Hurrem did set this last bit, but Mehidrivan's past actions set herself up. Mehidrivan never looked at long-term results, just what she could get immediately regardless of consequences.
Hürrem deserved more importance in the show. I get that the show it's 90%fictional,but she actually opened the path for her successors, and Sultanate of Women. The most prominent members of Sultanate of Women were: -Haseki Hürrem Sultan -Mihrimah Sultan -Valide Afife Nurbanu Sultan -Valide Safiye Sultan -Valide Handan Sultan -Valide Halime Sultan -Valide Mahpeyker Kösem Sultan -Valide Hatice Turhan Sultan -Valide Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan
@marius227 learn History please. Hurrem never sat on throne. Women at that era, maybe had influence at the king, but no one of them, had actually any authority to command a state and rule an empire. That's Sultan's job, the Queens could order servants, they could born Princes and to have mosques, but an empire never ruled by womens' tears.
Its rather illogical that Suleiman said he knew this would happen, but allowed Mahidevran to put the harem in severe debr, which would have affected the crown itself especially before a campaign.
Right? Like, alright, perhaps, at best, he placed Gülfem there to, unknowingly, monitor Mahidevran and keep her in check. But, if you were aware such a disaster could occur, wouldn't you implement further safeguards? This honestly could've been a realistic reason to bring Afife in ahead of schedule.
It is a pity that the writers did not leave Gulsah with Hurrem to the end like Fahriye. She had a chance to redeem herself and serve wisely. Nigar committed more wickedness, but she was always whitewashed.
Both MC shows have writers who have a chronic habit of completely wasting characters with a lot of potential. Cennet was basically Gulsah in a way if you think about it.
What I can't help but love about this is that, in the end, Hürrem was merely trying to unseat Mahidevran. That the position of the head of the harem could then be passed to her doesn't seem to have occurred to her. On the other hand, there's a reason why I cite this as one of Mahidevran's worst spirals as a character. It's also understandable that this would be her darkest hour as, not only has she failed under a major scandal, the alliances on which she relied upon are crumbling before her eyes.
Honestly I think had Suleyman put Gulfem in charge of the harem Hurrem would have just rolled with. Because until Ibrahim's execution Glfem is on of the few truly natural characters in the series.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges Agreed! I think, in the end, it's what she expected to happen after unseating Mahidevran and was prepared to be alright with it as, if anything, Gülfem might be influenced by Hatice, but not enough to be a true threat to Hürrem or her children.
@@CrimsonAngelWingesyes and no. She cares about the order of things and she hasn't agreed with the killing of children but she also helped plot against hurrem multiple times instead of trying to stop it. Even here she wouldn't have been as nice to hurrem had she done what mahidevran did.
Gulfem as the oldest concubine would be a logical choice. She got experience in managing and Hurrem would not have a problem with her unless... she would send a concubine to golden path and that would be her duty.
The difference between Mahi and hurrem like why would mahidevran bow to ibrahim once she bore a prince the dynamics changes he has to bow and top of that he even said her shut up lol once hurrem had princess ibhrahim always bowed to her as customs till the end even when they had arguments and hurrem always acknowledged him and funny part like valide sultan said mahidevran relies on other brains and hurrem uses her own even the enemies take her side and when mahi said would ibrahim allow u to rule like gurlll the difference again when hurrem replies no one asks his permission she had all the chances because she had the eldest son yet she wasn’t strong candidate 😭😭😭I guess this is why mahidevran was liked by valide because she’s easily controlled or ibrahim could easily manipulate her and that’s why mustafa was his fav his means to be vizier twice because hurrem wouldn’t allow ibrahim with his manipulation near her sons and she liked bali bey and others instead of him
Some of the best scenes were when Hurrem and Ibrahim were pitted against one another. There was always a margin of respect, like two great chess masters going at each other.
