Ukraine is ‘defending all of us’ from Putin - Timothy Snyder Interview
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- With the war in Ukraine nearly four weeks old, is the West any closer to putting its finger on what Russia wants or how to negotiate with Vladimir Putin?
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Last week saw the Russian leader stage a pro-war rally in Moscow, as he continued to preach his take on Russian and Ukrainian history.
But if the Kremlin misread Ukraine, the West has also failed to understand what Putin was up to.
That's part of the argument of the historian Timothy Snyder, who specialises in eastern European and Russian history.
Krish spoke to him and began by asking him what we all should have known about Ukraine that we didn't.
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This guy needs to be up on the media bit more 🙏🇺🇦
A LOT more!
Agreed - but I think people still don’t get him. It’s like when people were trying to warn the world about hitler.
@@josiechaney9010 you’re defo jewish
Slava cocaine 🇺🇦
His problem is that he is too intelligent and knowledgeable; people does not follow his logic and deductions, and he does not think he has to explain it, for what seems simple to him, is complex to most people.
When does this man sleep?! I am so grateful for his brilliant and insightful analysis on the war. Also for Black Earth, The Road to Unfreedom, On Tyranny, and his masterpiece, Bloodlands.
Ukraine must win this war or else the maintenance of the gobal order of sovereign nations with the right of self-determination will crumble and our world will return to the law of the jungle.
Truly. I am also very grateful for him. His books are incredible and I’ve learned so much from him.
He's now asleep , not making sense at all
Volodymyr Zelenksy has freed from prison fascist militants convicted of some of the most heinous crimes
According to a July 11 report in Ukrainian media, Ruslan Onishenko, commander of the now-disbanded Tornado Battalion, was freed as part of President Zelensky’s scheme to release prisoners with combat experience. Along with an unwavering commitment to fascism, Onishenko is known as a psychopathic sadist who was involved in sexually assaulting children, brutally torturing prisoners, and murder.
Onishenko’s release follows a February 27 order by Zelensky to free other convicted former Tornado members like Danil “Mujahed” Lyashuk, a fanatic from Belarus who has openly emulated ISIS and boasted of torturing captives for sheer enjoyment. According to Zelensky‘s decree, prisoners with combat experience would be allowed to “compensate for their guilt” by fighting in the “hottest spots.”
Back in 2015, when the Ukrainian state provided official support to his Tornado Battalion, Onishenko texted two fellow “patriots,” Voldomor and Svetlana Savichuk, propositioning Svetlana Savichuk to “suck my c### in front of the [toddler] children.” . He also asked Savichuk to perform lewd acts on her children for his viewing pleasure. Despite the magnitude of his crimes, which included torture, murder, rape - including that of children - kidnapping, amputation, and more, Onishenko was sentenced to a mere 11 years in prison on April 11, 2017.,the uk,us,eu are now arming these animals
I learned so much from this interview.
Thanks very much 👍🏻
you just got some more american propaganda , by a sieve
@@jjtighe8628 no one knows the full truth.
@@jjtighe8628 - How do you know its American progranda?
@@chrismckellar9350 Don't feed the trolls. There are too many of them with time to waste, but why ware your own?
@@jjtighe8628 Sorry , but you are wrong. I am a theologian who devoted much study into Russian Orthodoxy (Русская Православная Церковь) What Snyder says, is absolutely right. The russian orthodox church is basically leading a crusade against the idea of human rights and democracy They hate the idea of individual freedom and want to restore the tzarist imperial tradition. Remember: These people are are close politcal allies to Putin. Believe it or not, but this is not about Nato.
it's absolutely essential to read T. Snyder's established analyses of the history of the oppression & domination of Ukraine by fascist empires going back 50 to 150 years
Better watch oliver stone's documentaries about ukraine
@@arjanmuyen3684 what are they?
Is that where they learned how to do it themselves? 🤣
You can watch his Yale course Timothy Snyder : The Making of Modern Ukraine , its very insightful .
@@arjanmuyen3684 You mean Oliver Stone who's well-known propagandist and personal friend to many dictators, including Putin? Oh sure, what a great source of information you have 🤡
Brilliant interview. Wonderful historian answering intelligent questions from a superb interviewer. Spot on.
Wonderful, especially the part where he states that the west is realising that "not everyone is trying to be like us". That's some deep unheard-of insight, like you said, wonderful!
My question though is, what was the cost that other peoples had (still have?) to pay so the 'civilised west' realise that?
BAAAAAA! 🤣🤣🤣
@@abumotorola9614 if you're gonna speak, speak your mind. You are pro-Russian just state it.
@@monkaeyes3417 That's one very stupid assumption. A wrong one of course.
Having such narrow perspective has always been my fear of being absorbed by petty propaganda.
Putin is a butcher, long before he started bombing white folks. Go on wikipedia, and look for Aleppo and Grozny.
@@user-sm4fp2jo1o what a clever 'name' you have!
I don't think I've heard a better description of the issues we are facing and what we have to do.
Wonderful. And thank you to Channel Four for interviewing him.
