The TRUE BEST Magics in Arcane Odyssey!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Most up to date and accurate tierlist, based on every magic's exact stats and ease of playstyle. Which one will YOU use?
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Please take note that some magics cannot interact in water-terrain battles, making them almost unusable in some circumstances. For example, sand and snow are the same thing, except that sand is more versatile since water does not limitate it's attacks.
I like do ice form in water
@@Arcionix231 That's probably a handy way to cross the sea if a ship is missing for some reason.
exactly i cant kill sharks or white eyes bc of this
@@WhatIsThatThingDoing yea it's long
yeah, as a fire user I always keep a gun on hand in case my COWARDLY enemy attempts to use the water to protect themself from annihilation
Snow is definetly in a tier since you can press shift to remove most status effects off of you and freezes with wind. Charging snow for 0.1s removes corroding, melting, burning, scorched, charred, etc off of you.
Snow users rise up!!?
@@Rage_Quiting yeah snow mage and second magic ice is really good bcuz of freezing gives a 20% damage buff to snow and freezes them so i have a nasty ''ranged'' combo that deals around 600 and could do more with better gear
This tierlist is the best I’ve ever seen why can’t more people be like you?
The second part sounded a bit insulting,cause people just make tier lists of they’re personal experience and you can’t expect to have everyone to have the same exact opinion but it should be similar and also updates are happening faster than your dad left so yeah
This is the first time I've seen ash in top tier and honestly, I fully agree. I'm also sad that I chose ash and fire instead of ash and magma because I believed the Trello lol.
@@yesnt4718 "updates are happening faster than your dad left so yeah" overused as shit and unfunny as hell, please never say that again infact just stop typing or talking altogether
its actually impressive how balanced the game is when its still in 'early game'
they have been balancing magic since world of magic
since arcane adventures, but now with a wider variety
@@thelazynoob_1233 and mutations are now selectable at the start
saying ao is balanced with the current mage meta is crazy
@@garbranola7853 it is balanced between magics
This tierlist is very accurate, besides the fact your the only one not using outdated stats you also include a magic's potential in their rating. Like wind's knockback makes it really good but a lot of people ignore it.
Video aside I read the balance doc and its simply incredible I hope it all gets added.
Also you forgot to link the spreadsheet in the description.
why are y'all using "your"?
@@manofallmenweeee-ooo weeee-ooo here comes the Grammar Police!
@@joshuaneate358 f r
wind knockback is good because if they are sent to the dark sea from 1 attack they arent a problem anymore and you still get rewarded
I like the variety in AO, in WOM there wasn't nearly as much of it. I do sort of want them to add the old island as a storyline extension though. I remember you had to fight a minotaur and some other cool things.
The WOM story was sadly removed but I assume the reason the map is not it the game is one, it was pretty blocky and less realistic. And two it was FREAKING HUGE! if that was an island everyone would just live on it. Forget every other island everyone would be heading straight there lol
@omnireader yes he was so fun. To die to every 3 seconds. lol
i remember one time i accidentally aggroed the minotaur north by the savannah, and he tracked me down to that bell village in the middle of the map...he proceeded to RAZE the ENTIRE TOWN down to the ground.
he killed at least 5 of those magic guard NPCs they had for the good faction back then, if not more. i hid in the wreckage of a building he'd already targeted and the only reason i didn't get killed after i got trapped in the wreckage was because he was in a 3v1 with the magic guard NPCs.
they fought for at least 15 minutes straight before they killed him and arrested him.
breaking a single window would have the magic council called on you
imagine that being in ao everyone would be in jail
Poison and plasma goes so well with each other it’s crazy
The Bachelors Degree in Arcane Odysseyology when?
I am always watching you jones.
I'm a Light and Magma style user. I synergy the two by using my light spell to blind players and then using magma explosion and magma blast to cover wide area with flames and magma. The enemy can't see what's happening, and will tend to panic.
