iRacing Now Has AI for IndyCar, And It's the IndyCar Experience I Wanted
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
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2021 AI skins and rosters:
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Tracks iRacing needs still if you wanted a full "proper" IndyCar game:
St. Pete, Toronto, Nashville
Tracks iRacing has that need AI added still:
Belle Isle
Tracks iRacing has already, AI for, and that the real series should have:
insert most every major oval you'd like that still exists
Features missing:
Honda/Chevy engines (they only have one, forget which it was in the iRacing car), qualifying rules, not sure the AI actually uses P2P, rain, FCY on road courses
When you consider it's not an IndyCar game nor tries to truly be one, it's really pretty dang close.
With some tidying up the AI balance and cold tires so the season functionality would be viable I'd actually want to run an offline season for once - could make a really solid "best of" calendar given people not showing up to oval races isn't a problem in a video game...
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I feel like iRacing is coming together as a better and better general-purpose sim. If only you didn't have to pay for the online services to race offline.
Exactly, I’d pay $100 for all the ai content. One time fee, no subscription no online racing but for whatever reason they don’t seem interested in additional revenue streams.
@@christopheralfveby9472 It's because everything, including the AI, are delivered as a live service. They constantly get updates, new tracks, and are implemented on new cars. If iR released the AI in it's current state as a standalone purchase, it would be very incomplete. Plus, from a pricing standpoint, I'm pretty sure we are well over the $100 mark for all the AI content (tracks + cars).
I agree about being offline, they could easily change this and only enforce compulsory updates if you wanted to race online. On the other hand, I think the ongoing improvement of the sim as a whole warrants the annual fee. I get the arguments in paying for extra content, but if these fees are used (as they seem to be) to make new cars/tracks/features then I understand the payment model.
@@Sturmovik1946 absolutely, it's just one of those things as a guy who works on strange schedules and isn't in love with online racing, i'd want. i also understand there's a million reasons its int the way it is and that's fine. there's just sooo much potential
I don’t know. I’m a fan boy I guess. I truely feel they try to be the best and keep updating and trying. I am older and in a position where I don’t want it to die out. I would honestly pay more a month I think it’s that good. Next option is real life and then you will see what it costs lol
Thanks for the review of it Matt! I gotta try it out at some point but for some reason I'm just not compelled to jump to it, might be the IR18 isn't inspiring to me. Either way, im sure once the real season rolls around I'll get the hankering !
We need a third generation of Axelson!
The ir-18 is a good car. Deff recommend putting in the time to learn it.
@@Bobbarker23455 It's better now, but lets face some realities. A 90's CART era car(s) would be much better 😉😄
@@simrigpc27b12 man cart and f1 was better in the 90's. so was nascar deff was a great era in racing!
@@Bobbarker23455 The pinnacle in all honesty!
Iracing has tons of feedback now from real drivers. I feel it has the best content ever coming out now
I'm looking forward to giving this a go. Maybe setting up a championship on circuits Indy would never go to and dip in and out when I don't have time for an online race.
I did an hour-long Indy Pro race on the Hungarian circuit, I didn't see the time pass! I am really happy that this car is added with AI because there were very few people in multi for the road circuits. Long races await me! Thanks for this video :)
Glad you are back! Would love more in depth tutorials on the Dallara 1R18 especially with oval racing. I do the road races once a month and but have trouble with the ovals in indy car....glad I can practice now.
The AI in iRacing is such a unique discussion on a principle level as well as a financial one. I agree, someone should not get iRacing solely for the AI because the financial part of it is crazy (and they don't even have all the tracks for indycar). But...if someone was super into Indycar and they want a more authentic experience than anything around, maybe the allure of off-line and on-line racing is worth it? I don't know, it's a tough sell and I'm not sure there's one right answer for it. I do appreciate that AI is an option though.
