What Tyr's Return Means For WoW In 2024
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Off topic. I would like to see Blizzard/Activision try to revise Warcaft 1-3 as a base builder with 1-5 players. Humans and orcs only at the start, but can integrate the other races as the expansions progress through the story. Gaining NPC's as you progress through the story, just like the original game. I think it would bring a whole new view to the game and its origins. Using WoW's character skins for the players. But you would have to leave the Base build open for the imagination for the players. If they can only make pre-built buildings, it would lose its luster. I honestly would love to play this if they could make it. Like Minecraft, Valheim, and the other games but in Warcraft. What do you think?
Getting Tyr up to speed on all the past going on’s Azeroth would be a great quest line to catch up new people to the games history.
Lore catch up quest if you will.
Bonus points if we got to play scenarios... extra bonus points if it were done like the Night Fae play..
They'll just put it in a book 😂
@@TaliesinMyrddin wow I had forgotten about that play. I can’t see it working, the night Fay were pretty whimsical, maybe such thing would be better suited to the dark moon fair. But I did enjoy it. Did you know that the Fay that was a conservationist in life, who was saying that it was impossible for a plant to survive being stabbed with a giant sword, was a game theory reference.
I love how every depiction of Tyr stays true to his mythology of being a just and honorable man
Agreed! And also having a rocky relationship with Odin/Wodan, who IRL usurped his role as the primary deity of the germanic/nordic tribes.
He's a construct, not a man.
I have the perfect solution for Tyr...
* brings in Nobbel*
"Hello Everyone!"
Perfect 😂
Fun Fact, Tyr recognizes his hammer if you have it on when you talk to him while he is sitting down after. Giving a unique dialog.
Whoa cool!
I was kinda wondering if wearing G'hanir would cause anything different to happen in the Dream zone
What does he say please?.
I don’t play the game anymore, but I still read so much about the lore and I’m interested in such a detail
@@ahmedalarishi6119 No worries.
Tyr: You wield my hammer, the Silver Hand. Bane of Ragnaros and Galakrond, I hope it serves you well.
@@Thromash thank you so much🌹
I’ll be honest I haven’t been this excited not only for wow content but the story direction in wow in years . Regardless if this Saga pans out I really do like knowing where we’re going and the path forward , got so tired of random what’s next expansions
Dragonflight has not been perfect, but it is obvious there is a lot more care and structure in the story telling and setting things up for the future. Letting the big villains live to scheme and return, bringing back old aspects of the lore while also adding onto it, returning the Dragons to their rightful power and adding new twists and aspects, etc. It is honestly the breath of fresh air the game needed.
As I'm just now playing this story arc, it IS a separate Elisande, they state outright at the beginning it is not our timeline, and state it a few more times while making your way to her. So yeah, different Elisande, planted seed for future content? Maybe for Midnight or just them moving to keep her in play and in their pocket for later?
WoD has already set the precedent of a character from the game's core timeline traveling to another timeline and then back, so why couldn't Elisande be capable of that?
@@bisterkding9249 yes but Nozdormu himself literally says it’s not our timeline, thus not our Elisande, now she DID say she was traveling to another timeline, so this Elisande COULD be the one we killed, but it’s unlikely given how Blizz historically sets these sorts of things up and more likely the Elisande we deal with in this scenario is still running about in another timeline. My bet is they’re pocketing her for Midnight, but we’ll see.
It’s wild to me that we still have multiple patches left in the expansion and we already have the World Tree, Aspects, & Tyr back.
This was the last major patch of Dragonflight… what do you mean lol
@@tylerblue9691 Still more story to go. Nothing huge, but still notable.
@@GlamdringandOrcrist Dropping the surprise return of gilneas was really nice. It's my favorite city aesthetically besides kul tiras so I really hope they get it right.
@@tylerblue9691Glam said nothing about 'major', they just said multiple patches, which was confirmed by devs.
My dude, Jennifer Hale also voices another character that the player has interacted with throughout this expansion: Merithra
Not to mention less known/remembered characters in previous expansions.
Did anybody else felt like they just spent a year to reactivate a robot?
Better than 2+ years to deactivate one in Shadowlands
I would say sentient AI that we gave a new body.
Don't worry, WoWGPT will rise again.
Does*
@@sardonicspartan9343 Isn't he asking in past tense?
Zandy trolls can already be paladins. But I really do want them to open up pally to all races. It's a strong class.
