Whenever Sal sang to Mallory I had to think of the quote/ meme "If he writes her a sonnet, he loves her. If he writes her a hundred sonnets, he loves sonnets".
Shake couldn’t fetishize Deepti the way he did with blondes. His self hatred towards his culture was so evident. When Deepti turned him down at the alter I screamed! I was so proud of her.
Just came here to tell everyone that when Shake said “I got Nobu reservations” my fiancé said “that’s exactly what you got… no boo” and I’m still laughing about it
Facts! he shifted blame so quickly, "well if your mad, I think it's weird your mad" 🤢🤮 I'm sorry you're not going to make me apologize when YOU fucked up!
There were so many red flags with Shayne. It was SO clear to me that this man has emotional regulation/aggression/anger issues that he needs to work though. It was demonstrated over and over again and I was kind of shocked that this wasn’t brought up by a single person at the reunion, not even by Natalie. Like, the way he flipped out at Natalie for being upset that he mistook her for Shaina. She had a right to be a little upset! And the way he was SO livid on the bachelor party night that he didn’t hit the ball once and was throwing the bat in anger and screaming. The way he was acting at the reunion, I could go on. When Natalie said no to him at the altar because she said that she felt scared around him says A LOT.
@@caitlin8274 I agree and as much as I want the other cast to call Shayne out, I feel that they didn’t b/c they were aware that he got issue and might not be able to handle the negative pressure and might do something bad to himself. We all saw how Shayne handle that event in the pod with Natalie. He took himself through a hella emotional ride without Natalie saying anything. Now imagine if he was pressure at the reunion.
@@bornrich9264 I also think that’s probably the reason nobody said anything at the reunion. He was already freaking out and started acting really weird when he was asked if he and Shaina had seen each other outside of the show. Shaina said they were “only friends” so why was he be acting like that? I think it was understood among everyone that this guy is just too unstable to handle the truth
Shake trying to play off her rejecting him as like “I’m happy that she got to reject me because I was totally going to reject her” was such baby behavior
Exactly! He's frustrating and disturbing to watch. He came off as very disingenuous, pretending to not care he got dumped. Yeah right! We saw right through him and so did Deep.
Dude she tried to keep the ring when the show (as stated in the contract) asked for it back. She tried to STEAL a diamond ring from them! They had to threaten to sue her to get it back. She’s got issues.
@@theIaurenshow she tried to keep her engagement ring and rip off the billion dollar corporation that misleads the audience and the cast members with convoluted story beats that could easily cause confusion? Yeah she must be the awful one not at all the show or the corp that runs it.
@@theIaurenshow she just answered a Q&A on her Instagram where she said the producers actually let all the women keep their rings and she showed her ring, with the date February 28, 2022 on her computer to prove when she had it. Don't spread misinformation to make people look bad dude, check your sources.
I really just adored how literally everyone could not STAND Shake in the reunion. I have never seen so many people so done with one person and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
i don’t like shake but most of the stuff he was saying was true. the show is called love is blind, not marriage is blind. not everyone needs to get married on the show. and it’s obvious that some people on the show feel pressured to continue despite not having a good relationship with their partner
Can we talk about how Shaina’s religion was only an issue with Kyle? There is absolutely nothing on the show about her even bringing up her beliefs with Shayne (unlike her need to bring up how sexually active she is-which, good for you, but highly inconsistent) and the idea that she would ever legitimately think Shayne would be a spiritual leader is so mind-bogglingly ridiculous, I can’t stand it. She donned her religion as plot armor and it was incredibly manipulative and disingenuous. I have no doubt that she has swooped in to date Shayne irl. On another note-did anyone else throw up a little when Shake told Deepti when he first met her in person that he wanted to put a baby in her? What a gross way to describe it. 🤮
Good observation! She only brought up the religion thing with Kyle. Shayne doesn’t seem religious! Plus you’re right, she was leading a lot with sex meanwhile claiming she’s super religious
That was an issue that my friend & I spoke about while we were watching it. Shaina could’ve cared less about religion when it came to Shayne, but it was an issue with Kyle? I call BS. It really can’t be that big of an issue if she wasn’t taking that energy across the board with each person she had any kind of interest in. I did not like her at all on the show.
that's literally what i was thinking the whole time!! like do what you want but just be honest and say you wanted someone else/weren't attracted to kyle... it was so disingenuous to say it's because of religion while also admitting you've had premarital sex. there's nothing WRONG with that, but if you say you're a woman of faith, why also make it known that you're an active sinner??
I think that’s the discrepancy between Shake’s initial reaction to Deepti (enthusiastic attraction) and his later lack of attraction is because when he first saw her, he was just incredibly relieved that she wasn’t plus sized. So what we’re seeing is relief and later his honest feelings. He is literally so gross. He just wants a pretty doll with personalized design specs he can play with-he’s not interested in an actual person with thoughts and feelings.
I noticed he was super into her until Mexico when she walked out in her bikini, the facial expressions he was making you can’t miss them, and the rumor is that shake was saying a lot of really mean things about Deepti’s loose skin, tbh I don’t think not finding a person attractive means you care about the wrong things, but it’s certainly the way he handled things terribly and spoke so ill of her that makes him such a jerk, he could have kindly said he wasn’t attracted to her and many of us could relate because we’ve all met great people that we just weren’t attracted to, but again he was very immature about it, worse than immature actually
@@avas132 exactly! and i’m so over ppl fighting for this man to defend him with their lives. nobody cares that he isn’t attracted to her, that can’t be helped. it’s the way he was talking ab her body and judging her. it’s normal to have some loose skin if u lose weight. if he hates it that much he should pay to get it removed💀
The fact that Shayne even had one girl interested in him is completely mind boggling to me, let alone two. 😭 I won’t stick any labels on him, but he seems like someone who’d be incredibly toxic and egotistical in a relationship. I’m scared for Natalie tbh.
It made me so emotional when Natalie said she knew it wasn’t right with Shane because he didn’t make her feel warm and safe like her dad does. As someone who doesn’t have a close relationship with my own dad, it put into perspective how important a positive male presence is especially in a woman’s life. I’ve made choices with men where I didn’t know any better because I didn’t have a positive male figure or relationship to compare them to.
Me too :( the men in my life have never made me feel safe or warm, so I’ve never really dated. I don’t trust men. Natalie’s really lucky to have such a loving dad
It's also normal and common to end up with someone who is like your parents (if you have a good relationship with your parents, of course). I tell my bf how he's a lot like my dad when it comes to personality and interests
They way he tried to turn it around on her was terrible. Dude you said you wish you never met her and she was the worst thing to happen to you. Of course she’ll marry you
There were so many red flags with Shayne. It was SO clear to me that this man has emotional regulation/aggression/anger issues that he needs to work though. It was demonstrated over and over again and I was kind of shocked that this wasn’t brought up by a single person at the reunion, not even by Natalie. Like, the way he flipped out at Natalie for being upset that he mistook her for Shaina. She had a right to be a little upset given the context! And the way he was SO livid on the night of the bachelor party that he didn’t hit the ball once and was throwing the bat in anger and screaming then goes home and starts a fight with Natalie because she asked if perhaps he had too much to drink?? The way he was acting at the reunion, I could go on. When Natalie said no to him at the altar because she said that she felt scared around him says A LOT.
Yeah honestly I truly believe him not being able to hit the ball was the catalyst for all those events happening, and sad as it is that Natalie had to be at the receiving end of his anger, I think it was good that it came out right in time.
He reminded me a lot of someone I know that has undiagnosed ADHD. The emotional outbursts and dysregulation, the need for compliments/ego boosts, the constant attention diversion (squirrel!), etc..
As an Indian woman, witnessing another Indian girl who obsesses repeatedly about having only been with white people is not amazing. I wish she didn't do that. That aside, i thought she was sweet
Shayne absolutely scared me this whole season, like when he freaked out over the baseball thing I was legitimately scared for Natalie’s physical well-being
I think he just might be on the spectrum? Im not sure why no one else isn't picking up on this. I didn't get any indication he was dangerous my goodness. Not saying he's perfect but lets have some empathy my friends
Yes, it's very clear that, at least when he drinks, he can be very aggressive with little impulse control. That could turn out to be dangerous for Natalie if it went unaddressed. Especially after what happened in the last few episodes with their "fight". Really scary behavior from him.
Shake 100% knew Deeps was out of his league. The fact that he was so attracted to her when they first saw each other, but ran around telling anyone who would listen that he wasn’t attractive.. I think he was trying to convince people that if they didn’t work out it was because of her. Even after she left him, talking about going to Nobu showed his insecurity.
YES!!! His low self-esteem issues were on full display throughout the show. I believe he knew it would be him that failed to live up to the performance so he went out of his way to avoid it. He told everyone (including multiple women) hoping it would get back to Deeps & she'd want to be done with him. When that didn't happen, he figured he'd go along with the wedding assuming Deeps would never say no to HIM bc with their shared cultural background they both would've made it work. His face when she says no & how he goes about trying to be normal with the guests afterwards was so cringe. Like you KNOW he cried a lot afterwards
I think last season they covered up to like 2k for the dresses but I’m SO happy they had traditional Indian dresses for Deepti, they were stunning and she made sure she looked GOOD when she chose herself! Like my jaw dropped but I was soooooo happy she didn’t marry him, Shake was nauseating 🤢
I thought it was so amazing that Sal spoke to Mallory’s family. No other man had any consideration for the others family or their own ego I loved that moment, it felt so genuine!!
@@bluejasmne definitely I agree. It's hard to explain though, when you're gay you pick up on alot of signs because you yourself have used them in the past to come across as straight-acting. His roommate is in love with him as well.
And the sad part is, there are many guys who would be SO much better to her!! Korean guys even who could talk to her family and understand her culture! She could do so much better!!!
Shake’s mom is such an Indian mom which I love like she just went “it’s your fault and you should do better” that’s such an Indian/Asian mom thing to do and was genuinely so authentic. I was literally like y’all are awesome how is he such a douche
I love that other cultures have that community. I felt so bad for Deepti but she really did fit in so well with his family. Americans don't have that, they're suspicious and hate everyone 😅
@@athena6832 honey, let me tell you indians are the same. I could write pages about the abuse that inlaws will do to the woman. And they always side with the son, even when he's wrong, even her parents will. Shake's mom is amazing because she sounds like a woman that broke some toxic family cycles.
the fact that shake said multiple times he felt like he was with his aunt was wild to me. Also the triangle of Natalie, shania, and Shane is basically what happens in s1 with one of the other couples but ends differently. It was bad though that shania blew up at Shane and told him that his relationship with Natalie was a joke just bc she knew she didn’t wanna be with Kyle. Also I was so not expecting nick to say yes to Danielle. Like he looked miserable. Idk if it was just cause he was sweating but I didn’t think he would say I do.
It makes sense to me since Shake's whole reason for wanting Deep was selfish. All his compliments were were how she'd be so good for him. Never did he mention what he'd be giving her in return or how he was a benefit to her life and well being.
@@seroquelz Yes! He only talked about how they connected culturally and how she would be a good fit in his life. He never once mentioned all of her great qualities. Also, it’s one thing to not be attracted to someone, but it’s another to go behind their back and talk about unappealing they are to you. Like wow.
I feel like Nick and Danielle are like already separated and just waiting to officially divorce in enough time that the producers don’t get mad and they’ can save some face regarding this entire situation
Shake was so immature and insecure. Also no offence to DJs but if you’re in a dating show and a guy is a DJ, whether full time or on the side, RUN. It’s like whenever a DJ is on a dating show they’re either super insecure, only there for publicity, or both. Also I feel like I’m taking crazy pills but how was Shane of all people the center of a love triangle??. His personality is atrocious and when I first saw him appear on camera I thought “he has a face for radio” and then he talked and I thought “he doesn’t have a voice for radio tho” I truly hope Shaina was only pursuing him for clout because if not she’s got even bigger issues than not believing evolution
Apparently on season one 7 couples got engaged but only 6 were chosen to "feature" and season two, 8 got engaged and once again 6 were chosen to follow along with. Some of my thoughts: 1. Natalie deserves better. 2. Thank God Trisha wasn't shown after Ep. 1 - what an embarrassment to the social media industry. 3. Deeps is a queen and so is Shake's mom for being so supportive of Deeps! 4. The Shaina / Shayne / Natalie thing was a very odd Jessica repeat... 5. I hope Danielle can get some good therapy if she doesn't already, because she deserves to feel better and more secure/confident in herself. This show is the most addictive guilty pleasure show and I can't wait for season 3 but honestly, I also just can't help but think of the mental health of everyone involved... it's such an incredibly intense situation and it seems many of them go on the show during a time of "need" for one reason or another (i.e. recent family death, recent life trauma, etc.) and I do worry about the state of mind they may be in or how this may damage their wellbeing.
It was actually 8 couples getting engaged each season but they only follow the 6 that have more entertainment (aka drama) potential. I agree it would be amazing if they had therapy/some sort of debriefing and processing care. In actual scientific experiments involving humans this is something that is required, at least at academic institutions in my experience. I had to do a whole lengthy application process (IRB) to even do my project and could only start once it was approved.
omg hi molly !! i agree w all of your takes. i feel bad supporting a show that feels exploitative of peoples mental health like this but i keep coming back to it lol
Thank you for this info! I feel like one of the larger ladies was included in one of the events like the BBQ or something?....I wonder if she got engaged and they didn't focus on her?? That would b shitty
Didn't expect to see you here! I totally agree with your points, especially the mental health focus. Most people, but especially those who get together so quickly need to learn how to work together as well as how to fulfill themselves healthfully while in relationships. Sometimes it comes naturally, but often counseling can help. Also, I love Shake's mom so much. She loves her son but doesn't want him to hurt anyone and tells him that. Love her.
One of the most awkward moments for me was Kyle being interviewed or doing a confessional thing or whatever it's called after Shaina leaves Mexico. She left his ass in Mexico without a word & it shows him talking about how she needs to work on her communication skills if their marriage is gonna work. Like come on man, she doesn't want to be with you. It was just awkward to watch for me.
That’s why I didn’t feel bad for him. Shaina was telling him straight up that she didn’t want marriage with him - in words AND actions - but he kept pushing.
@@jessicawilliams3849 i mean thats fair but we also cant forget that she literally said yes to the proposal, and kept making excuses after…he was probably confused as to why she would do that if she really truly didnt want to be with him
At 43:26 the nuttier part for me about Kyle and Shaina is he said he's been vegetarian for years and HE ATE MEAT FOR HER... and she STILL snuck out of Mexico in the middle of the night in a bathrobe 😭😭
Someone on Twitter said something like the show had to be created so Lauren and Cameron could meet but it was all downhill from there, and I wholeheartedly agree 😭
Honestly I prefered this season. Season 1 was super wholesome but it lacked drama (which is the main reason I personally watch reality TV 😅) and this season is filled with it. I would've liked to see at least one good wholesome couple like Lauren/Cameron though.