I’ve always played with plasma nova in wom and now in arcane odyssey, thanks for the info on it! I had no idea it had a buff, it feels the exact same lol
Its all about the drip if it looks cool, and goes well with ur drip, its the best magic
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thats why magma is the best, you got a beautiful magic, a cool dot, funny puddles, and can make domain expansion if you run intensity + poison secondary magic with 2 strong dots and a really dark fog where u cant see shit
I really like how you've organised this towards solo builds. As a lightning user, I can agree that using it solo is very difficult compared to other magics like Magma and Ash.
The second magic though opens the door to many other interactions. Since going water as my second, I have been having a BLAST with my Lightning Mage.
Now, I can control space with lightning puddles AND apply paralyse more efficiently, it's great!
I'm sure other magics have their unique combos too, so the people who use low tier magics on this list can still have a lot of fun and feel powerful!
fr, lightning getting a buff too
@@Maplestorm Earth, magma and metal need nerfs so badly, the amount of damage and AOE they have is so broken its not even funny, I have had players not in my party come in and ruin boss farming and its so annoying, since magma leaves puddles around and since you have both the player and the boss to worry about, your basically dead, along with the entire group.
People need to stop interuppting boss farming, its a cowardly way to hunt someone, since the boss does most of the work.
I honestly love Wood magic. The only downside I've found is it's below average speed, but other than that, it has all synergies and good size/damage. (And I love Trees, so that works too!)
Although, the main downside is the Wood Conjurer's visuals. They could definitely be better. But hey, it's funny turning my iron staff into a branch, putting twigs onto my fingers, and turning my Greataxe into a Wooden Sign. So is it really a downside?
I have wood and fire magic and fire buffs it by 15% pair that with mode and I can do like 300 per blast with 1551 hp
@@airboit4655 you like burn forest rigth?
i was pretty pissed off when i first saw the wood visual on weapon but now that you mention it, it does look pretty funny turning my greataxe into a wooden sign but i still hate the katana and rapier visual on it
My fists turn into wooden cubes with my thermo fist warlock now, and it's pretty whacky to see. All that hot burning air around all that wood, and you best believe I'm going to end up fighting Smokey.
Im a wood magic lover too!!! Im a wood warlock and it feels so amazing, def gotta try out a wood conjurer
Don't see why a list was needed. Water is obviously the best magic.
I want to use water and ice. (Also for later dark)
Fr it’s underrated
Its ok. I like it but its not the best
Water is love, water is life.
@@Cream_2111 no its not a lot of people are aware of the ice water and water lightning combos
I like wind and I actually have a wind mage file that I made specifically to launch people as far as I could.
But what wind needs is to be able to knockback people even when they are using a skill cuz right now most skills anchor when used and negate most of the knockback if you are able to react to it. It would be so cool to throw people off their crash or rushdown trajectories and it would become a very useful magic.
Running a strong enchanted Carina set on a crystal metal mage is terrifying, can confirm people do not like getting hit for 600 damage
I did metal first hopefully I still can be meta
545 dmg raw lol
This makes sense, about the positive damage bonus cap. (My) Wood warlock with thermo fist is topping at 117 damage per m1, which would be higher if it was the 30% still. Just might mention that (my) armour stats aren't perfect yet, it might still do better in time.
😮 wood 🪵
@maplestorm I subscribed, it's a sign of respect for reading the trello
goated music choice & tierlist ngl
Sometimes even low tier magics come in handy especially if you go for 2 magic awakenings as things like wood or glass with plasma is really effective
If the update was added. So i would like to have two potions added in that update. So stat reset of course. I mean. A lot of us put vitality stat as an accident and we dont have the free reset anymore. So yeah..second one is the most complicated which is the magic change potion. I mean. After seeing all those review and insights about the magic. A lot of us are like dissatisfied and disappointed about the magic we picked.
Wood is an easy S tier. Being capable of dealing high damage and applying bleed while being faster than earth/metal and synergisyzing better with heat magics makes it an easy placement on S
I also think that thunder is A instead of B. And I say this because I think you downplayed speed to much. Put a damage increase shape on the attack + it’s natural high speed and you can crank up some blitz strikes.
