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It's NOT available on the Pro/Plus on Android! There are millions of us who will NEVER use apple. So no it is NOT currently available!
Note to Android users: Borrow an iPhone, get the Wiim Home app for it, do the correction, and Wiim saves it to your Wiim device. It will now show up as a custom PEQ setting in the Wiim home app in Android. You just need the iPhone to do the initial correction.
Will an iPad do or does it have to be iPhone?
I was just coming to say this must be iPhone only for now, I don't have it room correction on Android app version 2.10.4.240710.ebc096
Unfortunately it will probably never come to Android due to the inconsistency in microphones used across Android devices. I wish they would make it available for select Android devices at least. Like Samsung Galaxy S and Pixels
Wow. Thanks for the helpful tip!
iPad works!!!!!!
This is one of the main reasons I follow the cheap audio man. This update made a huge difference in my small room with nodes in the 46 and 56 Hz that needed up to 10 db of correction. Thanks!
Were those dips or peaks that were corrected?
Most likely peaks.
I have a very small listening room. It has room nodes at about 46 and 55 Hz. These are peaks. I have modest room treatment but it is not enough to remove those peaks. I used to use a subwoofer to mitigate some of those peaks (it actually works to level out room modes). My ONLY comment to room correction is that I did notice that the sound was more compressed or a bit "digitazed.". All rooms have modes. I do prefer the unfiltered output at lower volumes, without any EQ. It sounds more natural and analog.
Also works in the WIIM Amp, i just updated mine.. blown away with the difference... sound 100% better after the room correction! Also helped me tune my subwoofer output because its terribly hard to EQ by ear bookshelf speakers + and active subweefer so they all sounds like one orchestra
thanks, about to ask the question you answer :D
Funny enough on my first calibration run with my WiiM Amp I was a bit underwhelmed.
But ran it again, starting with a decent volume on the Amp. Difference of night and day...
Hi, Is that a particular model of WIIM amp?
I would bet that the reason it only works on iPhone is because there's only a limited set of microphone calibrations that they have to generate and store in the software. As opposed to Android where there have to be hundreds if not thousands of microphone calibrations they would have to make and store away. What would be really nice, is if they allowed you to click a button for Android to say that you're using a calibrated microphone like the one you can get from parts Express for $20 or so.
You are absolutely correct. My shop repairs Apple products and I've spoken to a few folks about this and your deduction is absolutely spot on.
An Android beta will kick off in a few weeks time
Or, build a calibration tool right into the app. I know, dreaming. But not too bad.
@@sneakyds How will they support all the different models?
Yup - you are absolutely correct . Hit nail right on the head
Tried to find the Room Correction on my Android app, looks like it may just be available on the Wiim iOS apps at this time. But after using my wife's phone, worked like a dream and definitely made a difference!....just saw the end of the video and you said it.
They’re opening a beta for this in the coming weeks
Yeah, but you have to listen to "see iPhones are better" 😆
This is why you buy your wives the expensive stuff haha. Same situation for me. Gotta be nice and swipe that iphone for the correction bit soon.
The phone microphone needs to be corrected to operate as a reference microphone. Unfortunately, there's too large a variety of Android devices for a small compney to do that.
Maybe we may see some Samsung app availability but I doubt we will see much more.
Apparently the room correction is NOT just for ios systems. I used my google pixel and got room correction. It was fine, and I spent a couple hours futzing around with the settings and all that....definitely rabbit hole territory.
In the end, I liked how I had set the EQ without room correction more than how WIIM thought it should be, but definitely a cool feature.
What I learned: It saves the room correction settings in the parametric eq side as "auto". You can save this settings and then run the room correction test again in a different place and have an A vs B correction test.
The other cool thing in the software update is the ability to have each input separately EQ'd and saved. I have the Klipsch 7's and we've been begging for this since the beginning.
Wiim is as nimble as a ninja gremlin
It worked on my Pixel as well!
Hi Randy. If you go to the EQ settings after you've done the room correction (it shows auto and has the parametric eq settings derived from the correction), you can swipe up and get the specific settings for 10 frequencies. From there you can change the filter, frequency, gain and Q factor (what is that...) for each of the 10 frequencies and save it with a custom name. Then if you change the room treatment - ie close the curtains, you can just use the saved eq setting for that room. It is a great tool! And with tweaking I got it even better by injecting extra loudness for the quiet times and various custom eq settings for various music.
