Obligatory bean balls are what wrong with Baseball. No other sport has an obligatory maim the other guy play. At least in MMA you can tap out before the maiming.
The announcers are clowns for saying throwing him out was bad call when he threw at him twice. Its not "feel for the game" its one guy accidentally hit catcher, the pitcher intentionally hit the batter after the batter and catcher handled the situation man to man.
Accident or not, the batters NEED to control their swing n miss follow thru. Zero excuses- MLB needs to implement an automatic ejection and I guarantee you won’t see these incidents again
@Jbrzy805 may be a warning but not an automatic ejection, especially because it was also brought up some catchers set up closer than they should, so you can't make an auto ejection in every case. It's ridiculous. I guess hitting a player with a pitch should be an automatic ejection regardless of it being an accident. Before you say it, the reason this video comes across like the pitcher was automatic ejection is because this video conveniently leaves out that the pitcher threw a pitch at the batter prior to the hit by pitch and missed so he attempted twice, hit once, which was why ump knew there was no doubt of intent and had every right to eject the pitcher after throwing at a player twice.
Or Happ did care, but isn't one to start a fight when the umps are taking care of the issue. John Tumpane, the home plate ump, is probably the best ump in baseball, and the fact that he was able to nip this shit in the bud so quickly and decisively is a testament to that. Oh, and Mikolas is a Charmin soft sociopath, he definitely did that shit on purpose and deserved to be run.
Likely didn’t care, could’ve gone either way. Catcher hugged it out after so if there was no revenge pitch I don’t think anyone would’ve bat an eye. There was a revenge pitch and it’s one of those things 25+ years ago everyone would’ve known it was coming. But nowadays, it’s a little surprising but tbh could have been expected.
@@PhilLongley he's an idiot because the catcher and batter already handled it amicably. Now he gets himself ejected for a non-issue that wasn't even really the batters fault to begin with
No, this was a Soft Toss at a Soft Target. It was an obligatory "gotta hit you" rather than throwing at his head trying to hurt him. This is acceptable... shouldn't have been ejected, especially with no warnings.
@@maizeman90You don't know the rules of Baseball. The Pitcher HAD to hit him, and chose to do it a lot nicer than anyone else. Soft Pitch to the Butt rather than a Cutting Fastball to the Face or Liver like most pitchers do.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 I'm aware of the unspoken rules. And many of times they are completely stupid. I'd agree with you had the catcher and batter not quashed things already. The injury wasn't even the batters fault. There is no obligatory need to hit the batter. Yes, it was a soft toss. It's still stupid and he threw at the batter on the previous pitch and missed. I've not seen the pitch so idk if he was warned then. Dumb to risk rejection on a resolved issue
You'd be totally right... if it was called for. Catchers, including Contreras, have been creeping forward to better frame pitches, and have been getting hit more often because of this. The hitter and he hugged it out, said their sorrys and moved on, the pitcher didn't and needlessly re-escalated the issue.
@Kanthalas Youre.probably right that it wasn't really called for. But it's still a good "pay back" pitch regardless of if it was warranted. Better than headhunting a guy or risking serious injury.
@@parkerjones3019. They didn’t win a World Series together. Ian Happ made his debut in 2017 (the season after the WS). Also, that obviously wasn’t on purpose.
Pitcher didn't even throw hard, and the bater knew it was coming. That's right!!! The umps should have a better feel the game. The players took care of the situation.
Maybe the catchers should stop creeping so close to the goddamn plate to try and frame shitty pitches. Also the batter and catcher resolved it. The pitcher just made himself look like a child.
Catcher is actually in the right spot. Batter's left foot was outside of the batter's box. This was a mistake by the hitter (and ump for not telling the batter to move up). But, all of this looked like an accident and the hitter looked genuinely sorry. But, yes, you do make a solid point that a number of catchers do creep too close. This wasn't one of those cases, though. And, yes, I agree with your point in general- it was an accident and the dude was sorry. No need to 'send a message' at this point.
He hit him with the bat and apologized and they hugged and walked away. Should’ve been over with. So I 100% agree with the umps to straight up eject him without a warning. Pitcher taking things too far.
Like this is one of the few times I’ve seen players make up and apologize on the field. And then the pitcher does this. I’m not blaming everything on the pitcher cause the really awful thing is that the pitcher is expected to do that and would be scorned for not doing that. Product of the shitty part of baseball culture. Props to happ and Contreras
@@Tommy-Tom-Tom you're on the right path, but strayed a bit too far. You can prove intent in court of law with either direct or circumstantial evidence. It's not an easy feat all the time, but it is something that can be proven
Well this was so obviously intentional it’s not even funny literally the first pitch after happ hit Contreras the ball was way in and happ got out of the way and then the very next pitch hit him. They threw at him twice and it was so obvious that they had to throw him out. Umps made the right decision. If he hit him on the first pitch maybe they would have let it go but 2 pitches in a row they need to throw him out
@@billnyethesciencedenier1516 He first threw a fast ball at this head. The video doesn't show that. And these unwritten rules are stupid. They only protect the feelings of the crybaby pitchers. Glad more and more hitters are breaking these "unwritten" rules.
Even the Cardinals were waving their pitcher back to the dugout. That's when the announcers changed their tone. The announcers are the ones that need the feel of baseball. The feel of the game.
You have to know the background of this. I saw the game because I am a Cubs fan. Mikolas had no reason to do this because Happ would never purposefully hit Contreras. They used to be teammates and good friends and you could see the expression on his face when he hit him. Mikolas shouldn’t have been ejected but there was no reason to do that and he should have known that.
Without ejections, it just becomes a constant cycle of “getting revenge” for their guy. The problem is these feuds don’t even last just a series. Warnings might stop that, but then it just turns into getting revenge months in the future, which just fans the flames again.
Pitcher was a dumbass for “sending a message” that didn’t need to be sent. (and he did a pisspoor job needing two attempts to hit Happ) Happ didn’t backswing on purpose to hit his friend and former teammate.
@@JohnJohn-wr1jo as a professional player you should be able to determine what is a bad play from the coach/bench. Who’s ever choice it was, it was a hard R pansy decision to do. In no way did this require any retaliation… dumb stuff
@@grimsolace4433nah bruh that dude deserved to get hit. U can control ur backswing to not possible give a player a concussion. Also getting hit by a pitch although it definitely hurts ain’t nearly as bad as a possible concussion.
I played catcher as a kid. I was told it was MY responsibility to see to it I was clear of a follow through, the batter has every right to swing away unhindered. Pitch was unprofessional!
A little context for the ones who aren't too familiar with this: Happ & Contreras were former teammates. As recent as last season. There was no ill intent, hence the hug. Then what the clip doesn't show, the pitch prior to this one, is Mikolas aiming for his head and missing. And then follows up with this pitch to the butt.
@@GreasyBeastyeven without the prior pitch he should have been ejected with no warning. Clearly immediately retaliating with hitting a batter intentionally is grounds for ejection. Should be an automatic suspension too but the mlb is too weak knee’d for that.
idk dude, when you play at that level, small "mistakes" are most of the time, intentional! I mean, he knocked out a guy from the field on an accident? F that, these guys know exactly what they are doing.
Pitcher didn’t appreciate the negligence, just saw his guy get hit in the head with a bat, hits dude in hip to let them know they don’t accept that, could be worse next time. they probably don’t do that again in fear of a fastball coming at their head next time. Yes escalated it, but maybe other team gets the point to not do that again. Ejection is kinda weak since there was no warnings and he hit him in a respectable spot
@@xXxFroztyy “hit him in a respectable spot” there was no reason to hit him in the first place when both players resolved the issue on their own. Guy came in full hot with his ego higher than the stadium. It would be like two people getting into a fist fight, then hugging it out and making up and then some random friend socking the guy in the face. Absolutely pointless. And good on the umpire for making it clear that behavior is not tolerated. Ps you are someone to stay away from.
I bet you're the type that won't help a friend in a fist fight because it's against the rules or something. Don't wanna get in trouble with mommy, it's okay little boy.
I feel the players handled that with complete respect. Batter knew what he did, he was calm and I’m sure “sorry” pitcher gave him an easy one in the side batter acknowledged it and took his base WIThOUt COMPLAINT. This is programming for the players and the masses.