Listen to his Yale Courses on Ukraine.
@@p.h.3987 I am listening to them. Fantastic that Yale has made them publicly available :)
I’d also recommend the CZcams channels of Vlad Vexler. He is a political and moral philosopher with deep insights into Russia. Snyder’s analysis here reminds me very much of Vlad’s.
look up his interview with Sam Harris as well, top-notch analysis of the situation
Unfortunately the Western Alliance is not listening.
Don’t call him Mr, he is below the low. A criminal, a dictator.
So what do we call George W Bush, Tony Blair and co?
They’ve commit more horrendous crimes than Putin. Or is your killing fields and carpet bombings more humane?
The children of Palestine, Fellujah and Kandahar want to know what to call you criminals?
He showed the truth and hypocrisy of the West Country
Million time the same thing that happened in ukraine happen elsewhere and every mouth was shut
Why? Too bad that they don't have blue eyes and blonde hair!!!
I prefer to have dictator than "democratic" puppet president like Zelensky. They are brainwashing people with words like freedom, democracy, human rights...
@@ilovemikasa2018 Freedom democracy and human rights are exactly what Russians don't have. You are more than welcome to it go ahead enjoy your dictatorship. Meanwhile Russia have to get the F@@@@ out of Ukraine hands of Ukraine and any other Country. PUTIN TROLL
Well he ain't Generalissimo Putin.
It’s not about alliances anymore. It’s about doing what’s right in the name of humanity. We should all help 💙💛
Your 100% right, and that's why we need to do right for all places in the name of humanity like Palestine, Yemen etc
But those who want to can't 😓
No Ukraine caused this n needs to fix it
@@joprocter4573 Explain how Ukraine caused this ?
@@ianmarshall9144 research their ethnic cleansing for 8 yrs despite calls to stop by Russia.
Historian Timothy Snyder seems to understand deeply Putin's mind and how the Russian Invasion means to Putin. Thank you for your clear explanation.
@Right Hand that is absolutely B/S!! The very fact that you can make such a statement demonstrates that Western democracy is alive and healthy. There are no U.S, NATO war crimes. I'm so sick and tired of listening to dictatorial apologists. You can have your say and give your opinion, but do some research before just spewing the half truths and disinformation fermented by the likes of putin himself.
@Right Hand find a job, get a girlfriend.
@Right Hand 🤦 ... quoting milosevic on morals, democracy and the notion of truth Is narcissism par exellence. Any quotes by stalin or hitler on the importance of pluralism? 😆
@Right Hand also: free willy while you are at it 🤣
@Right Hand free Assange? not a good time to support a Russian spy 😄
Tim Snyder is my favourite historian. He is even on point with Putin!
I found his books brought coherence to all I thought I knew from reading Ferguson et al.
@@0532phillipjoy don"t read that
Are you some kind of idiot
That was a great interview of Timothy Snyder. This guy makes a lot of sense and wish he was directing policy for NATO/EU.
I agree he is not flitting about being emotional or looking to say things for effect
David Snyder.
This idiot would start ww3.
This guy is an American Empire shill. I'm sorry, but a country is not a sovereign democracy if its entire existence hinges on IMF loans and other free things from the USA. That's called a vassal state.
People who think like Timothy Snyder are the ones who make policy for NATO and the European Union.
Mr. Snyder is always a source for well thought out understanding of politics and history, especially when it comes to everything eastern Europe.
Yes, especially if you have a nose for Neo-con CIA inspired anti-Russian, anti-China, anti-Iran propaganda. Good to see you have confirmed your status as a sheep.
I'm about 30 pages from finishing Timothy Snyder's "Road to Unfreedom", which was written 4 years ago. He was so prescient. Snyder is a great meld of historian, linguist, and philosopher. I plan on reading more of his books.
Just finished the book today. It was fantastic.
Finished "On Tyranny". "Road to Unfreedom" is next. So glad to see that others are also realising what a great resource Snyder is.
You may also want to check out his course, "The Making of Modern Ukraine", offered at Yale and posted on CZcams, the first lecture is: czcams.com/video/bJczLlwp-d8/video.html
ABSOLUTELY 👍
I’m from the US but need to give a S/O to British news stations… they have done a much better job covering the war and all the experts they bring on are so much better than CNN, Fox, CNBC, etc.
I agree. We get reality without internal politics!
If you want to get a grasp of what's going on check out WION mate. BBC, SKY and ALL UK MSM are biased asf. No 🧢
Our news is purely news.
It’s not “entertainment”.
you still have videos on Putinism by PBS, Julia Ioffe etc.
UK stations are biased and show only what works best for them.
We need to help Ukraine as much as possible!!
Not with my money, have you taken in any refugees?
Then make your way to Ukraine as quickly as possible and fight the futile battle
Tim Snyder's ability to get into the head of the adversary and appreciate it from that point of view, is key to understanding the conflict in Ukraine. Brilliant man.
how can you be so blind, like really!
@@markmomoko1600 How can you be so arrogant? Like really! Open your mind!
