Orange Pi Zero 2W - Is It Really That Good? You'll Be Surprised!

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    Here's the benchmark results (Geekbench 6) for this SBC: github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-re...
    The benchmarks actually show better results than an Arm Cortex-A55 in that list, but I am thinking that may be due to the heatsink? Else likely due to the LPDDR4 RAM.
    It really is a shame that there is no eMMC or NVMe on this. It might be available via a custom breakout for that 24-pin FPC, but I've not seen one yet! PoE on that expansion/breakout board would be excellent too!
    And as far as the size goes, I am basically arguing that;
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    00:05 Intro and Overview
    03:02 Looking at the Hardware
    05:32 Specs at a Glance
    06:02 Software Options
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    09:33 Note for Android Images
    09:59 Testing Overview
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    13:18 Micro Linux (pre-flashed to SPI)
    14:15 Boot to Debian on SD Card
    17:02 Trying out the UI - Chrome, CZcams
    19:28 Looking at the CLI and Software Specs
    20:47 Temperature Test with Thermal Imaging
    21:46 Second Boot - Much Faster!
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  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss Před 6 měsíci +6

    Gave you a thumbs up. Happy New Year.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks mate much appreciated and same to you!

  • @user-wm4oe4kk7t
    @user-wm4oe4kk7t Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thanks a lot for sharing!

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      Not a problem at all mate, thanks for the engagement!

  • @SpaceEnthusiastRich
    @SpaceEnthusiastRich Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thanks, great video!

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Před 6 měsíci +5

    Nice to see you back reviewing ARM SBCs and the OrangePi 2W as its an upgrade in performance than the RaspberryPi version and I see the H618 used in a few other boards from BananaPi with Sipeed just releasing one themselves. My 4gb has been in its box as was waiting on time to get it setup. Be sure to use cooling as Allwiner chips suck and this one will get hot... Great video!

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Hey I'm trying to stick to RISC-V, but waiting on RV 1.0, so going back to ARM since I've got still literal dozens to get through haha.
      Honestly, I cannot tell what the difference between the H616 and H618 is?
      Thanks for the comment/engagement and input! Cheers

    • @styauJ
      @styauJ Před 3 měsíci

      Hey bro😊 compatible gpicase?

  • @DanielRumbacher
    @DanielRumbacher Před 6 měsíci +12

    as a real australian i would have expected you to compare these tiny pocket socs to a huge australian deadly spider :)

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +5

      Hahah I could definitely do so, but honestly the two huntsmans that live in/around my workshop are approx 6 times the size of this SBC. The one I last saw inside was missing a leg from a fight with a bird, but its stance was about CD sized.

    • @vladsnape6408
      @vladsnape6408 Před měsícem

      @@PlatimaTinkers Huntsmans are not deadly, unless you are an insect. I presume @DanielRumbacher was referring to funnel-web spiders. I am not expecting you to include a live funnel-web next to any small SBCs in future videos, unless you really want to do so.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před měsícem

      @@vladsnape6408 Yeah got two huntsmans that live in my workshop, each missing a different leg from a bird fight hah. And they're not deadly, but it can make ya fairly ill! They don't usually bite at least.

  • @McGivrer
    @McGivrer Před 5 měsíci +4

    I am also impressed by this tiny SBC, (right now using it to browse and comment this video as an experiment) Ubuntu image is pretty good. Thanks for this shirt and good review. I'll try soon to run the retropie/recalbox on it, very curious to see results ;)

  • @ronalerquinigoagurto555
    @ronalerquinigoagurto555 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good review maaate

  • @semaph0re
    @semaph0re Před 6 měsíci +12

    GPU works on the 2W, just make sure to enable GPU in the orange-pi config utility, as it is disabled by default on this device. The GPU is Mali-G31, so it uses Panfrost, I have been able to render 3D scenes with shaders and stuff just fine.

    • @semaph0re
      @semaph0re Před 6 měsíci +2

      also re-do your CZcams test after enabling the GPU.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +7

      Oh you legend - I did not consider checking the config tool, I was going to modify the DTB by hand haha.
      Yeah I'm planning a "Part 2" covering a bit more, and was going to work out how to resolve the GPU issues along with testing 4K there. No idea why it's off by default!
      Much appreciated.