How they write Zandalari prelate in Tyr's Return made me cringe as hell already.
Can't imagine how cringe it would be when they try to write a Pandaren "paladin".
@@35961107
At WoW being 19 years old, having class/race restrictions are pretty cringe in general. It's as if all the races are stupid and unable to learn.
It's unrealistic.
@@35961107 don't worry you'll survive, I promise.
Not gonna lie, as cool as it would be to get more paladins, I feel like lumping everyone into one new Tyr's Guard order is the most bland and boring way they could have done it. Love it or hate it, having different "flavors" of paladin made them interesting. Blood Knights, Silver Hand, Sunwalkers, Prelates, they each had a neat twist on the class from the individual races perspectives.
I would have liked to have seen more if that. What does having a worgen curse mean for a worgen Paladin? How do goblins interact with the light? How does a Forsaken feel about taking up another oath to another force that might just use them yet again?
These would be really cool things to explore, but instead we are getting "Fuck it, a robot space wizard dis it".
@@nigelhirth2181 it seems you have little knowledge of how the Light works.
I do agree that give some specific features to race/class new combinations would help not to lose immersion in the world (by thinking that's just happened is only due to gameplay).
Sunwalker never had real flavour qnd the look of the t6 set on a cow is hurting.
Forsaken priest do exist, but only few of them lore-wise worship the light, as it burns them, requiring a lot of willpower to endure the pain.
The fact is that Paladins are more radical than priests, they are blessed by the light in a specific ritual, they take oaths.
The only way for a pala to accept his status and retains his power would be to consider the undeath like a maladery, like Leonid Barthalomew.
It's important to note that the relevant undead characters that still follow the Light are NOT part of the Horde (Faol, Barthalomew).
Last but not least to worship the Light doesn't mean to be controlled by a Force. That's the way the draenei worship the Naaru.
Blood knights and Silver Hand paladins bends the Light to their purpose, it just requires to strongly believe the righteousness of the purpose.
Tyr reminds me of the good aoldier archetype. He always does as ordered but bends how he forfills those orders to fit his moral belief
It's a neat trope if they do it well
Tyr basically wows version of Captain America? Lol
this is why i feel that we will not have to fear Tyr becoming our enemy.
@@catrinastars give that man a shield
Love the video! But Nozdormu did say in the questline that that was indeed n AU Elisande, possibly the one from the Suramar we learn from in the Time Rifts who are fighting a rebellion against the Legion.
He actually did. I played the questline this morning
ARGH IM A MORON HOW DID I FORGET THIS. Bleh, these are the dangers of going off script.
@@BellularGaming Don't worry, it's all good! It shows you're a good content creator when even with oversights, I love your videos!
I’m having a lot of fun playing this patch. I’m enjoying trying my alts which still feel under powered but it’s still a blast
I am really excited for what is coming up!
In one of the dialogue bits while running through the quest, one of the Paladins tries to justify stealing the relic by saying Elisande will join the Legion, only for another one to point out this ISN'T our Elisande and there's no guarantee she will. So yeah, it's a separate timeline's FemShep Elf.
Yo.. what's up with dalaran? kind of forgot about that floating city...
That titan machinery is Atherotz Titan Gear set. Shiny stuff.
There is something I still confuse with, a lot of people were saying that elves are again eternal because of Amirdrassil, I mean, isn’t Hyjal still up there since cata?
Amirdrassil didn't make elves eternal, dunno where they're getting that. Nozdormu and Alexstrasza's blessings made the elves immortal, and they explicitly didn't bless the tree, the tree blessed them.
Well I know the khadgar is happening during party but the Thrall and Jaina's Vision where was it? Seems I miss it completely.
I believe 10.2.9 will introduce delves. I think the follower dungeons in 10.2.5 is a beta test for delves AI and then 10.2.9 will introduce delves into the game to get people used to them (and to test them) before 11.0 comes out. I certainly would want to beta test heavily something that you plan to introduce as a new pillar of your game.
AI dungeons are right on track for returning and new players as well, I just came back after 1000 years and got quest for some dungeon and all dungeon finder groups just blaze through like crazy.
Spot on, I was going to suggest the same in the comment son that Talesin video but got severely sidetracked with an anime.
I believe you are on the dot!
I know we got the Kul TIrans and all, but Im hoping by the Last Titan Expac that we get some sort of Vrykul as an allied race like the Panderen. Would be a cool repemption arc after the fall of Arthas.
