It's not about how parochial South Australians are Sheehan. It shows how ignorant Victorians were of the quality of football played outside their borders. We had our own great comp in SA and WA had theirs as well the vfl was of secondary interest to us we had our own great product
Spot on. Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
he is spot on. i grew up as a kid through very late 70s and til late 80s and no one followed VFL. it was on a highlights hour on saturday night on ABC and that was it. Page about 4 from the back of the newspaper after 3 pages of SANFL and every other sport. they had every game on radio live and mid 80s they had games on TV. I recall that channel 7 had the reserves games on live from football park, often commentated by Bruce MacAvaney. But the main game wasnt televised. An indicator of how good the comp was is that the stars in the SANFL were also stars in the VFL/AFL.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
@@Popped-Pepper I'll reply later. But I remember in state games seeing Rick Davies, Carey in the big man dept. WA was actually pretty strong in the ruck in that era. Then Aish and Cornes were great athletes. We didn't have as many of those types of guys in that era. You know the Blight type, tall ruck rovers that could run and take marks. In WA in the 70s and 80s the midfield of teams were usually all under 5 foot 10. Same with wingman largely. East Perth had Phil Kelly who was a real star and won two Sandovers. He went to Melbourne and played at North on small mud heaps there and largely in the midfield. He is dad to Josh Kelly.
@@Popped-Pepper East Perth vs West Perth had a great rivalry. "Perth Derby". That had the record crowd of 26000 in home and away at Perth oval (now the Rectangular Stadium where soccer/rugby is played). Also Leederville oval (formerly WPFC home) had a 25,000 crowd. I was there for one of the monster crowds. EP ended up leaving Perth oval that didn't make us Royal fans very happy. Then we ended up at our arch rivals ground Leederville oval. EF vs SF would get big crowds consistently. They had the "Derby". Fremantle Oval was all terraced and probably the max at the time was 22,000. If you're after a big Derby match look for the one where Noel Carter (former Rich) kicked a goal near end of match. I think that's the one where Stephen Michael karate kicked a player at the centre bounce. A very bitter match. (actually there was another match where EP's Hooper karate kicked the Claremont ruckman in the mouth. Hooper who endedup at Geelong got the free kick!). I'll look at you tube
@@Popped-Pepper czcams.com/video/OhGBZZYVyVA/video.html. I think in that match there was quite a bit of bad blood. A few famous names heard in the commentary.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
And the greatest player to play Australia Football was Barrie Robran. Even Blighty knows this. He was offered heavy monetary inducements to sign for Richmond if he went to the VFL. All he had to do was take the money and there was no compunction he had to go. Just if he did go he was bound to the Tigers if he did. He won 3 Magareys before 26. His career was cut short by an act of bastardry that prevents L Mathews from being a true great of Aussie Rules. What he did to smash Robran's knee was criminal. All becuase the Big V knew Robran was going to lead SA to a famous victory at the SCG. And the arrogant Vics could not countenance that unpalatable option. Leigh Mathews is the prime scum of conceited arrogant Victoria. He led North Adelaide to the AFC crown in 1972 over Jezza's Blues. Asked after the game, about Robran, Jezza said, gist of, that apparently there were 17 other red n white jumpers, he didn't see any of them. The inference being that Robran won the game by himself. His knee injury prevented him from running. He came 3rd in a subsequent Magarey count and all he could do was handball. In SA supporters of ALL SANFL clubs recognize him as the best. This has not occurred with VFL or WAFL supporters. The latter two are usually split between 2, 3 or 4 contenders in their respective leagues.
As a guy from WA I have to admit a certain amount of ignorance of Barrie Robran, didn't see him play, heard a lot of good things though. I guess what gets my goat is that Jack Oatey still doesn't get enough recognition as a coach on the National level. Right up there with the greatest I reckon.
