I bought the 24 mm a little over a month ago and just got the 20 mm I pre-ordered last week and it’s lived on my camera perfect for my needs. I enjoyed the wider focal length and didn’t really miss the difference between the 1.4 and the 1.8. Now gonna be selling my 24 1.4 GM and keeping the 20!
I’m with you. And for video, the 20mm is more like a 24mm when you add the crop factor for Focus Breathing comp and Active Stabilization. And thus essentially a 35mm in APS-C mode.
I didn't have much interest in this lens when it was announced because eI own and love the 24GM. But seeing your test footage and the valid points you made you have now piqued my interest! Awesome review bro
Don’t know if anyone ever said this but I was just listening to the video not looking at the screen I thought this was Max Youriev lol. Crazy how much alike you sound and even speak in a similar way.
1) Great Video David! Simple, Clear and message delivered. Like your tone and your pace. Well Done. 2) I was comparing 24 and 20 for the last two weeks and I bought the 20 at the end. I always love to buy the top of the line lens from the brand. When I was with Canon, all L lens. Even though I am not a professional photographer nor I can't even know how to bring out the potential from every lens I bought, I believe that top of the line always give you the best result. However, this 20 is something special. As you said, built and design are the same. It has 95% GM performance but A LOL cheaper. I really like the wider angle this time. 3) Another reason I moved from DSLR to mirroless because of the compact size and weight. I want my gear to be as light as possible and it maintains the quality. Sony camera and lens are doing good so far. Very happy with it.
Thanks! And yeah, I 100% vibe with that sentiment of loving buying the top end gear, but the 20 really is something incredible. Hope you’re enjoying that lightweight setup, it’s a great match!
Hi! very nice review! What do you think about distortion in portraits compared to the 24mm GM? Can I get the same result by cropping a photo taken with the 20mm to reach 24 than taking it with the 24? Will there be any difference in perspective and distortion in the case of cropping? Thanks
I think the distortion control on both are about equal to each other, so if composition was identical (and you were further away on the 20mm) and you cropped, you should expect the same photo! Of course, this would be best done on higher MP sensors so you have more room to crop :)
Hi! You make very nice and useful videos!... Here in my country I can buy a used sony 20mm 1.8 at the same price as a new sigma 16 mm 1.4. I currently own an a6400 and I can't decide between these two... Which one would you buy if they cost the same? Thank you!!!
If you ever plan on switching to full frame, definitely get the 20mm f/1.8! It's SUCH a good lens! But, if you plan on staying on APS-C for a while (1+ years) AND you want a wider focal length, then get the Sigma 16 f/1.4. As much as I LOVE the Sony 20mm f/1.8, it's no use if the focal length is wrong for what you want to capture.
Hey David! Great work with the video. Definitely decided to go with the 24mm. Let me know when you want to go shoot in Tampa sometime, after this COVID-19 blows over of course!
The talking-head portion of this video was shot on the a6600 and the 20mm G, for videos, I think they perform phenomenally together! It'll give you a 30mm FF equiv. focal length which I think is a solid field of view and it's very sharp and has great contrast :)
Ooh that's a very good question, well personally, if you can get a $1400 lens for $900, do that. Aside from the technical reasons: 1) it's not as wide so it's easier to use it for a LOT of shots (vs. using a super wide for a ton of shots, it can be limiting) and 2) it's still a better lens optically. But ALSO, it's going to have better re-sale value AND you need 2 Sony FF cameras and 2 Sony GM lenses to get into their Pro Support program, which if you plan on becoming a professional videographer, I recommend checking out :)
24-70mm GM would be the most versatile in a gym and outdoors. The f/2.8 will allow enough light in and the zoom range gives you options to "mix up your look" by cutting between wide angle shots and close-up shots.
@@DavidZhou I have a 20mm 1.8 it actually does good than I expected when I replied. To this I never tested it ... but I have been using it I love it I might still get a 24-70 mm though
So now I am torn between the Tamron 17-28mm vs the Sony 20mm f/1.8. The reason for wanting the f/1.8 is not only do I shoot astro, but I like shooting day time wide portraits, however, AT A DISTANCE. Would shooting f/2.8 vs f/1.8 actually make a difference in subject separation if my subject was say, 20 feet away? I love to shoot "little person in a big landscape photos" Thank you, David
Hey! At 20ft, there will likely be no difference in background separation, both backgrounds will be quite in focus. I find 0-4 feet distance with the 20mm will yield a shallow DOF, but any farther it all really comes into focus. I think the 1.8 could help w/ Astro, but since I’m not super into that field, I can’t give the best suggestion. Likely the tamron will offer more versatility w/ the zoom, but idk about the image quality! I can say for certain the 20mm is very sharp!