@@StephiSensei26 this guy has been completely wrong every step of the way since this war has started and even before that. I'm SHOCKED that anyone can actually believe the vomit that comes out of his mouth, regardless of his position as a Yale "professor" ...he's a paid liberal shill of the DNC and media companies.
@@markmomoko1600 I do not agree with your callous assessment of this interview, but you are welcome to your opinion, as are we all.😇 And I'm certain you are aware of what is said about opinions.
@@StephiSensei26 this simple married couple - czcams.com/users/RedactedNews - knows more about the world than your so-called Yale professor. watch this duo for abit, they will wake you up.
He has written many books, Timothy Snyder is really really on the money and has been for years
Yup, he is really on money and knows what to say others to make money whether that's truth or not!
can you really make money by writing?
@@investor615 what did he say that wasn't true?
Really Really??
@@garethwynn01 Snyder said the Putin wants to bring Ukraine and Russia back together; perhaps Putin might want this deep down, but he knows it is not possible in reality, and I don't think that is his aim - for example, the Kremlin has already said that the fighting would stop immediately if the two People's Republics were recognised as well as Crimea being a part of Russia
That was a great interview and provides context to the whole situation and how it may evolve
@@gordanaarsenic3649 putin is not going to die from old age 😸 I hope it’s on tv!
@@gordanaarsenic3649 Putin is a vermin! And everybody knows it now
It's always easy to speak after events happened and to such extent, and then just say what others will like irrespective of truth.
He quote fakes news. What else is true from him?
Not much context really. Incredibly one-sided and blind to a lot of rather key details.
Ukraine knew they would have to win a war against Russia to be free of Russia. The alternative is a 100% chance of extinction by annexation for their nation.
Zelenskyy's advisor pretty much nailed Russia's battle plan in an interview a couple of years ago.
"That's a wonderful question" - that's how you know the interview is going well! The points about the plurality of viewpoints allowed in a democracy being "messy" and "indecisive" according to Putin was fascinating!
They are if all you value is your own certainty. Dealing with people in anyway other than the autocratic is often like herding cats but, basic ways of doing things only works for basic people. For humanity to progress we need to move on from basic ways of doing things. We need to move on from the old ways of organising our lives, and learn to adapt. Nationalism is politics for basic people, and we can do better than that. Putin doesn't want to adapt and accordingly, he finds himself sharing the ideas of the extremists in the West. To him the world is too uncertain for him to accept. Yet, he's failing by his own metric to improve the welfare of his own people, and reduce their insecurity. That's why he's going after Ukraine, because in his own thinking it shouldn't exist. But, it does and a lot of Russians and Ukrainians are paying the price for his folly. It didn't have to happen but Georgia should have been a warning but, we ignored that didn't we? For convenience sake. It's time we started to stop thinking everybody wants to do what we do, and show others that it works. We're failing at that too because instead of fixing our own problems we brush them under the mental carpet. It's ironic but the US is suffering too in life expectancy, increasing poverty, and greater insecurity for its own people over time. So, do people take the US seriously? No, not in the way it thinks they do. They take the US' wealth seriously but, beyond that I don't think so. But wealth and great virtue are not the same. The same problems with power, greed, and corruption are in the US, but with a liberal spin on it. And people know that. It's like which version would you prefer? Russia or the US. If you are poor, there's increasingly little difference. That's the problem, nevermind Putin and Trump being stuck in a fantasy 20th century, and insecure people craving security are turning to authoritarian. Haven't we learnt that lesson already? Likes like we haven't.
Snyder always gives credit to the right questions. Krishnan knows what to ask.
@@BigHenFor I agree 90% with your very intelligent position but! Wouldn't be the Japanese system or the south Korean system or even the Chinese system best suited for human happiness? Humans need some stability, and the American way of life" With his rugged individualism are too rash and too without mercy or human spirit. So the American individualism is also a very very bad sickness
I think what you meant to write is that's how you know an interview is scripted.
Completely correct.
Ukraine's freedom and democracy is paramount to all of our freedoms and democracies. It's the front line of that ideology. To let a democratic Ukraine fall would be an existential threat to the entire democratic world. We can not let it happen; even if it's only for our own sakes.
A country whose government has been put there by a coup d'état orchestrated by a foreign country, that gives away its most valuable assets to foreign governments, locks up and intimidates the opposition, bans political parties and purges its civil society of anyone who disagrees (including a sizable part of its own population) is not an example of democracy. Besides that, you should stop fetishizing democracy as if its something to kill and die for, especially as your social and economic system, capitalism/corporatism, is fundamentally incompatible with any notion of genuine popular self‐government (if there was any semblance of the electorate having real agency we would not be in the predicament we are in because it would be against the interests of the majority. The fact that the government can work against the economic interests and material wellbeing of the majority of its citizens gives the lie to such nonsense).
@@view1st Stop with that Russian nonsense have you seen what is happening in Russia. They are more police the people on the streets. You mate are spreading Fascist lies
@@view1st Russia is capitalist country what planet are you living on?
