Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: York to Peterborough (Valenta HST) // 50fps
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- In this next route learning video we take an Intercity HST in the early to mid 1990s from York to Peterborough along the ECML Modern route recently released by Creative Rail. We follow the real life timetable of train 1Y84, the 12:03 York to London Kings Cross service. Although the scenario is set in Intercity days, all trains are set to run to the current timetable.
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I'm going to miss the HST's and 91's on the ECML when the 800's come along. The 91's and HST's always felt like getting on a proper train, which can't be said for the more modern desiros, voyagers etc...
I believe that at the angled concrete does bridge between the Selby line junctions there was a serious accident, near Great Heck. A car driver fell asleep at the wheel, crossed agricultural land and ended up on the permanent way. He got out and tried to warn of the danger but in the meantime an oncoming passenger train collided with his vehicle and was derailed. A few moments later a freight train traveling in the opposite direction also ran into the wreckage. I can't recall the casualty figures, but they were significant. Subsequently a survey of over bridges was carried out and measures taken to prevent similar occurrences were taken.
I remember when that happened.
I'm not a rail enthusiast (aviation is my thing) but this is a great siimmulator!
Thanks for posting.
Turn it to 10x speed and the train moves at the start while it is being described
i love your videos!!!!!!!! i love it when there is a content about "all around the world"!!! i love when i watch this is makes me calm down and i can remember some memories like when i went to London Kings Cross to go to the airport to go to bermuda (bermuda is where i live)!!!!!! i wanna be a person in the video its just so exiting to watch!!!! when i step in my train station (york) i fell like I'm in a magical place!!!!! (btw i love love lovvveee travel so sorry if I'm a chatter mouth -_-) plz upload more ~Sayuri xoxoxo
1:13:41 the Mallard plaques dedicated to the steam speed record
Thanks for a great video, which looks so much better on the big TV screen. Nice to see home town Newark Northgate again after about 50 years or so. Keep up the good work 👍🇦🇺.
The skew border bridge as you leave York is the Holgate Road bridge. This bridge had to be lifted when the line was electrified, causing major road traffic disruption in the city.
The iron bridge, saw it being lifted, never seen so many rats!
I remember spotting these on the platforms at Kings X as a boy back in the day! Great video fella...keep em coming!
I remember spotting them at Newark and Grantham (I feel old now haha). And thank you, I appreciate it! :)
7,000 subscribers buddy, you did it! Been with you since 2.5K!
I know right, I can't believe I'm now up to 7k! Thank you for being with me for so long. I wonder who has been with me since the first month in November 2014? Hardly anyone watched these videos back then, I had a lot less confidence and didn't really know what I was doing. That all changed in a short space of time though, hitting 1k subs around 3-4 months later and then growing much quicker from there! :)
+PTGRail I'm sure if I discovered you that early, I would have stayed with you. It's also thanks to you that now when I am driving in the game, a lot of the time I don't use the HUD! :D Here's to 8K and climbing ;)
Another very good route learning video - thanks for all the effort and work you put into it.
+chris501 Thank you, I really appreciate it :)
The first bridge you go under as you head out of york is known locally as the Iron Bridge!
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that :)
if you ever want more info about the York area, including the old station feel free to give me a shout, I'm a born and bred York lass.
The Iron bridge is between Peterborough and Huntingdon.
+Trainandbusfan200 I think you misread my post. I'm talking about the first bridge you go under as you go south out of York station, it is known locally as the iron bridge.
Oh ok I am getting so confused about the two Iron bridges.
As usual Peter , Fantastic Video Content . Really enjoyed it .
Thank you Lee, I really appreciate it :)
It's a pleasure Peter, !!
Train Simulator should create the East Coast Mainline from King's Cross - Inverness from all different time periods.. not even to mention smaller things that connect with it, Lincoln Line, Lincoln, Hull, Skegness, Cleethorpes, etc.. Just a thought there!
Another astonishing video. Perfectly well explain as always. Enjoyable and exciting.
