CANON C200 | DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKING GEAR
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- In this video I go over what is in my gear bag for the first day of shooting a 6 month docu-series. All the gear is listed below!
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Canon C200: amzn.to/2RmH14r
Atomos Ninja V: amzn.to/2UCjgXM
SmallRig c200 Monitor Mount: amzn.to/3dSRUEr
SmallRig Ninja V Cage: amzn.to/2X6mMM2
SmallRig Nato to 15mm: amzn.to/2V0pX59
SmallRig 2" Nato Rail: amzn.to/2UBBPvq
Wooden Camera Top Plate: amzn.to/2xMQkmV
AUDIO
Sennheiser AVX Lav: amzn.to/2R8HB5o
Rycote Undercovers: amzn.to/2xHyz8I
Tascam DR10L: amzn.to/3bSiP1D
Senal MDR1000 Headphones: amzn.to/2UYeMde
LENSES
Canon 24-105 F/4 IS II: amzn.to/347KLvO
Sigma 18-35 1.8: amzn.to/2JBNWlG
Canon 85 1.4 IS: amzn.to/2xOYSd1
Canon BPA60 Battery: amzn.to/2URL3m8
Atomos NPF Batteries: amzn.to/2yuI2Re
Pelican Card Case: amzn.to/39CYfAA
Sandisk CFast Cards: amzn.to/39GKp02
Aputure ALH198c Light: amzn.to/3dPvDrg
Manfrotto Pro Light Cinematic Expand Bag: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
As always spot on video bro. I always enjoy your video full of info and very detailed.
This video going into my Favs. for future reference so much great info.
Robert Dettling awesome thanks so much Robert!
Thanks for this Video ! Really informative !
definitely subscribed, i love that you covered everything. keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! Really appreciate you checking out the videos and subscribing!
Really helpful video! Thanks
Thanks Fraser! Appreciate you checking the video out
Awesome set up griffin! keep the content coming.
Thanks so much Jose! Will do
Love that setup! Extra monitor helps so much focusing with the 85mm
Great work camera operating Dave! Love the shots you got.
been following for awhile, thank you for this man! I've been on the fence about the c200 and I like it more and more each time I see it.
Thanks a lot Luke! Hit me up if you ever have any questions, happy to help
@@GriffinConway Hey Griffin! Love your videos, I am also on the fence with the c200. I like it a lot but is it still relevant in 2020? Would a Komodo or just investing in an fx9 be a better option? Thanks!
Another great vid!
Thanks a lot Micah!
Enjoyed it ... very illuminating
Great! Glad you enjoyed it
I’m about to pull a trigger on C200, and I find this video to be exactly what I need. I don’t fancy building up a rig, and therefore I think your setup is just a sweet spot there.
Thanks. Very helpful video.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video bro!!
Thank you for checking it out Kleber!
Really enjoying these videos, Griffin! Keep em comin!
Thanks a lot! I appreciate you checking the video out
@@GriffinConway Any issues running that atomos v upside down?
pilotfield not at all, they have an image flip option available. This allows me to run the hdmi input on the ninja on the same side as the hdmi output on the camera
Awesome video! You got some great gear!
I also have a great fiancé ❤️
Great setup, man!
Thanks a lot Tyler, I appreciate you checking out the video.
Really good video, no messing around. We run a C200 but it's always nice to get someone else's perspective on gear. Like what you said about keeping the weight and simplicity down on the kit, thanks for making the video.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, and just leaving this for YT algo, hope this show up in others feed.
I appreciate that, thank you 🙌
6:40 --> I never seem to learn this :) Great Video!!!
really nice video!
Thanks a lot Sebastian!
Hey Griffin another great video! Keep doing like this and I'm positive you'll grow fast! Proud to subscribed!
Thanks so much Alessandro! I really appreciate the kind words.
Griffin Conway I know because I’ m starting to a CZcams channel but in Italian! Take care!
Alessandro Petracci that’s awesome! Good luck with your channel!
Clean and nice
Thank you!
@@GriffinConway you describe it like a documentary
Good distinction between what should be manageable for a single shooter. Ruling out gimbals and drones for a single shooter sounds good to me (for most shoots). To be sufficiently present and get the moments you need in doc work, requires a maximum of two lenses. Unfortunately if you need to get a sit down interview on the day you’ll need more gear (reflector/diffusion at least, 1-3 lights potentially and stands). My conclusion is that it’s a team sport, and a team of two with shared responsibilities works well!