@@view1st Thousands of people on the streets is not a coup. It's a revolution and they threw out a corrupt Russian puppet. You people are not going to get away with this bullshit any longer people like me will fight you for as long and as hard as it needs. You are bootlicker of the worst kind. Russia is killing anyone not soldiers but Women and kids causing millions of refugees. Just as Hitler did and we beat him like we will beat you. Your vision of the world is evil and warped. No Ukrainian wants Russian control or troops in their country.
@@zulubeatz1
A 'revolution' paid for by the USA led by neo‐fascists and ultra‐nationalists and that serves its strategic geopolitical interests.
I have been obsessed with this war since it started, this man hit the nail on the head in how Putin has been miss understood 👍🏻👍🏻
_miss understood_ Okay, I know Putin's a coward. But why go so far as to deny him his gender?
@@freeopinion2140 After 2014 Atomic bombs were reasonable for Ukraine to have after Russia dismissed Ukraine’s territorial integrity regarding Krim, if you consider the Budapest memorandum. Besides that I don’t think Russia is threatened by nuclear weapons. Probably everyone has supersonic missiles, intercontinental missiles, nuclear submarines etc. Ukraine with or without nuclear weapons would not change the outcome of nuclear war. It’s more about loosing the option for military intervention, and the only threat for Russia is a western Ukraine and the possibility to loose control over Bjelarus.
@@disendospatates6047 czcams.com/video/y7wECccLRec/video.html
Great interview. Ukraine can’t loose.
Nations are forged with battlefields and stories, Putin has given Ukraine a great story, and by extension assured that Ukraine has an identity that they are willing to die for no matter what.
Lose *
This war is an arms bonanza for US. Russia was badded but you can't say it. Us will Arm Ukraine until there is mass distruction of Ukraine it's crazy they don't want negotiations . They want Russia to look monsterous for a regime change . Ukraine is a war by proxy. Biden hopes it will win him an election. If he truly care about the Ukrainian people he would call for a cease fire and negotiastion before anyone else dies . He doesn't care he wants to get Putin .Many in the world will starve due to sanctions . Who cares lets get Putin says US.
Ukraine is going to be smashed as US officials (those who can talk freely) indicated only after 5 days into this war
They are surrounded in the Donbas by the Russians,beaten in Mariupol,next Odessa,can`t lose you are having a laugh.
Was bummed out when you guys took this video down earlier. Thanks for making it available again 😎👍
@@guyquartermaine2685 mine just said "failed to load, retry" and then it was gone from my view history. Maybe someone tryed reporting it then 🤷
This is a man who knows what he is talking about. 👍🇷🇴
I almost burst out laughing. Ukraine is a meat grinder; the Ukrainians have already lost. Have you spent any time listening to sources outside the mainstream media? Snyder is glib, but he hasn't got a clue IMHO.
Brilliant and relieving perspectives!!! Bless Mr. Synder. SHARP man.
What he's saying here is true. Every person, who cares about democracy should listen to this interview time and again and the leaders of democratic countries should listen to this interview for however long it takes them to understand what is being said here and to start acting accordingly.
Which country is democratic again?
Timothy is the go to bloke for all things Russian and Ukrainian. It would be a benefit to have him on more frequently. Probably the best American expert in these two warring nations.
That's why we should all muck in and not be so naive or arrogant as to assume this horrible mindless carnage could never happen to other European Nations. This is surely a wake up call. Ukraine will forever be the indesputable blueprint of this. 🌎💔🙏
What about the horrible mindless carnage that should never have happened to Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Syria then - you middle-class white supremacists are a bit selective in your outrage - you are the one who is asleep here,
Protect our freedoms, because those in power sometimes won't.
Great "lecture", Mr. Timothy Snider. Thank you.
Short, direct and no nonsense interview with excellent questions and answers. Good job!
Very good interview, we owe a lot to Ukraine.
You sure do_ you have fought Russia to the last Ukrainian. It's called The American way: or, Ain't that America.
"If future of the world hangs on Ukraine, then why do countries give so little?"
wow, it does not get said any clearer that this. We have to win if we believe democracy has to win over autocracy. All democracies should come together and invest 25% of our military efforts to win this war over Tyranny and autocracy. This is our moment to stand up for our values. NOW is the time.
which democracies are you talking about,as over the last two years especially there has been no democracy in the west.
agreed!
What values ? Imperialism ? Colonialism ? Racism ? Fascism ? "All democracies should come together and invest 25% of our military efforts to win this war ?" Really ? Maybe you should go 100% and ensure that we bring an end to life on this planet. Wow, it doesn't get any more stupid than this. . .are we a nation of imbeciles being swept along by irresponsible fools - judging by most of the comments here, it appears that we are almost there. . . . .
Fantastic interview. Thank you very much for that. Very grim outlook on the future, yet very logical. Lose Ukraine, lose the world.
Absolutely.
U got that right
Not so bad. He doesn't think putin wants to die, which is good.