Thanks for uploading.
In your plans ahead if you could also do a scenario in the MML on a HST EMT. That'll be great. Many thanks.
Few extra bits and pieces: British Rail hired their first female train driver in 1983. Mallard did indeed reach 126mph in 1938 but aGerman electric train had already reached 130mph the previous year, so it wasn't the fastest a train had ever gone at the time. An Italian electric train also clocked 126mph in 1936, I should add! Also, as far as I'm aware the flashing green was not given an extra lamp on the signal head but was simply set up so that the existing green light would flash (rather similar to flashing single and double yellows).
I didn't know that it was 1983 when the first female driver was hired! I thought it may have been earlier. Female drivers today are still hard to find, but I do see them occasionally. My guess is that it's because driving trains as a job just doesn't appeal to women on the whole? I didn't know about the German electric train having already reached 130mph at that time. Indeed, the flashing green wasn't an extra lamp, it was just part of the normal green lamp. Maybe I worded it badly, but I was trying to say it was an extra signal aspect, not an extra light on the signal. I remember seeing the flashing green aspects when standing at Helpston level crossing just north of Peterborough around 5 or 6 years ago. I think it's only more recently they finally removed the flashing green aspect.
whilst you're right about the direction of the Retford low level platforms being Lincoln to the East and Worksop and Sheffield to the West, there IS a link between the ECML and there. just North of Platform 2 at Retford there is a curve that goes around and joins to the Lincoln/Sheffield line. it's very tight and 142 / 144 stock have been known to get stuck there. Some of the first and last Sheffield services of the day start on P2 and use this curve.
Why did they get rid of the Valenta engines? Brings back memories for me when I was a kid travelling on the HST with this my favourite livery from London down to Cardiff on School holidays to visit family. Loved the sound of them. Ear splitting when you were standing on the platform watching the train arrive or depart
This is an excellent overview as always. I wish there was a way to connect the Doncaster Works dlc to the ECML.
Thanks. I agree, it would be great if Doncaster works could be connected.
Sorry to post again, but I posted the last from memory and wasn't satisfied that my recall was correct. Having checked I am pleased to say that I was but some detail was lacking. There's a good report on Wikipedia not you want more detail. An interesting fact s that the combined speed of impact was estimated to be 142 mph, the highest recorded for a head on collision on rails in the UK. The car driver was prosecuted and sent to prison for 5 years for causing dear by dangerous driving.
at Retford the lower level platforms are indeed going to Lincoln and Sheffield and are currently operated by Northern (an ariva franchise)
stock 142 and 144 (unfortunately)
+Luke Hlozek The last time I remember changing trains at Retford was back in 1999 when I was heading to Lincoln with my parents. I'd have been 11 or 12 at the time, and they were using Pacers on the route to Lincoln back then too. I think the TOC at the time was Central Trains if I remember rightly.
+PTGRail wow thats a long time ago unfortunately I wasn't around back then so I wouldn't be able to tell you but anyway keep up the good work your videos are always a joy to watch.
Haha, I feel old now :p Thank you, I really appreciate it! There's plenty more videos on the way :)
7 to 8 coaches on every hst
corrections:
network rail set has 5 coaches
grand central set has 6 coaches
vtec set has 9 coaches
7 to 8 coaches sets are cross country (7), east midlands trains (8) and great western railway (8)
Not back in Intercity days when this video is set they didn't ;)
I'm disappointed, you haven't got any nodding donkeys (144's) running through the station at Doncaster!
hey its enaugh me having to travel there every morning on them old ratlers 😜
There were none in the timetable at the time I was travelling through. Plus in TS we have the 142 and 143, but currently lack a 144.
I guess it wouldn't be too hard to reskin a Class 143 into a 144, Don't know if there is much difference between them.
+PTGRail There is a Northern 144 reskin kicking around on www.greatbritishrailworks.co.uk I think or on Dropbox =)
um...ok??
