Cause I cant find the 4 ground type from NGK (or anyone else except Bosch). Checked the web site for an Accord NGK only lists 6 different single ground varieties. The theory presented here is all well and good. But the proof is in the actual performance in the real world. Multi ground is better in my experience. I was suffering from hesitation and poor 1-2 shifting (delayed shifting up and down) for years. I thought my tranny was failing. After I put in the multis the hesitation was gone and shift is smooth. I believe poor engine performance causes poor shifting as the computer has trouble determining correct shift points. This is not the first time I have tried multis. I used them back in the 70s in my Chrysler 300 and the difference was night and day.
Multiple ground electrode spark plugs are pre-gapped from the factory and require no adjustment. Furthermore, there is not an accurate tool or method to check/adjust the gap on multiple ground electrode spark plugs.
I bought double electrode spark plugs that described a 0.044 in gap. But when I measured them, the gaps are 0.025 or 0.023 and different on each side/electrode. What does this mean? Is the gap a total of the sum of each electrodes gap? Or is it suppose to be 0.044 on each side?
I used single and double electrode ngk Spark plugs for my motorcycle, i found nothing new, single electrode sparkplug five more mileage than twin, finally Ngk plugs are reliable and user friendly
I wish these 2 ground electrode plugs were available in non-resistor. The only reason resistor plugs came about was to counteract EMI when cars still used distributors and had long plug wires to carry the HV which acted as antennas. Now that almost every car uses COP technology, the source of EMI (distributor and wires) has been eliminated so there's no reason to run resistor plugs anymore which do nothing but waste spark energy thereby reducing performance and fuel efficiency.
Bought some NGK laser platinum spark plugs for my car last weekend, they were double the price of other plugs, but I'm overly happy with my purchase, engine is running a dream now! No more misfires! Feels really smooth when revving too. Would definitely recommend NGK plugs! 10/10
Just bought/Installed your platinum series 4 prong spark plugs...initials startup was very un settling as it sputtered about for 2-3 seconds after that......... :D VERY NICE AND SMOOTH ENGINE RUNS BEAUTIFUL WITH 250,000 MILES
+Usama Ahmad Definately yes according to my experience in my car and the explanation on this video. Try them and see what effect you'll get from them. Both Multi-ground and Single ground plug have their individual disadvantages but single-ground plugs have better advantages than multi ones.
I have been using E3 spark plugs on my 2000 Toyota Hellica since the 150,000 mark and just passed the 300,000 mile mark with flying colors. Personal opinion they Rock .!!!
This design was used in aircraft engines 70 years ago for reliability & is still used now. The main benefit was if one earth wire gap was fouled with oil then the next path of least resistance would spark ensuring continued cylinder firing. In automotive practice, it's just a gimmick.
I hear what you are saying, but I replace my single electrode with, Bosch super 4, I've seen a noticeable difference in the way the car drives and a drop in fuel consumption.
Actually multi-electrode spark plugs are far older than the 1970's and invented by Lodge Spark Plugs during the 1950's. I have a boxed 1950's Lodge HH14 three electrode Sintox spark plug still in its wax paper instruction wrapping in my spark plug collection. They were intended for use in 2 stroke motors and offered anti-fouling, which was a problem on 1950's 2 stroke motors running Castrol R and SAE 30 oil (specialist 2 stroke oil didn't appear until the late 1960's). Having run Lodge Sintox plugs in 1970's and 1980's 2 stroke motorcycles the first noticeable improvement is the very real hike in low down engine torque and fuel economy as a result. This may be more down to the use of Sintox as the ceramic surrounding the soft iron anode as opposed to conventional Alumina Oxide ceramic as Sintox is slower to lose and gain heat than Alumina Oxide thus maintains a more constant temperature range during idle / cruising / hard acceleration engine conditions. However Sintox spark plugs take slightly longer to warm up to operating temperature from a cold start as a result. Having watched a Lodge tri-electrode spark plug operating on a twin cylinder motor I can attest to the fact that they do not spark on all electrodes at the same time but rotate the spark at random between electrodes.
Hey Andy, thanks for commenting! That's cool! You have an extensive "old plug" collection? That makes sense, those old engines had to foul out all the time I bet! Mazda's rotary engine burned a lot of oil as well, that's why they went with this design. Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
A friend swears by Brisk spark plugs (formerly a division of the Czech company PAL). They have factories in the US and South America. Having worked and tuned bike engines since 1980, I've learnt that engines will perform better on one brand of plugs than another, despite apparently being direct heat range equivalents. It depends on the engine so what gives a better performance on one manufacturer's engine type won't on another. The biggest problem currently is poor combustion caused by our EU / UK E5 unleaded petrol. Normal unleaded has a vapourisation point of 35 degrees C but adding 5% ethanol drops this to 18 degrees C. OK if an engine has a computer running the fuelling but a disaster for carbed engines especially those built originally to run higher energy content leaded petrol, as these engines are already nerfed in performance running on straight unleaded. The engines that suffer the most are 2 strokes (though some 4 strokes can also suffer in the same way) as once the cylinder has warmed up the fresh fuel air charge vapourises as soon as it enters the cylinder instead of when compressed and heated by the ceramic surrounding the spark plug. This results in a poor combustion burn as the spark plug is circumvented in its vapourisation role prior to providing the ignition spark. Poor combustion symptoms are excess soot, carboned plugs, excessive smoking, over heating engine and total loss of low down & midrange torque once the engine reaches operating temperature. Also prone to seizures on longer journeys. Jetting down will cause a holed piston so not a solution either. Reducing 2 stroke oil ratio will shorten engine bearing and piston ring life plus risk seizures during engine braking. The problem can make a mechanic believe that he or she is dealing with a weak ignition problem, which is how I was dealing with it. However after replacing complete ignition system component of several bikes, it became apparent it wasn't. By chance I found the Castrol engineers report on the problems and damage ethanol contaminate petrol causes to old school engines and the problem was solved. Castrol recommends mixing anywhere between 30:1 to 50:1 kerosene or diesel into the petrol. Adding kerosene or diesel to ethanol contaminated petrol raises the vapourisation point. I've experimented with 7 different 2 stroke bikes (50cc, 125cc, 150cc, 175cc 250cc 305cc and 350cc) and found adding 33:1 to 40:1 diesel cures the problem. Pretty much the problem lies with the politicians for allowing ethanol contamination of fuel in the first place. It's down to spark plug manufacturers, mechanics and vehicle owners to first figure out the various problems caused and then devise ways to circumvent them.