Excellent and sensible Timothy. Putin is lost in a historical version of his Russia and his patriotism. He doesn't like messy
.....makes sense so to bomb the messy people to impose your order.
Truth is though, all civilisations have been messy and its startling to think of his lack of judgement, historic understanding and quite frankly some kind of notion that he's 'other' and great.....he's no more 'other' than the innocent people he's killing..all the while protecting himself bodily at the end of the long table and giving Mothers and Widows 'medals'.
Hitler had this mindset...an ideology that he rose to power and could try to impose. I so hope the Russian people see it for what it is. The west isn't perfect...none of us are, but slaughtering innocents and brothers is never justified.
Pop - I totally agree.
Alexander Dugin could be to blame for Putini's paranoid, revisionist historical interpretations. He's a modern day Rasputin.
Unfortunately, Dugin argues that Eurasia can't survive against the expansion of Oceania unless it asserts itself by force to vye for control of the entire continent...
Absolutely well said 👏🏻👏🏻🇺🇦
czcams.com/video/y7wECccLRec/video.html
Yes, he reminds me of Hitler.
This interview shows how valuable Channel 4 is. Privatisation of it would weaken democracy in the UK.
Bunk.
Yes. It is the best UK news channel.
The beeb is essentially subdued and controlled by the government using threats and coercion.
@@LewisSkeeter back to Russia, Vlad.
Democracy 🙄
Give me liberty over Democracy every time
Channel 4 is for the metropolitan bourgeoisie elites
if you cant create fear its impossible to dominate ...
This is a perfect interview and explaination. Even though some points I cannot totally agree, it is very interesting to know other views.
This acaademic is uncannily presient. Am readding this for the first time after 8 or 9 month after the Russian invasion started. And it turns out to be spot on!
The smartest and the most competent political analyst that I have seen.
Finally, a constructive analysis that clearly defines what comes next as a choice
COMPLETE BOGUS. The analysis is destructive and he doesn't get it at all. Better watch oliver stone's documentaries
This war is a fight to the death, and Russia isn't losing without a NATO intervention, which isn't going to happen.
Big Fan of Timothy Snyder. Always comes up with insightful and a totally different perspective.
Some straight rationality
As always, this intelligent man again with an incredibly interesting analytical prognosis - thanks!
Timothy Snyder is someone who is at home describing something we all know or realize, but can't describe to others what we see or know, without letting emotions and lack of the knowledge of words to block our description of our thoughts. That being laboriously said, he confirmed what I already feel.
I agree but I think he misses why he doesn't like the west. (09:22) It's not because west has the democracy and plurality, it's because the imbalance of the power. He questions why the USA and Nato can bring their forces to Latvia but he cannot.
Russia is much much weaker then the west combined, and Putin doesn't want to accept this fact. He knows the values of western democracies and what west can do and cannot do . He is trying to use his power most effectively but obviously he doesn't care about human lives. If the west could behave recklessly like him, he wouldn't dare to do most of the things he has been doing.
and one more thing to add, western governments are actually hypocrites, that's true, it's not the values stopping governments to act like Putin, but the power of people and the existence of democracy. they know they'd pay for what they do. when they have the opportunity they become war criminals like they did in Iraq, Japan, Afghanistan, and many other places.
@@hodor2704 Yeah, he's a bit of a self-loathing guilt monger, socialist who would love it to be fair for all. He's a bit of a Aristocrat that doesn't understand the power of the American people to hold their Govt in check.
Snyder is a newly hatched hawk because he's spent his life studying Ukraine. Do you think we should run our life by what Lavrov, the Ukrainians, and the various Deep States agree upon?
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The world has already changed based on the invasion itself. And not in the direction of the West. It reminds me of the Balkan wars as a precursor to WWI. Slavs again.
@@mikem668 valid point, but where do you draw the line. We live by rules, not spheres of influence. You don't walk past someone getting beaten in the park, when you can make a difference. If we wanted a better society, we have to fight for it.
@@steveblevins9018 I can't tell you where I'd draw the line. But I have a couple of heuristics. First, would you go yourself? Second, in theory all lives are equal. But my son's life is more important to me than the son of someone I don't know in many other countries. Not that other lives are unimportant. But my neighbors and fellow citizens take priority over lots of other people. And I expect my leaders to recognize that fact.
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Your example is difficult. Lots of factors would come into play. But here's another example.
I was taught deep water survival by Navy SEALS. We were taught never to go in the water to save someone who is drowning. Is that a rule? Sure. Would I break it? Sure. Would I break it for everybody? No. And I'm pretty sure the SEALS would do the same.
Glad you guys put this one back up-one of the few intelligent voices on this subject!
This guy is talking American rubbish. Watch a video that's factual and then make your mind up on who's kidding who. czcams.com/video/y7wECccLRec/video.html
The Ukraine really needs to be invited into NATO after all this is over.
why not Iraq?
@@wolfgangvon4261 Do Iraq share the same ideals in hatred for commies as NATO
There wont be a Ukraine when this is over.
Unfortunately, it only ends IF UKRAINE NEVER JOINS NATO.
