Do you not know that they kicked out Tiffany and then the group basically imploded after that? Girlicious was never gonna happen anyway. Charlye followed her instinct and I'd say she dodged a bullet.
Charlye just save her money. Tiffany is still in therapy for her experience on the group. And Natalie and Chrystina were completely traumatized too. They decided to be very religious after that and Chrystina never want to do pop music again. Only Nicole was able to continue a little more but idk where she is now. Charlye was smart and good decision for her. She didn't heard mermaids singing.
What irony that the girls who participated in the "peace" conversation were the girls that made the group. Karma's a bitch Charlye sorry...you didnt wanna make peace so
***** yeah really.... upsetting. Watching all the other girls sit down and talk out their problems, and seeing how much they wanted to get along was very up lifting. Instead of talking about who needs to leave they instantly say "It would suck if she was sent home because I really want her in the group. She's great."
all 5 of them woulda made a great group. this was my favorite performance. Charlie was real and peeped it out. we all knew she woulda made the group but she wouldn't fake it why she acted like that so she'd get sent home.
fuck tiff is awesome. someone give her her own talk show please! God. She's the only reason, next to nicole, why i'm rewatching this like ten years later haha.
I just realized that they either lip sing or they sing over their recorded back tracks during the performances. I love Tiffanie's attitude and Nichole has a beautiful voice!
charyle was immature and petty . like if everyone else could fix their issues with one another and put the past behind them then she should of been able to as well . she clearly really loved the drama .
charlye is really starting too get on my last nerve. like if everyone else can put the bullshit aside and try too get along then she should be able as well. she needs too get over herself and grow up already. things in life don't always go our ways.
I totally agree because Charlye's problem is that she wants the group to be her way and only people she likes in it but that's not how the music industry works when it comes to groups
***** in this world where money count's fuck your attitude if you can't be professional n put the shit drama away and get on with it,Time is money .Take your attitude and dramas outside In every job there's always conflict.
charlie knew from the very beginning that this group would be composed of 3 RANDOM GIRLS chosen by robin? if she cant handle it then she shouldnt have come into the competition in the first place.
Charlye just holds on to all her resentment. If she hadn't been around for the kitchen confrontation I think they coulda resolved their differences a lot quicker.
charlye was also very unprofessional and i think because she didn’t work her problems out with natalie and christina that was another reason why she probably didn’t make it into the group. she let a once in a lifetime opportunity slip away because she couldn’t get over her ego and make amends. she probably regretted it afterwards.
Actually, I think Charlye is acting wisely. Look at what happened to Girlicious. Exactly, it didn't happen. Charlye was right. Forming a group by putting random girls who stayed under one roof for a long period of time and was kind of forced to get along, it is hard to get an amazing group like that.
Charyle shot herself in the foot but she was right. You can't take a bunch or random girls force them together and expect them to be best friends. She was right. Pussycat dolls, paradiso girls, g.r.l. and girlicious all fell apart. The only girl groups that I think ended up fairly successful and actually grew together is little mix. This was not for the music at all. Robin antin is just Money hungry. She is unable to sustain any longevity in her groups. Pcd would have actually lasted , if nichole was not the main focus. You gotta keep everyone happy.
I don't like Charlye and Tiffanie as i think they are too aggressive however i do think that Tiffanie is more willing to work in a group for the competition and that is one factor i do like
The editing in this episode is a dead giveaway - during their "make peace" conversation, the girls are in the exact same outfits as in rehearsal in part 1 of the epi. Such fragmented production.
It's funny because Natalie & chrystina were like the cockiest girls ever but the other girls confidence bothered them so much because they were doing better than them
How and why did they not ever pick up on Tiffanie's awful mic control and technique!? It's so bad, she always takes such a loud breath right into the mic before singing and it totally ruins the performance!
Thats NOT true.. The Spice girls did audition to be in the group... After that live in a house together and became friends... Watch their specials on youtube...