@@CZ350tuner do you indexed the different brands spark plugs uniformly when compare which one the engine liked the most ? Some time, because of random orientation of the ground electrodes even the same brand identical spark plugs could give you differences in engine performance . How important is it could judge by the fact that the auto manufacturers started to index the spark plugs straight from the factory and even sell uniformly treaded replacement spark plugs which guarantee you proper indexing if tighten to the recommended torque without the need to select the proper one from few randomly chosen spark plugs .
2) "how many miles should one replace..." Spark plug service intervals vary with plug type and the engine they are being used in. Please check your owner's manual or maintenance schedule for the most accurate recommendation of spark plug replacement intervals.
2 ground or more looks amaze you. My experience on my bike, 3 ground is worse than single ground. The Single ground spark is more stable thus smoother engine vibration. Don't trust a spark plug ads offering overclaiming benefits. I think what best for every engine is just follow the manual.
Hence I will always go for multielectrodes, rather than those fancy expensive iridium and platinum single ones which are the fad these days, and have more resistance too.
I drive a 392 (470hp) charger and believe me when I tell u my Bosch (double electrodes) has made a significant difference in performance. It has more brutal response than when I used Bosch single. Just my take. I'm keeping it
My concern is why multiple ground electrode plug has the open designs. Which looks practically as the spark is open and can ignite better than single electrode which curves and spark under . Because the plug is facing the intake and exhaust valve which with the multi electrode the spark is on the top which will increase ignition . Why they dont make single electrode side like multiple electrode? Now the design plays more role than the number of electrode
they work great until one of the grounds breaks off in your cylinder and you dont realize because it keeps firing so it bounces around until it fucks shit up
I was really surprised to hear the video actually point out the big flaw and misconception about the multi-ground electrode plugs. There are a lot of companies that make it seem like having more than one ground allows you to ignite the mixtures better and faster, when in reality you are significantly hurting your combustion efficiency at a cost of being able to run a plug longer.... good stuff.
Then why does toyota go through the trouble of putting those stickers on every damn motor they put out saying to only use twin ground electrodes? If they were in a business deal with the manufactures who made the twin grounders why would they say to only use the if it was just because they last longer.? Wouldnt they be more apt to rep different ones by the manufacturer because they would get changed sooner? And auto manufacturers never add things or make things where theyll last a lifetime because of supply and demand greed. I was always under the belief that the dual ground was there to act as more of a backup where a motor might be running wrong and fouling one of the grounds with buildup so the other ground will still fire which will burn off some of the buildup that was on the other electrode.. but could be wrong. Wonder what would happen if one had a bigger gap than the other grnd side.. you think the longer one would just buildup crap on it being unused or you think the shorter one would just fail sooner then suddenly the larger gap would take over and run hotter?
@@Z-Ack I have owned toyota's just about all my life. I have no idea what stickers you're talking about having to use dual ground plugs. Nor have I ever purchased anything direct from toyota that was a dual/triple/quad ground plug.. everything has been a standard, single ground plug. If you have a dual ground with different gaps, you will continuously arc to the path of least resistance... it's basic physics.. If you're at a point with a plug where you have a failing ground, like as in it burned off.. just replace the plugs. They aren't meant to last a lifetime of a motor.
@@Z-Ack It's an attempt to discourage the use of spark plug brands other than Denso because Toyota own 25% of Denso Corporation (formerly Nippon Denso).
The distance between the multiple ground electrode has to be perfectly equal, otherwise the one that's closest to the center electrode will always get the spark...defeating the purpose of multiple electrodes. Translation: don't even think about re-gapping.
Can the electrodes of these type of plug be gapped ? I have a set of BUR-5ET which I intend to use, since my valve seals are worn out and there is oil fouling. Whatever the cons you might say of multielectrode plugs, I am quite certain that your chances of proper firing and hence complete combustion are far better with more electrodes, since if one or more is too fouled to fire well, the spark will fire with the next nearest/cleaner electrode.
I have in my car 3 NGK Iridium spark plugs and a 4 electrode BOSH Platinium spark plug in the number 4 cilinder because the single electrode one started to get dirty with gas and oil but since putting the Bosh plug it's running ok with no smoke.
So are the multi grnd plugs un gapable? Or is there only the one spark gap preset on manufacture? Why wouldnt increasing the gap size change the flame if that was an issue with those type of plugs? Do multi grounded plugs run a greater risk of a ground electrode breaking off inside the cylinders?