They're also already in the Horde
speaking of stuff under other stuff, there is so much space under ogrimmar as we saw in the siege of ogrimmar, wonder why it was never used for anything after the raid
is all this tyr stuff after downing fyrrak? how do i start it? missed 10.1 if that's where all of it was
The friend Khadgar in my opinion is talking about is probably Alleria, he tells us that an old enemy is lurking in the SHADOWS, Alleria is a has accepted the Void's gift and what not and in one of the trailers for War Within we see her flying to Dalaran sooo I think it's pretty obvious imo
Khadgar's "old friend" is most likely Alleria. We already know she is deeply involved in WW, and of course she fought with Khadgar during theSecond War and the Alliance Expedition to OG Draenor.
Honestly, I'm more excited by the prospect of another Elisande out in the timeways than I am Tyr, which I'm also excited about
Man really after all the DF patches, everytime Chromie speaks out out of nowhere I am like "STFU CHROMIE".
The Titan Keepers at Ulduar are solidly on our side, but they are still working on their jobs as well. We deal with them quite frequently during Legion. Hunters and Engineers deal with Thorim and Mimir frequently. The only ones we don't really deal with all that much are Hodir and Freya, but I doubt they wouldn't be amenable to work with us, and even side with us over the Titans. The only one I think who wouldn't do anything but grovel at their feet is Odyn, but he needs a boopin anyways.
@darkmindaustin I'm going to have to disagree with your second claim. The fact of the matter is...... Odyn was not seeking for the Titans. He was not worried about the Titans. He did not ask about the Titans during Legion nor after. He did not go with us to Antorus to free them. He did not ask us about the Titans when we returned. He did not speak to the Titans before, during, or after. The Titans did not ask about Odyn nor give any message for Odyn. None of the keepers at Ulduar mentioned Odyn nor asked about Odyn nor contacted Odyn. Even when we freed Odyn from his captivity during the trial of valor raid and at the end when he said he thinks he may visit Ulduar.....not once do we ever see him there, or hear from the ulduar keepers that he had ever shown up or said anything to them. Not in Legion, not in BFA, not in Shadowlands, not in Dragonflight. From every shred of evidence we can gather....... Odyn isn't doing what the Titans want right now, and the actual Titans seem oblivious to his existence.
It is so stark and absolute......... that part of me thinks the conspiracy that Metzen mentions saving for the 3rd expansion of the saga at Ulduar might end up being a reveal that Odyn felt so resentful and egotistical that when he lifted up his little private realm long in the past he turned into a villain and has been conducting his own revenge against the Dragon Aspects and the Titans both. Since he had some time magic..... it is even possible that he purposefully changed the past and engineered the creation of the primal incarnate dragons just to spite the Aspects and interfere with them and try to overthrow them and shame them. It is entirely possible that primal incarnate dragons were "NOT" part of the true timeline at all. It would also make sense, given that Odyn has lightning dragons and was in charge of the halls of lightning before Loken took it from him. It would also explain why Odyn doesn't give a damn about Azeroth and never came to help during BFA at the heart chamber or anything with N'Zoth.
A non-withered Runas is found in Suramar during the questline. He even says he feels some weird connection with you even though he can't remember ever meeting you.
Blessed Mother Xal’atath!
Khadgar's old friend could be alleria
Tyr is the aspects' loving step-father
hope to see some dialog between Vyranoth and Tyr2.0 before we move onto the war within. i mean he is a primary contributing factor to a war amongst the dragons and the kidnapping of dragon eggs.
Guarantee that will be glossed over, if even mentioned at all.
Don't get your hopes up for anything meaningful. Metzen is back, but the other writers are still employed unfortunately.
@allyjackson5978 That is not canon. Outside books, Metzen rule, not canon.
@@laertesindeed what isn't cannon?
@@allycard A mop isn't a cannon; a chevy cutlass is not a cannon, the capital of Lithuania is not a cannon....I suppose I could go on, but I won't.
This reminds me of the time we had to write a story back when I was 8 and in 3rd grade and read it to the class. I smashed so many ideas into it bouncing all over the place with these great details and characters and secrets I thought up. Regardless of how amazing I knew my story was, everyone in the class was confused and bored to death two pages in and just wanted me to shut up and sit down.
"I made stuff up as a lazy allegory for my opinion of the story"
@@OhNoTheFace "I'm so cynical that I need to accuse someone of lying to make their point on a comment in a video."