It is also important to focus on how good thunder + water is, since you can easily apply paralyzed which is one of the best status in game when paired with a fast magic like thunder
wood does not have too high damage tbh
@@kauan5581 i thought its the highest dmg multiplier currently, the stats
@@mnam5822 nope its like 0.95 right now
The slower magics really got a glowup in AO
So assuming you have an endgame build with Conjurer, and are competent enough to hit accurately in pvp, what would you consider the best magic? Also, curious if Light will become a strong rapid hit magic for insane DOT stacking if the patch notes go through.
probably some heavy magic like crystal or earth, theyre slow but deal high damage
yea if the changes are done then light will be pretty good for a more aggressive playstyle
I use venom, you agree its any good?
based touhou bgm
oh yea and i guess the tierlists pretty good and accurate too
fr
Oh, you used my crystal conjurer screenshot for the video thumbnail!
saying poison is a worse ash is literally a sin the only thing they have in common are the gas clouds. Poison is 10 times better because it stops regeneration for 20 seconds while ash can only apply the petrified effect which is a 0,25 second stun. Its honestly pretty useless in pvp since everyone will be healing (maybe even with recovery food) while dashing around.
Saw you in discord. Good tier list.
Less of a downside of shadow more like a lacking upside is that it has the most useless status effect in the game.
fr us shadow users need a buff man
@@ivonunes3937 ye fr man
only good thing about shadow effect is when u got a war, except when u are dealing with warlock with massive aoe tho
I thougt lighting was meant to be a kinda high damage dealer
This is basically just mage only builds, when you consider some of these magics with other hybrids (like magma conjurer) i'd adjust their tiers because magma is either bugged or just absolutely trash when embued (you don't get bleed synergies and the self synergy doesn't work)
yea its bugged, and i did say its mainly for solo magics
Lightning needs a dot buff, status effect change, and attack size buff.
lightning aint getting dot
@@gaming.golden it's fair that metal that has huge aoe gets dmg buff after doing 5% of someone's health but lightning needs to do 33% to give you a 1 second stun and no extra dmg, dot or some kind of different status effect
great vid, just wish the music was lower so i didn't have to actively focus to be able to listen
The real best magic isin't metal or poison or whatever but it's every magic..( except 2-3 MAGICS, anyway)
Lightning isn't bad u cannot change my mind "it's light but worse" i don't care if i see it's fun I'm taking it but magma is okay slow but okay damage acid quite simmilar WHATEVER
The real best magic does not really exist cus it depends on skill
If it is braindead then okay but if it's hard to use fine u choose whatever magic you want and the friends you make along the way.
- an lightning main (judge me idc it's funny it's cool it's epic it just makes me zeus)
And this is truly a Arcane Odyssey
-a wide fish in a tank
I know this comment may seem biased, especially since I main Ice Magic, but you should also consider some things outside of PvP. An example of Ice Magic would be for the whole sea, as Ice Magic can spawn platforms on the water, which is really helpful if you fall off of the sky islands. Maybe take notes on magics in and out of PvP and rank again. Just a thought.
theres really no point as magics are soley for fighting. something like ice and magma platforms is just a little gimmick and barely changes anything
the music is as loud as or louder than your voice sometimes, esp during 5:50 segments, otherwise great video I appreciate your input
Because of the music I kept turning my volume up, so when you loud talk into the mic for some reason to emphasize your words, my ears were blown off haha
yea i think i recorded it in different sections so sometimes im further away but i have a better mic now so hopefully it shouldnt be an issue going on
sand is significantly better than shadow, despite sacrificing speed compared to shadow it has many more positive synergies with a high base damage.
Crystal + conjurer is kinda op ngl
just use the magic that you want too/ they all have their pros and cons
THANK YOU FOR GIVING JUSTICE TO THE MAGMA USERS
There is no good or bad builds, the magic you choose depends on your build and skill.😅
Me going Lightning + Light is just chef kiss, the speed of both magics are amazing and sometimes hard to predict especially close range. The damage on both are well balanced though you need good aim due to both having small AOE
Balanced? What?