That'll be tough! Personally, I can't because I wouldn't utilize both as much as I'd like, because in most situations, either would do. But, if you have use cases for both, I'd definitely say so. For example, I love the 20mm for videos for CZcams BUT the 24mm is much more useful for my client work (as the field-of-view isn't wide enough to be noticed as "wide"). For now, I'm just keeping the 24mm since I have an irrational desire to collect all of the GM lenses :)
Great video. Can you explain briefly again why the 24 has better optical quality than the 20? Is it because of their aperture difference or the 24 actually has better glass?
As an enthusiast price is very important to me. The Sigmas you listed (thanks for doing this) are between 50% to 80% cheaper than these very expensive Sony lenses. Sigma image quality is so phenomenal that I would really like you to show the Sigma lenses in comparison to the two Sony lenses you shared with us today. Thanks, again, and I appreciate the listing of the Sigma lenses here.
I love the Sigma lenses but they are APS-C lenses, so if you plan on shooting full-frame, that's the only time they won't suffice. Sigma's FF lenses are pretty expensive too, but you're right though = a Sony a6600 + Sigma lenses can really produce some great footage!
i'm confused.. some reviewers on CZcams says the 20mm 1.8 is sharper while some reviewer says it is less sharp than the 1.4. But this channel actually shows the comparison charts to the audience that the 20mm 1.8 is actually look less sharp
you really need to be closer to the 20mm due to the wider FOV to do any comparison. also F1.4 is too much light in the daytime for video recording - pointless to buy GM and then cheap ND filter to go in front.
The Sony 24 GM is better in terms of optical quality, but the 20mm is wider, if you need the extra focal length, go with the 20, if you want to save money, go with the 20, if you want slightly better image quality, go with the 24 GM!
Just for astrophotography alone, I'll stay with the 24GM. To not have the corners sharp defeats the purpose. If I have to crop to cut that out, 20mm is out the window. Of all my pictures, the edges are the same as the center, everytime. Nice review though.
I didn't watch your movie to the end because you get so excited about this plastic And you didn't say a word during the first half of the movie about the glass used in these two different lenses, this is reason for the difference of price
QOTD: Would you rather have the 24mm GM or the 20mm G?
David Zhou
The price will be the top priority of me😂
keeping 24,,,,,,,,im a sucker for low light performance
sold the 24 GM in under 6 months. ready for something useful - 20mm is now wide enough. F1.8 might be manageable during the day without ND
will always keep my GM for its superior Flare, Color and Contrast properties.....that's actually where GM lens stands out, not only about sharpness
Currently have the 24 for its total lack of coma distortion for astrophotography, but Sometimes I wish it was wider.
I really appreciate the amount of detail and heart that went into this review. Also, now i'm going to pick one up now! Thanks man!
Looking at your pictures and videos makes me wanna go shoot. Stunning. Thanks for the great video.
Wow. Solid review. Really researched the lens. I subbed.
Really tempted to try out this lens...
Great review 👍
Great video man! Cheers! Looking to see if i "need" this lens 😂
I bought the 24 mm a little over a month ago and just got the 20 mm I pre-ordered last week and it’s lived on my camera perfect for my needs. I enjoyed the wider focal length and didn’t really miss the difference between the 1.4 and the 1.8. Now gonna be selling my 24 1.4 GM and keeping the 20!
Definitely comes down to the FOV you want/need! They’re both great lenses, and you get a lil money back for selling the more expensive lens haha
David Zhou using the extra $ I’m getting back to swap my tamron 28-75 for the sigma 24-70
I’m with you. And for video, the 20mm is more like a 24mm when you add the crop factor for Focus Breathing comp and Active Stabilization. And thus essentially a 35mm in APS-C mode.
Dang dude, nice video.. keep em coming 👍
good review! Keep up the good work！
Great review! Thanks! Could be my next lens
hi! david ! Can you tell me what font did u use for the thumbnail "Sony 20mm"?? What app? Over on iOS? Font? Thanks. I really like the font.
I didn't have much interest in this lens when it was announced because eI own and love the 24GM. But seeing your test footage and the valid points you made you have now piqued my interest! Awesome review bro
Don’t know if anyone ever said this but I was just listening to the video not looking at the screen I thought this was Max Youriev lol. Crazy how much alike you sound and even speak in a similar way.
That’s definitely a first 😂
Great review, thank you
Currently waiting for mine in the mail right now 😊
This is truly best review 👍
1) Great Video David! Simple, Clear and message delivered. Like your tone and your pace. Well Done.