For all of you saying you hate Tiffanie's voice , you don't know what good music is . Her voice is powerful and very different from the rest of the girls , they compared her voice to Jennifer Hudson ! Thats huge alone , plus Tiffanie as well as Charlye were always on top , never ever in the bottom . So yeah they may have been bitchey but they had the talent to back it up and they knew it ! These five should have been Girlicious they would have been great together !
Don't think so .. She blocked her in the shot.. I said clearly meaning my mind's made up, and it's evident in Charlye's mannerisms.. If you watch people the way I do you begin to learn what they're thinking without them saying it.
I kind of agree with Charlye. It's just unnatural to put a bunch of girls in a house and expect them to get along all the time. I think it's for the best that she didn't make it in Girlicious, she would've been unhappy. I know I would have been, I couldn't stand to be with those bitches all the time.
charyle looks sooo annoyed 0:22 and tiff is so right, i mean i kno everyone is being a bitch to eachother but they are just getting really intiminated by this comp because only 3 are going to make it! well its kinda 4 but...
I think this was completely rigged. Chrystina should have gone home SO many times, and Robin kept her because she liked her. Charlye is an amazing talent and would have been a much stronger member of the group. I think if Robin had picked based of talent, not based off favoritism the group would have been more successful (now that Tiffany's gone I couldn't care less about the group).
I could TOTALLY be wrong, but I thought it wasn't that she was second-guessing, it was just that she didn't want to be in a group with Chrystina & Natalie?
Funny how clearly fake the show was, people don't know that they were using Auto-tune for Natalie to make it sound like she could hold a pitch. People also didn't know that they had already decided who was in the group. Girlicious was supposed to be Charlye, Kristina, Nicole & Natalie but because of some issue with Charlye (Some say she found out she was pregnant, and others say she had some criminal charges pending) I believe you see it near the end of this episode the producers need to talk with Charlye off camera and in the very next episode it not mentioned and instead of it being the second to the last episode its now the finale and they do a changeup in the elimination announcements, instead of picking members to the final 2 they change it after chosing Nicole and Tiffani they say "Now the next girl we call out will NOT be in Girlicious" also each episode was filmed only less than a week in advance before airing.
@valianted but that has nothing to do with why girlicious didnt work one girl was forced to quit one girl didnt get enough solos and she quit so another girl went with her so it was all robyn
I don’t think she was given a second chance to see if she was gonna make it. I think they kept her around for the dramatic effect of choosing 4 girls in stead of 3. Before this performance the girls had a talk with Ron Fair (even though it was edited in the finale episode) and Charlye basically said she didn’t think she could work with the others. I think from that point their minds were already made up but they also know that it’s a reality tv that needs a couple plot twists for ratings.
Now looking back at this show again, it's obvious that Charlye cost herself a shot at being in Girlicious. Wonderful voice, horrible attitude
Do you not know that they kicked out Tiffany and then the group basically imploded after that? Girlicious was never gonna happen anyway. Charlye followed her instinct and I'd say she dodged a bullet.
Charlye just save her money. Tiffany is still in therapy for her experience on the group. And Natalie and Chrystina were completely traumatized too. They decided to be very religious after that and Chrystina never want to do pop music again. Only Nicole was able to continue a little more but idk where she is now.
Charlye was smart and good decision for her. She didn't heard mermaids singing.
I feel like Robyn might've made it a 5 girl group but Charyle made it clear she wouldn't put her issues aside
my favorite performance of all time is How many times how many lies!!! I wish there was a studio version of this! It sounds SO GOOD
What irony that the girls who participated in the "peace" conversation were the girls that made the group. Karma's a bitch Charlye sorry...you didnt wanna make peace so
***** yeah really.... upsetting.
Watching all the other girls sit down and talk out their problems, and seeing how much they wanted to get along was very up lifting. Instead of talking about who needs to leave they instantly say "It would suck if she was sent home because I really want her in the group. She's great."