You can hear the announcers mention him doing that. Mikolas tried, but threw the fastball slightly low and Happ dodged it. So Mikolas decided to aim center mass on the next throw to hit Happ.
Well deliberately pitching at someone is always a PoS move... panned out exactly as it should when you Deliberately try to hurt someone. Baseball is a game, not a battle.
Fucking stupid thing to do either way. Costing your team potentially all for the sake of pettiness and getting back. It does absolutely fuck all especially if it all stemmed from an accident.
Happ and Contreras were teammates. There was no ill feelings between the two. There was no need to “send a message” to Happ. Pitcher deserves to be ejected.
So did Happ for nearly killing the catcher with an unintentional but totally unnecessary showboat swing. When Happ didn't get ejected, he HAD to be plunked to let him know to have some bat discipline and don't kill our catcher you weak punk. THAT is baseball.
Happ needs to fix his swing. You don’t just get to hit people in the head because you have a quirky swing. The hit by pitch was sending a message that he needs to fix it or he’ll keep getting hit.
@@TheClaw1536 "happ needs to fix his swing" spoken by somebody whos never been paid to swing a bat in their life, you dont mess with the swing that made you rich. you mong.
That one-handed follow-through should be illegal and cause an immediate rejection, even without contact being made. There's no reason for it except to 'accidentally' bean the catcher. That said, awarding the batter with a free single seems counter-productive.
As a St. Louis fan, Mikolas should be focusing on throwing a damn strike before throwing at a batter that literally just hugged it out with Contreras. Stupid move. He’s been awful this season.
@@keith3915 dude you throw it at someone’s ass to keep it from hurting them. It’s the most meaty area other than maybe our thighs. He threw it on purpose😂😂
I am old school in most cases, but what happened at the plate was a complete accident. There was no malice involved, and they even embraced as the guy was going to the dugout. There was no reason to bean him. The pitcher deserved to get thrown out for that stupidity.
If its an “accident” thats a result of being lazy on controlling his backswing. The catcher was being a professional, the pitcher sent the message that batters can control their bat or get plunked. How was there no reason if it discourages batters from hitting the catcher?
Good...they should have thrown him out and fined him 💯 any pitcher that purposely hits a batter with a pitch should be suspended and fined 😒 how unprofessional.
After review, I place blame on the batter. He was behind the box. However, there appears to be no applicable penalty (except getting thrown at by the pitcher's discretion). It's particularly noticeable on the profile/side shot on the replay. Rules 5.04(b)(5), 6.03(a)(1):"When the batter assumes a batting stance in the batter’s box, he shall have both feet entirely within the batter’s box; i.e., no part of either foot may extend beyond the outer edge of the lines defining the box when the batter assumes a position in the box. There is no penalty specified for violation other than the batter shall be instructed to stay within the batter’s box if brought to the attention of the umpire..."
@@traphousemusic1880How did he deserve it when it was an accident. He wasn't looking back trying to intentionally clock the catcher, but the pitcher did throw two revenge pitches
@@jeremyweems4916is that a joke? It was accidental contact and they bro-hugged. The catcher could shrugged off Happ, but he didn’t. Doesn’t mean that the pitcher gets a free toss at Happ.
Who's this announcer who's says " Have a little feel for baseball." ? One was unintentional the other wasn't. I don't care what anyone says, throwing at people is not, or shouldn't be, part of the game. Be a grown up and throw the ball over the plate.
...and the batter knew he had it coming and took it. He didn't beam his head. Same concept as fights in hockey. Players can check each other to make sure they are more mindful in the future.
@@nofurtherwest3474probably an accident this time, but there are a few guys who do it completely on purpose. It hasnt been a real issue until more recently
I find the whole situation hilarious. Cubs batter Ian Happ inadvertently hit Cardinals catcher and former Cub Wilson Contreras with the backswing (follow through, really), leading to Contreras leaving the game (the guy who came in for him actually hit two homers this game to account for the Cardinals 3 runs), and the two embraced afterwards as a sign of friendship and to indicate that it was a clear accident and no animosity was felt. Cardinals pitcher Miles Mikolas, however, throws his next two pitches at Happ (the first one isn’t shown here, but it was high and inside at Happ) in retaliation (of an accident, mind you). Afterwards, the umpires got together, deemed Mikolas threw at Happ intentionally both times, leading to Mikolas’s ejection to the shock of Cardinals fans and ONLY Cardinals fans. Mikolas then starts yelling at the Cubs dugout (for some reason) while the Cubs are just laughing at the whole situation. Cardinals manager Olly Marmol was also ejected shortly afterwards for arguing with the umpire over the incident. The best part? Ian Happ scored later in the inning on a bases loaded walk, meaning Mikolas got charged with a run. The Cubs would score twice more in the inning on a two-run double by Christopher Morel (I should probably mention that this entire sequence - starting with Happ’s at-bat - happened with two outs in the inning). The Cubs never gave up the lead in a 10-3 victory, meaning Mikolas got charged with the loss despite getting thrown out 3 batters into the game.
Announcers: they don’t need to issue warnings, if they feel it’s intentional they can throw them out Also announcers when it’s their team: HAVE A LITTLE FEEL FOR THE GAME
Why not throw Happ out for the dangerous, showboating swing? Zero reason to EVER let the bat fly like that and he could kill the catcher doing that. Since the umpires didn't have the balls to eject Happ to send the message that you can't swing like that, the pitcher did EXACTLY the right thing. In the old days, Bob Gibson would have beaned Happ for an undisciplined dangerous bat to the head of his catcher, unintentional or not.
@@UnderwaterAlexJones I would have no problem with Gibson being run but Happ would think twice about the reckless follow through in the future. Problem solved. Players that don't protect their teammates are cowards and get traded, as they should. If Happ doesn't want to get hit, then have some bat discipline and don't endanger other players with your showboat swing. Finally, I have NOTHING to do with MLB rules or their enforcement. I am just offering an opinion of a fan of the game since the 1960's. Don't wet your diaper over my opinion. Opinions are just like butt holes, everyone has one and most of them stink.
@worlddevourer7740 you’re wrong and there is no such thing as a showboat swing. Happ has been using that follow through swing his entire career. The cardinals announcers are boneheads and so is anyone who thinks that Happ should’ve gotten ejected for something that was accidental.
Catcher sets up too close, gets hit in the head. Pitcher needs two shots to hit a guy. Gets ejected for throwing a baseball at a batter, announcers freak out for some reason.
@@JonEslickthere also has been a trend recently where the catchers have been getting their hands hurt from (and get this) BEING TO CLOSE to the batter's batting zone
@JonEslick the catchers moved up to gather more strikes due to the glove being directly in the swing path. That's why umps are calling more bad balls/strikes. The catcher is in fact too close especially as the batter looks to be set at the backside of the batters box.
@@lpdb1995 you realize one of man's first weapons was a club right? Idc how unlikely it is the batter smacked the catcher with a bat. I mean people still use baseball bats as weapons to this day
Yeah but this is happening too much. Batters need to knock it off. I agree with the ejection but only because you already threw at him once. Throwing at him twice earns an ejection.
Theres SOOOOO much back story between the hitter Ian Happ and catcher Wilson Contreras thats not mentioned in this video, and knowing it makes what the pitcher did just SOOO much more pathetic. To put the full story as short as possible...these 2 were teammates for their entire professional career (Contreras was already on the Cubs a few years before Happ made it up.) The year before, the Cubs were doing so poorly both of them were viewed as the Cubs biggest trade chips approaching the trade deadline and literally everyone who really follows baseball expected both to be gone that July. Both were given standing ovations in what was believed to be their final home game as a Cub. Both were very emotional and waved goodbye to fans and left the field together. Theres a dozen interviews with the 2 as their expected final days as Cubs got closer and closer. August 1st comes around and unbelievably both were still on the team. Fast forward to that off season. Happ signed an extension for the Cubs, Contreras hit free agency and signed with the Cardinals. Barely a few months after that, this episode happens. And it's not like Mikolas didn't know at least some of the history between the 2. The Cubs and Cardinals are to each other as the Yankees are to the Red Sox. And the poetic justice ever happened in this game...Happ takes 1st base and would end up scoring a run that inning and because Mikolas was responsible for Happ reaching base, his run was charged to Mikolas...the Cubs would eventually go on to win the game. And Mikolas, who had only thrown like 5 pitches was ultimately charged with the loss of the game. And 1 thing not shown in this clip...Mikolas's 1st pitch after everything happened was a 94 mph that nearly hit Happ in the head. It was his 2nd pitch that hit Happ. Mikolas would go on to claim the ball just "slipped" out of his hand the 1st time. It was fucking beautiful.
