I'm a Montagnard living in America. was brought here from the military forces back in the 70's. I'm from a tribe called Bru and proud. I'm adopted now due to my dads death which trained the American forces . my mom died saving me. I had nightmares for 3 years about my mother's death. I'm grateful that I'm living and help many people in life. peace with everyone and wish you well with your lives.
I served in SE Asia in the early 70s before the Vietnam war finally ended and all sides began picking up the pieces. The Montagnards were among the bravest, toughest, most reliable allies the US had in Laos/Vietnam. I deeply regret that the US failed to accommodate any and all Montagnard that desired relocation in the wake of the war but am extremely happy for those that did eventually make USA their home - WELCOME!
Thich Nhat Hanh lived along side Montagnards. He had to leave Vietnam. He walked with Martin Luther King who nominated him for Nobel Peace Award. He set up a community in France. Plum Village. Many American Veterans went to visit him and he helped them deal with horrors they experienced. Healing. He returned to.Vietnam recently to die. Peace is every step. One of his books. He took no side.
Leaving these people must have been very hard. I spent time in the East and became close to the hill people. I watched this with tears in my eyes as you never forget those days
I knew a Montagnard girl in college. Her father was one of those armed by the US, and they kept fighting even after the US left. After the communists took over, they would kill any Montagnard who had fought them. Eventually, they made in to Thailand and then the US after hiding in the jungle for months. She was just a little girl at the time, but she saw some really horrible things. Said the government solders would torture her people to death in the most horrible ways. But her whole family survived, which she said was very rare for her people.
Chúng mày từ đâu đâu đến xâm chiếm Việt Nam giết hại thả bom vũ khí hóa học giết bao triệu dân lành , và rồi chúng mày mang vũ khí hiện đại ác độc đến , giờ chúng mày lại bảo cộng sản giết chúng mày . chúng mày là bọn tàn nhẫn
My grandfather was a med evac operative on a huey in this nightmare of a war. He was once tasked with finding the remains of a downed helicopter and it's crew deep in the jungle. when they landed, they walked for some time and found the wreckage of the huey. On the downed helicopter's side, the skulls of the crew were arranged in a line, with their dog tags around them. It is believed that one of these tribes, or, "mountain men" did this, out of respect of to give the men a proper rest til the remains were found.
These guys were true war heroes and totally betrayed by their allies. Watching documentaries and listening to podcasts about the SOG program in Vietnam, US servicemen are referred to by name but the Montagnard are just referred to as "yards". The US didn't see them as people, just pawns. They were used and abused and then abandoned. America should be ashamed.
Shame on America for using them against the communist and abandon them to be slaughtered the communist , including the babies, oldies in the villages...the communist even use chemical weapons to eradicate their villages/tribes.
They most certainly were not used and abused. Our special forces loved these guys. In fact many green berets helped bring mountagnards back to the US. Do your research before committing
I first established an aquaintance with the Montangards when I read the book "The Green Berets" by Robin Moore. From what I have learned since, the "yards" have more than overperformed as a counter-insurgency force. ^ That is why it saddens me that the US has largely left the Mountain tribes left out to dry. And even more so, that the US have done the same to the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and Iran.
@Pøbel Today Vietnam don't want to hear about this.They don't care. Thank you for mentioning this. It's crazy we USA continues to abandon small indigenous tribes
My Father, in the Dad advised Montagnards, to fight the Terrorist Foes.. SPECIAL FORCES!!! They are a "Special People(s)'... My Dad talked a lot about them, befriending them... Circ. early/middle, 1960's; My Father was one, with a GROUP, based outta Ft. Bragg, (Special Forces, ventured into Laos * Cambodia) , 5th Special Forces Group, 5th SFG... God Bless those Folks
I've read about and listened to dozens of interviews with SF Operators of Vietnam. Many of them trained and fought along side indigenous soldiers (including "the 'Yards") and every single one praises the skill and determination of their Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Montegnard brothers in arms. MACV/SOG teams had more native men than American men, 3 American SF and 5+ Indigenous soldiers. The SOG guys always say their "indige" team members were disciplined, highly skilled, brave and instinctive warriors; relentless fighters who were tough as nails. Btw- South Korean soldiers were also respected and admired allies in Vietnam, who often struck fear in the NVA and VC soldiers.
My father was in vietnam, laos and cambodia '59-'60. No uniform, no ID, had ak's. Worked with the CIA and answered directly to the JCOS. They sabotaged fuel depots, ammo supplies, blew up bridges. Also worked with he Montagnards. This was all pre SOG. I believe he might have been part of Operation Hotfoot.
but like most documentaries you learn something astounding by watching something completely different. For me all the fighting on the hill and "highlands" make a hell of a lot more sense now,thanks to this documentary.
Sitting in a monsoon under a big rock, the Montagnard approached us and tossed over a dozen decapitated 'Cong heads around the small fire, in exchange for cigarettes and coffee. These guys could appear and disappear out of nowhere. They were and always be.. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
10 or so Australians working for the US were instrumental in getting these tribe to arms and trained in jungle warfare. These Aussies were Malayan veterans that already knew jungle warfare which was new to the US.
As a youngster I worked at a hospital I met a friend his name was Chaney a Vietnam vet he would speak of the war but he and other comrades spoke highly of this people , respect ✊🏿 and they looked out for each other
Frenchs betrayed montangards, americans also! The montagnards have friends only peopel, no countrys or governs."Laugh and joke with you, don't believe i love you"
These tribal people sound really lovely, a bit like the old Germanic tribes where the Wives would go along to the battles and cook dinner and cheer on their men folk. Of course and why not? We are all in this together.
I served with 4th inf divison 10th armored cav. in the centrail highlands. we had a mixture of RAVIN and montagnard in B troop. The nards were better soldiers than the south ARVIN if American trained .
Merlin5by5 Yup there was definitely animosity because the Montagnards were the indigenous inhabitants of South Vietnam before it was conquered and colonized by the Champa and later by the Nguyen Lords, just like the relationship between Native Americans and Europeans. I was born in the Central Highland and grew up along side the Ra Đê and the Degar and they were very wonderful people. There were no animosity from them, but they hate the Communist just as much as we do for persecuting them. Within the last few week there were protest in the Highland over religious freedom, and many Montagnard Mennonite were arrested.
Yeah, although it's a little in debate, the Montagnards are supposed to have built their capital as Hue, the erstwhile regional capital of Region 1. Pretty City. They also built the walls that pre-date the DMZ, against the Champa?
Merlin5by5 You're right , Indrapura (Hue today ) was a Champa capital from 4th to 12th centuries A.D. Our ancestral capital was not only in Amaravati ( Da Nang today ) , but also in Vijaya ( Qui Nhon , Binh Dinh present day .
@@eVerProductions1 Easier said than done. Although, I saw some footage recently that seems to be of Montagnards drilling with uniforms and rifles…I don’t know if they’re gonna start another insurrection or what, but I hope they gain autonomy one day.
The Hmong (Montagnard) people were excellent fighters and very brave. They endured the discrimination of the South Vietnamese and the oppression of the North Vietnamese. If the South Vietnamese Army (ARVN) had been more like the Montagnards in terms of their fierce independence, South Vietnam might be like South Korea today - free. Weapons don't win wars - people do. In 1776 the American colonists beat the single world power of its day, The British Empire, because we had a unifying purpose and the will to win. The lesson from Vietnam (or any oppressed people) is that democracy cannot be a gift - it must be fought for and earned - something the South Vietnamese were unable or unwilling to do. The real and often underreported tragedy of America's war in Vietnam is that we ended up abandoning the Montagnard people who fought so well.
People who think slave owners or Jim Crow racists were/are liberals are completely insane. Who waves confederate flags today? Conservatives. The north was liberal and south conservative, and they still are. The party platforms on race switched. This is common historical and political knowledge. Your ignorance is poison, pure dishonest trash.
Im "Hmong" First Generation Born here in America & im Glad to be here today in America because my GrandFather Cpt. Xai Tou Heu fought for the CIA (Secert Army) during war time.
