URETHANE SHOWDOWN! | Purple Hammer vs. Black Hammer 78D
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- čas přidán 3. 02. 2024
- As soon as Black Hammer 78D Urethane was announced, the #1 question I got was "How does it compare to the GOAT Purple?". Well, I'm here to show you and as always, back it up with SPECTO data!
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With the help of SPECTO data, it'll help tell the story about reaction shape, overall hook and continuation through the pins. Here are the SPECTO data points used and definition of each term:
Launch Speed - Speed measured off the hand.
Entry Speed - Speed measured at the pins. (What you'd see on your home center MPH screens)
Rev Rate - Revolutions Per Minute (RPM)
Launch Angle - The angle the ball traveled the first 10 feet.
Break Point Position - Board at which the ball was at its outermost position.
Total Hook - Total number of boards the ball crosses on the way to the pins.
Hook Power - Number of boards the ball hooked based on the True Breakpoint.
Entry Angle - The angle of the ball between 51 and 55 feet.
Impact Angle - The angle of the ball between 57 and 59.5 feet.
Pin Deck Exit - Ball position at the end of the pin deck.
Questions? Comments? Did you order one after seeing this video? Let me know! I read all the comments and respond to many!
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Great video as always, thanx Nick
The specto graph at 4:29 just sold the black pearl to me. How awesome is that!!!
Hi, NIck my son got me a purple hammer overseas solid 15lbs, it was drilled by a friend of his that has a pro shop. I love the Hammers, I bowled the old blue through out the eighties. He drilled this one 3'' high and 4'' right of my left finger pin up. Needless to say its a workout just keeping in the pins, from any angle, burns its energy up before getting to the pins and hits flat. I've bowled about 40 games with it form one side of the lanes and back and its not gotten any bettet. I believe its drilled to strong. My Hammer Axe I use for spares, which I recieved at the same time, I can bowl it as a strike ball easily and get still get my spares. learning to bowl again after a couple of severe accidents and years away from the sport, making progress. I really like the Urethane Hammers, when bowling leauges years ago it was my pin killer and great at it. I would like to fine another great Hammer like my Old Blue, with its results. What can I do? The guy at the Pro Shop he wants me to go with a STORM PHASEII, for a Hammer man its a slap in the face. I'm looking for length and power into the pins, your right hand style is similar to my old way of playing, I like the outside. Any help or dirrection would be greatly apperciated.. Thank you, jim
@@apostolic1Godbelieve it sounds like maybe your ball speed isn’t very high anymore? Urethane likes to read early and it comes out of the box very dull, so the first step to controlling it better would be to bring the surface up to a smoother finish. So if it’s 1000 grit, have the shop bring it up to 2000 and try again until you can get it down the lane. Repeat with higher if necessary.
I think the Still Legal shirt should be available in the purple hammer color. 😊 Awesome merch.
I put in the request! 👍🏻
@@brunsnick Yes!!
Purple has been added for both Urethane shirts!
Excellent video, Nick 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good stuff Nick!
Im so excited to get my black pearl ive watched this video so many times!! im hoping i'll have it drilled and throw it by the end of the month!!!
A Awesome Video Nick, Thxs
Coming from someone who started with the Faball Hammers, these two balls remind me of another pair of balls I've used: The Blue Hammer and the Blue Pearl Hammer. Purple would be the Blue, and Black Pearl would be the Blue Pearl. If the Blue was too much, I'd switch to the Blue Pearl and keep on going. Wash/rinse/repeat here with the Purple Pearl and Black Pearl. I was just telling my 14 year old son that there is nothing stopping anyone from having a urethane bag and a resin bag, with Urethane being a Widow Urethane (Pink or Purple), NU Blue (for the different shape), Purple Pearl, then Black Pearl. There's a complete 4-ball urethane (or near urethane) arsenal right there, from heaviest rolling to least.
that arsenal will get you run out of every league lol
@johndor1904 expecially on my team.
Nice comparison. Thank you.
With my ultra low rev, low ball speed Full Roller style I am thinking The Black Pearl may be a better match.
I do have a Purple Hammer but it can sometimes be too much ball for house shots. When there is not enough volume it either burns up or runs away from me if I try to get outside with it.
Also for House the lowest grit I ever run on Modern Urethane balls is 2000, anything lower and they just die out.
I'll be buying this one. The Purple is too strong for me most nights because the outsides are bone dry and it's exhausting trying to keep my speed up
Got my black pearl today. What an amazing ball. Absolutely luv it
I was experiencing over/under with all of my equipment on my house shot. About 1 month ago I tried a purple. Never turning back. It just simplified everything. I am torn between the black and NU. Leaning more towards black.
I have a purple hammer and really considering buying the black hammer
I had a purple and loved it, but I also felt like it hooked a bit more than my idea of a urethane should hook. When I saw the Nu Blue I still hoped they would try a compliant true urethane, especially a pearl urethane, so the Black Pearl 78D is going in my bag ASAP.
I love my purple hammer and unless they put a short pattern out for my league, I can’t see a need for using it. Maybe for spares.