Bow to the most powerfull Sultana Hurrem "my live is this saray,I exist because of love(,love of the Magnificent Suleyman)"..So...Love is the most powerfull thing in the world,can change destiny,live..but is very very rare like this real story❤️Bow to you My Sultana 💖
Gulfen says she doesnt want to blamd anyone but like everyone else she has no problem placing blame on hurrem right away, shes one of those people who may not like a person getting bullied but they will keep silent because they dont like the victim of bullying but dont want to be called a bully.
Gulfem is a fair-weather friend, at best. She spent years plotting against Hurrem with the other sultanas and only befriended her when they were all gone.
It seems like Mahidervan had zero power. Zero influence. The only reason she existed was because of Mustafa. I think she was so so lonely and probably felt invisible and unheard. She had beauty but that fud not help her either. I think the intelligence was so essential but she did not have it. Hurram did. I wouldn't wish to be Mahidervan. Sad, lonely, unheard, un noticed, undesired. Like she never existed. Its like she has always been known as Mustafas morher.
You know something i love this episeode because like all bullies mahidevran does everything she can to hurt hurrem and is protected by everyone but the moment a victim like hurrem defeats them and gets revenge they then cry victim especially when no one wants to protect the bully like mahidevran anymore.
Here we go again; Mahidevran blaming Hurrem for her own mistakes. Will she ever be able to admit that she is wrong, omg Mahi you are the only one to blame.
It was a game for throne, irl this never happened, Hurrem and Gulfem were close and were good friends, Gulfem was helping Hurrem manage the harem. The show is not 100% true, so don't believe everything u see in the show
Is it only me who thinks Hürrem ploted the attack on Gulfem as Mahidevran was unaware of it. Also the slave girl who tried to strangle gulfen said Mahidevran's name so loudly .😆
But there's something the writers didn't pay attention to. There's no way Hurrem could have known that Mahidevran had said to Gulfem ,,are you threatening me?" since their conversation was private. Hurrem conveniently guessed it :-))
Mahidevil mocking asking hurrem"" now what..will u rule the harem""????? Why not?? Mahidevil a slave was given that respinsibility by suleiman..she failed miserably Hurrem is the legally married wife of suleiman Literally the Empress Mahidevil has the audacity to put put that mocking Q to hurrem
One thing I never understood why would hurrem keep gulśah when she knows gulśa tried to kill her and actually killed her friend, I know she wanted to threaten mahedevran but I think this is a mistake in the show to bring gulśah under hurrem as they have made hurrem's character very strong she never forgive people like gulśa this twist ruins hurrem's character
When all the comments by people were supporting hurrem, praising her, literally treating her as a hero, the reason for which I never understood, I went back through the series again, if she really was good and sincere. But nowhere I couldn't it. Only she backstabbed everyone and cheated, and was the most cruel fellow of all the series. She won by treachery and cheap tricks. Didn't get it why people admire it. Any how nurbanu exceeds her in treachery at the end
Hürrem is not a hero, but literally everyone in the Harem is more wicked than her. Mahidevran tried to have her poisoned while pregnant due to her jealousy. Valide tried to have her burned alive and did not have the guts to own up to it, even in private. Hatice used actual black magic on her even though Hürrem saved one of her children on birth and helped her out of a depression. Nigar tried to frame her as a murderer while Hürrem trusted her. And last but so not least: Mahidevran openly told her: *No death for you. At least not until you witness all of your children die*
@@jameshakai1662 I didn't ask anyone's opinion, nor I didn't reply to others comments. I posted my opinion as a generalised comment. I felt that no-one was as cruel as her as she even killed kids which no-one did in the series. It was my opinion not influenced by anyone. So those who reply to my comments pls mind your own opinions than others
@@jameshakai1662 pls maintain dignity. U should ask others opinion when responding to their comments of u don't know them or without their consent. I never commented on ur comment or opinion
The actress playing Hurrem is brilliant. She keeps attention riveted. The actor who plays suleman is also excellent
Agree
Meryem Uzerli is the best ❤
hurrem's actress is stealing the focus in each and every sec
I love Hurrem
Who need motivational speeches when we have hurrem's coronation scene
What Ibrahim tells Mahadevrin....is priceless. And of course...Mahadevrin does what she does best....cries as always when caught at one of her games.