I guess all of the advertisements you see on each spark plug box is fake and false advertising. I did not know that single electrodes work the best. Thanks for the info!
+Ko-wing wong you REALLY didnt understand the video did you in MANY vehicles the spark plugs are EXTREMELY hard to change so longevity and anti-fouling matters a LOT
+Mijc Osis (mycosys) hmm. I also drew from this video that single electrode spark plugs are best. Although the part of the talk that built up to this conclusion was kind of gobbledygook to me.
Hey NGK thanks for the informative video! My question is; Is it safe to run a single electrode (BKR6EGP) in a non turbo BMW instead of the quad electrode (BKR6EQUP)
I find most car owners that I have been asking if they would like they spark plug changed to the modern ones don't want these modern spark plugs. People are skeptical about these new developments. And most mechanics don't want to take the responsibility of recommending these modern spark plugs to customers.
3) "if one of the spark plug dies..." If a spark plug is no longer firing, A no start condition may occur on single cylinder engines. On multiple cylinder engines, harder starts, poor performance and noticeable engine misfiring will occur. Most automotive engines will illuminate a check engine light if misfire is detected.
I only use NGK spark plugs because you simply feel the difference between other manufacturers. The problem is: i currently use the NGK BKR 5 and it is said, that this plug is the wrong for my car (Vauxhaull Vectra B) if running on LPG. So what spark would i need?
For Cars 1) After how many miles one should clean spark plug? 2) After how many miles one should replace spark plug? 3) If one of the spark plug dies how do we come to know ?
nice to give credit to the Lodge spark plug, invented in 1908 with multi gap technology. Helped to make Alfa Romeo the winninest race car company to this day in companion with Alfa's invention of the hemispherical combustion chamber, perfect design for squeezing extra horsepower per litre and keeping combustion chamber clean and trouble free.
1) "how many miles should one clean..." If the engine is being operated in good condition, the spark plugs should become self-cleaning requiring no physical cleaning of the spark plugs.
I needed to replace my Honda Accord 2012 spark plugs, yet they gave me the option both of them where laser iridium, one was 95710, and the second was 5787, difference in price was about ten dollars each, and I asked what is the difference, and the person didn’t know. Is there a place in your web site where they can be compared side by side and give the difference?
Obvioulsy it will only spark towards the ground with the path of least resistance, it will never multi-spark. You need multiple spark plugs for true multi-spark, like some old Nissan engines.
Bought a used Honda Civic hatchback, not knowing the maintenance history of the car, I did a full tune-up. Cap, rotor, plugs, wires, ect... When pulling the spark plugs I noticed they were a Quad type plug, so I took the online forum Honda fanatics advice and put the correct NGK's in with the proper gap. Man, what a let down. There was a very noticeable loss in mpg, and overall power with NGK. There might be something to these "gimmicky" spark plugs.
can i use the multi tip spark plug in my toyota ms112 ? . . . i'm doing a total engine rebuild and want to turn out as much power as i can. would you recommend ?
i have an Mercedes E200 Kompressor....when i buy it she have sparck with 3 plugs.....i chenge them ...with a bosch 1 plug sparck....0000.....i replace them with the old NGK 3 plug spark...
Just bought 6 ngk 4 ground spark plugs and I'm not sure if those come pre gapped or not. AutoZone says they are not but orileys says they are. if I need to gap my plugs what tool will I need to use to gap them without damaging the plugs?
Well, my Camry originally came with twin electrode NGKs, so that's what I just bought at a cost of $40.. Now NGK is saying poo poo to multi electrodes. Should I send them back and buy Iridium single electrodes?
Hey Dbf Crell, if your car came with twin electrode plugs from the factory then that's what the car was designed to run and I would suggest putting those back in. Generally you wouldn't want to use a multi ground plug in an application that wasn't engineered for it. I'd be happy to grab you a part number for you car if you can hook me up with the year and engine size. Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@ngksparkplugsusa I just ordered the correct NGK double electrodes and they arrived, but I'm waiting on my Granatelli 0 Ohm ignition wires to arrive so they all can go in together. Now here's the weirder part... I'm also thinking about ordering some Brisk EVO plugs. Please tell me why I don't need to do this. If you have a great argument, I can be talked out of it and I'll just install the NGKs. The cost is not an issue, but I am very curious to see if a hotter, larger erratic spark without a protruding electrode will lead to better anything. What do you think?
May I ask...why 0 ohm wires? Not sure on the year of this Camry....but if it has electronics on it you will be messing with those. Resistance is in the wires to cut down on electrical interference. As for why NGK I have a super simple answer...What plug came in it from the factory? How many hours were spent developing the spark plug for that engine in original R&D? How many cars come with that other brands plug OE? There is a reason NGK is in so many cars from the factory. :) Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@ngksparkplugsusa Hi Mike, It's a 99 Camry XLE 2.2L utterly stock with the original wires. 83k on the clock. The 0 ohms are guaranteed not to interfere... but we'll see! They'll go right back if they do. On the Brisks, I would think cost would be a reasonable answer for the Brisks not to be in most cars from the factory, plus they weren't available yet when they designed my 4th gen engine. I realize they would be sick-overkill for a little 4 banger like mine, but one reason I had been thinking of doing this (which I just decided not to) is because I just sold my 98 Corolla 1.8L which got sick gas mileage (35mpg) and the Camry, which runs like new, only gets 26mpg. I drive 500 miles/wk. It's sorta killing me, and I know my Camry needs plugs and wires, so since these expensive wires and plugs promise a mileage increase, I was going to taking the Flame Kernel Challenge. Guess I'll just do the wires and send them back to Granatelli if they suck. Thanks for your words of wisdom.