I primarily bowl 9 pin now, USBC and PBA have no say in the equipment we use. Many still use balls with balance holes and the 2016-17 purple hammers.
It's not really going to help in that game, but it feels good to no longer have to worry about dumb bans.
I still use my Storm Spectre there! Eat that USBC! 🤣
I would like to see a comparison of your purple with normal weight and go up one weight with the black.
A lot of talk with the diff being much higher on the 16 compared to the 15 on the black pearl that it reads earlier and more pros are going up in weight.
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Wonderful video, when i 1st got my Purple hammer it took quite a few months to figure out if i liked it or not, could’ve been like anyone else and say this sucks no thank you but I’m stubborn as an ox on somethings and learning urethane for my game was one of em, now i love my urethane just don’t get alot of opportunity to throw it but when i do man do i love it and man do i love annoying people who don’t like it, especially in league play!🤣🤣
Awesome ball! Using urethane and the strategy is a very different mindset. Once you figure it out and it clicks, makes the game a lot easier.
How would d black hammer be after a ball like d idol optimum on short for d burn? Would any other ball be better at this situation?
AJ Rice followed up his 900 on Saturday by shotting 840 on Sunday also with the NU. I am trying to get my son to get one because I dont think he knows yet just how good that ball really is.
What are your opinions on the Red Pearl Asym Overseas hammer ball I was told it’s a weaker pink black widow and wondering what your thoughts about the ball is?
Don’t really know much about overseas stuff sorry.
Before watching the video, I would make the assumption that the black is better for playing straight. Purple fits more when you can try to add some shape. That’s not to say either ball can’t be used to add some shape or play straight, I just would imagine that those are each balls strengths.
That being said, if you CAN use the purple then you should. Both balls are good, but obviously the purple is the goat.
I was just gifted the black 78D. I’m excited for it but still unsure how I should use it. I mainly throw on house shots for league but do want to try some challenge patterns in other leagues. Currently have a BW3.0, Storm Absolute, and a IQ Ruby. Any thoughts on how or where I should use the new urethane? 15mph at the hand and around 340 revs
I plan on ordering 2 blacks by march 30th with my PBA discount. Then i have to decide if im ordering another blue for 6 pba legal balls in the bag or if i pick up a theorem..
Send me some bowling balls 😂 this sports expensive
Not getting it because I already ordered the Magenta Hammer before it was announced
Nick, Can we see a Nu blue/black hammer comparison? My NU blue seems less angular than my purple. Would the NU blue be a good ball to go to after the black?
May throw all 3 next for fun. 👍🏻
Heavy is the head that wears the crown 👑. 8 pin king lol. Purp 4 life 🐐
The Black Hammer 🔥
Interested in seeing the side by side difference, by someone who isn't a PBA pro throwing it on a PBA pattern. I love the motion of the Purple, but it's a bout 5 boards too strong to use on the THS. Hoping to see at least a decent step down from the Purple.
I'll do that if somebody wants to send me a Black Hammer! I'm definitely not a pro.
1 question / im learning the yoyo relese in bowling and i wanna ask do u keep ur fingers behind the ball during the release or do u go up the side as u uncup ur wrist ? i feel like u lose revs if u just hit down on the ball but i want to know so i know im learning it right and not wrong ? thanks for reading
Yes, fingers need to rotate around the side to create axis rotation and backend hook. 👍🏻
alright thanks for the help and just wanna say i enjoy ur videos / always fun to watch. @@brunsnick
Nick, I am currently using an old Columbia Black U Dot occasionally. Will the New Blk Hammer hook a lot more that the old U-dot?
Maybe a little more yes but it should be pretty controllable.
Thank you Sir@@brunsnick
I bought the purple hammer 2 weeks ago and still haven't figured out how to throw it. I'm a lefty and I love to play the track around the 2rd arrow right up 10. I'm not a big Rev rate and average between 15 to 16 mph so far it either hooks to much or not enough. Any advise?
Slow your speed down a bit when playing in the oil. It will hook. If you try to play too much of the friction it will over hook unless you have a lot of speed.
It’s important to practice with them to break in the cover, always wipe the oil off between shots and play as close to the friction as your speed/revs will allow.
How does the true urethanes fair against the nu blue? How should urethane be drilled?
They’re a bit earlier and smoother. I drilled all mine the same and they all a small bit different from one another.
Sorry I’m a little confused so is the old green dot purple hammer still legal or do I have to buy the new version of the purple hammer?
The only green dots that are not allowed by USBC are ones that have a serial number starting in the number 6 or 7.
@@brunsnickthank you!!
Im glad alot of people like urethane balls but they arent for me. I have one but im not consistent enough to constantly carry all 10
I feel you. I had a purple urethane for awhile but didn’t fully understand how to get the most out of it. I dedicated some practice and have come to find out that since I put decent speed and revs on the ball, it gives me a very smooth, yet heavy rolling reaction and is now one of the most reliable balls I own. But just like with my other low flaring balls, I have to be aggressive AND accurate. Lower flaring balls are now my current favorites (teal rhinos pro, envy tour, purple hammer) heck I would buy a NU blue if I didn’t think it’d be too much overlap (which I do). I still might buy one though because I have a problem (lol)
@@Phillip_Viera idk. For the majority of my bowling I like a reactive ball that goes through the pins. There are a ton of balls and if you get stuff that you understand it'll hit perfect. I don't bowl in pba events or tournaments often. I bowl league much more so urethane is just handicapping yourself most of the time.