He was like " you know what ? I think I picked the wronge side"😂
The character that was strangling Gulfem has me dying 😂😂 that little silly run as she ran away, omfg 😂😂😂😂
What I like the most is… seeing Hurrem and the children around the table! They looked so sweet!😍😍😍
One of the biggest victories of haseki hurrem sultana!!!
Pls what episode is this
@@jassapeace7293 63
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IN MY VIEW
This has always been one of my favorite episodes. Congratulations Hurrem!
Which episode is this
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64 @@munaam6978
Hurrem is the only haseko of ottoman and always think about her people. She is is kind but dangerous.she is smart and generous.
So true
The way the concubine runs is so funny 😂
Sumbul aga is so funny😂😂😂love his character
I never really noticed how pretty Gulfem was before watching this
Legendary moment of the series. Aleksandra from Poland, Haseki Hurrem Sultan, Solemnized Wife of Sultan Suleyman Khan, Ruler of Harem. :D
She is actually Ruthenian, so most likely she's from today's Ukraine.
Well you are both correct. Ruthenian, from today's Ukraine, by that time the village she was from was under polish rule@@MissSlovakia2
Hurrem did set this last bit, but Mehidrivan's past actions set herself up. Mehidrivan never looked at long-term results, just what she could get immediately regardless of consequences.
Hürrem deserved more importance in the show.
I get that the show it's 90%fictional,but she actually opened the path for her successors, and Sultanate of Women.
The most prominent members of Sultanate of Women were:
-Haseki Hürrem Sultan
-Mihrimah Sultan
-Valide Afife Nurbanu Sultan
-Valide Safiye Sultan
-Valide Handan Sultan
-Valide Halime Sultan
-Valide Mahpeyker Kösem Sultan
-Valide Hatice Turhan Sultan
-Valide Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan
She sat on the throne. What else you want?
@marius227 learn History please. Hurrem never sat on throne. Women at that era, maybe had influence at the king, but no one of them, had actually any authority to command a state and rule an empire. That's Sultan's job, the Queens could order servants, they could born Princes and to have mosques, but an empire never ruled by womens' tears.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844only Valide Kosem did that
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Actually hurrem did write letters to other rulers , and she opened way for other powerful sultanas like kosem sultan
@@Ariel-eu1zxWriting letters to other noble leaders is not the equivalent of sitting on the throne.
Its rather illogical that Suleiman said he knew this would happen, but allowed Mahidevran to put the harem in severe debr, which would have affected the crown itself especially before a campaign.
Right? Like, alright, perhaps, at best, he placed Gülfem there to, unknowingly, monitor Mahidevran and keep her in check. But, if you were aware such a disaster could occur, wouldn't you implement further safeguards? This honestly could've been a realistic reason to bring Afife in ahead of schedule.
@@Redluna32they wanted to bring Afife just for putting against hurrem😂
@@Redluna32 My headcanon is that Suleiman was simply lying that he expected it lmao.
@@Kmelody1279It would have been more interesting if Suleyman had brought Afifie Hutan to run the harem after Hurrem was burned.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges I just sometimes get so frustrated by the series but what can I do I love the character of hurrem🥹🥲
hurrem is forever showing up in the halway to see the walk of shame of mahidevran makes me laugh and the guy that plays sumbul cracks me up
It is a pity that the writers did not leave Gulsah with Hurrem to the end like Fahriye. She had a chance to redeem herself and serve wisely. Nigar committed more wickedness, but she was always whitewashed.
Both MC shows have writers who have a chronic habit of completely wasting characters with a lot of potential. Cennet was basically Gulsah in a way if you think about it.
What I can't help but love about this is that, in the end, Hürrem was merely trying to unseat Mahidevran. That the position of the head of the harem could then be passed to her doesn't seem to have occurred to her. On the other hand, there's a reason why I cite this as one of Mahidevran's worst spirals as a character. It's also understandable that this would be her darkest hour as, not only has she failed under a major scandal, the alliances on which she relied upon are crumbling before her eyes.