Good luck! Hope everything works out ok. We also have wires for your car. Part # 8916. They are standard resistor wires, just like what came originally. Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
I don’t like 4 grounds it blocks the electric flow so then less power for massive explosions inside the compress gas and air mixture I texted this 4 grounds but only choose one ground or the most 2 for v8 or v12 v6 only needs single ground and it’s smooth and perfect in low rpm or racing,too much grounds and not gonna do anytime because the gas air mixture are fix every time all the time so no changes needed.On the other hand Honda engines are different 4 cylinder
Hey Canon RT, it really depends on the vehicle/engine. Generally we suggest 25-50K miles or about 40-75,000 km...what kind of car is this for? Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
This sounds like one of the wimpiest super heroes of all time, The Flame Kernel. He can barbeque meat from 6 feet away with heat from his hands. New Rule: Instead of saying flame kernel, say fireball.
My outboard engine, a Suzuki 4hp from 1995, only accept a Bosch super 4, spark plug. From the beginning the original sparkplug, was a single-ground sparkplug. I try to run it with a singe-ground spark plug, but the engine only die when i accelerate it. And when i replace the super 4, it goes like hell. i have not test NGK´s multiground sparkplug because it doesen´t exist on the Swedish market. Sorry for bad english, but my fucking teachers learn me Britain english.
Multiple ground electrode spark plugs are pre-gapped from the factory and require no adjustment. Furthermore, there is not an accurate tool or method to check/adjust the gap on multiple ground electrode spark plugs.
ngksparkplugsusa thats what i wanted to find out. I've been looking all around on how to gap these. Now i can just throw them into my bike. Hopefully i wont have any issues
Good to know I had a misconception that twin spark plug is better than one thank you for the information
Hey Ram Dey, glad we could help clear up any questions/misconceptions :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Scotty Kilmore would say different about these types of plugs....their garbage.
I just installed the bosch platinum+4 multis in my honda accord. It runs much better now. Smoother and no hesitation. I’m convinced
Hey Gene, how come you didn't run NGK's?!!? :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Cause I cant find the 4 ground type from NGK (or anyone else except Bosch). Checked the web site for an Accord NGK only lists 6 different single ground varieties. The theory presented here is all well and good. But the proof is in the actual performance in the real world. Multi ground is better in my experience.
I was suffering from hesitation and poor 1-2 shifting (delayed shifting up and down) for years. I thought my tranny was failing. After I put in the multis the hesitation was gone and shift is smooth. I believe poor engine performance causes poor shifting as the computer has trouble determining correct shift points.
This is not the first time I have tried multis. I used them back in the 70s in my Chrysler 300 and the difference was night and day.
Multiple ground electrode spark plugs are pre-gapped from the factory and require no adjustment. Furthermore, there is not an accurate tool or method to check/adjust the gap on multiple ground electrode spark plugs.
I bought double electrode spark plugs that described a 0.044 in gap. But when I measured them, the gaps are 0.025 or 0.023 and different on each side/electrode. What does this mean? Is the gap a total of the sum of each electrodes gap? Or is it suppose to be 0.044 on each side?
@@InuyashaMiles the plug just will work with the smallest gap until the erosion make it equal to the next ( as a size) one .
Thanks for your support!
I used single and double electrode ngk Spark plugs for my motorcycle, i found nothing new, single electrode sparkplug five more mileage than twin, finally Ngk plugs are reliable and user friendly
I wish these 2 ground electrode plugs were available in non-resistor. The only reason resistor plugs came about was to counteract EMI when cars still used distributors and had long plug wires to carry the HV which acted as antennas. Now that almost every car uses COP technology, the source of EMI (distributor and wires) has been eliminated so there's no reason to run resistor plugs anymore which do nothing but waste spark energy thereby reducing performance and fuel efficiency.
Bought some NGK laser platinum spark plugs for my car last weekend, they were double the price of other plugs, but I'm overly happy with my purchase, engine is running a dream now! No more misfires! Feels really smooth when revving too. Would definitely recommend NGK plugs! 10/10
Just bought/Installed your platinum series 4 prong spark plugs...initials startup was very un settling as it sputtered about for 2-3 seconds after that......... :D VERY NICE AND SMOOTH ENGINE RUNS BEAUTIFUL WITH 250,000 MILES
I clearly noticed the big difference between the 4 ground and a single ground on my 4 cylinder bmw e46, and this information is very true.
+Bosman Ragga whats better
+KINGCALLO A single ground performs better by far. I can clearly feel the difference between the 2. Even onn fuel consumption.
+Bosman Ragga
My car has three ground plug. Do you recommend single ground for better speed and economy
+Usama Ahmad Definately yes according to my experience in my car and the explanation on this video. Try them and see what effect you'll get from them. Both Multi-ground and Single ground plug have their individual disadvantages but single-ground plugs have better advantages than multi ones.
I have been using E3 spark plugs on my 2000 Toyota Hellica since the 150,000 mark and just passed the 300,000 mile mark with flying colors. Personal opinion they Rock .!!!
This design was used in aircraft engines 70 years ago for reliability & is still used now. The main benefit was if one earth wire gap was fouled with oil then the next path of least resistance would spark ensuring continued cylinder firing. In automotive practice, it's just a gimmick.