@@CosmicCleric If that helps. You will believe anything apparently
@@OhNoTheFace at least I'm not so cynical that I have to critique somebody's story about something that happened to them when they were in the third grade.
@@CosmicCleric Jesus, you belive that huih. Not that he needed a thinly vieled fake story to take a "stab" at wow
They're clearly setting up Tyr as a future ally. Alexstrasza and Vyranoth will have something to say about the egg altering- thing, but since he'll discover the Aspects (including Vyranoth) were blessed by Azeroth herself, he'll probably switch his allegiance from the Titans to Azeroth, like us. At least he won't be subservient to Odyn anymore. He'll be more convinced than ever the dragonflights have proven their worth as defenders of Azeroth. He might accompany us in The War Within, but most of all, I could see him as our guide in The Last Titan. He could even rally the other Keepers of Ulduar against Iridikron.
The evil ice dragon vyranoth "altered" and murdered more eggs than any force on Azeroth. And no, we don't have "ANY" evidence that azeroth blessed any dragons, we only have unreliable narrator borg collective hivemind sentence-finishing "tell instead of show" stuff from the cinematic. Given the evil stuff that was going on inside the emerald dream (and not just the mind control fire bosses, I mean the pure cosmic team Life beings that did evil stuff to us and showed disdain for mortals) .....it seems even more clear to me that it is likely Evil Cosmic Team Life lied to the dragons and forced them to be enslaved in a Hivemind. Thus stealing them away from titans and making us totally vulnerable and helpless against Time, Magic, Earth, Life, and Dream.
I thought Nolaki was a Zandalari?
Also - Elisande gives you the discs after being asked nicely, but she clearly states that she has ALREADY FOUND what she needs to save her people. In this point in time, it seems like she has yet to make a deal with the Burning Legion. Could the Discs have told her about the Titan Machinery beneath the tomb of sargeras? A figure of power like Elisande, suddenly being given knowledge from the present, could definitely do something drastic with that information - something that could have a ripple affect throughout time.
I DEMAND WORGEN PALADINS
Jennifer Hale is a stellar voice actor and a wonderful person. I really love her performance as Shepard so I'm glad to hear her voice here and there in WoW.
Was nice to see her character become the new Aspect of the Green dragons too!
We were told in the questline that it wasn't 'our Elisande'
A video on everything tyr missed after he die would be very usefull right now 😉 😉.
Do you have to kill Farak to get to this point?
08:16 Tyr was serving 💅
Nolaki is a Zandalari Troll tho, not regular Troll. Unless im missing something.
This was what I thought as well. Which since Zandalari Trolls can already be the paladin class, the only non-current paladin class shown in this quest series is the KT Humans.
Can you do a video on Medhiv? I would have sworn that dude was dead
The battle for K'thant was in whats now the tomb of sargeras.
So Elisande is coming back now that she has the ability to travel across timelines. The last titan is Sargeras so he's coming back for his sword and Illidan should follow. Should be an interesting trilogy if they don't mess it up.
tweeter account of watcher tyr didn't exist, i'm so sad ! I want to say Tyr some words of his job , alextrasah home work and her so many guys !!!
They are not full patches. No raid tier, just another expansion that the player base has allowed to be shorter, like WoD and SL.
The fact that he wears a hood says it all. Although you'd wonder what the hell he's trying to hide being a 15 foot tall giant.
Maybe he's just stylish in a robotic way. /shrug
REALLY want a convoy between Tyr and Algalon. You want to talk about someone who has been pondering all this time, it's gotta be our starry boy. 😂
In last titan woo
Dang I'm early! Sweet, perfect time for a Bellular video!
Tyr: By the the love & power of family we will overcome all!
Remember when we made a night elf priest into a night elf paladin in legion? Yeh blizzard sure doesnt....
Bel you realize that Jenifer Hale has voiced a million other characters in WoW right?