Wow. That’s awesome. Thanks for diving deeper
Q is basically the filter bandwidth in an EQ. A high Q is a narrow notch filter, while a low Q is a wide one.
@@NukePooch1 Thanks! I can see how that'd be quite handy.
I am officially dizzy with all these options!
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I love how you correct yourself on the screen. You sure do remind me of me. I am so thankful you are on CZcams.
I've read that the reason some of these room correction software pkgs only work on iphones is that the software knows exactly what's in a given iphone. There aren't dozens of variations of microphones like there are in the android world. I guess they could make software that only works on whatever the biggest android model their is but instead they just seem to move on.
There’s no single Android phone model that’s sold enough to justify the development cost, even phones released the same year by the same company have different mic specs, ex: Samsung S24 Ultra and Fold 5, you would need a different algorithm for for both
Did the room correction - shockingly it actually worked.
My amp is dialled in and the listening experience improved.
Thank you so very much for bringing this feature of my Wiim Pro to my attention. I had no idea that a feature I wanted badly from the Wiim Pro Ultra was already available on my Wiim Pro. I have a very small space and this new feature was transformative. My booming bass went away. My shrill highs went away. My system sounds 100% better.
I did it a week or so ago with my WIIM Amp. It’s a pretty significant difference in an 12 x 13 room with carpet and lots of sweet framed concert posters and framed concert pics I’ve taken over the last 20ish years. Now get me LOSSLESS Apple Music playback!!!!!
It ain’t lossless if you’re using AirPlay 2.
I was just going to ask if it worked with the Amp. Cool!
Or just ditch Apple Music. Qobuz even has a free tool that grabs your playlists from other streaming services. Not sure if it works with Apple Music though, but if it doesn't I'm sure there is some other tool that will. I'm an iPhone user, but I avoid Apple Music because of Apple's proprietary business practices that cause problems just like you have with WiiM.
Couldn't do it with my Android phone but whipped out my iPad and it worked perfectly! Very cool! Thanks for the heads up!
This is perfect, Thanks for that info.
Just performed room correction with my WiiM Pro. Amazing! Thanks again for the heads up😃
Randy, I saw this on the Livestream yesterday and tried it on the Pro....it made a great difference in my room...I have a Mini in the bedroom system and will move the Pro there and order an Ultra for the main listening area....Great company Wiim thanks for getting out the word so quickly
Make sure the correct curve is used. Harman and B&K are for headphones, not loudspeakers. Not sure why these have been included for speaker correction. Try Flat first.
I made it on my IPad and it works fine. Most of my Roomproblems are gone with it. And rhe Rest i can do manually on my Amp. Works great!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing.
Is the ipad using wifi or bluetooth with the app. ?
Thanks
@@deadline7610 i think its wifi but not shure. But i think that dosent matter. You have to connect the App with the Device and than you can run thru the Setup
Wiim is helping to set the high bar for affordable audio equipment. I’ve used Sonos TruePlay with my Sonos systems. You have to walk around with your iPhone and it listens and adjusts the settings. I have a Wiim with my old 2 channel amp setup thats running a pair of indoor speakers and a 3 speaker rock speaker system in the yard. I just used the room correction inside with my Pro Plus. Very cool. Rock on!
😅
WiiM is such a great company!
Now I'm starting to wonder what's in it for WiiM. We would all love to believe that they just want to disrupt the industry, innovate, and make more in volume. Perhaps that is the case. But in this day and age we should always be asking companies if they are just giving us chicken feed so that they can sell our eggs of private and personal information to other companies.
@@ericksonjustinAK They are a software company at heart, as they also license their software to other manufacturers.
Agree, Wiim does continue to raise the bar through their amazing software updates. Been using this room correction on the Wiim Pro Plus for about a month. Fixed a major room bass boom issue around 60-70 hz. In experimenting with the correction, I found it worked best for me to use the correction as a base setting and then tweak it to preference (I typically boost the treble end quite a bit). Also, I suspect one should REMOVE their phone case before using the correction. The phone case might affect off angle high frequencies possibly? Nice Leica Q! you casually flash btw.
tried it out. made my set up sound worse to my ears. time to start tinkering to see if i can make it better. still an awesome free update.