I hear what you are saying, but I replace my single electrode with, Bosch super 4, I've seen a noticeable difference in the way the car drives and a drop in fuel consumption.
Actually multi-electrode spark plugs are far older than the 1970's and invented by Lodge Spark Plugs during the 1950's.
I have a boxed 1950's Lodge HH14 three electrode Sintox spark plug still in its wax paper instruction wrapping in my spark plug collection.
They were intended for use in 2 stroke motors and offered anti-fouling, which was a problem on 1950's 2 stroke motors running Castrol R and SAE 30 oil (specialist 2 stroke oil didn't appear until the late 1960's).
Having run Lodge Sintox plugs in 1970's and 1980's 2 stroke motorcycles the first noticeable improvement is the very real hike in low down engine torque and fuel economy as a result. This may be more down to the use of Sintox as the ceramic surrounding the soft iron anode as opposed to conventional Alumina Oxide ceramic as Sintox is slower to lose and gain heat than Alumina Oxide thus maintains a more constant temperature range during idle / cruising / hard acceleration engine conditions. However Sintox spark plugs take slightly longer to warm up to operating temperature from a cold start as a result.
Having watched a Lodge tri-electrode spark plug operating on a twin cylinder motor I can attest to the fact that they do not spark on all electrodes at the same time but rotate the spark at random between electrodes.
Hey Andy, thanks for commenting! That's cool! You have an extensive "old plug" collection? That makes sense, those old engines had to foul out all the time I bet! Mazda's rotary engine burned a lot of oil as well, that's why they went with this design.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
A friend swears by Brisk spark plugs (formerly a division of the Czech company PAL). They have factories in the US and South America.
Having worked and tuned bike engines since 1980, I've learnt that engines will perform better on one brand of plugs than another, despite apparently being direct heat range equivalents. It depends on the engine so what gives a better performance on one manufacturer's engine type won't on another.
The biggest problem currently is poor combustion caused by our EU / UK E5 unleaded petrol. Normal unleaded has a vapourisation point of 35 degrees C but adding 5% ethanol drops this to 18 degrees C. OK if an engine has a computer running the fuelling but a disaster for carbed engines especially those built originally to run higher energy content leaded petrol, as these engines are already nerfed in performance running on straight unleaded.
The engines that suffer the most are 2 strokes (though some 4 strokes can also suffer in the same way) as once the cylinder has warmed up the fresh fuel air charge vapourises as soon as it enters the cylinder instead of when compressed and heated by the ceramic surrounding the spark plug. This results in a poor combustion burn as the spark plug is circumvented in its vapourisation role prior to providing the ignition spark.
Poor combustion symptoms are excess soot, carboned plugs, excessive smoking, over heating engine and total loss of low down & midrange torque once the engine reaches operating temperature. Also prone to seizures on longer journeys. Jetting down will cause a holed piston so not a solution either. Reducing 2 stroke oil ratio will shorten engine bearing and piston ring life plus risk seizures during engine braking.
The problem can make a mechanic believe that he or she is dealing with a weak ignition problem, which is how I was dealing with it. However after replacing complete ignition system component of several bikes, it became apparent it wasn't.
By chance I found the Castrol engineers report on the problems and damage ethanol contaminate petrol causes to old school engines and the problem was solved.
Castrol recommends mixing anywhere between 30:1 to 50:1 kerosene or diesel into the petrol. Adding kerosene or diesel to ethanol contaminated petrol raises the vapourisation point.
I've experimented with 7 different 2 stroke bikes (50cc, 125cc, 150cc, 175cc 250cc 305cc and 350cc) and found adding 33:1 to 40:1 diesel cures the problem.
Pretty much the problem lies with the politicians for allowing ethanol contamination of fuel in the first place. It's down to spark plug manufacturers, mechanics and vehicle owners to first figure out the various problems caused and then devise ways to circumvent them.
@@CZ350tuner do you indexed the different brands spark plugs uniformly when compare which one the engine liked the most ? Some time, because of random orientation of the ground electrodes even the same brand identical spark plugs could give you differences in engine performance . How important is it could judge by the fact that the auto manufacturers started to index the spark plugs straight from the factory and even sell uniformly treaded replacement spark plugs which guarantee you proper indexing if tighten to the recommended torque without the need to select the proper one from few randomly chosen spark plugs .
Didn't really notice any power gain, but the engine just ran very smooth used to splutter a LOT just purrs nicely now :)
Thank you for the truth! way to go NGK
2) "how many miles should one replace..."
Spark plug service intervals vary with plug type and the engine they are being used in. Please check your owner's manual or maintenance schedule for the most accurate recommendation of spark plug replacement intervals.
@CapnCrossbones i mean the singe electrode Irridiums btw they do not burn out easy and they are cheaper than multi electrodes.
2 ground or more looks amaze you. My experience on my bike, 3 ground is worse than single ground. The Single ground spark is more stable thus smoother engine vibration. Don't trust a spark plug ads offering overclaiming benefits. I think what best for every engine is just follow the manual.
Good advice. Always follow the manual.
Only NGK is real
Love for NGK
Thanks Canon RT!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Hence I will always go for multielectrodes, rather than those
fancy expensive iridium and platinum single ones which are the fad
these days, and have more resistance too.
NGKs to me are comparable to Densos. The Densos I found more powerful in my 1998 Corolla but in terms of longevity, NGK is the number one.
