A Tale Of Two Tractors That Aren't What They Seem - Massey-Ferguson 97 and 98 Tractors
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WOW, what a wonderful story, that is something else, I love it. Thanks for sharing!
Amazing story 👍
I learned something today - - - thank you
I grew up on a 1963 Massey Ferguson 50 with multipower...its still running,they were good tractors.
The 97 would have been a badass tractor to have in the day.
Back when manufacturers thought about the farmers and not the shareholders!!
Back in the days when America's was America's and Love thy Neighbor as thy Self. Plus most people Feared and Repected the most High God and his Son Jesus. PS 3 Great Tractor Builders, they all bought something to the table. Pretty Red Tractors. Thanks
Great looking tractors. And a good story
they're good looking too
Great story
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Who wouldn't enjoy taking a competitors cash to build them a "better" product?
exactly
The 98s were Oliver 990s not Super 99s. Disappointed there was no mention of the Super 95 Massey
Agreed on the 990 part. When I researched the 98, I could never find any evidence for the factory fire that is always told about. Which location and when was this fire?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Hi Chris, I always heard that Massey needed time to develop a big tractor after their merger with Ferguson, so they went to Oliver and Minneapolis Moline to help them fill in the gap until they could get the Massey 1100 and 1130 developed.
That's all I could find. They wanted in the big tractor market, and that was the fastest way. Seems like a factory fire of that scale would make the newspapers of the day.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Hey Chris I don't know if you had a chance to see Paul's latest video, if not you'll have to check it out I picked up a new toy.
@@stephenfonder7409 I watched it earlier today. Congratulations on your purchase! It looks sharp!
Pretty sad how Massey is still standing while Oliver and Moline are gone
In reality, Massey is not “ still standing.” The original Massey Company went down in 1982. Perkins Engine was taken over by Caterpillar.. Massey is now a subsidiary .
Fergieman
I seen this tractors for so long and never know the story, thanks for sharing
Massey have always been doing this.
So whenever i see an original paint 97, the paint is always yellow underneath. Why is that? Were they all painied yellow then shipped to massey to be painted? Or is it just a weird coincedence?
And the 95Super was a G-VI
We have a 95 a few other Massey and a bunch of MM
Correct
I mean.. anymore rebranding is very common with everything.
That Moline looks like 3/4 of it is engine! I don't remember anything that big from when I was a kid.
I actually own that Minneapolis Moline tractor.....The G705 is a stump puller.
@@keithlucas6260 most of the Moline I remember were like farmalls, etc.. they weren't big yet, like you see now. My first tractor experience up close was a Johnny Pop! The first tractor I got to drive was a 8N.
@@jamesdiehl8690
my grandparents lived in Minnesota and my aunts and uncles lived in both Illinois and Indiana, so we saw a lot of "Prairie Gold, Farmall red and JD green."
I've also have a 51 Case VAC-14 which is my favorite and an old International Harvester backhoe.
I also had a Massey Ferguson model 30 industrial that I got rid of.
Oddly enough the two big MM's I got from Texas and the 335 came from Arizona.
@@keithlucas6260 my dad grew up on farms in Arkansas. He used two Belgian draft horses for farming and the family didn't have a tractor until he got in high school in Shawnee KS. His dad bought a Farmall Cub.
@@jamesdiehl8690
I can relate to that seeing all the tack required and the old implements to hook up to a draft team in my uncle's barn.
I can also say my grandmother's sister actually went to California by covered wagon.
Moline dealers were hot that massy dealers were selling Moline built tractors for less than Moline dealers could sell them.
the 3,71 would be close to 100 bhp.
'48 model G, '56 model 335, and a '75 G705 MM....
Oliver built plows for several companies like Case and Ford also.
Strangely the 98 is smaller than the 97. Look a Massey Ferguson tractor without the famous 3 point hitch!
The 97 has a crap ton more torque as well. They’re close in horsepower, but the 97 has a massive edge
Notice the generator on the 98 is at the rear of the engine? Next time I look
at one I've got to see how they did that.
The Detroit Diesel engine had accessory drive pulley on the rear of the engine, where the timing gears were, also.
the gm had a cam at the top of the block - so a drive out the rear was easy , look on some v8 motors that also run air pumps or alternators in trucks and buses at the rear of the motor ,
They lied to their customers though.
Yep. Now days it's all about the money greed and destroying another person's business, I'm here to take you out of business.