Montagnard is an umbrella term for indigenous Vietnamese Central Highlanders/Cambodian Northern Highlanders, and Hmong isn't included as they're indigenous Vietnam, China and Laos, not Vietnam and Cambodia
I was a Special Forces medic stationed for a short time in Ban me Thout, central highlands. Nice people trying to survive in an environment not of their making.
The Montagnard were was one of our biggest allies in Vietnam. I lived this conflict in 1969 and they we true fighters to keep their country FREE! They were there before most tribes/people of Vietnmam. The Montagnard loved to kill Cong!!! They have been fighting to keep their country and their ways. for centuries! Thet are somewhat a primitive people ... BUT DEADLY!!! The US abonded not only Vietnam but consistantly lied to each and every soldier in the USA forces!!! The war was a lie from the start to the finish!! Our commanders said this war can be won-- LIE!! They said to KILL these people but they were only protecting their conunry from INVADERS!!!
In late 70 or early 71 my first sergeant ordered me to drive him in the company jeep to one of the firebases of our division, the 101st Airborne in South Vietnam. All we had were two M16s. I think we were delivering mail. We probably drove about fifty miles one way over dirt roads. We went through some plantations and teak forests but I remember going through an area of cardboard houses and the first sergeant thought they were Montagnards. I have never seen a poorer people. They must have been punished by the NVA for fighting for the US.
+Thatf Rmah Must have been tough after having their self respect bought by the US Army and later finding they were criminals helping the CIA international drugs business.
+Thatf Rmah Yeah but were the criminals, we're the bad guys. when our dads came home the hippies spat on them and called them war criminals and pigs. Meanwhile the VC massacres Viet nam's indiginous and commit horrible attrocities that would make Hitler blush.
Merlin5by5 That's interesting because Đồng Hới was in North Vietnam north of the DMZ. From what I've heard that there were two set of walls made of mud and bamboo and thorny plants. Most people told me that there is very little trace of the walls left since the Tây Sơn unified the country several hundred years ago it was left to ruined.
While I wasn't north of the DMZ, officially, I was IN the DMZ, working for what was left of SOG after it decamped at the end of 73. I was in Saigon till the last day of the war, and I can see myself on videos of the embassy rooftop, during the Helicopter evacuation. While the walls were slumped and eroded, they were there, and I camped near them.
Yes, Kaiser, the Special Forces trained the Montagnard people till the end of the war, and tried to evacuate them from their mountains. The Vietnamese hated them intensely, as the Montagnard hated the Vietnamese, but specially the NVA. I never saw a Montagnard surrender, and I never saw a Montagnard betray his tribe with the Vietnamese. Moon beam doesn't know what he speaks of, and is an idiot. When a Montagnard fell, we recovered the body, and returned it to his mountain tribe, and the tribe would gather, and we would tell his entire tribe, of the soldiers brave death, as his funeral.
Finally someone who knows whats his talking about !. The Montgnards naturally chose the right side, but unfortunately they, and their Allies got defeated. Due to the political process that followed this tragic war. What I find most disturbing however, is that these brave, and highly loyal tribesmen paid the ultimate price in the most gruesome of ways. As you know already, they had nowhere to go when the Communists took over the South. Everything possible should always be made to help ones Allies, no matter what happens in the so-called "endgames", or whatever the politicians like to call these terrible events. The U.S did indeed manage to evacuate some of them to safety, and launched some relief-programs etc. to help those, and others, who had fought for the The RVN, and on the Allied side. But as I see it, not nearly as many as should have been helped, got it in time for various reasons I am not fully aware of. Or received any, and that is under the conditions, understandable in some cases considering the chaos, and all. The U.S Special Forces, some other units, and the U.S Ambassador&Co did their outmost, and everything what they could, Ive heard. If there is something really of worth passing on to the future generations of servicepersonnel, and Especially the future decisionmakers, is atleast the Fundamental importance of getting every last one out, as far as it possibly can be done if, things really get as bad as they eventually did back then in -75. I wonder what The SE would look like today, if only the South had won, or if there would have been a somewhat similar truce, as in Korea. I suppose atleast the free people of the South, would produce all kinda gizmos, and live a relatively happy life.
Patrick Ilmoni The Montagnard people wanted to stay and fight, they didn't want to give up their homeland. US special forces (I was one), had to take out those who were paymasters for their soldiers, spies on the Vietnamese, or those who would be turned over by the Vietnamese. They left sadly. The Vietnamese unleashed yellow rain chemical warfare on them, in substantial amounts, and eventually some made it out by going through Cambodia, a nightmare in itself.
Merlin5by5 I can imagine that they didnt lack any motivation, but there must have been some who knew that their odds of surviving in that enviroment alone, sadly were quite slim. I hope they got away, by any means possible. Especially the very possible need to evacuate the whole community of their civilians. When was this yellow rain first reported ? Because I remember reading that it was a controversial subject in the 80s, that was debated back, and forth back then among reporters, and researchers. Some said the Soviets were involved, others said it was the regime in Hanoi acting alone. There was even speculation about the whole incident being somekinda fabricated story. But the Soviet attache, or somebody like that, anyways vehemently denied any involvement, ofcourse. I have never come across any hard evidence to support this claim, tough I would not be the least surprised if it were true.
Patrick Ilmoni Yellow rain was first reported right after the fall of Saigon, and was being tested on an open valley that had been denied to the Vietnamese during the whole war, so it was definitely revenge. It's a toxic combination of Sarin and biological poisons, including Ricin and T-2 Mycotoxin, a definite Russian contribution. Alexander Haig got samples provided by Hmong and Montagnard tribal warriors that crossed Cambodia to provide them. Each of the couriers died bringing samples, even though they were taught precautions, given haz material suits, and used metal cannisters.
Merlin5by5 In which valley was this attack carried out , and by what means was it was deployed ?. There was alot of revenge actions going on at that time, and the Vietnamese Gulags were "starting" up with their "re-education" efforts. Ironically. some of the new inmates, were partly former VC, who had to share quarters, with the unfortunate Southerners. I guess the politburoo did not trust all of their "heroes", Ive heard. In those days the route through Cambodia sounds a bit too risky, but I suppose it is possible for these people to do, given the right circumstances & guys for the job. I will definately look into these A.Haigs samples. You mentioned that they were deploying some sort of cocktail of really nasty stuff. But what is the use of doing such a seemingly complex poison, doesnt Sarin kill people quickly enough ? I have another question. Do you happen to know, by whom, or by whos orders was an ancient Champa-site in the Central-highlands destroyed ? This act of vandalism was reported to have taken place back in -68 Ive read. At the time there was some controversy surrounding this event, and the French atleast raised alot of hell over this incident in diplomatic circles. A central piece of delicately carved stone phalloses & other relics were destroyed. Allegedly by an demolitions team, but for what reason ? Some say it was used as an observation post by the VC, but given the location in the bottom of a deep valley, this doesnt make much sense to me. There is a current excavation going on in this famous valley, with German&French archeologists, if I recall. Anyways, there was this huge white stone dick, in the middle of their ancient temple complex. It is said to have been the most unique, of several quite similar pieces of art. I have tried to get to the bottom of this incident of cultural vandalism, but very few proper records of this event do shed any light on the perpetrators, as you can imagine. As far as I know, everybody blames the other part for destroying it. I can understand that art- work often goes "missing", or gets accidentally destroyed in the chaos of a warzone, but never, ever accept it. What the these religious fundamentalists are doing in Mali for instance, is despicable and sheer insanity. Just like in the case with the destruction of the Bamian Buddha. That is why I would like to know, who did what it in the valley of the Champas, and why.
During the French colonial period in the Central Highlands , the French named the Indigenous people ( Montagnards ) . Today , in the Central Highlands region was no longer colonized by the French , so you should not call the Central Highlands people are Montagnards because they have their own names , please call them " Native people or De Gar Champa". The Indigenous people in the Central Highlands have descended from the ancient Champa Kingdom , they moved to seek asylum in the deep forests for evade many wars in the coastal areas since 8th century to 16th century AD .