I know it’s hard to imagine that something happened outside of the 20 seconds you saw of the game. But to all of the people bitching about how the pitcher shouldn’t have been ejected, the hit you saw was his second time hitting the batter within two pitches. There has been a growing problem with catchers trying to make umpires think that a ball is actually a strike by quickly moving their glove into the strike zone after making a catch, which they do by getting incredibly close to the batter so it’s harder for the umpire to see what’s going on. This is simply another example of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Stop acting like it’s some huge event. It does not matter
You sound like you know absolutely nothing about baseball. Catchers have been "framing" pitches since the begging of the sport. It didn't just start happening all of a sudden.
@@FORDultra never said it was sudden, just that it’s progressively getting worse. I’m no baseball enthusiast, but I do know that standing closer to the batter is a strategy that invites getting hit. That’s not baseball knowledge, it’s just common sense
@@dianeschmidt6367if your bias is more important than someone trying to intentionally injure someone who accidentally injured another player, I have no respect for you. I'm glad umpires aren't taking as much shit anymore in regards to intentionally hit batters, because pitchers are just being crybabies and using it whenever they think fit.
It was the first inning, and no warning was given after the previous pitch was thrown at his head. Then he hits him in the hip with a low velocity fastball and gets ejected. That's where the complaint was made. Umpires need to keep the game in context. Unless a starting pitcher kills a guy, you don't toss him in the first inning.
Regardless if the catcher set up too close, the batter still apologized and they all good. Umpires made the right call in ejecting the pitcher on the next pitch.
Umpires need to enforce that batters stay inside the batters box. The batter it standing with his whole back foot over the line and outside of the box. The catcher is well inside his own space. It's not the catcher's job to accommodate the batter because he feels too confined by the rules.
Yeah they were pretty dumb about it. One of them saying "get a feel for the game" is just plain wrong. Baseball has so many stupid unwritten rules about nonsense like this. It was an accident, and the batter didn't mean to do it and apologized. No need to throw at his head or even at him in general. Well deserved ejection.
The announcer was right, though. The pitcher had no choice but to take up for his catcher. It didn’t matter if it was intentional, or if the batter said he was sorry and gave the guy a hug. The pitcher knew he had a responsibility to his teammates, and he did his job. Everyone on both teams understood this, and no one had any problem with it, including the batter. It wasn’t even a big deal, whatsoever. Then, of course, for no good reason, the umpires decided to make it one. That’s why he said they need to get a feel for the game, and he was obviously right.
@@chriswebster24he has the responsibility to smack the next batter with a ball due to accidental contact? I swear I played baseball for years but y’all are fuckin mad. Such a bad culture…
Cause and effect. There is a video out there explaining that in an effort by the catchers to frame more pitches as strikes they're moving closer to the plate to make that effort easier. The problem is, it puts them in range of this type of back swing. So the only way this stops is for the batters to stop that much of a back swing or the catchers to give back that space. So get ready for more vids like this.
If you can't control your bat, you should be ejected like a high stick in😊 hockey. He hit him in the hip, and it didn't injure the player. Now the Cardinals are put two players, not the right call.
@@kevingeier3385 players run into each other all the time on the basepaths. you want to start ejecting every player that unintentionally comes into contact with an opponent? and you forget the whole point of pitchers purposely beaning batters. this was absolutely the wrong time to do it.
@@michaelweston2285 If the coaches and umpires refuse to keep batters in the box, so the swing of the bat (just as controllable as a pitch, by the way!) does not hit the catcher, then they have no business ejecting the pitcher. We all know that this problem of catchers getting hit by the bat has been going on way too much this season! It's time for the umps to do their job.
It was a puffcake beanball that was low and slow. The batter understood that retaliation is part of the game. It would have been another thing if the ball was fast and high. Back in the day the pitchers were not hesitant to go high and outside to batters crowding the plate.
@@user-sn1se8kh7zany intentional hit should be an automatic ejection. This was the most obvious intentional hit ever. There isn’t always time to react and escape a pitch and getting hit by a pitch can end a career.
Number one rule in batting is to keep both hands on the bat. You lose power in the swing. I learned that in little league. The bat isnt a weapon? And the catcher got hit in the head vs a ball to the butt. All the pitchers call the pitches, so it wasnt even him making that call. The batter has control of what happens in the swing. Plus this swing to the catchers has been goin on more often this season than ever.
Contreras caused this issue. He sets up closer to the plate to try to frame the pitch. That was a normal follow through on Happ’s swing. This has been a worsening issue since last season.
Gotta disagree on that. First angle isn't great, but it certainly looks like batter's foot is on or over the back barrier of the batter's box that of course has been rubbed out. Second angle looks pretty clear that catcher's glove is behind the same line. Been far too long the first batters up have been allowed to rub out that line. Catchers are getting hurt as a result.
It's how Contreras got his arm fractured. He even said he's gonna keep setting up that close to the plate when he comes back because framing is part of the game now. It's why he wasn't upset with Happ here. The ridiculous part here is the Cardinals retaliating because they know where their catchers are setting up. This wasn't something to retaliate against.
Should just be you leave 2 hands on the bat. If not, you can take a hand off, but if you make contact with the catcher it is an automatic end of inning
I agree, I was actually at this game and before I thought it could have maybe been Happ’s fault, but then a few weeks ago J.D Martinez hit Contreras with his bat and broke his arm. Contreras is told to move closer to the plate so he can frame pitches easier and fool the umpires
Batter was in control of his swing. He didn't "accidentally" swing his bat. You're 100% incorrect. The pitcher released the ball and uncontrollable factors steered the ball.
If you haven't noticed there is a lot of batters that are hitting catchers with their swings. They know damn well they are doing it and haven't changed shit. If the pitcher can control a pitch, the batter can control the fucking bat. You don't know shit.
Ancient storm years about 12 years old I can tell that so I’m not going to hurt your feelings too badly but if you watch the video of the batter slipped his wrist and then he hit the catcher in the head. The picture purposely threw the ball at his balls. If you watch the video is the battery didn’t move it was going straight for his balls so once again, Child stop acting like you know what happened because at the end of the day you’re about 12 years old and you’ve never played baseball in your life.
I see all these comments saying the pitcher is acting like a child. I guarantee the batter knew what was going to happen. If a catcher is directly injured in anyway from another player, that player will be getting thrown at by the pitcher. If the batter didn’t know he wouldn’t have taken the hit. It’s a rule. The fact they threw him out over it implies the umpires believed he would throw at other players relating to the incident which is why the announcers freaked the fuck out.😊
@@wakawaka1976this is like a middle school level argument going on right here. Happ and Contreras are probably friends so I don’t see how an accident warrants intentional harm in any way.
@@wakawaka1976You keep offering up examples that don't reflect this situation and are not good parallels. Punishment could or should be handed out by major league in the form of a fine or suspension if there are repeat offences. They can not allow retribution by throwing at a player intentionally. This has occurred several times this year and it needs to be addressed, but not with more potentiona harm.
Most accurate pitch Miles Mikolas has thrown all season
As a cardinal fan, I can confirm this is true.
He threw a complete game shutout with like 12k’s about a month ago, you two are dumb asf🤡🤡
So true
Very true
still took 2 tries to hit him😭
The batter and catcher handled it better than everyone else, including the announcers.
Agreed, the hug was especially great showing they both understood it was an accident. From that point forward everyone failed.
The announcers weren’t wrong.
@@YS-pb5ncthey were wrong. This has always been stupid. Its time for it to end.
@@ross-carlsonthey were teammates
Sounds like you’re a Cubs fan lol
I’ve never seen a nicer, softer, well placed bean ball. It was completely obligatory.
"I didn't want to do it, but my team was very insistent."
His first pitch was at his head and he barely missed. Pitcher had it coming.