@@randomsuper same, made my speakers sound fizzy and thin.
same here
Hey Randy, I always enjoy your content. I'm confused why you did not give the Gentleman the credit for telling you about the room correction on the Willm Pro? On yesterday's live stream? Because if I noticed it Surely other people will too. Plus It's just the right thing to do!
@@GrayWolfe-34 hear hear.
Agreed. He didn’t find it himself. An audience member did and it would have been a) more authentic and b) a nod to why it’s good to be a community member.
Slimy move.
@@CrashTestingAudio lemme get this straight: you want him to credit some rando for pointing him to publicly available information? and if he doesn't, it's "slimy"? what is "slimy" about it?
@@ConsecDesign yes. Easy enough. I was there for the live session. He made a big deal about thanking this guy for pointing out that this was available. He was shocked and really excited. Instead of giving a viewer credit and plugging the value of this community, he fabricated a completely different moment. If you lie about the little things when you don’t need to, you lie about the big things. That’s how morals and ethics work.
While I agree that sounds nice, none of us has a clue how another person’s mind works or the thought process one goes thru.
If you’ve followed Randy for a while, you might allow for the fact that he had just finished thanking someone profusely on the livestream and had placed a check in that box, followed by his desire to quickly get information out.
Please Grace others with an allowance for the imperfections of humanity.
I wish I would have waited for this before I purchased the Bluesound Node. I needed that HDMI and WiiM did not offer that at the time. I already have a WiiM Pro Plus and love it.
I'm confused, the Bluesound Node 2i doesn't have an HDMI port. Do you think the Wiim sounds better than your Node 2i? thanks
Node N130 does have HDMI inputs @@Marzen216
@johnbrender7635 Your BluOS has an EQ for low and high frequencies.
NodeN130 has HDMI input.
I recently swapped out a 20+ year old Denon amp driving my Cambridge audio speakers on the deck at my lake cabin with a WiiM amp. I was a little disappointed with the sound stage! I wondered what the room settings would do with an outdoor environment. Wow it opened up the sound stage in an unbelievable way. Never heard music this “alive” outside before! Amazing!!!
Absolutely love it. Free stuff is cool but this is extra cool free stuff.
Just so folks understand why this isn't on Android is due to the very wide variance in microphones across hundreds of different lines. Apple has a very specific set of microphones in their models which all have very specific and predictable responses and measurements.
Excellent video, thanks Randy.
Thanks for the explanation!
Holy _________, this was so easy to use and transformed my higher end sound system. Toned down the infamous B&W tweeter and it found my missing low bass. Not perfect but huge improvement. Thanks for alerting us to this free amazement.
And you can still go in there and tweak it. Just save the original setting and you are good.
On Android VS iPhone, on the WiiM Amp road map for upcoming features there's a note about Android support for room correction coming to the WiiM Amp soon.
Maybe Android room correction support will eventually come to the WiiM Pro/Pro+ models too.
That would be awesome 👌
The Wiim room correction isn’t a real hifi solution at this moment. Tested it and I prefer the sound without rc. Not because my listening room is perfect, but the Wiim rc changes the voices to unnatural voice characteristics. It’s very complicated to correct your room acoustics, so it can’t be done very well in this way too simple manner. Update: Wiim is constantly upgrading the room correction function. I must say the latest version is a big improvement. Not that I think it’s better than without rc, but it’s getting certainly better with every update. A good external microphone should help also I guess.
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WiiM makes great stuff for really cheap, and their updates and help (if needed) is quite unique. Great job WiiM.
Indeed. They deserve some respect for this. Others can be 'elite; or difficult to understand what works well together. WiiM makes this possible. I love it.
I couldn't agree more; A company that doesn't just take your money and then forget about you, one that also appears to listen to customers when developing new products. I also strongly suspect that there won't be the built in redundancy you see with certain companies when new products come out and suddenly earlier ones are no longer supported. I'll definitely be picking up an ultra for my Living room and then my mini, external DAC and amp ect and all those cables can move to a different room where W.A.F (Wife approval factor) is much less of an issue.