Great video man! I have a very similar setup! Actually working on a wedding C200 rig video lol
Awesome! Stoked to see it Tyler! Always love watching your content bro
Nice video! Came from the C200 Facebook group :)
Waves Motion awesome! Love that group. I appreciate you checking out the video.
100% wholesome. Would love to see the full setup rig with the light attachment on top. Really nice.
Thank you!
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Hey Griffin, checking out some of your original content from 2020. It's helping me ALOT. I'm still torn between C200 and C70. Of course, the C70 is newer, but... your video here is compelling.
Hey Ron! I need to get some fresh content up for ya this week 😂 but glad you liked this video! The c200 is still a really great camera, and we use several of them in the production I run, but for most of our run n gun stuff we prefer the c70 because of the slightly better image quality and easier files to work with in post. Thanks as always for watching!
I’m debating between the C70 and C200 now.
Griffin, this video is absolutely epic. I'm looking at getting a C200 and your tips on the Pro Mist filters, and shooting onto the Ninja V and sometimes editing the 2k footage for quick turnarounds, are going to be life changing for me! Thanks a million! Subbed and liked!
Quick question - what log do you like to shoot on? I've read that Clog 2 is the best, that Clog 3 is in between, and Clog (original) is the easiest to grade. Thanks in advance for your time! Keep up the epic work!
Raw is always in clog2.
Use clog2 or 3 for for 8 bit 4k. Usually use clog2. Unless pairing with an EOSR then would use clog.
Great vid, thanks for all the detail and breakdown of each choice of why you did and didn't choose certain bits of gear! Do you like a kit.co page with all your kit broken down? Thanks!
Thanks for checking the video out! I’ll get my kit page updated in the next week or two. I haven’t updated it in probably 2 years haha. Any particular kits you would be interested other than my doc kit?
Terrific overview! Lots of helpful setup info. What brand and size bag are you using to store the seinnheiser wireless mic system? Thx!
What video Tripp’s head do you run when on sticks?
Great series of videos btw thanks
I have 2 tripods...my bigger one is the sachtler flowtech legs with a sachtler ace xl head. My smaller / cheaper one is the manfrotto 502ah. And thank you for the kind words!
very interesting especially for those who own one :) I mean c200
Great info! Thanks for showing your setup. Do you use the Ninja V as a recorder at all to get 10bit 1080 or are you only using it as a monitor?
That’s a great setup. When I used to shoot weddings I would shoot in 10 bit 1080 and like the quality. Not to mention, the pro res files from the ninja edit so easily even on a basic computer.
So there's a 3.5 output jack to monitor audio directly from the camera?
Wow so no LED lights (aside from the small battery operated one) and light stands? And also do you shoot RAW?
swaaaaag, question brotha. how do you attch that Atomo cage to C200 top hand hold
Hey, Griffin, nice stuff! So, you record 4k RAW on CFast and 2k 10bit ProRes on Atomos Ninja V? Can you record 10bit 50fps 2k on Ninja V? How many minutes will take 512gb 2k 10bit ProRes and how many time does it take you to transcode RAW footage to 4k 10bit from your CFast card? Also, how many minutes lasts that battery on Ninja V?
Love the configuration, keep up the great work! Happy New Year from Belgrade!
Great video! How’s the autofocus work with the 18-35mm?
Thank you Carlos! It works great. It is a little bit noisy if you are using an on camera microphone but it definitely gets the job done
Love your setup! You mentioned you record on CFast and then export as ProRes...do you color grade the raw file first before export? I’m not recording Raw at the moment as it’s not necessary for my current productions but eventually I’ll move into the raw recording. Thanks and great video!
Island Image & Motion CNMI I just export them as 4K pro res 422 files in clog 2 (which is what it defaults to when using media encoder). Then I just color grade the clog 2 files in premiere. I don’t find they grade much different then the actual raw files, unless you are pulling down exposure by 2 or 3 stops. As long as you exposed within 1-2 stops of proper exposure you should be good without the actual raw file.
Griffin Conway Awesome...thank you for the advice! Cheers 👍🏾
Island Image & Motion CNMI my pleasure! Thanks for checking the video out
I like how you just casually speak about your client as if it’s some local person, then it turns out to be Mike f*****g Rashid lol. Huge fan of Mike! Also, just found your channel the other day and I’m loving what I’ve seen thus far, keep up the good work!
Edit: Also, how do you like using the Rode NTG 3 on your C200? I’ve been think about doing it but wasn’t sure if the microphone was too long or if there are any other general issues.