    • @semaph0re
      @semaph0re Před 6 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers yeah, it took me a long time to figure out that the GPU was disabled by default, maybe it depends on the image that is used, at least on my image it was disabled (Orangepizero2w_1.0.0_ubuntu_jammy_server_linux6.1.31).

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      @@semaph0re Yeah quite possibly. Even the official docs still say it's not supported though =/ Odd. Ah well, wonderful find!

    • @salvadorGC338
      @salvadorGC338 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkers For some reason it is off by default on their os lately, the same happens on the Orange Pi 3B por example

  • @madr3563
    @madr3563 Před 3 měsíci +2

    the GPU is disabled in default config. Try to enable it. idk why they turn off the GPU as default settings. Maybe to reduce the power consumption. But if user need to enable it for further project, OFC we can.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah someone told me that just after I uploaded. Really bad design decision - alters reviews and benchmarks 😑

    • @jdchmiel
      @jdchmiel Před 2 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers you really do need a part 2 with GPU AND with a decent SD card! I think my boots are under 10 seconds from a sandisk

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 2 měsíci

      @@jdchmiel Yeah it's in the pipe, just got about 4 months worth of other content lined up first.

  • @zk_6312
    @zk_6312 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Looks good. This is what the raspberry pi zero 2w should be. I was quite disappointed with it only having 512mb ram. This board is excellent though except for the initial bootup time. I think this would work great with klipper.
    Well, I finally bought a 2gb one. At first I thought none of the images were working as I kept getting an error mounting the sd card. I was using Win32 Disk Imager. I switched to using Balen Etcher and was able to get the images to work. So far, it is okay, but I have done anything with it other than test the images.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yeah seconded hey, and DDR2 even more so!
      Definitely good for Klipper, but that first boot time does make sense to me 1) had to expand partition etc, 2) slow SD card!

  • @youtubeviewer7077
    @youtubeviewer7077 Před 6 měsíci +1

    hot exposure

  • @menukaramanayake6786
    @menukaramanayake6786 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hoping to buy one, could you do a video where you install other OSs ? Like Fedora OS (I heard that it can be installed to Rsp Pi not sure tho)

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's unfortunately not easy - the OS needs to be ported to the hardware (DTB), and an image created for the SD card. Your best bet would likely be sticking to the releases, unless you know exactly what you're doing!

  • @Iskelderon
    @Iskelderon Před 13 dny

    Thanks for the review!
    This would be great for an upcoming project, especially because there's offers for 30 euros that include the expansion board too. Probably because the successor is now their main focus.
    I'm preparing for a project that just needs to animate some images, display short sequences and play background sounds, right in the wheelhouse of the two-board combo with a screen.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 13 dny +1

      Very welcome! They're an awesome little unit, but I am actually using the the Radxa Zero 3W and the Luckfox Pico range more these days. Ref: shop.plati.ma/collections/all?filter.p.vendor=Luckfox

    • @Iskelderon
      @Iskelderon Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@PlatimaTinkers Thanks, I'l have to check that out. Would be even more interesting if I could integrate simple 3D, taking the 3D compass values from an accelerometer and rotating a compass sphere accordingly. That's something only the second generation of Pi Zeros and its competitors have the power to do.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 12 dny

      @@Iskelderon I'd honestly not considered ever doing something like that, but that would be pretty awesome to see. I think you could probably offload a lot of the compute though; either use DMA, or a dedicated IC for it. DFRobot have some great kit for that sort of stuff!

    • @Iskelderon
      @Iskelderon Před 12 dny

      @@PlatimaTinkers Glad I could inspire you. Think of an amateur movie prop akin of a Ghostbusters cartoon PKE Meter or Aliens motion tracker.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 11 dny +1

      @@Iskelderon Haha god damn that's pretty specific 😂

  • @reixko5192
    @reixko5192 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Could you please confirm if both USBs have both data and power capabilities ? bcs according to their website, both should be able to carry data too 😊

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yep you can, but USB0 (near 24-pin connector) is set to 'Device Mode' by default as that's usually the power supply, and USB1 is in 'Host Mode'. This is page 125 of the manual, and you can change USB0 config using `orangepi-config` if need be as it steps you through there!

  • @unknownsauce3768
    @unknownsauce3768 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Whats software support like? Will anything rin natively or is ot only Oranges own images??