They include many nations: Ede, Xting, about 20 peoples .... well .. Currently, the civilization has schools, hospitals and farms, some are millionaires, successful as doctor, Century .. do not despise their masters. They participated in the colonial type, to be: France, Japan, USA, China minions are
Thank you for serving brother. Marines 1977-1981. Hang in there. I never saw combat but I have PTSD from childhood issues. I read and study the old ones.
You have NOTHING to be ashamed of. My dad was USMC in vietnam from 59-61. 3rd Marines. Then he was a DI. He was always so proud to be a Marine.Although I couldn't join the military, I share in that proudness. Let me know if I can help you.
the indigenous peoples of Southeast Asia must have their own fully rights and dignity to keep their homelands and their ancestors stories surviving from Vietnamese Kinh settler colonialism and Burmese ethnogenocide
That’s what happens when we get in civil wars we don’t understand and that are basically not winnable. The same kind of fate is likely for the Kurds as well. It’s horrible. Likely there were slaughters we know little about. What’s the answer? We were told that all the nations of SE Asia would fall to communism like dominoes once we left. Truth is that Vietnam is doing really well economically and is peaceful today as far as we can tell. It’s even a popular, peaceful and beautiful destination for our veterans and others. How did this happen? Because men like Carter and McCain put the past aside and negotiated a settlement that recognized The legitimacy of Vietnam as a nation and began trade that benefitted both our nations. Had we won the war, we would still be there and likely young Americans, who know nothing about these countries, would still be dismantling explosives and getting killed fighting insurgents from the north in a war that would continue to engulf every nation in the area.
Merlin5by5 My clan has been in the Huế area for 500 years since Nguyễn Hoàng came into the South. I've never heard of a Montagnards's capital anywhere near there. There was the ancient Cham city of Indrapura near present day Đà Nẳng which is just south of Huế. The wall you heard of was built in Đồng Hới in present day Quảng Trị Province by Đào Duy Từ for the Nguyễn Lords to protect against the Trịnh Lords in the North. For those who think that Vietnam has always been the way it is is wrong because this was the beginning of South Vietnam as a nation and identity. The people that lived under the Nguyễn are not all Vietnamese, it was a melting pot of Indo-Chinese. S Vietnam was as different from N Vietnam as the U.S. and Britain.
I actually was THERE, at the Dong Hoi walls, and helped discover the communist road down the center of the DMZ, during the last year of the war. Excuse me for the poor accenting on Dong Hoi. I pretty much can't do it in person, either.
EPluribusUnumSemper The French named ( Montagnards ) since 19th centuries . Ancient named Campapura ( Champa ) Chinese called" Lin Ye or Zhan Cheng " . They were descendant from the Kingdom of Champa , they lived in the Central Coast before 14th centuries A.D . They were moved to mountain due to war fought with Mongolians Army since last 13th centuries A.D. Hue was a ancient capital of Champa Kingdom , and Vijaya was a ancient capital of Champa in 15th centuries ( Qui Nhon , Binh Dinh today ). After Dai Viet invaded Vijaya 1471 , most Cham people fled to seek asylum in Hainan China, Cambodia , Banda Aceh Indonesia , and Malaysia . some Cham fled to mountain became Montagnards present day . If you want to know more about Montagnards ( Ede , Jarai ) please visit Champa history Wikipedia or Nguoi Ede ( Montagnards ) Wikipedia Tieng Viet.
I'm just going to leave this here.... America shout NOT have stepped in. They should have let the north and south deal with their own situation, whatever the result may have been.
I agree I was there 1967_68 all the people wanted was food too feed there family.lcpl.usmc all I wanted was to stay alive by the grace of god I am here this day.
Gary Vandagrifft As a member of the VFW, I have had the opportunity to talk to Vietnam vets. Your assessment of the situation in Vietnam.is the same assessment. I hear from those who were there. It did matter who was in charge. What matter to them is that bowl of rice.
Our fathers had struggled to have a country of our own,inspired by french protectors ,but finally we failed(A french explorers became a king of Sedang..,but failed because he could mot to bought weapons for them..Later Cambodia ,Thailand,Lao..want to conquered us to be them but they failed because our King(Roi du Feu,Fire King,and Roi de L'eau,Water King )performed a miracle and made them lost.In french time ,they want us to be an autonome country(Pays montagnard du sud indochinois,south indochinese montagnard country ,but fail)due to VC take over in 1948..)Later Frenh gave it to King Bao Dai(Domaine de la Couronne,,Crown Domain),and this King gave it to President Ngo Dinh Diem..)Amercans came to Highlands in 1953 and we enrolled with american Green Beret as VN army under the Republic of Vietnam.Hoping that Amercans will continue to help us(Vietnam to be a free democratic country...
a high-ranking US Military Advisor in 1953 almost made his friend, nationalist leader Ho Chi Minh, a US ally; but, the French told the US government that Ho was a communist-imperialist, wanting to expand communist power all over the region. So, the US went to war against North Viet Nam.
love the arguements, though Karl Marx would be ashamed of all the communists in this world due too being a dictatorship and not really for the People lol
David Griffin Marx sounds utopian, problem is all communists states are also fascist states because without the threat of punishment nobody works because nobody gets paid...
+Oilsmoke Jones Some communist states that become fascists share that ideology with the US. They go into partnership with the large corporations as Mussillini describes fascism.
but some times a american soldier can be a true soldier wich is not normal but its thier govermet thats poises them about honnor do your duty all that noneses by invade a another land takes its rices and leave people to starve
HOLY SHIT! That guy at 12:00 was fucking jacked af wtf? They didn't have protein powder, gyms or even knew what a push-up is and that guy has a better physique than most in my gym. They probably didn't even know what exercising was since it's probably just a waste of precious energy in their eyes. They obviously get enough of a workout in their work. I need his training regime.
@@risedante9897 the same thing would’ve happened anyway for a few years the Vietnamese were scared of the mountains because they thought they were haunted but before they had meet the Soviet Union and they raided the villages raped and every other horrible things
In every war there are winners and losers. Sad that some of the "losers" are a righteous and good people who simply chose the Wrong Side. You can die for a good cause but you are still dead... In Vietnam War of independance it seems that ALL that died were killed in a needless war that wouldn't have even occurred if the French hadn't been 'sore losers' and pulled out of their former Colony. USA confused our War Against Communism with a Vietnamese Nationalist fight for their Freedom and Independance, even if that came via accepting Communist Aid to back their Nationalist struggle.
Many Montagnards, who inhabited the Central Highlands of Vietnam, continued resisting the Vietnamese until the close of the Cold War in the early 1990s. By then, most of the one-half million Montagnards had either fled to refugee camps or resettled in the United States, majority in North Carolina.
War is absolute and total hell. When any war is over, it is never really over. If something is not done to stem ever growing conflict in the world , we will create our own demise. War is undoubtedly some kind of pathology in the human species.
Minoritys were the best fighters in VN, Montagnards, Chineses nungs, kambodians MIKE FORCE ! a SF stated during VN war : "pound for pound as good as US combat troops"
The Vietnamese had got rid of the French Colonialists. They wanted to rule their own country by themselves. Ho Chi Mihn was their leader and they could have done it. The Military/Industrial complex of America didn't agree. LBJ made sure they got their war.