I had no idea this feature was coming. What an incredible surprise! It legitimately works on the Wiim Amp and I prefer the EQ profile it generates. I wish it was available on the Wiim Mini, but I can understand why it's not. Guess I'll have to upgrade to the Wiim Pro at some point...
If I understand correctly, this is an EQ room correction which is fine but not at par with Dirac Live or (even better) Lyngdorf tdai-1120 that correct also phase/timing and (for the latter) subwoofer integration. Kind of REW integration. Which again is great for the cost.
Just want to clarify something. Do you need to use the dac in the wiim pro or does it process the sound and pass that out to another dac if you have one?
You can use it either was depending on if you use digital outs
Or analog ( analog would use the sabre dac in the ultra)
It sends the digital unprocessed signal through coax and optical. I don't use it's internal dac because it's bad.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 Thanks Thats what I hoped for. I'll try it out.
@@Audiodreamer192-24 Thanks Thats what I hoped for. I'll try it out.
@@paulcookson5091 no worries 🍻
It wouldn’t hurt to let people know why it only works on the iPhone. It’s because the iPhone has a consistent mic in the phone. Androids mic’s are all over the place. Iwoofer is a similar DSP. All though it’s focused on the bass. It to only works with the iPhone. If the fact that iPhone is holding one back. Your options are miniDSP with an external mic. Be ready to pay about $1000 for this option.
or borrow a friend's iPad
@@Prezbylewskithat's an easy solution. Only need to use a friend's iPad one time.
He said it at about 13:20
I have a fair amount of room treatment already so wasn’t expecting a huge difference. I tried the room correction and honestly it sounds like mush compared to a moderate w shape eq I use. Easy to do though. I’ll try it again with different curve and fiddle with it, perhaps it needs to be flat.
I’ve done room correction using Room Curve app and importing the generated wav files to Roon’s convolution filters feature and makes an incredible improvement. This sounds great on a hardware device to apply to other sources than my Roon streaming
I would guess that when using your cell phone for this correction you need to hold it upside down so that the mike will face the speakers.
I too would think to direct it similar to a special mic towards the sound.
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Room Correction now works on Android devices with latest software update. Did a few tests, super easy to use and it does sound better to my ears, very nice option.
NOTE: I did no knew what "Target Curve" (in the room correction settings) was, I asked Wiim support and here is their answer :
B&K Curve: Provides neutral, accurate sound reproduction, ideal for professional monitoring.
Harman Curve: Provides a more pleasing and natural listening experience, ideal for home entertainment.
Flat Curve: Theoretically the most accurate response, but may require adjustments for better practical listening.
A lot of software that uses the phone's microphone to do measurements only work on an iPhone. The reason is all iPhones are made by apple and there is guaranteed consistency using the mic. Android phones are made by many different manufactures and all the mics are different, so it's not possible to keep up with all the possible combinations of microphones and processing on every different Android phone.
True but they could use a well-regarded USB mic that Android users could connect to their phones.
Or they could run a calibration on the internal mic of each Android phone first. That seems like a simple solution to be able to extend it to any device.
Wiim has made companies with similar devices irrelevant, especially Cambridge and Bluesound, unless you have a very high-end system. I have tested the room correction and compared it to Anthem's Room Correction software. What I like about the Wiim is that I can manually tweak the under/over corrections it applies. The difference between ARC and Wiim RC is that ARC is not just limited to 10 points of adjustment. Wiim RC is much closer in design and function to Yamaha's YAPO. When you consider this was a free upgrade, that's amazing.
Upfront apologize if I am mistaken, but credit is due where credit is due.
Did not someone in the chat point that out to you in yesterday’s live ?
Assuming I remember this correctly, shout out to chat person for that.
If not, again I apologize.
absolutely. I should have been more clear about that
Randy, You have made me a Wiim believer and a Geshelli believer. Now this update makes them sound even more incredible. And for FREE! Thank you for this info. Keep on rockin.
A few tips before everyone gets too excited.