The only alternative REALISTIC end, will be Global & Nuclear.
Ukraine chose not to join NATO
One of the few really reliable commentators on the big picture.
The World’s Moral And Practical Obligation To Ukraine
In Ukraine, there is both a moral and practical obligation, which transcends the fact of there being no formal obligation from NATO or the EU.
As we know from history, formal obligations crumble in the face of reality when dealing with someone like Putin. I am not complaining so much as I am cautioning the entire world that if it is not willing to nip in the bud the actions of Putin now, we will most certainly be compelled to confront him later. And the effects of that will probably be much worse than the risk of starting a third world war now.
A world that bows to the will of a bully and dictator today, will either become a virtual pawn of that bully and dictator or be forced to fight him later. As we saw with Hitler, because the world was not willing to confront him early on, the ultimate conflagration that resulted was much worse than it might otherwise have been.
Just as a free individual cannot long endure the abuse and domination of a bullying neighbor, so too, the free nations of the world cannot long endure the abuse and dominance of a bully and dictator among them.
Of course, the possibility of nuclear war is paralyzing, and the present fear of that happening is what gives Putin his ultimate edge. He knows this and wants the world to think he might be crazy enough to use nuclear weapons. We need to call his bluff by letting him know that we will even risk nuclear war to save freedom and democracy in the world.
The world not only allowed Putin to exist but did business with him. Now humanity must pay the karmic price for its complicity. And that price may be a third world war, which might even mean nuclear war.
This is a horrifying thought, but reality does not care what is horrifying to humanity. The world we create and the results of that creation are as they are. If we cater to autocrats, we will have to live with autocracy as the way of the world - or we can stop allowing autocrats to evolve and exist in the world.
At the moment, Ukraine is the center of our universe. It is the focal point and pivot point for our future. What we decide to do there will determine the direction we will take to that future and what that future will be. Will it be a world where freedom and democracy become the way of the world for all humankind, or will it be a world where the dream of freedom and democracy is dead, and slavery and autocracy rule?
JRB
I couldn't agree more. This nightmare Ukrainians face today, I've seen it coming clear as cristal for the last 20 years now. This confrontation, after the smaller ones in Georgia and Moldavia, was part of Putin's plan all along. He just needed the right momentum, while silencing every opposition, brainwashing a large part of the population, disrupting information and perverting people's minds and views and puting himself in the position of the "Great Protector" or the Russian Motherland and Russian Orthodox faith (Patriarch Kyril could in a way himself be seen as an oligarch, as head of the Russian church, a devilish corporation in itself). That's where we are now. It is indeed a pivotal terrifying moment, but there's no way we can escape our moral obligations and the terrible choice we have to make between coping with this ever growing threat in the years to come or stand up to defend not only Ukraine's future, but also the future of western democracy and liberty. If we fail, the 21st century will be known as the one who saw authoritarianism prevail over democracy and the world sink into darkness. I would rather not be part of the latter.
Mr. Bush. You are absolutely correct. Ukraine must win this war or else the maintenance of the gobal order of sovereign nations with the right of self-determination will crumble and our world will return to the law of the jungle.
@@cherylderue336 Ever wonder why they aren't siding with him? All of those countries do not agree with Putin, but they have relationships with Putin, both economic and political, that they think put them between a rock and a hard place. Or they have situations in their own countries that they feel would compromise them. Look it up, it's not a secret. And the country that really wants to "resurrect the white race" is Russia under Putin. You can look that up also.
Shove your 'moral and practical obligations' up that place where the sun never shines. . . .
We do have an obligation. It gave up its nuclear deterrent and we guaranteed its sovereign, and so did the Russians.
One year later.
This guy will never go hungry.
He is now in the process of eating his words together with the eggs on his face. Not the traditional word salad; for him, it’s word omelette.
Bon appetit.
"You just make up stuff and then invade them". Said with a straight face without any sense of irony.
lol I thought about that, too. I'm pretty sure he recognizes the irony though.
Well he's an American, they are the masters of "You just make up stuff and then invade them". (Yes, I know what irony is)
Same like USA finding chemical and biological weapons in Irak
Like iraq wmd never were true, hypocrisy of it all
First Western person analysis that is spot on.
What a superb interview. Intelligent questioning by Krishnan, allowing, welcoming and encouraging in-depth interesting intelligent answers . What a difference compared to the kind of farcical interviewing paxman used to do on the bbc … which never illicted anything except Punch and Judy facile tv.
Really feel for Ukraine. Feel like they are fighting for the freedom and liberty of all the civilised world, but they alone are suffering for it and every leader just watching. Heart breaking! God will keep you and bring through! He hears the blood of your people crying out from the earth for justice! And you will get that justice! Long live Ukraine!!!!!
Ukraine fighting for freedom and liberty,i don`t think so,it`s the people trafficking centre of the world,all other polictical parties banned,people stripped and tied to lamp posts,Zelensky the Puppet is owned by the Oligarch Kolomoisky.,it`s a lovely place.