Nick--for us non-pros, what are your thoughts about starting with Purple and then changing to Black when Purple begins checking up and becomes too early? If these two are a viable "1-2 punch", would you still recommend taking the surface on the Black down to 360 or lower, or would you only do so if you are using it to replace the Purple, but would leave it at 500 box if using both? Thank you
Sure they can be a 1-2 punch when Purple starts to read too early. Can stay in the same spot and pick back up with Black. Leave surfaces alone unless you’re replacing Purple. (Don’t know why you would though) this a less aggressive ball about 4 boards.
@@brunsnick Thank you..I'm not replacing Purple, but am considering an arsenal of Purple, Black and NU. What are your thoughts about that?
Could be great for playing straighter all night. 👍🏻 adjust surfaces as needed.
I use a Ebonite Gyro Blue Sanded that I bought in 1999. I'm around a 200avg with it. But I'd like to buy a new ball. Would either of these balls be comparable? Black or Purple?
Black would likely be the closest. Purple would be stronger.
@@brunsnick Perfect. I just placed an order (pre-order) for the Black. Thank you!
@@defbear awesome!!
Where can I get one of those shirts in Australia?
Hey sorry! They only ship to US and Canada.
How does this compare to the nu?
It’s smoother. Less hook.
Why the long wait until March for release?
Had to get it announced for PBA Tour season in January. Now need to ramp up production for public.
Urethane balls are like irons in golf. When you want to go straight and be accurate, you don't want to use your driver (big hook ball).
The PBA banned the Pitch Black and Purple Hammer, which would be like banning a 2 Hybrid club or 3-iron in golf, so that you're forced to used either a driver or a 4-iron.
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Your own company executives sat in a meeting with about 55 BowlersMart PSO’s back in summer 2022 and KT stated the exact opposite of what your shirt says, just so you know, as does the studies done by the pba on older serial number urethanes from both Storm and hammer that had been used in competition over multiple tour seasons… hence why the Brunswick execs were asking for anyone in the group if they had 6 or 7 purple hammers they could study. The urethane balls also get softer as they’re exposed to the oil on the lane, something else they were looking to study further, this all according to BG, KT and TA. You know whose initials those are lol
Produced softer vs. Getting softer over time two different things. That’s why 6 and 7’s are non conforming.
I thought it was banned on tour so y can they use it at the us open
Purple isn’t allowed on PBA Tour. Black is. US Open is a USBC event so everything goes.
@@brunsnick interesting I honestly didn’t know that
Should do a comparison with the pink widow
It’s discontinued now unfortunately.
@brunsnick I know it sucks! Luckily Amazon still has some. I just got a new one in yesterday.
How is that ball drilled???? Crooked finger holes?
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Why did ball manufacturers wait until the pba rule change before they started making harder urethane balls again? I'll be honest this fact is sort of making me a little cringy when I hear the sales pitch. Don't get me wrong I'm gonna buy one, but I am going to feel like a sucker when I do.
Because it wasn’t necessary really. The Purple Hammer is the GOAT. No need to make another until the rule change.
Balls like the purple hammer perform a bit better, they didn't change the because as Nick said it wasn't needed but it's still USBC legal so they also wanted that for ths league players.
BrunsNick, I know you've probably explained too many times why urethane does not get softer. Is there a particular video out there where you explain what the people who believe they do get softer are coming from and you explain why this is B.S.?
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@@brunsnick and now I'm watching your podcast where you and Phil are talking about footprint testing from 2 mo ago
In my league the purple really is a benefit..can see adding the black
Did you actually say that Urethane does not get softer? Even the USBC study said that it got softer, they just said it did not have a "signifivant" effect!
Oil and contaminants make the urethane ball “read” softer, but a thorough cleaning with IPA99 and a light resurface is all they need to do to make a durometer read correctly. Lane oil is a lubricant, not a solvent. If rolling a ball once magically makes it softer, then that is truly a marvel of science.
In the usbc study, they stated that it was lane oil trapped in the shell causing a larger footprint. Of course there’s no performance difference because the ball has not changed one bit.
@@brunsnick Yet the misleading statements and contempt for those of us that use urethane continue. My league gives our female bowlers nothing but grief, but they can't afford to replace their hammer purples that were gifted to them. I am irritated enough with the tournament prima donnas that I will now try to use my pink for at least two games out of three on our league. The complainers still shot above their average, but with my 190 average I went over 620 and they were mad..
@@kevinspradlin6288 tell them to learn how to adjust. #StillLegal
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I have a question. What is that little pin hole above the ring finger on your balls?
Vent hole for the ring finger
@@brunsnick I had a feeling that's what it was for. Thanks for the reply.
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