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Painting an entire miniature using The Army Painter's Speed Paints
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- Trying out @The Army Painter 's new Speed Paint range and painting up a Blood Angel! Nice to compare this to a Blood Angel painted with contrast a few years back.
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Clean the minis by removing all those mold lines / bumps with a blade or even the back of the hobby blade for smoother surface, so the contrast paint / speed paint doesnt build arround those defects of the plastic.
Never got into Contrast or Speed Paints... I just kept going with what I knew.
But my kid bought a Star Wars Legion starter set... And man did I not feel like spending hours on those B1s. His first minis to paint too.
Looked up how other people went about powering through those, and ended up just buying Army Painter's Pallid Bone.
That went pretty damn well. So had to buy Holy White for the clones... Again, pretty damn nice.
So I just bought the set and I'm hooked. I'll stick with the OG painting for the special figures... But these are amazing when you just need to get it done fast.
That’s a perfect use for these kind of paints. You don’t need to be one or the other, you can be both and use the tool you need for the job. I absolutely love Speedpaints/contrast and it’s now how I painted 90% of the time. BUT I paint properly when it matters or the model requires it! Just finished my friends bday present which I painted with acrylics because I want an amazing finished single piece
Every time I watch someone paint using speedpaints as opposed to contrasts it looks better. I think the same consistency among the range is a killer feature. Everyone who tried using ultramarine blue contrast will know how inconsistent some contrasts are from the other ones, while speedpaints seem to work similar regardless of color. I will be getting the whole set of speedpaints.
Have you considered doing a video on what it looks like if you mix some of the speedpaint? Like combining two colors to give a different shade I don't know if that's possible or if you have already considered that but if you did I for one would love to see a video I'm sure the others would
I second this
This! I´ve mixed contrastpaints many times and it works well. I hope the same goes for speedpaints. And if you are looking for a ultramarine blue then you might need to mix your speedpaint blues to get the colour you want. Cheers and thanks for the video!
Working on this video as we speak!
Same with thinning them. Honestly contrast paint almost feel like they need to be thinned with glaze medium, would be interesting to see how well it kicks up the contrast with these as well.
I like the look of the Speed Paints. Can't wait to try them.
I am impressed! I'll be adding this to my range alongside Contrast. Thank you.
I have been using these Speed Paints almost exclusively for my Shadows of Brimstone cowboys and enemies and they usually come out great. I would caution people that they tend to get super dark if you try to put on a second coat. My dark blue turned pretty much black with a second coat, so it's something you really have to plan around while they are still wet.
11:16, Freudian Slip detected
I think that to solve those issues of bumps and molding marks, just use a sharp hobby knife to trim that off, or even a small hobby file to smooth it out. Contrast style paints will find those flaws and pool in them, so you really need to be sure to clean your models
I think a color theory video using the speed paints would be cool. Like "get these cool effects by priming your model in this color, then painting it with X!" Or something like "layer your speed paints to create various shades and effects that you can't by simply mixing the paints beforehand!"
I'd like to see a mini with a Zenithal highlight, applied with airbrush and dry brush fully painted with speed paints
Looks great can't wait to get my hands on the speedpaint :D
Very nice job! Inspiring! I would love to see the models from the Imperium 40k magazine painted. Necrons… ultramarines… etc. thanks again! I can’t wait to give painting a go.
This just looks awesome. Good job!
The 'dirty' pools totally fit the space marine and the whole 40k setting. Great work and video!
Thanks Gene!
I wonder how well a varnish before applying the Speed Paint would work, I imagine it would help it better to make the panel line shading flow better.
The pooling on the pack whilst unintentional and unwanted kind of looks like a blaster burn anyway.
Just extra battle damage
Oooh. That’s a good point!
@@WatchItPaintIt it honestly gives the model more character. I think it looks epic!
it looks like poor spru clean up !
Well done. Thanks for sharing
very nice work . I've been mainly using a slapshop method for painting some mini's and I found using some of the armypainter soft/strong tone over the mini also helps give the good dirt and grime effect specially on brighter colours. I do like the highlord blue as a Ultramarine alternate as I prefer the slightly more brighter 90's style UM blue over the darker version they are today
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Eye of the beholder and price to preference. After seeing what I’ve been looking at I’m going to go with speed paint basic set and try it myself
Cheaper means you get what you pay for. Honestly the Army Painter contrasts tend to leave a more consistent color tone when they dry, not giving enough of the true contrast like the Citadel stuff does. Hate to say it, but Citadel got it right the first time.
