🤣
Tier X and Era 3 or foeked .
Most of this applys to era 3 but some of it can be applied to other eras/tiers but I think the maps should be bigger for all these much faster tanks and wg shouldn't be giving away very good, if not op, tanks. This means everyone has a good/op tank that will/has ruined the era or tier. Also if they are introducing higher pen tanks they should probably buff the pen on other lower pen guns. chieftain mk11 and challenger 1 for instance, standard pen is basically useless. And wg rly should listen to the community regarding issues that have arisen after the introduction of a new tank generally tends to be a premium vehicle tho so wg don't really want to nerf it. They should also listen to problems that have been found by the community about the balance of the game e.g. we need a variety of strong, weak, average, etc. tanks but not game breakingly strong or largely underpowered ones. Means game variety is limited so we see the same tanks over and over in each battle. Basically wg needs to listen to the community and make lots of changes to balance the game back out. Nerf some premiums and buff some tech tree tanks. And larger maps for faster tanks with different important areas of the map to fight could stop the one flank yolo problem too. Don't get me wrong I like the game but there are problems that need to be addressed to make it better
The thing about big challenges rewards to get t10/e3 tanks is what plagues pc and that is farming sites or players do the challenge for you for a fee
The game now days is lacking team work as it is and challenges will create more solo and scummy players especially when it comes to kill stealing
I think they shouldn’t stop putting t10 or e3 tanks as a reward but put more of a criteria of getting it like you need to have obtained a tech tree t10 or e3 or to have played 1000 matches
And not to screw the player for not letting em play the tank they obtained through the season they can choose any prem tank that are t8 and below/e2 or below of their choice as a on going rental till they meet the criteria to unlock their tank
As for buying t10/e3 prems then you can’t punish players from buying em they just need more thought put into em of their play style
Nebelburg is great
Fjords has always been trash. Too small in middle unlike pc where lights can actually sit in a bush and spot.
Halfaya pass is garbage. 85% of team goes to middle or south. There was nothing wrong with skorpion pass and I recall players going to all three areas.
Berlin is actually not terrible.
Lemming train is a big issue for ww2. So the idea of splitting the spawns is a good one imo.
Yes giving away tier 10s is stupid. Literally only had to play the 4 seasons in 2019(?) to get a free 279e.
Good video.
The wiesel makes this game into Mario cart.
It is, in its current state a complete joke of a tank, amongst other recent badly thought out ☆bright ideas☆.
Cold War at It's inception, for myself and many others, brought a breath of fresh air into the game.
Here came an idea that brought the game into modern' ish times with the 'hope' of good gameplay.
Tanks that hadn't been nerfed, buffed or otherwise messed up with 'bright' ideas.
But, alas, what's happened? The same S/Show as before.
It's so sad.
I like World of Tanks, the core idea of it anyway .
I've played this game for 8 years now and l still, it's crazy I know, hold out hope that someone, somehow will put things right.
I said this 7 years sgo. Remove auto aim. No more yolos. Or give us equipment that mounts and removes the ability if tanks auto locking us as a punishment we can auto lock anyone also when mounted.
Finally. Another intellectual. I’ve been saying the same thing for a long time as well, auto aim makes literally no sense.
Agreed
I grinded CW for a while. I have all top tier era3 in western , i have also the t72BU , thumper and wiesel. I 2 marked the thumper , not the wiesel, running like a headless chicken is not my thing. After all the OP premium released, i dropped all the thkngs i grinded for and went back to WW2.
No i dont play CW at all, and tier X WW2 is also a mess with Avre, ruthless and all these that players which never grinded a single tier X are running around with. Thay don’t need to know or understanf what armour is , autolock and boom at least 400/500 dmg. That is pointless now to have a maus or a t110e3.
Yeh , kids who come from other games like call of duty or battlefield are happy , they can roll in tanks do damage with no skill and have fun , but the older players who put thousands of hours in the game are leaving, and only casual players remain from time to time , because they will go back to their own favorites games,
Thats why you see bot servers in EU already at midnight. Same for usa server at their time of the day.
And a lot of time , bot are playing better than all the yolo players… thay actually take cover and flank when not stuck doing 360.
I would love for the game to go back before avre( which i own,marked and still hate compared to my FVs) and premium atgms in era3. Time when a brain was needed in top tier gameplay.
Sent from a 2015, 2,2kwn8 player…
I don’t agree with all the suggested Nerfs, agree with bigger maps, different spawns… Some different terrain to possibly limit the speed etc..!
And in other news Era 3 is getting another MBT in the ultimate pass. It's British so it will not have an o.p. broken gun like the Molot and Obj. 292. Finally, WoTConsole has admitted that its time for the maps to have boundaries, and will begin invsetigating that sometime next year.🎉😢
I honestly don't care if they're not going to nerf the 477 , all I really need is the mbt70's pen to be increased to atleast 500 ot 600mm. Just doesn't make any sense for it to be setting in 400mm while 292 and 477 has over 700mm. They had the same gun for christ sake!