@@SrJrXVIII lightning and light are legit two of the lower end elements in terms of dmg, not only that but they barely have aoe only thing do have is speed but you need to actually have good and consistent aim to get any dmg off since neither of their status effects do any kind of dmg, unlike metal, ash, earth, crystal, magma, wood etc etc etc
also we need a tierlist for conjurers, mages and warlocks 💀
I went snow conjurer and let's just say that I think it might be C tier at best.
@@soIzec same lol but i wanna get sunken sword then try it out
@@calsion5240 yo I’m a snow conjurer too, if you guys find any tips comment them here cuz I’m really tryna make this build work 😂 I’m getting sunken sword rn.
@@GroutMobile yeah same ill let u know if i find anything and hopefully u can do the same cause snow conjurer seems really cool
@@GroutMobile btw just mainaged to get a sunken sword and its kinda underwhelming it still does like no damage and freeze is good but doesnt even last tht long so im making an ice conjurer
lemme say this to add onto ash, max intensity build, plus ashes ash clouds = almost 1 shot smoke bomb that sticks for a while
From what I learn if the magic can Crash someone its a big W
imagine third magic.. making a composition of earth, water and fire = music approaches
please turn up the music volume i can still hear the rest of the video
I know its gonna be patched later but for now metal can do 2500 damage with the right gear and enchants
ice conjurer with sunken sword destroys ppl sometimes with a rlly good combo
As someone who has been using magma since the game releases and chose it without knowing it was so good, I can confirm that it is like lava
I use Magma and I'm glad you made this the #1 spot in Tierlist lool
He said earth is best in game tho.
@@ravioliravioligivemethefor5794 12:25 Look again, he put it higher than Earth bud
@@thefieryknight4039 everything in the tiers were disorganized, so we don't know which is the best S. Though, Earth was stated to be the best ingame by his opinion so yeah Ravioli is right
I’ve been debating on wether or not to pick a different element or go shadow for context in arcane adventures and world of magic I’ve all ways chosen shadow I did it in arcane adventures I did it in world of magic because i felt attached to it and now I’m struggling half of me wants to use shadow for nostalgia purposes but the other half wanted to use another element and I think I’ll go and take on more nostalgia trip because shadow actully looks pretty cool when imbued with a weapon I’m going to go on my nostalgia trip now
You have multiple save files, so you can run Shadow and still run another.
Also yes Shadow looks awesome imbued. Reminds me of Yami from Black Clover.
U can have 2 elements in one file
@@stealthninja5587Only as Mage
Yall are out here doing tier lists on magic while I'm here using Crystal because it looks nice
fr crystal has amazing visuals especially with shapes
Finally everyone has told me shadow is worst for conjure but you made me do hallu
Im a new player to arcane odyssey and i thought acid was the worst magic untill i saw this video Thanks!
Definitely wouldn’t put shadow and wind above the lower tiers since they’re kinda unreliable, I can elaborate further but it’d probably turn into an essay if I did it in this message so may reply with the reasons why later if I feel like it :b
This is almost to a million views lets help this boy man child thing guy get there!
Lightning and water are best.
You can use lightning if you are fighting in the ocean.
You can use water if they use earth magic and others that are good against lightning.
You can soak enemies in water magic then lightning magic
can you make a tierlist about magic for the conjurer : D
so wait are the combat changes guaranteed? bc if so i prob wouldn’t try to go for synergies w my magic, I was originally gonna go cryatal+earth but i could maybe do wind+earth instead if it becomes less necessary
Theres another patch note saying that some synergies were buffed because the recent nerf made them too weak. For example according to that patch note ice on frozen is supposed to do 10% more damage becasue it doesnt end frozen but my 200 dmg ice blast does 240 on frozen targets
yea i said that later
@@Maplestorm mb then
i had to reselect my magic because paper (from world of magic, if you didnt know.. arcane oddyssey used to be world of magic) got removed..