Mike is an awesome guy for sure! Thanks for checking out the video. I really like the ntg3. We have 2 of them and they live on the c200’s most of the time but we also use them on a boom for interview setups. That’s the exact mic I use for my talking head stuff in my office you see in these CZcams videos. Regarding the size, that’s sort of the trade off for great quality. I would recommend it for sure.
Wondering if including a DC power cable would be good for the operator. Have you guys tried that?
memostothefuture if we were planning on doing a longer interview setup then I would probably send one, but with the two bp-a60 batteries it can run for 8 hours and we were only scheduled to be shooting for about 6 hours so I figured we would be ok without one.
Can anyone answer how the extended nd (8/10stops) looks? Is it useful or is there bad colour shift etc. Thoughts.
It’s one of the main reasons I would choose this camera over the c100mii
Hey Griff, in your opinion, if the BMPCC4K had internal ND's, would that be a lower budget game changer?
The BMPCC’s already are game changers even without them. Definitely the most bang-for-your-buck cameras out there. Now if they had internal ND’s I’m pretty sure I would already own one lol
Nice video! But...are you just carrying that camera or are you using a shoulder mount? EasyRig?
Just carrying it 💪😄
epic video, thanks Griffin! I am considering buying into a C200 setup and all the videos you've put out have helped me get a much better idea of what i'm getting into. I come from shooting exclusively RED and have never played with the Canon cinema series, aside DSLR. when you transcode the cinema raw light files after a full day of shooting, on average, how long would you say that takes? also, I see a lot of concerns about shooting just to one CFast card, have you ever actually lost footage on a corrupt card? on RED it's the same thing for me - 1 media source - I've only had one instance where the card corrupted (luckily it was recoverable, too).
nick korompilas what’s up Nick! Thanks for the kind words. Transcoding speed depends on your computer but on a typical day I might use two 512gb cfast cards and plug them in to my MacBook Pro (8 core, 32gb ram) and use media encoder to transcode them overnight. Usually by morning they are all done. The one and only issue I have ever had with a cfast card was with a file from my last video! Lol (the c200 vs 1dx iii video). One of the files wouldn’t import and I’m sure I could have used a recovery software to get it because it still played back in camera, but I decided to just use the 1080p proxy and upscale it. That’s a good backup plan. And if you want something higher quality, you can do what I do and use a ninja v recorder and record a 2k 10 bit 422 file as a backup. I’ve shot red as well and I think you will love the canon cinema line if your work requires run n gun or doc style shooting. Hit me up if you have any more questions! Thanks bro!
@@GriffinConway thanks man! absolutely. the knowledge you're sharing is invaluable! good to know about those transcode speeds - that's exactly what I was looking for. I like the ninja v setup, too. are you previewing in C-Log 3 on the Ninja 5? is it just a learning curve to monitor the log and know what you'll get in post? and really nice compact setup you did with the dual monitors off the handle, I might do one just like it
That’s awesome! Happy to help share what I have learned with the camera. You can load luts in to the ninja v for previewing if you want. The way I actually do it usually is send a rec 709 signal to the ninja and use that footage for CZcams bts examples and as a last resort if I ever had a card failure. I realize I am sacrificing about a stop of dynamic range by doing it this way but it works for me and my workflow. It also speeds things up if I want to pull some of that footage for example footage so I don’t have to grade it in post.
Hey Griffin, great gear and video! Thanks for it. How do you connect the Atomos? Via HDMI? And do you record on it or is it just for preview reasons?
Matthias Schömer hi Matthias, thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I go hdmi out of the c200 in to the ninja v. I usually record on it but only use it so I have a 2k 10 bit 422 backup in case something goes wrong on the cfast media. Also if I have anything that is quick turnaround it is easy to just grab the pro res files off of the ninja and edit those.
Griffin Conway hi griffin, ok I understand. So it is possible to record max 2k 10bit 422 with hdmi, right? This seems to be a good option for fast projects...
You can also record 8 bit 4K 422 but I prefer the 2k 10 bit because the colors are a little better
Is there a button to like this video twice?
Hi, Don’t you have echo/latency issues with the sennheiser avx and your shotgun mic on the camera ? Haven’t tried this configuration yet but 19ms latency sounds a lot.
Hi Hadrien. Yes latency is definitely one downside to the AVX kit. When I am in the edit, usually I select either the shotgun mic -or- the lav mic, and mute the other channel. If I need to to use both for some reason, I will bump the avx track about 2 frames forward in premiere and it fixes the issue
Griffin, what's the lens filters you mentioned? I can't quite catch it. Thanks
Tiffen black pro mist filters 1/8th and 1/4.
