Why Layne Norton Changed His Mind on Fasting and 4 Other Topics

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    0:00 - Intro
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    1:11 - BCAAs
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Komentáře • 500

  • @ThomasDeLauerOfficial
    @ThomasDeLauerOfficial  Před 7 měsíci +1

    Get my Free 1-Week Gut Health Protocol. No strings attached. Just good info: www.thomasdelauer.com/gut-health

    • @wellnesspathforme6236
      @wellnesspathforme6236 Před 6 měsíci

      Is saturated fat modifying cholesterol, or is the marginal iron in the meat that comes with saturated fat modifying cholesterol because of the pervasive general iron overload / bio-copper depletion condition due to the toxic, inorganic rusty iron filings saturating the processed food supply?

  • @aaronbailey23
    @aaronbailey23 Před 7 měsíci +121

    Every person who has come into contact with Thomas always says how nice of a guy he is. And the fact that he reached out to Layne to do some content together after he made a debunk video of him speaks volumes to the kind of person he is.

    • @jordanxfile
      @jordanxfile Před 7 měsíci +4

      😇

    • @Behindthejab
      @Behindthejab Před 5 měsíci +11

      I mean it’s good, but Thomas also made a ton of cash telling all of you bullshit first.
      If Layne has to come educate him, just follow Laynes content

    • @aaronbailey23
      @aaronbailey23 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@oldgrunt5569 No one else had Layne on their show after being called out. It’s unique no matter how you slice it. This is coming from a huge Layne fan btw. I’m not actually a big fan of most of Thomas’ content. And I completely agree that Layne and Israetel are the 2 best in the business hands down.

    • @Behindthejab
      @Behindthejab Před 5 měsíci

      @@oldgrunt5569 I follow many, but take allot with a grain of salt Layne and Israetel have been the most reliable for me. I particularly like Mike because he covers the data and then often gives just real world advice

    • @aaronbailey23
      @aaronbailey23 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@oldgrunt5569 there’s a 3rd option too which is just to do nothing at all lol. Like liver king for example. But I get your point. You take care too man. 😊

  • @violetfem1808
    @violetfem1808 Před 7 měsíci +38

    One reason I will Fast a little bit at times is to shrink my stomach so I'm not inclined to eat too much & so I'm not hungry through the day. If my stomach is stretched, I'm wanting to eat alot more thru the day & I gain weight

    • @FelixNL05
      @FelixNL05 Před 7 měsíci

      That’s exactly my life 😂

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I fast when my glucose is high. Fasting lowers it naturally. Blood glucose monitors are inexpensive.

    • @violetfem1808
      @violetfem1808 Před 5 měsíci

      @@emh8861 Wise !

  • @aalucyaf-zp5ut
    @aalucyaf-zp5ut Před 7 měsíci +47

    Fasting changed my life. I'm not going back, just switching things up to keep the body guessing and I eat according to my exercise schedule and needs. Carb cycling which I learned from the great Tom Venuto.

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 Před 7 měsíci +6

      All in balanced state. Some days you eat, other you fast, some days you lift, other days rest, some days take it easy with carbs other days 3 day fast.
      People always go into black and white thinking which is not correct. It depends on the situation and the individual of what they need.

  • @bradleystone6498
    @bradleystone6498 Před 7 měsíci +111

    The ability to change ones mind after receiving new information is the mark of a wise perdon.

    • @bigglyguy8429
      @bigglyguy8429 Před 7 měsíci +17

      It's also a sign of "influencers" desperate to be relevant, produce content and get click-bait

    • @bianco215
      @bianco215 Před 7 měsíci +12

      He's a narcissistic bully who only changes his opinion when he is finally forced to, to avoid humiliation and financial losses.

    • @nuthintoprove
      @nuthintoprove Před 7 měsíci

      How would you know? @@bianco215

    • @it5190
      @it5190 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not when you have followers that are trying to commit to lifestyle changes and they believe in what you say…

    • @JALANMAKANGERAK
      @JALANMAKANGERAK Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@bianco215you are right !!! Layne Norton is a bully ..

  • @briananderson5987
    @briananderson5987 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I love your videos thomas! im 22 and your channel has changed me and my future families health for the better, so thank you for that. I would love to see a video where you do kind of a day in the life or a full day of eating some time soon, I think a lot of people would get so much value from it. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @kimdecker8901
    @kimdecker8901 Před 6 měsíci +8

    It is such a pleasure to hear these two guys engage in an intelligent, civil, unashamedly nuanced discussion about topics that people love to get really heated, and really dogmatic, about. It gives me so much more respect--and affection--for both of them than I already had. Thank you, Thomas and Dr. Layne!

    • @user-fd6pq4uc6k
      @user-fd6pq4uc6k Před 6 měsíci +2

      Agree! There are so many opinions from different nutrition camps out there right now, but we don't often see people together having civilised debates on videos. Most of the individuals who say going vegan or going carnivore radically improved their health all switched to these lifestyles after eating the standard crap western diet. I've yet to hear of anybody switching from grass fed meat to vegan, or vice versa, and feeling better. The point is when people improve the quality of their food, there is always positive results. People should focus on ditching the crap before worrying about placing themselves into these camps at opposite ends of the spectrum! We need more people like Layne and Thomas who aren't afraid to admit when they may have been wrong. It's a pity most doctors and health professionals don't adopt this mindset, instead of spewing out something they were thought 20 years ago. Science is constantly evolving, so should they.

    • @kimdecker8901
      @kimdecker8901 Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-fd6pq4uc6k Well put!

    • @Behindthejab
      @Behindthejab Před 5 měsíci

      @@user-fd6pq4uc6kthere is a ton of bullshit based upon no data and just the desire to fleece people of money lol

    • @Lynnsl74
      @Lynnsl74 Před měsícem

      Agree!