Season 1 reminds me of the beginning seasons of 90day fiance .... Where it was literally legit people getting married... Then after a certain point it was just about people looking for attention.i feel this season of LIB2 many of them were looking for attention.
one thing i noticed for sal and mal is that they’re always saying “i DO love you” not just “i love you.” like it sounds like they’re trying to convince each other (and themselves) that this is love and that they have strong romantic feelings, when they really don’t.
I feel like this show wouldn’t be as jarring and hectic if the end stipulation WASN’T marriage 💀 I was talking with my friend about if we would do it or not and I said I would do it if the end goal wasn’t marriage. Like maybe they should get an apartment together towards the end of the extended process. Like get to know each other in the pods, ask them to date them exclusively, go on their first trip together (because traveling tells you so much about a person), continue the process for like four months, and then instead of the wedding, it’s an engagement party if they say yes. I feel like that makes far more sense than a whole legal marriage 💀
@@ChasingTheChaseCrew Idk about friends with benefits lol but if they’re looking to build a substantial connection, forcing them into one in a week doesn’t seem conducive.
A lot of people are like "I'm scared of Shayne, he could get physical", and I just wanted to say that gasligthing is psychological abuse. Abuse is abuse. SHAYNE IS AN ABUSER.
I think shayne has something (diagnosed or not) he doesnt seem to have any emotional control and he gets really frustrated when people irritate him and ther stimuli as well.
@@k.b2457 he was coming off the very recent death of a parent, so I think having maladaptive coping tools is not really unexpected. I agree he was portrayed as unbalanced on the show and did exhibit some serious emotionally abusive behaviors, but given how all the rest of the cast, who saw them in person outside of what made it to Netflix, thought they were a great fit, I feel like we're missing something. On the reunion, he had himself together a lot more, so idk.
The way she held a head high when talking to her mom, I really felt how her mom must have felt. So much pride, and admiration. She is now part of my aspirational women book lol
Shaina was just a full blown hypocrite. Using religion when it's convenient to find a flaw in a relationship, but act overly sexual with someone else. That was soooo irritating. I felt that Nick said yes to Danielle out of fear, because her reactions are so unpredictable, he got trapped into that cycle of toxic codependent behavior. Neither are in the wrong, but both have a lot of inner healing to work through But on the positives, GO DEEPTI!!! And so happy for for Iyanna and Jarrette!!!
Nick is also not entirely there, they just seem really incompatible. Danielle definitely came across as not "strong enough" to handle herself or ready to get married. However I do think that it's a heavily exaggerated edit, because of her house and some moments that seemed contradictory to the "main characteristics".
I think it’s kinda problematic to suggest that being religious (specifically Christian) and sexual do not go hand in hand. The religious element is having sex outside marriage, not having sexual feelings so yeah…
Omg, I thought she was going to talk about season 1 until I started scrolling through the comments :( Cameron and Lauren are my favourites, you can see that the love they develop for each other is truly, well, true! They're such a cute couple :3
Yes! Cameron & Lauren are the only reason I watched season 2. I follow them both on social media. That's how much I enjoy them. Lol. This season was a shit show. None of the couples are good. Very shaky ground.
Best moments on the show…when Natalie and Deepti said No at the altar. They both deserve better. Sal realized that Mallory was not in 100% which is why he said no. I’m glad he did. I love Sal 🥰. Shauna, Shayne and Shake are 💩. You gotta watch season 1.
Mellory and Sal just cameacross as having different vibes, being in different stages of life, seemed like an odd choice that wouldn't have worked out anyway.
My sister and I have been talking about how this show just fast-tracks relationships and that's where most of the problems come from. If it really wants to follow the scientific method and be strict about the whole "experiment" aspect, it would work a lot better over a period of six months to a year (or even three months if that's too hard for production). In the end, most of the couples who said no didn't say no because they didn't have an authentic connection, they said no because they didn't feel ready to marry someone after SIX WEEKS of knowing them. At that point, the show isn't even testing its original hypothesis as much as it's testing how couples weather such a wild timeline. Most of the issues these couples run into aren't because they didn't form an authentic connection in the pods but because of the pressure that timeline put on them.
I feel like 3 months would be a good time because it's still "fast" in society's eyes, but would also give the couples a couple of extra weeks to just think and work things out
@@emiliabolsas 2/6 is a failed experiment tho. Like if 2/6 people died in a pharmaceutical trial they would not sell that drug. This is a lifelong commitment. I'm not gonna say the "experiment worked" when...it clearly didn't.
@@emiliabolsas Oh trust I'm letting Netflix do whatever they want. :) I have no control over that megacorp. The original commenter was just talking about what they think might help improve the experiment and you're shutting it down because you're claiming it worked. It did not work. Full stop. 2/6 is not a success in any world. Did it make good TV regardless? Absolutely. But it didn't work, and I'm not going to pretend it did.
Shane’s baseball scene was so hard to watch… the way he reacts to almost everything in the show was hard to watch. I don’t usually watch reality shows like this, but I’m glad I did because I appreciate my man so much more. Made me realize we’re such a good match and super compatible in most aspects of our lives.
When you said Shaina had "pick me girl vibes", I think you were accidentally confusing her with that other blonde Trisha, that was only in the first episode. She said several times that she had so many friends and that all of the guys were already in love with her. I was really hoping you would talk about this chick because she obviously didn't get a proposal, but the producers just threw her in because she was insane!
Ok, I'm glad you said this bc that's what I thought and then I started doubting myself and thinking maybe I was confused and it was Shaina that was saying all that.
Hiii! I hope you guys like todays video! I’m so sorry if there are any small editing mistakes in this one. On top of losing 75% of my original footage, my computer kept crashing trying to process the video which caused some delays! I hope you guys still enjoy and I’ll see ya in the next one! 😊
Hannah, are you kidding me? Girl, you gave us an episode by episode breakdown?! I'd love more of these on TV series because I feel so many of us don't have girlfriends to gossip about these shows. Love you so much! 💗
I want to mention that I think the reason all of Nick and Danielle's fights come out of nowhere is not because it's stuff that happened off camera, but because Danielle seems to be dealing with a really intense anxiety/panic disorder, so the fights really start from her head. I used to be the same way and my past relationships were basically identical to this. Where out of nowhere I would start a fight based on very real, but wrong internal panic attacks and my partner would be SO confused and frustrated. Anxiety meds were like magic for me, and all of those irrational arguments have disappeared.
I agree. I identify with Danielle and I’m on meds for anxiety. I used to be the same way but with therapy and meds I feel muuuuch better. I still sometimes get that way but only when I’m pmsing.
I totally felt like I understood what was going on with them! There is a whole thing going on in my head that doesn't necessarily reflect what was actually going on.
Yup, I thought the same because I have been in the exact same situation. My own insecurities and anxiety have ruined my relationships in the past, but I quickly realized I was the problem and took care of my mental health because I hated the way I acted
It's more like borderline personality disorder-the chaos and HUGE fear of abandonment, the impulsiveness and constant fighting and insecurity, need for attention etc...BPD all the way. Good luck Nick! Not saying she doesn't have anxiety but that's not her main issue. BPD is all about difficulty with interpersonal relationships.
Every single time Nick and Danielle fought, I was just screaming at the screen like "Just go to ONE couples therapy session and 90% of your communication issues will go away!" I was so happy when they talked about going to therapy at the reunion and how they learned Nick is a fixer and Danielle just needs to be heard and supported emotionally. It's such a common problem for couples that I was really glad to see them work through.
Ikr i saw this comment on another LIB video and all the replies were "tHaTs JuSt HiS LovE LanGuAgE" but like thats literally not what it was at allllll, he was doing it in such a weird insecure way thats hard to explain
Not gonna lie i feel like if the roles were reversed we'd feel bad for the girl who has to keep asking for compliments from her man and getting told things like "put that shirt back on" "your such a dick". I empathize with Shayne in that aspect, the way Natalie treated him casually was hella demeaning . But Shane still a has emotional control issues.
Yes I need someone to talk about this show with 😭 What I love about Deeps is the day of the wedding she says, “I know exactly what I’m going to say” and says no. She knows her worth and was proud of it 🥰 Also please do the reunion reaction!!!
Just an anecdote, but my brother in law got married after knowing a woman for a month and it was been one of the most wildly toxic relationships I’ve had the displeasure of observing.
Shayne seriously has issues controlling his emotions through the entire show. Like he was always getting upset with Natalie about the most insignificant things, and then wouldn't give her the chance to defend herself, and would just dip out. I wish he would have just picked Shania because I feel like he deserved someone as equally shallow and one dimensional
@Essiggurke well even when she tries to talk to him after the wedding, she's being super kind and sincere, and he's just like "I meant everything I said last night".. You mean when you told me you hated me and that I am the worst thing that's ever happened to you??? No no no, maybe do some self reflecting, possibly in a therapist's office, because you're not going to say horrible things to me and then act like I'm the one that did you wrong by saying I don't want to marry you because that was a cause for concern for me. I really think they need to change the dynamic of the show to be over the expanse of 6 months- a year, and maybe showcase like 3 months in the pods, because I feel like 10 days is just not enough time to build a genuine connection. They more focused on trying to find someone they even remotely click with so they can get to the next step, instead of having the time to actually talk about all the important things to see how they would be able to build a life together realistically outside of the show. The only people who seemed to do that were Iyanna and Jerette, who were constantly communicating their concerns and figuring out how to work through it. Everyone else kinda threw their hands up like "I love this person? So it is what it is" . I think love can be blind if given the time to actually build the core foundation, the whole thing is just too whirlwind to get the results that the people on the show actually want.
My bf made a really good point about Shayne. Shayne seemed like he had a lot of trauma responses, and he definitely seems like he had a good deal of damage from a previous relationship. Unfortunately, those things culminated in toxic behaviors that Natalie didn't deserve. We both thought that he needed to go to therapy and work on himself a lot before actually committing to someone, and that Natalie shouldn't have to stay with him while he does that.
I'm not defending the way he confronted her about it, but it seems dismissive to say feeling put down by your partner is insignificant? I haven't heard anyone validate his feelings and I'm wondering if there's a confirmation bias happening with him fitting the "d-bag" stereotype look. I've even seen people calling him potentially dangerous and I'm not sure if I'm missing something. Most people in the show seems fairly "toxic" but they don't seem to be as scrutinized as he is. He just came across as **maybe** on the spectrum to me, (being really loud and sometimes unaware, sensitive, upfront in. away that people find jarring) but that's just because I'm also on it and it makes me sad he'd be called dangerous and a gaslighter with what seems like just generally being an asshole.. like everyone else on the show. I just wish people could extend some empathy to people who arent like them.
@@chee8572 I guess I just feel like him flipping out because she doesn't brag about their relationship is an insignificant thing to have such an aggressive reaction but that's just me. Or because she didn't say he was pretty/obsessing over how good-looking he is. He also had extremely explosive reactions that didn't fit the conversation, and just as someone who has been with a person who liked to turn every argument into a list of everything you do wrong and so you're the "crazy one" and whatever wrong he did is somehow also your fault, it is gaslighting actually, and it's extremely damaging.
After seeing what Shaina's family is like, especially with her brothers asking Kyle if he was into "American" things (which I am so certain is because he is ethnically ambiguous), it really points to Shaina thinking that Natalie and Shayne's relationship is a "fraud" because Natalie is Asian and she probably thinks that theres now way a big white dude like him would be into an Asian women. Its unfortunate but there are so many white (and sometimes blonde) women who think they're above WOC.
Chip and Joanna Gaines anyone?? Just one of American’s most beloved mixed race power couples. Shaina was a toxic bitch in how she played literally everyone.
I had 0 inclination to watch this show but said "i'll try one episode" after watching this video. I am back to say i spent 2 whole days of my life bingeing this show all the way into the reunion. I hope you're happy, Hannah. I hope you're satisfied with what you've done to me. Now i feel the need to watch the other trashy show they promo-d in the reunion. My life was so different before this video. I am a changed person. If for the better is debatable
lol same, I watched like 20 mins of this video and then I went to watch it because I wanted to know what she was talking about. I also had no intention of watching it.
Lol oooh the inclusion of that trailer at the end of the reunion made me laugh so hard! They were all clearly so uncomfortable & then they get the slap in the face reminder that this is all for entertainment & had to sit through the promo 😂🤦🏽♀️ mess. The show should really have therapists for the people they make go through all this nonsense
That whole “I have a lot of friends” thing was from a woman named Trisha. She was only featured in the first episode so a lot of people confused her with Shaina.
Also, Shaina is not a realtor (like Hannah says), she’s a hairdresser. Shayne is the realtor 🤦🏽♀️😆 there is so much confusion with the names, and the characters who look alike
As someone who watched the Japanese version first. It's so much more wholesome and much more focused on the pods. You never see anyone kiss or hug when meeting eachother. A love triangle happens and everyone handles it well and are upfront and honest with eachother and it hurts but it's okay. (COUGH SHANE YOU DIPSTICK COUGH) The American version is soooo dramatic
It’s true that 6 is the production quota! There’s a girl who was on this season who went to my college. She was never featured but shared on IG that she coupled with a guy, got engaged and did the whole thing but the camera crew chose not to follow them.
I'm sooooooooooooo glad you're discussing this, I've desperately wanted to hear what other people got from this show because its such a chaotic guilty pleasure! I wanna point out one correction, Shaina definitely got the villain edit (and was still messy esp in that love triangle/rhombus) but she wasn't the one talking about being super popular and having a lot of friends, that was Trisha (also blonde) and she practically disappeared after the first episode i.e. Trisha was edited how you thought Shane was going to be, basically only included to show that she was too obnoxious to be picked.
I think Shaina was talking about having a super high sex drive and needing sex every five minutes with Shane, thought that may have been Trisha ( and her 8 thousand Instagram followers!). If it was Shaina, she turned on the religion when it suited her, trying to give Kyle an out when they met for the first time. Shayne gave me massive frat boy/douchebag vibes and some people have said he seemed high most of the time. His reaction at the bachelor party when he couldn’t get the bat to connect to the ball and had a temper tantrum was such a massive red flag to me, especially as he was so jealous of the guys who managed to do it. Then what he said to Natalie just before the wedding ( granted, we only heard her side of things) is not good either. Danielle needs some therapy rather than a husband, I think, and Nick could do with some too. Neither of them has a good communication style or knows how to have a civil argument. I liked Mallory, and thought Sal was sweet too. I think if they had more time, they’d be a good match, as they seem to have similar values,
Shaina really is a villain tho. Her and Shane deserve eachother. She was talking about her high sex drive with him immediately but she’s so religious she doesn’t believe evolution? She refused to be honest with Kyle even once. She didn’t care about the religious differences, she just wanted to push him away so she could get Shane back.