+FRANCISCO POLLARDO the Vietnamese fought each other any time their is a power vacum created men step forward to fill it. you talk about political prisoners well the vc cut off folks heads and monted them on poles as object lessons of do not be seen as SVN gov sympathizer or sometimes just for recieving medical care from the americans war is hell it is not pretty people die and get limbs blown off....saddly the war did not have to happen at all had truman answered ho chi minhs letter in 1945 and supported a vietnam run by ho and not funded a nine year war where the french tried to reimpose their will on a subject peoples....these poor mountain tribesmen paid a heavy price they did not go to reeducation camps but were hunted to near extiction much like my own native ancestors in america
FRANCISCO POLLARDO no you dont know the truth you know the spin that the communist government puts forth and Jewish people had nothing to do with it the french owned vietnam by right of conquest for 80 years from about 1865-1954. the French were very cruel in putting down any nationalist movemnets by native peoples. it is not right for someone to be a second class citizen in there own nation. it was an existance much like slavery
FRANCISCO POLLARDO No Obama did not ask anyone once elected and a lame duck unable to run for reelection his true agenda was brought to light...their are Jews who are not Liberal just look at the Israeli military some rather right wing folk are in there but if you made up your mind to hate folk because of there religion I would like to point out Jesus was a practicing Jew also
the Soviet Union was not controled by Jews in fact they were descriminated against for having a religion other than communism comunism by the way came from germany not russia carl marx was german and the vietnamesse including ho learned communist idiology first from the french communist party when he was in france he only went to russia later...I would be much more concerned with the 1 billion muslims in this world than the 7.5 million Israelis the left in america is very stupid but then so is the extrem right a balance between the two is the best road as far as I am concerned and america should take care of its own citizens and bring its troops home from overseas and stop acting like the roman empire let the rest of the world go to hell if it wants too but the new one world order movement has closed all american factories pretty much nothing made here anymore
NO ! Not all mountain tribes fought for the invading armies .Many fought with their Vietnamese countrymen, against French and US invaders .N.V.A found them particularly useful in locating listening devices in deep jungle that were dropped by US aircraft , and they could be relocated away from trails used by transport etc .Thereby wasting enemy munitions .In the course of the war ,General Giap sent people to the tribes people to educate them ,causing more to leave the employ of US forces .
moon beam Always interesting to follow the links to profiles of these kind of posters,just to find that the origin is a blank page of anonymity. If your going to be a subversive, at least have some balls and identify yourself. Chickenbeam
moon beam- For your information, it was the North that were the invaders. Your information is all messed up! I suggest that you reeducate yourself in reality.
nightlightabcd Yeah ! Like the North en States invades the Southern States of America .Just as well there were no massive foreign colonial .& imperial armies ,like in the Vietnamese civil war .Millions would have died like flies ,like peasants died in Vietnam .winning the unification of their nation and independence . You have been exposed to propaganda ,the kind fed to teenage kids ,before being sent to Vietnam ,who eventually got wise and ended up "fragging " their officers and flinging their medals onto the Whitehouse steps. Educate YOURSELF by reading some excellent award winning histories by American authors ,with eye opening accounts ,what you have not been told in the corporate media eg Perfect War ---by US Professor at California University James Gibson --------------------------------------------------- Ex State Dept Employee NOW freelance Journalist and acclaimed international Author . William Blum KILLING HOPE .and AMERICAS DEADLIES EXPORT ;;DEMOCRACY . Be like a judge ,Study all viewpoints ,Then you can make up your mind . Whats REAL l and whats never ending propaganda .
Sure, why not. Cossacks supported Hitler but it didn't change the picture in eastern front. If you want to win a war you got to have majority of people behind you or at least not fiercely against you. Most of Vietnamese didn't want the war. American ruling class wanted that war and they got it. That's why Vietnamese people are still calling it: American War In Vietnam. It's the best name to that war. It was Americans waging a war in Vietnam asking no permission from people of Vietnam. Case closed!
The mountain tribes fucked each other ,Some tribes fought alongside their countrymen ,the Vietnamese resistance .Some fought for foreign invaders ie.French colonialist and later American imperialist . C.I.A were more than likely aping British colonial practices of "Divide and Rule "in their colonial "possessions "nothing new !.The tribes are simple , unsophisticated ,not even aware of what the war was about and the people who used them did not give a damn about possible recriminations by the majority of the Vietnamese people ,who would have been within their rights to have them shot for treason..Thankfully the reality, post war, regarding massacres of people who fought against own people by Vietnamese victors was much like other callous CIA war propaganda .LIES..Many people were amazed at the magnanimity of the Vietnamese in showing mercy and forgiveness to the ones who committed so many heinous war crimes against them ,even forgiving & making visiting US vets welcome .post war .Vietnamese who fought for the small catholic elite ,were sent on courses to detox them of misinformation fed them by the enemy .Worse war criminals faced trial ,and foot soldiers returned to society to help Vietnam to become what it is today ,The new Asian Tiger ,close trading partner with the USA & China .Many war criminals sought refuge in America..
I'm a Montagnard living in America. was brought here from the military forces back in the 70's. I'm from a tribe called Bru and proud. I'm adopted now due to my dads death which trained the American forces . my mom died saving me. I had nightmares for 3 years about my mother's death. I'm grateful that I'm living and help many people in life. peace with everyone and wish you well with your lives.
Blim Blam you have nothing to proud, zionist capitalist loser!
I served in SE Asia in the early 70s before the Vietnam war finally ended and all sides began picking up the pieces. The Montagnards were among the bravest, toughest, most reliable allies the US had in Laos/Vietnam. I deeply regret that the US failed to accommodate any and all Montagnard that desired relocation in the wake of the war but am extremely happy for those that did eventually make USA their home - WELCOME!
@@vevosontungm-tp1509 blim blam? Really?
@@vevosontungm-tp1509 being American is enough to make any man or woman proud
Good luck to you and your life. Peace.
my grand father was in vietnam war and he lived i think till '06 thank, you for serving current living vets! RIP grandpa
Thich Nhat Hanh lived along side Montagnards. He had to leave Vietnam. He walked with Martin Luther King who nominated him for Nobel Peace Award. He set up a community in France. Plum Village. Many American Veterans went to visit him and he helped them deal with horrors they experienced. Healing. He returned to.Vietnam recently to die. Peace is every step. One of his books. He took no side.
Leaving these people must have been very hard. I spent time in the East and became close to the hill people. I watched this with tears in my eyes as you never forget those days
They seem very African
I knew a Montagnard girl in college. Her father was one of those armed by the US, and they kept fighting even after the US left. After the communists took over, they would kill any Montagnard who had fought them. Eventually, they made in to Thailand and then the US after hiding in the jungle for months. She was just a little girl at the time, but she saw some really horrible things. Said the government solders would torture her people to death in the most horrible ways.
But her whole family survived, which she said was very rare for her people.
They beat my dad but he is alive
Chúng mày từ đâu đâu đến xâm chiếm Việt Nam giết hại thả bom vũ khí hóa học giết bao triệu dân lành , và rồi chúng mày mang vũ khí hiện đại ác độc đến , giờ chúng mày lại bảo cộng sản giết chúng mày . chúng mày là bọn tàn nhẫn
My grandfather was a med evac operative on a huey in this nightmare of a war. He was once tasked with finding the remains of a downed helicopter and it's crew deep in the jungle. when they landed, they walked for some time and found the wreckage of the huey. On the downed helicopter's side, the skulls of the crew were arranged in a line, with their dog tags around them. It is believed that one of these tribes, or, "mountain men" did this, out of respect of to give the men a proper rest til the remains were found.
These guys were true war heroes and totally betrayed by their allies. Watching documentaries and listening to podcasts about the SOG program in Vietnam, US servicemen are referred to by name but the Montagnard are just referred to as "yards". The US didn't see them as people, just pawns. They were used and abused and then abandoned. America should be ashamed.
Shame on America for using them against the communist and abandon them to be slaughtered the communist , including the babies, oldies in the villages...the communist even use chemical weapons to eradicate their villages/tribes.
Well said
Unfortunately this has been American military doctrine for seemingly, forever
They most certainly were not used and abused. Our special forces loved these guys. In fact many green berets helped bring mountagnards back to the US. Do your research before committing
They were being slaughtered before the US came and they were slaughtered after the US left.
I first established an aquaintance with the Montangards when I read the book "The Green Berets" by Robin Moore. From what I have learned since, the "yards" have more than overperformed as a counter-insurgency force. ^
That is why it saddens me that the US has largely left the Mountain tribes left out to dry.