@@hanajinks1044 he slid into him studs first smashing his knee to bits totally unnecessarily in the dying seconds of a state game played in on a boggy SCG in 1974 (i think). i watched it on tv as a kid & that's how i remember it. not seen any footage of it since. an absolute c*@t act by Matthews.
Yes true. But I do think AFL has done well compared to some other sports. They've tried to keep the loyalty and romance through father and son. Players union pushing for easy movement of players and clubs wanting more restrictions on father son. So its unfortunately going to start moving towards less loyalty.
How is Blight parochial to say that no one followed VFL. Firstly people actually wanted to go to games in the 60s 70s 80s and not watch on tv. Secondly, there was no VFL footy apart from a higlights package. And there was WAFL footy on. All the news broadcasts talked about WAFL not VFL. The newspapers might have the VFL scores, but they were alongside the Tassie footy scores and SANFL scores. No article about it. I travelled to SA around 1987 and the Sat paper had front and back full of SANFL footy. In all honesty as WA fan, I couldn't make any sense of it. There wasn't VFL. People weren't interested in it. If its not on TV and not being played in SA then people wouldn't be interested. Nothing to do with parochial.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
Blighty's right. No one gave a stuff about the vfl back in those days.
It's not about how parochial South Australians are Sheehan. It shows how ignorant Victorians were of the quality of football played outside their borders. We had our own great comp in SA and WA had theirs as well the vfl was of secondary interest to us we had our own great product
spot on, dickhead victorians think its all about them
Spot on. Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
Jacko's instincts about Sheehan are correct
he is spot on. i grew up as a kid through very late 70s and til late 80s and no one followed VFL. it was on a highlights hour on saturday night on ABC and that was it. Page about 4 from the back of the newspaper after 3 pages of SANFL and every other sport.
they had every game on radio live and mid 80s they had games on TV. I recall that channel 7 had the reserves games on live from football park, often commentated by Bruce MacAvaney. But the main game wasnt televised.
An indicator of how good the comp was is that the stars in the SANFL were also stars in the VFL/AFL.
They had the last half of the reserves game on TV before the league game started. The main game was televised in the 80's at lest, I remember it well.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
Victoria was like another country. We couldn't go to games there, we didn't care. Every kid in my class supported a SANFL team.
I love Sheehans absolute expression of disbelief.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
@@Popped-Pepper I'll reply later. But I remember in state games seeing Rick Davies, Carey in the big man dept. WA was actually pretty strong in the ruck in that era. Then Aish and Cornes were great athletes. We didn't have as many of those types of guys in that era. You know the Blight type, tall ruck rovers that could run and take marks. In WA in the 70s and 80s the midfield of teams were usually all under 5 foot 10. Same with wingman largely. East Perth had Phil Kelly who was a real star and won two Sandovers. He went to Melbourne and played at North on small mud heaps there and largely in the midfield. He is dad to Josh Kelly.
Fire off any questions about WAFL in 70s 80s and I can reply. Even 90s... I know of history so can go back into early 70s and 60s if need be.
@@Popped-Pepper East Perth vs West Perth had a great rivalry. "Perth Derby". That had the record crowd of 26000 in home and away at Perth oval (now the Rectangular Stadium where soccer/rugby is played). Also Leederville oval (formerly WPFC home) had a 25,000 crowd. I was there for one of the monster crowds. EP ended up leaving Perth oval that didn't make us Royal fans very happy. Then we ended up at our arch rivals ground Leederville oval. EF vs SF would get big crowds consistently. They had the "Derby". Fremantle Oval was all terraced and probably the max at the time was 22,000. If you're after a big Derby match look for the one where Noel Carter (former Rich) kicked a goal near end of match. I think that's the one where Stephen Michael karate kicked a player at the centre bounce. A very bitter match. (actually there was another match where EP's Hooper karate kicked the Claremont ruckman in the mouth. Hooper who endedup at Geelong got the free kick!). I'll look at you tube
@@Popped-Pepper czcams.com/video/OhGBZZYVyVA/video.html. I think in that match there was quite a bit of bad blood. A few famous names heard in the commentary.