I love Deepti! Also, cause the show painted them as the 'Indian people who used to date only white people and now they reconnected to their Indian roots through each other', so watching it felt that they are supposed to be together and Deepti is going to be a perfect wife and Shake just needs to shift his priorities and commit to the emotional aspect of the relationship. I was sure that Deepti is going to be all yes and I LOVED how she chose herself. It was so beautiful and empowering for all the women!
I think the "pods" combined with people's desires to get married allow for people to manufacture a fantasy...in other words, they fall in love with the feeling of being in love and the idea of the person, versus falling in love with the *actual* person. It's so clear that many people on the show need to work on themselves and aren't ready to be in a partnership.
Only on episode 8 but so far Nick is my favorite on this season, not because of how he is with Danielle, but because in all the group settings, he's just there to stir the pot. He was always asking pointed questions and bringing up information to the others just to see what happened and I loved it so much. He had no loyalty and it was hilarious to watch
As a Black woman I’m deeply troubled by Iyanna and Jarrette’s relationship. I was so bothered by the fact that the only values that he frequently referenced about her is resilience, strength, and beauty. Now there’s nothing wrong with respecting those attributes but as Iyanna noted I’m strong but I’m fragile too. Oftentimes when black women are characterized as the strong black woman there’s very little space to be fragile. Due to the hurt she experienced in her life her partner needs to understand that the strength she used to overcome hardships doesn’t have to be a constant attribute related to her personality. Her partner should provide her safety to be vulnerable and fragile, because being Black in America you have to carry so much strength on a daily due to prejudice and microgression’s that you experience. I’ve been in relationships were vulnerability and being fragile is considered a negative emotional thing because it’s opposite of the strength that I consistently show and that is extremely frustrating. This relationship triggered how the strong black woman myth limits Black woman from being anything other than that.
Although I don't agree with the whole 'black in America', I did notice just objectively that that's all he could say about her - her strength, resilience. I don't think it was so much about her being black as it was about he needed an excuse as to why he liked her enough to marry her now but not enough for him to have chosen her first right out the gate over Mallory. The fact is he only knew one thing (as far as I know ) about her 'strength' - the sexual assault she told him about. She reminds me so much of myself and she's very feminine and I don't think Jarrett is masculine/manly enough for her at all. I don't think he can make her feel self or maintain the household... with all his 40-year-old bachelor energy I worry she'll have to step into a masculine role that'll be exhausting for her in her marriage to try and make him act how a man is supposed to
I was wondering about the power balance and gender roles for this couple too. My opinion is they did trauma bonding, which is more about feeling "understood" while talking of past events, but I'm not sure about their future. Maybe they'll work on it, they both seemed enthusiastic about getting together, but she seems to be a deeper thinker than he is, and she has this frailty about her, like a wounded bird, that seriously broke my heart. Jarette didn't seem to be out of his "bro" phase yet, when he was talking about the knife wound inflicted on him I was like...dear God, what kind of entourage does this man have? Because it doesn't sound safe. I hope he takes good care of her.
@@mirand0la Exactly on that about his injury. It popped in my head but I forgot due to the severity of the story but it's like... How the hell does a healthy, normal grown man get into a situation where your 'friend' nearly stabs you to death? That spells gang activity to me, drugs, illegal things, and guns. Ugh I wish she'd said no to his proposal. I could tell she wanted to say no, but wanted the fantasy of love more
@@kpopxvaporwave3327 thumbs up for the comment. Do you know what puzzled me about the initial Jarette-Malory connection? If I remember well, he was attracted by her energy and her being outgoing etc....like she was one of the boys. Then he switched to Iyanna but his energy remained constant, as if he wasn't adapting to another partner and her more subtle feminine vibe.
@@mirand0la I never even caught on to that but remember how on the beach when all the contestants met each other and he saw and talked to Mallory, Mallory said that Jarrett reminds her of her previous relationships, where the guy can't treat her like an actual woman? I think he's the type of guy who can't zero in on one woman and romance her and take care of her like a man in love would. He's the kind who keeps exes around for quick sex and constant validation, he's not emotionally available so he doesn't care about the needs of the woman he's with... I've known guys like him unfortunately in my past, and honestly, they have no ability to love at all due to serious issues so... I couldn't be happy for their wedding. I'm curious about what's going to get revealed in the last episode Friday when we get an update
1:01:28 I think Danielle and Nick's fights seem like they come out of nowhere because Danielle's anxiety/insecurity makes things up. She catastrophizes and mind-reads, thus assuming the intent behind a lot of Nick's actions. I feel like she sees him do something completely normal (to us) and then assumes the worst because of her emotional issues. She then lets her anxiety manifest into anger and frustration towards him over time. Then she explodes. So Nick (rightfully so) gets confused and frustrated because it literally comes out of nowhere. He's caught off guard not knowing why she is upset all of a sudden, she gets upset at him even more for not knowing/ not being able to tell she was upset, and it just blows up.
Deeps is such a queen and deserves so so so much better. I'm glad she stood up for herself at the end. Also, when Natalie said no, I screamed RUN GIRL RUN!!!! She dodged a freaking bullet let's be real
No I will say that Nick came off as a pot stirrer to me. Like he started to really piss me off. Especially when it was the scenes where he’s commenting on Shayne and Natalie’s relationship to Shaina. It enabled her to go up to Shayne and start more shit (the beach scene where she has the Utah hat). Like Shayne and Natalie’s relationship was not the best, but that doesn’t justify it.
Hi, just came here to say that the girl who was being a pick me and saying "i'm so popular and I have so many friends." That girl's name was Trisha. Trisha and Shaina are two entirely different people. They didn't give Shaina a villian arch she was very much portrayed as elegant, mysterious, and sexy and not like a villian in the beginning
I have NEEDED to talk to a friend about this show hahaha. No one had the same predictions of the character development like I did and it was so interesting to see it come to fruition. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! :)) 🖤
i’d also love to talk abt natalie’s mom and the stare of DEATH that she gives shane’s mom before natalie walked down the aisle. like i feel like there’s something more that we don’t know about that happened between them
Cuz they had a terrible fight the night before and he told Natalie she was the worst thing that ever happened to him. I'm sure Natalie told her mom about it
Natalie mentions he got very angry and then said she was scared on different scenes before the wedding. I got the vibe he got really really aggressive. You can see he's trying not to explode on camera when things don't go his way, especially after Natalie says no at the altar. I totally believe he has anger issues and sometimes loses control, especially if nobody is watching.
"they haven't been through a lot they've just had a lot of arguments" really made nick and danielle's whole thing click for me. you hit the nail on the head
This was thoroughly entertaining but the way you shouted "...and then they get legally married!!" made me laugh my ass off. The absurdity of this show. I love it.
Shake was so devasted that Deepti wouldnt settle for him. Cry about it more lmfaooo God I'm so glad Natalie said no. I hope she ran for the HILLS after that conversation. She deserves so much better thab him... Also honestly Mallory and Sal were so mature. I dont have malice towards either of them -- theyre two adults in a weird situation trying for the best for themselves and each other! It's very clear they care about each other, even if they didnt get married.
That’s true I didn’t even think about that, also actual blind people fall in love all the time so it’s not like this crazy concept! At the same time, if we were to assume that these couples were in fact in love, I think that the original saying still applies since they do dismiss a lot of red flags because of their desires to get married to each other because they were in love
I liked the first season and this season. Also, if you haven’t seen it, you should really check out Love is Blind Japan. It’s so good. They actually do focus on talking to each other about how they will work as a couple, goals, expectations and I think that is super important. It’s real interesting to see differences in how culture can impact how this “ experiment” goes. On a side note, I thought Shayne and Natalie were so good starting out but it became real clear that they had real communication issues.
You can tell how different the cultures are. When the couples meet in the American version they start making out and the Japanese couples just hold hands and hug lol
While it was hard to watch Jarrett tell Iyanna about the Mallory conversation I still was like yes, yes, yes at least he is being honest with her! Jarrett & Iyanna were my fave couple hands down!
Shaina was not the one saying she had a lot of friends and instagram followers and being obnoxious, it was some other girl called Trisha. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who mixed them up 😅
Love your thoughts so far… I wish you had watched season 1 because the love stories were WAY more believable, and two of the couples that got married are still going strong. I felt like the couples this season were just in it to win it, and everyone just seemed to be settling for less than what they really wanted. Season 1 didn’t come off that way (to me).
That’s how I feel about all the quarantine Netflix shows (The Circle, Love is Blind, Too Hot to Handle) the first season felt so much more genuine and now that they know how to play “the game” it’s less enjoyable
THANK YOU for talking about how terrible Shayne is!! I honestly don’t think he should have ever been on TV, especially a dating show, and it really goes to show how poorly these contestants are vetted sometimes! The whole time I was watching, he reminded me of all the men I’ve known in my life to be dangerous. His behavior particularly reminded me of an abusive ex and it made me so scared for Natalie.
The whole time I'm just thinking how is no one seeing this? Like his fidgeting and weird twitching and just that wide-eyed empty psycho stare, the gaslighting made my jaw absolutely drop... Especially what we found out he ended up saying to her during that fight before their wedding... Who says that to their spouse before their wedding day unless they're trying to 'test' whether they'll subscribe to further abuse? I think a lot of their arguments was him trying to wear down her sense of self and ugh... he was just so scary to me
A few of my friends invited my husband and I to watched it with them and we got SUCKED IN! We don’t even watch reality TV. We were discussing if Shayne or Shake was worse, and I was frustrated that no one brought up Shaynes anger issues and what appeared to me (based on watching the show as a recovering alcoholic) to be substance abuse problems. Also coming from an abusive relationship, seeing that really scared me, and a lot of my friends seemed to ignore that.
I think the love is blind aspect comes through because when we initiate relationships usually it’s BECAUSE of how they look. This show doesn’t allow you to do that, you have to commit to something first then consider looks later. In that way it’s not wasted. I just don’t think you can say physical attraction is not a part of marriage lol. You do get used to being with someone you love regardless of looks I been there, but when they need physicality and I can’t get into it, well… they can try to villainize me but it is what it is.
Thank you for pointing out the excessive scenes of making out and sexual interaction, instead of financial or goal-setting discussions. In my opinion, this is one of the main issues with today‘s media, esp. American TV programming. Marriage is constantly portrayed either as a fairytale, or simply a sexual escapade, which couldn‘t be further from the truth. On the flip side, financially beneficial marriages are portrayed as a nightmare, which also is quite disingenuous. Marriage is a legal contractual agreement, to commit to each other for life. Looking at it from a logical point of view, common values, core beliefs and life goals should be the ultimate motivations to marry someone, and not how curvaceous their bum is, or how well they „make out“, or orgasmic the sex is. I‘m happy to debate with anyone, once banks start accepting mortgage payments in the currency of „make out“! 🤣
I really recommend watching Love is Blind Japan. It's not as drama driven and really about each contestant finding love. You also learn more about all the people in the pods, not just the couples and the couples can break up before the wedding so its not as humilating to break up at the alter. I think you'd really like it
I LOVED this show the first season; very guilty pleasure, crappy reality show type vibe. BUT my biggest note to the show producers/casting directors is I’d love to see less “traditionally attractive” people and more just like everyday type people. I did notice this season had a few plus size people but none of them were the featured 6 couples. And I just would’ve liked to see more people who just weren’t beautiful model types. I think it is saying a lot that this show claims to be proving a point that love is blind when the people they pick aren’t people anyone would be “unhappy” to be paired with once seen.
I think Netflix’s Love is Blind actually did a good job of capturing a diverse group with different body types, occupations, attractiveness etc. Compared to other shows like The Bachelor, the people on Love is Blind is representative of what you’d see in the real world. Keep in mind that producers focused on people that were chosen to get engaged. If the plus size people did not get engaged, their journey wasn’t shown because there’s only so much screen time to dedicate to individuals whose journey will be cut off shortly anyway.
I wanna chat about Jarette. Not only did he not choose her first but he also made no effort to change his habits after Iyanna said his going out bothered her. There was also a scene where right before their wedding he was drinking with his buddies and laughing about how Iyanna didn't want him to show up drunk at the alter. To me, that says he doesn't respect her wishes/ opinions. I think he'll continue to choose his preferred lifestyle over her. She'll continue to be his second choice.
Yeah but no. I disagree. Contrary to popular belief, the beginning /early stages of marriage are the hardest for MOST couples. It was quite difficult for my husband and I to adjust to our newfound non-single lives. It took us about 3 months to fully adjust and figure out eachothers boundaries.
@@GirlyEnglishGamer that's totally fair. I've heard the first year in particular can be difficult. Hannah made a similar point. I hope for Iyanna's sake that they made things work and are happy together. I don't think Jarette is a bad person. I just don't think he's ready.
@@anniebaum163 😊. I do agree with your gut feeling about him. He seems to be immensely immature and somewhat superficial. I think he's attracted to rather superficial features of her or seems to be in love with the IDEA of being married to a pretty, lightskinned woman Vs really wanting to be married. She's really in it seriously. He doesn't seem to see that. He didn't seem to have much to say about her when he was asked what he loved about her by her family.
literally i feel like he does not know what he wants he keeps questioning mallory ring like give it a rest she ain't interested I'm surprise lyanna said yes I lost my respect for her I wouldn't want to be someone second choice
Just some details from the first season that might explain some things: 1 - In season one there were I think 6 couples that got engaged but the contestants said there were actually more than that. Basically, it was far more successful than production thought it was going to be so they ended up having to limit how many engagements they went forward with. I haven't read anything about season 2 but I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened. 2 - I know in season one they talked a bit more about the wedding costs and essentially I think production paid for the basics but anything past that, the couples had to cover the costs. There was a scene with the wedding dresses where someone implied that they were given a couple options but changes or extras would cost them (if I remember correctly I think it was a scene with Amber). 3 - Apparently production REALLY pushes them to not make a decision until the wedding. Which isn't hugely surprising, they obviously want the drama that brings. But in season one Jessica was not dealing well and tried to leave the show but they really pressured her to stay. I imagine that likely played into why Shaina and Kyle had such a painful death. Production was probably trying to convince them to stick it out until the wedding.
Rory got engaged and honestly I wanted more of him in the show. I think the levelheadedness Rory could have brought would have been welcome in season 1
You absolutely NEED to watch season one!!! It was kind of sad to me, that the second season didn't have any wholesome relationship... it was just painful and sad to watch. Am I the only one who found Nick incredibly non-supportive and not a good partner?