God doesn't appear to be doing all that much, to be honest. Pretty much as through human history.
This guy really knows what he is talking about.
Really ? czcams.com/video/y7wECccLRec/video.html
Not even watched this yet but the title got me. Glad someone else is also saying it!
The WEST and the WORLD LEADERS SHOULD WATCH THIS 10 TIMES..and listen carefuly what this man is saying...
WORDS THAT MAKE SENCE
The irony of this message is only palpable lol
Dr. Snyder is totally correct. I read "On Tyranny" soon after publication and "The Road To Unfreedom" when it was published in early 2018. The latter is a prescient work predicting the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, I then read "Bloodlands". This interview sums up what I learned from reading his work. A Polish woman who survived the Battle of Warsaw, as a combatant, in 1944, prepared me in personal conversation and memoir in 2001 for my encounter with Dr. Snyder's great body of work. We are in a time of great peril evidenced by the embrace of cruel putinism equally embraced by cruel trumpism. Partners in cruelty. Send Ukraine more weapons. SOS!
Ukrainian.people.fight.with.all.their.hearts
West or the Americans. All are paying price for American politics
Totally agree with your conclusion. We should be doing everything possible to help the Ukrainian military. In addition , we need to get the truth to the Russian citizens.
The hacker group Anonymous is trying!!!!
The west is just using ukraine as Cannon fodder.
@@DK-zu6tt How'd they do getting the Schwarzenegger speech out? Or did they bother?
Take your Rose tinted glasses off and do your own research ,
@NP And the alternative is? Complete subjugation to a fascist dictator and the destruction of your country?
Excellent interview, from both host and guest. More like this please C4 👍😎
You got it absolutely… brilliant interview with a very wise individual…💕💕💕
This aged like milk!
Very dangerous when a person in control of a powerful country gets into that frame of mind. This man has things totally in focus. He has the best grip on events I have heard.
You should read his books, 'On Tyranny' and 'The Road to Unfreedom'.
thank you for the great interview!
Excellent interview!
Great interview. But My. Synder's point of 'making up stuff about countries and then invading them' is in fact something that the US and UK have done in recent memory. WMD in Iraq etc....
Of course,Putin is using America and UK play book.
That's a big point and is a fundamental flaw in his analysis.
Him talking about Hypocrisy is real irony hear.
People with democratic mindsets will think alike. People with autocratic mindsets will also think alike. Those who think it is "okay" for the powerful and big to take over the weaker and smaller nation's land and assets, then they belong to the autocratic mindset group. These people if residing in democratic states should move to autocratic states and be controlled by dictators.
Umm Ukraine has been supporting neo-fascist groups for some years now... pretty sure the world went to war to stop that silliness 80 years ago
@@maigepresents5840 Less so than the Russian neo fascists, they are a tiny minority in Ukraine & ALL war crimes should be tried at the end of this war.
@@maigepresents5840 That's complete BS. What Russia did is like saying I believe there are nazis living in your backyard and therefore I have the right to trespass onto your land, despite your objections, to rid of these nazis, and kill your family members along the way. Oh and btw, we will remove you as the head of the family with one of my family member to make sure there are no nazies. Putin is a complete BS liar.
@@maigepresents5840 Also, anybody (American or European) who believe Putin's propaganda needs to be deported to Russia.
Brilliant interview!
Timothy Snyder is brilliant and needs to be interviewed by all the western media outlets.
Usually the guy in the suit asks the questions and the one in the field answers them. Nice change of pace. Great interview, somebody that can actually speak with insight on how Putin sees the world around him!
I hope the West is listening to Timothy Snyder.
We have many experts in Scandinavia that are saying the exakt same thing. We must all in the name of humanity, democrasy and freedom of rights stop this evil Puthler. He wants his Sovjetunionen back and both Nato and EU has to stop this madness.// Love and light from Sweden🙏🏼🇸🇪💖🇺🇦🌻
An outstanding commentary on the war in Ukraine and the future of democracy in Eastern Europe.
Krishnan, channel 4. THANK YOU! the best news channel out there.
Yes, we need to learn from this and respond firmly as democratic societies.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love the references to British Empire and American race issues. Accept the past and become better!!
All history is a lie anyway….that many of us already know!
@@DoubleTroubles729 not all, just depends who is telling it. Of course some stories of history are not accurate but who with half a brain doesn’t know that. Not sure what you are referring to here??
@@DoubleTroubles729 What a load of nonsense. Your comment is logically inconsistent...
"things that dont make sense succeed all the time, and they succeed by making other people not make sense"= the best analysis of Trumpism that I've ever heard....
This. And it’s an ever-looming threat. Even today I see a wave of logical fallacies constructed and staged. Do that many people crave sadopopulism, or are they that lazy/scared?
There are literally only a handful of intellects on the face of the planet who’s ideas people should give an ear to and possibly consider, and Mr. Snyder’s are up there at the top of that list at this point in time...
Snyder is a brilliant scholar and fully engaged in now!
Great analysis by Synder, a forecast authority on autocracy.