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Pretty damn good to be honest. Orange Pi are an Armbian Platinum Sponsor, so most models get fully endorsed Armbian releases, but they also put out ~8 images for each board themselves, eg Arch, Android, Ubuntu and Debian, with CLI and GUI versions where relevant, and sometimes with 5.10 and 6.1 kernels too! Plus extensive doco, eg the PDF for this board was 319 pages!

  • @oda0111
    @oda0111 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Does it work with all the OSs the regular Zero 2 can? I need one for a Tilt hydrometer setup (Tilt makes their own OS off of Raspberry Pi OS for this purpose that is Pi 2,3, 3+, 4 and Zero compatible according to their documentation) and wouldn't mind having the extra hp this comes with.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Both processors are Cortex-A53, so the software should work perfectly, but the device tree might be slightly different. I expect it as close as possible, so the images _might_ Just Work™ but I'd use the official Orange Pi image, then just copy your software across... unless you've got a custom build of course! Else maybe just jamming the OPi DTB into the RPi image might work!

    • @oda0111
      @oda0111 Před 5 měsíci

      Second attempt at posting a reply, for whatever reason the first one didn't stick.
      The custom image Tilt made for the Zeros, 2, 3, 3+ and 4 did not work. I kept getting and mpt4 mount error. Funnily enough I get the same error when I try to boot with no SD card installed.
      The only thing that worked was the Orange PiOS (Arch) image. Tried installing a regular Pi OS Lite, Pi OS in both 32 and 64 bit with no success.
      I like the idea of a cheap and powerful Zero 2w but the support is not nearly close to what it needs to be. @@PlatimaTinkers

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@oda0111yeah CZcams is good at eating comments sometimes. So annoying.
      That's really interesting and good to know. I'd expect that is going to be something to do with the device tree (DTB). If you can get the Tilt image, and use the DTB from the official image, that might work.
      The other option is that you might be able to modify the u-boot or related boot options, as it might be looking for a specific block device or connection to boot from, which is different on this.

  • @Alex-em9ij
    @Alex-em9ij Před 6 měsíci +3

    What heatsink you used for cpu?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      I just grabbed a small spare one I had in a box. I've ordered some for stock, so keep an eye on shop.plati.ma! Cheers

  • @zeendaniels5809
    @zeendaniels5809 Před 4 měsíci

    Install Armbian and run Klipper for your 3D printer... That's where this little guy really shines (along with its bigger sister, the Orange Pi Zero 3).

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      Super curious, why does everyone use Klipper? What's it do that's so great?
      I've only got SLA printers, so guessing it's an FDM thing? 😂

    • @zeendaniels5809
      @zeendaniels5809 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkers Certainly, FDM and mostly custom machines. It allows a lot of flexibility: Custom commands, real pressure advance, total control over acceleration... And it can run on a potato (on the machine side). The best thing is that any change you make is applied on the fly, no need to recompile the firmware on the machine.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      @@zeendaniels5809 ooh okay that's awesome, thanks for sharing!

  • @Sysshad
    @Sysshad Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for review. Have you found out why your rpi zero dies? Is it 2w?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks mate much appreciated. And nope, no idea. Yeah 2W's. On Reddit people said they had similar problems. Basically it's running fine for a few months in a little enclosure, then one day it just stops responding. Stick debug headers on it, and it turns out nobody's home. Only SBC I've ever had that's died - and I've got a Banana Pi M1 from 9 years ago that's been running Docker 24x7 nonstop and works fine still!

    • @Sysshad
      @Sysshad Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkers interesting, thanks for info. Maybe it runs to hot, even when on stock settings. Shall see how my build turns out. Going to be a handheld build I'm working on. Very eager to test rpi zero 2w or even bananas or radxas variants.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Sysshad yeah it could be, but you'd expect it to rate limit itself, or turn off. Hitting 40-50C shouldn't cook it. I could try a basic oven reflow to see if it comes good, had not though of that.
      Yep just had the Raxda Zero 3W just turn up yesterday, cannot wait to try it. Very happy with both them and Orange Pi!

  • @registromalplena2514
    @registromalplena2514 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm wondering why your raspberry pies keep dying, is it because of a lot of read rights to the storage or overheating or something else? I am very interested.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I've got no idea, but over the last 2-3 years I've gone through a half-dozen Pi Zero's. It's only those that die, I've never had another SBC/eSBC fail, and they're in a really good enclosure, indoor, running off well-regulated power. Having spoken to others on Reddit, apparently it's actually fairly common.