They could at some point disconnect the offline AI racing from the online paying experience .. I mean who wants to race AI only would still buy the content anyway but wouldn't have to pay the online sub. I would welcome that option. :)
I'll be honest I've pretty much raced AI only since spring of last year and I've enjoyed it and felt like I've gotten my monies worth ten fold. Then again I utilize the seasons like a career mode and progress through them, but it's been great. Only thing that sucks is that everytime a new season comes out I have to readjust my ratings and it takes 2 or 3 weeks to tweak good, but it's been awesome
@@emmanuelsantiago6641 Same here, ever since moving to the country my internet speed is terrible and I cant race online.
" I don't know, it's a tough sell and I'm not sure there's one right answer for it.". Not sure what you're trying to say.
I'm having so much fun with Indycar AI in iRacing. Who would have thought a couple years ago iRacing would have the best AI in sim racing 😅
It makes sense that iRacing would have the best AI since they have the biggest set of player telemetry data to draw from.
im setting up a indy 500 in iracing. how do you set up your AI?
@@spookytkid not sure what you mean. How do you race the AI all together or what do you mean exactly?
@@Jt7166 no how do you set them up. how did you decide their skill strength. what AIsettings have made the most fun racing for you?
@@spookytkid for strength, that's something you just have to do some trial and error with. I would start somewhere in the 70% strength range. Run a practice session and then see how your lap times compare to the AI. Then adjust accordingly
This makes me wish that iRacing had a separate pricing model for single player/offline mode. Say, you pay a fixed price for the car and a select number of tracks limited to single player only, and then if you want to branch out to multiplayer you pay for the subscription. I think this is an idea worth considering, because you're not gonna get this kind of IndyCar experience in any other sim. ESPECIALLY on ovals.
or to make the singleplayer portion more of a traditional free to play title. You only would have to pay subscription to access multiplayer racing, otherwise the free content would actually be free, and you get to pick and choose what to buy, same as now but use them with AI.
Been having a blast with the IndyCar AI as well! I've also seen/noticed basically all the same things that you had complaints with, I mentioned the cold tires thing on the forums too so hopefully that gets improved. Also I'm one of the people that re-subscribed to iRacing just to race AI offline. I don't really race online in general, but the iRacing AI is so much better than what any other sims have to offer at the moment, and with how many types of cars are getting AI support, I get more than enough use out of iRacing for it to be totally worth it just for the AI. It's really the only sim I've even touched the last few months
EB, we mis ya bud! Hope to see ya on track again sometime
At last iRacing AI content I was hoping and asking to see on this channel since AI was introduced!!!
Been a long time. Hope everything is good.
Matt, great video! I will be completely honest, I resubscribed Black Friday and while I love the idea of racing online. I am not that great and don’t always like the idea of racing online. I really tried hard with race room but there was not enough bad people for me to enjoy it. Most games I have the difficulty set to about 85 so I get blown out by above average drivers. Until I can gain the confidence, I’m not entirely too comfortable online and prefer offline. I live in Indy and grew up a IndyCar fan so finding out iRacing added INDYCAR AI, is music to my ears and I’ll be buying some more content to race a AI season this weekend. Have you tried Indy yet? Both GP and Oval?
Iracing has a thing with their AI that really is special and i hope some day we get a proper single player sim for Indycar or NASCAR especially considering Motorsports Games is a joke
I love the AI in iRacing (when they aren't stupid). Online racing is great, but sometimes I want to either switch off and not worry about ruining someone else's race, or run a series that doesn't have good participation in times I can make.
Just wish they would add the remaining road courses quicker.
Heeeeeey. Mid-Ohio. They just got rid of the bridge at turn 7 by the way. Especially if the track gets repaved, I think it’s time for a rescan.
Good to know. I'm moving up there this spring
It's been 10 months... where ya at?
I added your Adrian Fernandez livery as soon as I made my AI roster for this. I knew this video would pop up sooner or later ;D
Great Review, once they have every car down and done for iRacing AI (of course they will be tweaking stuff forever) it will be a game changer! It would also be neat if they added where a driver had a different skill lever for each kind of track in the “series” or season schedule
These cars feel so good now and the AI is outstanding. I’ve been doing the same. Lots of AI races
fiddling with race (car/track/AI difficulty/aggression) is something I struggled with when I dove into Assetto Corsa more seriously than merely drifting around and/or swapping engines to/fro other cars w/ the car edit tool...