And even more so, that the US have done the same to the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and Iran.
when an army/navy have no military objective to conquer (sp) ,, you cannot win,,, when you invade a country,,, you have no friends,,,
@Pøbel
Today Vietnam don't want to hear about this.They don't care.
Thank you for mentioning this. It's crazy we USA continues to abandon small indigenous tribes
I enjoyed this history lesson, thanks for sharing
Fantastic work by the excellent American Green Berets.
My Father, in the Dad advised Montagnards, to fight the Terrorist Foes.. SPECIAL FORCES!!! They are a "Special People(s)'... My Dad talked a lot about them, befriending them... Circ. early/middle, 1960's;
My Father was one, with a GROUP, based outta Ft. Bragg, (Special Forces, ventured into Laos * Cambodia) , 5th Special Forces Group, 5th SFG... God Bless those Folks
I've read about and listened to dozens of interviews with SF Operators of Vietnam. Many of them trained and fought along side indigenous soldiers (including "the 'Yards") and every single one praises the skill and determination of their Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Montegnard brothers in arms. MACV/SOG teams had more native men than American men, 3 American SF and 5+ Indigenous soldiers. The SOG guys always say their "indige" team members were disciplined, highly skilled, brave and instinctive warriors; relentless fighters who were tough as nails.
Btw- South Korean soldiers were also respected and admired allies in Vietnam, who often struck fear in the NVA and VC soldiers.
My father was in vietnam, laos and cambodia '59-'60. No uniform, no ID, had ak's. Worked with the CIA and answered directly to the JCOS. They sabotaged fuel depots, ammo supplies, blew up bridges. Also worked with he Montagnards. This was all pre SOG. I believe he might have been part of Operation Hotfoot.
but like most documentaries you learn something astounding by watching something completely different. For me all the fighting on the hill and "highlands" make a hell of a lot more sense now,thanks to this documentary.
Sitting in a monsoon under a big rock, the Montagnard approached us and tossed over a dozen decapitated 'Cong heads around the small fire, in exchange for cigarettes and coffee.
These guys could appear and disappear out of nowhere. They were and always be..
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
We are a "hard" people, and fiercely independent. Fuck the Vietnamese!
The Yards were TOUGH. That’s an understatement.
10 or so Australians working for the US were instrumental in getting these tribe to arms and trained in jungle warfare. These Aussies were Malayan veterans that already knew jungle warfare which was new to the US.
the US should've put Aussies and Brits, Gurkhas, in charge of MAC-V, GHQ, Pentagon, DoD...
Great documentary :)
Great video. A little slice of history. It just breaks my heart to see these people, and know of the reprisals ahead once the South falls.
Yes, they were slaughtered by the communist...the U.S use them to fight the communist then abandon them to the communist.
@24:33 That guy has some Converse shoes on, nice.
What's the name of that tribe? They were arming
As a youngster I worked at a hospital I met a friend his name was Chaney a Vietnam vet he would speak of the war but he and other comrades spoke highly of this people , respect ✊🏿 and they looked out for each other
Great Video. It let me see much of what I did not see when I was there in the early 1970s.
Frenchs betrayed montangards, americans also! The montagnards have friends only peopel, no countrys or governs."Laugh and joke with you, don't believe i love you"
Yes, they were betrayed by the U.S. and left to be slaughtered by the communist.
These tribal people sound really lovely, a bit like the old Germanic tribes where the Wives would go along to the battles and cook dinner and cheer on their men folk. Of course and why not? We are all in this together.
Most People if given basic rights and able to live honorably , they will be happy and be supportive of the government of the day.
I served with 4th inf divison 10th armored cav. in the centrail highlands. we had a mixture of RAVIN and montagnard in B troop. The nards were better soldiers than the south ARVIN if American trained .
Thanks
Merlin5by5 Yup there was definitely animosity because the Montagnards were the indigenous inhabitants of South Vietnam before it was conquered and colonized by the Champa and later by the Nguyen Lords, just like the relationship between Native Americans and Europeans. I was born in the Central Highland and grew up along side the Ra Đê and the Degar and they were very wonderful people. There were no animosity from them, but they hate the Communist just as much as we do for persecuting them. Within the last few week there were protest in the Highland over religious freedom, and many Montagnard Mennonite were arrested.
Yeah, although it's a little in debate, the Montagnards are supposed to have built their capital as Hue, the erstwhile regional capital of Region 1. Pretty City. They also built the walls that pre-date the DMZ, against the Champa?
Merlin5by5 You're right , Indrapura (Hue today ) was a Champa capital from 4th to 12th centuries A.D. Our ancestral capital was not only in Amaravati ( Da Nang today ) , but also in Vijaya ( Qui Nhon , Binh Dinh present day .
These were mine when i was born or friends were the same generation.
Does anyone know what year this film was made/released?
Loin cloth, combat boots, M1 carbine, rice bowl. Warriors.
Very good
We are Montagnard indigenous ,we want our country back . Vietnamese, VN get out from our land leave us alone
If you want it back take it back, no one stopping you but the Vietnamese
@@eVerProductions1 Easier said than done. Although, I saw some footage recently that seems to be of Montagnards drilling with uniforms and rifles…I don’t know if they’re gonna start another insurrection or what, but I hope they gain autonomy one day.
I knew LLDB - Green Beret in High mountain ranges PleiKu , Kontum , Quang Duc , Buon Ma Thuot ....
Your Operations was thrilling battles yet .
Interesting
Finally a song I recognize! At the beginning, Bydlo, from Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition.
+Mushyrulez Thanks! I was looking for exactly that information!!!
I'm a Montagnard living in America as well. Here representing the Halang tribe.
nice
I’m representing for the Degar tribe
What year was this documentary made?
Who made this doc and when ?
The Hmong (Montagnard) people were excellent fighters and very brave. They endured the discrimination of the South Vietnamese and the oppression of the North Vietnamese. If the South Vietnamese Army (ARVN) had been more like the Montagnards in terms of their fierce independence, South Vietnam might be like South Korea today - free. Weapons don't win wars - people do. In 1776 the American colonists beat the single world power of its day, The British Empire, because we had a unifying purpose and the will to win. The lesson from Vietnam (or any oppressed people) is that democracy cannot be a gift - it must be fought for and earned - something the South Vietnamese were unable or unwilling to do. The real and often underreported tragedy of America's war in Vietnam is that we ended up abandoning the Montagnard people who fought so well.
now dog eat dog
People who think slave owners or Jim Crow racists were/are liberals are completely insane. Who waves confederate flags today? Conservatives. The north was liberal and south conservative, and they still are. The party platforms on race switched. This is common historical and political knowledge. Your ignorance is poison, pure dishonest trash.
Im "Hmong" First Generation Born here in America & im Glad to be here today in America because my GrandFather Cpt. Xai Tou Heu fought for the CIA (Secert Army) during war time.
Hmong and Montagnards are 2 different tribe they are not together
Montagnard is an umbrella term for indigenous Vietnamese Central Highlanders/Cambodian Northern Highlanders, and Hmong isn't included as they're indigenous Vietnam, China and Laos, not Vietnam and Cambodia
Коммунисты во Вьетнаме французам настучали по голове, а потом и американцам. СССР помогал всем, чем мог в этом хорошем деле.
I miss My home land.Ana Cu
I Hear you. Am from Song Be, Phouc Long
come back. VN number-1 today. Hoi An very nice.
I was a Special Forces medic stationed for a short time in Ban me Thout, central highlands. Nice people trying to survive in an environment not of their making.
The Montagnard were was one of our biggest allies in Vietnam. I lived this conflict in 1969 and they we true fighters to keep their country FREE! They were there before most tribes/people of Vietnmam. The Montagnard loved to kill Cong!!! They have been fighting to keep their country and their ways. for centuries! Thet are somewhat a primitive people ... BUT DEADLY!!!