  • @cjlowe1650
    @cjlowe1650 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Luv you're vids. Have 4 Opi zero 2w. 2-1g , 2-4g. And expansion boards for all 4. Need to know diff with loading the os's. Also had issues with loading Rpio ontop of opi zero os. Diddntt work. Can you go over difference between the 2 w and also the Rpi 0 2w? Also best plce to load os and where to mount os between the 2 and issues where the antenna are best placed. Plus had issues with loading Rpios vs Orgpios,? Also is the a true Dietpi Oxpi vs diet pi over iox. Also any ideas of how to load dietpi orgli os for RTSP CAMERAS STREAMING? THANKS.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hey thanks for the comment and support!
      I've not tried Orange Pi OS, as I'm not a fan of Arch. The Orange Pi Zero 2W wipes the floor with the Raspb Pi Zero 2W in my opinion; 4K HDMI output, USB-C, heaps more RAM, faster RAM, Wireless-AC and BT5, SPI flash, etc. Probably cheaper too!
      Antenna is a hard one; depends on your case or layout. But most of the time it can go pretty much anywhere, just vertical.
      RTSP camera streaming would be best done with ffmpeg / V4L2. You'd need to learn a bit about it, as it can be slightly complex, but there are some pre-made packages out there that you might find in the apt repositories. Eg github.com/mpromonet/v4l2rtspserver which is super common and easy to use.
      To load the OS just use Balena Etcher or similar on to the SD card. You can program the embedded SPI Flash but it is only 16MB so barely fits much. Maybe RT-Thread haha

    • @cjlowe1650
      @cjlowe1650 Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for the reply. I've used RTSP on pi zero w and zerow2 for a few years with no issues. And capture the feed on a Pi4 8gb of 4 streams in Shinobi. I had an issue when first setting up Debian os from Orange pi site when first came out. Ill try it again.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      @@cjlowe1650 Oooh how does Shinobi go on a Pi4? I've got it running on a little x86 NUC but it struggles.
      Yeah the current image seems to work well!

    • @cjlowe1650
      @cjlowe1650 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkers i have it in an Argone one case with thee SSD bottom using a 2tb ssd. Capturing 4 zero w2 RTSP cameras streams it run great. When I ran it on the SD card it was awful. So the SSD really makes a big difference. Thinking of upgrading to the Pi 5, 4gb or 8gb. Just to see if it can add up to 8 cameras using pi zero2w RTSP.. have pi5 4gb now , waiting for 8gb setup just shipped Friday from Vilros. May try 8 cams on current pi4 8gb setup since I want to really use pi5 for more power options. Also got SSD bottom hat from pimoroni for the pi5's. Will try 2tb and 4tb when I get the time.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      @@cjlowe1650 Ooh yeah I have a few SBC cases from Argon and I quite like them!
      Yep SSD would make a huge difference. I'd not go the Pi 5 though; Orange Pi 5B or Raxda Rock 5A absolutely rinse it as far as performance goes from what I've seen! I've got an OPi 5 here if you want me to check anything, but I think I've only got a Raxda Rock 4SE - still better than Raspberry Pi 5 I think though hah. The 4 SE also supports NVMe onboard I think, not E-keyed for wifi like most!
      Might have to move my current setup. I've also got a 3 TOPS USB accelerator I need to try, but I'm considering Frigate too... tough call!

  • @yorks_atheist3069
    @yorks_atheist3069 Před 6 měsíci +1

    toyed with getting these for Home Assistant voice satellites but drivers for respeaker hat only for raspberry pi version

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      Hrmmm, shouldn't be too hard just to compile for most boards? github.com/respeaker/seeed-voicecard looks like it'd support most common ARM boards.

  • @darknetworld
    @darknetworld Před 6 měsíci +2

    Each board has it pro and cons. Without raspberry release their board and idea from them. It would be other long time for people really open hardware develop board.

