Pond Clearing & Stocking Hybrid Bream
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2014
- So, the purpose of my pond is to have a nice fishing hole, add beauty to my property, provide emergency water, provide water for gardening/orchard, and provide a source of fish protein. There are a few videos of when it was being dug last winter and it has been stocked with fathead minnows for about 10 months now. I see their babies so it supports life, but it needed significant work to support an ecosystem. It had too much clay particles suspended in it which prevents algae growth. Being silty, the pond cannot perform properly. Well, I waited and waiting didn't get the job done so i decided to tackle it. I used aluminum sulfate to bind the clay particles and make them drop to the bottom of the pond and clarify the water more. Because aluminum sulfate lowers PH, I had to counter that with calcium carbonate. Both will not harm the fish, but drastic changes in PH can. I stocked the pond with hybrid bream because it is a smaller body of water and are better suited for catfish or hybrids. Hybrids are fun to catch and taste great. Instead of putting catfish in, I'll add Tilapia later on, but that's another video. I'll introduce bass in the fall to keep the hybrid bream offspring in check. Hybrids do not produce true-to-type offspring and the bass will love 'em along with the fatheads. I love chatting with folks and answering questions. If you enjoy my videos, please like, comment and subscribe!
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I really am enjoying your videos this morning!
Thanks so much!
Brent: Big difference of the water after the treatment. You will have a lot of fun with all those fish in your pond. We have a small cement fish pond at our home and we use to have about 130 goldfish in it. Eight years ago while we were on vacation a giant Blue Heron visited our pond and ate the all. First time since we moved here in 1978 that we ever had the problem. Our neighbor told us what had happened and why we had large white stains all over our black roof. Oh Well! Bernard
Bernard, that is tragic then, but a little funny now. :O) I hope you don't mind me saying that. I can picture the big bird eating "fish in a barrel". I hope to have a great time with the pond.
You must add sand and gravel (or river stones) to cover the bottom and the shore before adding alum because alum just binds the clay together chemically, at minimal disturbance the compound formed blends again. By "sealing" the soil with sand and said heavy sediments you lock the clay underneath and the one that deposits later over the sand "cover" can be vacuumed.
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Taro plants thrives in boggy areas. They grow very well around our pond. Just a suggestion for a type of plants you might consider planting in some areas of the pond. Will be on the lookout for you video fishing in your pond:-)
Thanks Jo!
Another Arkansas boy? We are strong on CZcams!
+Lil Doggy
Probably because we don't know any better.
Brent
It's fun though. There are so many of us too.
Great pond. I like to have something like this someday.
Make it happen! You can do it.
Hello, excellent video. Just wondering what is the approximate size of your pond in length and width. thanks
Between 1/3 and 1/2 acre.
the first ting you should do is check water temperatures in the bag and the pond . if the water in the pond is less than the water in the bag , you can just release the fish . if there is good difference and the pond water is warmer , then you NEED to add water slowly to the bag until the waters are really close in temperature . that allows the fish to pump air OUT of their tiny swim bladders as it increases in pressure due to the warming of the water . it's not hard to work them in once you understand what happens to a fish when you warm them up quickly . the fathead minnows like to stick their eggs to the underside of smooth surfaces in shallow water . (picture a lily pad )
Thank you Jeffrey. I'll be able to come back here and read the comment again before I re-stock. :O)
thanks for the video. why did you select hybrid fish that will not reproduce?
For their bigger size. But, they have reproduced every year anyway. They don't last long with the catfish and bass, but there are tons of babies for a while.
excellent video.Sir ,Please update move videos.Thanks.
Hey Ravi! What did you want me to update?
Brent
I personally wold like to see the fish
chabka34. You bet. More to come. Check out some of the feeding videos and fishing with the grandson. Just a taste.
very nice. same size as i am thinking about building. what state are you in?
+Gra 7961 I'm in Arkansas. I've had some great fish growth I believe. It's been real fun.
Brent
Those blue Gill will infest that pond in a year.
It's been 4 and they haven't. These are hybrid, not blue gill.
Just purchased some land with a large pond. We want to swim and use it for the dog, maybe livestock and fish down the road. Our water tests came back w excessive levels of coliform and animal waste. Any tips on how to clean it up and maintain it? Thanks!
Sorry, no. Fish that eat waste??
tut the idea of mixing pond water to bags 50/50 over 10 mins is to aclimatise the fish to the pond water then simply tip in the pond not wait till they swim out when ready lol
Thank you! They're growing nicely. Love my pond Frankie.
Brent
I heard that throwing strawbales in a pond help much with algae
I've heard that as well Ani.