Just about to pull the pin and buy a C-200b I have a ninja v do I really need the stock monitor what are the pros and cons thanks Griffin
I would say you should be fine with the ninja v. The biggest downside with no stock monitor is you lose out on the touch to focus option that makes applying the focus box much easier
Nice run through of your gear. I'd like to get a backpack that fits my c200 rigged like that instead of breaking down into a peli every time.
TORCHY that’s a good call! It really helps especially for run n gun work
@@GriffinConway any specific reason you went for the Wooden Camera top plate rather than the small rig? Reliability?
TORCHY there is a part that attaches to the front of the plate that can connect the stock c200 monitor, and then I use the c200 handle to hold my ninja v setup, and it was the only one that met those needs. If I could go back and do it again I would 100% go for a bright tangerine c200/c500 Mark ii top plate. It allows the camera to slide forward/backward to better counterbalance with heavy lenses and can also work on the c500 ii when I upgrade to that camera.
I have an Atomos Shinobi I was hoping to use simultaneously with the C200 monitor, but I was doing some reading that this is not possible to do both? Are you only able to achieve this duo monitoring with the Ninja then? If so, do I have to be recording or can I just use it as a monitor? Thanks!
WhiteBox FX you can use the shinobi exactly like I use the ninja v here in this video. I actually use that same monitor sometimes because it is lighter and he better battery life than the ninja.
What mic shock mount is that??? Nice and compact!
It’s actually the stock canon c200 shotgun mic mount 👍
Enjoyed your video, nice one! Can throw a couple of questions.
Any idea what the XLR recording max times are? Do you use cameras Mic in 3.5mm for anything? ie its 4 channel audio/scratch audio? Your record Cfast. Do you not record to Ninja v ? Raw and Cfast worry me about storage and computer processing. Do you prefer Raw to Prores from Ninja V? The C200 is everything I want except don't fancy using Raw but want better than mpeg4. C300mk2 would sort but pricey. Shame C200 can't export 10bit to Ninja V. Do you think there is a C200MK2 on its way?????
Laurence Grant hey Laurence thanks for the questions. I don’t think they will make a c200 Mark ii for at least another 1.5 or 2 years. They are pretty slow to refresh their cinema line. The c200 can output 2k 10 bit 422 to the ninja while simultaneously recording 4K raw to the cfast. That is usually my go-to setup. I usually transcode the raw to 4K 10 bit 422 pro res after recording and it is easy to edit. For audio I record shotgun mic to channel 1 with a backup 12db lower on channel 3. I also record the lav on channel 2 with a backup on channel 4 12db lower. I don’t use the 3.5mm in for anything usually.
@@GriffinConway Yes, very slooooow. to up grade products. 2k to `ninja sounds a good compromise. So you actually use the Raw lite or only 'in case' and stay with the Ninja 10bit. I can't see me using the Raw especially the price of cards and the small recordings times. I'm thinking Weddings, were I need recording time but not 4K, then short commercial/ interviews where I might like to shoot in 4k and then down scale. I am getting so confused as I currently shoot Fuji/h265/Ninja pro res.
On the audio. Totally agree with your idea. So each XLR has another channel to use as a safely track? Plus ? a mic 3.5 input. But you never use. Would that be used if say you where not using chan 3 and 4 I wonder. Now if C200 had 4K 10 bit to SD cards that would be great.
Good video, thanks! Why do you use the 1/4 pro-mist on the 85mm instead of 1/8 like the other two zooms?
I use the heavier diffusion on the 85 because it’s the tight lens and shows more of people skin imperfections, so the heavier diffusion helps the lens be a little more forgiving
@@GriffinConway That makes a lot of sense...didn't think of that :-)
How much a complete kit like this may costs? I'm thinking of upgrading my gear.
Most of the links with pricing are listed below now the description 👍
Griffin you mentioned you use a small, SmallRig Rail and a 2" Nato Rail, but there is another thing you point to at around 2:45 of the video. What is the second thing you mention that connects the Ninja 5 to the Handrail? You say "I got a part from SmallRig right here" right before you point to the Nato. What is that? I didn't see clearly see or hear what the set up there was? I also didn't see it in the Amazon links. Thank you in advance.
Here it is.