  • @filthyfrankblack4067
    @filthyfrankblack4067 Před 6 měsíci +7

    The OPi zero w2 is superior to the RPi zero at this point in time for all the reason you metioned and I can't wait for the kali linux OS to drop for this. Imagine a KALI LINUX DONGLE using the RPi zero usb otg extention for the 4 pins on the bottom using the ethernet over otg to ssh into the OPi zero. It would be plug and play kali linux with plenty of ram and 5g wifi for aircrack. Not tomention this will run edge A.I. programs like openCV way faster. It's funny that banana pi copied this with a 2gb model and then charged more. Not to say this board has everything. it is missing emmc which radxa got right. I see great future for this board though. it will cover the hole left by the RPi /mangopi, /banana/LubanCat/ Radxa/ Zynqberry, zeros have left open and elevate the entire market.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah ALMOST in my opinion; it does cost a little more, and it is lacking MIPI CSI, but ho-hum
      You're right that it would make a great pentesting unit given it has dual band Wifi! A TPU and fixing the GPU drivers would not go astray. Do you think they'd do a Kali release for this? I expect you could grab any Cortex-A53 Kali build and just drop in the device tree.

    • @savekillqqpsounds8473
      @savekillqqpsounds8473 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@PlatimaTinkers cost a little much? That orange pi zero 2w costs like 45 euros for the 4gb version

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      @@savekillqqpsounds8473 Wasn't bad - I think $50 AUD inc shipping for both the module and addon, so 30 EUR. Seems the pricing is much the same as they control supply quite tightly!

    • @wimvander1427
      @wimvander1427 Před 2 měsíci

      Would be great to run kali Linux on the OP zero 2w

    • @filthyfrankblack4067
      @filthyfrankblack4067 Před 2 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers Well there is kali for the orange pi zero3 so it could be the case of a drop into the device tree. A video from david bombal released on odysee about bluetooth hacking I want to try. So i have an excuse to do it.

  • @codewithsehran
    @codewithsehran Před 5 měsíci

    Which is better orange pi zero 2w or orange pi zero lts

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 5 měsíci

      Both are very good, depends on what you want to use it for!

  • @anasouardini
    @anasouardini Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'll be so cool if you'd build a small Linux phone using that 💘

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Make it happen man! I'm building a small Linux fox trap haha

  • @lostinwriting
    @lostinwriting Před 6 měsíci

    Doesn't the Zero 2W come with Ethernet connector?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      Nah but you can get the addon board that has it. Eg @3:10 if you'd watched it :P

  • @peejae082004
    @peejae082004 Před 6 měsíci

    Does the Android TV build have hardware acceleration?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yep it says it does - page 285 of the docs (Android 12, Linux 5.4 kernel)

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 Před 6 měsíci +4

    4:12 Only 512 gig? That'll do for me! ;-)

    • @pete3897
      @pete3897 Před 6 měsíci

      PS, that was only a cheeky dig! Like saying "There's no H in aych mate" lol ;-) Love your content!

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      HAH good catch! Added an edit, cheers

  • @rubiskelter
    @rubiskelter Před 6 měsíci +2

    What do you recommend for cooling this particular board? Thanks!

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      Hey any heatsink and fan would probably do, eg shop.plati.ma/products/raxda-heatsink-fan-combo-2513-25x25x13mm-suits-rock-5a-and-similar can probably cover CPU and RAM, however, the RAM doesn't get that hot from memory. The board has no fan pins though, so I'd recommend connecting either to the 5V pin to have it running full time, or you can probably connect it to a PWM pin, set that pin as the fan similar to on ameridroid.com/blogs/ameriblogs/setting-pwm-on-armbian-for-fan-control-a-step-by-step-guide

  • @jimlynch9390
    @jimlynch9390 Před 6 měsíci

    Amazon reports: Currently unavailable.
    We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.
    For: Orange Pi Zero 2W 2GB with Expansion Board Allwinner H618 LPDDR4 Quad Core CPU 64 Bit Single Board Computer, 1.5GHz Frequency WiFi 5.0 Bluetooth 5.0 onboard Antenna Support 4K Display (Zero 2W 2G+EB)

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      God damn what a pain. Links updated with new listings that are in stock. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @r0galik
    @r0galik Před 4 měsíci

    You can easily enable the GPU using orangepi-config...

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah found that out waaaay later haha. Cheers though!