Total myth
Do you remember how much alum you added? I have a similar pond with similar issues. I want to get it right before stocking it.
I wish. Best to you.
Did a lot of the fish die after adding the chemicals ? Nice video
Not any that I saw.
I live in Arkansas as well and I was wondering where did you buy your fish?
I believe I used Arkansas Pond Stockers and met their truck in Quitman. Here's a .pdf with the major stockers for the state including the one I used:
www.agfc.com/resources/Publications/sportsfish_suppliers.pdf
Brent
Everyone I know including myself stocked hybrid bluegills that were supposed to get 4 to 5 pounds 20 years ago and nobody has ever caught one I don’t know if they died or just didn’t grow
Never caught a single one no matter the size? Or, a big one? I've caught many of mine, but none more than a pound. Cats and bass have nearly depleted mine so I started catching those to significantly reduce their population so they'd quit eating the babies.
Brent Montgomery No not that I could tell. These were the white bass bluegill hybrid. They called them Georgia Jumpers and I saw pictures of 4 pounders but I don’t know anybody that caught any and the fad died out in Georgia
look into a sump filter diy king
Link?
Why no aerator. That will help keep the water clear
I just haven't gotten around to it. The solar versions seem doable now!
Without plants you’ll never keep that water clear.
Raymond, is that a suggestion? If so, follow through and let me know the types of plants and where to get them if you have that info. I have been meaning to add plants of sorts to the pond for years. It helps provide shelter for baby fish as well as oxygenate the water. Tips?
Mr Brent I had to use gymson after two year and in one week it was beautiful. I know it has been a long time passing but I noticed it went back muddy for you. I have a one acor pond Ithey told me no problem to put 500 hybread bream and 500 channel cats. so I did. but for the life of me cant hardly catch a fish out of it. I have feed them and not a lot of feeding frenzy go on. can fish die and never surface?
Yes, it does muddy after a rain, but clears up, well pretty good still. What did you use and how much of it? Cost?
I feed my fish very late afternoon right after sun goes over the trees but still daylight more or less. I have much less fish you than you do and the feeding frenzy is very noticeable. Yours should be incredible. What time do you feed? Do you feed daily? Feeder? How long ago did you stock? Did you stock cats and bream at the same time? If so, your cats will eat all the bream within a year. They grow much faster. Even now, I'm fishing out a bunch of cats because my bream population is too small for me. Have you fished for the cats in the evening (liver/chicken)?
Seems odd to lose all of your fish and none show up unless they're being eaten, but I'm not a professional pond guy so I'm just shooting from the hip here.
for the gympson I used 8 bags and then put a small boat in with small outboard and stured it up. about 10 years ago specialist said it was no problem with 500 finger cats and 500 hyb. bream as long sa I tried to try to fish it hard as to restock again. I have caught many cats and bream and shellcrachers from other lakes and put them in but still hard to catch. now we can catch bream pretty fair but cats are very heard. I am building cat traps now to see if that works. I am in north louisiana
Cats can't resist chicken liver at night. Have you tried it tied on hook with sewing thread?
My cats surface and scoop up food like nobody's business? Yours?
Are your bream good size?
the last time I caught hyb. bream they were a little larger than your hand. they also have a bigger mouth and body has a soft mushy feel to them. the people that sold them said they can get up to 3 to 5 lbs. I don't know about that. I have not fished my pond in long time. the last cat I threw back 5 years ago weighed 13 lbs
@@rodneywroten2994 I am in the Houston area I rented a Cat trackhoe dug out a 3/4 acre pond over 3 day weekend. I stepped it down 3' then out 10 then down 5' then down another 10' so the deepest point was 23. It was my plan to install a water pump to recirculate the water from bottom to top and add a couple of aerators then some sonotubes to support a gazebo I wanted to build partially over the pond. After digging the pond I noticed water beginning to come up out the ground when I stopped digging there was about a foot of pretty Bluegreen water at the bottom of the pond. Exactly 6 days later it rained 27 inches in 24 hours totally flooding the entire property except where I move the dirt from the pond to the area where I plan to build the house and barn. So the thing filled up in one day. Later I stocked it with hybrid bluegill and
channel cat. Now that pond is totally stratified. I will double the size it took it about 12 yrs to get this was when I redo it I will put in about 200 Hybrid bluegill, and a couple thousand fathead minnows, wait for 2 yrs then add the catfish and fingerling bass. The last time I put them all in at the same time It did not take long for those catfish and bass to chew them up. You see the bluegill reproduced but they could never live long enough to reach full size, not did I have adequate cover for the smaller fish to hide which is very important.