Great video by the way. Like the finished product.
Thank you very much!!!
I mean... Army Painter has basically made a customer out of me. XD Between all these demonstrations, and the price, and the fact Army Painter seems to be a much friendlier, more respecting company I'm buying speedpaint.
I mean even if Speedpaint was half as good for being half the price so what? At least they didn't sue my favorite animation out of business and try to sell me "seasons" to outdate their own rules every six months.
Oh whaaaat? What company sued an animation studio? I haven't heard anything about that. That sounds disappointing
@@edgfigueroa Well not "sued" yet. But GW claim that any animation, whether it's non profit or not, is copy-write infringement and they will sue.
Nevermind that Disney, freaking Disney, let's people do star wars animations.
@@shocker1209081 People keep freaking out over nothing. Only animation that stopped was TTS, and that wasnt GW. That was the animator getting worried and cutting the series, blaming GW
@@aidanquiett668 It was TTS, Sodaz, and Astartes. Yeah TTS shut down willingly, but Sodaz and Astartes were given the ultimatum to join and take down their animations or just take down their animations. No middle ground.
Yeah, the IP laws changed, but they could have said "Only Non-Profit animations are allowed." Would sucks to try and make cash on patreon but hey, that's fair.
Besides, it's their behavior in general. Nuking animations to push Warhammer +, that toxic NDA, not paying their workers properly, warhammer seasons, the warzone books, mono-pose Orks, etc. They just *lost my business* and I'm happy Army Painter is stepping up to fill the gap.
@@shocker1209081 Astarte isnt even in warhammer plus. Its free on warhammer community. And Sodaz as far as I know wasnt forced, they just saw a good opportunity and took it. As for you not using them anymore, thats up to you, but for a lot of stuff GW is still best in business so I'll be using their stuff in many cases
Look great! My only beef with Speed paints/contrast is if you accidentally get another color on it you have to go back to white, then re-add the contrast and it won't look quite the same as the first coat :(
The more videos I see on these paints, the more excited I get for them. Already got my order in at the FLGS. Now it's just the waiting...
It's called a holster, pouches carry ammo and other utilities.
That’s the word!!! Nice one
cool. I didnt know they had metalics speedpaint paints!
They don’t! They just work really well over the top of silver. Making a metallic version of the colour you apply
Looks great. need to check the greens for Slamanders!
oh sure thing, - Watch It Paint It - loves the Armypainter Green Speedpaint. Please ask him about it!
Gun pouch? Lol, "holster" is the word you were looking for, I think. Great video, though!
Haha. At least I didn’t say gun purse!!! :-D holster!!! That’s the one :-D thank you!!!
zenithal base + speed paint is *chefs kiss*
For People that only want to paint theyr Army for Table this Colours are a Good Choice
Would love to see that ultra marines speed paint when you do it.
I think the pooling looks somewhat like dirt so it’s excusable but definitely needs a lot of care if clean armour is the intention!
I wonder what the blues look like on a light/pastel green, so maybe that's some nice basecoat to get a nice blue?
Red Ultramarine = Blood angel? Dem's fighting words, son.
:-D :-D
The red looks amazing
Gonna try and get a speed paint I'm in Australia
Glad you liked it. Let us know how you get on!
@@WatchItPaintIt have you got a speed paint white scar video? White looks fantastic but it's hard to paint
You know damn well that hay joke was stupid and you know damn well we all laughed at it 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha. This made my day
If you've got a dark blue speed paint, you might consider doing Crimson Fists. Blue all over, except red for the fists (obviously). Maybe that could work? Give some love to the sons of Dorn.
Alternative title : Getting that VA VA Voom with speed paints
Love this. Also been laughing that I said that for a week :D
The pooling issues can look off at first, but imo once you have the models done, and applied decals etc it usually just adds to a grimy feel
I love the red ultramarines
What about a 50/50 mix of the two blue Speed Paint colors to see how it looks for an Ultramarine?
You are just taunting us with your non-knowledge of 40k lore. I love it! :D
Honestly wish you dry burshed him to add alil highlighting without adding too much time. This does look awesome tho, might try it myself.
Honestly, touch up the flat surfaces with some opaque red and you're good to go.
A double 00 for a gun, patience is a virtue 😄
I thought you had stopped making videos but it turns out CZcams decided I no longer needed to be notified of your new content...
Oh no! CZcams keeping us apart! :-D glad you found us again :-)
@@WatchItPaintIt I missed you guys so much... ;-)
Now I have to find something to do with all of my Contrast Paints... I'm switching over
Love these videos thank you for making them!!