I guess Charyle didn't want this dream enough to put her differences aside. Well it's her loss. Too bad for her if she can't handle it.
all 5 of them woulda made a great group. this was my favorite performance. Charlie was real and peeped it out. we all knew she woulda made the group but she wouldn't fake it why she acted like that so she'd get sent home.
fuck tiff is awesome. someone give her her own talk show please! God. She's the only reason, next to nicole, why i'm rewatching this like ten years later haha.
Re watching for Chrys mostly but Tiff's drama is the best haha
+Juliet Nerming rewatching cuz of natalie MEJIA
I prefer this version over the original!
there's something very beautiful and intriguing about tiffany
BINGEWATCHING during the lockdown. Thanks for this. Glad I found it!!!
Tiffanie is very professional
i was never natalie fan but the second she walked out you knew she had it in the bag. star quality without a doubt
nicole and natalie both have really unique voices
Natalie Slayed this song !!!! That's my guh
I just realized that they either lip sing or they sing over their recorded back tracks during the performances. I love Tiffanie's attitude and Nichole has a beautiful voice!
I agree but I'm pretty sure they sing live, maybe some backgound tracking for maybe some of the harmony..
natalie is my favourite! has been since the beginning and still is now that girlicious is a group :)
charyle was immature and petty . like if everyone else could fix their issues with one another and put the past behind them then she should of been able to as well . she clearly really loved the drama .
charlye is really starting too get on my last nerve. like if everyone else can put the bullshit aside and try too get along then she should be able as well. she needs too get over herself and grow up already. things in life don't always go our ways.
Agreed
I totally agree because Charlye's problem is that she wants the group to be her way and only people she likes in it but that's not how the music industry works when it comes to groups
***** in this world where money count's fuck your attitude if you can't be professional n put the shit drama away and get on with it,Time is money .Take your attitude and dramas outside
In every job there's always conflict.
i like the song how many times how many lies they sing it well especially christina xd
charlie knew from the very beginning that this group would be composed of 3 RANDOM GIRLS chosen by robin? if she cant handle it then she shouldnt have come into the competition in the first place.
It's so funny because now, currently, Nichole and Natalie are the two that keep in touch lol
Why don't they talk to Chrystina? Chrystina and Natalie were so close!
Tiffanie and Charlie are still best friends. Tiff is gonna be maid of honor in Charlie’s wedding
Tiff, Nat, and Nic are all cool. Crystina is the one who’s not cool with anyone, not even Natalie
@@nelit708 Chrystina is a born again christian now.
Aaron Beans so that’s why she dont talk to them? Wow
natalie reminded me of nicole from pcd for a second when she came out
Charlye just holds on to all her resentment. If she hadn't been around for the kitchen confrontation I think they coulda resolved their differences a lot quicker.
charlye was also very unprofessional and i think because she didn’t work her problems out with natalie and christina that was another reason why she probably didn’t make it into the group. she let a once in a lifetime opportunity slip away because she couldn’t get over her ego and make amends. she probably regretted it afterwards.
Nicole's voice is incredible
They should've been in a group all of them in one group 5 members!
Charlye was clearly intimidated by Chrystina.
Actually, I think Charlye is acting wisely. Look at what happened to Girlicious. Exactly, it didn't happen. Charlye was right. Forming a group by putting random girls who stayed under one roof for a long period of time and was kind of forced to get along, it is hard to get an amazing group like that.
Go Tiff! That's a really mature and professional action of yours :D
xoxo -M.
i love how mark calls robin sexy. i bet they pay him extra to say that
charlye looks like she's chris brown's girl twin
All 5 of them would've been great together!
Charyle shot herself in the foot but she was right. You can't take a bunch or random girls force them together and expect them to be best friends. She was right. Pussycat dolls, paradiso girls, g.r.l. and girlicious all fell apart. The only girl groups that I think ended up fairly successful and actually grew together is little mix. This was not for the music at all. Robin antin is just Money hungry. She is unable to sustain any longevity in her groups. Pcd would have actually lasted , if nichole was not the main focus. You gotta keep everyone happy.