@@OpqHMg Well she definetely gad some issues, but he made no effort to be supportive or try to understand her. He didn't listen to her and got aggressive verbally, in a similar way that Shayne did, in my opinion... I know that extremely insecure and jealous people are not usually good in relationships, but he didn't even try. I'm glad they are at couples therapy and I hope he learned to give her affirmations
the vibe i got is danielle being *the* most insecure person on the planet and him being forced to "deal" with problems she herself created while spiraling. esp the fight they had on the day of meeting her family?! like yes it's important and obv nick was focused on it while it was happening, why did she want him to think about it the whole day? clearly he was supportive of her in mexico. but the way to deal with anxiety and insecurity isn't to dote on them and base ur entire life and feelings around them. i'd maybe understand the insecurity if nick had been like jarrette and proposed to danielle after being rejected by someone else but he literally chose *her*. they tried to bring up The Age Gap as a Thing, but i think danielle just needs hella therapy, she called nick a narcissist bc he didnt entertain her being jealous over nothing on the couples' beach party after mexico? after he reassured her it was nothing but she still insisted it wasnt and tried to convince him he was having the feelings SHE thought he was having. trust me, it's incredibly rare for me to take a man's side, but wow nick deserves so much better
Love Is Blind Japan is pretty darn good!! There's alot of focus about finances, fertility, living preferences (one part was about a couple having tension over removing hair from the floor - which I thought was mundane yet a very practical conversation), approval of friends and family. They elude to deeper conversations that are had when the cameras aren't rolling which makes alot of sense. Confrontations about whether things said are simply grandstanding for the show or geniune thoughts. There's almost no focus on people kissing or having their hands all over each other (probably keeping with their mainstream culture), but more reserved and still intimate moments. At the end they also talk openly about registering the marriage officially after the show airs (the wedding aired was symbolic). Quite balanced in my opinion, I would totally recommend it!
I watched a couple episodes and it was good! Like u said it definitely different from the western experience and I feel they take it a bit more serious. I really do love and respect other cultures but I wish it was dubbed 😫 I like to read body language and faces but they talk so fast I have to concentrate on reading🥺
Love is Blind Japan is so much calmer than the American version. I enjoyed it a lot more because they all seemed to be very practical and considerate with their partners, even when disagreements came up.
@@aziababy5732 yea sometimes it's good to have that option, I like to watch foreign shows and sometimes will switch to the English dubs when I can't concentrate on reading.... I find that if they get voice actors of the same cultural background and have a similar accent it's much better. Alot of the time it's with a very strong American accent which is sometimes out of place.
Except the fact i had to focus and keep reading i loooooved the Japan version..their conversations were so deep and their use of words amazing. Loved it
One thing that always bothered me about the show is when asked why each person loves their partner they always answer with statements about how he or she reciprocates emotions. They say “he makes me feel safe” or “she makes me feel wanted”, never actual traits specific to their person. Just kinda screams of people who are in love with the idea of love.
It’s also “what can this person do for me” and not what you see in that person that you love ABOUT them. Like no one said “I love their passion for X activity” or “they’re very driven” or “I love their creativity and outgoing personality” etc. it was always qualities that self serve
Iyanna is my babes. I think Jarrett truly does have love for her but constantly saying what you love about her is her resilience??? As a black woman, that's scaryyy. I wish them the absolute best tho. I want it to work.
@@andreafeo6084 Another potentially worrying sign. It's so frustrating cause Iyanna deserves a guy who will go above and beyond to give her the world, and recognise who she is outside of how she loves him
This!!!!! I hated that he couldn’t come up with more than “she’s been through a lot and has been strong”. 🤦🏾♀️ I absolutely wish the best for them as well. Iyanna is such a kind, genuine down to earth soul 🥺
I agree with everything you said especially about how short the pods sections were! - weirdly I just watched Love Is Blind Japan and it fixes A LOT of problems from the US version - you see so many more genuine connections in the pods and you get much more of a sense of how long they have together and it’s so interesting… I felt like I was kind of half watching the US version but with LIB Japan I actually cried after the first episode which shocked me! I’d love it if you checked it out to compare :)
Girl did you watch this show multiple times or just take REALLY good notes the first time???? So impressed by this recap and as always love to hear your thoughts.
I thought sal was adorable and Mallory didn’t deserve him or jarette. Jarette and iyana are a great couple and still together, the quotes about them being thugs and not crying on their wedding day was so wild! They’re a really good fit
Same i was on the floor when they both said that thugs don't cry. It was the cutest thing how they were on the same frequency even when they weren't in the same room 😭💕
I wasn’t sure about Mallory and Sal, until after the wedding. You could tell Sal was really upset and worried that he was hurting Mallory by saying no, and the way Mal comforted him even after she was the one who got “dumped at the alter”, you can tell in that moment how much they really care about one another. I hope they’re still together ❤️
I would love if they took away some of the alcohol (they offer it in every scene because reality tv) and offered counseling to the couples between the honeymoon and the wedding day would really be nice to make this more about genuine growth and human connection and less about drama.
7:52 "So if that sounds interesting to you and crazy... so if that sounds interesting to you uh... so that is the premise of the show, and if that sounds interesting to you..." 🤣
I feel like Shayna just wanted to be engaged so she could move forward to the next part of the show and try and win Shayne back. When she realized that she couldn’t do that however, she hyperflated the religion problem with Kyle so they’d break up. In my opinion, she never intended to marry Kyle in the first place, and used the religious aspect to cut and run. If she were soooo religious, why didn’t she bring up religion to Shayne? Because I know that man isn’t the most holy person in the world. And why does she have tattoos? Which normally wouldn’t be a big problem, but she made it seem like such a big ordeal that being religious was a core part of her personality, you’d think she was like a preachers daughter that follows every rule in the book. Anyways I think Shayna was wrong is all aspects of how she went about navigating this “experiment”.
I agree in regards to what Shaina did. That’s what I was thinking. Bc Shane was always asking her in the pods what she was wearing and he would say how hot she was but then when she couldn’t have Shane and never said anything in regards about religion to him but to Kyle?? which to me kinda seemed to me hypocritical bc why is she willing to tell Shane what your wearing and when she didn’t get to have Shane but then it looked like she was settling with Kyle but with no intentions of actually willing to go through with it. Like she was more sexual towards with Shane than Kyle it was a completely different dynamic.
She definitely was more sexually flirtatious with Shane from the get go and probably that was her way to try and hook him but he saw something more serious and real and grounding in Natalie even though he was attracted to Shaina from all that energetic sexual flirting, imho
One thing I will say is the first season is so much more genuine, Lauren and Cameron are such a GOOD couple and watching season two I was really trying to see what couple would be the next Lauren and Cameron but season two and season one are very drastically different in the sense that it felt like the season two cast was not there for what the season one cast was there for, a genuine connection.
I feel like with Sal and Mal, you could just feel the show was too much for them. It seemed more like they would have needed to take it slow but were forced into rushing things. I agree the singing moments were so unbelievably cringe
Shayne had some of the most manic expressions I've ever seen. The way he would look at some people when he was upset was genuinely unsettling. There's speculation that he may be using/may have used drugs, but either way that was just a huge red flag.
This feels like I'm having a chat with a bestie and I love it. I have so many thoughts on this shows format. It could be a very interesting and viable concept for actual experiments and human interest but they rush it too much. I'd love to see a wider variety of people with extended time in the pod. Imagine talking to someone for two months without seeing them then the reveal is the girl is a hella emo and the boy is a Jock. Two people who'd be unlikely to talk in the real world making a legit emotional connection over a realistic time frame. Now that I wanna see.
Shayne annoyed the hell out of me immediately, I have no idea what Natalie was seeing and I was hoping the entire time that she'd see his true colors and not agree to that marriage. Also, I saw other people mention this in the comments but I cannot recommend enough watching Love Is Blind Japan. Having binged the first season of the US version when it dropped two years ago and eagerly waiting for this season since then, the Japanese version succeeds everywhere that this season failed for me and a lot of people. It was a lot more wholesome and heartfelt; the producers didn't edit things down for drama but rather went out of their way to let things breathe and give the little moments their space; and we got more episodes of everyone in the pods not only to show the dating but to show the men and women on their respective sides bonding with each other, genuinely supporting each other when things got emotional, and building long-lasting friendships, which the US version didn't show. Overall it showed more authenticity and vulnerability, and there are a lot of genuinely beautiful moments in that version.
Yes! My immediate reaction to love is blind: Japan was how much more authentic and real it felt, it was kind of a shock to keep going back to the original when they were both releasing episodes at the same time just because of the clear differences
To be honest I’m SO over dating shows so I only watched like 3 episodes before giving up. There is literally 100 different dating shows with different gimmicks, and I couldn’t care less about any of them, but I’ll listen to you rant about it. 🤣
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Whenever Sal sang to Mallory I had to think of the quote/ meme "If he writes her a sonnet, he loves her. If he writes her a hundred sonnets, he loves sonnets".
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I’ve never heard this one before but I’m glad you shared it 😂
That is GOLD!!! Thank you!!
That’s perfect for them lol
I disagree
Shake couldn’t fetishize Deepti the way he did with blondes. His self hatred towards his culture was so evident. When Deepti turned him down at the alter I screamed! I was so proud of her.
And he was shallow as hell, not to mention he didn't put in much effort at all
I said the same thing
Holy shit, that’s super deep. You nailed it! Very insightful
Hi dear 💝
I think Shake had a 'virgin / whore' complex with Deepti. Internalised racism meant he couldn't see her as a sexual being
Just came here to tell everyone that when Shake said “I got Nobu reservations” my fiancé said “that’s exactly what you got… no boo” and I’m still laughing about it
Omggggg lmaoooooo I love ittttt😂😂😂😂😂
Shout out to your fiancé for that pun 😂😂😂
Ahahaha thanks for sharing Cause that is hilarious
That's iconic
Lol I said the same thing to my sister!!
The scene of deeps repeating to her mom “I chose myself” and her mom was crying it was EVERYTHING I said YES QUEEN
Omg yes, made me cry. And reminded me a lot of my mom so I loved it. Just wants the best for her daughter and unconditionally loves her
Mad respect
YES queen😇
Yes but she should have chose herself in the pods when everyone told her that Shake is toxic and superficial.
@@xsaraaaaax -
When shayne said shainas name instead of Natalie and the got very aggressive and started gaslighting her. It was so crazy to watch
Facts! he shifted blame so quickly,
"well if your mad, I think it's weird your mad" 🤢🤮
I'm sorry you're not going to make me apologize when YOU fucked up!
Shayne is alway playing the victim instead of taking accountability for his actions
There were so many red flags with Shayne. It was SO clear to me that this man has emotional regulation/aggression/anger issues that he needs to work though. It was demonstrated over and over again and I was kind of shocked that this wasn’t brought up by a single person at the reunion, not even by Natalie. Like, the way he flipped out at Natalie for being upset that he mistook her for Shaina. She had a right to be a little upset! And the way he was SO livid on the bachelor party night that he didn’t hit the ball once and was throwing the bat in anger and screaming. The way he was acting at the reunion, I could go on. When Natalie said no to him at the altar because she said that she felt scared around him says A LOT.
@@caitlin8274 I agree and as much as I want the other cast to call Shayne out, I feel that they didn’t b/c they were aware that he got issue and might not be able to handle the negative pressure and might do something bad to himself.
We all saw how Shayne handle that event in the pod with Natalie. He took himself through a hella emotional ride without Natalie saying anything. Now imagine if he was pressure at the reunion.
@@bornrich9264 I also think that’s probably the reason nobody said anything at the reunion. He was already freaking out and started acting really weird when he was asked if he and Shaina had seen each other outside of the show. Shaina said they were “only friends” so why was he be acting like that? I think it was understood among everyone that this guy is just too unstable to handle the truth
Shake trying to play off her rejecting him as like “I’m happy that she got to reject me because I was totally going to reject her” was such baby behavior
YES! Just confirms Deeps made the right decision
He literally got worse and worse his behavior at the wedding was gross
Exactly! He's frustrating and disturbing to watch. He came off as very disingenuous, pretending to not care he got dumped. Yeah right! We saw right through him and so did Deep.
Yeah, he's gross. He said "if I had gone first and said yes, she totally would have said yes."
But….but….he had reservations at Nobu on Sunday! What a douchebag. Deepti4eva
we need to start a prayer circle for Natalie because........SHE DESERVES BETTER
Dude she tried to keep the ring when the show (as stated in the contract) asked for it back. She tried to STEAL a diamond ring from them! They had to threaten to sue her to get it back. She’s got issues.
@@theIaurenshow, 😂😂😂😂😂 that's hilarious
@@theIaurenshow she tried to keep her engagement ring and rip off the billion dollar corporation that misleads the audience and the cast members with convoluted story beats that could easily cause confusion? Yeah she must be the awful one not at all the show or the corp that runs it.
@@theIaurenshow so what? Fuck them lol.
@@theIaurenshow she just answered a Q&A on her Instagram where she said the producers actually let all the women keep their rings and she showed her ring, with the date February 28, 2022 on her computer to prove when she had it. Don't spread misinformation to make people look bad dude, check your sources.
I really just adored how literally everyone could not STAND Shake in the reunion. I have never seen so many people so done with one person and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
I actually hated that. It overshadowed their own problematic behavior and gave him more fuel to be even meaner.
i don’t like shake but most of the stuff he was saying was true. the show is called love is blind, not marriage is blind. not everyone needs to get married on the show. and it’s obvious that some people on the show feel pressured to continue despite not having a good relationship with their partner
Yes! When Vanessa went off on him I love it!
@@joanna0988 totally, and I think it encouraged them to pile on him even more. It's unfortunate
@@crystalfarmer4074 I loved that! Especially when Nick joined and supported what she was saying!
Can we talk about how Shaina’s religion was only an issue with Kyle? There is absolutely nothing on the show about her even bringing up her beliefs with Shayne (unlike her need to bring up how sexually active she is-which, good for you, but highly inconsistent) and the idea that she would ever legitimately think Shayne would be a spiritual leader is so mind-bogglingly ridiculous, I can’t stand it. She donned her religion as plot armor and it was incredibly manipulative and disingenuous. I have no doubt that she has swooped in to date Shayne irl.
On another note-did anyone else throw up a little when Shake told Deepti when he first met her in person that he wanted to put a baby in her? What a gross way to describe it. 🤮
Good observation! She only brought up the religion thing with Kyle. Shayne doesn’t seem religious! Plus you’re right, she was leading a lot with sex meanwhile claiming she’s super religious
That was an issue that my friend & I spoke about while we were watching it. Shaina could’ve cared less about religion when it came to Shayne, but it was an issue with Kyle? I call BS. It really can’t be that big of an issue if she wasn’t taking that energy across the board with each person she had any kind of interest in. I did not like her at all on the show.
that's literally what i was thinking the whole time!! like do what you want but just be honest and say you wanted someone else/weren't attracted to kyle... it was so disingenuous to say it's because of religion while also admitting you've had premarital sex. there's nothing WRONG with that, but if you say you're a woman of faith, why also make it known that you're an active sinner??
Yep! Shaina didn't really care about faith at all.
Like most Christians do, only use their beliefs at their convenience or to back up their shitty, toxic, bigoted personal beliefs.
I think that’s the discrepancy between Shake’s initial reaction to Deepti (enthusiastic attraction) and his later lack of attraction is because when he first saw her, he was just incredibly relieved that she wasn’t plus sized. So what we’re seeing is relief and later his honest feelings. He is literally so gross. He just wants a pretty doll with personalized design specs he can play with-he’s not interested in an actual person with thoughts and feelings.