Fué muyyyyy barato el pelotazo
Obligatory bean balls are what wrong with Baseball. No other sport has an obligatory maim the other guy play. At least in MMA you can tap out before the maiming.
@@RageDaugyou mean like hockey? They don’t eject you. You get a timeout. Like preschool.
The announcers are clowns for saying throwing him out was bad call when he threw at him twice. Its not "feel for the game" its one guy accidentally hit catcher, the pitcher intentionally hit the batter after the batter and catcher handled the situation man to man.
Accident or not, the batters NEED to control their swing n miss follow thru. Zero excuses- MLB needs to implement an automatic ejection and I guarantee you won’t see these incidents again
@Jbrzy805 may be a warning but not an automatic ejection, especially because
it was also brought up some catchers set up closer than they should, so you can't make an auto ejection in every case. It's ridiculous. I guess hitting a player with a pitch should be an automatic ejection regardless of it being an accident. Before you say it, the reason this video comes across like the pitcher was automatic ejection is because this video conveniently leaves out that the pitcher threw a pitch at the batter prior to the hit by pitch and missed so he attempted twice, hit once, which was why ump knew there was no doubt of intent and had every right to eject the pitcher after throwing at a player twice.
Found the Cards fan lmao
@claytonlatone8959 phillies fan, actually....though If I was a cards fan, wouldn't I have the exact opposite opinion if I was biased?
@@Jbrzy805 I agree, you still have to be careful with your back swing even if the ump and catcher are wearing protection.
Even the batter didn't care. He was like "okay, you got your revenge".
Or Happ did care, but isn't one to start a fight when the umps are taking care of the issue. John Tumpane, the home plate ump, is probably the best ump in baseball, and the fact that he was able to nip this shit in the bud so quickly and decisively is a testament to that. Oh, and Mikolas is a Charmin soft sociopath, he definitely did that shit on purpose and deserved to be run.
Smart move to turn quick, that throw was intended for a nutzshot
@@mondochildyour taught at a young age to turn your back if you can't move out the way
They hugged it out
Likely didn’t care, could’ve gone either way. Catcher hugged it out after so if there was no revenge pitch I don’t think anyone would’ve bat an eye. There was a revenge pitch and it’s one of those things 25+ years ago everyone would’ve known it was coming. But nowadays, it’s a little surprising but tbh could have been expected.
That hug was everything. It was forgiveness and understanding. Something a lot of people lack today
They are former team mates
Amen.
It's called cya...cover your arse!
That hug? I think you meant pitch to the buttox, sir.
That hug was the reason that pitch had zero heat on it. That was a love tap reminder to keep a better hold on the bat.
Correct call. Batter and catcher already handled business. This was just the pitcher being an idiot.
Not sure it’s him being an idiot. Even if it was unnecessary, he showed respect to the catcher. You hit my guy, I hit you
@@PhilLongley he's an idiot because the catcher and batter already handled it amicably. Now he gets himself ejected for a non-issue that wasn't even really the batters fault to begin with
No, this was a Soft Toss at a Soft Target. It was an obligatory "gotta hit you" rather than throwing at his head trying to hurt him. This is acceptable... shouldn't have been ejected, especially with no warnings.
@@maizeman90You don't know the rules of Baseball. The Pitcher HAD to hit him, and chose to do it a lot nicer than anyone else. Soft Pitch to the Butt rather than a Cutting Fastball to the Face or Liver like most pitchers do.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 I'm aware of the unspoken rules. And many of times they are completely stupid. I'd agree with you had the catcher and batter not quashed things already. The injury wasn't even the batters fault. There is no obligatory need to hit the batter. Yes, it was a soft toss. It's still stupid and he threw at the batter on the previous pitch and missed. I've not seen the pitch so idk if he was warned then. Dumb to risk rejection on a resolved issue
That was the best "pay back" pitch I've ever seen. Not too fast, lower half, near the butt/thigh. Perfect
You'd be totally right... if it was called for. Catchers, including Contreras, have been creeping forward to better frame pitches, and have been getting hit more often because of this. The hitter and he hugged it out, said their sorrys and moved on, the pitcher didn't and needlessly re-escalated the issue.
@Kanthalas Youre.probably right that it wasn't really called for. But it's still a good "pay back" pitch regardless of if it was warranted. Better than headhunting a guy or risking serious injury.
@@19MichaelDixon Didn't he throw a pitch around the head just before and miss though
You are right it was a legal pitch, he wasn't pitching for his head, some joke that was the most accurate pitch he made all season!
They didn’t show the pitch before where he barely missed the batter’s head.
The catcher was being a true sportsman
Contreras was the Cubs' catcher for years. Happ and Contreras definitely still have a lot of respect for each other.
Teammates for 7 years, pitcher is a complete idiot.
Proper reaction as to when you fucked up. There's a batters box, not a catchers box.
They are buddies. Totally unintentional
@@ConstitutionalConservative1776 what????
happ and Wilson literally hugged. There was no bad blood until that happened
They won a world series together. Why would you even do that.
The pitcher didn’t throw a fast ball. It was just a revenge shot to not show weakness for future opponents.
@@parkerjones3019. They didn’t win a World Series together. Ian Happ made his debut in 2017 (the season after the WS). Also, that obviously wasn’t on purpose.
Clown
Pitcher didn't even throw hard, and the bater knew it was coming. That's right!!! The umps should have a better feel the game. The players took care of the situation.
Maybe the catchers should stop creeping so close to the goddamn plate to try and frame shitty pitches. Also the batter and catcher resolved it. The pitcher just made himself look like a child.
Catcher is actually in the right spot. Batter's left foot was outside of the batter's box. This was a mistake by the hitter (and ump for not telling the batter to move up). But, all of this looked like an accident and the hitter looked genuinely sorry.
But, yes, you do make a solid point that a number of catchers do creep too close. This wasn't one of those cases, though. And, yes, I agree with your point in general- it was an accident and the dude was sorry. No need to 'send a message' at this point.
Many batters are too far back and outside of the batter's box.
Nah man, that backswing was way too much.
That wasn't the pitcher's call. That came from the bench.
@seethe313 from the view on the video, the hitter is in the box.
He hit him with the bat and apologized and they hugged and walked away. Should’ve been over with. So I 100% agree with the umps to straight up eject him without a warning. Pitcher taking things too far.
You don't understand baseball or the history of how things are done my friend
@@209er2and you dont understand how to let shit go once it’s been dealt with.
Like this is one of the few times I’ve seen players make up and apologize on the field. And then the pitcher does this. I’m not blaming everything on the pitcher cause the really awful thing is that the pitcher is expected to do that and would be scorned for not doing that. Product of the shitty part of baseball culture. Props to happ and Contreras
I don't care. I was a catcher for 14 years. If my pitcher does not retaliate he is a piece of ....
But that was ice cream that Mikolas hit the batter with. He wasn't trying to kill him.
Court of law : You can't prove intent
Court of baseball : Like hell you can't
Literally no court says you can't prove intent. In fact intent is an element of the majority of crimes.
Only thing missing from this comment was the law & order song
@@Tommy-Tom-Tom you're on the right path, but strayed a bit too far. You can prove intent in court of law with either direct or circumstantial evidence. It's not an easy feat all the time, but it is something that can be proven
@@CubeInspector Yes, but your innocent until PROVEN guilty. The Prosecution has to PROVE the intent.
Well this was so obviously intentional it’s not even funny literally the first pitch after happ hit Contreras the ball was way in and happ got out of the way and then the very next pitch hit him. They threw at him twice and it was so obvious that they had to throw him out. Umps made the right decision. If he hit him on the first pitch maybe they would have let it go but 2 pitches in a row they need to throw him out
This clip is missing the part where Mikolas threw at his head and he missed and then threw thext pitch to his hip. That is why he was thrown out.
Ok. The clip showed the part where a batter hit a catcher in the head with a bat. Did you see that?
@@billnyethesciencedenier1516clearly an accident bud
@@billnyethesciencedenier1516 unintentional and did you see the part where they huged it out? Are you about intentionally injurying payers?
@@billnyethesciencedenier1516 He first threw a fast ball at this head. The video doesn't show that. And these unwritten rules are stupid. They only protect the feelings of the crybaby pitchers. Glad more and more hitters are breaking these "unwritten" rules.
@@billnyethesciencedenier1516it was a 94 mph fastball. Stop lying.