-_-
I thought this game would be very very boring, You have a calm and informative approach enjoyed it. Can you recommend a good train and track for a new player?
Para Plays Depends on what you like :P
Good diesel route for the UK would be Riviera Line (Exeter to Paignton), comes with lovely scenery and a great little pacer. If you're more in to British commuter rail London - X would be good, I would probably say the Chatham Main Line. If you are just there for lots of track for relatively cheap get the Western Mainlines from www.justtrains.com . Its really well made, and has London Paddington - Bristol - Exeter/Cardiff, as well as the rural lines around Bristol (Bristol-Severn Beach is also on this channel) and the route to Oxford. If you want InterCity era trains get the WCMLN Carlisle to Glasgow, comes with a Class 86.
Great video as always Pete! This is my favourite train, I like the styling which still looks good today, 40 years after them coming into service.
As I understand it they were originally classed as 253s and 254s as they were seen as a complete train set.
Surprised you didn't go for a class 225 set though? :-)
So smooth and very pleasant to see the quality of your work.
PS: The speed limit restriction at 38:21 isn't too late to break? Or has each of the double yellow flashing signals you must imperatively reduce your speed?
Great video by the way
Hey I really like your video. You was right about the lower lines at Retford. Will you be able to do a video from or to Lincoln as
That will be a good one to do. Keep the good work going
Great vid!! The way you go about Newark is it near your home town? Tis’ mine and everything you mentioned was so accurate!
Are these routes purchased as a stand alone programme, or do they use a common platform like the old Microsoft Train Simulator did when running the various add-ones?
the slow service is operated by southern
While yes, 50fps footage is, for the most part, a lot smoother than 30fps, most monitors are 60hz (60fps) and because 60 does not divide easily into 50, 50fps footage can look a bit jarring at times as they remain on the screen for an uneven amount of time per frame, so 60fps is much better where possible. But I understand this was beyond your control and constant frame drops would have a worse effect. Nice video as usual in lots of detail :D
(Just a computer nerd passing through)
Thanks for the info there, I honestly had no idea about 50fps potentially making the video look slightly jarring. I will bear that in mind for future videos. Indeed, when I tried to record this at 60fps I struggled to get a stable frame rate even more than at 50fps - even though when not recording I was getting an average 90 to 120fps! Thanks for your comment :)
PTGRail What recording software do you use? If you have an Nvidia graphics card you can get ShadowPlay which is a very good recorder and hardly impacts framerate at all on most games. Also I appreciate the reply :D
Great video, nothing beats a Valenta HST for me really! While not strictly pertinent to your video, I have been wondering whether or not the physics of the Train Simulator HST model are accurate compared to real life. I found that while stopping distance is pretty much correct (125mph to a stand in 1,930 yards with full service brake application, compared to 2,200 yards for older loco-hauled trains with tread brakes from just 100mph, hence why HSTs can run faster on some stretches of track compared to other trains), the acceleration is way off. An HST should reach 100mph from a stand in 3 mins 15, and 125mph in a further 4 mins (7 mins 15 seconds overall). The TS HST takes a frankly ridiculous 10 mins 30 a full 3 and a quarter minutes too long to reach 125mph. So here's hoping someone fixes the HST so it's possible to reach 125mph without running out of track!!! Also, I don't know if you are aware, but the set you were driving was labelled as a Class 254 on the front, until the mid-80s the HSTs were considered DMUs with the 2+7 Western Region sets classified Class 253 and the 2+8 Eastern and Scottish Region sets Classified Class 254. The HSTs were later reclassified as loco-hauled trains with Mk3 coaches and Class 43 locomotives but the HST Mk3s are still referred to as trailer cars. The sets were originally formed as Class 253: DMB-TF-TF-TRUB-TS-TS-TS-TS-DMB and Class 254: DMB-TF-TF-TRUK-TS-TS-TRSB-TS-TS-DMB. After complaints from guards about riding in the rear power car one TS in each set was replaced by a new-build TGS and the extra TS vehicles were used for spares and to lengthen some sets. By the early 1980s there was no longer a requirement for two catering vehicles in the ECML sets and so the TRUKs were removed and converted to Loco-hauled Mk3 catering vehicles (RFM). The remaing catering vehicles in both ECML and GWML sets were fitted with First Class seating and an extra TS was added to the GWML sets. Cross-country and Midland Mainline routes were given HST services by 1982 with Inverness being served from 1983.