I noticed he was super into her until Mexico when she walked out in her bikini, the facial expressions he was making you can’t miss them, and the rumor is that shake was saying a lot of really mean things about Deepti’s loose skin, tbh I don’t think not finding a person attractive means you care about the wrong things, but it’s certainly the way he handled things terribly and spoke so ill of her that makes him such a jerk, he could have kindly said he wasn’t attracted to her and many of us could relate because we’ve all met great people that we just weren’t attracted to, but again he was very immature about it, worse than immature actually
@@avas132 exactly! and i’m so over ppl fighting for this man to defend him with their lives. nobody cares that he isn’t attracted to her, that can’t be helped. it’s the way he was talking ab her body and judging her. it’s normal to have some loose skin if u lose weight. if he hates it that much he should pay to get it removed💀
Apparently he said he liked how she looked with the professional makeup at the reveal which is ridiculous because she looks the same as without makeup
@@brianagarcia8546 and these r the same type of men saying makeup is catfish but they expect women to be perfectly made up 24 hours a day🤦♀️
Oh my gosh you hit the nail on the head! So true
The fact that Shayne even had one girl interested in him is completely mind boggling to me, let alone two. 😭 I won’t stick any labels on him, but he seems like someone who’d be incredibly toxic and egotistical in a relationship. I’m scared for Natalie tbh.
He gave me Jake Paul vibes lol
@@Colleen10119 that’s exactly what I thought too
He was gaslighting Natalie so much and when she was being goofy how much of a dick he was towards her saying that she plays too much
And his "energy"... He is a big bloke. I can't believe that petite Natalie didn't run. I would have at the first meeting, scary guy.
i still cant get over how he acted when he thought natalie was shaina and natalie got upset about it. chilling
It made me so emotional when Natalie said she knew it wasn’t right with Shane because he didn’t make her feel warm and safe like her dad does. As someone who doesn’t have a close relationship with my own dad, it put into perspective how important a positive male presence is especially in a woman’s life. I’ve made choices with men where I didn’t know any better because I didn’t have a positive male figure or relationship to compare them to.
Me too :( the men in my life have never made me feel safe or warm, so I’ve never really dated. I don’t trust men. Natalie’s really lucky to have such a loving dad
girl same 😭 that made me go to therapy
omg same. I cried when she said that!
I feel the same way, it would have saved me from a lot of heart break if I had that
It's also normal and common to end up with someone who is like your parents (if you have a good relationship with your parents, of course). I tell my bf how he's a lot like my dad when it comes to personality and interests
The amount of RELIEF I felt when Natalie said “no” to Shayne was amazing. She deserves so much better.
Shayne acts like her son lol
Same. She seriously dodged a bullet
They way he tried to turn it around on her was terrible. Dude you said you wish you never met her and she was the worst thing to happen to you. Of course she’ll marry you
when I tell you I fucking SCREAMED
@@XxraexX1000 big manchild energy
There were so many red flags with Shayne. It was SO clear to me that this man has emotional regulation/aggression/anger issues that he needs to work though. It was demonstrated over and over again and I was kind of shocked that this wasn’t brought up by a single person at the reunion, not even by Natalie. Like, the way he flipped out at Natalie for being upset that he mistook her for Shaina. She had a right to be a little upset given the context! And the way he was SO livid on the night of the bachelor party that he didn’t hit the ball once and was throwing the bat in anger and screaming then goes home and starts a fight with Natalie because she asked if perhaps he had too much to drink?? The way he was acting at the reunion, I could go on. When Natalie said no to him at the altar because she said that she felt scared around him says A LOT.
Yeah honestly I truly believe him not being able to hit the ball was the catalyst for all those events happening, and sad as it is that Natalie had to be at the receiving end of his anger, I think it was good that it came out right in time.
I was so mad no one talked about his anger at the reunion or brought up the conversion him and shaina had
Man needs big therapy
SPOT ON! Tbh that was one of the most interesting things that happened in the season and I’m upset it didn’t get talked about more
He reminded me a lot of someone I know that has undiagnosed ADHD. The emotional outbursts and dysregulation, the need for compliments/ego boosts, the constant attention diversion (squirrel!), etc..
I would do anything for Deepti to be the next bachelorette. 😭 she’s so amazing
Me too! As a brown girl shes inspiring
eww no keep her away from that francize!! she deserves better than being judged by white america
@@rawkrXbabee racist
As an Indian woman, witnessing another Indian girl who obsesses repeatedly about having only been with white people is not amazing. I wish she didn't do that. That aside, i thought she was sweet
Oh yes id watch that
Shayne absolutely scared me this whole season, like when he freaked out over the baseball thing I was legitimately scared for Natalie’s physical well-being
I think he just might be on the spectrum? Im not sure why no one else isn't picking up on this. I didn't get any indication he was dangerous my goodness. Not saying he's perfect but lets have some empathy my friends
Yes, it's very clear that, at least when he drinks, he can be very aggressive with little impulse control. That could turn out to be dangerous for Natalie if it went unaddressed. Especially after what happened in the last few episodes with their "fight". Really scary behavior from him.
I think there is not enough focus on the fact that he is likely also an alcoholic on the dl.
Especially since what kicked off that fight was Natalie telling him that maybe he had had too much to drink
Shayne really went home after the bachelor party and took out his anger about being inadequate at baseball on Natalie. She really dodged a bullet
Shake 100% knew Deeps was out of his league. The fact that he was so attracted to her when they first saw each other, but ran around telling anyone who would listen that he wasn’t attractive.. I think he was trying to convince people that if they didn’t work out it was because of her. Even after she left him, talking about going to Nobu showed his insecurity.
FACTS!
YES!!! His low self-esteem issues were on full display throughout the show. I believe he knew it would be him that failed to live up to the performance so he went out of his way to avoid it. He told everyone (including multiple women) hoping it would get back to Deeps & she'd want to be done with him. When that didn't happen, he figured he'd go along with the wedding assuming Deeps would never say no to HIM bc with their shared cultural background they both would've made it work. His face when she says no & how he goes about trying to be normal with the guests afterwards was so cringe. Like you KNOW he cried a lot afterwards
🎯🎯🎯
He reeked of insecurity. It was awful.
Plus the racism..the way he talked abt her...and in the reunion everyone said it wasn't shown how much shit he said
I think last season they covered up to like 2k for the dresses but I’m SO happy they had traditional Indian dresses for Deepti, they were stunning and she made sure she looked GOOD when she chose herself! Like my jaw dropped but I was soooooo happy she didn’t marry him, Shake was nauseating 🤢
I literally clapped when she said no to him! 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
I thought it was so amazing that Sal spoke to Mallory’s family. No other man had any consideration for the others family or their own ego I loved that moment, it felt so genuine!!
This!!
He's gay, that's why. A straight man would never, and even on the show they didn't.
@@jurrasicparx bro what?!
@@jurrasicparx So if a man is polite and respectful, he's gay? And if he's not, he's straight? Not how that works, bud
@@bluejasmne definitely I agree. It's hard to explain though, when you're gay you pick up on alot of signs because you yourself have used them in the past to come across as straight-acting. His roommate is in love with him as well.
the fact that Natalie has continued dating Shayne after everything makes me so genuinely sad
And the sad part is, there are many guys who would be SO much better to her!! Korean guys even who could talk to her family and understand her culture! She could do so much better!!!
Shake’s mom is such an Indian mom which I love like she just went “it’s your fault and you should do better” that’s such an Indian/Asian mom thing to do and was genuinely so authentic. I was literally like y’all are awesome how is he such a douche
when his mom was like, "honestly I'm struggling to sympathise with you" 💀
@@k8inscotland349 yeah 😂 right after she told him.... TMI
I love that other cultures have that community. I felt so bad for Deepti but she really did fit in so well with his family. Americans don't have that, they're suspicious and hate everyone 😅
Agreed!!!
@@athena6832 honey, let me tell you indians are the same. I could write pages about the abuse that inlaws will do to the woman. And they always side with the son, even when he's wrong, even her parents will.
Shake's mom is amazing because she sounds like a woman that broke some toxic family cycles.
the fact that shake said multiple times he felt like he was with his aunt was wild to me. Also the triangle of Natalie, shania, and Shane is basically what happens in s1 with one of the other couples but ends differently. It was bad though that shania blew up at Shane and told him that his relationship with Natalie was a joke just bc she knew she didn’t wanna be with Kyle. Also I was so not expecting nick to say yes to Danielle. Like he looked miserable. Idk if it was just cause he was sweating but I didn’t think he would say I do.
It makes sense to me since Shake's whole reason for wanting Deep was selfish. All his compliments were were how she'd be so good for him. Never did he mention what he'd be giving her in return or how he was a benefit to her life and well being.
@@seroquelz Yes! He only talked about how they connected culturally and how she would be a good fit in his life. He never once mentioned all of her great qualities. Also, it’s one thing to not be attracted to someone, but it’s another to go behind their back and talk about unappealing they are to you. Like wow.
I feel like Nick and Danielle are like already separated and just waiting to officially divorce in enough time that the producers don’t get mad and they’ can save some face regarding this entire situation
Shake was so immature and insecure. Also no offence to DJs but if you’re in a dating show and a guy is a DJ, whether full time or on the side, RUN. It’s like whenever a DJ is on a dating show they’re either super insecure, only there for publicity, or both. Also I feel like I’m taking crazy pills but how was Shane of all people the center of a love triangle??. His personality is atrocious and when I first saw him appear on camera I thought “he has a face for radio” and then he talked and I thought “he doesn’t have a voice for radio tho” I truly hope Shaina was only pursuing him for clout because if not she’s got even bigger issues than not believing evolution
Nick was sweating so much because he was in hell 😂😭
Apparently on season one 7 couples got engaged but only 6 were chosen to "feature" and season two, 8 got engaged and once again 6 were chosen to follow along with.
Some of my thoughts:
1. Natalie deserves better.
2. Thank God Trisha wasn't shown after Ep. 1 - what an embarrassment to the social media industry.
3. Deeps is a queen and so is Shake's mom for being so supportive of Deeps!
4. The Shaina / Shayne / Natalie thing was a very odd Jessica repeat...
5. I hope Danielle can get some good therapy if she doesn't already, because she deserves to feel better and more secure/confident in herself.
This show is the most addictive guilty pleasure show and I can't wait for season 3 but honestly, I also just can't help but think of the mental health of everyone involved... it's such an incredibly intense situation and it seems many of them go on the show during a time of "need" for one reason or another (i.e. recent family death, recent life trauma, etc.) and I do worry about the state of mind they may be in or how this may damage their wellbeing.
Omg it's so cool that you're here!
It was actually 8 couples getting engaged each season but they only follow the 6 that have more entertainment (aka drama) potential.
I agree it would be amazing if they had therapy/some sort of debriefing and processing care. In actual scientific experiments involving humans this is something that is required, at least at academic institutions in my experience. I had to do a whole lengthy application process (IRB) to even do my project and could only start once it was approved.
omg hi molly !! i agree w all of your takes. i feel bad supporting a show that feels exploitative of peoples mental health like this but i keep coming back to it lol
Thank you for this info! I feel like one of the larger ladies was included in one of the events like the BBQ or something?....I wonder if she got engaged and they didn't focus on her?? That would b shitty
Didn't expect to see you here! I totally agree with your points, especially the mental health focus. Most people, but especially those who get together so quickly need to learn how to work together as well as how to fulfill themselves healthfully while in relationships. Sometimes it comes naturally, but often counseling can help.
Also, I love Shake's mom so much. She loves her son but doesn't want him to hurt anyone and tells him that. Love her.
One of the most awkward moments for me was Kyle being interviewed or doing a confessional thing or whatever it's called after Shaina leaves Mexico. She left his ass in Mexico without a word & it shows him talking about how she needs to work on her communication skills if their marriage is gonna work. Like come on man, she doesn't want to be with you. It was just awkward to watch for me.
Yeah that was ridiculous, take the hint brah
It's called a "talking head" for whatever reason, and yeah that was creepy.
That’s why I didn’t feel bad for him. Shaina was telling him straight up that she didn’t want marriage with him - in words AND actions - but he kept pushing.
@@jessicawilliams3849 i mean thats fair but we also cant forget that she literally said yes to the proposal, and kept making excuses after…he was probably confused as to why she would do that if she really truly didnt want to be with him
At 43:26 the nuttier part for me about Kyle and Shaina is he said he's been vegetarian for years and HE ATE MEAT FOR HER... and she STILL snuck out of Mexico in the middle of the night in a bathrobe 😭😭
season 1 was sooo much better! this season felt like a repeat but with less compatible couples who knew how the experiment worked already
Yesss, the couples now were so messsssy
Agreed
Someone on Twitter said something like the show had to be created so Lauren and Cameron could meet but it was all downhill from there, and I wholeheartedly agree 😭
Honestly I prefered this season. Season 1 was super wholesome but it lacked drama (which is the main reason I personally watch reality TV 😅) and this season is filled with it. I would've liked to see at least one good wholesome couple like Lauren/Cameron though.
Season 1 reminds me of the beginning seasons of 90day fiance .... Where it was literally legit people getting married... Then after a certain point it was just about people looking for attention.i feel this season of LIB2 many of them were looking for attention.
one thing i noticed for sal and mal is that they’re always saying “i DO love you” not just “i love you.” like it sounds like they’re trying to convince each other (and themselves) that this is love and that they have strong romantic feelings, when they really don’t.
I feel like this show wouldn’t be as jarring and hectic if the end stipulation WASN’T marriage 💀 I was talking with my friend about if we would do it or not and I said I would do it if the end goal wasn’t marriage. Like maybe they should get an apartment together towards the end of the extended process. Like get to know each other in the pods, ask them to date them exclusively, go on their first trip together (because traveling tells you so much about a person), continue the process for like four months, and then instead of the wedding, it’s an engagement party if they say yes. I feel like that makes far more sense than a whole legal marriage 💀
I save exact thing to a friend 🤣
Like why such a big commitment in such a short time?? We can’t be friends with benefits at the end??
@@ChasingTheChaseCrew Idk about friends with benefits lol but if they’re looking to build a substantial connection, forcing them into one in a week doesn’t seem conducive.
Right. I wish there was an option to say “I don’t wanna marry you right now but I’d like to pursue a relationship” because that’s realistic
A lot of people are like "I'm scared of Shayne, he could get physical", and I just wanted to say that gasligthing is psychological abuse. Abuse is abuse. SHAYNE IS AN ABUSER.
I think shayne has something (diagnosed or not) he doesnt seem to have any emotional control and he gets really frustrated when people irritate him and ther stimuli as well.
but that doesnt excuse abuse for sure. I think everyone should take a psych evaluation for these kinds of shows
@@k.b2457 he was coming off the very recent death of a parent, so I think having maladaptive coping tools is not really unexpected. I agree he was portrayed as unbalanced on the show and did exhibit some serious emotionally abusive behaviors, but given how all the rest of the cast, who saw them in person outside of what made it to Netflix, thought they were a great fit, I feel like we're missing something. On the reunion, he had himself together a lot more, so idk.
