The Legacy of Duel Masters. (Seven Deadly TCG Sins: Errata Text)

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  • čas přidán 12. 03. 2021
  • #SevenDeadlyTCGSins #SDSTCG
    Welcome to Errata Text! This is my new followup series to the Seven Deadly TCG Sins series which will observe concepts in Trading Card games, where they succeed and fail, and how to do them better.
    Leading off with a game I have called "How to Make a TCG 101", Duel Masters is a game nearing its 20th birthday which ushered in a new era of TCGs by inspiring the future designers who played it when they were younger.
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  • @AxelWedstar411
    @AxelWedstar411 Před 3 lety +465

    Duel Masters walked so any decent TCG this side of 2010 could run.

    • @bryanmerel
      @bryanmerel Před 3 lety +18

      That phrase couldn't have been use any better than these! I just felt so so so Bad that the time i discovered the game, its already dead....(2007)

    • @kaiser1963
      @kaiser1963 Před 3 lety +29

      Ironically its the number #1 tgc in japan even beating out yu gi oh most of the time

    • @christophercombs7561
      @christophercombs7561 Před 3 lety +2

      If by waljed with a helmet on to make simple games with no depth then sure

    • @khanareeb9725
      @khanareeb9725 Před 3 lety +1

      @Oligoden yes. Even bigger than pokemon and yugioh.

    • @CantusTropus
      @CantusTropus Před 3 lety +2

      @Oligoden MTG has always been weak in Japan, pretty much being confined to university students (albeit they're trying to change that).

  • @katshuma
    @katshuma Před 3 lety +149

    Still playing Duel Masters actively 15 years later with our 15 years old cards.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Před 3 lety

      Do you also play Duel Masters Play's?

    • @katshuma
      @katshuma Před 3 lety +1

      @@BramLastname I hear there is no English translation of the game, so no, I haven't tried it.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Před 3 lety

      @@katshuma that is true,
      It's kinda difficult playing in Japanese,
      But it's a challenge I'm willing to try.

    • @agnivabhattacharya3675
      @agnivabhattacharya3675 Před 3 lety

      you from India?

    • @katshuma
      @katshuma Před 3 lety +1

      @@agnivabhattacharya3675 Finland

  • @sdquad6
    @sdquad6 Před 3 lety +72

    This video gave me such catharsis. I was so exceedingly sad when this game went away, it's so beautiful in a hard to describe way.

  • @AyyyyyyyyyLmao
    @AyyyyyyyyyLmao Před 3 lety +220

    I never realized how heavily Duel masters inspired the new Digimon TCG....

    • @Zanji1234
      @Zanji1234 Před 3 lety +25

      Duel Masters inspired MANY games

    • @BalmungHH0
      @BalmungHH0 Před 3 lety +26

      Its similarities to Duel Masters is what sold a lot of people on the idea of the new game in the months prior to release in Japan last year.

    • @bryanmerel
      @bryanmerel Před 3 lety +22

      Digimon TCG 2020 is basically classic Duelmasters' true successor.

    • @Zanji1234
      @Zanji1234 Před 3 lety +10

      @@bryanmerel actually it was Chrono Clash System before since one of the designers from that game was also involved with Duel Masters ... and since Bandai holds the license to most of the IPs they used ... well yeah it evolved to Digimon

    • @elijahdavila3684
      @elijahdavila3684 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Zanji1234 Tbh the only thing it really borrows from chrono clash is the memory gauge.

  • @redhood5264
    @redhood5264 Před 3 lety +146

    Been making a card game for a couple of months, and I didn't even realize that my game is a Duel Masters Clone... RIP

    • @paperpersona1243
      @paperpersona1243 Před 3 lety +64

      Hey man now that you know you can focus on what makes your game unique! That list of other card games shows that you can take a lot of inspiration from somewhere without being a clone! Good luck!

    • @Stinkoman87
      @Stinkoman87 Před 3 lety +18

      There are a lot of card game tropes. By knowing them, you can incorporate what you like best about all of your favorite games into yours, while adding in your own unique aspects.

    • @redhood5264
      @redhood5264 Před 3 lety +2

      @@paperpersona1243 Thanks for the inspiration

    • @redhood5264
      @redhood5264 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Stinkoman87 Yea so right now my biggest pulls are from Yugioh, Pokemon tcg, and apparently Duel Masters lol. It uses a evolution system like Pokemon, has the pacing of duel links Yugioh, and a shield system similar to Duel Masters.

    • @ghosty918
      @ghosty918 Před 3 lety +4

      @@redhood5264 That sounds pretty cool actually

  • @stef-hen
    @stef-hen Před 3 lety +319

    "Making games devolve into whoever can be solitare the best"
    Me who only plays yugioh: "...and I took that personally"

    • @goncaloferreira6429
      @goncaloferreira6429 Před 3 lety +6

      you need to get out more

    • @stef-hen
      @stef-hen Před 3 lety +28

      @@goncaloferreira6429 nah

    • @eririspencersawamura5291
      @eririspencersawamura5291 Před 3 lety +8

      VFD got banned
      But buster lock is back

    • @Topaztan
      @Topaztan Před 3 lety +14

      Synchro Solitaire has entered the chat.
      I also only play yu-gi-oh. It's complicated and expensive enough by itself lmao

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 Před 3 lety +1

      @@eririspencersawamura5291 Buster Lovk isn't back - Nobody uses it. The exabeetle buster lock is literal garbage

  • @depalapili-pala4859
    @depalapili-pala4859 Před 3 lety +95

    When I was younger I preferred duel masters over pokemon, digimon, magic, everything. Freaking loved that game and the cartoon was hilarious too

    • @andricaion9036
      @andricaion9036 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes, I still have a lot of cards, even that Magic is far superior than Duel masters, or even every other tcg game, I still love duel masters more than Magic.