I'm a snow user and afther this video i think i'm going to cry
14:47 that looks like the mother of Pokemon type charts
Tbh
I had both plasma user and poison user save and poison was so kuch better tho
Its just more op and i can actualy use it underwater unlike plasma
Gotta respect the touhou music in the background
I’m looking to make a really good boss killer using Thermofist warlock, what would be the best magic to use with it? I’m leaning towards magma but that spreadsheet you made shows that fire works best with charred and you get that with explosion magic so I’m really confused, does fire still deal x25% with melting cuz I’ve got no idea what to go for anymore lol
I think you underestimate attack speed pairing with light which reduces the need for aoe basically making it a gun with bigger aoe
idk i agree with almost all of those except for lightning, theres a reason lightning is one of the most overused/overpicked magics in AA/AO, and its because its GOOD, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST SINCE AA AND IT HAS NOT CHANGED A SINGLE BIT.
does he know
I’m just chilling with magma and lightning
I totally agree with light having bad damage, but from what I've heard the blinding is good for PvP, and the aoe is decent, I definitly hope they add the heat stacking and/or increased damage though
Tip for argos, get him behind a wall an use magic with AOE like explosion to easy farm
argos is just easy in general
Me not giving a fuck and going light & lightning to cosplay Jesus: 🗿
Ice with sunken conquror build is peak
Im running Acid & Magma as a Savant. Any thoughts on that? :0 Lvl 125 btw
interesting cause ive never seen a savant before
in the middle of the video I started to wonder, what when did I play my playlist and then it turns out iit's the video
i know i can trust you with touhou music playing in the background
Little did i know that lightning had low damage as i went full mage.
Me baiting my nails to see what my element is at and I see earth at s yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
6:00 wth is that navy ship doing...
Pink drip on the thumbnail magnificent 😂
imagine if you get fire or ash on top of the poison dagger it would deal even more dmg overtime
accurate tierlist id put poison and crystal a bit higher personally
Now this is what u call a tierlist
Wood next question
1:55 Plasma fidget spinner [REAL]
If you are going warlock I recommend going lightning or explosion, the style doesn’t matter too much, I have heard that if you are looking to use magic with weapons you should use fire or water but I’m not quite sure. Just go warlock or full magic using magic any other way is not the best. Plus warlock will only be useful with more fighting style moves.
I’d just run ice with iron leg or sailor fist (or thermo fist if you wanna try out the “steam magic” I guess) since the fighting styles benefit heavily from those 2, sailor fist is obvious on why but ice actually does 40% more damage to bleeding targets while iron leg will constantly be procing bleed
bro lighting is mid. i maxed my 1st slot with lighting and iron leg and it did no damage. guess what happened to that slot
@@-Alex20 u just lying my boy
@@qwerty_9922 nah im not bro i maxed a slot with a warrior build and that did damage.
@@-Alex20 lightning is more of a mage ability then warlock/conjurer since it's passive only has a chance to shine as a mage, ice is just the best for conjurer/warlock
why is the music so damn loud I can’t hear you 😭
Maybe shadow magic should get the ability to drain energy or hp from the enemys and allows you to recharge or heal while fighting idk my opinion on how to improve shadow magic
nah thats gonna be what one of the lost magics do
idk how i feel about plasma i have it leveled up to the explosion ability and i gotta say it blows more than a stripper maybe i just suck lol but i think its like f rank
thats because you only have 2 spells, all magics in the beginning suck bc u can only use a single projectile to do damage
@@Maplestorm ahhh ok how do I get the 2nd magic slot
Magma looks the coolest so its the best (I use it on conjurer with scimitars of storm)
What is the best 2nd magic for magma mage
i chose acid as my first magic because it just is very very VERY balanced
W tierlist
That means crystal magic is bad?😢
Im planning to continue playing arcane odyssey and I wanna know what’s the best second magic for shadow because I can’t decide which one to choose if I get an awakening
accurate spelled as "accutrate" off to a great start
all id like to say is i was a shadow conj long before it was cool
when i have all 3 magics im gonna have magma explosion and plasma beceause i think it will be funny
I didn't even know magma was good. I just picked my same magic from WoM