1) only room correct the bass. iPhone mics can’t accurately measure mids and trebles.
2) if you have a wiim mini, download house curve and manually EQ out any bass frequency spikes it picks up in the wiim app.
I dint really check if anyone have referred the last beta version of the wiim app for Android. But I actually installed it and the RC feature seems to work. Although I'm still in the process of validating the calculated filters in order to check how far they are from the ones calculated in Room Eq Wizard.
By now it seems that it boosted the low frequencies a little bit to much. But it might be related with my phone mic.
A general question about the Wiim Pro. When used as a pure streamer and passing the signal to an external dac: is the Pro capable of streaming 768 kHz/32 Bit to the external dac? Or to ask the question differently - is the dac in the Pro the bottleneck in comparison to the Wiim Pro Plus or brings the streaming unit in the Pro restrictions in respect to bit rate?
Available for WiiM Amp as well... Coming to Android within weeks also.... Plus, I'd love to see a review of JBL 104 with a WiiM Mini. Brilliant small room extension. Lost a set of these to an ex girlfriend. Superb sound (no bass extension but everything else is sooooo good for the money)
I have just brought the wiim pro, I didn't think that the room correction would be as good as it is, like holy shht good.
I have got it running through a Sabaj D5 dac into and Onkyo TX-8150 with a yamaha sub but with a part of 683 Bowers and willkins floor stand speakers. Prior to getting the wiim I thought that it was either I was just didn't have the "that" kind of ear, but I guess I was wrong.
Night and day differences by a long way. Thanks Randy you are the man 🎉
It would be cool if the WIIM could also use a PEQ correction curve generated with a calibrated external mic plus REW on a laptop, in addition to the one generated byt the app.
Hi there! This can be already done. Perform your measurements with REW and your microphone of choice. When applying EQ in REW, select "Configurable PEQ" in the "Equaliser selection" and set it up to match the characteristics of the WiiM PEQ (in terms of number of channels, gain range and so on). Let REW do the magic and manually enter the values in the PEQ section of the WiiM. Cheers!
@@emilioyanguez8106 Sweet! Thanks for this Emilio! This could get even better results with a calibrated mic (that at least one hifi wonk friend has and can lend out)
I'm over in the UK and I've just purchased the Wiim Amp today being delivered tomorrow 😀
It arrived today
Friday 2nd August and it has given my Q Acoustics 3050 a wake up call, as they sound more alive now
My Wiim Ultra shipped last night and Amazon says it'll be here tomorrow!
Customer service, customer service, customer service I know a few companies who could learn a thing or two about that. 🎼🔊🎼🔊🎼💯🤘🏼
Thanks for the heads up on the new feature. Does the room EQ only work if you use the WiiM’s DAC/analog out? Ultimately, my question is whether the EQ is applied to its digital outs as well?
Yeah. I was running it digital out when I ran the test
Randy, thanks for checking on the Wiim Mini so I didn't drive myself crazy trying it myself! LOL
Any time!
I plugged my UMIK-1 microphone into my iPhone, and it worked with the room correction software. Much different curve than the iPhone mic. There is no way I've found to apply the UMIK-1 calibration file, but it's still better than the iPhone mic.
Submit a feature request for them to import the calibration file
Thank you for the video. Looks easy. Cool. Does WIIM have vTuner as well? Thousands of free stations would be awesome.
The next step should be to release their own microphones with the amps. Place at ear where you sit and measure away
Can you run the room correction while using an external dac? If not, do you run it direct, do room correction, then hook up the external dac? Also, can you use the EQ with an external dac? Thanks!
Get an I pad instead of phone. Larger display makes the functions easier to use and you can place the ultra across the room and watch the display in the I-pad. You can spend less on an iPad cheaper than the ultra price.
Cheap Godzilla Man from East Tennessee,
Don't mean to be a nitpicker, just giving advice from my own experience.
When running the Wiim Auto room correction turn the bottom of the phone towards the speakers. In the demo you had it pointing at the palm of your hand. If you look closely at the picture in the Wiim app it shows the phone microphone properly turned towards the speakers.
Try it, You'll Like it!!!