Literally while watching Deepti tell Shake no at the alter… I said to myself… “what an impressive women”. She is seriously a queen.
The way she held a head high when talking to her mom, I really felt how her mom must have felt. So much pride, and admiration. She is now part of my aspirational women book lol
Shaina was just a full blown hypocrite. Using religion when it's convenient to find a flaw in a relationship, but act overly sexual with someone else. That was soooo irritating. I felt that Nick said yes to Danielle out of fear, because her reactions are so unpredictable, he got trapped into that cycle of toxic codependent behavior. Neither are in the wrong, but both have a lot of inner healing to work through
But on the positives, GO DEEPTI!!! And so happy for for Iyanna and Jarrette!!!
Nick is also not entirely there, they just seem really incompatible.
Danielle definitely came across as not "strong enough" to handle herself or ready to get married. However I do think that it's a heavily exaggerated edit, because of her house and some moments that seemed contradictory to the "main characteristics".
I felt that too. He was sweating way too much almost like he was going to say no but then he changed his mind last minute
I've noticed that the super religious are high key obsessed with sex, bc it's such a forbidden, taboo thing to actively want it in their religions
I think it’s kinda problematic to suggest that being religious (specifically Christian) and sexual do not go hand in hand. The religious element is having sex outside marriage, not having sexual feelings so yeah…
They are divorced now, as if that wasn’t obvious
Please watch season 1 because Cameron and Lauren initial reaction is everything!!!
Omg yes I want her to fall in love with them like so many of us did when the first season aired!!
Omg, I thought she was going to talk about season 1 until I started scrolling through the comments :(
Cameron and Lauren are my favourites, you can see that the love they develop for each other is truly, well, true! They're such a cute couple :3
Yes please I would watch a 2hr review of season 1
Cameron and Lauren are GOALS. I love them so much. I have loved them from the first moment I saw them together.
Yes! Cameron & Lauren are the only reason I watched season 2. I follow them both on social media. That's how much I enjoy them. Lol. This season was a shit show. None of the couples are good. Very shaky ground.
Best moments on the show…when Natalie and Deepti said No at the altar. They both deserve better. Sal realized that Mallory was not in 100% which is why he said no. I’m glad he did. I love Sal 🥰. Shauna, Shayne and Shake are 💩. You gotta watch season 1.
Mellory and Sal just cameacross as having different vibes, being in different stages of life, seemed like an odd choice that wouldn't have worked out anyway.
My sister and I have been talking about how this show just fast-tracks relationships and that's where most of the problems come from. If it really wants to follow the scientific method and be strict about the whole "experiment" aspect, it would work a lot better over a period of six months to a year (or even three months if that's too hard for production). In the end, most of the couples who said no didn't say no because they didn't have an authentic connection, they said no because they didn't feel ready to marry someone after SIX WEEKS of knowing them. At that point, the show isn't even testing its original hypothesis as much as it's testing how couples weather such a wild timeline. Most of the issues these couples run into aren't because they didn't form an authentic connection in the pods but because of the pressure that timeline put on them.
I would agree except - two couples each season actually went through with it. So there truly IS a presumably workable premise here.
I feel like 3 months would be a good time because it's still "fast" in society's eyes, but would also give the couples a couple of extra weeks to just think and work things out
@@emiliabolsas 2/6 is a failed experiment tho. Like if 2/6 people died in a pharmaceutical trial they would not sell that drug. This is a lifelong commitment. I'm not gonna say the "experiment worked" when...it clearly didn't.
@@dandygandygrey let Netflix be the judge if it worked. They are making a fortune from this.
@@emiliabolsas Oh trust I'm letting Netflix do whatever they want. :) I have no control over that megacorp. The original commenter was just talking about what they think might help improve the experiment and you're shutting it down because you're claiming it worked. It did not work. Full stop. 2/6 is not a success in any world. Did it make good TV regardless? Absolutely. But it didn't work, and I'm not going to pretend it did.
Shane’s baseball scene was so hard to watch… the way he reacts to almost everything in the show was hard to watch. I don’t usually watch reality shows like this, but I’m glad I did because I appreciate my man so much more. Made me realize we’re such a good match and super compatible in most aspects of our lives.
When you said Shaina had "pick me girl vibes", I think you were accidentally confusing her with that other blonde Trisha, that was only in the first episode. She said several times that she had so many friends and that all of the guys were already in love with her. I was really hoping you would talk about this chick because she obviously didn't get a proposal, but the producers just threw her in because she was insane!
I agree. I’ve read comments on Instagram where lots of people got confused with the two of them.
Ok, I'm glad you said this bc that's what I thought and then I started doubting myself and thinking maybe I was confused and it was Shaina that was saying all that.
They did her so dirty with the camera angles too ☠️
That girl was insufferable lol
@@Lynsey17 me too! I know they weren’t the same person
Hiii! I hope you guys like todays video! I’m so sorry if there are any small editing mistakes in this one. On top of losing 75% of my original footage, my computer kept crashing trying to process the video which caused some delays! I hope you guys still enjoy and I’ll see ya in the next one! 😊
Will we be getting a podcast soon?🥺👉🏻👈🏻❤️
@@nadiahussein4843 yes! 😊
girl you been uploading so much you shouldn’t be apologizing!!! luv u
I suggest watching "Love is blind: Japan", all of the romance and cuteness, none of the toxicity ;)
Hannah, are you kidding me? Girl, you gave us an episode by episode breakdown?! I'd love more of these on TV series because I feel so many of us don't have girlfriends to gossip about these shows. Love you so much! 💗
I want to mention that I think the reason all of Nick and Danielle's fights come out of nowhere is not because it's stuff that happened off camera, but because Danielle seems to be dealing with a really intense anxiety/panic disorder, so the fights really start from her head. I used to be the same way and my past relationships were basically identical to this. Where out of nowhere I would start a fight based on very real, but wrong internal panic attacks and my partner would be SO confused and frustrated. Anxiety meds were like magic for me, and all of those irrational arguments have disappeared.
I agree. I identify with Danielle and I’m on meds for anxiety. I used to be the same way but with therapy and meds I feel muuuuch better. I still sometimes get that way but only when I’m pmsing.
I totally felt like I understood what was going on with them! There is a whole thing going on in my head that doesn't necessarily reflect what was actually going on.
Yup, I thought the same because I have been in the exact same situation. My own insecurities and anxiety have ruined my relationships in the past, but I quickly realized I was the problem and took care of my mental health because I hated the way I acted
It's more like borderline personality disorder-the chaos and HUGE fear of abandonment, the impulsiveness and constant fighting and insecurity, need for attention etc...BPD all the way. Good luck Nick! Not saying she doesn't have anxiety but that's not her main issue. BPD is all about difficulty with interpersonal relationships.
@@nasramohamed Exactly, she just projected all her insecurities onto him and created DRAMA...
Every single time Nick and Danielle fought, I was just screaming at the screen like "Just go to ONE couples therapy session and 90% of your communication issues will go away!" I was so happy when they talked about going to therapy at the reunion and how they learned Nick is a fixer and Danielle just needs to be heard and supported emotionally. It's such a common problem for couples that I was really glad to see them work through.
So weird how Shayne kept asking Natalie for compliments
Ikr i saw this comment on another LIB video and all the replies were "tHaTs JuSt HiS LovE LanGuAgE" but like thats literally not what it was at allllll, he was doing it in such a weird insecure way thats hard to explain
Shane needs approval to be accepted for sure
your not wrong but did she complement him?
Not gonna lie i feel like if the roles were reversed we'd feel bad for the girl who has to keep asking for compliments from her man and getting told things like "put that shirt back on" "your such a dick". I empathize with Shayne in that aspect, the way Natalie treated him casually was hella demeaning . But Shane still a has emotional control issues.
@@ginihall1234 yes in later episodes we see Natalie being a lot more complimentary to him because she’s taken what he told her into account.
Yes I need someone to talk about this show with 😭
What I love about Deeps is the day of the wedding she says, “I know exactly what I’m going to say” and says no. She knows her worth and was proud of it 🥰
Also please do the reunion reaction!!!
I was cheering for her. 'I choose me'... just classy from start to finish and her dress... drop dead gorgeous. Definitely my favorite.
And still made sure she looked GORGEOUS to dump that asshole even though she knew that was what she was going to say. Iconic.
Just an anecdote, but my brother in law got married after knowing a woman for a month and it was been one of the most wildly toxic relationships I’ve had the displeasure of observing.
Was it a religious relationship? That’s the only kind of relationship I could see needing to get married that fast
“I’ve had the displeasure of knowing” killed me 😂
Soo he married your sibling?
@@Rini_H it could have been her husbands brother
@@TipTheScales27 nope. They just have no self control.
Shayne seriously has issues controlling his emotions through the entire show. Like he was always getting upset with Natalie about the most insignificant things, and then wouldn't give her the chance to defend herself, and would just dip out. I wish he would have just picked Shania because I feel like he deserved someone as equally shallow and one dimensional
@Essiggurke well even when she tries to talk to him after the wedding, she's being super kind and sincere, and he's just like "I meant everything I said last night".. You mean when you told me you hated me and that I am the worst thing that's ever happened to you??? No no no, maybe do some self reflecting, possibly in a therapist's office, because you're not going to say horrible things to me and then act like I'm the one that did you wrong by saying I don't want to marry you because that was a cause for concern for me.
I really think they need to change the dynamic of the show to be over the expanse of 6 months- a year, and maybe showcase like 3 months in the pods, because I feel like 10 days is just not enough time to build a genuine connection. They more focused on trying to find someone they even remotely click with so they can get to the next step, instead of having the time to actually talk about all the important things to see how they would be able to build a life together realistically outside of the show. The only people who seemed to do that were Iyanna and Jerette, who were constantly communicating their concerns and figuring out how to work through it. Everyone else kinda threw their hands up like "I love this person? So it is what it is" . I think love can be blind if given the time to actually build the core foundation, the whole thing is just too whirlwind to get the results that the people on the show actually want.
My bf made a really good point about Shayne. Shayne seemed like he had a lot of trauma responses, and he definitely seems like he had a good deal of damage from a previous relationship. Unfortunately, those things culminated in toxic behaviors that Natalie didn't deserve. We both thought that he needed to go to therapy and work on himself a lot before actually committing to someone, and that Natalie shouldn't have to stay with him while he does that.
I'm not defending the way he confronted her about it, but it seems dismissive to say feeling put down by your partner is insignificant? I haven't heard anyone validate his feelings and I'm wondering if there's a confirmation bias happening with him fitting the "d-bag" stereotype look. I've even seen people calling him potentially dangerous and I'm not sure if I'm missing something. Most people in the show seems fairly "toxic" but they don't seem to be as scrutinized as he is. He just came across as **maybe** on the spectrum to me, (being really loud and sometimes unaware, sensitive, upfront in. away that people find jarring) but that's just because I'm also on it and it makes me sad he'd be called dangerous and a gaslighter with what seems like just generally being an asshole.. like everyone else on the show. I just wish people could extend some empathy to people who arent like them.
@@chee8572 I guess I just feel like him flipping out because she doesn't brag about their relationship is an insignificant thing to have such an aggressive reaction but that's just me. Or because she didn't say he was pretty/obsessing over how good-looking he is. He also had extremely explosive reactions that didn't fit the conversation, and just as someone who has been with a person who liked to turn every argument into a list of everything you do wrong and so you're the "crazy one" and whatever wrong he did is somehow also your fault, it is gaslighting actually, and it's extremely damaging.
After seeing what Shaina's family is like, especially with her brothers asking Kyle if he was into "American" things (which I am so certain is because he is ethnically ambiguous), it really points to Shaina thinking that Natalie and Shayne's relationship is a "fraud" because Natalie is Asian and she probably thinks that theres now way a big white dude like him would be into an Asian women. Its unfortunate but there are so many white (and sometimes blonde) women who think they're above WOC.
Chip and Joanna Gaines anyone?? Just one of American’s most beloved mixed race power couples. Shaina was a toxic bitch in how she played literally everyone.
I had 0 inclination to watch this show but said "i'll try one episode" after watching this video. I am back to say i spent 2 whole days of my life bingeing this show all the way into the reunion. I hope you're happy, Hannah. I hope you're satisfied with what you've done to me. Now i feel the need to watch the other trashy show they promo-d in the reunion. My life was so different before this video. I am a changed person. If for the better is debatable
lol same, I watched like 20 mins of this video and then I went to watch it because I wanted to know what she was talking about. I also had no intention of watching it.
Lol oooh the inclusion of that trailer at the end of the reunion made me laugh so hard! They were all clearly so uncomfortable & then they get the slap in the face reminder that this is all for entertainment & had to sit through the promo 😂🤦🏽♀️ mess. The show should really have therapists for the people they make go through all this nonsense
Same hahaha
I hope Hannah does a video on the other show, the Ultimatum. Its premise is even more weird and trashy than Love is Blind lol
As a grandma you just are precious
This is how I keep current.
Thank you
Not me watching Hannah talk about a show I never seen nor cared about for a straight HOUR & A HALF!! 👀
Same 😂 I think I might have to watch it now
Same, I love watching Hannah talk about anything 😄
SAME! But what did I do after watching her video? I watched the entire season 😂 Now I’m rewatching this to better understand it lol
Me binging your gardening vids as if I don't like in a high rise 😭
Same
That whole “I have a lot of friends” thing was from a woman named Trisha. She was only featured in the first episode so a lot of people confused her with Shaina.
She reminded me of Karen from Mean Girls 😂
Also, Shaina is not a realtor (like Hannah says), she’s a hairdresser. Shayne is the realtor 🤦🏽♀️😆 there is so much confusion with the names, and the characters who look alike
And SO MANY Instagram followers, we were not worthy
LIB shouldn’t have included that to be honest. It was super confusing for everyone.
I WISH she was featured more because she was such a train wreck.
As someone who watched the Japanese version first. It's so much more wholesome and much more focused on the pods. You never see anyone kiss or hug when meeting eachother. A love triangle happens and everyone handles it well and are upfront and honest with eachother and it hurts but it's okay. (COUGH SHANE YOU DIPSTICK COUGH) The American version is soooo dramatic
I agree with most of what you said however, many of them do at least hug when meeting each other and one couple even kiss.
It’s true that 6 is the production quota! There’s a girl who was on this season who went to my college. She was never featured but shared on IG that she coupled with a guy, got engaged and did the whole thing but the camera crew chose not to follow them.
wow that’s insanee did she still get paid?