The US abonded not only Vietnam but consistantly lied to each and every soldier in the USA forces!!! The war was a lie from the start to the finish!! Our commanders said this war can be won-- LIE!! They said to KILL these people but they were only protecting their conunry from INVADERS!!!
teknik gerilya sangat ampuh
Scooter Bridges! 2nd ROK MAR BGD! 71-72 Blue Dragons.
should have never Bern there left half a leg there
In late 70 or early 71 my first sergeant ordered me to drive him in the company jeep to one of the firebases of our division, the 101st Airborne in South Vietnam. All we had were two M16s. I think we were delivering mail. We probably drove about fifty miles one way over dirt roads. We went through some plantations and teak forests but I remember going through an area of cardboard houses and the first sergeant thought they were Montagnards. I have never seen a poorer people. They must have been punished by the NVA for fighting for the US.
You are absolutely right! They were oppressed the government even took their land and their basic rights away from them.
+Thatf Rmah Must have been tough after having their self respect bought by the US Army and later finding they were criminals helping the CIA international drugs business.
+Thatf Rmah Yeah but were the criminals, we're the bad guys. when our dads came home the hippies spat on them and called them war criminals and pigs. Meanwhile the VC massacres Viet nam's indiginous and commit horrible attrocities that would make Hitler blush.
and russia didn't crush chechnyan independence in order to steal all the oil-all what putin sells to europe, besides the weapons he sells to syria.
they deserved it,never betray your country no for usa or any other fucker no matter where you are from.
Merlin5by5 That's interesting because Đồng Hới was in North Vietnam north of the DMZ. From what I've heard that there were two set of walls made of mud and bamboo and thorny plants. Most people told me that there is very little trace of the walls left since the Tây Sơn unified the country several hundred years ago it was left to ruined.
While I wasn't north of the DMZ, officially, I was IN the DMZ, working for what was left of SOG after it decamped at the end of 73. I was in Saigon till the last day of the war, and I can see myself on videos of the embassy rooftop, during the Helicopter evacuation. While the walls were slumped and eroded, they were there, and I camped near them.
Yes, Kaiser, the Special Forces trained the Montagnard people till the end of the war, and tried to evacuate them from their mountains. The Vietnamese hated them intensely, as the Montagnard hated the Vietnamese, but specially the NVA. I never saw a Montagnard surrender, and I never saw a Montagnard betray his tribe with the Vietnamese. Moon beam doesn't know what he speaks of, and is an idiot. When a Montagnard fell, we recovered the body, and returned it to his mountain tribe, and the tribe would gather, and we would tell his entire tribe, of the soldiers brave death, as his funeral.
Finally someone who knows whats his talking about !. The Montgnards naturally chose the right side, but unfortunately they, and their Allies got defeated. Due to the political process that followed this tragic war. What I find most disturbing however, is that these brave, and highly loyal tribesmen paid the ultimate price in the most gruesome of ways. As you know already, they had nowhere to go when the Communists took over the South. Everything possible should always be made to help ones Allies, no matter what happens in the so-called "endgames", or whatever the politicians like to call these terrible events.
The U.S did indeed manage to evacuate some of them to safety, and launched some relief-programs etc. to help those, and others, who had fought for the The RVN, and on the Allied side.
But as I see it, not nearly as many as should have been helped, got it in time for various reasons I am not fully aware of. Or received any, and that is under the conditions, understandable in some cases considering the chaos, and all. The U.S Special Forces, some other units, and the U.S Ambassador&Co did their outmost, and everything what they could, Ive heard.
If there is something really of worth passing on to the future generations of servicepersonnel, and Especially the future decisionmakers, is atleast the Fundamental importance of getting every last one out, as far as it possibly can be done if, things really get as bad as they eventually did back then in -75.
I wonder what The SE would look like today, if only the South had won, or if there would have been a somewhat similar truce, as in Korea. I suppose atleast the free people of the South, would produce all kinda gizmos, and live a relatively happy life.
Patrick Ilmoni The Montagnard people wanted to stay and fight, they didn't want to give up their homeland. US special forces (I was one), had to take out those who were paymasters for their soldiers, spies on the Vietnamese, or those who would be turned over by the Vietnamese. They left sadly.
The Vietnamese unleashed yellow rain chemical warfare on them, in substantial amounts, and eventually some made it out by going through Cambodia, a nightmare in itself.
Merlin5by5
I can imagine that they didnt lack any motivation, but there must have been some who knew that their odds of surviving in that enviroment alone, sadly were quite slim. I hope they got away, by any means possible. Especially the very possible need to evacuate the whole community of their civilians.
When was this yellow rain first reported ?
Because I remember reading that it was a controversial subject in the 80s, that was debated back, and forth back then among reporters, and researchers. Some said the Soviets were involved, others said it was the regime in Hanoi acting alone. There was even speculation about the whole incident being somekinda fabricated story. But the Soviet attache, or somebody like that, anyways vehemently denied any involvement, ofcourse.
I have never come across any hard evidence to support this claim, tough I would not be the least surprised if it were true.
Patrick Ilmoni Yellow rain was first reported right after the fall of Saigon, and was being tested on an open valley that had been denied to the Vietnamese during the whole war, so it was definitely revenge. It's a toxic combination of Sarin and biological poisons, including Ricin and T-2 Mycotoxin, a definite Russian contribution. Alexander Haig got samples provided by Hmong and Montagnard tribal warriors that crossed Cambodia to provide them. Each of the couriers died bringing samples, even though they were taught precautions, given haz material suits, and used metal cannisters.
Merlin5by5
In which valley was this attack carried out , and by what means was it was deployed ?. There was alot of revenge actions going on at that time, and the Vietnamese Gulags were "starting" up with their "re-education" efforts. Ironically. some of the new inmates, were partly former VC, who had to share quarters, with the unfortunate Southerners. I guess the politburoo did not trust all of their "heroes", Ive heard. In those days the route through Cambodia sounds a bit too risky, but I suppose it is possible for these people to do, given the right circumstances & guys for the job. I will definately look into these A.Haigs samples. You mentioned that they were deploying some sort of cocktail of really nasty stuff. But what is the use of doing such a seemingly complex poison, doesnt Sarin kill people quickly enough ?
I have another question. Do you happen to know, by whom, or by whos orders was an ancient Champa-site in the Central-highlands destroyed ? This act of vandalism was reported to have taken place back in -68 Ive read. At the time there was some controversy surrounding this event, and the French atleast raised alot of hell over this incident in diplomatic circles.
A central piece of delicately carved stone phalloses & other relics were destroyed. Allegedly by an demolitions team, but for what reason ?
Some say it was used as an observation post by the VC, but given the location in the bottom of a deep valley, this doesnt make much sense to me.
There is a current excavation going on in this famous valley, with German&French archeologists, if I recall.
Anyways, there was this huge white stone dick, in the middle of their ancient temple complex. It is said to have been the most unique, of several quite similar pieces of art. I have tried to get to the bottom of this incident of cultural vandalism, but very few proper records of this event do shed any light on the perpetrators, as you can imagine.
As far as I know, everybody blames the other part for destroying it. I can understand that art- work often goes "missing", or gets accidentally destroyed in the chaos of a warzone, but never, ever accept it. What the these religious fundamentalists are doing in Mali for instance, is despicable and sheer insanity. Just like in the case with the destruction of the Bamian Buddha. That is why I would like to know, who did what it in the valley of the Champas, and why.
Thank You . The Special Forces Green Beret in Viet Nam .
Your fights and sacrificed for VN . We will never forget .
HOÀNG Hoa Thám. Thank you.
salute
Stupid
American killed Vietnamese and You say thanks to them
Are You ok?
HOÀNG Hoa Thám bn
During the French colonial period in the Central Highlands , the French named the Indigenous people ( Montagnards ) . Today , in the Central Highlands region was no longer colonized by the French , so you should not call the Central Highlands people are Montagnards because they have their own names , please call them " Native people or De Gar Champa". The Indigenous people in the Central Highlands have descended from the ancient Champa Kingdom , they moved to seek asylum in the deep forests for evade many wars in the coastal areas since 8th century to 16th century AD .
