DNR: Stay Away From Low-Head Dams At Any Cost

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2017
  • Full Story: indianapublicmedia.org/news/dn... Four people have died this summer in Indiana after being caught in low head dams and more than a dozen have been rescued. Coming up why the dams are so dangerous and what officials are saying you should do to keep yourself safe.
    Those stories plus the latest news headlines from across the state right now on Indiana Newsdesk.
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Komentáře • 56

  • @nomadnickbikehobo9598
    @nomadnickbikehobo9598 Před 2 lety +6

    Guy says "where should we put the signs? Upstream?" Yes captain obvious, upstream so people can avoid the dam

    • @keystonedaytrip238
      @keystonedaytrip238 Před 2 lety +1

      IKR 🙄

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Actually, both up and downstream is a good idea, because, believe it or not there have been many rescues initiated because dense people have deliberately swam into them from the downstream side, because they think it "looks like a cool place to swim". Generally, alcohol is involved. No big surprise there.

    • @daddydick559
      @daddydick559 Před 9 měsíci

      I agree with you, but people can also come from the lower section towards the boil and still get sucked in if they come too close. A double sided sign should do great.

  • @GreatNorthWeb
    @GreatNorthWeb Před 3 lety +3

    you cannot hear those instructions when you are thrashing about the water

  • @Tigerbythetoe
    @Tigerbythetoe Před 3 lety +5

    Could they fill the bottom where the vortex is with rocks or boulders? That could stop or severely reduce the vortex and still allow for flow. But any solution would be costly In sure, I think that it’s worth it!

  • @panzerdivizzion
    @panzerdivizzion Před rokem +2

    Love her smile as she segways into the tragic death story.

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

    • @jaxflfreebird
      @jaxflfreebird Před rokem

      @@k9er233 "The bubble headed bleach blonde, comes on at 5. She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye."

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      @@jaxflfreebird Great song. Really says it all about these type of "reporters", doesn't it?

    • @number4cat1
      @number4cat1 Před 10 měsíci +1

      A Segway is a computerized scooter. The verb is "segue". - School Marm.

    • @panzerdivizzion
      @panzerdivizzion Před 10 měsíci

      @@number4cat1 tomato/tomato. In other news, this guy is an English professor. Or is it a English professor? Like my Segway?

  • @lauriefrisch865
    @lauriefrisch865 Před 3 lety +9

    Sign should be. Drowning machine with arrows going around in a counter clock ways circle with a person in the middle of the circle. At the bottom should just be one word. DEATH

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Very good idea. Most people have no idea how dangerous these are because they can appear to be so benign.

  • @kdolo100
    @kdolo100 Před rokem +2

    Please... start removing them!

  • @MotopGT
    @MotopGT Před 5 lety +16

    Why this man smile when he say they lost lives. :10

    • @anul6801
      @anul6801 Před 4 lety +1

      He isnt

    • @jmr1068204
      @jmr1068204 Před 3 lety +1

      Because he's a news reporter and is supposed to be polite, kind and respectable at all times in front of millions of people. Plus the people are idiots and died from stupidity.

    • @judahtribe7
      @judahtribe7 Před 3 lety

      What about her she was smiling too

    • @moongloomable
      @moongloomable Před 3 lety +1

      Those two were boning before the broadcast for sure. Nobody is that happy about drownings.

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

  • @bob15479
    @bob15479 Před 5 lety +14

    why is this dude smiling

    • @nikkinicole5588
      @nikkinicole5588 Před 2 lety +3

      Right.

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

  • @greenleavesofsummer9673
    @greenleavesofsummer9673 Před 2 lety +5

    WHEN will states require putting covers of some sort or caging over these dams so large objects will float down instead of getting trapped by undertow!!!!! As long as caging is small enough not to get objects stuck. An engineer could figure out details.

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 Před 2 lety +3

    The river I boat on the Ct. River has a very thick steel cable and large barrels so it would be nearly impossible to go over said dam. Why do they not put them up? This is complete nonsense. Just cheaping out. Yes I know people should know better but clearly they do not. If you build a dam its now on you, just like the power companies on the Ct River will portage you around their dams. It really not that hard.

  • @chrisbinckes2732
    @chrisbinckes2732 Před 3 lety +2

    the bryan ferry lyric.... 'youre well educated with no commonsense' applies to most 'flooded river' enthiusiasts.... meself included....! i nearly croaked surfing rapids with a hand fin on the north johnstone river far north queensland oz.... smooth water is so powerful.... highly necessary information upload above thanks

  • @keystonedaytrip238
    @keystonedaytrip238 Před 2 lety +2

    They need to destroy these killing machines

  • @LoveSimsYT
    @LoveSimsYT Před rokem +2

    Is it just me or is it not creepy when the male reporter who was initially straight-faced to begin with starts smirkin/smiling as he says, "but many lost their lives" ? I notice reporters do this often and while I know they don't find it amusing, it just doesn't LOOK good. Totally freaked me out

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem +1

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

    • @LoveSimsYT
      @LoveSimsYT Před rokem

      @@k9er233 can't listen right now, but I did take a moment to skim the lyrics and you were not lying! My goodness. I thought I was the only one who noticed these things. Thanks for sharing..