Even the Cardinals were waving their pitcher back to the dugout. That's when the announcers changed their tone. The announcers are the ones that need the feel of baseball. The feel of the game.
You have to know the background of this. I saw the game because I am a Cubs fan. Mikolas had no reason to do this because Happ would never purposefully hit Contreras. They used to be teammates and good friends and you could see the expression on his face when he hit him. Mikolas shouldn’t have been ejected but there was no reason to do that and he should have known that.
Without ejections, it just becomes a constant cycle of “getting revenge” for their guy. The problem is these feuds don’t even last just a series. Warnings might stop that, but then it just turns into getting revenge months in the future, which just fans the flames again.
Damn that stache is immaculate
1970’s porn grade
That's a classic 80's porn stash
and you are insecure
@@barrontrump3943 says the insecure bozo that commented for no reason
@@barrontrump3943 why are you bitter about a comment pointing out a fine stache? 😂
The sportsmanship from the catcher 👌🏻👏🏻
The loyalty from the pitcher 🎉
They’ve been teammates for years on the cubs. So they have love for each other. Surprised the pitcher didn’t know that and went after Happ.
@anthonydegrazia7988 That's cool thanks for the info!
Pitcher was a dumbass for “sending a message” that didn’t need to be sent. (and he did a pisspoor job needing two attempts to hit Happ) Happ didn’t backswing on purpose to hit his friend and former teammate.
@ortree I don't know the whole pitcher deal, but yeah, those two seemed cool.
The announcers should be fined and removed as well.
removed? but yeah why did they pitcher even hit him
The batter handled it like an adult: he apologized and made things right with the catcher and let the pitxher throq his temper tantrum
Mikolas watched them hug it out. He hit the ejection button his damn self.
If you listen, the announcer says he buzzed the tower once and caught him flush the second. Two revenge pitches were thrown
Exactly
If u know anything about the game you'd know it came from the bench. At the MLB level it's never the pitchers call on hitting a player.
@@JohnJohn-wr1jo as a professional player you should be able to determine what is a bad play from the coach/bench. Who’s ever choice it was, it was a hard R pansy decision to do. In no way did this require any retaliation… dumb stuff
@@grimsolace4433nah bruh that dude deserved to get hit. U can control ur backswing to not possible give a player a concussion. Also getting hit by a pitch although it definitely hurts ain’t nearly as bad as a possible concussion.
That hug was heart felt sorry. And that man has buns of steel
Yup they were teammates so I think all was good it was just an accident
Dude got the cake
Super man
omfg for real? ur lifes are so poor guys.. im so sad for you.
So built like a catcher. Makes sense!
That was really uncalled for..dudes hugged it out, it wasn’t on purpose..smh
I played catcher as a kid. I was told it was MY responsibility to see to it I was clear of a follow through, the batter has every right to swing away unhindered. Pitch was unprofessional!
The Cub batter knew it was coming. The pitcher didn’t even put any heat on it. Just felt like both were in agreement that a punishment was coming
Why is there a punishment for an accident?
Punishment for doing nothing wrong
I don't like this 'revenge' bullshit...
Keep ejecting these assholes...
@j.e.robins5839 they hugged it out at the end it was resolved right there but stupid old head rules want to butt in
@chuckd5819 them hugging it out is in indicator of them saying it's ok why add more to it?
happ looked like he knew it was coming😭
Happ knew Mikolas and the Cards would regret it.
Mikolas tried to hit him the pitch before, but missed
@@msgtblbjyeah my dad was at the game
@@maxhahn6375 no one asked
@@UnderwaterAlexJonesCckscker....no wanted u to comment either....but ya did.... Trollin Trollin Trollin....😮
Definitely should be thrown out of game
Exactly. "have a little feel for the game" in the meantime the game is about getting batters out and not giving free bases.
Catcher wasn't even mad at batter, pitcher just made a fool of himself
A little context for the ones who aren't too familiar with this:
Happ & Contreras were former teammates. As recent as last season. There was no ill intent, hence the hug.
Then what the clip doesn't show, the pitch prior to this one, is Mikolas aiming for his head and missing. And then follows up with this pitch to the butt.
thanks for the context!
So in other words the pitcher deserved to get booted?
@GreasyBeasty exactly. But ppl who stopped watching baseball in the 90s keep talking about an unwritten rule. But that doesn't apply here lol
@@GreasyBeastyeven without the prior pitch he should have been ejected with no warning. Clearly immediately retaliating with hitting a batter intentionally is grounds for ejection. Should be an automatic suspension too but the mlb is too weak knee’d for that.
You missed the point. You've still got to take a punch.
He didn’t even mean to hit him and still apologized, he didn’t deserve to be hit
Announcers clearly said batters haven't made an big enough effort to prevent that. It's more common than other years so he should've got hit
idk dude, when you play at that level, small "mistakes" are most of the time, intentional! I mean, he knocked out a guy from the field on an accident? F that, these guys know exactly what they are doing.
@@JoseRamirez-yh2ll 😂🤣😂 No one gives a shit what the announcers say ! He should have got ejected and did.
Thats the game he pegged him lightly if it were Clemens he would of thrown a 90 mph fastball to his head
Dude he barely threw that ball and the batter knew what it was for
The sportsmanship between the batter and catcher was better than anyone else's. It should have ended with the hug.
Nah good call by the umps. The batter didn't do anything malicious or intentional and he apologized to the catcher. No need to purposely hit someone
The most gentle hit by pitch in history lol
Yea also hit him in the cheeks, well done id say.
Actually saw it in real time and it was 90 mph.
Actually, go look up Jared Weaver 😂😂
Even if the pitch was gentle I wouldn’t want to hit by hit
Nah watch dee Gordon pitching😂
Bro escalated an already de escalated situation… stay away from those people.
Pitcher didn’t appreciate the negligence, just saw his guy get hit in the head with a bat, hits dude in hip to let them know they don’t accept that, could be worse next time. they probably don’t do that again in fear of a fastball coming at their head next time. Yes escalated it, but maybe other team gets the point to not do that again. Ejection is kinda weak since there was no warnings and he hit him in a respectable spot
@@xXxFroztyy “hit him in a respectable spot” there was no reason to hit him in the first place when both players resolved the issue on their own. Guy came in full hot with his ego higher than the stadium. It would be like two people getting into a fist fight, then hugging it out and making up and then some random friend socking the guy in the face. Absolutely pointless. And good on the umpire for making it clear that behavior is not tolerated. Ps you are someone to stay away from.
I bet you're the type that won't help a friend in a fist fight because it's against the rules or something. Don't wanna get in trouble with mommy, it's okay little boy.
@@xXxFroztyycan’t believe you baseball fans can sit around and act like it’s okay to PURPOSELY hit somebody with a pitch over an accidental contact.
@@jacobkadar4519an accidental contact that could be fatal
More than ok to send a message saying try not taking my guys head off
I feel the players handled that with complete respect. Batter knew what he did, he was calm and I’m sure “sorry” pitcher gave him an easy one in the side batter acknowledged it and took his base WIThOUt COMPLAINT. This is programming for the players and the masses.
Mikolas looked like he tagged him with a solid 50 mph. 😂
Right on target to not injure or badly hurt anyone. Classy bean ball.
@@FrogsTinyBladder It was 94 after he missed his head.
@@brianthornber3319misses don't count
That's about as hard as he can throw.
It almost looked like an underhand pitch.
That was the most gentlemanly thrown revenge pitch you'll ever see. Joe Kelly would have taken the batter's head off.
You can hear the announcers mention him doing that. Mikolas tried, but threw the fastball slightly low and Happ dodged it. So Mikolas decided to aim center mass on the next throw to hit Happ.
Joe Kelly would have missed 4 times
@@satagaming9144 Hi Alex Bregman. 👋
Well deliberately pitching at someone is always a PoS move... panned out exactly as it should when you Deliberately try to hurt someone. Baseball is a game, not a battle.
Fucking stupid thing to do either way. Costing your team potentially all for the sake of pettiness and getting back. It does absolutely fuck all especially if it all stemmed from an accident.
The actions of him before he leaves the field show that its not 'the game of baseball', and clearly display the intent
Batter and the catcher handle it perfectly-show kids what good sportsmanship looks like
That's what makes the NHL so great. Fight it out, then sit for 5 minutes.