For sure. I was just trying to get this thing to show up on camera as I was doing the process
Question out of nowhere! I need your help! I'm in an office situation where the music is amplified through the building and I need a standalone streamer that'll run Spotify all by itself (not connect). Does this exist??? or should I just run an ipad into a preamp? Thank you thank you thank you. not a patreon, but a long time watcher and liker!
I need to you Wiim has also launched the beta version of room correction (RC) in Pro Plus which I owns. I tried it. Many times. The tool feels high tech but the end result is highly contingent on the listening space. The tool can overly correct SPL on some frequency ranges, which could bring some undesired side-effects. You need to correct the acoustic deficiency of the listening space first before using the tool to fine-tune the end result.
Theoretically, this will also compensate any frequency response from the speakers as well, as the SW doesn't know which speaker you're using. If someone gets a speaker for its color of the sound, this would remove it. Would be fun to try 2 different setups, compensating both and compare how close the final sounds gets.
I’m running the OG Wiim Pro ..feeding optically my Denafrips Ares DAC …and I’m good 👍
Couldn’t find it at first, then realized needed to update the app not the WiiM - love the result! Thanks for the info!
Cool thanks as always Randy! I’ve got the WiiM amp and an iPhone 14 so I tried this a few days ago when it was released and it makes it sound like there’s a blanket (or 2) over my speakers. I tried it several times with each curve and it gets a significantly different looking measurement every time and always sounds bad, I have def tech bipolar towers so maybe that’s the issue? Still cool that this exists and I assume they’ll be updating this feature like they do with everything else so I’ll give it another shot on the next update and try some basic bookshelves too, thanks again!
It did the exact oppoiste for me and lifted the blankets on my bookshelf speakers, so it could be your bipolars
Thanks for updating us on this function. I’m about to try it out!
Hey man, awesome video as always! I just tried that on my Wii amp and it worked perfectly!
Mine, the room correction, popped up a few weeks ago on my WiiM Pro, and it worked!
I thought when Wiim added the 10 band parametric EQ that it was a fantastic free upgrade. I used REW and attempted to manually add the filter characteristics into the Wiim, with mixed results. At the time, REW didn't have the Wiim listed as a DSP choice. I won't run out and buy an iPhone or iPad, but I'll bet it won't be long before they release an Android app to use some of the popular calibrated external mics. Should be interesting to see how that compares to my current, albeit convoluted, method.
Huge fan of Randy. Confession: I fond myself chanting Hong Kong Phooey to this music. Now I haven't listened to that theme in quite some time, but this diddy reminds me of how I remember it
Can you save and easily recall EQ presets? I'd love to have a flat EQ curve when I am alone and want the best sound, and then an alternate EQ setting with all of the mids hacked out so it's easier to talk when background music is playing.
Nice video as always!!!! But you have not review the Unico primo as I can remember. So which is your opinion about this amp?
It’s coming. Spoiler. It’s awesome
@@cheapaudioman Perfect, and can't wait! I heard this amp at CAF 2023 and I'm coveting it for my next upgrade.
I have the WiiM amp running a pair of klipsch rp600m’s. I thought they sounded great in my room then I watched this video. I checked and saw that a recent update included room correction using my iPhone as a mic. I didn’t really think using Wiim’s RC would make much of a difference. I was very wrong. Music is so noticeably better and different. I thought I had my EQ settings dialed in for my tastes. Wiim’s RC showed me that music can sound so much better than I thought.
Thank you for great content and recommendations. I just purchased a WiiM Pro Plus to replace my older 10 year old Arcam rBlink Bluetooth Receiver/Emotiva DAC combination running into a Jolida FX10 Tube Amp. The sound from running the WiiM Pro Plus directly through the Amp is much improved. ??? Would running the WiiM through the Emotiva DAC improve the sound even more. Love to hear your thoughts?
Hi Randy, so did the room correction improve the sound? I'm skeptical because I did my own experiments using an online tone generator & my RadioShack sound level meter. With a slow frequency ramping tone the sound levels were all over the place (>+/-6dB). Levels changed greatly with meter location. I tried one speaker at a time then both speakers, same result. What does the room correction SW do that's different from my experiment?