Thanks for that info
they did not descend from champa....
They include many nations: Ede, Xting, about 20 peoples .... well .. Currently, the civilization has schools, hospitals and farms, some are millionaires, successful as doctor, Century .. do not despise their masters. They participated in the colonial type, to be: France, Japan, USA, China minions are
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they called us annamite
The Central Highland was incorporated into Vietnam followed Emperor Hong Duc's conquest of Champa in 1471.
As a former Marine I struggle with still being here on earth, old saying "better to die in war then live in shame".
Hang in there. It's hard to keep going, I know...but you'll be o.k.
Thank you for serving brother. Marines 1977-1981. Hang in there. I never saw combat but I have PTSD from childhood issues. I read and study the old ones.
You have NOTHING to be ashamed of. My dad was USMC in vietnam from 59-61. 3rd Marines. Then he was a DI. He was always so proud to be a Marine.Although I couldn't join the military, I share in that proudness. Let me know if I can help you.
well, Americans are living in shame now.
@@barrysmith1202 you might be but most of us aren’t. We aren’t wallowing in self pity of senseless bullshit like a fucking weak coward.
the indigenous peoples of Southeast Asia must have their own fully rights and dignity to keep their homelands and their ancestors stories surviving from Vietnamese Kinh settler colonialism and Burmese ethnogenocide
the tiger man 1963, 28-year-old Australian Captain Barry Petersen.read this book and google his story.
O:49 Roy Benevidaz
In meghalaya tribe is khasi(khasi tribe) they are camed from Vietnam i think.
That’s what happens when we get in civil wars we don’t understand and that are basically not winnable. The same kind of fate is likely for the Kurds as well. It’s horrible. Likely there were slaughters we know little about. What’s the answer? We were told that all the nations of SE Asia would fall to communism like dominoes once we left. Truth is that Vietnam is doing really well economically and is peaceful today as far as we can tell. It’s even a popular, peaceful and beautiful destination for our veterans and others. How did this happen? Because men like Carter and McCain put the past aside and negotiated a settlement that recognized The legitimacy of Vietnam as a nation and began trade that benefitted both our nations. Had we won the war, we would still be there and likely young Americans, who know nothing about these countries, would still be dismantling explosives and getting killed fighting insurgents from the north in a war that would continue to engulf every nation in the area.
"There's no such thing as a winnable war. It's a lie we don't believe anymore" -Sting
Merlin5by5 My clan has been in the Huế area for 500 years since Nguyễn Hoàng came into the South. I've never heard of a Montagnards's capital anywhere near there. There was the ancient Cham city of Indrapura near present day Đà Nẳng which is just south of Huế. The wall you heard of was built in Đồng Hới in present day Quảng Trị Province by Đào Duy Từ for the Nguyễn Lords to protect against the Trịnh Lords in the North. For those who think that Vietnam has always been the way it is is wrong because this was the beginning of South Vietnam as a nation and identity. The people that lived under the Nguyễn are not all Vietnamese, it was a melting pot of Indo-Chinese. S Vietnam was as different from N Vietnam as the U.S. and Britain.
I actually was THERE, at the Dong Hoi walls, and helped discover the communist road down the center of the DMZ, during the last year of the war. Excuse me for the poor accenting on Dong Hoi. I pretty much can't do it in person, either.
EPluribusUnumSemper The French named ( Montagnards ) since 19th centuries . Ancient named Campapura ( Champa ) Chinese called" Lin Ye or Zhan Cheng " . They were descendant from the Kingdom of Champa , they lived in the Central Coast before 14th centuries A.D . They were moved to mountain due to war fought with Mongolians Army since last 13th centuries A.D. Hue was a ancient capital of Champa Kingdom , and Vijaya was a ancient capital of Champa in 15th centuries ( Qui Nhon , Binh Dinh today ). After Dai Viet invaded Vijaya 1471 , most Cham people fled to seek asylum in Hainan China, Cambodia , Banda Aceh Indonesia , and Malaysia . some Cham fled to mountain became Montagnards present day . If you want to know more about Montagnards ( Ede , Jarai ) please visit Champa history Wikipedia or Nguoi Ede ( Montagnards ) Wikipedia Tieng Viet.
I'm just going to leave this here.... America shout NOT have stepped in. They should have let the north and south deal with their own situation, whatever the result may have been.
no we had to try stop the imperial communist form taking over free lands they lusted over
I agree I was there 1967_68 all the people wanted was food too feed there family.lcpl.usmc all I wanted was to stay alive by the grace of god I am here this day.
Gary Vandagrifft As a member of the VFW, I have had the opportunity to talk to Vietnam vets. Your assessment of the situation in Vietnam.is the same assessment. I hear from those who were there. It did matter who was in charge. What matter to them is that bowl of rice.
You're right should a let'm fight their own fuckin war!
I agree, let'em fight own damn battles, what did we get out of this ? A loss of thousands of lives and they're still a communist country!
History repeat it self, or rhymes but the suffering is the same.
Little changes. Syria, Iraq today.
well said, Sillywalk! :)
War has no other product than destruction
Our fathers had struggled to have a country of our own,inspired by french protectors ,but finally we failed(A french explorers became a king of Sedang..,but failed because he could mot to bought weapons for them..Later Cambodia ,Thailand,Lao..want to conquered us to be them but they failed because our King(Roi du Feu,Fire King,and Roi de L'eau,Water King )performed a miracle and made them lost.In french time ,they want us to be an autonome country(Pays montagnard du sud indochinois,south indochinese montagnard country ,but fail)due to VC take over in 1948..)Later Frenh gave it to King Bao Dai(Domaine de la Couronne,,Crown Domain),and this King gave it to President Ngo Dinh Diem..)Amercans came to Highlands in 1953 and we enrolled with american Green Beret as VN army under the Republic of Vietnam.Hoping that Amercans will continue to help us(Vietnam to be a free democratic country...
a high-ranking US Military Advisor in 1953 almost made his friend, nationalist leader Ho Chi Minh, a US ally; but, the French told the US government that Ho was a communist-imperialist, wanting to expand communist power all over the region. So, the US went to war against North Viet Nam.
1:10 dude wearing a pair of chucks
Wow! Political arguement! YAY!
Anytime you take a photo or video of yourself doing a good deed, it's not a good deed. your just looking for recognition.
+bill swinford I agree bill and also bill you forgot to include wanting recognition if speaking of oneself doing of a good deed
love the arguements, though Karl Marx would be ashamed of all the communists in this world due too being a dictatorship and not really for the People lol
David Griffin Marx sounds utopian, problem is all communists states are also fascist states because without the threat of punishment nobody works because nobody gets paid...
+Oilsmoke Jones Some communist states that become fascists share that ideology with the US. They go into partnership with the large corporations as Mussillini describes fascism.
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but some times a american soldier can be a true soldier wich is not normal but its thier govermet thats poises them about honnor do your duty all that noneses by invade a another land takes its rices and leave people to starve
dont you graduate kamikaze school today after you test
I am Montagnar
Good on you
@@gustonzimasheen thank you
HOLY SHIT! That guy at 12:00 was fucking jacked af wtf? They didn't have protein powder, gyms or even knew what a push-up is and that guy has a better physique than most in my gym. They probably didn't even know what exercising was since it's probably just a waste of precious energy in their eyes. They obviously get enough of a workout in their work. I need his training regime.
who told that man standing on a tree cutting it with a ax to put a shirt on? he didnt even button it. Good training for the camera,nope.
Something very sad and typical about this. Reminds me of the Gurkhas
My grampa was 5th sf group.
The Senoi Prag fr Malaysia also the, then.. Why Vietnam assisting'em now,..
Defend their own home? No one was attacking them, they were completely out of that war...
Only endangered them and dragged them into the war.