The thing I loved about AC was the Content Manager application. I was a little on the fence about installing some third party software for a ''content manager" but it's so nifty, can save all kinds of setups/things. That being said, I miss SIM racing, fell back down the rabbit hole that is MMOs (WoW specifically (even more specifically VanillaPlus)). I'll have to do something about that....
The first thing I did with the new update was race some Indy cars :D Thanks for the info about the difficulty settings and cold tires.
I'm surprised to see the AI being this good, I should look more into them to train
Imagine if they sold the offline game for a set price and charged for content RaceRoom style……… a man can dream.
The AI is programmed for each individual track, instead of a general one-size-fits-all.
This is such a great tool to learn how to be better at your racecraft while not impeding other multiplayer drivers.
I love multi class racing with the AI, wish we could have it at lemans though
I know you're not an F1 guy, but any chance of u trying out the W12 E for the lolz?
Anyone remember the old IndyCar Racing 2 game from the 90's? I sure would love to drive that Cleveland airport track again.
Is it possible to adjust the Ai difficulty between sessions? I've found it useful on rFactor-based titles to do practice, adjust the Ai with big swings in the difficulty if needed, then do Qualifying and adjust as needed, then after the race adjust again and use that value to start practice of the next race, if that makes sense. If it's not an option it would be rather annoying to have to constantly enter and exit just to adjust the AI.
This is the big drawback, you can't adjust it as you go, you have to start a new session. It would be good to be able to set up a curve during the race, like they are 120 at the start and at pit stops but 80 for the rest of the race.
Definitely going to attempt at creating a season with AI for the Indycar after watching this.
Thanks for the report. Here's looking forward to the Bathurst video. Also, would you be interested in giving other circuits a try which these cars don't normally race at, such as Road Atlanta, VIR, Montreal, NOLA, the Donnybrooke layout of Brainerd International Speedway? Or maybe a historic track like Riverside?
They need improvement around Long Beach. It's a bit of a bloodbath with aero parts slung all over the streets. That said, its still an absolute blast racing them there.
sometimes Long Beach can be that way in real life. Its either completely clean or stupidity everywhere.
I was against AI being added but Totally with you. I posted a GT3 Porsche race at Bathurst to CZcams this weekend. Ran with AI and had an amazing race. Had to fight for every position and forgot I was racing AI What I loved, and find with online iRacing - I didn’t have to worry about the dive bomb and found I was racing harder than I would in a ‘real’ race.
I get frustrated racing in small grids or finding out the race will be unofficial due to lack of entries so racing to my schedule with AI is a winner. One question - can you post a video on how to download and use skins and names for the whole grid….. only know how to do my car!!
I'm an EmptyBox fan. I literally drive whatever Matt goes for. I'm crap at NASCAR though. hope you can give more tips on conquering the oval races.
What do you struggle with on nascar?
@@racegrubb2152 is being smooth I guess. I always get on to the straights twitchy. the next thing that happens is when I dab the brakes and whoosh! I get a big tank slapper I can't recover from. 😅
Knockhill, aka the place any race car becomes a trophy truck.
I just wish that we had a lesser version of the SR and IR ratings for the AI races. This way, we could still work on our licenses and stuff, but it wouldn’t count as much as racing officials, but we wouldn’t be left out either. Rookies should also have to do AI racing first. This would have helped me, if I new about it first.
I really hope to see a single player/multiplayer game/simulator from Papyrus again like in the days of Nascar 2003 and indy 1 and 2 this maybe the beginning of my hopes. I still won't pay to play even after all these years of being a Papyrus fan boy lol.
If they make a game with AI again i would buy it instantly and i doubt i alone in this. I totally agree with you Empty box i can't afford subs.
nahh! Ai is 100% worth it Ive been having so much fun playing! Try 60 car street stocks at SoBo! no yellows 100 laps 3 FR
nr2003 is finally being surpassed, lol
Seems to me like IndyCar participation has been going up.
What do you think of the w12?