The biggest thing about Iridikron that we should never forget. He went back in time. IN the Dawn of the Infinites dungeon. That ws 20k years ago. So. He goes through that portal. 20k years ago. And he has been out there for the last 20k years.. Growing in power. Just imagin how insanely powerfull he will be next time we see him. 20k years of growing. Will be smething that maybe not even the Aspects, now empowered will be able to fight against. Together. Hell. For all we know Iridikron has been in the world. Running around. Doing some stuff. Like changing stuff. That would lead to the Nerubians.. Existing in other places. Like War Within. Because they are suposed to be in NORTHREND:. Not anywhere else. In Silithus we have the Aqir.... In Pandaria we have the Mantid. So.. Where are these ones located? And why are they located there. We still dont know where Khaz Algar even is located.. Under The sword? Somewhere out at sea? It should be probably located somewhere near Eastern Kingdom considering the Arathi people are in the expansion. But will be interesting to see. Maybe there was some time manipulation that hapened. That took a group of Nerubians to another place. Where they formed their own kingdom. Under orders from Xalathat. Because these are old god servants. They LIVE for them. So Who knows. Will be interesting to see. Especialy. Since Xalathat was somehow able to uplift and evolve them.. Using Dark Blood.
I had not considered the fact that Iridikron left through the portal in the past, which would mean he has existed concurrently to our timeline for the 20k years you mentioned. I'm looking forward to how his character it utilized moving forward!
Nope, couldn't possibly work that way because we saw Xal'atath in the background. At that point she was still trapped in the blade. Maybe they have the ability to travel through time without deios but hard to say.
he probably died because of natural aging.
/written by neil druckmann.
@@tbag7267 Old Gods and Void have the power to impact time. You remember that story where multiple people from the current timeline were pulled into the past. BACK to the war of the ancients or right before it. The story of how Tyrande met Broxigar. How he was gifted with a magical axe. That slew so many Burning Legion soldiers. Even going so far to manage to hurt Sargeras before he was defeated. All of that. BEcuase of the old gods. Somehow pulling in, because of a time anomaly. Pulling in Rhonin, Broxigar and Korialstrasz. Look up the Warcraft War of the Ancients Trillogy. But event hen. We dont know when Xalathat was put in there. For all we know. This is Xalathat. The one from BFA. But slightly diferent. Because of what hapened when we went back in time to the Black Empire days. And had Nzoth recognise us. Finding out what timeline it is. Seeing the future. He instructed Xalathat to do certain things. Certain things in the past.
So, if you're not a raider, how much of this story can you experience? Will it be like going to the movies, but not being allowed to see the end of the movie? Honestly asking.
I hope so, the raids are easy as fuck
The whole tyr storyline is a bunch of quests anyone can do without any requirements (maybe a few quest you have to do before you can start it) it has nothing to do with the raid
@@janlont818 I haven't returned to the game yet, so I'm only going off of memories of storyline from previous expansions.
Its good to hear that the complete storyline can be had without having to step into a raid. That is what you are saying, right?
Edit: typo
@@jtowensbyiii6018 "I hope so, the raids are easy as fuck"
You hope so what?
Its not the raids themselves that are the problem, its the type of player that does raiding that I don't want to waste my recreational time with (its never gone well in the past), that is.
I don't want the story that I'm paying for 'Raidwalled'.
Edit: Added the quote.
@@CosmicClericyeah you don’t have to step into the raid at all
We have Zandalari Troll paladins. That's exactly what Nolaki is.
Real trolls
As a Zanddalari prelate player, I would call her a heretic. We serve Rezan, the loa of kings, not some umies childish philosophy or aliens glowing puzzles.
@@35961107 She still serves the Loa, and never implied she would stop. She's just banded with a group of others to fight her own battles.
@35961107 you mean the dead guy? 😂
@@OhNoTheFace Zandalari are real trolls. We are the OG trolls.
A "scuffed" take would've also sufficed
Darkspear Troll Loa based paladins huh? Hmm :O
Elisande said this timeway, i dont think its our timeline
My monitor is 2-3 years old and it had 244Hz...
What if Iridrikons plans force Titans to attack us, so we will take care of them..?
It's possible the essence of Galakrond stuck into the Void Soul Amulet Thingy which Iridikron had will maybe decay and destroy the Titan pantheon in the 3rd saga expansion.....but the players may awaken Azeroth into a real Titan instead of just a world soul and she then assists us in defeating Iridikron and his amulet and his master Yogg-Saron and the master of yogg-saron the void lords. As the only one still alive...... Azeroth would qualify as the Last Titan.
isnt troll paladin already a thing?...
How many characters in WOW does Jennifer Hale play at this point?
I LIKE HOW TIATN KEEPERS ARE CYBER YET RENESAUNCE AS WELL, LIKE HOW THEY THOUGHT OF THE BELT DESIGN, IS JUST GENIAL, .. THIS PATTERN
"@hammerboi69"
You guys are too much lol
"Troll paladins will be a thing".