  • @davidpainter6940
    @davidpainter6940 Před 3 lety +5

    Dive down it'll kick you out down stream. Always port any dam .

    • @crocodile1313
      @crocodile1313 Před 2 lety +1

      That works if the victim did not panic and was able to summon the strength to do what feels completely unnatural at the time, which is "dive down."

    • @jmr1068204
      @jmr1068204 Před rokem

      Provided that in diving down it doesn't force you into the dam and smack your head somewhere under the water.

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 Před 8 měsíci

    you need to audit your script. you said the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY not the DNR. LOL
    you can not get a throw bag to someone in this situation as they will be stuck into the churn.
    I have gotten out of one of these dams. But I got to the bottome and then swam out under water. But to think this way is very counter intuative.

  • @100MileRonin
    @100MileRonin Před 3 lety +6

    How professional, smirk while talking about lose of life…classy news outfit you guys got there

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

  • @lyndellemodeste2439
    @lyndellemodeste2439 Před 2 lety

    Stay away fom the dam. Stay out of the water.

  • @jimkhana007
    @jimkhana007 Před 2 lety +1

    Why is the reporter holding back a smirk whilst reporting on something so dangerous?, 🤷‍♂️

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Před rokem

      Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.

  • @walexander8378
    @walexander8378 Před 3 lety +3

    Why not just put a fence up?

    • @addanametocontinue
      @addanametocontinue Před 3 lety +1

      Fence the entire length of the river? Unless you fence off the entire length of the river, there's little purpose to having any fence, since people enter the river from any point. Cities are starting to address these low head dams to make them less dangerous. There are so many, though, and it costs money to have this done. It'll be years...

    • @94SexyStang
      @94SexyStang Před 3 lety +4

      because the fence will get knocked Down when there's flooding, as it drags trees and debri down stream.

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 Před 2 lety

    It's really simple. Instead of swimming up, swim down to the bottom, then downstream away from the dam.
    The problem is that the water on the surface is flowing upstream holding you there right under the dam pushing you under. A life vest won't save you. You'll be drowned anyway.
    Just swim to the bottom, and then away. Come back to the surface far away from the dam where the currents are back to normal.

    • @alexanderthewise1352
      @alexanderthewise1352 Před 2 lety +2

      Easier said then done. That's generally a way out, but you're still dealing with being caught in the washing machine with the other logs and things you'll be aggressively banged against. Removing your life jacket will amplify that. Next you have to find your way through the currents to the bottom in a situation where your riding a deadly water merigoround. Provided you're an exceptionally strong swimmer and you have your bearings you now have to catch that lower current, which is again easier said than done and your window to do so depends on how much water is flowing over.
      As a point to how difficult all that actually is, when trained rescuers get caught in the death trap, most keep their life jackets on, choosing to maintain what control they can in the cycle and push out with the life jacket on or wait for more rescuers. These are the trained rescuers, not drink Joe fishing on the beach and attempting an ad hoc rescue. They know the odds of that tactic and they're not good.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 Před 2 lety

      @@alexanderthewise1352, “Easier said then done”
      It’s what I did when I got trapped in one when I was a kid. I immediately figured out what was happening, and instead of fighting the current, I went with it.

    • @alexanderthewise1352
      @alexanderthewise1352 Před 2 lety +4

      @@terjeoseberg990 I suspect the current flow wasn't fast enough to form the death trap.
      No offense, but there are professional rescue teams that have lost lives, even in training exercises. If it were as simple as that, this would not be the case and certainly the cases of flow where this event happens are going to spin anyone.
      There's a video about the different flows over dam structures by an engineer. The problem with the death trap is it's hard to distinguish when it's happening in a lot of cases. Part of the categorization is the extreme difficulty of rejection from the stream.
      The best bet is to avoid the situation altogether.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 Před 2 lety

      @@alexanderthewise1352, It was a 3’ tall waterfall.

    • @alexanderthewise1352
      @alexanderthewise1352 Před 2 lety +3

      @@terjeoseberg990 Gotcha. The height from which the water is flowing is less impactful than the actual flow rate over the dam. And a recripal current is a feature of flow over a dam, not necessarily the death trap. In fact, none of the B footage here shows an obvious death trap.
      Practical engineering does a video on this that's good, but I dont think it outlines the actual classifications. There is a video that does. Height of fall though, not the primary factor.