I drive a 392 (470hp) charger and believe me when I tell u my Bosch (double electrodes) has made a significant difference in performance. It has more brutal response than when I used Bosch single. Just my take. I'm keeping it
My concern is why multiple ground electrode plug has the open designs. Which looks practically as the spark is open and can ignite better than single electrode which curves and spark under . Because the plug is facing the intake and exhaust valve which with the multi electrode the spark is on the top which will increase ignition . Why they dont make single electrode side like multiple electrode? Now the design plays more role than the number of electrode
My truck came with platinum NGK spark plugs, think I'll stick with those.
they work great until one of the grounds breaks off in your cylinder and you dont realize because it keeps firing so it bounces around until it fucks shit up
Maybe you should service your car once in a while then you'd never have plugs that old.
I was really surprised to hear the video actually point out the big flaw and misconception about the multi-ground electrode plugs.
There are a lot of companies that make it seem like having more than one ground allows you to ignite the mixtures better and faster, when in reality you are significantly hurting your combustion efficiency at a cost of being able to run a plug longer.... good stuff.
Then why does toyota go through the trouble of putting those stickers on every damn motor they put out saying to only use twin ground electrodes? If they were in a business deal with the manufactures who made the twin grounders why would they say to only use the if it was just because they last longer.? Wouldnt they be more apt to rep different ones by the manufacturer because they would get changed sooner? And auto manufacturers never add things or make things where theyll last a lifetime because of supply and demand greed. I was always under the belief that the dual ground was there to act as more of a backup where a motor might be running wrong and fouling one of the grounds with buildup so the other ground will still fire which will burn off some of the buildup that was on the other electrode.. but could be wrong. Wonder what would happen if one had a bigger gap than the other grnd side.. you think the longer one would just buildup crap on it being unused or you think the shorter one would just fail sooner then suddenly the larger gap would take over and run hotter?
@@Z-Ack I have owned toyota's just about all my life. I have no idea what stickers you're talking about having to use dual ground plugs. Nor have I ever purchased anything direct from toyota that was a dual/triple/quad ground plug.. everything has been a standard, single ground plug.
If you have a dual ground with different gaps, you will continuously arc to the path of least resistance... it's basic physics..
If you're at a point with a plug where you have a failing ground, like as in it burned off.. just replace the plugs. They aren't meant to last a lifetime of a motor.
@@Z-Ack It's an attempt to discourage the use of spark plug brands other than Denso because Toyota own 25% of Denso Corporation (formerly Nippon Denso).
My Volvo has 3 prong spark plugs (made by NGK)... are you saying single prong spark plugs are better? Which is better: platinum or iridium?
The distance between the multiple ground electrode has to be perfectly equal, otherwise the one that's closest to the center electrode will always get the spark...defeating the purpose of multiple electrodes. Translation: don't even think about re-gapping.
Thanks...great choice and thanks for your support.
Multiple eletrodos or Iridium? Whats better choice?
Denso iridium TT and NGK Ruthenium
Very informative, one question though, how do you set the gap on these? Or is this unnecessary?
Can the electrodes of these type of plug be gapped ?
I have a set of BUR-5ET which I intend to use, since my
valve seals are worn out and there is oil fouling.
Whatever the cons you might say of multielectrode plugs,
I am quite certain that your chances of proper firing and hence
complete combustion are far better with more electrodes, since
if one or more is too fouled to fire well, the spark will fire with the
next nearest/cleaner electrode.
I have in my car 3 NGK Iridium spark plugs and a 4 electrode BOSH Platinium spark plug in the number 4 cilinder because the single electrode one started to get dirty with gas and oil but since putting the Bosh plug it's running ok with no smoke.
This is called ( or perfect example of) out of the box thinking:)
So are the multi grnd plugs un gapable? Or is there only the one spark gap preset on manufacture? Why wouldnt increasing the gap size change the flame if that was an issue with those type of plugs? Do multi grounded plugs run a greater risk of a ground electrode breaking off inside the cylinders?
I guess all of the advertisements you see on each spark plug box is fake and false advertising. I did not know that single electrodes work the best. Thanks for the info!
+Ko-wing wong you REALLY didnt understand the video did you
in MANY vehicles the spark plugs are EXTREMELY hard to change so longevity and anti-fouling matters a LOT
+Mijc Osis (mycosys) hmm. I also drew from this video that single electrode spark plugs are best. Although the part of the talk that built up to this conclusion was kind of gobbledygook to me.
Mijc Osis Yeahhh but I have the Bosch 4 ground ones in my B16a2 and I'm going to switch back to single ground NGK BKR7E-11 plugs.
Hey NGK thanks for the informative video! My question is; Is it safe to run a single electrode (BKR6EGP) in a non turbo BMW instead of the quad electrode (BKR6EQUP)
Did he say "flame kernel" LOL! Dang spark plug nerds!
I find most car owners that I have been asking if they would like they spark plug changed to the modern ones don't want these modern spark plugs. People are skeptical about these new developments. And most mechanics don't want to take the responsibility of recommending these modern spark plugs to customers.
It's because they can sense these are trash and they are right
3) "if one of the spark plug dies..."
If a spark plug is no longer firing, A no start condition may occur on single cylinder engines. On multiple cylinder engines, harder starts, poor performance and noticeable engine misfiring will occur. Most automotive engines will illuminate a check engine light if misfire is detected.
I only use NGK spark plugs because you simply feel the difference between other manufacturers.