Sit out for a half an at bat?
I went to a hockey fight and a game broke out.
So true, they would have fought to let them know that’s not ok, and then been all good.
Except fighting is becoming extinct in the NHL.
@@MrPhilionaireFighting had actually been on an upswing since 2020.
Happ and Contreras were teammates. There was no ill feelings between the two. There was no need to “send a message” to Happ. Pitcher deserves to be ejected.
So did Happ for nearly killing the catcher with an unintentional but totally unnecessary showboat swing. When Happ didn't get ejected, he HAD to be plunked to let him know to have some bat discipline and don't kill our catcher you weak punk. THAT is baseball.
@@worlddevourer7740 shut up. You are whats wrong with baseball
Baseball is full of wussies, pitchers get so pressed and these commentators sided with him?!? Thats why their sport os dying
Happ needs to fix his swing. You don’t just get to hit people in the head because you have a quirky swing. The hit by pitch was sending a message that he needs to fix it or he’ll keep getting hit.
@@TheClaw1536 "happ needs to fix his swing"
spoken by somebody whos never been paid to swing a bat in their life, you dont mess with the swing that made you rich. you mong.
That one-handed follow-through should be illegal and cause an immediate rejection, even without contact being made. There's no reason for it except to 'accidentally' bean the catcher. That said, awarding the batter with a free single seems counter-productive.
The batters box needs to be shortened to prevent this from happening. It occurs all too frequently and a catcher is going to end being seriously hurt
As a St. Louis fan, Mikolas should be focusing on throwing a damn strike before throwing at a batter that literally just hugged it out with Contreras. Stupid move. He’s been awful this season.
Probably wasn't his idea.
@@watsonsd1Yes. Definitely skipper’s idea
Mikolas has not been awful this season. He's been pretty solid actually. He had a rough April but he's been pretty good ever since
He threw that thing 2 miles and hour right at his ass. He didn't wanna do that shit.
@@keith3915 dude you throw it at someone’s ass to keep it from hurting them. It’s the most meaty area other than maybe our thighs. He threw it on purpose😂😂
I am old school in most cases, but what happened at the plate was a complete accident. There was no malice involved, and they even embraced as the guy was going to the dugout. There was no reason to bean him. The pitcher deserved to get thrown out for that stupidity.
If its an “accident” thats a result of being lazy on controlling his backswing. The catcher was being a professional, the pitcher sent the message that batters can control their bat or get plunked. How was there no reason if it discourages batters from hitting the catcher?
Next time he will keep both hands on the bat.
@@100thprimate Fine. Then don't whine when the pitcher gets thrown out for intentionally hitting a batter.
@@toddrf You seem like the one whining
@@100thprimate is English your first language?
Good...they should have thrown him out and fined him 💯 any pitcher that purposely hits a batter with a pitch should be suspended and fined 😒 how unprofessional.
not really sure why all the commentators are so surprised. it was obviously intentional, seems like the umpires are well within their jurisdiction
He stuck his booty out for like I know it's coming 😂😂😂
i noticed that to lol. he was like ooh daddy please.
PAUSE!!!!!!!!!
He saw it coming at him. Of course he knew and knew it was intentional.
He did🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would’ve done the same
I always thought you had to try to move ? No ?
The batter knew it was coming. He didn't even get mad.
Dude. He didn't even look at the mound after. It's called a receipt and the batter took it like a man. Should have let him play
It's the unwritten and well understood culture of the game. That's how he knew it was coming.
Cause he knew pitcher is going o be thrown out
He didn't even put any heat on that. That was just a message being sent.
Like a man
Golly that backswing was hella scary D:
After review, I place blame on the batter. He was behind the box. However, there appears to be no applicable penalty (except getting thrown at by the pitcher's discretion). It's particularly noticeable on the profile/side shot on the replay. Rules 5.04(b)(5), 6.03(a)(1):"When the batter assumes a batting stance in the batter’s box, he shall have both feet entirely within the batter’s box; i.e., no part of either foot may extend beyond the outer edge of the lines defining the box when the batter assumes a position in the box. There is no penalty specified for violation other than the batter shall be instructed to stay within the batter’s box if brought to the attention of the umpire..."
He knew it was coming the just accepted it and walked out calmly.
Just top in the checks maybe a week it'll be gone
He deserved it BUT it was a mistake a accident no player tryna hit a catcher on the head with a bat.
Yeah but they didn’t show him trying to buzz a 90 mph fast ball at his head.
@@traphousemusic1880How did he deserve it when it was an accident. He wasn't looking back trying to intentionally clock the catcher, but the pitcher did throw two revenge pitches
@@BESTEHSTUBA read again
Happ and Contreras hugged it out afterwards. It was so weird for him to throw at Happ after that.
not weird at all.
@@jeremyweems4916is that a joke? It was accidental contact and they bro-hugged. The catcher could shrugged off Happ, but he didn’t. Doesn’t mean that the pitcher gets a free toss at Happ.
@@Heffelz8 Two free tosses - he missed with the first one.
At most toss one tight inside to keep the batters honest.
And that’s why baseball is dying stupid shit like that.
Who's this announcer who's says " Have a little feel for baseball." ? One was unintentional the other wasn't. I don't care what anyone says, throwing at people is not, or shouldn't be, part of the game. Be a grown up and throw the ball over the plate.
The batter did not intentionally strike the catcher. Even the catcher understood this.
Accidents happen, be an adult. Even the concussed catcher understood this.
...and the batter knew he had it coming and took it. He didn't beam his head. Same concept as fights in hockey. Players can check each other to make sure they are more mindful in the future.
@@BA-pp6qc Just curious, why does it benefit them for catchers to be back further?
lol accidents happen every time that guy goes to bat.... not really an accident the 7th time it happens
accidents like that can end a catchers career or even kill them so it doesnt really matter if he didnt mean to
That was no accident
That was an apology hug, we could all tell that was heart felt. Pitcher earned it.
normally they give a warning for the first hit by pitch. They didnt in this case so it went against the norm.
@@zedwpdmaking an example cuz it's flagrant...
@@zedwpd actually no. If they feel it was intentional, they can eject without warning
I don't agree. The catcher could suffer a concussion.
@@kevingeier3385Ah, yes. Let's get revenge and make the situation worse.
Pitcher didnt even throw it hard, it was just part of the game. Happ totally understood the ball was going to be coming straight at him.
That was painful to contrast probaly.I wonder why Mikolas hit him by pitch to get ejected.
The batter did interact with the catcher, looked like they resolved the incident. Pitcher couldn’t leave it alone.
Did batter do it on purpose or was it an accident?
@@nofurtherwest3474 Accident. Apparently the batter and catcher are friends.
@@nofurtherwest3474probably an accident this time, but there are a few guys who do it completely on purpose. It hasnt been a real issue until more recently
interesting thanks@@Gottiline_Ace
@@gonzarellious6102 of course they're friends, Contreras played for the Cubs until he went to StL via free agency before this season.
MM knew this play was coming. Prepped himself to be composed and calm.. smart af
Should have thrown heat at his face wasn't worth the ejection for a meatball to the ass cheek
I mean yeah… he threw at him the pitch before too but missed him
Play? Revenge is not a play.
@@Maskenken tell that to Bob Gibson.
@ElotTheRavenFan8 Bob Gibson was childish? Pretty bold coming from a beta-male.
Catcher: " i will get you out with balls next time"
I find the whole situation hilarious. Cubs batter Ian Happ inadvertently hit Cardinals catcher and former Cub Wilson Contreras with the backswing (follow through, really), leading to Contreras leaving the game (the guy who came in for him actually hit two homers this game to account for the Cardinals 3 runs), and the two embraced afterwards as a sign of friendship and to indicate that it was a clear accident and no animosity was felt. Cardinals pitcher Miles Mikolas, however, throws his next two pitches at Happ (the first one isn’t shown here, but it was high and inside at Happ) in retaliation (of an accident, mind you). Afterwards, the umpires got together, deemed Mikolas threw at Happ intentionally both times, leading to Mikolas’s ejection to the shock of Cardinals fans and ONLY Cardinals fans. Mikolas then starts yelling at the Cubs dugout (for some reason) while the Cubs are just laughing at the whole situation. Cardinals manager Olly Marmol was also ejected shortly afterwards for arguing with the umpire over the incident.