At 8:02 Nichloe rlly did look like Hilary Duff just a hotter prettier sexier version! Lol and Nichlo can sing so... Her resemblance goes doowwn! Lol
I don't like Charlye and Tiffanie as i think they are too aggressive however i do think that Tiffanie is more willing to work in a group for the competition and that is one factor i do like
Charlye needed a lot of growing up
All 5 of them would make a great group
lol I guess this part of the series is why Charlye didnt make it into the group
The editing in this episode is a dead giveaway - during their "make peace" conversation, the girls are in the exact same outfits as in rehearsal in part 1 of the epi. Such fragmented production.
+Mag L wow... i can't belive you caught that! good eye!
I didn’t see it!
Wait what you mean? 7 years later lol
I wanna know where they get the people for the audience at the final performances... they all look so out of place! LOL
I think they all work for the record label
i love chrystina :D
Had Charlye put her differences aside I think she would’ve made it, shame she couldn’t fix her attitude
this is my favourite performence!!!
The reason charley didn’t win is cause she rude and just can’t learn to get a long with Natalie and chrystina
It's funny because Natalie & chrystina were like the cockiest girls ever but the other girls confidence bothered them so much because they were doing better than them
lil kim reminds me of snooki
Nicole so adorable, beautiful ^-^
Uhhh Tiff stop with the heavy breathing! I can't stand singers who don't know proper breathing techniques.
I thought I was the only one who was annoyed by all that hot breath in the mic.... 😂
I kinda loved Charlye I just wanna know what she thought when they made a group of 4 instead of 3. And Nichole is my girl she's so fucking cute!!!
damn. yeah she does.. o-o she's like GASPING for air.
How and why did they not ever pick up on Tiffanie's awful mic control and technique!? It's so bad, she always takes such a loud breath right into the mic before singing and it totally ruins the performance!
e morgan Easy she doesn't have bad mic technics it's just you weather singing, dancing walking around u gotta breathe!!
Thats NOT true.. The Spice girls did audition to be in the group... After that live in a house together and became friends... Watch their specials on youtube...
9:32 looks like Ilisa lol
Tiffanie sounds like she cannot breathe when shes singing!
For all of you saying you hate Tiffanie's voice , you don't know what good music is . Her voice is powerful and very different from the rest of the girls , they compared her voice to Jennifer Hudson ! Thats huge alone , plus Tiffanie as well as Charlye were always on top , never ever in the bottom . So yeah they may have been bitchey but they had the talent to back it up and they knew it ! These five should have been Girlicious they would have been great together !
Don't think so .. She blocked her in the shot.. I said clearly meaning my mind's made up, and it's evident in Charlye's mannerisms.. If you watch people the way I do you begin to learn what they're thinking without them saying it.
Thank god they pulled it together enough to sound amazing -- otherwise, this would've been the end.
i think they all did better cause they talked all their stuff out
charlye didnt but she just sounded did still sound a lil stress
I kind of agree with Charlye. It's just unnatural to put a bunch of girls in a house and expect them to get along all the time. I think it's for the best that she didn't make it in Girlicious, she would've been unhappy. I know I would have been, I couldn't stand to be with those bitches all the time.
charyle looks sooo annoyed 0:22
and tiff is so right, i mean i kno everyone is being a bitch to eachother but they are just getting really intiminated by this comp because only 3 are going to make it! well its kinda 4 but...
I wish charlye put her differences asideeee!
5th Harmony vs top 5 Girlicious, Girlicious > 5th Harmony!! Ok maybe not vocally but everything else 10/10.
I think this was completely rigged. Chrystina should have gone home SO many times, and Robin kept her because she liked her. Charlye is an amazing talent and would have been a much stronger member of the group. I think if Robin had picked based of talent, not based off favoritism the group would have been more successful (now that Tiffany's gone I couldn't care less about the group).