The problem is: i currently use the NGK BKR 5 and it is said, that this plug is the wrong for my car (Vauxhaull Vectra B) if running on LPG.
So what spark would i need?
Glad you enjoyed it.
For Cars
1) After how many miles one should clean spark plug?
2) After how many miles one should replace spark plug?
3) If one of the spark plug dies how do we come to know ?
Will It work for Japanese sportbikes well?
nice to give credit to the Lodge spark plug, invented in 1908 with multi gap technology. Helped to make Alfa Romeo the winninest race car company to this day in companion with Alfa's invention of the hemispherical combustion chamber, perfect design for squeezing extra horsepower per litre and keeping combustion chamber clean and trouble free.
Carie Voss
1) "how many miles should one clean..."
If the engine is being operated in good condition, the spark plugs should become self-cleaning requiring no physical cleaning of the spark plugs.
NGK 2360 CR10EK Multi-Ground Plug VS NGK 3521 CR9EIX technical specifications are the same
Which spark plug can give more performance for Motorcycle?
What do I gap my 02 525i bmw ngk spark plugs to?
How come in my engine that was designed for dual electrode spark plugs be more economical with 3 electrode spark plugs install?
I needed to replace my Honda Accord 2012 spark plugs, yet they gave me the option both of them where laser iridium, one was 95710, and the second was 5787, difference in price was about ten dollars each, and I asked what is the difference, and the person didn’t know.
Is there a place in your web site where they can be compared side by side and give the difference?
Obvioulsy it will only spark towards the ground with the path of least resistance, it will never multi-spark. You need multiple spark plugs for true multi-spark, like some old Nissan engines.
Hurricane Floyd or Chryslers penthouse "Hemi" engines
Or Alpha Romeo twinspark engines
And alpha Romeos (T-Spark)
Or Suzuki DR .
Hurricane Floyd
do multi point electrode plugs need gapping at set mileage like single electrode ones or are they designed not to be gapped during their life thanks
old nissan z24 engine :) 8 valves with 8 spark plug
posso colocar uma vela de dois pinos em um palio fire 1.0 de mesmo grau termico e mesmo diametro e comprimento da de 1 pino no eletrodo
Bought a used Honda Civic hatchback, not knowing the maintenance history of the car, I did a full tune-up. Cap, rotor, plugs, wires, ect...
When pulling the spark plugs I noticed they were a Quad type plug, so I took the online forum Honda fanatics advice and put the correct NGK's in with the proper gap.
Man, what a let down. There was a very noticeable loss in mpg, and overall power with NGK.
There might be something to these "gimmicky" spark plugs.
Ok, so whats better for my audi 2002 a6, laser platinum spark plugs or the iridium (sp) spark plugs?
are 4 electrode sparkplug also good for motorcycles?
no
can i use the multi tip spark plug in my toyota ms112 ? . . . i'm doing a total engine rebuild and want to turn out as much power as i can. would you recommend ?
those sparkplugs are usealy used for piston airplane engines
i use e3 diamond fires :)
e3 is the only plug that I can start my older Husqvarna chainsaw without spraying starting fluid after it has been sitting for weeks, months.
this is my problem this clip is very very true, but multiple sparkplugs look good :))
I cut off all the electrodes except one making it an awesome side firing spark plug 👍, remember only one of those electrodes can ground out at once.
Hey James, why not just buy one of our side firing plugs? Save yourself some work :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@ngksparkplugsusa I just did that for shitz and giggles, that particular spark plug came with a kit.I run bpr6hix in my motorized bicycles.
i just like these could i use them in a 1988 Chevy nova ps most part made by Toyota
1. Infinite 2. When 3 occurs. 3 You will notice when this happens.
i have an Mercedes E200 Kompressor....when i buy it she have sparck with 3 plugs.....i chenge them ...with a bosch 1 plug sparck....0000.....i replace them with the old NGK 3 plug spark...
Thanks
Just bought 6 ngk 4 ground spark plugs and I'm not sure if those come pre gapped or not. AutoZone says they are not but orileys says they are. if I need to gap my plugs what tool will I need to use to gap them without damaging the plugs?
jonathan hernandez yes they come pre-gapped. But you can mess the gaps up by bumping, hitting or dropping them.
Well, my Camry originally came with twin electrode NGKs, so that's what I just bought at a cost of $40.. Now NGK is saying poo poo to multi electrodes. Should I send them back and buy Iridium single electrodes?
Hey Dbf Crell, if your car came with twin electrode plugs from the factory then that's what the car was designed to run and I would suggest putting those back in. Generally you wouldn't want to use a multi ground plug in an application that wasn't engineered for it. I'd be happy to grab you a part number for you car if you can hook me up with the year and engine size.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@ngksparkplugsusa I just ordered the correct NGK double electrodes and they arrived, but I'm waiting on my Granatelli 0 Ohm ignition wires to arrive so they all can go in together. Now here's the weirder part... I'm also thinking about ordering some Brisk EVO plugs. Please tell me why I don't need to do this. If you have a great argument, I can be talked out of it and I'll just install the NGKs. The cost is not an issue, but I am very curious to see if a hotter, larger erratic spark without a protruding electrode will lead to better anything. What do you think?