Plan on using the speedpaints for my skaven army so lots of fur/skin and dark and dirty clothing to do...
You’re welcome! I was testing some things on a skaven, the speedpaints work well on them!
@@WatchItPaintIt ah good to hear, sometimes it's hard to imagine how the paint applied to a space marine would look on (for instance) a lumineth or skaven model.
Sort of a weird question but do you think a "camouflage" paint job with these paints is possible or wet blending?
Man that BloodRed looked awesome wet ..
first look it good but second look i think its to matt, my bloodangels are painted with normal paint and that gives the a little shine :)
If you like a shine to the armor, you can spray it with a satin varnish afterwards. We typically spray all of our models with a matte varnish.
Love this, I've been doing aos for some time but am now going to get into 40k, I am still finding it super hard to decide on blood angels vs salamanders for colours amd lore, plus buying seems a bit more difficult as they don't seem to have start collecting boxes but it'll be sick! Thanks for the video!
What I mean't to ask was if you could do a salamander for comparison?
Something you could do for the blunder on the powerpack is make it look like a bullet wound making it into battle damage
Great video! Highlights and contrast were always dificult for me. This would probably spike my interest even more than the speed part! One subject I don't see touched often with speed/contrast paint videos is can we mix them? Like a blue and gray speed paint to get a blue grey color? will it still retain it's property then? The other thing is color transition. I like to do wet bending passing not only from a dark to lighter tone but often from one color to another (yay for tentacles!). Thank you for taking the time do these clear and simple videos.
Edit: I see that this was already asked in the comments, so sorry for the repeat! Well if it's not too late I would love for you to touch the subject of wet blending and gradients too! Thanks.
Thank you for this video, was really curious about the reds from this range (I have a thing for various shades and hews of red). I think this 'Blood Red' compares favorably to 'BA red' contrast.
P.S. The emblem on the breastplate are commonly referred to as 'aquilla', or literally 'chest eagle'.
But, if we are to be pedantic, most marines carry a winged skull known as 'Imperialis'.
Aquila!!! That’s the word I was trying to think of all video. Thank you :) Glad the video is of interest!
Would painting with downward strokes towards the crevises maybe help the pooling ?
Classic red ultramarine
Id love to see these through an air brush, the best ways ive seen people use contrast was through an air brush in terms of best effects.
I don't think these would look good through an airbrush, and they wouldn't be able to work how they do off a brush. The reason the Citadel Contrast looks cool through an airbrush is because they're glazing/using it as a color filter; since those paints don't actually work well to give "contrast." I get my APSP set in two weeks, and I'm excited to try them. I'm also about to do some vehicles with the Citadel Contrasts, so I'm all over the place. LUL
Speed paint is more consistent than most contrasts from GW and is almost always less streaky. Contrast Medium is better than plain speedpaint medium in my experience, but not by enough to justify the price difference and shitty bottle. If you start from a darker colour, give it a quick drybrush with a nice light grey for cool hues or light brown for warm hues, then do your speed/contrast over, that will get you tons more depth and you can go back with your drybrush color and just edge highlights on the upward faces, or faces going toward your light source.
The key for me is to put fifty percent paint and fifty percent medium and minimizes the pools of paint.
This is a good tip!
Very cool! Have you had any trouble wtih the speedpaints reactivating? It looks like you were able to paint white and metallics right over them with no issue?
Really enjoy your videos - very professional. Ok, I'm converted to Speed Paints - your fault lol !!. My favourite period is WW2 .... would love to see what you can do with same when you've got the full paint range.
I have seen a few people discuss a problem with the Army Painter Speed Paint reactivating when painting on second layers for highlights and such. Did you have a problem with that? This model did not get any highlighting so it is tough to tell from this video.
I didn’t have any issues and I put a lot of dry brush highlights on the terrain piece I did. But I’ll keep an eye for that now I’m aware it could happen!
that apparently happens when you thin down the paint quite a bit either with medium or water and use it for highlight or glaze over (it's specially messy when glazing and totally not recommended). Some colors like blues and reds tend to reactivate more than others. The big issue is further layers of Speedpaints reactivate each other, and sometimes even regular acrylics when trying to cover up mistakes. People are using varnish coats to avoid that, but I don't like it at all and just make me think these paints aren't adequate for that kind of uses. Regular highlight or drybrush with paints straight from the pot or lightly thinned don't seem to reactivate Speedpaints so, it is not at issue at all if you don't use advanced techniques and just want to get tabletop standard, as far as you are careful using them.