    • @horusschnopp1882
      @horusschnopp1882 Před 2 lety +5

      Same, DM was the best. Even the GB game was incredible fun.

    • @vitadude5004
      @vitadude5004 Před 2 lety +5

      in my country DM is the reason yu gi oh didn't get the popularity..

    • @Koospa
      @Koospa Před rokem +3

      It's hilarious, I keep rewatching it to this day

  • @vincentmccue7481
    @vincentmccue7481 Před 3 lety +30

    There was a demo event at the Mall of America where people could sign up to teach the game when it first came out. Not only did my friends and I fall in love with the game, we all got paid in Darksteel boxes. 1.5 boxes per day for three days.
    It was glorious.

    • @retronymph
      @retronymph Před rokem +1

      How did you get paid 4 and a half boxes? Did they just give you 18 boosters?

    • @vincentmccue7481
      @vincentmccue7481 Před rokem +4

      @@retronymph Correct.

  • @GooTuM
    @GooTuM Před 3 lety +54

    As someone unfamiliar with Duel Masters, I thought this would be a video about how Duel Masters broke the new sin of "Too much errata text."

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ Před 3 lety +6

      It certainly is a sin (if the errata changes fundamentally how the card works) but does kinda require the game to have a long lifespan enough to get reprints of cards with an errata.
      Yugioh has a lot of erratas but most of them are for PSCT which makes the cards easier to understand. Nerfing cards as old as Imperial Order to as new as Firewall Dragon is more uncommon and often just kills a strong card's legacy.

    • @aurafox1
      @aurafox1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Zetact_ Never understood the concept of nerfing a card through an errata. Why ruin a powerful card that could otherwise potentially be made legal again one day? Would it really be that difficult to just print a retrain of the card instead?

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ Před 3 lety +5

      @@aurafox1 Pretty much just for nostalgia. I'm primarily familiar with Yugioh but a lot of the times the errata nerfs go to really iconic cards.
      In some instances they keep the general idea of the card the same but nerf it to prevent super easy FTKs/OTKs. Catapult Turtle being made OPT, Dark Strike Fighter being made HOPT, Exchange of the Spirit requiring both players GY to be 15 or more cards.
      In some cases the nerf is meant to keep the "intention" of the card intact but slightly alter it to make it less abusable. DMoC adding during the End Phase. Ring of Destruction making you take the burn damage first as well as the huge mechanical changes that prevent it from being essentially a free extra direct attack. Future Fusion being made into a more risky play instead of just a free dump from the deck. That kind of thing.
      In one instance (Crush Card Virus) I'm fairly certain they nerfed it solely because the printing of the Legendary Dragons cards made Doom Virus Dragon, which required Crush Card to be summoned (and has the old effect unchanged).
      Firewall Dragon is the most recent card to get an errata and it's actually a strange case because it was one of the big cards used to market Vrains which is probably the only reason it was even allowed that much. But also that pretty much everyone agrees that the original effect was so broken it's a miracle that it even got printed like that (I think some even believe that it was deliberately made so to push Link Summoning faster) and the new effect is pretty much what it SHOULD have had all along.
      There certainly are reasons why a designer might want to errata a card, but with the nature of card games it is silly that people would choose to slap the power of an existing card over the option that could result in selling more cards.

    • @aurafox1
      @aurafox1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Zetact_ I suppose it's kind of like nerfing a video game character with an update, but in a game that already has a system to ban cards and such and so many retrains already, I'm really not sure I see the value in changing what's been printed before other than for clarity or grammar.
      I could agree with the nostalgia aspect, but then you also have retrains of nostalgic cards like Blue-Eyes Alternative Dragon that get just as much, if not more, attention. I would think something like a nerfed retrain of DMoC or CD would get just as much attention.

    • @lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921
      @lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 Před 3 lety

      Duel masters really needs a remake /reboot here in the west so that all the people can enjoy the bliss of this beautiful card game alternative a breath of fresh air

  • @Annikai
    @Annikai Před 3 lety +92

    I was a kid who played a bunch of card games when Duel Masters came out in america and that dub was one of the main things that kept me from playing the game. While my friends and I all thought the show was funny, I personally assumed the game was joke. It didn't occur to me that it was a serious card game like the ones I was playing at the time.

    • @njrk97
      @njrk97 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah, for the longest time and when i was young i assumed Duel Masters was simply some other companies Parody series of Yugioh, what with the whole focus on the characters 'zany hair' and the episodes i had seen. I figured the Card game would have followed the same thing and been a fast and loose parody of Yugioh own card mechanics.

    • @Burger_pants
      @Burger_pants Před 3 lety +1

      @@njrk97 yup, I always thought "duel mas-err monsters" and the show, like bakugan is aimed at WAY too young of an audience to get any traction, yugioh and the pokemon games appealed to teens. When duel masters came out even my autistic ass thought it looked way too childish.

    • @duane_313
      @duane_313 Před 3 lety

      @@Burger_pants the pokemon TCG is the most laid friendly of them all

    • @christophercombs7561
      @christophercombs7561 Před 3 lety

      I was too old and had been playing magic for 4 years by that point it was a simple childlike game imo and the show was awful

    • @andricaion9036
      @andricaion9036 Před 3 lety +1

      I really thought the game was really really good

  • @YoCatboySlim
    @YoCatboySlim Před 3 lety +16

    I was a part of that mall tour. Someone reached out because I was an active member on an old Duel Masters forum and me and friend spend 2 days handing out flyers and teaching people to play. We got paid a box and a half of the 2nd set each lol. Good times!