2 of these kits: www.smallrig.com/smallrig-evf-support-for-c200-monitor-2075.html
One of these:
www.smallrig.com/smallrig-swat-nato-rail-with-15mm-rod-clamp-parallel-1254.html
One of these:
www.smallrig.com/smallrig-15mm-rods-2-5-inch-2-pcs-1590.html
Plus the wooden camera top plate.
@@GriffinConway Thanks for the clarification, I didn't realize you needed to purchase two of the EVF supports. Out of curiosity, do you find it is that much better to get that EVF support as opposed to just sticking with what Canon comes with? Thanks again.
For me it made sense. A big pet peeve of mine is un-level horizons on my monitor. The small rig setup solves this issue, so I did find it was worth it.
Hey Griffin, I think I have the same question as Arnold. I ordered the Smallrig parts you mentioned, and I have the EVF Support for the C200 moniotor (Smallrig #2075) mounted on my camera similar to yours, and I have the Smallrig NATO Lock Clamp (Smallrig #1254) for the Ninja V, but there seems to be no way to attach the NATO clamp to the camera. The clamp that attaches the EVF support is what it looks like you are using to make this attachment--is there a way to order just the clamp separately? Is that how you made it work? Sorry to bother you--I think this is a really slick setup, but I'm a bit stuck. Thanks!
I can't tell for sure, but it looks like this SmallRig rod clamp goes into the Canon top handle.
www.amazon.ca/SmallRig-Single-Camera-Support-Microphone/dp/B0747P6YJ2/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=EVF+Support+for+the+C200+monitor&qid=1594258768&sr=8-15
Then a 2-inch rod goes into the 15mm rod goes into the rod clamp. And then right next to the rod clamp it you put the Nato clamp onto the exposed part of the two-inch Rod, and then clamp the Ninja to the Nato part of the Nato clamp. This is a guess but I went through the SmallRig pieces and that is what it looks like, but I could be wrong.
I actually ordered a second c200 monitor kit from small rig just for that one part and just kept all the other parts as spares for extra rigging bits and pieces
Griffin and Arnold: thanks for your help on this. Sorry for the delayed response, but I had ordered the Smallrig clamp #1995 that Arnold mentioned, and didn't receive it till recently. And...it doesn't really work. Sigh. The screws included with the clamp protrude so far that I wonder what Smallrig was thinking here. Anyway, I was able to kluge a solution by hitting the hardware store and getting some socket-top threaded screws (which don't have heads to protrude) and attaching the clamp to the handle that way. Not great, as the clamp can't be locked down into the correct horizontal position---it tends to loosen up over time. Oh well. I do see the advantage to buying a second EVF kit and using that clamp, but here I am being penny-wise...I've got a note into Smallrig to see if they might sell that part separately, and, who knows, maybe they will (not likely, though....) Anyway, enough time here in the weeds of clamp technology. It's still a great camera and setup, and I'm looking forward to getting some real shooting in. Thanks again, guys!
Could you move the table and the lamp behind you one meter to the left? Please.
Wait is that Mike Rashid?
Haha yep
Not sure how shooting documentary with primes is hard? Just buy a TriLens holder and you can change your lenses in 3 seconds. I shoot everything with primes (and C200), and 90% of the time it's run'n'gun documentary stuff..
Hey Vladimir, thanks for the comment. I don’t necessarily think shooting documentaries with prime lenses is “hard”, but as I said it presents certain limitations. When you are filming a fight for example, even as little as 3 seconds for a lens change could be enough to make you miss a key shot like an unexpected knockout punch. In my experience, I have found most people that shoot fast paced run-n-gun documentaries to use zoom lenses, but that’s not to say prime lenses can’t be used. That’s why I sent the 85mm 1.4 🙌
@@GriffinConway Of course, if that match lasts for couple of minutes and there is no do over, but those are very rare occasions with documentary filming, there is almost always enough time to use primes for b-roll, and the results are night and day. It's like shooting a wedding with 24-70 vs 5-6 primes. As I said, try the TriLens, it completely changed the way I work.
Thank you for great video. It’s really helpful! I have one question. Is there any reason to use 1/4 black pro mist filter at 85mm?(instead of 1/8) Is it because its prime and f1.4? or Is it because main purpose of 85mm is B-roll? or any other reason?
WRKKR the main reason is that is a very sharp lens and I find adding the 1/4 knocks the sharpness down to my liking and adds in some character. The other 2 lenses look better with a 1/8 for most projects. Although, sometimes I will switch it up depending on how much of a “vintage” or stylized look I want it to have
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