Zandalari paladins: Are we a joke to you?
Yes. I want the darkspear ones
"are you pondering what I'm pondering ?" - "I think so, but how will we get the Spice Girls into the paella?" 😆
Bring me NELF paladins please 🤣
Are we ever going to address that our characters murder all of Tyr’s friends and followers for fucking nothing
I dont know how the 10.2 ends, but is weird that we reached almost the end of the Dragonflight expansion and we have not got any information about the dozens of big questions since it started. Who are the Primal Incarnates, who they where before, who gave them power, why they waged war against the Titans, and the Aspects? and so on. We got stories but we did not get any answer or a glimpse of an answer for the big questions.
Answering the listed questions in order: The Primal Incarnates are the leaders, and most powerful members, of the dragons that didn't like the titans. Before that there were just normal Proto-dragons living Proto-dragon lives. Some of them were friends/family to the pre-ascension Aspects. The source of their power is vague, implied to be taken from the elements, just, in general. Similar to how shamans do it, but when you're one generation descended from being a straight-up elemental, it probably works way better. They went to war against the Aspects because they sided with the titans, who were literal alien invaders trying to rule the world and brainwash the dragon's children.
@@TheFamilyLedger you still didnt answer his questions that literally what the game vaguely tell you but still no actual information. Just bad story writing.
@@hoothoot673 Which of the listed questions did I not answer? All of the information I wrote down is either outright stated, or at least heavily implied in game, with the exception of where the incarnates got their powers, which was told to us by the Devs at the Dragonflight reveal.
@@TheFamilyLedger You didn't answer the questions at all...... you did a Taliesin obfuscation routine where you assumed what it was that you thought you had to prove; but for which none of it is in the game. When asked why the dragons were able to come back to the dragon isles..... Tali tried to tell his chat "the dragons came back because the dragons came back" ...and when his chat called him on his circular logic that doesn't give any answer; he banned them all from his chat. You saying that the primal incarnates are primal incarnates because they are primal incarnates does not answer any question. We still don't know.
@@TheFamilyLedger You also just lied..... because no developers at the Dragonflight reveal "EVER" told us where the primal incarnates got their power.
But Troll Paladins ARE a thing... it's just that they're Zandalari.
A N Y H O W
As a returning player, I had no idea what order this came in. I was doing this Tyr quest for the scale, thinking maybe it would progress me on the Emerald Island thingy with the druids, but now realise the Tyr narrative is a prerequel to it all. Ha, confusing.
The storytelling is so funny man. "the disc is yours" line is just like Vyranoth being our enemy, never forgive Alex but in the next cinematic they are best friends 🤣
If they ran out of time and cut stuff to make the deadlines, so be it, BUT ADMIT IT. SL and DF are cut af, but they still denying when its clear we skip parts of the storylines...
Some people when someone decides to not go full Disney villain after already obtaining the info they wanted
We have revived tyr to only have him rethink how useless he is in this time. Itsnt that cruel XD
Tyr is going to overthow Odin
Arch-deus? It's Ar-kae-das xD
So many cool and interesting stories have been created based on a misunderstanding of Norse Mythology, so imagine how great the stories could be if based on real Norse Mythology.
Wait a minute, if life is chaos? Aren’t the Titans part of life too.. they are living things aren’t they? So the Titans are actually contradicting themselves?
The titans are more mechanical and robotic than life. When they say life is chaos they're talking about Life magic and its derivatives; they're Arcane and its derivatives.
@@TaliesinMyrddin I still don't know why people say that. The lore in warcraft has proven over and over and over again that the Titans are not robots. They are not the stone or mechanical bodies in the slightest. They are stellar magical living beings.....that can create temporary physical bodies if they want to interact. But....... @Akathuty , I think you may be confused. In the written down myth of Aman'thul and Eonar and the tree..... Aman'thul did not say life is chaos, he said specifically that "The World Tree" was chaos, and not part of their plan, and was dangerous by itself...... which, incidentally, we have proven it absolutely is dangerous and chaos and can lead to evil. Draenor with the Overmind botani evil proved that. Keep in mind, the "plan" and "order" Aman'thul was putting in place did not exclude life at all, it included life and protected life and was binding life to their titanforged constructs. He just didn't want there to be any Borg Collective hivemind ruining the planet and threatening the world soul deep below.