Nicole's voice is fuckin cute and so is she😍
I could TOTALLY be wrong, but I thought it wasn't that she was second-guessing, it was just that she didn't want to be in a group with Chrystina & Natalie?
OMG you are so right charlye did when she was mad at 0:21-0:23
Funny how clearly fake the show was, people don't know that they were using Auto-tune for Natalie to make it sound like she could hold a pitch. People also didn't know that they had already decided who was in the group. Girlicious was supposed to be Charlye, Kristina, Nicole & Natalie but because of some issue with Charlye (Some say she found out she was pregnant, and others say she had some criminal charges pending) I believe you see it near the end of this episode the producers need to talk with Charlye off camera and in the very next episode it not mentioned and instead of it being the second to the last episode its now the finale and they do a changeup in the elimination announcements, instead of picking members to the final 2 they change it after chosing Nicole and Tiffani they say "Now the next girl we call out will NOT be in Girlicious" also each episode was filmed only less than a week in advance before airing.
"if you click you click if you dont you dont"
yummy, do those words taste nice charlye?
because youre the one that didnt click, youre OUT!
^^ same!
Tiffanie breathes really loudly
@valianted but that has nothing to do with why girlicious didnt work one girl was forced to quit one girl didnt get enough solos and she quit so another girl went with her so it was all robyn
charlye shouldn't have had another chance her bad attitude to chrystina and Natalie, Nichole is irritating Carrie should've stayed instead of Nichole.
I don’t think she was given a second chance to see if she was gonna make it. I think they kept her around for the dramatic effect of choosing 4 girls in stead of 3. Before this performance the girls had a talk with Ron Fair (even though it was edited in the finale episode) and Charlye basically said she didn’t think she could work with the others. I think from that point their minds were already made up but they also know that it’s a reality tv that needs a couple plot twists for ratings.
@janet509092 Spice girls were actually FRIENDS and formed the group themselves.
@XxXmalaybabeXxX i think she said stop it i need you... and i think she said it becuz charlye wasnt going to apoligize. im not sure..
lol the ones who actually put there ish aside got in the group and arrogant charlye did not hmmm karma!!!
@mikobbyko you mean tiffanie did but got kicked..not charley . cheers
I love Nicole aha
u kno whats funny...nichole is the best singer in the group
yes there finally putting a side theres diffrences and acautally gettin a long .
@flawsiebear she was talking to charlie
It was so pathetic how they didn't just go to Charlye
@ 9;37, chirstinas mic is away from her mouth but how was she still able to sing it?
+ItRhymesz editing.
if charyle really wants this she should be smart and at least TRY to get along with the girls
Honestly I think all of em are childish. Grow up, put your differences.
who cares?! obviously charlye does and if it was charlye that won the challenge she would of been rubbing it in everyones face
8:47 whoa!!!!!!! that's nasty!!! why the hell is lil kim a freakin judge anyways!?!?!?!
Drama always make drama
@XxXmalaybabeXxX thought she said "i need youuu"
5 53 lol wtf is wrong with her teeth hhahahh
@BDollScream I know she doesn't make it in the group, but I like her anyway. Sorry Charlye!
@XxXmalaybabeXxX She said "I need you" lol.
Can you not say ass on TV? Why'd they change the lyric to face?
robin needs to realize shes in her 50's, like dress like your atleast in your 30's not like your 18-21
Marissa Johnston she works hard for body the most 18-20 year olds don't even have a body like that.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but natalie soud grat in that song!!
I still don't like chrystina though... lol
lol :)
2 UFOs at 2:05!!!
Yes Natalie, you do think you are the finest. This girl needs to stop lying. Her lies have been caught on tape before so she aint foolin' me.
omg i luv natilie butn wtf is wrong with her teeth at 10 54
Tiffani Canada is not racist okay
@BorEdZz robin and her r friends and robin asked her