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope Před 3 měsíci

    How does this compare to the orange pi zero 3? Does that have the same soc?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci +1

      It's a really really confusing topic.
      The Zero 3 is an upgrade over the Zero 2, HOWEVER, the Zero 2W is essentially the same as the Zero 3.
      The Zero 2W has more headers and expansion, but the 3 has ethernet.
      I guess they are wifi vs ethernet models, but Radxa made it a little easier by just releasing a 2W and a 2E 😅

    • @Autotrope
      @Autotrope Před 3 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers thanks so I guess that means the zero 2w plus the expansion board is a superset of the zero 3

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci

      @@Autotrope Yeah kind of! Zero 3 just has ethernet instead. Odd marketing haha

  • @DevXcode_P
    @DevXcode_P Před 3 měsíci +1

    У меня лишь один вопрос, может ли orange pi zero 2w запускать систему с юсб флешки? Если да то я готов купить её прямо сейчас 😂

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah, technically it would be able to. You MIGHT just have to modify U-boot to enable USB - I don't recall if it is enabled by default. (Google Translate: Да, технически это возможно. Вам МОЖЕТ просто потребоваться изменить U-boot, чтобы включить USB - я не помню, включен ли он по умолчанию.)

    • @DevXcode_P
      @DevXcode_P Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkers Wow thanks for feedback! And thanks for the translated text)) This moment with the flash drive was very interesting, since this information was nowhere to be found and I would like to ask the real owner of the board) again thanks!❤️

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci

      @@DevXcode_P Hah, welcome! Problem with USB drives though; slow. This only has USB 2.0 (although Type-C ports), so 480Mbps max. That is still 60MB/s, but good SD cards can do 90MB/s up to 300MB/s or so 🐇
      This page should help you, as I think most uboot defaults to SPI -> eMMC -> SD -> Fail. linux-sunxi.org/FEL/USBBoot

    • @DevXcode_P
      @DevXcode_P Před 3 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers I hadn't thought about that... usb 2.0 is a big problem. Then only sd cards. Okay, thanks for everything, I will think about the purchase!

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DevXcode_P Any time :)

  • @geelee1977
    @geelee1977 Před 4 měsíci

    Is this possible to overclock, and if so, how?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah it's always possible, not always recommended haha.
      In this case, I would say not to. 1) It is not the sort of thing to be used in any application where overclocking may be beneficial. A full Orange Pi 5B maybe, but not something like this. 2) You'd need to add custom cooling, which would probably be about the same cost as buying a second one or bigger model to get more compute power.
      HOWEVER. If you want to, A) Slap on some thermal compound, a heat sink, and a fan (shop.plati.ma/products/fan-and-heatsink-with-adhesive-for-sbcs) B) If using Armbian, use armbian-config to tweak frequency and voltage settings, else C) Decompile and modify the device tree (github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner/sun50i-h618-orangepi-zero2w.dts) to use different dvfs or frequency settings.

  • @user-vx9ch6rs1w
    @user-vx9ch6rs1w Před 6 měsíci +1

    does it has openwrt support?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Kiiiiind of. OpenWRT runs fine on Cortex-A53 cores (downloads.openwrt.org/releases/23.05.2/targets/sunxi/cortexa53/) but there are no builds for that specific board or processor. It does look like some others are working on it though, eg github.com/iuncuim/openwrt/tree/master-opizero3

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns Před měsícem

    Do we have graphics drivers yet?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před měsícem

      Yeah mate, either enable it in config, or install custom image with Panfrost :)

  • @petrklic7064
    @petrklic7064 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Does this support HEVC h.264 / h.265 ?

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hey, just an FYI that HEVC is H.265. AVC is H.264. Just random names for random numbers :P
      But it depends on what functionality you are after. It has a H616/618 processor - datasheet at linux-sunxi.org/images/b/b9/H616_Datasheet_V1.0_cleaned.pdf - and you can see it has H.264 and H.265 hardware video decoding, along with H.264 hardware video encoding.
      I hope that helps!

    • @petrklic7064
      @petrklic7064 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@PlatimaTinkersThaks.
      But i haven't found it in official specifications of O-Pi 2W. And that is strange.
      For example newest RPi does NOT have hardware acceleration of H.264.
      I know that those SoCs are powerful enough to software decoding H.264.
      But what is important for me is ENERGY CONSUMPTION. And for this is better hardware acceleration.
      I am going to build device with battery, and there is consumption very important.
      I am still not sure which SBC is best for this.
      Low consumption in IDLE and in STANDBY mode is key !
      Unfortunately most of these SBCs are significantly worse in this, compared to embeded SBCs in smartphones and tablets :-(

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      @@petrklic7064 yeah I think the doco is a bit aged, as it also says there is no hardware acceleration for the GPU, but there is these days - you just enable the drivers in `orangepi-config`. So I'd say it was the same marketing material / documentation from launch, but it's evolved since then.
      Is there a way you know of to easily test if it's doing hardware decode/encode? I'm not hugely familiar with that 2D side; testing the 3D acceleration in the GPU is easy enough for me hah.