2) I was comparing 24 and 20 for the last two weeks and I bought the 20 at the end. I always love to buy the top of the line lens from the brand. When I was with Canon, all L lens. Even though I am not a professional photographer nor I can't even know how to bring out the potential from every lens I bought, I believe that top of the line always give you the best result. However, this 20 is something special. As you said, built and design are the same. It has 95% GM performance but A LOL cheaper. I really like the wider angle this time.
3) Another reason I moved from DSLR to mirroless because of the compact size and weight. I want my gear to be as light as possible and it maintains the quality. Sony camera and lens are doing good so far. Very happy with it.
Thanks! And yeah, I 100% vibe with that sentiment of loving buying the top end gear, but the 20 really is something incredible. Hope you’re enjoying that lightweight setup, it’s a great match!
Which lens did you shoot the video with? its killing me :) great video :)
All of it was shot on the Sony 20mm f/1.8 G, except for the shots of the lens itself! 😁
Hi! very nice review! What do you think about distortion in portraits compared to the 24mm GM? Can I get the same result by cropping a photo taken with the 20mm to reach 24 than taking it with the 24? Will there be any difference in perspective and distortion in the case of cropping? Thanks
I think the distortion control on both are about equal to each other, so if composition was identical (and you were further away on the 20mm) and you cropped, you should expect the same photo! Of course, this would be best done on higher MP sensors so you have more room to crop :)
@@DavidZhou Thanks David!
i lost it when you show kai clips lol! thanks for the comaprison, not a sony user but this is definitely good comparison/review
Haha, glad you enjoyed! When I was editing the video I was like, you can't talk about BOOOOKEH without Kai (or Tony Northrup now lol)
Hi! You make very nice and useful videos!... Here in my country I can buy a used sony 20mm 1.8 at the same price as a new sigma 16 mm 1.4. I currently own an a6400 and I can't decide between these two... Which one would you buy if they cost the same? Thank you!!!
If you ever plan on switching to full frame, definitely get the 20mm f/1.8! It's SUCH a good lens! But, if you plan on staying on APS-C for a while (1+ years) AND you want a wider focal length, then get the Sigma 16 f/1.4. As much as I LOVE the Sony 20mm f/1.8, it's no use if the focal length is wrong for what you want to capture.
great intro, good edits
Hey David! Great work with the video. Definitely decided to go with the 24mm. Let me know when you want to go shoot in Tampa sometime, after this COVID-19 blows over of course!
Yes, definitely!
Hi David, just wondering how’s the 20mm g lens perform if mount on the APSC camera like A6400, thx for your advance, cheers
The talking-head portion of this video was shot on the a6600 and the 20mm G, for videos, I think they perform phenomenally together! It'll give you a 30mm FF equiv. focal length which I think is a solid field of view and it's very sharp and has great contrast :)
David Zhou thanks David, I will buy this lens now
What tri-stand do you use in your video at 5:45? Thx.
That's the Manfrotto BeFree tripod! :)
Do you have any experience with the Loxia 21 ?
How does it compare to those 2 lenses ?😅
Unfortunately not! :(
I have both of these lens I gave you a like since the bucs are my favorite team
I bought it ( the 20) and the 24 and the 35 and the Sia 65 f/2 . All such great lenses. Diggin em all
I have the opportunity to buy either at the same price, and im just starting out in the wedding videography game. Which would you recommend?
Ooh that's a very good question, well personally, if you can get a $1400 lens for $900, do that. Aside from the technical reasons: 1) it's not as wide so it's easier to use it for a LOT of shots (vs. using a super wide for a ton of shots, it can be limiting) and 2) it's still a better lens optically. But ALSO, it's going to have better re-sale value AND you need 2 Sony FF cameras and 2 Sony GM lenses to get into their Pro Support program, which if you plan on becoming a professional videographer, I recommend checking out :)
David Zhou thank you! I’ve actually never heard of that program, I’ll check it out! In the meantime I’ll go grab the 24mm! Thanks for your input!
Which one is better for video shooting in Sony a7iii ? Thanks for the video ;)
Depends on what you’re shooting, I can say the 24mm is still my favorite lens but the 20mm is wider (if you need wise) and cheaper!
David Zhou Many thanks for your tip and fast answer :)
What camera would be good for recording my exercise videos ???? 24-70mm g master ?
24-70mm GM would be the most versatile in a gym and outdoors. The f/2.8 will allow enough light in and the zoom range gives you options to "mix up your look" by cutting between wide angle shots and close-up shots.
@@DavidZhou I have a 20mm 1.8 it actually does good than I expected when I replied. To this I never tested it ... but I have been using it I love it I might still get a 24-70 mm though
Can you use this 24mm for macro?