Honestly I think had Suleyman put Gulfem in charge of the harem Hurrem would have just rolled with. Because until Ibrahim's execution Glfem is on of the few truly natural characters in the series.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges Agreed! I think, in the end, it's what she expected to happen after unseating Mahidevran and was prepared to be alright with it as, if anything, Gülfem might be influenced by Hatice, but not enough to be a true threat to Hürrem or her children.
@@CrimsonAngelWingesyes and no. She cares about the order of things and she hasn't agreed with the killing of children but she also helped plot against hurrem multiple times instead of trying to stop it. Even here she wouldn't have been as nice to hurrem had she done what mahidevran did.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges😊
Gulfem as the oldest concubine would be a logical choice. She got experience in managing and Hurrem would not have a problem with her unless... she would send a concubine to golden path and that would be her duty.
Everything good in Hurrem's world begins with poetry from Suleimon.
Hurrem is one of the powerful women in ottomen empire.
The difference between Mahi and hurrem like why would mahidevran bow to ibrahim once she bore a prince the dynamics changes he has to bow and top of that he even said her shut up lol once hurrem had princess ibhrahim always bowed to her as customs till the end even when they had arguments and hurrem always acknowledged him and funny part like valide sultan said mahidevran relies on other brains and hurrem uses her own even the enemies take her side and when mahi said would ibrahim allow u to rule like gurlll the difference again when hurrem replies no one asks his permission she had all the chances because she had the eldest son yet she wasn’t strong candidate 😭😭😭I guess this is why mahidevran was liked by valide because she’s easily controlled or ibrahim could easily manipulate her and that’s why mustafa was his fav his means to be vizier twice because hurrem wouldn’t allow ibrahim with his manipulation near her sons and she liked bali bey and others instead of him
Some of the best scenes were when Hurrem and Ibrahim were pitted against one another. There was always a margin of respect, like two great chess masters going at each other.
Bow to the most powerfull Sultana Hurrem "my live is this saray,I exist because of love(,love of the Magnificent Suleyman)"..So...Love is the most powerfull thing in the world,can change destiny,live..but is very very rare like this real story❤️Bow to you My Sultana 💖
Who knew that what gulshah said to that maid about her majesty Queen Hurrem would be all true one day
I hated when Suleyman says poems to hurren then he's cheating left and right
Gulfen says she doesnt want to blamd anyone but like everyone else she has no problem placing blame on hurrem right away, shes one of those people who may not like a person getting bullied but they will keep silent because they dont like the victim of bullying but dont want to be called a bully.
Gulfem is a fair-weather friend, at best. She spent years plotting against Hurrem with the other sultanas and only befriended her when they were all gone.
The guards came quickly when called by Sumbul, yet they did not hear Gulfem being strangled.
Those guards are always conveniently absent or present ))
You get involved in a cat fight in the harem and besides both of them could've accused the guards to save their own skins...
Love her grace and strong character ❤️
It seems like Mahidervan had zero power. Zero influence. The only reason she existed was because of Mustafa. I think she was so so lonely and probably felt invisible and unheard. She had beauty but that fud not help her either. I think the intelligence was so essential but she did not have it. Hurram did. I wouldn't wish to be Mahidervan. Sad, lonely, unheard, un noticed, undesired. Like she never existed. Its like she has always been known as Mustafas morher.
You know something i love this episeode because like all bullies mahidevran does everything she can to hurt hurrem and is protected by everyone but the moment a victim like hurrem defeats them and gets revenge they then cry victim especially when no one wants to protect the bully like mahidevran anymore.
Which episode is this?
Here we go again; Mahidevran blaming Hurrem for her own mistakes. Will she ever be able to admit that she is wrong, omg Mahi you are the only one to blame.
Gulfem is different among them. But Hurrem attacked her and gave all the blame to other. Only to get rid of Mahidevran! A pure evil.