“anD THEN THEY GOT LEGALLY MARRIED” is my favorite part because this show is just so insane and I had the same reaction 😂
I'm sooooooooooooo glad you're discussing this, I've desperately wanted to hear what other people got from this show because its such a chaotic guilty pleasure! I wanna point out one correction, Shaina definitely got the villain edit (and was still messy esp in that love triangle/rhombus) but she wasn't the one talking about being super popular and having a lot of friends, that was Trisha (also blonde) and she practically disappeared after the first episode i.e. Trisha was edited how you thought Shane was going to be, basically only included to show that she was too obnoxious to be picked.
I think Shaina was talking about having a super high sex drive and needing sex every five minutes with Shane, thought that may have been Trisha ( and her 8 thousand Instagram followers!). If it was Shaina, she turned on the religion when it suited her, trying to give Kyle an out when they met for the first time.
Shayne gave me massive frat boy/douchebag vibes and some people have said he seemed high most of the time. His reaction at the bachelor party when he couldn’t get the bat to connect to the ball and had a temper tantrum was such a massive red flag to me, especially as he was so jealous of the guys who managed to do it. Then what he said to Natalie just before the wedding ( granted, we only heard her side of things) is not good either.
Danielle needs some therapy rather than a husband, I think, and Nick could do with some too. Neither of them has a good communication style or knows how to have a civil argument.
I liked Mallory, and thought Sal was sweet too. I think if they had more time, they’d be a good match, as they seem to have similar values,
Was just coming down to the comments to see if anyone said this.
Shaina really is a villain tho. Her and Shane deserve eachother. She was talking about her high sex drive with him immediately but she’s so religious she doesn’t believe evolution? She refused to be honest with Kyle even once. She didn’t care about the religious differences, she just wanted to push him away so she could get Shane back.
Ok I thought that was Trisha!! Tbh I was interested to see what became of her, I didn’t like this season as much as first.
I love Deepti! Also, cause the show painted them as the 'Indian people who used to date only white people and now they reconnected to their Indian roots through each other', so watching it felt that they are supposed to be together and Deepti is going to be a perfect wife and Shake just needs to shift his priorities and commit to the emotional aspect of the relationship. I was sure that Deepti is going to be all yes and I LOVED how she chose herself. It was so beautiful and empowering for all the women!
I think the "pods" combined with people's desires to get married allow for people to manufacture a fantasy...in other words, they fall in love with the feeling of being in love and the idea of the person, versus falling in love with the *actual* person. It's so clear that many people on the show need to work on themselves and aren't ready to be in a partnership.
Only on episode 8 but so far Nick is my favorite on this season, not because of how he is with Danielle, but because in all the group settings, he's just there to stir the pot. He was always asking pointed questions and bringing up information to the others just to see what happened and I loved it so much. He had no loyalty and it was hilarious to watch
He was really our little drama channel, collecting and distributing all the tea 😂😂
As a Black woman I’m deeply troubled by Iyanna and Jarrette’s relationship. I was so bothered by the fact that the only values that he frequently referenced about her is resilience, strength, and beauty. Now there’s nothing wrong with respecting those attributes but as Iyanna noted I’m strong but I’m fragile too. Oftentimes when black women are characterized as the strong black woman there’s very little space to be fragile. Due to the hurt she experienced in her life her partner needs to understand that the strength she used to overcome hardships doesn’t have to be a constant attribute related to her personality. Her partner should provide her safety to be vulnerable and fragile, because being Black in America you have to carry so much strength on a daily due to prejudice and microgression’s that you experience. I’ve been in relationships were vulnerability and being fragile is considered a negative emotional thing because it’s opposite of the strength that I consistently show and that is extremely frustrating. This relationship triggered how the strong black woman myth limits Black woman from being anything other than that.
Although I don't agree with the whole 'black in America', I did notice just objectively that that's all he could say about her - her strength, resilience. I don't think it was so much about her being black as it was about he needed an excuse as to why he liked her enough to marry her now but not enough for him to have chosen her first right out the gate over Mallory. The fact is he only knew one thing (as far as I know ) about her 'strength' - the sexual assault she told him about. She reminds me so much of myself and she's very feminine and I don't think Jarrett is masculine/manly enough for her at all. I don't think he can make her feel self or maintain the household... with all his 40-year-old bachelor energy I worry she'll have to step into a masculine role that'll be exhausting for her in her marriage to try and make him act how a man is supposed to
I was wondering about the power balance and gender roles for this couple too. My opinion is they did trauma bonding, which is more about feeling "understood" while talking of past events, but I'm not sure about their future. Maybe they'll work on it, they both seemed enthusiastic about getting together, but she seems to be a deeper thinker than he is, and she has this frailty about her, like a wounded bird, that seriously broke my heart. Jarette didn't seem to be out of his "bro" phase yet, when he was talking about the knife wound inflicted on him I was like...dear God, what kind of entourage does this man have? Because it doesn't sound safe. I hope he takes good care of her.
@@mirand0la Exactly on that about his injury. It popped in my head but I forgot due to the severity of the story but it's like... How the hell does a healthy, normal grown man get into a situation where your 'friend' nearly stabs you to death? That spells gang activity to me, drugs, illegal things, and guns. Ugh I wish she'd said no to his proposal. I could tell she wanted to say no, but wanted the fantasy of love more
@@kpopxvaporwave3327 thumbs up for the comment. Do you know what puzzled me about the initial Jarette-Malory connection? If I remember well, he was attracted by her energy and her being outgoing etc....like she was one of the boys. Then he switched to Iyanna but his energy remained constant, as if he wasn't adapting to another partner and her more subtle feminine vibe.
@@mirand0la I never even caught on to that but remember how on the beach when all the contestants met each other and he saw and talked to Mallory, Mallory said that Jarrett reminds her of her previous relationships, where the guy can't treat her like an actual woman? I think he's the type of guy who can't zero in on one woman and romance her and take care of her like a man in love would. He's the kind who keeps exes around for quick sex and constant validation, he's not emotionally available so he doesn't care about the needs of the woman he's with... I've known guys like him unfortunately in my past, and honestly, they have no ability to love at all due to serious issues so... I couldn't be happy for their wedding. I'm curious about what's going to get revealed in the last episode Friday when we get an update
1:01:28 I think Danielle and Nick's fights seem like they come out of nowhere because Danielle's anxiety/insecurity makes things up. She catastrophizes and mind-reads, thus assuming the intent behind a lot of Nick's actions. I feel like she sees him do something completely normal (to us) and then assumes the worst because of her emotional issues. She then lets her anxiety manifest into anger and frustration towards him over time. Then she explodes. So Nick (rightfully so) gets confused and frustrated because it literally comes out of nowhere. He's caught off guard not knowing why she is upset all of a sudden, she gets upset at him even more for not knowing/ not being able to tell she was upset, and it just blows up.
Deeps is such a queen and deserves so so so much better. I'm glad she stood up for herself at the end. Also, when Natalie said no, I screamed RUN GIRL RUN!!!! She dodged a freaking bullet let's be real
It was soooo fun to see the couples gossip about each other! Especially when Nick was involved-- he was there for it lmao
omg nick gossiping gave me life, it’s rare to see a man love drama, thought he might’ve been an ally iykwim 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
@@jodonaldson3943 i was thinking that the entire season !!
That's because he's secretly gay
No I will say that Nick came off as a pot stirrer to me. Like he started to really piss me off. Especially when it was the scenes where he’s commenting on Shayne and Natalie’s relationship to Shaina. It enabled her to go up to Shayne and start more shit (the beach scene where she has the Utah hat). Like Shayne and Natalie’s relationship was not the best, but that doesn’t justify it.
@@m_here1 LMAO same I was like why is this man so into stirring the pot ? He's way too old for that
Hi, just came here to say that the girl who was being a pick me and saying "i'm so popular and I have so many friends." That girl's name was Trisha. Trisha and Shaina are two entirely different people. They didn't give Shaina a villian arch she was very much portrayed as elegant, mysterious, and sexy and not like a villian in the beginning
I was just about to comment this!
Honestly Shaina was an ahole though.
Same I was just watching this video and was about to mention this lol
I have NEEDED to talk to a friend about this show hahaha. No one had the same predictions of the character development like I did and it was so interesting to see it come to fruition. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! :)) 🖤
Sammmee. I’ve been using the subreddit since my fiancé didn’t want to hear it. 🤣
@@Gabriellaella23 LMAO my partner didn’t wanna hear it either 🤣
Same. So I'm so glad to have her talk about it. Thoroughly enjoyed "Reality Altert Podcast" too tho.
i’d also love to talk abt natalie’s mom and the stare of DEATH that she gives shane’s mom before natalie walked down the aisle. like i feel like there’s something more that we don’t know about that happened between them
I noticed that too
Cuz they had a terrible fight the night before and he told Natalie she was the worst thing that ever happened to him. I'm sure Natalie told her mom about it
I read it more as a look of deep concern on both parts.
Natalie mentions he got very angry and then said she was scared on different scenes before the wedding. I got the vibe he got really really aggressive. You can see he's trying not to explode on camera when things don't go his way, especially after Natalie says no at the altar. I totally believe he has anger issues and sometimes loses control, especially if nobody is watching.
"they haven't been through a lot they've just had a lot of arguments" really made nick and danielle's whole thing click for me. you hit the nail on the head
they should psychologically evaluate the candidates. so many of them were just not ready or needed therapy. I didn't feel this season at all
This was thoroughly entertaining but the way you shouted "...and then they get legally married!!" made me laugh my ass off. The absurdity of this show. I love it.
Shake was so devasted that Deepti wouldnt settle for him. Cry about it more lmfaooo
God I'm so glad Natalie said no. I hope she ran for the HILLS after that conversation. She deserves so much better thab him...
Also honestly Mallory and Sal were so mature. I dont have malice towards either of them -- theyre two adults in a weird situation trying for the best for themselves and each other! It's very clear they care about each other, even if they didnt get married.
I love how they’re whole experiment is to “see if love is truly blind” but that expression love is blind means something completely different
That’s true I didn’t even think about that, also actual blind people fall in love all the time so it’s not like this crazy concept! At the same time, if we were to assume that these couples were in fact in love, I think that the original saying still applies since they do dismiss a lot of red flags because of their desires to get married to each other because they were in love
Omg yes I thought I was the only one who was thinking that
I liked the first season and this season. Also, if you haven’t seen it, you should really check out Love is Blind Japan. It’s so good. They actually do focus on talking to each other about how they will work as a couple, goals, expectations and I think that is super important. It’s real interesting to see differences in how culture can impact how this “ experiment” goes.
On a side note, I thought Shayne and Natalie were so good starting out but it became real clear that they had real communication issues.
^^^
They have Love Is Blind - Brazil, as well!
So good, the Japanese one is. They are just like, I’m out. When shit goes wrong. Lol
You can tell how different the cultures are. When the couples meet in the American version they start making out and the Japanese couples just hold hands and hug lol
Hi dear 😘
While it was hard to watch Jarrett tell Iyanna about the Mallory conversation I still was like yes, yes, yes at least he is being honest with her! Jarrett & Iyanna were my fave couple hands down!
AGREED I LOVE THEM
Shaina was not the one saying she had a lot of friends and instagram followers and being obnoxious, it was some other girl called Trisha. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who mixed them up 😅
I was hoping someone would point this out! Trisha tried her darndest to stay on the show but no luck 😂
Love your thoughts so far…
I wish you had watched season 1 because the love stories were WAY more believable, and two of the couples that got married are still going strong. I felt like the couples this season were just in it to win it, and everyone just seemed to be settling for less than what they really wanted.
Season 1 didn’t come off that way (to me).
omg 100% my thoughts as well!! I also felt like season 1 had a lot less "red flag" moments
Agreed
This right here
That’s how I feel about all the quarantine Netflix shows (The Circle, Love is Blind, Too Hot to Handle) the first season felt so much more genuine and now that they know how to play “the game” it’s less enjoyable
@@tarynbatten7092 Good point, although I really enjoyed both seasons of the Circle.
THANK YOU for talking about how terrible Shayne is!! I honestly don’t think he should have ever been on TV, especially a dating show, and it really goes to show how poorly these contestants are vetted sometimes! The whole time I was watching, he reminded me of all the men I’ve known in my life to be dangerous. His behavior particularly reminded me of an abusive ex and it made me so scared for Natalie.
Hi dear 💝
The whole time I'm just thinking how is no one seeing this? Like his fidgeting and weird twitching and just that wide-eyed empty psycho stare, the gaslighting made my jaw absolutely drop... Especially what we found out he ended up saying to her during that fight before their wedding... Who says that to their spouse before their wedding day unless they're trying to 'test' whether they'll subscribe to further abuse? I think a lot of their arguments was him trying to wear down her sense of self and ugh... he was just so scary to me
@@kpopxvaporwave3327 absolutely was on drugs- classic coke head mannerisms
A few of my friends invited my husband and I to watched it with them and we got SUCKED IN! We don’t even watch reality TV.
We were discussing if Shayne or Shake was worse, and I was frustrated that no one brought up Shaynes anger issues and what appeared to me (based on watching the show as a recovering alcoholic) to be substance abuse problems. Also coming from an abusive relationship, seeing that really scared me, and a lot of my friends seemed to ignore that.
Yes!! I feel the same way! He reminded me so much of my ex who is extremely dangerous. I couldn't believe he got past vetting.
You should watch season 1!!! Cameron & Lauren were everyone’s favorite & they are still married now 😃
I remember saying to my mom that out of all the couples, Cameron and Lauren would be the real endgame. So happy to know they are still together.
I compared every couple to Lauren and Cameron and they just weren’t doing it for me 😂😂 Lauren and Cam were just too good
I think the love is blind aspect comes through because when we initiate relationships usually it’s BECAUSE of how they look. This show doesn’t allow you to do that, you have to commit to something first then consider looks later. In that way it’s not wasted. I just don’t think you can say physical attraction is not a part of marriage lol. You do get used to being with someone you love regardless of looks I been there, but when they need physicality and I can’t get into it, well… they can try to villainize me but it is what it is.
Thank you for pointing out the excessive scenes of making out and sexual interaction, instead of financial or goal-setting discussions. In my opinion, this is one of the main issues with today‘s media, esp. American TV programming. Marriage is constantly portrayed either as a fairytale, or simply a sexual escapade, which couldn‘t be further from the truth. On the flip side, financially beneficial marriages are portrayed as a nightmare, which also is quite disingenuous. Marriage is a legal contractual agreement, to commit to each other for life. Looking at it from a logical point of view, common values, core beliefs and life goals should be the ultimate motivations to marry someone, and not how curvaceous their bum is, or how well they „make out“, or orgasmic the sex is. I‘m happy to debate with anyone, once banks start accepting mortgage payments in the currency of „make out“! 🤣
I really recommend watching Love is Blind Japan. It's not as drama driven and really about each contestant finding love. You also learn more about all the people in the pods, not just the couples and the couples can break up before the wedding so its not as humilating to break up at the alter. I think you'd really like it
Ryotaro and motomi are the only dating show couple I’ve genuinely wanted to work out
I loved the Japan one. I was really rooting for shuntaro but definitely believe he needed someone closer to his age!