@@laertesindeed Some of the oldest lore said the titan's bodies are more metallic than flesh, which is why I meant mechanical. It was the wrong word though, I meant made more of the elements. As for robotic, I meant in their outlook - I don't consider them truly alive, as they have largely behaved in a manner akin to robots, in that they have a prime directive that they seek to carry out, much like their own creations (at least until they develop souls, as seems to happen).
They're not truly robotic, but I don't think they have the spark of life that makes them count as capital-L Life aligned, as the OP was asking about.
So we about to kill tyr for good when his done pondering? I mean he's a lackey of the titans, which are our enemies just as the dragons(which are the titans' pets)
ODYN IS WOW'S VERSION OF OPTIMUS PRIME
The game dies the moment peace is established in the World of Warcraft.
I'm sorry, but... I just don't see how Oridikron, a Disney-looking villain, expects to defeat the Titans? Feel like we've seen so little of his powers that it seems completely ridiculous. I mean, I would expect a fight with the Titans to be like a huge kaiju fight, not some Disney sing-along.
8:10 False. We don't have "ANY" evidence that Tyr created Galakrond, not even accidentally. That was a plot conducted by Loken and Yogg-Saron. Tyr was thankfully someone that created a method of cleansing away that evil corruption and preventing it from affecting dragon eggs incubated there. We seriously need to stop having people misrepresent the actual text of quests and spewing out their head canon.
It’s implied that Tyr went a bit too far when experimenting with elemental infusion. After observing earth, water, fire and air, we then see a quote where Tyr wonders what other elements he can infuse - there are only two more elements, Spirit and Decay.
Looking at Galalrond, he exemplifies Decay characteristics far more than old god ones. Also note how Tyr blames himself for Galakrond. Seems fairly clear given what Galakrond is infused by that it’s elemental decay. TLDR: looks clear that Tyr made a decay drake, and then the corrupted waters allowed Yogg to exploit that. Again, note how Galakrond doesn’t exemplify the Void/Old God traits we see in other old god corrupted beings.
Calmly dismantled by chad Bellular
@@Kurnhelios Demonstrating you had no evidence and didn't read.
I got "If The Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech Device" vibes after he sat down and wanted to be filled in on whats been going on for the last 10,000+ years.
Nolaki is a Zandalari Troll......
I got my white dragon skins and white gold armors yesterday. They are so great I wonder why I've seen NOBODY else use them..... oh right, yes, they literally don't go with a single tmog. Unless you're a priest maybe, and even then it's a slim picking.
Still, it felt nice using something that I saw nobody else use lol
What Tyrs return means? it means a longer story about titans that people are bored of and blizzard cant seem to find a decent way to end it unless its boring us with a finale in another expansion. Cant wait to speak with not to scale NPCs who need re educating about a woke new world in azeroth
As You mentioned Chromie... it's only me or others also annoyed by Chromie's voice? :/
Problem is when they start using love, friendship and family gives them the power you know the story is going nowhere. Nothing can pull the story back to a cohesive story once you roll that out. Game might as well be marketed to under 5-year-olds now. Tyr would have been cool once but honestly this story has destroyed any hope and interest I had.
WASHED TAKE
Can't wait for Tyr to plunge down to stop some sort of big baddie's attack from crushing us, throw the big baddie back and declare "Yaaas queens, slaaay".
Wouldn't that just be *riveting* storytelling. I can smell the bile rising already!🤣
Night elf paladins please
>What Tyr's Return Means For WoW In 2024
More Titan propaganda that's for sure. Can't wait until the Titan creation myth comes undone and we find out they've never made anything they haven't stolen. 😎
Lads I can't imagine being stuck in Belfast city centre after editting this video all evening then posting it. Will you be getting a valucabs home or not?
lets be real, no matter how much teasers blizz put out, how much lore digging and theory crafting you do, or how big the universe or lore seem to be, in the end, it'll be the same as always - super cheesy and shallow. big bads will have some plan to destroy the world, players will need x or y item to win, main characters will talk about their feelings and power of friendship, defeat remaining DF baddies with some heroic orchestra music, more talk about feelings, and then some foreshadowing cliff hanger for the next expansions.
another wow expac wasted on bad story telling. just like shadowpoop and bfa. i dont think wow players are capable of saying no to a bad product just because no other mmo fits their needs. its as if a person is willingly reentering a toxic relationship with the hopes that their partner will change staying for the fun and finding out it wasnt ever that fun. the good times have past and we have to move on to 13.0 i hope it changes.