May I ask...why 0 ohm wires? Not sure on the year of this Camry....but if it has electronics on it you will be messing with those. Resistance is in the wires to cut down on electrical interference. As for why NGK I have a super simple answer...What plug came in it from the factory? How many hours were spent developing the spark plug for that engine in original R&D? How many cars come with that other brands plug OE? There is a reason NGK is in so many cars from the factory. :)
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
@@ngksparkplugsusa Hi Mike, It's a 99 Camry XLE 2.2L utterly stock with the original wires. 83k on the clock. The 0 ohms are guaranteed not to interfere... but we'll see! They'll go right back if they do. On the Brisks, I would think cost would be a reasonable answer for the Brisks not to be in most cars from the factory, plus they weren't available yet when they designed my 4th gen engine. I realize they would be sick-overkill for a little 4 banger like mine, but one reason I had been thinking of doing this (which I just decided not to) is because I just sold my 98 Corolla 1.8L which got sick gas mileage (35mpg) and the Camry, which runs like new, only gets 26mpg. I drive 500 miles/wk. It's sorta killing me, and I know my Camry needs plugs and wires, so since these expensive wires and plugs promise a mileage increase, I was going to taking the Flame Kernel Challenge. Guess I'll just do the wires and send them back to Granatelli if they suck. Thanks for your words of wisdom.
Good luck! Hope everything works out ok. We also have wires for your car. Part # 8916. They are standard resistor wires, just like what came originally.
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
Ey I need spark plugs of 4 electrodes for that motor of the vídeo, is a cavalier Ecotec 2.2, what is the number of part?
@Limou551 i agree with you....
Thank you Captain Tacit!
XD
My car misfired with single ground and it didn’t with 4 it was the weirdest thing
Great
Thanks for watching Akash!
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
I don’t like 4 grounds it blocks the electric flow so then less power for massive explosions inside the compress gas and air mixture I texted this 4 grounds but only choose one ground or the most 2 for v8 or v12 v6 only needs single ground and it’s smooth and perfect in low rpm or racing,too much grounds and not gonna do anytime because the gas air mixture are fix every time all the time so no changes needed.On the other hand Honda engines are different 4 cylinder
How kilo life time NGK Iridium IX spark plug?
Hey Canon RT, it really depends on the vehicle/engine. Generally we suggest 25-50K miles or about 40-75,000 km...what kind of car is this for?
Mike Becker, Senior Technical Instructor
250 cc motorcycle
what will happen if i place twim head spark plug in the place of single head spark plug does it effects engine.?
All you Want to Know
Electricity takes the line of least resistance. So why 4 grounds.
Very good question. This is explained @ 57sec
+ngksparkplugsusa no it isn't explained why 4 grounds @ 0:57. If anything, it explains why 4 grounds are unnecessary.
Having four grounds just reduces the chances of it getting fouled.
+Buddhapatties like a failsafe for misfires
maybe, when residue builds up on a ground pin, electricity now have three other options.
I can mount BOSCH SUPER 4 of 125cc bike? thanks
how much is it ?
Does it suit for Honda NHX/ LEAD 110 ???
So E3 plugs aren't the way to go...? Their claim is, more contact points lead to more spark and overall power.
i choice NGK BKR 7 for my honda b series engine...
Vpower?
Would these be good for a a civic 1999 vtec
OK
hi, where do i get my NGK sparkplug stickers?
And i always thought 4 grounds on the spark plugs gave 4 times the spark LOL
Its 4 so it won't lose the electric kernel.
Its 4 so it won't lose the flame kernel.
ok so I learned from this................................ doughnuts taste good
my spark plugs are as shown in the video. Can I just change them out and use the single ground electrode iradium plugs?
I don't see why not as long as it fits but I would go with what your manual says they use them for their reasons
Their reasons are usually money
Great for Helicopters and prop planes pretty useless for cars especially since Iridium plugs got introduced.
This sounds like one of the wimpiest super heroes of all time, The Flame Kernel. He can barbeque meat from 6 feet away with heat from his hands.
New Rule: Instead of saying flame kernel, say fireball.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER, SO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND THE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE REASON OF - W H Y ??? !!! ??? Thank you.
My outboard engine, a Suzuki 4hp from 1995, only accept a Bosch super 4, spark plug.
From the beginning the original sparkplug, was a single-ground sparkplug.
I try to run it with a singe-ground spark plug, but the engine only die when i accelerate it.
And when i replace the super 4, it goes like hell.
i have not test NGK´s multiground sparkplug because it doesen´t exist on the Swedish market.
Sorry for bad english, but my fucking teachers learn me Britain english.
ignition coil problem...
Iridiums are my sex
Hey Alex, when you have a minute give us a call we would be glad to explain. NGK Tech M-F 8:30AM-5:30PM ET at 877-473-6767.
bye the way I have a 05 dodge Dakoda with a 318, 4.7 liter truck
Tom Baker 4.7 is not a 318
Msd
this isnt NGK support lmao
Stick with Copper the rest is what we call snake oil.....;-)
Old comment. But iridium and platinum last 40k+ miles while a copper will only last 3k or so...
Dude its a load of bullshit, it only sparks on one of the four electrodes! The other three just crew up a clean burn, just get regular NGK ones...
Promoted by NGK so fake news.
Thanks for your support!
Multiple ground electrode spark plugs are pre-gapped from the factory and require no adjustment. Furthermore, there is not an accurate tool or method to check/adjust the gap on multiple ground electrode spark plugs.
ngksparkplugsusa thats what i wanted to find out. I've been looking all around on how to gap these. Now i can just throw them into my bike. Hopefully i wont have any issues
J-Will if they fit your good no need to gap