Insanity
Gosh, how did I miss this!! Cool!!
The AIs are good. You don’t get yelled at. 😂🤣😂🤣. Seriously though. I use the AIs to learn and not ruin my SR and IR.
So... Matt vs Ai IndyCar Full Season Gameplay? Maybe?
0:32 Very interesting. Where would you be going? Thank you very much.
When you dial in the AI, it makes for some really good race practice sessions. that, and over ened of year real world racing absence, setup an AI race, and you've got some of your faorite racing to watch :D Ad free! lol.
good to see you again :)
So many memories made @ Mid-Ohio
Hey! how do I get this indy series on my iRacing account? new to all this. Thanks!
You can create custom roster on iracing too. So you can make the real grid and give them different levels of agressiveness, car control, instincts, etc. Long Beach is mega in these beast open wheels
If iRacing can get the rest of their AI to reach this quality, I'll finally cough up the money for the platform. Trying to race online in Assetto Corsa is just a headache unless it's Sunday, my PC isn't quite strong enough to run ACC, and the other sims I have don't have strong online presence. Most of the titles I can run have mediocre-at-VERY-best AI, and it gets tiresome racing them because they lack any race craft. Either they're just too slow, or way too aggressive around the player.
That battle with Herta impressed me. And 2 cars were battling for position up ahead as well, and it looked believable. If they can create that across the board, they can have my money.
What’s the circuits used in the vid, I’m a Brit with not much idea 😬
First clip : Mid Ohio
Second clip : Iowa Speedway
Third clip : Barber (also occasionally listed as Birmingham in sim racing as there was a rFactor mod way back when that was popular)
rig tour 3.0???
I’m confused on why you prefer Indy over NASCAR when it comes to track variety. I would say NASCAR arguably has the most diverse schedule in all of Motorsports. By 2024, they will have street circuits, short tracks, intermediates, superspeedways, road courses and a dirt track. Indy is mostly RC’s, some street courses and only a few ovals.
Die hard indy and nascar fan. I love indy a little more tho idk y i just do. its a fun amazingly competitive series.
Because this isn't nor ever has been the case before very, very recently. NASCAR for most of my life has been 2 road races in Cup and that's it.
Meanwhile the days of IndyCar having an oval biased schedule even aren't *that* long ago, and the reasons for lack of ovals is more the fact people don't show up and the politics at hand. (case and point, Richmond just... vanishing during COVID times, never to be heard of again...)
Worth pointing out as well: IndyCar currently has a similar amount of ovals as NASCAR has road courses, while having a schedule that's got half as many races. Proportionally, one series is much, much more balanced even though most of us IndyCar fans are screaming for more ovals.
Not sure I'd argue the jump between Long Beach and IMS in an IndyCar isn't every bit as a world removed as going from Bristol Dirt to CoTA to Daytona.
Indycar is on pause for me. Mercedes W12 is taking up all my time now
Anybody having trouble getting Trading Paints to load all the paints in a timely manner/correctly? Either it takes 30 minutes for them all to download or 5+ won't load. Yes, I've got an ethernet cable
Yes, and some skins just don't load up at all at times.
@@TacticalCardboard frustrating af.
Interesting video. I was quite excited about AI coming to iRacing. But now that it's been here for a while I did a few races when it came out and a few more when cars that I liked became available. But after a race or two I've seen everything there is to see and it just felt completely pointless.
And how other game AI racing keeps Your interest high?
What track was that last one?
Barber
Seriously…if you’re looking for really good AI Iracing is already the best. In just two years.
They just need to get all their content out for AI.
Thats the problem, they sit on their hands and dont do it.
they went one meter ahead with the tire physics on the Indycars since 10 years or so.... still you cant do a huge Pato style powerslide and still catch it. Cause for some reason sim open wheel cars dont care what your front tires really do..... I thought maybe when dirt comes to iR the tarmac tire will improve... it did only little... now I hope when rain will arrive that the tarmac tire will again improve....see ya in 20 years later lol :D
Hmmm...
If only there was a way to actually buy the game rather than rent the ability to access the content you purchased.