    • @zerokura
      @zerokura Před 3 lety +1

      I still have my duel master halo card you use to show at tournament when you sign up for their news letter.

  • @TheGauntletDM
    @TheGauntletDM Před 3 lety +20

    This was a really good watch, well done! Duel Masters actually still has a small fanbase and YT network that exist outside of Japan. So from all of us, thank you for giving some spotlight to the game we all love so much with your excellent video!

    • @tonysharmagmail
      @tonysharmagmail Před 3 lety +3

      Where/how do you play? Do you use Duel master play's?

    • @TheGauntletDM
      @TheGauntletDM Před 3 lety +4

      @@tonysharmagmail DMP is currently only available in Japan. However there are apps (like QooApp) to help bypass region restrictions. There are a handful of guides online including one on our channel.

  • @nirast2561
    @nirast2561 Před 3 lety +83

    Kohdok: *talks about Duel Masters*
    Me: INJECT IT INTO MY VEINS!
    Edit: Uhm... They added A LOT of card types since the game left the US market.

    • @ShadowEclipex
      @ShadowEclipex Před 3 lety +3

      I heard that not long ago they added a broken Gacha system to the game.

    • @duelmastershideout278
      @duelmastershideout278 Před 3 lety +6

      @@ShadowEclipex They discontinued that mechanic last year

    • @bryanmerel
      @bryanmerel Před 3 lety +2

      Japanese Duel Masters threw all sense of game balance off the window, unfortunately.

    • @elijahdavila3684
      @elijahdavila3684 Před 3 lety +3

      @@bryanmerel Yeah I've heard that a lot of Japanese players got into Duel Masters Plays because it starts back when the game was more simple and less broken. Similar to why Duel Links got popular.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Před 3 lety +3

      @@elijahdavila3684 As someone who plays Duel Masters Play's quite regularly,
      I can say that the fact that they're still on a total of 8 card sets
      (The Japanese one got into the triple digits years ago)
      Is the biggest blessing a Duel Masters fan can have.
      Japan has some crazy cards,
      And a bunch of mechanics that I honestly don't want to deal with,
      But Duel Masters Play's allows people to play with updated versions of the first 8 sets,
      With 2 different metas.
      And very simple but satisfying animations.

  • @colinbrown7190
    @colinbrown7190 Před 3 lety +14

    As someone who grew up playing Yugioh, collecting Pokémon in the games, and enjoyed the art of mtg, when duel master came to my school I was all for it! And I actually learned how to play it with friends and their parents
    Even I cannot deny the shear force it brought to the us! The inspiration it might have caused in my favorite modern day games, vanguard, digimon, any many other games I don’t play.
    If I ever made my own card game I would want it to be something like duel masters.
    I hope that if some of my favorite childhood games came back, chaotic, duel masters, etc. I hope they come back with a very strong presence and don’t fall victim to how they flopped in the first place

    • @bryanmerel
      @bryanmerel Před 3 lety +3

      Up to these day, i still argue that Duel Masters has the best, most unique art design Theme, Concepts, and Eisthetics of all Card Games. The mythos of the Creature world is just Brilliant!

  • @JM-vl3cy
    @JM-vl3cy Před 3 lety +137

    "We have Sorcery Speed and Instant speed, and this brings a lot of complexity"
    Yu-gi-oh : *laughs in Spell Speed 4*

    • @oscarguzman3017
      @oscarguzman3017 Před 3 lety +5

      I dont play yugioh. Can i get some explanation? Is it like how there used to be interrupts in magic or split second perhaps? Quite curious.

    • @JM-vl3cy
      @JM-vl3cy Před 3 lety +35

      @@oscarguzman3017 basically each card type has a dedicated Spell Speed indicating its priority and what it can react to.
      You can only counter a card with a card that has at least the same Spell Speed or higher. "Spell Speed" is a general term for every card with an effect, not only spell cards (so traps and effect monsters also have a Spell Speed).
      -Spell Speed 1 are for most monster effects and most spell cards effects.
      -Spell Speed 2 are for most trap cards, "Quick Play"-type spell cards and monster effects that specifically indicate " Quick Effect"
      -Spell Speed 3 is mostly for "Counter"-type trap cards.
      -Spell Speed 4 doesn't officially exists, but it refers to cards that cannot be responded to (because the effect specifically says so, mostly). So while it's true that you cannot counter these with a Spell Speed 3 card (meaning it technically has priority over SS3), you cannot counter a Spell Speed 3 card with another card just because it cannot be negated either. So some player will rather call them Spell Speed 2.5. Spell Speed 4 is a very misleading term that many player still use.
      I hope this was understandable, YGO is a very complex game aha.

    • @oscarguzman3017
      @oscarguzman3017 Před 3 lety +7

      @@JM-vl3cy Wild. I agreed that magic was pretty complicated with instant speed and the stack but i guess yugioh is just cracked.

    • @JM-vl3cy
      @JM-vl3cy Před 3 lety +10

      @@oscarguzman3017 lol and that's just the tip of the iceberg, at least all the Spell Speed thing (aside of SS4 for obvious reasons) is in the rulebook.
      Cuz 80% of what you need in YGO is not in the rulebook. That's how absurdly specific the rulings get.
      It's by far the most complex and over the top TCG out there, but that's also one of the many things that make it unique.

    • @xSnarfsx
      @xSnarfsx Před 3 lety +7

      @@oscarguzman3017 It's not as crazy as it sounds, it's just different. When games are around for a long time, they get complicated. I would probably say that magic's basic rules can be more intuitive than yugioh's.

  • @EuroMIX2
    @EuroMIX2 Před 3 lety +29

    It''s interesting that we have an example of a gag dub benefiting a show with Ghost Stories, and one of it being to the detriment of the show, and its connected media, with Duel Masters.