Not on its own, you’d have to use a diopter attachment
So now I am torn between the Tamron 17-28mm vs the Sony 20mm f/1.8. The reason for wanting the f/1.8 is not only do I shoot astro, but I like shooting day time wide portraits, however, AT A DISTANCE. Would shooting f/2.8 vs f/1.8 actually make a difference in subject separation if my subject was say, 20 feet away? I love to shoot "little person in a big landscape photos" Thank you, David
Hey! At 20ft, there will likely be no difference in background separation, both backgrounds will be quite in focus. I find 0-4 feet distance with the 20mm will yield a shallow DOF, but any farther it all really comes into focus.
I think the 1.8 could help w/ Astro, but since I’m not super into that field, I can’t give the best suggestion. Likely the tamron will offer more versatility w/ the zoom, but idk about the image quality! I can say for certain the 20mm is very sharp!
David Zhou thanks man!!
Excellent!
Nice! Can you justify keeping both?? I have the 24 gm and love it - it is a forever lens!
That'll be tough! Personally, I can't because I wouldn't utilize both as much as I'd like, because in most situations, either would do. But, if you have use cases for both, I'd definitely say so. For example, I love the 20mm for videos for CZcams BUT the 24mm is much more useful for my client work (as the field-of-view isn't wide enough to be noticed as "wide"). For now, I'm just keeping the 24mm since I have an irrational desire to collect all of the GM lenses :)
Is the 20mm good for weddings cinematography??
I think so - I love adding good wide angle shots to my highlight videos!
Pls shoot some cinematic footage sample out of this lense.
I ❤️ this
Great video. Can you explain briefly again why the 24 has better optical quality than the 20? Is it because of their aperture difference or the 24 actually has better glass?
What about it’s barrel distortion ?
I found it to be really well controlled!
As an enthusiast price is very important to me. The Sigmas you listed (thanks for doing this) are between 50% to 80% cheaper than these very expensive Sony lenses. Sigma image quality is so phenomenal that I would really like you to show the Sigma lenses in comparison to the two Sony lenses you shared with us today. Thanks, again, and I appreciate the listing of the Sigma lenses here.
I love the Sigma lenses but they are APS-C lenses, so if you plan on shooting full-frame, that's the only time they won't suffice. Sigma's FF lenses are pretty expensive too, but you're right though = a Sony a6600 + Sigma lenses can really produce some great footage!
Thanks!
i'm confused.. some reviewers on CZcams says the 20mm 1.8 is sharper while some reviewer says it is less sharp than the 1.4. But this channel actually shows the comparison charts to the audience that the 20mm 1.8 is actually look less sharp
deam, ur face is sharp!
For vlog I think the tamron 17-28mm is more versatile.
A zoom w/ a wide end is probably definitely more versatile, I wouldn’t argue against that!
It becomes super difficult when you have 3 great lenses to choose between .
@@nosignal7156 Exactly🤣
think the 20 would be best choice for vloggers between these 3 lenses,,,, get that f1.8 for low light & compact size/lightweight
you really need to be closer to the 20mm due to the wider FOV to do any comparison. also F1.4 is too much light in the daytime for video recording - pointless to buy GM and then cheap ND filter to go in front.
I got money I can afford the G master, but these videos are confusing me, what is better now?!!!!!!
The Sony 24 GM is better in terms of optical quality, but the 20mm is wider, if you need the extra focal length, go with the 20, if you want to save money, go with the 20, if you want slightly better image quality, go with the 24 GM!
Honestly I’d rather have the 24mm, I find 20 is too wide and weird for me ahhah
Yeah you're not wrong!
true,,,, its like 24gm just nails it with the focal length,,,,,,,,, 20 is definitely more "weird"/warpy
I feel like all GMs lost in comparisons w their alternatives bc the price lol.
Hahaha, you're not wrong - especially when the G has so much in common already
Just for astrophotography alone, I'll stay with the 24GM. To not have the corners sharp defeats the purpose. If I have to crop to cut that out, 20mm is out the window. Of all my pictures, the edges are the same as the center, everytime. Nice review though.
That bass in the background is distracting me
Duly noted!
You get what you pay for that’s why the GMaster is better 👍
agree,,,,, but this 20mm is very attractive being a bit wider & lighter while not loosing that much in aperture
I've got the GM and was really surprised by what they packed into the 20.
@@sic04250f full frame 20mm f1.8 weighing 373 grams, powerful combination
@@mirrorlessny I want a wider GM prime. Got the Batis 18mm so probably skip the 20mm, I don't vlog.
@@sic04250f hope they keep it at f1.4,,,,14mmGM weighing 700 grams? lol
I didn't watch your movie to the end because you get so excited about this plastic And you didn't say a word during the first half of the movie about the glass used in these two different lenses, this is reason for the difference of price