You may use dark primer, drybrushing it and then paint with Speedpaints:)
11:18. Lol
Speed paint a AoS Chaos Knight…. Maybe 😁
I think speed paints are equal to Contrast. but One thing I notice alot of people doing is, not applying enough Contrast so they dont get those nice Shadows like with your example model.
They don't have the same consistency. The AP speedpaints are a bit thinner, but have a HIGH pigment load, so they have strong staining power. They do the same job, but they feel different on the brush.
@@WatchItPaintIt Ive not touched speed paints yet, but al Im commenting on is how Lightly it looks you applied the contrast red.
Would be very interesting to see how this paint is with thin airbrush coats on a gloss varnish.
Do you think Absolution Green would work for Dark Angels?
I think so ;-)
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If you airbrush the contrast paints you get better coverage on flat surfaces.
@ 11:13 umm... 😆
Someone was paying attention! :-D
Is this the Army speed paint 2.0? or previous version. I would love to invest in getting one of their big sets to start painting.
This was 1.0 but if you check our latest ultramarine video you can see the results for 2.0 (just in blue) and a few tips for doing better with Speedpaint on marines
@@WatchItPaintIt Thank you. Watching now!
Do you have a speed paint video on speed painting Skitarii Rangers?
No, would you like one? We can see what we can do!
@Watch It Paint It Yes, please, thanks.
Mike here: I'm painting 15 right now ;) I could do a vid on it.
Spicy boi
Vavavoom! That's trademarked right? (-:
Nice work, the red turned out really nice! Certainly lookin' forward to giving these paints a whirl.
As for the shine on the Contrast one. While they do dry a bit satiny, nothing like that. So must've been varnished, imho.
Now, let's paint another space marine in that lovely flesh tearer red (the one you used for the purity seal).
Finally, I wonder if one can get the deep red colour when it's dry. How the colour looks when applied, before it dries i mean.
Understood you only got the starter-set?
Is there a color from the Master-set you would have wanted to test on this model? (besides the blue)
Wondering if I should wait march or just go for the Starter now...
I have the mega set now! I will see if it has a blue for ultramarines. I just wanted to do an ultramarine as I understand that’s the default space marine to paint! But I prefer blood angels anyway
@@WatchItPaintIt Would be good to know if Starter is just good enough, or one would definitely want to have the Mega Set ;)
yellow and white would be a good test as both colors are notoriously rough to get right
How did you get those whites back after your mistakes. Mine just keep bleeding everytime i try to add white.
Inorite! This is how I missed the reactivation/bleed issue. Somehow I didn’t manage to cause it for ages!! I have no idea how I was lucky, i see it a lot now but on this model I kept dodging it. You need to varnish if you want to stop the bleeed, or get speedpaint 2.0 or get really lucky like me? Don’t thin your paint much (keep the paint dry) and don’t rub very much and it might not bleed
Hey i noticed when you where doing your base layer you went over the lines on the shoulder pads, then the next cut you had white over the edges, do you just use a touch up to get all the bits you went over? Thanks 👍
Exactly! Yeah sorry didn’t mention it but that’s what I did
@@WatchItPaintIt brill started into 40k and going full slapchop using the army painter speedpaint (black templars) if you could do a tutorial on them ;) thanks!
How are you finding slapchop with black Templars? I’m not sure I’d do slap chop with black. But maybe I’m missing something. Does it make the black look better? What about using a purple primer. Damn, I’m intrigued now - might have to go try
Blood red FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
I think personally these speed paints are better on models with more textures. Marines don't really show off the contrasts that well imo.
absolutely correct! they look great on textured miniatures, but i think passable on marines and so much faster than normal painting for me at least!
How did you glue the arms to the gun so that they will attach to the body nicely?
Physics!
I think the gun and arms were a single piece :-D :-D
Does a brush on varnish reactivate the speed paint?
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How long did you wait for the red to be dry to apply the white over the red for the knees... ?
Like a week :D but that’s just because I was busy. I’d wait 30 minutes probably given the choice
Go with the dark blue and do Crimson Fist
Do you water down the speed pain as well as the Silver you use??
No to either! Both straight from the pot
Your video says you're using speed paints but I don't seem to have "Claymore Blade" in my set of Army Painter speed paints. Is claymore blade a speed paint? I'm very frustrated that the speed paints from Army Painter didn't come with a metalic coulour or a proper white.