I watched it, so boring do not recommend
I LOVED this show the first season; very guilty pleasure, crappy reality show type vibe. BUT my biggest note to the show producers/casting directors is I’d love to see less “traditionally attractive” people and more just like everyday type people. I did notice this season had a few plus size people but none of them were the featured 6 couples. And I just would’ve liked to see more people who just weren’t beautiful model types. I think it is saying a lot that this show claims to be proving a point that love is blind when the people they pick aren’t people anyone would be “unhappy” to be paired with once seen.
this. this is the comment ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 i couldn’t agree more!
I think Netflix’s Love is Blind actually did a good job of capturing a diverse group with different body types, occupations, attractiveness etc. Compared to other shows like The Bachelor, the people on Love is Blind is representative of what you’d see in the real world. Keep in mind that producers focused on people that were chosen to get engaged. If the plus size people did not get engaged, their journey wasn’t shown because there’s only so much screen time to dedicate to individuals whose journey will be cut off shortly anyway.
This!! Also I'm surprised they haven't had any LGBTQ relationships on the show
I thought that was weird too. How come none of them got chosen and how come they were barely shown? It kinda invalidates the premise a bit.
They didn’t show plus size people because they didn’t get engaged. In my opinion all of the contestants were more or less average looking.
I wanna chat about Jarette. Not only did he not choose her first but he also made no effort to change his habits after Iyanna said his going out bothered her. There was also a scene where right before their wedding he was drinking with his buddies and laughing about how Iyanna didn't want him to show up drunk at the alter. To me, that says he doesn't respect her wishes/ opinions. I think he'll continue to choose his preferred lifestyle over her. She'll continue to be his second choice.
Yeah but no. I disagree. Contrary to popular belief, the beginning /early stages of marriage are the hardest for MOST couples. It was quite difficult for my husband and I to adjust to our newfound non-single lives. It took us about 3 months to fully adjust and figure out eachothers boundaries.
@@GirlyEnglishGamer that's totally fair. I've heard the first year in particular can be difficult. Hannah made a similar point.
I hope for Iyanna's sake that they made things work and are happy together. I don't think Jarette is a bad person. I just don't think he's ready.
@@anniebaum163 😊. I do agree with your gut feeling about him. He seems to be immensely immature and somewhat superficial. I think he's attracted to rather superficial features of her or seems to be in love with the IDEA of being married to a pretty, lightskinned woman Vs really wanting to be married. She's really in it seriously. He doesn't seem to see that. He didn't seem to have much to say about her when he was asked what he loved about her by her family.
literally i feel like he does not know what he wants he keeps questioning mallory ring like give it a rest she ain't interested I'm surprise lyanna said yes I lost my respect for her I wouldn't want to be someone second choice
@@GirlyEnglishGamer agree my hubby and I had wayyy move disagreements the first 6 months
Just some details from the first season that might explain some things:
1 - In season one there were I think 6 couples that got engaged but the contestants said there were actually more than that. Basically, it was far more successful than production thought it was going to be so they ended up having to limit how many engagements they went forward with. I haven't read anything about season 2 but I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened.
2 - I know in season one they talked a bit more about the wedding costs and essentially I think production paid for the basics but anything past that, the couples had to cover the costs. There was a scene with the wedding dresses where someone implied that they were given a couple options but changes or extras would cost them (if I remember correctly I think it was a scene with Amber).
3 - Apparently production REALLY pushes them to not make a decision until the wedding. Which isn't hugely surprising, they obviously want the drama that brings. But in season one Jessica was not dealing well and tried to leave the show but they really pressured her to stay. I imagine that likely played into why Shaina and Kyle had such a painful death. Production was probably trying to convince them to stick it out until the wedding.
Rory got engaged and honestly I wanted more of him in the show. I think the levelheadedness Rory could have brought would have been welcome in season 1
You absolutely NEED to watch season one!!! It was kind of sad to me, that the second season didn't have any wholesome relationship... it was just painful and sad to watch.
Am I the only one who found Nick incredibly non-supportive and not a good partner?
No??? I thought Danielle was behaving awfully to him the whole time. It was awful to watch
@@OpqHMg Well she definetely gad some issues, but he made no effort to be supportive or try to understand her. He didn't listen to her and got aggressive verbally, in a similar way that Shayne did, in my opinion...
I know that extremely insecure and jealous people are not usually good in relationships, but he didn't even try. I'm glad they are at couples therapy and I hope he learned to give her affirmations
the vibe i got is danielle being *the* most insecure person on the planet and him being forced to "deal" with problems she herself created while spiraling. esp the fight they had on the day of meeting her family?! like yes it's important and obv nick was focused on it while it was happening, why did she want him to think about it the whole day?
clearly he was supportive of her in mexico.
but the way to deal with anxiety and insecurity isn't to dote on them and base ur entire life and feelings around them.
i'd maybe understand the insecurity if nick had been like jarrette and proposed to danielle after being rejected by someone else but he literally chose *her*.
they tried to bring up The Age Gap as a Thing, but i think danielle just needs hella therapy, she called nick a narcissist bc he didnt entertain her being jealous over nothing on the couples' beach party after mexico? after he reassured her it was nothing but she still insisted it wasnt and tried to convince him he was having the feelings SHE thought he was having.
trust me, it's incredibly rare for me to take a man's side, but wow nick deserves so much better
@@elfsi1 agreed on everything you wrote 100%
Love Is Blind Japan is pretty darn good!! There's alot of focus about finances, fertility, living preferences (one part was about a couple having tension over removing hair from the floor - which I thought was mundane yet a very practical conversation), approval of friends and family. They elude to deeper conversations that are had when the cameras aren't rolling which makes alot of sense. Confrontations about whether things said are simply grandstanding for the show or geniune thoughts. There's almost no focus on people kissing or having their hands all over each other (probably keeping with their mainstream culture), but more reserved and still intimate moments. At the end they also talk openly about registering the marriage officially after the show airs (the wedding aired was symbolic). Quite balanced in my opinion, I would totally recommend it!
I watched a couple episodes and it was good! Like u said it definitely different from the western experience and I feel they take it a bit more serious. I really do love and respect other cultures but I wish it was dubbed 😫 I like to read body language and faces but they talk so fast I have to concentrate on reading🥺
I saw they had a Japanese and Brazilian show. I think I’ll watch that now thanks for your input.
Love is Blind Japan is so much calmer than the American version. I enjoyed it a lot more because they all seemed to be very practical and considerate with their partners, even when disagreements came up.
@@aziababy5732 yea sometimes it's good to have that option, I like to watch foreign shows and sometimes will switch to the English dubs when I can't concentrate on reading....
I find that if they get voice actors of the same cultural background and have a similar accent it's much better. Alot of the time it's with a very strong American accent which is sometimes out of place.
Except the fact i had to focus and keep reading i loooooved the Japan version..their conversations were so deep and their use of words amazing. Loved it
One thing that always bothered me about the show is when asked why each person loves their partner they always answer with statements about how he or she reciprocates emotions. They say “he makes me feel safe” or “she makes me feel wanted”, never actual traits specific to their person. Just kinda screams of people who are in love with the idea of love.
It’s also “what can this person do for me” and not what you see in that person that you love ABOUT them. Like no one said “I love their passion for X activity” or “they’re very driven” or “I love their creativity and outgoing personality” etc. it was always qualities that self serve
I agree but i think this is people in general. I notice this off TV too.
Iyanna is my babes. I think Jarrett truly does have love for her but constantly saying what you love about her is her resilience??? As a black woman, that's scaryyy. I wish them the absolute best tho. I want it to work.
Right ??? My friend and I kept cringing every time he praised her for being “strong and resilient”. MAJOR RED FLAGS 🚩
@@itslonda4157 It could either go really well or he's about to put her through the ringer 🥴
His vows also had nothing to do with her. It was all about how she loves him, not about what he loves about her.
@@andreafeo6084 Another potentially worrying sign. It's so frustrating cause Iyanna deserves a guy who will go above and beyond to give her the world, and recognise who she is outside of how she loves him
This!!!!! I hated that he couldn’t come up with more than “she’s been through a lot and has been strong”. 🤦🏾♀️ I absolutely wish the best for them as well. Iyanna is such a kind, genuine down to earth soul 🥺
I agree with everything you said especially about how short the pods sections were! - weirdly I just watched Love Is Blind Japan and it fixes A LOT of problems from the US version - you see so many more genuine connections in the pods and you get much more of a sense of how long they have together and it’s so interesting… I felt like I was kind of half watching the US version but with LIB Japan I actually cried after the first episode which shocked me! I’d love it if you checked it out to compare :)
Girl did you watch this show multiple times or just take REALLY good notes the first time???? So impressed by this recap and as always love to hear your thoughts.
I don't think anyone could stand watching it multiple times tbh.
I thought sal was adorable and Mallory didn’t deserve him or jarette. Jarette and iyana are a great couple and still together, the quotes about them being thugs and not crying on their wedding day was so wild! They’re a really good fit
Jarette and iyanas wedding made me cry a bit especially when they both said the thugs don’t cry 😭
@@Colleen10119 like what are the odds?! They def were the strongest couple, it wasn’t forced or trying to convince themselves they were in love at all
Same i was on the floor when they both said that thugs don't cry. It was the cutest thing how they were on the same frequency even when they weren't in the same room 😭💕
Yes 👍🏼❤️
You should watch Love is Blind Japan, it almost feels like two different shows because their culture is so different.
Similarly Love is Blind: Brazil! With the same format across 3 cultures it highlights cultural similarities and differences in a cool way I’ve found!
@@eleanoreliz I really liked the Brazil version! One cultural difference was everyone looked like a model 😂
@@CL-jw4ei 🤣🤣right!!! Everyone was super attractive
I wasn’t sure about Mallory and Sal, until after the wedding. You could tell Sal was really upset and worried that he was hurting Mallory by saying no, and the way Mal comforted him even after she was the one who got “dumped at the alter”, you can tell in that moment how much they really care about one another. I hope they’re still together ❤️
bestie I hate to break it to you
I honestly don’t think they are a good match romantically. But yes they absolutely do care about each other as people.
We only saw what he did for her. Did she ever do anything for him?
I really liked them too but based on the reunion it sounds like they had a lot of problems that never made it on camera.
their relationship just seemed forced to me
I would love if they took away some of the alcohol (they offer it in every scene because reality tv) and offered counseling to the couples between the honeymoon and the wedding day would really be nice to make this more about genuine growth and human connection and less about drama.
7:52 "So if that sounds interesting to you and crazy... so if that sounds interesting to you uh... so that is the premise of the show, and if that sounds interesting to you..." 🤣
I keep replaying this in my head. Lol It’s so distracting when she misses an edit like this 😂
I feel like Shayna just wanted to be engaged so she could move forward to the next part of the show and try and win Shayne back. When she realized that she couldn’t do that however, she hyperflated the religion problem with Kyle so they’d break up. In my opinion, she never intended to marry Kyle in the first place, and used the religious aspect to cut and run. If she were soooo religious, why didn’t she bring up religion to Shayne? Because I know that man isn’t the most holy person in the world. And why does she have tattoos? Which normally wouldn’t be a big problem, but she made it seem like such a big ordeal that being religious was a core part of her personality, you’d think she was like a preachers daughter that follows every rule in the book. Anyways I think Shayna was wrong is all aspects of how she went about navigating this “experiment”.
Maybe it’s unconventional in some places, but I’ve had multiple pastors, youth group leaders, etc. with tattoos
Agreed
I agree in regards to what Shaina did. That’s what I was thinking. Bc Shane was always asking her in the pods what she was wearing and he would say how hot she was but then when she couldn’t have Shane and never said anything in regards about religion to him but to Kyle?? which to me kinda seemed to me hypocritical bc why is she willing to tell Shane what your wearing and when she didn’t get to have Shane but then it looked like she was settling with Kyle but with no intentions of actually willing to go through with it. Like she was more sexual towards with Shane than Kyle it was a completely different dynamic.
She definitely was more sexually flirtatious with Shane from the get go and probably that was her way to try and hook him but he saw something more serious and real and grounding in Natalie even though he was attracted to Shaina from all that energetic sexual flirting, imho
One thing I will say is the first season is so much more genuine, Lauren and Cameron are such a GOOD couple and watching season two I was really trying to see what couple would be the next Lauren and Cameron but season two and season one are very drastically different in the sense that it felt like the season two cast was not there for what the season one cast was there for, a genuine connection.
I feel like with Sal and Mal, you could just feel the show was too much for them. It seemed more like they would have needed to take it slow but were forced into rushing things. I agree the singing moments were so unbelievably cringe
Shayne had some of the most manic expressions I've ever seen. The way he would look at some people when he was upset was genuinely unsettling. There's speculation that he may be using/may have used drugs, but either way that was just a huge red flag.
This feels like I'm having a chat with a bestie and I love it. I have so many thoughts on this shows format. It could be a very interesting and viable concept for actual experiments and human interest but they rush it too much. I'd love to see a wider variety of people with extended time in the pod. Imagine talking to someone for two months without seeing them then the reveal is the girl is a hella emo and the boy is a Jock. Two people who'd be unlikely to talk in the real world making a legit emotional connection over a realistic time frame. Now that I wanna see.
Shayne annoyed the hell out of me immediately, I have no idea what Natalie was seeing and I was hoping the entire time that she'd see his true colors and not agree to that marriage. Also, I saw other people mention this in the comments but I cannot recommend enough watching Love Is Blind Japan. Having binged the first season of the US version when it dropped two years ago and eagerly waiting for this season since then, the Japanese version succeeds everywhere that this season failed for me and a lot of people. It was a lot more wholesome and heartfelt; the producers didn't edit things down for drama but rather went out of their way to let things breathe and give the little moments their space; and we got more episodes of everyone in the pods not only to show the dating but to show the men and women on their respective sides bonding with each other, genuinely supporting each other when things got emotional, and building long-lasting friendships, which the US version didn't show. Overall it showed more authenticity and vulnerability, and there are a lot of genuinely beautiful moments in that version.
Yes! My immediate reaction to love is blind: Japan was how much more authentic and real it felt, it was kind of a shock to keep going back to the original when they were both releasing episodes at the same time just because of the clear differences
Is everyone who doesn't understand Japanese just watching it with subtitles? Or is there a dubbed version I don't have access to?
@@chrissyd4279 yeah I always watch with subtitles
Love is blind Brazil is also very nice
To be honest I’m SO over dating shows so I only watched like 3 episodes before giving up. There is literally 100 different dating shows with different gimmicks, and I couldn’t care less about any of them, but I’ll listen to you rant about it. 🤣
right?!
EVERYONE PLEASE WATCH LOVE IS BLIND JAPAN. legit the emotional intelligence on that show had me bawling my eyes out
The reunion definitely showed that Shake's edit was wayyyyyyy nicer than it could have been too