True
It was a game for throne, irl this never happened, Hurrem and Gulfem were close and were good friends, Gulfem was helping Hurrem manage the harem. The show is not 100% true, so don't believe everything u see in the show
It's just like a medieval beauty pageant 😅
What poetry from Suleiman❤
Brain and beauty = Hurrem
How I love you hurrem💖
And she ruled the world 😩💕💕
I love this episode ♥♥♥
From fish to dragon, as the future teller said in episode 46
Hurrem sultana defeated mahidevil again!!
Once again, where are all the guards
Gulfem is sooo beautiful!
Real life Game of Thrones. No need for fictional dragons though.... just be the dragon.
Gulfem is looking so pretty 😍
Is it only me who thinks Hürrem ploted the attack on Gulfem as Mahidevran was unaware of it. Also the slave girl who tried to strangle gulfen said Mahidevran's name so loudly .😆
Yeah, that's the point... you're brilliant :D
But there's something the writers didn't pay attention to. There's no way Hurrem could have known that Mahidevran had said to Gulfem ,,are you threatening me?" since their conversation was private. Hurrem conveniently guessed it :-))
You're so clever. omg 😂😂😂😂
Why Gulfem went from Sultana to hatun again after her children died?
Because the male child they give is the sole reason for them becoming a Sultana.
Gulfem is a natural beauty. They all are ❤
Mahidevil mocking asking hurrem"" now what..will u rule the harem""????? Why not?? Mahidevil a slave was given that respinsibility by suleiman..she failed miserably
Hurrem is the legally married wife of suleiman
Literally the Empress
Mahidevil has the audacity to put put that mocking Q to hurrem
And that’s the end of Mahidrevan!!
Love
Which episode guys
Episode 63
Hurrem sultan became haseki hurrem sultan🔥🔥 This is my favorite episode😍💓
Hurrem played a greate n exteme political move..
Mahidevran 😡
அழகு பேரரசி ஹுற்றம்
The one time Mahi is actually innocent lmao 😂
Really?? Who attacked Gulfem?
@@mrinalraut7547 Hurrem bribed one of the girls to make it seem like Mahidevran sent her to attack Gulfam because she threatened her.
All the people dont see the mistakes of hurrem they just say about mahidevran
It was traditional...no prince, no title
Ibrahim was so over it
One thing I never understood why would hurrem keep gulśah when she knows gulśa tried to kill her and actually killed her friend, I know she wanted to threaten mahedevran but I think this is a mistake in the show to bring gulśah under hurrem as they have made hurrem's character very strong she never forgive people like gulśa this twist ruins hurrem's character
Mahidevran ❤❤❤❤❤❤
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So cruel girl 😆
that's what we call politics
Hurrem is so Cunning and shrude
Then what about mahidevran🤣
When all the comments by people were supporting hurrem, praising her, literally treating her as a hero, the reason for which I never understood, I went back through the series again, if she really was good and sincere. But nowhere I couldn't it. Only she backstabbed everyone and cheated, and was the most cruel fellow of all the series. She won by treachery and cheap tricks. Didn't get it why people admire it. Any how nurbanu exceeds her in treachery at the end
Hürrem is not a hero, but literally everyone in the Harem is more wicked than her. Mahidevran tried to have her poisoned while pregnant due to her jealousy. Valide tried to have her burned alive and did not have the guts to own up to it, even in private. Hatice used actual black magic on her even though Hürrem saved one of her children on birth and helped her out of a depression. Nigar tried to frame her as a murderer while Hürrem trusted her. And last but so not least:
Mahidevran openly told her: *No death for you. At least not until you witness all of your children die*
@@jameshakai1662 I didn't ask anyone's opinion, nor I didn't reply to others comments. I posted my opinion as a generalised comment. I felt that no-one was as cruel as her as she even killed kids which no-one did in the series. It was my opinion not influenced by anyone. So those who reply to my comments pls mind your own opinions than others
@@divyasri8752 I do not require your asking to respond to your opinion with my own
@@jameshakai1662 pls maintain dignity. U should ask others opinion when responding to their comments of u don't know them or without their consent. I never commented on ur comment or opinion
@@divyasri8752 No you should not. The entire point of writing a comment on CZcams is that someone can respond to it