I will build a couple floating habitats designed to give the small fish a place to hide from the predators. My pond was so deep I was able to drop about 6 Christmas trees in one area which was great it's better to wait until all the green is dead and gone. My fish were doing great but because I had no way to recirculate the water or add oxygen it suffered. Now I am ready to get it done again. But this time nothing goes in for the first 2 yrs but the bluegill and minnows allowing a healthy population of these feedstocks before I add
the about 50 largemouth bass and 100 catfish because they reproduce fast and abundantly. That bass will eat a fish everything in the pond and brim is excellent catfish bait. I see a 4-inch bass with a 3-inch brim hanging out of the mouth. So the moral of my story is if you do not have cover your hybrids wont live long enough to reach full size, your pond will be full of very small Hybrids, the same applies to the minnows. In my case, none of the hybrids ever reached full size because of pressure from the bass and the catfish.
its been few years now, how are the fish doning today.
Pigs I tell ya, pigs. It's a frenzy every feeding time. Cats are pushing their way around scooping up the feed like a vacuum. Hybrids are eating size, but I've not eaten one fish yet. I want to get them nice and big. Did a video with grandson where we caught a few earlier this year. It's easy pickin's for sure, a bream fisher's heaven. The cats need to be thinned out some. Catfish fry time! Having fun silver.
Brent
good deal buddy, i miss panfishing. when i lived in Oklahoma i fish for them all the time, now i live in California by Yosemite. not much pan fish here. but alot of trout. take care man.
Yosemite is beautiful country. Enjoy the trout brother.
Brent
Were did you buy the sulfate?
Woods Feed Store, Cabot, Arkanasas.
Brent
update to progress of fish?
I've done a few updates since this one, but basically feeding time vid. I've got another one coming up within a week or so. If that's not what you're looking for, just ask what you'd like to know. They're all doing well and growing. Here's one from last year: czcams.com/video/xKGB9oZ7dLY/video.html
Did you have any problems with your pond holding water?
No, not here with all this clay. Summer dry spells I lose a lot of water due to evaporation. Right now, it's maxed full.
@@C3Voyage where exactly are you located..im in the mount vernon area and having problems with water going thru rocky bottom and cant seem to locate any good clay to line the bottom
Just outside Conway.
@@C3Voyage did you have a contractor come build it or do it yourself?
I contacted hte county extension service and they had a list. I looked at the work of a couple of them and decided on one.
Hybrid bream edible? Chewy and tough?
Delicious!
Any update on the pond
Is there something I can answer for you here or what type of video would you like to see. I just cleared some brush around it since it's at a low level right now.
Cool project. I'd like to see updates on the fish. I'm super interested in seeing these fish ponds flourish. Not enough up close & personal videos on CZcams
What size is your pond?
Between 1/4 and 1/3 acre.
What are the measurements of this pond ?
About 1/3 acre.
How long will this last
So far, since it was done.
@@C3Voyage I have been working on getting my hardness up and ideas looking for natural solutions and low maintenance
Is it ok for fish
They're big now.
If you're eating things from the pond or watering a veggie garden I would not use aluminum sulfate.
I'm not really, but the application of it was long ago regardless. I know aluminum sulfate is used to adjust ph for some in gardening. Can you tell me why you don't recommend it?
@@C3Voyage Espoma used to sell it to turn Hydrangeas blue but have replaced it. Aluminum is suspected (or perhaps known) as a cause of alzhiemers (sp?). I'm trying to remember the name of a flocculant I used to use that is safe. It was longtime ago but the old brain will finally remember.
You better put some bass in there or the pond will overpopulate and the fish will stunt .
Connor Kryszak
Yes and no. It can get to be an issue, but probably not like what you're thinking. Hybrid bluegill do not produce like bluegill. Hybrids are 80-90% male and the offspring are very poor quality. Still, it's recommended to put a small number of bass in there to keep any offspring produced eaten. With hybrids, you actually have to pay attention to what you take out and restock every year or two. Here's an article on the differences of Hybrid to Bluegill: www.keystonehatcheries.com/Articles.asp?ID=307
I also followed the stocking plan recommended in several places: Stock with fathead minnows first. Did that no long after the pond was done, last spring. Two months or so later, hybrid bream, or about one year ago. Bass and catfish a year later to let bream get bigger and fatheads to increase in great number. I have tons of fatheads now and the bream are about 4-5" now. Timely your comment too because I stocked the pond with 25 largemouth and 100 cats about a week ago! They said if I feed, I can stock with up to 100 cats for my size pond too, but I'd need to feed. I am feeding. I sure love this pond.
All this feedback is great for those who tune in. Thanks Connor!
+C3 Voyage nice pond. Are you in east Arkansas?
Central. Mayflower.
Brent