@1:22 "Really" - beautiful illustration of arrogance meeting ignorance.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.
And the greatest player to play Australia Football was Barrie Robran. Even Blighty knows this.
He was offered heavy monetary inducements to sign for Richmond if he went to the VFL. All he had to do was take the money and there was no compunction he had to go. Just if he did go he was bound to the Tigers if he did.
He won 3 Magareys before 26. His career was cut short by an act of bastardry that prevents L Mathews from being a true great of Aussie Rules. What he did to smash Robran's knee was criminal. All becuase the Big V knew Robran was going to lead SA to a famous victory at the SCG. And the arrogant Vics could not countenance that unpalatable option. Leigh Mathews is the prime scum of conceited arrogant Victoria.
He led North Adelaide to the AFC crown in 1972 over Jezza's Blues. Asked after the game, about Robran, Jezza said, gist of, that apparently there were 17 other red n white jumpers, he didn't see any of them. The inference being that Robran won the game by himself.
His knee injury prevented him from running. He came 3rd in a subsequent Magarey count and all he could do was handball.
In SA supporters of ALL SANFL clubs recognize him as the best. This has not occurred with VFL or WAFL supporters. The latter two are usually split between 2, 3 or 4 contenders in their respective leagues.
As a guy from WA I have to admit a certain amount of ignorance of Barrie Robran, didn't see him play, heard a lot of good things though. I guess what gets my goat is that Jack Oatey still doesn't get enough recognition as a coach on the National level. Right up there with the greatest I reckon.
What did Matthews do to him? Is there a vid or media report of it? I watched Mattwews play and know about the Cable incident, among very many.
@@hanajinks1044 he slid into him studs first smashing his knee to bits totally unnecessarily in the dying seconds of a state game played in on a boggy SCG in 1974 (i think). i watched it on tv as a kid & that's how i remember it. not seen any footage of it since. an absolute c*@t act by Matthews.
@@Pablo668 mr modern handball...jack oatey
WA used to spank SA quite a bit in those days, don't forget.
Yes, the SANFL was a great comp, until it was ruined by the expanded VFL.
Football isn't the same anymore. Just a boring money hungry industry now. Greed has killed the world.
i still get my jolies watching sanfl
Yes true. But I do think AFL has done well compared to some other sports. They've tried to keep the loyalty and romance through father and son. Players union pushing for easy movement of players and clubs wanting more restrictions on father son. So its unfortunately going to start moving towards less loyalty.
How is Blight parochial to say that no one followed VFL. Firstly people actually wanted to go to games in the 60s 70s 80s and not watch on tv. Secondly, there was no VFL footy apart from a higlights package. And there was WAFL footy on. All the news broadcasts talked about WAFL not VFL. The newspapers might have the VFL scores, but they were alongside the Tassie footy scores and SANFL scores. No article about it.
I travelled to SA around 1987 and the Sat paper had front and back full of SANFL footy. In all honesty as WA fan, I couldn't make any sense of it. There wasn't VFL. People weren't interested in it. If its not on TV and not being played in SA then people wouldn't be interested. Nothing to do with parochial.
Arrogant and ignorant of Sheehan. In Perth in the 70s and 80s people generally had a team in the VFL, but they couldn't name all the players and would only usually see them on TV twice a month and that was on a highlights show The Winners. The biggest novelty really was the mud, small fields and the slower style of play. Like seeing a different form of game. In Perth there were no cricket pitches, Perth is based on a sandy plain so not clay/mud. Large fields and an open style of play. Completely different. In the playgrounds (70s/80s) and workplaces (pre Eagles) the discussion would be about the WAFL matches. Never VFL. Though there was a fascination with the mud. Things started changing from 1985 as more WA players were getting recruited and Seven was broadcasting matches delayed or live on a Sunday afternoon. You started seeing Capper and co in Sydney.