All era's and tiers are toxic right now. This is why I always beat a dead horse with bring back war stories where we get a brake from playing with teams. Like today for example 7 matches and 6 of them was lost 1 win out of 7 matches is what makes the game toxic.
After listening to Riki and reading all the comments it is obvious that the player base is not being heard. I agree with the statement Era 3 is awful. WG should rethink the direction they are taking the game.
They don't give a shit about the player base it's all about them selling tanks in the end it's a business
If i have a Premium tank for said nation, why cant I use it to grind said tech tree? Why use premium tanks for the P2W factor, or for silver earn, all nations in the world had tanks, just add them instead of adding premium tanks no one wants, and after a year or 2 you get that tank in the battlepass
I stopped playing my Leopard 2's in Era 3 after 5 enemy Wiesels hit the battle ground in nearly each game. Useless. Era 1 ist still nice to play though.
The idea of a " premium " tank was to be able to buy a tank that wasn't the best but competitive in its level with the added benefit of extra silver or crew training. NOT something that dominates the top tier tanks that players work so long gring through.
The Obj. 447 and the Fn Wiesel are the epitome of PAY TO WIN.
My conclusion is simple, these tanks and others like it bring in revenue. People are willing to buy them, War Gaming will continue to design them that way.
For me the Wiesel was the last straw and the reason I said adios to the game.
I really stop playing this thing,do hell let loose😂
Please also bring up how they are screwing us for Christmas vs PC. We got an overpriced crappy version of an existing tank (old reliable) when PC got that as just a skin and all of their village assets for their holiday stuff we have to pay for to even look at as well as not having the token computer to earn rewards. We literally have the worst version of everything it is grossly unfair and obviously biased. I know I can't be the only one who has noticed this.
Were to start. WG are a contradiction..unlike other companies they have divided core business practices with the same product, WG PC, WG Blitz and WG Console. With PC for example, WG uses a variety of online Community feedback tools. This are actually read by staff assigned to maintain and monitor. What has WG Console done? Closed the Forums which was maintained by WG staff and read by Assigned WG staff. What does WG console have in 2023? Nothing. The offical WG Discord does not have staff assigned to read and respond to any section (it states that all WG staff may respond in their spare time. Spare time! Who has heaps of spare time at work every day?) The Discord is maintained by system bots and non paid community moderators who are obligated follow WG doctrine. WG Console Discord terms and conditions prohibits around 80% of what l would call negative feedback. Any feedback WG is given is heavily filtered. WG has long history of not responding to feedback. One for example is consistent request to "Nerf -Arty". When Arty 2.0 came along the community was thinking, great finally something will be done. What happened? WG buffed arty, the community was dumbfounded , more players left in discust that WG had not listened again to community feedback. What's wrong? We fixed Arty, it's fine now was the response. The community constantly hears "political speech " when WG speaks to or responds to community concerns. Just listen to the language used in the steams and how it does everything but respond to questions (which are already heavily filtered) raised by some community members. I have enjoyed these 2 videos. I hope you continue them and that WG don't give you an " extended vacation " from your community contributor status.
Also they need to nerf derp guns.
still the same problems after 6 months. Wargaming only pretend to listen, but they are not listening.
477, wiesel, 292, stormer 30, ignis and so on needs a fix. Maybe the ww2 and CW needs to be seperated so silver stay in in the mode you earn it, this way all the silver grinders in premiums who just pop into cw to grind massive silver for use in cheap ww2 mode dissapare . Tier X in Ww2 cost 1/3 off a fully upgraded era3 tank.
Wargaming please listen to us
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Absolutely hate dukla pass because of the yoloing but also the capping. I mostly spawn as the northside team and I lose almost everytime because of cap. Nobody but two tanks defend the A line and get absolutely destroyed.
Id suggest a way for cap circles to open after like the first 7-8 minutes into the game or as soos as one of the teams are 8 tanks down so have still 7 tanks left. Probably wont get added anyway, so better keep on dreaming
I agree with you Riki. I stay away from era 3. In fact, I have never even played era 3 because I can not see myself enjoying it in the state it is in at the moment. I own the thumper and 292. I play era 1 and 2 and WW2 for the most part. Al things aside, I do still enjoy WOT console very much.
Era 3 is no use in heavy tanks! They brought in another Weisel like vehicle...I'm just playing Era 1 and 2 for silver build up.
Wargaming don't give a F about this game. Console is just a revenue stream that supports the PC version of the game and it shows. As long as folks buy premium tanks, they will keep rolling them out - no matter how OP they are. Console has been on life support since 6.0 and it will NEVER recover. I feel sorry for new players who are blissfully ignorant to the state of the game. At least Gaijin pretends to care about War Thunder.