    • @kaiser1963
      @kaiser1963 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah if the dub wasnt such a parody like the yugioh one (although it was really funny) it wouldve actually achieved some success in america Duel masters is the #1 card game in japan for a reason

    • @Colorado0091
      @Colorado0091 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kaiser1963 Wait, is it really #1??? I understood it is popular there, but #1 seems a little much :O .

    • @jedearltabora9550
      @jedearltabora9550 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Colorado0091 it was number one for a few years i think but i believe it no longer is.

    • @kaiser1963
      @kaiser1963 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Colorado0091 Both yu gi oh and duel masters constantly take the #1 #2 spot in Japan with 20 plus million cards sold every year Duel masters has always been a staple in Japan.

    • @Colorado0091
      @Colorado0091 Před 3 lety

      @@kaiser1963 Okay thank you for the info :)

  • @remyscreepycorner5135
    @remyscreepycorner5135 Před 3 lety +37

    I think this game’s biggest problem of the west was being dubbed “baby magic” which it kind of was. So it just didn’t get a foot hold with that crowd. Everyone else was still on yugioh and Pokémon, so it just died despite being an interesting game.

    • @duane_313
      @duane_313 Před 3 lety +12

      Maybe in cardshops it was seen as baby magic. But at my middle school in 2004, none of us yugioh/pokemon fans even talked about MTG, let alone played it. I'm so serious. We just thought Duel Masters was a yugioh parody based on how the anime was.

    • @remyscreepycorner5135
      @remyscreepycorner5135 Před 3 lety

      @@duane_313 that’s hilarious, yeah I’m speaking from a card shop perspective. But that’s super funny knowing that now.

    • @gh0rochi363
      @gh0rochi363 Před 2 lety +3

      The anime dub (which I thought was funny) the a lot of kids off.

    • @scourgemeltface
      @scourgemeltface Před 2 lety +2

      @@duane_313 exactly. The TV show killed this game before it had a chance for many people. I played it and enjoyed it. But after the first set I was done.

    • @fawfulmark2
      @fawfulmark2 Před rokem

      Unfortunately a trend that seems to still be pretty common in TCG circles, as seen by the YuGiOh players who throw similar labels on Rush Duels.

  • @aezogeus
    @aezogeus Před 3 lety +23

    Still play actively to this day, keeping up with the current releases.
    Hopefully this video sheds more light on the card game and draws more people in to try the Japanese version - they're doing some amazing stuff!

    • @shawnjavery
      @shawnjavery Před 3 lety +4

      Too bad there's no english sub for the anime.

    • @aezogeus
      @aezogeus Před 3 lety

      @@shawnjavery Yeah, I really wish there was - the episodes that come out on CZcams are all raw 😭

    • @silentkingsubject
      @silentkingsubject Před 3 lety +1

      eyyy i was about to send this video to you xD

    • @aezogeus
      @aezogeus Před 3 lety

      @@silentkingsubject Nice xD

    • @trickyplays240
      @trickyplays240 Před 5 měsíci

      How are you playing currently? I want to play again but with newer cards

  • @yamimichael297
    @yamimichael297 Před 3 lety +12

    So happy to have scanned and uploaded new images onto the wiki over the last month or so when I get to see them shine in videos like this.
    [...even though sadly the Bolshack was not, since I don't actually own it. lol]

  • @shamanx21
    @shamanx21 Před 3 lety +2

    I used to be a member of the Duel Masters Club where they sent you a welcome package with a member card, stickers, mini posters, etc.

  • @mosskull7162
    @mosskull7162 Před 3 lety +3

    I love how you throw ton of info and well thought insights without sound pedantic like many others. Excellent job, you definitely are making history in the TCG online content.

  • @seanmulligan9082
    @seanmulligan9082 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes man thanks I love this series! Keep up the good work, I can tell your very passionate about card-games and it's very endearing

  • @pseudorider050
    @pseudorider050 Před 3 lety +7

    I miss Duel Masters so much. Love that game

  • @TheFatestPat
    @TheFatestPat Před 3 lety +18

    The Duel Masters english dub is a nation treasure, and I will not have anyone saying otherwise.

  • @MrGrimlocksmash
    @MrGrimlocksmash Před 3 lety +39

    This game deserves a third reboot.

    • @teamcrypticcore1883
      @teamcrypticcore1883 Před 8 měsíci +3

      No, no more reboots. Just start printing current sets in English. We literally have another set dropping in December.

    • @Trim1013
      @Trim1013 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@teamcrypticcore1883I feel like that would be too much of a huge jump for the U.S. audience considering the game is nearly 20 years old. The modern sets are much more complex than even the last sets released in English. I think they should print cards from older sets so it’s not such a huge difference right from the get go, and it can eventually catch up.

  • @alexandersuciu9841
    @alexandersuciu9841 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video Kohdok 👍, I’m glad that Duel Masters is still being talked about to this day.

  • @Metal3Gamer
    @Metal3Gamer Před 3 lety +9

    A gem of a game. Here's to hoping they localize the Duel Masters Plays app at some point.

  • @WaveSineReverse
    @WaveSineReverse Před 3 lety +27

    It'd be interesting to get a detailed video on how Wizards of the Coast was involved with the Pokémon TCG in the earlier years of that game's localization outside Japan. How involved were they in some of the elements that parallel the mechanics in Magic?

    • @Burger_pants
      @Burger_pants Před 3 lety +4

      I saw a documentary about pokemon tcg ages ago and they talked to someone from WOTC who said they mostly just handled production, everything was already made in japan so WOTC was mostly handling what became the sanctioned tournaments and really pushed Nintendo and game freaks to embrace supporting sanctioned play in the west, the game may have never been more than a fad if WOTC didn't set the groundwork for competitive play which has kept the game alive.