Lilian The vietcong and the nva will attack their home or the south korean will.
choose side or die
fucking stupid usa, drag them into this meaningless war
@@risedante9897 the same thing would’ve happened anyway for a few years the Vietnamese were scared of the mountains because they thought they were haunted but before they had meet the Soviet Union and they raided the villages raped and every other horrible things
Wow you do realize this could easily happen to mankind as we know it ..
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In every war there are winners and losers. Sad that some of the "losers" are a righteous and good people who simply chose the Wrong Side. You can die for a good cause but you are still dead... In Vietnam War of independance it seems that ALL that died were killed in a needless war that wouldn't have even occurred if the French hadn't been 'sore losers' and pulled out of their former Colony. USA confused our War Against Communism with a Vietnamese Nationalist fight for their Freedom and Independance, even if that came via accepting Communist Aid to back their Nationalist struggle.
LETS ALL GET WASTED OFF OF RICE WINE
What happened to these people after the fall of South Vietnam?
Many Montagnards, who inhabited the Central Highlands of Vietnam, continued resisting the Vietnamese until the close of the Cold War in the early 1990s. By then, most of the one-half million Montagnards had either fled to refugee camps or resettled in the United States, majority in North Carolina.
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Progress??
Are their any left today that were not killed ?
Most are all in North Carolina like Charlotte and Greensboro
These guys were left high and dry!!! Shameful USA..
War is absolute and total hell. When any war is over, it is never really over. If something is not done to stem ever growing conflict in the world , we will create our own demise. War is undoubtedly some kind of pathology in the human species.
Minoritys were the best fighters in VN, Montagnards, Chineses nungs, kambodians
MIKE FORCE ! a SF stated during VN war : "pound for pound as good as US combat troops"
A good friend of mine was an intelligence officer in the war, he said the Nung he worked with were very fierce fighters.
Anyone here is K'Ho
give them all clothes and they still dont wear pants. that would be a tough one to get used too! lol
it's so damn hot & humid in Vietnam. No pants makes more sense
1:11 a guy has a pair of chuck Taylor's on lmao we're the fuck did they get chuck ts in the 60s in Vietnam
+justin roderick dude, when I was in school in the early 60´s every redblooded kid wore them. what if that guys family sent him some?
change the color of the corpses.
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The Vietnamese had got rid of the French Colonialists.
They wanted to rule their own country by themselves.
Ho Chi Mihn was their leader and they could have done it.
The Military/Industrial complex of America didn't agree.
LBJ made sure they got their war.
Shawn Thompson Excuse these Communist fucks. He might been paid to leave these kind of absurd comments
+FRANCISCO POLLARDO the Vietnamese fought each other any time their is a power vacum created men step forward to fill it. you talk about political prisoners well the vc cut off folks heads and monted them on poles as object lessons of do not be seen as SVN gov sympathizer or sometimes just for recieving medical care from the americans war is hell it is not pretty people die and get limbs blown off....saddly the war did not have to happen at all had truman answered ho chi minhs letter in 1945 and supported a vietnam run by ho and not funded a nine year war where the french tried to reimpose their will on a subject peoples....these poor mountain tribesmen paid a heavy price they did not go to reeducation camps but were hunted to near extiction much like my own native ancestors in america
FRANCISCO POLLARDO no you dont know the truth you know the spin that the communist government puts forth and Jewish people had nothing to do with it the french owned vietnam by right of conquest for 80 years from about 1865-1954. the French were very cruel in putting down any nationalist movemnets by native peoples. it is not right for someone to be a second class citizen in there own nation. it was an existance much like slavery
FRANCISCO POLLARDO No Obama did not ask anyone once elected and a lame duck unable to run for reelection his true agenda was brought to light...their are Jews who are not Liberal just look at the Israeli military some rather right wing folk are in there but if you made up your mind to hate folk because of there religion I would like to point out Jesus was a practicing Jew also
the Soviet Union was not controled by Jews in fact they were descriminated against for having a religion other than communism comunism by the way came from germany not russia carl marx was german and the vietnamesse including ho learned communist idiology first from the french communist party when he was in france he only went to russia later...I would be much more concerned with the 1 billion muslims in this world than the 7.5 million Israelis the left in america is very stupid but then so is the extrem right a balance between the two is the best road as far as I am concerned and america should take care of its own citizens and bring its troops home from overseas and stop acting like the roman empire let the rest of the world go to hell if it wants too but the new one world order movement has closed all american factories pretty much nothing made here anymore
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And then these people were abandoned, the Kurds in Syria should take note of how our government treats our "allies".
and the Hmong in Laos, as well. They were persecuted by the Communists after backing the Americans, who then left most of them high and dry.
Did US Special Forces train the Montagnard people all the way till the end of the Vietnam war?
NO ! Not all mountain tribes fought for the invading armies .Many fought with their Vietnamese countrymen, against French and US invaders .N.V.A found them particularly useful in locating listening devices in deep jungle that were dropped by US aircraft , and they could be relocated away from trails used by transport etc .Thereby wasting enemy munitions .In the course of the war ,General Giap sent people to the tribes people to educate them ,causing more to leave the employ of US forces .
moon beam Always interesting to follow the links to profiles of these kind of posters,just to find that the origin is a blank page of anonymity. If your going to be a subversive, at least have some balls and identify yourself. Chickenbeam
Tom Reynolds Childish comment ,from a schoolboy ,maybe ? .
moon beam- For your information, it was the North that were the invaders. Your information is all messed up! I suggest that you reeducate yourself in reality.
nightlightabcd
Yeah ! Like the North en States invades the Southern States of America .Just as well there were no massive foreign colonial .& imperial armies ,like in the Vietnamese civil war .Millions would have died like flies ,like peasants died in Vietnam .winning the unification of their nation and independence .
You have been exposed to propaganda ,the kind fed to teenage kids ,before being sent to Vietnam ,who eventually got wise and ended up "fragging " their officers and flinging their medals onto the Whitehouse steps.
Educate YOURSELF by reading some excellent award winning histories by American authors ,with eye opening accounts ,what you have not been told in the corporate media eg
Perfect War ---by US Professor at California University James Gibson
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Ex State Dept Employee NOW freelance Journalist and acclaimed international Author .
William Blum KILLING HOPE .and AMERICAS DEADLIES EXPORT ;;DEMOCRACY .
Be like a judge ,Study all viewpoints ,Then you can make up your mind . Whats REAL l and whats never ending propaganda .
De madre
Sure, why not. Cossacks supported Hitler but it didn't change the picture in eastern front. If you want to win a war you got to have majority of people behind you or at least not fiercely against you. Most of Vietnamese didn't want the war. American ruling class wanted that war and they got it. That's why Vietnamese people are still calling it: American War In Vietnam. It's the best name to that war. It was Americans waging a war in Vietnam asking no permission from people of Vietnam. Case closed!
The Vietnamese took the land away from tribe’s just like the British taking the land away from the native Americans
You don't fuck with The Montagnard
The mountain tribes fucked each other ,Some tribes fought alongside their countrymen ,the Vietnamese resistance .Some fought for foreign invaders ie.French colonialist and later American imperialist . C.I.A were more than likely aping British colonial practices of "Divide and Rule "in their colonial "possessions "nothing new !.The tribes are simple , unsophisticated ,not even aware of what the war was about and the people who used them did not give a damn about possible recriminations by the majority of the Vietnamese people ,who would have been within their rights to have them shot for treason..Thankfully the reality, post war, regarding massacres of people who fought against own people by Vietnamese victors was much like other callous CIA war propaganda .LIES..Many people were amazed at the magnanimity of the Vietnamese in showing mercy and forgiveness to the ones who committed so many heinous war crimes against them ,even forgiving & making visiting US vets welcome .post war .Vietnamese who fought for the small catholic elite ,were sent on courses to detox them of misinformation fed them by the enemy .Worse war criminals faced trial ,and foot soldiers returned to society to help Vietnam to become what it is today ,The new Asian Tiger ,close trading partner with the USA & China .Many war criminals sought refuge in America..
nightlightabcd
Try and make an intelligent comment .or you will be seen as just a troll .
specially not the CIDG
not with cidg