The best part? Ian Happ scored later in the inning on a bases loaded walk, meaning Mikolas got charged with a run. The Cubs would score twice more in the inning on a two-run double by Christopher Morel (I should probably mention that this entire sequence - starting with Happ’s at-bat - happened with two outs in the inning). The Cubs never gave up the lead in a 10-3 victory, meaning Mikolas got charged with the loss despite getting thrown out 3 batters into the game.
Honestly I’m surprised the bat to catchers head doesn’t happen more often…. Glad the catcher is ok.
Not many swing like that anymore.
@@garydergut4741Yeah. Most pros underatand that baseball and golf are different sports.
There is no reason to backswing that wide.
Announcers: they don’t need to issue warnings, if they feel it’s intentional they can throw them out
Also announcers when it’s their team: HAVE A LITTLE FEEL FOR THE GAME
Why not throw Happ out for the dangerous, showboating swing? Zero reason to EVER let the bat fly like that and he could kill the catcher doing that. Since the umpires didn't have the balls to eject Happ to send the message that you can't swing like that, the pitcher did EXACTLY the right thing. In the old days, Bob Gibson would have beaned Happ for an undisciplined dangerous bat to the head of his catcher, unintentional or not.
@@worlddevourer7740 and Bob Gibson would have gotten run. You are whats wrong with baseball.
@@UnderwaterAlexJones I would have no problem with Gibson being run but Happ would think twice about the reckless follow through in the future. Problem solved. Players that don't protect their teammates are cowards and get traded, as they should. If Happ doesn't want to get hit, then have some bat discipline and don't endanger other players with your showboat swing. Finally, I have NOTHING to do with MLB rules or their enforcement. I am just offering an opinion of a fan of the game since the 1960's. Don't wet your diaper over my opinion. Opinions are just like butt holes, everyone has one and most of them stink.
@worlddevourer7740 you’re wrong and there is no such thing as a showboat swing. Happ has been using that follow through swing his entire career. The cardinals announcers are boneheads and so is anyone who thinks that Happ should’ve gotten ejected for something that was accidental.
@@worlddevourer7740 YOU. ARE. WHATS. WRONG. WITH. BASEBALL.
Happ obviously had no ill intent with his back swing. But also big up to Miles for standing up for his guy.
Announcer clueless... "Have a little feel for the game." That's EXACTLY what they had and took correct actions.
Catcher sets up too close, gets hit in the head. Pitcher needs two shots to hit a guy. Gets ejected for throwing a baseball at a batter, announcers freak out for some reason.
No he's not to close the batter needs better control, should be ejection & fine!
@@juliechase2047uh… if you’re close enough to get hit by the bat then you’re too close.
Contreras got hit a lot even as a cub. Just bad luck. Mikolas had no feel for the game.
@@JonEslickthere also has been a trend recently where the catchers have been getting their hands hurt from (and get this) BEING TO CLOSE to the batter's batting zone
@JonEslick the catchers moved up to gather more strikes due to the glove being directly in the swing path. That's why umps are calling more bad balls/strikes. The catcher is in fact too close especially as the batter looks to be set at the backside of the batters box.
This is a good example of why you shouldn't be offended for someone else.
His team mate could have been killed.
He was sending a message for the sake of all his team mates, not just that catcher
What's the message, don't have accidents?@@ML-sc3pt
@@ML-sc3ptkilled? Unlikely... what msg? It was childish and unnecessary there was no msg being sent except pitcher is abit of a toddler
@@lpdb1995 you realize one of man's first weapons was a club right?
Idc how unlikely it is the batter smacked the catcher with a bat. I mean people still use baseball bats as weapons to this day
@lpdb1995 A 35mph high velocity impact can kill. The average speed of an MLB batters follow through is 65mph.
no reason for the pitcher to retaliate, the batter clearly did that on accident and even apologized to the catcher
Omg... Why are those commentators... Saying it was the wrong call . And that it was valid .
They need to be fired
He 100% deserved that ejection
Not after one hit batter, this is just a case of there being more vaginas on the field than in an all girls high school.
Yes sir!!
100% for being petty
Yep
Karen’s just don’t understand.
That was an accident, he immediately apologized and guy accepted
I don't know but I didn't think it was an accident.
LOL
Yeah but this is happening too much. Batters need to knock it off. I agree with the ejection but only because you already threw at him once. Throwing at him twice earns an ejection.
An accident? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, his birth was a freaking accident and innocent people are paying for it
@@shishinonaitobro it was an accident they are former teammates you bot😑
Theres SOOOOO much back story between the hitter Ian Happ and catcher Wilson Contreras thats not mentioned in this video, and knowing it makes what the pitcher did just SOOO much more pathetic.
To put the full story as short as possible...these 2 were teammates for their entire professional career (Contreras was already on the Cubs a few years before Happ made it up.) The year before, the Cubs were doing so poorly both of them were viewed as the Cubs biggest trade chips approaching the trade deadline and literally everyone who really follows baseball expected both to be gone that July. Both were given standing ovations in what was believed to be their final home game as a Cub. Both were very emotional and waved goodbye to fans and left the field together. Theres a dozen interviews with the 2 as their expected final days as Cubs got closer and closer.
August 1st comes around and unbelievably both were still on the team.
Fast forward to that off season. Happ signed an extension for the Cubs, Contreras hit free agency and signed with the Cardinals.
Barely a few months after that, this episode happens. And it's not like Mikolas didn't know at least some of the history between the 2. The Cubs and Cardinals are to each other as the Yankees are to the Red Sox.
And the poetic justice ever happened in this game...Happ takes 1st base and would end up scoring a run that inning and because Mikolas was responsible for Happ reaching base, his run was charged to Mikolas...the Cubs would eventually go on to win the game. And Mikolas, who had only thrown like 5 pitches was ultimately charged with the loss of the game. And 1 thing not shown in this clip...Mikolas's 1st pitch after everything happened was a 94 mph that nearly hit Happ in the head. It was his 2nd pitch that hit Happ. Mikolas would go on to claim the ball just "slipped" out of his hand the 1st time.
It was fucking beautiful.
I know it’s hard to imagine that something happened outside of the 20 seconds you saw of the game. But to all of the people bitching about how the pitcher shouldn’t have been ejected, the hit you saw was his second time hitting the batter within two pitches. There has been a growing problem with catchers trying to make umpires think that a ball is actually a strike by quickly moving their glove into the strike zone after making a catch, which they do by getting incredibly close to the batter so it’s harder for the umpire to see what’s going on. This is simply another example of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Stop acting like it’s some huge event. It does not matter
You sound like you know absolutely nothing about baseball. Catchers have been "framing" pitches since the begging of the sport. It didn't just start happening all of a sudden.
@@FORDultra never said it was sudden, just that it’s progressively getting worse. I’m no baseball enthusiast, but I do know that standing closer to the batter is a strategy that invites getting hit. That’s not baseball knowledge, it’s just common sense
That was one of the safest looking bean balls ever 😆 🤣
I like listening to the announcers have a fit
Thats the cardinals announcers for ya
@@maxwolf4036 Yeah, because the Cardinals announcers are the ONLY biased announcers in all of baseball!!🙄
@@dianeschmidt6367if your bias is more important than someone trying to intentionally injure someone who accidentally injured another player, I have no respect for you. I'm glad umpires aren't taking as much shit anymore in regards to intentionally hit batters, because pitchers are just being crybabies and using it whenever they think fit.
Gary, Keith and Ron would never
I think it's weird how the cardinals announcer thought it was so messed up that the umpires threw out mikolas out After he hit happ intentionally
Yeah but you gotta have a little feel for the game of baseball 😂😂
It was the first inning, and no warning was given after the previous pitch was thrown at his head. Then he hits him in the hip with a low velocity fastball and gets ejected. That's where the complaint was made. Umpires need to keep the game in context. Unless a starting pitcher kills a guy, you don't toss him in the first inning.
@kevino4846 you really should try hiding your stupidity much better than you do.
Lol. That bean was so weak you have to let Mikolas stay in there.
Regardless if the catcher set up too close, the batter still apologized and they all good. Umpires made the right call in ejecting the pitcher on the next pitch.