    • @shamanx21
      @shamanx21 Před 3 lety +1

      Pktcgradio has a series of breakdowns of each set and how they affected the game and meta at the time

  • @paperpersona1243
    @paperpersona1243 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm just here to say I really enjoyed this video even though I've never touched Duel Masters or Kaijudo, the history was interesting and it was cool to see how influential the game was, I had no idea. Keep up the good work man, can't wait for the next one.

  • @australiaduelmasters
    @australiaduelmasters Před 3 lety +3

    I still love and play Duel Masters, it’s forever my favourite TCG!

  • @ktvx.94
    @ktvx.94 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, I didn't know anything about DM other than your comments on it in previous videos. It really set staples of TCGs

  • @mastermike890
    @mastermike890 Před 3 lety +11

    Just FYI for the explainer part, "Converted Mana Cost" has been recently replaced with "Mana Value" as the term representing a Magic Card's total cost

    • @Gevaudan1471
      @Gevaudan1471 Před 3 lety +2

      It'll always be CMC

    • @tonysmith9905
      @tonysmith9905 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Gevaudan1471 Mana Value is a lot less wordy, I'll gladly take the change.

  • @rebornreaper194
    @rebornreaper194 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, impressively intuitive explanations! 😄 Glad I stumbled on your channel today.

  • @duelmastersredux467
    @duelmastersredux467 Před 3 lety +1

    As a collective group that loves Duel Masters, this is a godsend. Thank you so much for this, Kohdok! -DM Redux Team

  • @krvys7226
    @krvys7226 Před 3 lety +42

    Not sure if this script was written pre-strixhaven command spoilers, or Kohdok just doesn't like the new term Mana Value.

    • @NurseGundam
      @NurseGundam Před 3 lety +2

      Huh, I didn't know that they changed that term. Good to know lol

    • @jevonp
      @jevonp Před 3 lety +10

      Lol fuck that it's cmc

    • @hobobeard
      @hobobeard Před 3 lety +6

      New terminology takes time to become ingrained. You’ll still here people say EDH from time to time and I will never cease calling them RUG and BUG no matter how insistent wotc are about their clans.🤷‍♂️

    • @elijahdavila3684
      @elijahdavila3684 Před 3 lety +4

      @@hobobeard A LOT of people still say EDH. I mean the main deckbuilding aid site for the format is called EDHrec. It's safe to say that you're correct and that term isn't going anywhere.

    • @goncaloferreira6429
      @goncaloferreira6429 Před 3 lety

      yep, Kohdok we need to know!!

  • @rushanthchandrakumar2284
    @rushanthchandrakumar2284 Před 3 lety +1

    You got no idea how long ive been waiting for this video.

  • @CBxDeathgrip
    @CBxDeathgrip Před 3 lety

    Loved the editing in this video. Great job!!!

  • @pumkinswift8263
    @pumkinswift8263 Před 3 lety +22

    One problem I have with things like prize cards, as more competitive player, is that it makes running one ofs perilous. This is particularly bad In pokemon, where you have limited space in your deck.

    • @philiphunt-bull5817
      @philiphunt-bull5817 Před 3 lety +7

      Well, its _always_ perilous to do that.

    • @MaddyBird666
      @MaddyBird666 Před 3 lety +2

      I don't really understand what you mean? Every card game has a limited amount of space for each type of card. Usually in pokemon, most decks usually only run 12-15 pokemon and 8-12 energy. The rest is supporters. Secondly, pokemon has so many search cards, draw cards, and discard interaction cards that one ofs are far less perilous than other card games.

    • @MaddyBird666
      @MaddyBird666 Před 3 lety +1

      For example, it doesn't matter if I only have one crobat v or one dedenne gx, because I usually run around 6-8 pokemon search cards and can get them whenever I want.

    • @Kohdok
      @Kohdok  Před 3 lety +15

      @@MaddyBird666 ...Unless it gets Prized. That's the point he's making.

    • @MaddyBird666
      @MaddyBird666 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Kohdok I can see how that can be a problem, but my one ofs in other card games also frequently get stuck at the bottom of my deck with no way for me to fetch it, or no real way to shuffle my deck, or even worse milled off the top.

  • @pabloc6762
    @pabloc6762 Před 3 lety +2

    great video! the new Digimon TCG reminds me a lot of Duel Masters mixed with pokemon! can't wait to try Duel Masters one day!

  • @MrMinisquale
    @MrMinisquale Před rokem +1

    Love to see Duel Masters get some deserved attention! I still have my cards from 2004, although I have never happened to find anyone to play with due to its total lack of success.

    • @supremacyecg6815
      @supremacyecg6815 Před rokem

      Maybe You could try my card game, it is inspired by duel masters ;)

  • @jdgx95
    @jdgx95 Před 3 lety +9

    Tbh I always liked duel masters cause it felt like playing MTG without playing MTG if that makes sense? Like the mechanics and all that were close to MTG but less overwhelming it found the perfect middle ground between the serious mtg art and the really anime looking art and the games could still get really involved tbh I think the game is perfect lol

  • @Fuzzlekinz
    @Fuzzlekinz Před 3 lety +1

    I've been learning how to play the Digimon Card Game recently and didn't know anything about Duel Masters before watching this, so I was so surprised at how many mechanics were lifted from this game!