I was going to buy a miniDSP and gave up at least for now. This is amazing.... for free if you already have a Wiim product! I already loved my setup, it sounds even better now!
My Wiim Pro just got room correction on Android. Calibration worked fine.
Arturia is doing it to their Microfreak Synth, it gets a lot of new stuff with every Update
Just updated the wiim app and ran room correction. Got crazy plus minus 5 db or more adjustments across the band. Don’t know if these corrections and due to the room or speakers or both. The wiim says the response is emphasized in the mid and high band with a dip around 2k. My room is a highly reflective small office with a lot of stuff in it. Now I wonder if i need an EQ. This exercise added more information but did add to my confusion greatly
Did you see Shiits “summer stack” deal a Modius, a Midgard, and a pair of Dan Clark Aeon RT closed backs and all the connects. A decent balanced plug and play headphone rig for $749.
When taking the sound measurement with the test signal, does it also take into consideration my listening position? I have to ask because my Stereolith Loudspeaker is quite unique in how it produces a three dimensional and holographic imaging, and it doesn’t matter where you are in the room, or even another room! To an extent. So I’m hoping this room correction is for the accoustic only. And not for my listening position..
Forgot to mention that is in fact just one loudspeaker, not two.
Note: WiiM Amp as well.
Although it doesn't seem to offer the different curves (flat, Harmon, B&K). Or I'm too dumb to find it :)
Yeah the curves can be found for Wiim Amp. Settings, top right of first correction screen.
@@andystobbs597 Ta! As suspected I was just being dumb :)
Noob question - does the room correction only work if you’re using the built in DAC on the WiiM or will it also work if you have an external DAC connected?
When I set this up with a subwoofer, connected via the LFE out on the wiim amp and into the line input on the sub, will that ignore the crossover knob position on the sub so that the crossover setting on the amp is used? Or do I set the knob on my sub to be at the highest frequency, but then set my preferred frequency via the wiim amp phone app?
This update is great. It opened up the midrange in my old Klipsch.
Just tried. Worked great in my small Klipsch bookshelf single subwoofer small system in living room! However in my larger Klipsch Reference dual 15 subwoofer set up in my theater room it wasn’t great. It killed all the bass response? I think it’s due to the dual subwoofers messing with it. That room was already dialed in and sounding awesome so no big deal. But in the open living room single sub definitely sounds great.
I'm just so very glad that I anteed up to the Viim Pro instead of the Mini about a year ago. Wiim rocks! 💯
I also own Fuji camera. Fuji offer firmware updates that open up new features on older cameras... so far the only camera brand that does that... a philosophy they call Kaizen (loosely translates to improve or make better).
Very cool of them to release this update for free. However, this really needs to support an external mic like a UMIK. I would be weary of trusting a phone mic. Also, it would have been useful to include measurements to show the before and after of what it's doing.
It doesn’t support a umik. And I don’t do measurements. I’d suggest if you have a Wiim pro or pro plus to try it on. And then try it off.
Saw the chart with the before and after measurements. The before was what I was used to (not good). The after was (and is) outstanding. YMMV
I’m assuming this only works if you’re running through the Wiim pro or pro plus. So playing cds or records, no joy. Will this work with the new wiim ultra if I run all of my sources through it?
Cheap but extremely cheerful...many thanks for keeping us updated re all of the Wiim content. A fabulous channel, sir!
I run both A+B speakers on my Denon stereo receiver. Should I leave all four speakers, I have a sub too, playing for the room correction software to "correct"? Never thought I'd see affordable room correction software in my system.
Hi Randy, good video as always!!
Have you reviewed any Fyne audio speakers before? They are new kid in town. Hoping to get reviews from your channel.
More power!
Its amazing how technology advanced in last two three years. These features were reserved for $500+ devices not so long ago.
My system is based on an Anthem MRX 1120 which corrects my system with ARC Genesis. How would using the WIIM room correction be an improvement?
*Important:*
A clogged and dirty iPhone microphone will drastically impact your calibration results.
Clean your microphone ports with a dry toothbrush and remove your case during calibration for the best results.
What? Room correction? I have to start reading WiiM’s description on their firmware updates . Thanks Randy!
I ordered a WiiM Ultra today from Amazon one week delivery.