Hitter apologized and all was good. There was 0 reason to get revenge. What a dumb move...
Not a dumb move. It’s a sign of loyalty and respect for the catcher .
You have NO CLUE about baseball
@@PinkTacoStadiumnot when the catcher didn't ask for it 😂😂😂
New to baseball? lmao
@@PinkTacoStadiumits a sign of a dumbass who is way too sensitive😂
Catchers pls stop moving up. It’s not worth it trust me.
Exactly, that's the why this happened. Because the coaches tell them to move up.
@@stephanievitner1067Why is that? Does that give the catchers more control of the pitch placement to shorten the distance over the plate?
@duncanidaho2097 you said it, apparently it has give them better numbers, but ofc is a big risk
Umpires need to enforce that batters stay inside the batters box. The batter it standing with his whole back foot over the line and outside of the box. The catcher is well inside his own space. It's not the catcher's job to accommodate the batter because he feels too confined by the rules.
As a former minor league catcher, I'm here to tell you they are playing at normal depth. If they play any deeper they risk passed balls
That's real baseball justice. That's just sports justice. It happens in every sport!
Happ is literally one of the nicest guys
The announcers are acting like Mikolas didn’t deserve to be tossed, when he obviously deserved that
Yeah they were pretty dumb about it. One of them saying "get a feel for the game" is just plain wrong. Baseball has so many stupid unwritten rules about nonsense like this. It was an accident, and the batter didn't mean to do it and apologized. No need to throw at his head or even at him in general. Well deserved ejection.
@@georgen5882 yep. Couldn’t agree more.
The announcer was right, though. The pitcher had no choice but to take up for his catcher. It didn’t matter if it was intentional, or if the batter said he was sorry and gave the guy a hug. The pitcher knew he had a responsibility to his teammates, and he did his job. Everyone on both teams understood this, and no one had any problem with it, including the batter. It wasn’t even a big deal, whatsoever. Then, of course, for no good reason, the umpires decided to make it one. That’s why he said they need to get a feel for the game, and he was obviously right.
@@chriswebster24he has the responsibility to smack the next batter with a ball due to accidental contact? I swear I played baseball for years but y’all are fuckin mad. Such a bad culture…
He hit him in the ass. Pedro would have went for his head
Cause and effect. There is a video out there explaining that in an effort by the catchers to frame more pitches as strikes they're moving closer to the plate to make that effort easier. The problem is, it puts them in range of this type of back swing. So the only way this stops is for the batters to stop that much of a back swing or the catchers to give back that space. So get ready for more vids like this.
God I hate announcers. "They're throwing him out for the most intentional act you've ever seen?! You gotta be kidding me!"
Yeah, it's amazing how much better somebody pitches when they're a little pissed off.
Because aiming at something you want to hit is easier to do that aim to avoid someone hitting the ball
100% agree with that ejection. the incident was completely unintentional. absolutely no need to send any message at all. this was just cowardly.
If you can't control your bat, you should be ejected like a high stick in😊 hockey. He hit him in the hip, and it didn't injure the player. Now the Cardinals are put two players, not the right call.
@@kevingeier3385 players run into each other all the time on the basepaths. you want to start ejecting every player that unintentionally comes into contact with an opponent?
and you forget the whole point of pitchers purposely beaning batters. this was absolutely the wrong time to do it.
@@michaelweston2285 If the coaches and umpires refuse to keep batters in the box, so the swing of the bat (just as controllable as a pitch, by the way!) does not hit the catcher, then they have no business ejecting the pitcher. We all know that this problem of catchers getting hit by the bat has been going on way too much this season! It's time for the umps to do their job.
That was the correct call. Batter apologized to the catcher who accepted the apology.
It was a puffcake beanball that was low and slow. The batter understood that retaliation is part of the game. It would have been another thing if the ball was fast and high. Back in the day the pitchers were not hesitant to go high and outside to batters crowding the plate.
* pitcher blatantly uses the ball as a weapon *
“have a little feel for baseball!”
Yeah I have no problem with that ejection; no opinion on either team.
The pitcher still acts like the spoiled brat he was in high school and college. Punk
That was baseball. The only time I have a problem is when the ball is thrown behind the pitcher taking away an escape route.
@@user-sn1se8kh7zany intentional hit should be an automatic ejection. This was the most obvious intentional hit ever. There isn’t always time to react and escape a pitch and getting hit by a pitch can end a career.
Number one rule in batting is to keep both hands on the bat. You lose power in the swing. I learned that in little league. The bat isnt a weapon? And the catcher got hit in the head vs a ball to the butt. All the pitchers call the pitches, so it wasnt even him making that call. The batter has control of what happens in the swing. Plus this swing to the catchers has been goin on more often this season than ever.
Contreras is so nice bro respecting his old friend
I think "cos(69)" was a better joke, but I'm not a comedian 🤷♂️
The announcers aren't clowns... Happ wasn't even mad about it. Nothing needed to happen. That's just flat out soft.
Contreras caused this issue. He sets up closer to the plate to try to frame the pitch. That was a normal follow through on Happ’s swing. This has been a worsening issue since last season.
Gotta disagree on that. First angle isn't great, but it certainly looks like batter's foot is on or over the back barrier of the batter's box that of course has been rubbed out. Second angle looks pretty clear that catcher's glove is behind the same line. Been far too long the first batters up have been allowed to rub out that line. Catchers are getting hurt as a result.
It's how Contreras got his arm fractured. He even said he's gonna keep setting up that close to the plate when he comes back because framing is part of the game now. It's why he wasn't upset with Happ here.
The ridiculous part here is the Cardinals retaliating because they know where their catchers are setting up. This wasn't something to retaliate against.
Should just be you leave 2 hands on the bat. If not, you can take a hand off, but if you make contact with the catcher it is an automatic end of inning
@@ThatSBlol that’s a terrible idea. It’s the catchers job to protect themselves.
I agree, I was actually at this game and before I thought it could have maybe been Happ’s fault, but then a few weeks ago J.D Martinez hit Contreras with his bat and broke his arm. Contreras is told to move closer to the plate so he can frame pitches easier and fool the umpires
💯% correct. Batter accidentally hit catcher. Pitcher purposefully hit batter. Easy call for umps.
Batter was in control of his swing. He didn't "accidentally" swing his bat. You're 100% incorrect. The pitcher released the ball and uncontrollable factors steered the ball.
@@ancientstorm8393😅😂. So silly.
If you haven't noticed there is a lot of batters that are hitting catchers with their swings. They know damn well they are doing it and haven't changed shit. If the pitcher can control a pitch, the batter can control the fucking bat. You don't know shit.
They both meant what they did. Everybody made the right decision. It's baseball. The unsaid rules of baseball should always be upheld
Ancient storm years about 12 years old I can tell that so I’m not going to hurt your feelings too badly but if you watch the video of the batter slipped his wrist and then he hit the catcher in the head. The picture purposely threw the ball at his balls. If you watch the video is the battery didn’t move it was going straight for his balls so once again, Child stop acting like you know what happened because at the end of the day you’re about 12 years old and you’ve never played baseball in your life.
I see all these comments saying the pitcher is acting like a child. I guarantee the batter knew what was going to happen. If a catcher is directly injured in anyway from another player, that player will be getting thrown at by the pitcher. If the batter didn’t know he wouldn’t have taken the hit. It’s a rule. The fact they threw him out over it implies the umpires believed he would throw at other players relating to the incident which is why the announcers freaked the fuck out.😊
That was stupid by the pitcher
They literally hugged it out before that pitcher absolutely deserved to get tossed
@@wakawaka1976 this was an accident, cheating on your significant other is never an accident. This is the dumbest argument.
@@wakawaka1976this is like a middle school level argument going on right here. Happ and Contreras are probably friends so I don’t see how an accident warrants intentional harm in any way.
@wakawaka1976 you act like he did it on purpose
@wakawaka1976 do you even know the difference between accidental and intentional? Sounds like you don't
@@wakawaka1976You keep offering up examples that don't reflect this situation and are not good parallels. Punishment could or should be handed out by major league in the form of a fine or suspension if there are repeat offences. They can not allow retribution by throwing at a player intentionally. This has occurred several times this year and it needs to be addressed, but not with more potentiona harm.