  • @PuyochaGaming
    @PuyochaGaming Před 3 lety +2

    I have been waiting for this video for my whole life

  • @evilmidget
    @evilmidget Před 3 lety

    God the memories with this game. I'd implement the shield mechanic in my own TCG when I was in high school for the exact reasons you mentioned: easy to keep track of and can turn the tide of a game in an instant. This video has actually caused me to dust that old idea off and try at it again. I still have the two prototype decks I made as well as hundreds of card designs

  • @BanditGaming479
    @BanditGaming479 Před 3 lety +2

    Hell yeah this is exactly the video series we needed

  • @aaronr.265
    @aaronr.265 Před 3 lety +3

    I don’t even play card games anymore but these videos are so interesting

  • @Darkflo23
    @Darkflo23 Před 3 lety +2

    I never realized how the Elder Scrolls tcg game was so Duel Masters inspired, with the card that you draw when attacked and the trigger ability.

  • @danielbakergill
    @danielbakergill Před 3 lety

    Really impressed by this video. wrote an awesome script, and it is so well produced

  • @Njzeo
    @Njzeo Před 3 lety +4

    God I miss Duelmasters. While my friends were busy collecting Pokémon and yelling at each other over yugioh. Duel masters was a great alternative and it always caught my friends off guard. “Another card game? Do tell”

  • @95700272
    @95700272 Před 2 lety

    I love how you explain the game thru the lence og mtg. So much simpler to understand👍

  • @implozia1360
    @implozia1360 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you for talking about my nostalgia as a Romanian kid which watched other classmates get the cards for one leu a booster pack of 8? and immediatelly jumped in the bandwagon. (To put it lightly, rn a leu is 22 US pennies. Even one leu was decent for a kid with only that much so it was SUPER accesible).
    Later on I bought a buttload of the cards as a young adult and have a nice few hundred cards long after discontinuation.
    I wish I could make a cardgame like this myself.

  • @kitetenjogalladeknighttosh8863

    I will say this, thank you kohdok. After hearing Wixoss, Duel Masters, Magic from you, I've become a fan of all 3 of these series. I've watched both selector and lostage (haven't finished conflated yet.) Played duel masters play's, watched a little of the show. And, gotten myself some magic cards with one being a starter deck.

  •  Před 3 lety

    Superb series, i've a blast watching.

  • @TheJtyork420
    @TheJtyork420 Před 3 lety

    I'm so angry my youtube notifications didn't alert me this was out. This is one of my favorite series on CZcams the TCG analysis is so interesting and u just can't get anything like this anywhere else.

  • @thehoodedhero5452
    @thehoodedhero5452 Před 9 měsíci

    Never thought to look this up on YT and I didn't. Glad though, that your channel came up on my recommendations. This game was the only game, besides Yu Yu Hakusho, that I really felt I had a shot at winning local tournaments. So sad it didn't last. Darkness and Nature combo deck, ftw. Mill you then bring out the big beasts!

  • @gunjfur8633
    @gunjfur8633 Před 3 lety +2

    7:27 YES!
    When I was a kid it was so hard to chose which card to put in the mana zone and which to use later. It would have been so much simpler for me if DM had dedicated mana cards

    • @motxmod
      @motxmod Před 2 lety

      I usually went with the most expensive card early game.

    • @StigmaKRL
      @StigmaKRL Před rokem

      tbf there are effects that let you retrieve cards from mana

  • @AleksVin
    @AleksVin Před 3 lety

    Great video. Definitely my favorite game of all time

  • @shinraset
    @shinraset Před 3 lety

    Magic the gathering actually had designated blockers all the way back in the alpha set. Of course those creatures were walls and their exact wording was "this creature cannot attack" but they were designated blockers.
    Thank you for the incredible series and videos you make!

  • @abelalvarez6474
    @abelalvarez6474 Před 3 lety +4

    These type of videos are really great!!! I would like to see one for Kaijudo and The Naruto TCG

    • @Tundra0stalker
      @Tundra0stalker Před 3 lety +1

      Check out Kudou Kun ( czcams.com/users/KudouKun ) he's a small card game youtuber who does an entire series about the Naruto CCG with hour long episodes going through its history and meta, currently on set 6 as of around 5 months ago. Great for someone like me who never played it when it was still on going.

    • @CoreysCards
      @CoreysCards Před 3 lety

      The Naruto CCG is unironically my favorite card game ever. So unique, so much fun.

  • @Darkogazza
    @Darkogazza Před 3 lety

    I didn't sub while watching your seven deadly sins original run. Fantastic analysis of card games, and packaged in an entertaining and engaging way. I corrected my error and subbed :)

  • @PeanutButterSteve
    @PeanutButterSteve Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I absolutely love Duel Masters. I just got out my old cards since I started playing MetaZoo and am going to go through them. Such great memories. If they ported the Japanese sets to the US I would buy a box immediately haha.

  • @Artster900
    @Artster900 Před 3 lety +8

    "Only two types of cards: Creatures, and spells."
    Haha... About that...

  • @AnonPer
    @AnonPer Před 4 měsíci

    I remember the Duel Masters mall tour. I got a hat too small for my head. I got a signed card of a color I never use in my deck. I did not win a single match against anyone. But I still have fond memories of it, and I was sad we only got two booster sets before it stopped being sold in regular stores. I actually found my old yellow/green deck, which I never got to play after adding the "evolution" cards I got in that second set. I miss it, and I doubt I can even play it anymore, but I do love it.

  • @TravisPilgrim
    @TravisPilgrim Před 3 lety +1

    Duel Masters is one of the best TCGs ever. I will die on this hill. At the time I played Magic, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Hecatomb, and a bunch of other tcgs, but when I discovered Duel Masters I was simply in awe of its elegant design. Currently, I'm into magic again as well as Yu-Gi-Oh! duel links. Those games are great but they're not Duel Masters. If it ever releases in Europe again I'm going to spend what I can just to support it.