Claymore blade is a normal silver! Any silver will do, I then apply the speed paints over the top to make any of the colours look metallic. It works with a whole bunch of the speedpaints
What paint did you use for the eyes? I’ve been looking for a good green glow.
That’s a good question! I’ll go upstairs and look for you!
It’s a Fallout wash by Secret Weapon. Takes a couple of coats but runs and pools in the eyes super ez
Amazing Video, just started paining again and this has helped me paid my blood angel army extremely quickly.
Just out of curiosity, I cannot find this version of the miniature anywhere. Where did you get it ?
That’s a good question! It was either the starter set for 40k that comes with like 6 Marines some death guards and pox walkers. Or it was the 40k magazine from a few years ago!
Really glad this video helped you!
@@WatchItPaintIt also just seen the Dark Angel version and has now tempted me to start my 2nd combat patrol 🤣🤦♂️
@@MLIDantos did you see we did Imperial Fists and Salamanders too! I’ll do some more soon, I don’t own many marine figures :-D
@@WatchItPaintIt I did honestly these are fantastic for people getting into the hobby or coming back into it. Honestly brilliant work!
If you could look at doing some Votan or Tau that would be brilliant also!
But from these few videos alone have bought some Army Painter speed paint sets brilliant work honestly.
@@MLIDantos oooh we did a Votan with Speedpaint too! No Tau yet! But I own loads so should probably give it a shot at some point.
Happy painting!
These are so good! Do you think pallid bone would be good for painting deathwing marines?
how long have own thos red grass brush? how long the tip stayed good?
It’s 2-3 years old now. And it was good for about a year. I do not treat my brushes well! I actually have brand new ones but I’ve never switched because these work fine for all my speed painting
@@WatchItPaintIt ok thanks
Could you use the speed paint over Humbrol?
What’s that? :O
Good video, however I think it would have been worth painting up a new model with contrast as well. I know you have the old model, but you are also benefiting from hindsight and experience of working with contrast… so there really isn’t the same learning curve as when contrast came out.
Very good points! I’d also painted a lot with contrast before I did that marine though!
@@WatchItPaintIt thanks for the reply, and for clearing that up for me :)
one point I forgot to say in my first comment was that I liked how you base layered metallic. Really added to the look on both.
Can you highlight over speed paint?
Absolutely! Speedpaint 1.0 can bleed through. But I always find when highlighting it just helps make a really subtle highlight. But to avoid that, Matte varnish first. Speedpaint 2.0 has very little to no bleed
Salamander green would’ve been a good alternative
Release date mid February, but that $18.00 shipping fee is a bit of a turn off.
ouch! hopefully somewhere more local will have these for you!
It looks bloody wonderful, I didnt expect such behavior on the red color. One coat and thats it, it fell into the recesses and boom, shade on baby. I'm really curious for the rest of their color range, how they gonna behave on a model. Till now I was surprised on the colors that you already review. By the way does army announced a release date for the SP serries ?
Yeah it worked better than I was expecting! Starter set releases end of Feb and the mega set is in March
@@WatchItPaintIt Sweet, cant wait to see them on sale. Want to ask if you are planning to run a sum up review before release or wte since you worked with those paints ?
I can see myself buying these and lots of white primer.
Wonder how they'd work on a Zenithal primed model.
With contrast paints, I've used a zenithal black->white if I want extreme contrast in the shadows, or gray->white if I want some more subtlety. But I'd anticipate the speed paints to work similarly and worth trying out for sure.
Did you see we tried this out with a zenithal primed model a few weeks back!
@@WatchItPaintIt must have missed that one, will check it out.
@@TheGn0x I was thinking grey then white would work best.
I’m interested in starting this hobby and your videos have been really helpful! I’m really intrigued by these Speedpaints considering I’ve got a mountain of Marvel United coming soon (and Marvel Zombies later this year). I enjoyed your United tutorials and was wondering if you’ve tried using the Speedpaints on them. I’m worried the larger, flatter, chibi style wouldn’t lend itself well to those paints. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I’ve painted some of my Arcadia Quest using this style of paints. They are also chibi and can come out looking really good! I have started my Marvel United in a flatter, less shaded style so I’m reluctant to try the speed paints on them - which is stupid I know because I’ll never paint them all anyway so why not give one a try :D I think they will work just fine, depending on your expectations but if you’re brand new I think you’ll be very happy!!!
@@WatchItPaintIt That’s great to hear! I totally understand wanting them all to match, but if you change your mind and try them out on a United character, I’d love to see/hear how it went.
Thanks!