That Valenta scream! I loved the sound of these engines, it really is so nostalgic and brings back so many childhood memories. I'm not entirely sure the physics are correct. It really does take forever to get to 125mph! But at the same time, when driving on the Western Mainlines route I can achieve 122mph by West Drayton when heading out of London - in real life we hit 125mph at that point, so it didn't seem too far from accurate. I was indeed aware that the HSTs used to be considered DMUs, and it was only when they were reclassified as locos that they became Class 43s.
Another super video, ptgrail. The hst paxman valenta in swallow livery is a favourite. Would you be able to do a York to Peterborough non stop thrash. Better still to London K Cross?
+Robert Turner Thanks Robert, I'm glad that you enjoyed this video. I won't be making any more videos on this section of the route for the foreseeable future, but I do plan on covering the Edinburgh to Newcastle and Newcastle to York sections in the coming months :)
Good video
Just out of pure curiosity, where are the HST's used? All over England or just in certain areas like on this route? I also notice the HST accelerates very slowly :P. Gives the passengers a smooth ride at least.
East coast mainline, Midland Mainline, Great Western Mainline and Cross Country Route.
Not just England. They operate in Scotland as afar North as Inverness and in Wales, certainly as far as Swansea, I'm not sure if they still go as far as Fishguard, they did until fairly recently.
Aidankiwi Also as far west as Penzance.
+Patrick Donnolley Yes I was aware of that but I was pointing out to 1Popsicle1RBLX that the HSTs operated outside of England.
purchased this route off the back of this video! :) would you know of any scenarios available for this route? that sport modern day operations /liverys? qd is great but there's so many intercity 91's/43's (never usually a problem, just for the purpose of realism), another great upload :)
I hope you enjoy driving this route! I'm not sure where to download scenarios for it, unfortunately.
when i go from Peterborough, and in York i choose any incoming platform, always happens to the blue line on the map indicates the direction of Selby. This is quick drive, because there are no scenarios in Standrard and Career.
Hi PTG Rail. I was just wondering how demanding TS is. What is the cheapest I am looking at for a pre-built PC good enough to run this?
Excellent video! Like yourself,Newark Northgate holds some fond memories from my youth also and I've travelled this section of The ECML many times.Could you (or anyone else for that matter) advise me as to what kind of system I would need to able to run Train Sim,please? I've been in the market for a new laptop for some time and if I'm going to do it then I'd like it to have the necessary abilities.Many thanks!
Doncaster station looks jist how it should
great vid as always I have often wondered is there a correct way to sound the horn i.e. low tone to high tone or high tone to low tone or is it a driver preference?I notice you used both ways when sounding the horn
High low I think but since de regulations of train horn can be either.
When where the HSTs reclassified from Class 254 to Class 43?
Sometime in the early 1990s I think. The HSTs were originally classified 253 and 254. Class 253 was the designation for the Western Region sets (the Class number was applied to the entire set as the were regarded as multiple units at that time as opposed to separate locomotives) and Class 254 for the Eastern Region and Cross country sets. Some of the Eastern Region sets were in fact allocated to Craigentinny depot in Edinburgh, which of course was in BR's Scottish Region. Originally there was no Midland Mainline allocation.
There's photo of two HSTs side by side with same unit no's. Which is why changed to loco numbers.
May I just ask, if you are going to use an Intercity HST, why not just buy the British Rail era version fo this route? Otherwise it just looks odd, this would have been perfect done with that Virgin '100 years of Craigentinny' HST Power Car repaint maybe available from Bluecode set in 2015/2016.