    • @petrklic7064
      @petrklic7064 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@PlatimaTinkersEasy test ? Start decoding 4K 60p video and measuring energy consumption (if it will run).
      ps: it is sad, but i can not find any reliable newer youtube video like "make your own tablet from SBC and 7inch LCD".
      It looks like people are not even trying to make their own Linux/AOSP tablet.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci

      @@petrklic7064 Oh okay good to know!
      Re the tablet, funny you say that as I currently have a 7" touchscreen sitting on my desk here that I'm playing with: shop.plati.ma/products/luckfox-7inch-hd-capacitive-touch-screen-lcd-1024-600-resolution-hdmi-ips-multi-point-touch
      Pretty damn good so far, besides literal sharp edges haha.

  • @lorddeus369
    @lorddeus369 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bro your internet ain't avg 1080p is almost two decades old :P

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hahah nah I am halfway through moving my AP but right now it's sitting on a metal shelf that just cripples the throughput - need to put the new mount up!

  • @JonitoFischer
    @JonitoFischer Před 4 měsíci

    Lack of support for GPU drivers are a constant with chinese SBCs, you have a 4k HDMI output that's unusable from Linux. That's why people keep buying raspberry pies.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hey yeah but it turns out it works fine - just has to be enabled from the config app as it's not enabled by default! Probably for power/benchmark results.
      When I do a Part 2 video I'll include that info!

  • @1nikhil11
    @1nikhil11 Před měsícem

    sd cards get fried from high read write speed.. how lol

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před měsícem

      Not sure where you got that from, but not what I said at all mate

  • @firepower9966
    @firepower9966 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sipeed Longan Pi3H is a Raspberry Pi Zero-sized board with full-sized Ethernet, USB, and HDMI ports and 2GB/4GB and optional eMMC 32Gb

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      OH that is super interesting looking. Also H618! Modular design too. Thanks for the info!

  • @firepower9966
    @firepower9966 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I have some of these in my Aliexpress cart , I like how they have many Ram options from 1GB to 4GB, thinking of using a 1GB for klipper and 4GB for running on 4K TV to get rid of youtube adds and run more apps than what LG webos has.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Hah yeah I'd say 4GB for video is the way to go. And there are instructions here for GPU support it turns out: www.reddit.com/r/OrangePI/comments/17qisxw/orange_pi_zero_2w_gpu_3d_accelerationgpu/
      Not sure of the Klipper requirements sorry!

    • @Razor_Burn
      @Razor_Burn Před 6 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers thanks for the link as I have a reason to use mine knowing GPU works 👍

    • @firepower9966
      @firepower9966 Před 6 měsíci

      @@PlatimaTinkers Sipeed Longan Pi3H is a Raspberry Pi Zero-sized board with full-sized Ethernet, USB, and HDMI ports and 2GB/4GB and optional eMMC 32Gb, think i use this as full size port will connect to TV easier and 4G with 32GB eMMC seems like better value and specs, Still use Orange Pi zero 1GB for Klipper (Klipper runs on original RPi Zero with 512kB but better on RPi Zero 2 so orange Pi Zero 2 1GB easily meets spec)

    • @WillThat
      @WillThat Před 6 měsíci

      If you're in the US, I use a few Onn 4K Google TV boxes from Walmart and put SmartTube and Stremio on them. It's fantastic.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci

      @@Razor_Burnno worries at all, I'm hanging to re-test it now when I make it back to the workshop!

  • @firepower9966
    @firepower9966 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Can you do a video comparing EMMC and microSDcard storage and boot pro and cons etc.

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah mate for sure, and good idea. Just not with this, as no eMMC :P

  • @bimbo-yw6ny
    @bimbo-yw6ny Před měsícem +1

    too many ads impossible to follow

    • @PlatimaTinkers
      @PlatimaTinkers  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah the YT ads are a huge pain in the ass. Install uBlock Origin - helps me heaps.