I hope Western politicians share his views and properly support Ukraine not just with defensive weapons but some offensive weapons so they can start retaking their country.
That would effectively start Ww3 as it would be a declaration of war on another UN member state.
@@BUFUmic Hrmmm. Isn't that exactly what Russia has done in Ukraine? Even used another country to launch its invasion. There has to be a point where the West stops Putin dictating all the terms.
Apologies I didn't mean the UN but NATO, besides having re read your comment, you do know that the West has been supplying offensive weapons to the Ukraine already? I should point out I'm not condoning the invasion but highlighting the hypocrisy of the West, the US did have bio labs there with the capability of developing bio weapons. The AZOV brigade and right sector are Nazi's who have formerly been incorporated into the Ukrainian military. Who we have and are arming currently. Also the US have used chemical weapons on civilian populations indiscriminately in the past, notably with the Vietnamese and agent Orange so can't really criticise Russia in all fairness.
Please keep your stupid and irresponsible opinions to yourself - as I and many others would prefer to see a continuation to human life on this planet.
Great interview
Thanks! Great interview, Snyder has a clear vision.
I think Putin of 20 years ago and Putin of today are completely different people.
He may have started out as a tactician, but he has consolidated so much power in his own hands and has been at the top so long, he's practically living in an alternate reality, which is compounded by his subordinates giving him bad information.
He is not. He has always been like that. Who in the right mind would bomb apartment buildings in Russia killing russian people just to justify Chechenya war to show himself as a powerful leader and to win presidential election? Putin did exactly that.
Putin is a classic pschopath. Narcisssist with grandious selfasteem and a fragile ego uphold due to he is smart and manipulating people into beliving their his best friend. The fish eyes are empty as is inner being.
Literally spoonfed garbage from mainstream media.
Ukraine is protecting all of us! Slava Ukraini!
You are absolutely right Mr Snyder.Thank u
Good teachers RAISE good questions; great teachers PRAISE good questions.
Greatest Putin analysts alive.
I hope that Mr. Snyder's insight has been shared with all the Democratic Leaders, NATO the UN and any military decision makers for a clear understanding of these horrific events unfolding at the hand of Putin.
What makes you think they care? They don`t.
Gerry burntwood 100% agree, so many brainwashed dummies around these days with short memories sadly
@@gerryburntwood9617 Lies, lies, and even more lies. Reported.
@@tams805 the first thing that dies is truth in a war, you just proved it by stifling debate, yet all I’ve said is from the various professors in America who are authority on this and they are also found on you tube., nothing like a fascist! Like those USA states banning books!, even one’s on the Holocaust called maus!😩
@@tams805 you’ve been reported for harassing me!
This man is brilliant! I love to listen to him talk and explain things because he's spot on
Forget NATO and the European Union. Ukraine needs a United European Association where the rights of all its members are protected in the face of any aggressor. Both NATO and the European Union do not pass the Good Samaritan test. They have left Ukraine lying on the side of the road wounded and battered on their way to important meetings!
Where can we hear more from this guy?
You should read his books, particularly 'On Tyranny' and 'The Road to Unfreedom'.
Down the pub at closing time. . . . .
I learned very much from your thougts, thank you!
Good interview. Guest gives sharp and crisp answers without emotion.
Why had it just been taken down? It was down minuts after being released. Did it get hacked or what happened here? This is the best outlay regarding this war ever since it was started.
I think CZcams might be verifying content about the war.
I agree with ALMOST everything this gentleman is saying.....however a man that can easily kill civilians,,,women,,children schools,and hospitals and have no regard for human life can easily drop a nuclear bomb on Ukraine.....his military have gotten embarrassed his people are turning against him his financial situation is getting worse by the day and if he lives he will not stay in power. So look his future is dim and his days are numbered obviously I feel that he could feel that this is his worst case scenario so in his thinking why not drop a nuclear bomb ........and if the decision is made.....who can stop him??? And he can live inside the Kremlin during nuclear fallout and stay alive for probably years
......in short,,,,Putin is running out of cards to play to save face
Timothy Snider's point here was that putin most probably wouldn't use any nuclear weapons because he realises that he would not be able to avoid nor survive the repercussions.
I'm hoping that he's right.
@@JamesC785 If he gives a Sgt bout the people of Russia.
Hang on, wasnt there another, similar, guy 7 decades back who turned upon his own at the last.......
@@JamesC785 oh absolutely I agree with you nobody is crazy enough to do that......if anyone I think Putin would simply the fact of the position he's in....hes really got no out game...he is backed in a corner the evil lil rodent
Snyder said, other people read books and have different ideas in them... but there are people who don't read books at all, cos they are too busy building their dictatorship...
A senior policeman I know once said that you should always give people a way out, and this is what NATO have to do for Putin.
Good analysis!
there is no negotiating with putin it is time the world realises that
Mr. Snyder's explanations are entirely understandable for the "normal" person. No need to degrade him towards the end. -How come you never ask politions to explain their jibberish?
Because experience shows they never do, even when asked.