  • @solidcumbyhaha702
    @solidcumbyhaha702 Před 3 lety

    That was a great video about my favorite card game

  • @rizqihidayatullah6474
    @rizqihidayatullah6474 Před rokem +1

    14:03 nowadays there are currently several new types of cards (maybe not really new I guess, it's just lack of publication since the game is only growing in Japan. But they will expand the distribution to several countries in Asia I think, looking forward to this) that can be used in Duel Masters game, although it's not really general and usually needs certain cards to be used in the deck :
    - Cross Gears, just an Equip cards to your creatures and supports them, included into 40-cards Main Deck
    - Psychic creatures, a 2-4 sided card variant of creature cards that comes from Hyperspatial Zone (like Extra Deck although opponent can see it) that can "awakens" when certain conditions are met, "transformed" them into more powerful forms. They must be put into battle zone with certain cards (usually Hyperspatial spells) or effects
    - Draghearts, like Psychic creatures, a 2 or 3-sided cards from Hyperspatial Zone that starts as Dragheart Weapons (Equip cards like Cross Gears) or Dragheart Fortress (face-up cards that can gives some effects during game), and they can transform into others and finally become Dragheart creatures. Usually used with Draguner creatures that only them can "use" them or some cards
    - Gacharange creatures, just a unique creature cards that comes from Super Gacharange Zone (literally Extra Deck) and must be summoned from certain effects or cards
    - D2 Fields, like Dragheart Fortress or Field spell cards from Yu-Gi-Oh!
    - Orega Aura, basically an Equip cards for Gacharange creatures which can summons them and then equip themselves to it

    • @rizqihidayatullah6474
      @rizqihidayatullah6474 Před 11 měsíci

      13:32 and also this Erayo card is very similar to a Twinpact cards in Duel Masters, it's a 2 up-and-bottom card types in 1 card and can be used as either one (mostly combination of Creature and Spell), even some iconic cards like Bolshack Dragon has its own Twinpact version : Bolshack Dragon/Duelist Charger.
      That means you can summon or put (by an effect) that Bolshack Dragon card as a creature into battle zone, or cast that Duelist Charger as spell. It's also works when you used certain searching effect like creature or spell searching

  • @suprahb
    @suprahb Před 3 lety

    I loved DM so much as a kid and even now I got back into the game with some old cards I found.

  • @angelpulido9351
    @angelpulido9351 Před 3 lety

    Great video as always!

  • @joanne_ying79
    @joanne_ying79 Před 10 měsíci

    My local Anime Festival Asia (Singapore) and Singapore Comic Con has a section in their event hall where card gamers can sit down and play different card games. But usually a selected few card games are allowed/promoted. They brought back Duel Masters last year (advertising Duel Masters WIN as well) and was so fun busting out my old decks playing. Also seeing huge banners and wallpapers of Duel masters surrounding the card game section was amazing. I still rewatch the anime and follow it till now! Its a very nostalgic game for me as a kid till now.

  • @IamMullet
    @IamMullet Před 3 lety +3

    I miss Duel Masters so much, I still have all my cards including a Bolshock dragon in a card protector. the biggest drive that draws me towards wanting to learn Japanese is just to play this game again.

  • @TheDragonfriday
    @TheDragonfriday Před 3 lety +2

    Oh glad there's more, I thought the last one was last one.

  • @rafa57games
    @rafa57games Před rokem

    Finally a video that spellfire appears. Such a great game

  • @timmythetoothache
    @timmythetoothache Před 3 lety

    Love the editing!

  • @sardineBro
    @sardineBro Před 3 lety

    I had so many friends that played duel masters in middle school lol I had forgotten about it till I saw your video

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 Před 3 lety

    Duel Masters introduced me to Magic and I will forever hold a special place in my heart for that. If I had a genie lamp, the first thing I'd wish for is Duel Masters Play's to be localized. The second would probably be Battle Spirits.

  • @thomashare6733
    @thomashare6733 Před 3 lety +1

    It should be noted, DM has massively evolved since its younger years and is no longer magic lite, but staying true to its core.
    From adding 2 extra decks (one which was admittedly was a mistake), double-sided cards, triple-sided cards, and new colorless civs, or making creature spell hybrid cards(which came before Magic did it). DM is a masterpiece with its idea of innovation for new ideas, right now with its upcoming block is designed to celebrate its 20 years by having creatures get mashed up with each other creating really unique ideas.
    Really if you can, learn the OCG format and be in for a fun-paced game that is still ever-evolving.

  • @Stinkoman87
    @Stinkoman87 Před 3 lety +1

    My favorite implementation of 'any card as resource' is still Dragoborne. At the start of your turn, the top card of your deck goes in to your resource area upside down. You don't have to worry about deciding what card you want to give up, you don't need to shuffle a second deck, and you still take on additional risk the more colors you try to play in one deck.

    • @zerokura
      @zerokura Před 3 lety

      And than bushido killed it. I never had anyone to play with and bought the red and green starter deck plus a booster box of the i think last set that introduces the black cards. Do enjoy it but dont have friends to play with so they are just their.

    • @goncaloferreira6429
      @goncaloferreira6429 Před 3 lety

      that symplifies things even further and that is both good and bad. card games are about making choices and DM at least keeps that. But the system is not perfect. if you dont want resouce cards in our deck just do it like the modern digital games and give the player automatic mana-think LoR and heathstone.

  • @maxmercurythemm827
    @maxmercurythemm827 Před 3 měsíci

    I remember Duel Masters from so long ago, I think before I entered high school.
    I marked like crazy on the "every card is a resource" thing to the point that it's one of my favourite mechanics in a card game ever.
    The problem is, at that time, everybody thought it was really lame. The anime guys all were playing Yu-Gi-Oh!, and the nerds were playing MtG, and they didn't want to stray because teenagers don't make their own money and therefore can't afford to play 607 different card games at once.