I have the BR era version of this route and made a video on it in the Deltic. That route was set in the 1970s/1980s before electrification of the building of the Selby cutoff. This route could also be a BR era version as electrification was completed around 1989/1990, a whole five years before privatisation. This is why the Class 91 appeared in Intercity livery. This route looked just like this when I was a kid, so there's nothing odd looking about this scenario to me. It's barely changed in the last 25 years! :)
True, and not very common to see this style. Many prefer using non electrified BR era routes when using BR era stock. Nice to see something different and focusing on a different time frame.
How fast can you pass Grantham at speed (following real speed limits)
The title says train simulator 2015, you might want to change it :) anyways good video!
+HowToCameron no it doesn't?
+Josh Fowler It did when he wrote this comment. I changed it immediately when I saw the comment, but didn't have time to reply to his comment at that moment :p
+HowToCameron And thanks :)
PTGRail that makes so much sense! i was confused for a moment then haha
+PTGRail could you do a video on the newly released Chatham mainline if you have a chance to get it. Preferably a service between Gillingham and London Victoria.
What are your settings at as I get high FPS but would love nice graphics could you help me out
why is this route listed as available soon on the website?
it is 9 coaches for ecml and 7 or 8 coach hst's for gwml
They only recently became 9 coaches when GNER refurbished their units, they also either took apart one or two sets to extend all the others or bought spare coaches that were not in use (there was a lot that was formerly used, especially after HSTs were taken off the Virgin West coast and Virgin Cross Country routes)
callumgaminghd XC hst's are 7 coaches
Great video. will this work for TS 2017?
It certainly will as TS 2017 is the same game as all the previous iterations of TS.
if i purchase this can i join it up with my other ECML add ons (
Kings cross - Peterborough
York - Newcastle
Newcastle - Edinburgh )
Dayl Cunnignham Probably not since they will have different origin points making it very hard and since Train Sim is only 32 bit, it can't handle more than about 130-140 miles of track with scenery, and that's without too much detail
I downloaded the route but none of the assets work
What speed can trains drive at when passing Grantham station at high speed?
I believe the expresses can go 115mph
A bit disappointed with the scenery setup around Peterborough compared to ECML peterborough to kings cross. Otherwise the video was entertaining and informative as usual.
I was doing this route yesterday and I was on the same line as u etc and for some reason my train just carried going on forward
What setting do I use to make my point of view like yours .
I have downloaded and purchased this route but I don't know how to install it :( !?? And it didn't have instructions on how to install it either !
I believe this route comes as a .rwp file? In which case, if you watch the first part of this tutorial then it tells you how to install them :)
czcams.com/video/pNyu9m3FoEo/video.html
When are you going upload some more videos.
Does this route come/connect with the Lincoln line, and the Hull line?
Just South of York there is a divergance off to Selby on to Hull And I believe another one to Lincoln further down.
What are your pc specifications?
i live in york
i want to second part to london kings cross service
I've made a video to Kings Cross on this channel already :)
How about cromer
Could’ve recreated the Southall crash
Just kidding
what a funny joke, where 7 people got killed and many have life changing injuries! good joke mate, laughed so hard
To be on is't i like this video cuz you whent to retford cuz i live there
Downloaded this but having real trouble installing it even unzipping the folder any help anyone +pgtrail
+K1ZZA87 The zipped download should contain a .RWP file. If you follow the very first part of my reskin installation tutorial and ignore the rest of the video, it tells you how to install .RWP files :)
Do one that goes to leicester
Unfortunately, Leicester isn't currently simulated in Train Simulator.
Class 254?
Lol class 43 still faster than class 390
I hate predictive text!
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I hate spell
You sound like moleman
Haha, that's the first time someone has compared me to moleman. His commentary is a lot livelier than mine! XD
+PTGRail can you please do the Trent valley train route learning!
+PTGRail for ts15