If you are saying that only the best players should have the best tanks then i disagree strongly.
If you are saying that tier ten premiums shouldnt really be a thing, that you should have to grind for tt versions then yeah i agree i guess, but careful how much gatekeeping around the best tanks. Are people really mad that there are AVREs *not* being played well? Would they prefer someone like Gambit drove each one? Im not and I wouldnt.
Buff 260 so that both track rotate speed -2sec reload. Spaced armor. Buff pen by 15. APCR prem for increase travel speed. Thanks 😌
What i'd do to certain tanks if i had the power:
477A:
reduce 640mm plate to 320mm
reduce regular pen from 900 to 765
reduce shell velocity from 1980 to 1715
292:
reduce regular pen from 900mm to 720mm
increase reload from 10.3 to 12
reduce shell velocity from 1980 to 1760
Weisel:
reduce premium atgm dmg from 1430 to 1100
reduce top speed from 80 to 70
Jaguar 1:
reduce regular atgm dmg from 1470 to 1200
reduce premium atgm dmg from 1470 to 1000
Thumper:
change class from TD to heavy
increase reload from 10.6 to 12
MBT 70:
increase regular pen from 400 to 670
inccrease HEAT pen from 430 to 750
increase atgm pen from 450 to 800
TCM AGS:
reduce intra clip from 3.5 to 2.7
increase hull traverse from 36 to 40
Stormer 30:
increase 30mm magazine reload from 35.2 to 38
increase atgm magazine reload from 24.5 to 35
reduce premium atgm dmg from 1300 to 1100
IMO most of this rng controlled game is a complete joke but whatever.
And yet again you only trying...
Let me explain please.
For years, before any cold war and major screw up people was saying or I should say beg WGCB to start thinking before they create another problem. Ain't happen. We all know.
What ever you said is mostly right but it's big BUT on the very beginning, non of your suggestions will work. Why? WGCB create sick players base allready and with four patches they will achieve only revenue losses. Look, 18k players with huge luck for few hours if they are lucky. It's simply putting the agony because of the illness they spread. They don't have the man power, imagination and most important permission from WG to do so.
There is no other explanation. The hamster wheel is spinning (everything in digital business) so fast that they are the hamster in this extremely polite sentence. In short?
No one (WG) trust them (WGCB) in the shape and management state to perform well equal in the late past and present.
From player perspective I have to deal with idiots (mostly deves) that have bigger ego than brain and what you saying only proves it.
BTW, you wrong about this map. It has potential but is way too far to be good for era2 or era3. You can clearly see this same pattern of uncertainty to push people play fast/short...
One of the problems is the players. The players want Call of Duty in tank form just run around auto lock and shoot. There is no patience in the game at all. A match is 15 minutes long but most only last 4-5 minutes. CW tanks are to fast period. Splitting the group won't help because the tanks are fast enough to just meet up and yolo together anyway. I think another problem is being able to move commanders and commander perks. Why play low tier tank to grind commander perks like you use to have to do when you can just move a commanders perks anywhere you want. Terrible idea. The whole point of buying premium tanks before 6.0 was to train crews for individual countries. You needed a good German crew uou played German tanks to improve the commander perks. Now you want to play a tank and need a good commander you can just stral his perks. Very bad 8dea. It needs to go back to the way it was. You need a polish commander then you grinded polish tanks. Commander perks need increased and perks should be harder to get more xp needed and NO BUYING commander perks. You want a commander perk then grind for it and earn it. How does it make sense to have a 9 perk American commander and for a little silver he now is a 9 perk Chinese commander? The best thing the players can do is stop spending money. You want real change then you have to hit yhem in the pocket until then nothing will change. If wargaming would worry about making a quality game as much as they do about getting every nickel out of your pocket this game would kick ass but greed is killing it. Will wargaming listen? My guess is no. They don't care about quality of game play only did you spend a dollar today.
I just can’t agree with most of this. It is a video made by a top player that’s asks war games to reward the most elite players and increase the gap between them and them and the rest of use. “War gaming how dare you give a competitive tank to any but those who pay to play and those who are a cut above? How will we stay dominant without tanks that are more op then the rest of the community?” That’s what I got from this video. What would have been better would be if you said “war gaming stop making tanks that are so op they dominate every fight making everyone who doesn’t pay to play into fodder
That Arty gameplay is Toxic - leave Era 3 outta your mouth - i love the 90mph Shotty Sniper atmosphere
How bout stop making tanks with rockets. I stopped playing Era 2&3 cuz that’s pretty much all I get hit by.
They NEED to remove auto aim/lock on/ auto lock (whatever people call it). It would stop people from yoloing because they can’t just drive and spam shots. Bigger maps and nerfing tanks will not stop people from yoloing and auto aiming and shooting with no skill or effort at all. People gotta stop giving this company money.