  • @John_1-1_in_Japanese
    @John_1-1_in_Japanese Před 3 lety +1

    I haven't heard of this beauty since that PS2 game ages ago. Nice channel btw, I know literally nothing about TCGs, I just play Yu-Gi-Oh! branded Solitaire.

  • @LazurBeemz
    @LazurBeemz Před 3 lety

    Never played DM before but I'm getting into the Digimon TCG and you're literally describing everything I like about that game lol

  • @ArxGaming67
    @ArxGaming67 Před 3 lety +1

    I remember enjoying this game a lot on the Video Game on PS2 when I was a kid. This Game legit had a lot of good points to it.
    Happy to try Digimon with it's influences.

  • @Envy_May
    @Envy_May Před 3 lety

    *whoa wasnt expecting that trope talks citation*

  • @srntnjl523
    @srntnjl523 Před 3 lety

    Duel Masters the TCG was a big part of my childhood as much as the OG Yu-Gi-Oh and GX anime were, and was part of the reason why I was introduced to (and got into) MtG after DM effectively died out in my community

  • @cyberdragoon1432
    @cyberdragoon1432 Před 3 lety +10

    No joke this brings back some good memories. Now that you covered this, what are your thoughts on some of the gimmicks that we didn’t see here in the states?

  • @KGKSkull
    @KGKSkull Před rokem +1

    I just realized. The shield system is basically a person breaking something and the victim finds something from the busted object.

    • @Sanguivore
      @Sanguivore Před 3 měsíci +1

      That’s a very interesting perspective on it!

    • @KGKSkull
      @KGKSkull Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Sanguivore basically. A shield breaks, the person who ones the shield took a piece of metal, and now has a shank

  • @oshiokimun2647
    @oshiokimun2647 Před 3 lety +1

    Real talk tho, props to using the amazing 15th year crossover episodes in most of the footage of the anime

  • @MrWaves-oj9ge
    @MrWaves-oj9ge Před 2 lety

    I thought I was going to figure out how ppl keep track of errata test but this vid was still entertaining

  • @zerokura
    @zerokura Před 3 lety +4

    I still have my old card duel masters cards and I love the gameboy advance game. A game store had the kaijudo starters decks for sale so i bought all of them so i have two copys of every color lol

  • @ChaoticTeen16
    @ChaoticTeen16 Před 3 měsíci

    I used to play a Light Civ Deck in Duel Masters, with "Hanusa, Radiance Elemental" being my ace. It was so much fun.

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia Před 3 lety

    My favorite detail about Duel Masters is that it crossed over with MegaMan Battle Network for... some reason, leading to some of its cards being Giga Chips in Battle Network 5. Shobu also appeared in the Battle Network movie, with Lan and his friends also having a cameo in Duel Masters at one point.

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one Před 3 lety +7

    Errata
    Yu-Gi-Oh is making that word give me PTSD
    XD

  • @masterblasterT47
    @masterblasterT47 Před 3 lety

    I still remember how I got into Duel Masters. A gaming magazine used to buy semi regularly had a issue that came bundled with a Duel Masters two player starter set.
    I spent my whole allowance on multiple issues of that magazine.
    To be clear the magazine wasn't marked up because of the inclusion of the starter set so I basically got a severe discount compared to buying it in a toy or hobby store.

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl Před 3 lety

    LOVE THE NAME OF THE SHOW.... great video too

  • @TurtleMarcus
    @TurtleMarcus Před 3 lety

    I vividly remember in school that I beat one of the football kids in Duel Masters. He didn't like that, so he challenged me to a Duel after school, in his backyard. Rumour spread, and people came to watch. It was getting real. We dueled out an epic 3-out-of-5, and I won. I had earned his respect, and in the end, we shook hands. No longer foes, I gave him some deckbuilding tips. And I officially became the supreme judge on schoolyard Duel Masters rulings. We were all like 12 years old.
    Duel Masters was THE schoolyard TCG. I was a nerdy kid and played both Yugioh and Pokemon, but no one else bothered to learn it. Then came Duel Masters. It was simple enough that you could learn it during one recess, and start playing it in the next recess. Thematically it was a cool game, and both the nerdy kids, the football kids, the music kids - all could play and wanted to play. It was like that summer we all united in playing Pokemon Go.

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 Před 3 lety +1

    yoo i remember watching it on tv and liking the few plotpoints like evil kids listing every card mc has so mc changes the father's deck etc.

  • @PlasticSiding
    @PlasticSiding Před 3 lety +1

    Literally spending today working on my TCG, just what I needed for some good motivation! As always great script, I really enjoyed your use of graphics and visual explanations.

  • @banditkade
    @banditkade Před 3 lety +3

    There are times where he sounds so much like Arlo, I can't help but think he's the voice behind the puppet...

  • @TheSLATEcleaner
    @TheSLATEcleaner Před 3 lety +1

    I loved Duel Masters. I'm really happy to see Magic borrowing back from Duel Masters now with dual-faced modal cards with lands from Zendikar Rising [they play really well]. I'm holding out hope they print Corile into MtG - it's my favorite card ever printed in any TCG.

  • @TVSMC
    @TVSMC Před 3 lety

    I've been playing the Duel Masters OCG for the past couple of weeks and been having alot of fun with it.
    My anecdote is that my deck was severely underpowered compared to my opponent's and yet I won due to a shield trigger. It got me a creature on the field enough for me to attack for the win next turn. Was alot of fun. I highly recommend the game to anyone who wants to try it out.

  • @Klunkyman
    @Klunkyman Před 3 lety +2

    I bought the duel master game for PS2 a few years back for 50 cents. It was worth it as a study gaming basics.