  • @edkruzel
    @edkruzel Před 7 měsíci +158

    My great grandfather, grandfather, father and myself all had/have higher levels of LDL. I'm 60 and I have bloodwork all the way back to when I was 19 and joined the military. I've been on all the diets and the LDL range has little fluctuation. My great grandfather was extremely healthy and passed away peacefully at 96. My grandfather also worked his entire life and passed at 92. My father retired at 65, and religiously listened to his doctor. He was put on a low dose of statins, and was increased to a high level at aged 70. He had horrible side-effects, and was on the most bland diet imaginable. At 75 he had numerous health issues and at 77 he couldn't handle the pain and miserable life he had, and then took his own life. At 60, most guess I'm in my lower 40's, I can work hard all day at vigorous tasks, I hit the gym regularly and just enjoy life. If my LDL kills me a few years earlier, and I'm feeling good and enjoying life, I'll take it. It's better than stretching out a few more years in a miserable state of being.

    • @stnln2180
      @stnln2180 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Well said 👏

    • @gatesroyale
      @gatesroyale Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yapping

    • @MarkusWaas
      @MarkusWaas Před 7 měsíci +8

      There are many statins to choose from and alternatively other drugs (zetia, bempedoic acid, PCSK9 inhibitors). There's zero reason to live with high LDL these days.

    • @deaddropsd1972
      @deaddropsd1972 Před 7 měsíci

      Do you fast?

    • @sagm33
      @sagm33 Před 7 měsíci +8

      ​@@MarkusWaaswhat is your point?

  • @LncGmz
    @LncGmz Před 6 měsíci +2

    The collab I wanted to see. Thanks!

  • @dennisb7930
    @dennisb7930 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Very good interview Thomas I like these videos a lot 👍I learn things on everyone of them thank you both

  • @carolinedebeer2276
    @carolinedebeer2276 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Love that Thomas is honest and that he will change his mind if there is proper data to support. Thank you
    PS: one of the best "new format" videos TDL has made so far.

  • @EatBeefBeHealthy
    @EatBeefBeHealthy Před 7 měsíci +15

    Dave Feldman posted a 4:46 min video, today, titled "BREAKING - Match Analysis on LMHR Study Released" You'll change your mind again about high LDL.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I would rather wait for the full study analysis. That being said, these individuals are LEAN and that's incredibly protective against all cause mortality.

  • @Metalkake
    @Metalkake Před 7 měsíci

    Fantastic discussion gentlemen! Thanks for sharing!

  • @carmenross1077
    @carmenross1077 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I don’t think I will go statins,I used to take one tab statins once a day,no side effects,for years, until one day I couldn’t move my Left arms full range that I cannot brush my hair, I saw an NP in doctors office she stopped my statin , after a week of not having that I am able to have a full range of motion in my arm. That’s it for me re statin.all of them gives me side effects suddenly ,except this last one that didn’t till one day after few years of taking it.

  • @patricklachance6880
    @patricklachance6880 Před 7 měsíci +22

    This was probably recorded before the new study released by Dr Budoff where they compared high LDL LMHR keto vs low LDL Miami Heart study and found no difference in plaque accumulation after almost 5 years in 55 year olds with almost a complete match of all other health markers.

    • @judyanderson4766
      @judyanderson4766 Před 7 měsíci

      That study is now underscored by the second of a two-part study headed by amazing researcher Dave Feldman and Dr. Nick Norwitz, released just yesterday, Dec 8th '23. Their results revealed NO Atheroschlerosis (plaque) progression was found in 80 Lean Mass Hype Responders on a Keto diet. This is significant, because it is plaque, not LDL, that is by far the stronger indicator of poor cardiovascular health.
      More investigation is needed into the role of HDL and its effects on the body - but let's not forget the name of the real culprit in all of the metabolic and cardiovascular ills modern man suffers stems from the overconsumption of such things as seed oils and carbs, i.e. SUGAR.
      Saturated fats in no way causes insulin resistance. Please listen to Professor Ben Bikman,, Doctors Ken Berry, Eric Westman, Lustig, etc.
      You might change your mind again ....

    • @burby_geek
      @burby_geek Před 7 měsíci +4

      On top of that both cohorts in that study had more plaque at lower mean ldl levels. It sloped down on both cohorts as the plaque went up

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@burby_geekStatins were likely given to most of those people with high plaque in the Miami heart study. Correlation isn't causation. That's not to say I'm not hopeful the results of the full study are beneficial.

  • @kelliott7864
    @kelliott7864 Před 7 měsíci +24

    Fasting is also a valuable skill. In an emergency, we can miss a meal or 10 without losing our edge.

  • @ricodelta1
    @ricodelta1 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Never taking a statin and have zero care factor for ldl levels as long as I eat whole foods and stay away from processed foods.

    • @Behindthejab
      @Behindthejab Před 5 měsíci +2

      Layne had a genetic thing and the strain helps him.

  • @skateata1
    @skateata1 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Civil and very intelligent meeting. Ive seen layne with other youtubers and he is always calmer than he is in his videos.

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 Před 4 měsíci

      Yip he's not such a big man face to face!

  • @dicktram5305
    @dicktram5305 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Layne is a real one.. He is the one I follow with thomas for my nutritional info

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 Před 4 měsíci

      He's a real one alright 😂

    • @dicktram5305
      @dicktram5305 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Macgee826 you must be a keto or carnivore zealot.. Those groups of people dont like facts over feeling...

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 Před 4 měsíci

      @@dicktram5305 aw you got me ,I'm pecetarian that does I.f. on occasion,I just can't stand arrogance!

    • @marianking1379
      @marianking1379 Před 4 měsíci

      Mistake 😛

  • @myhealthyhabits123
    @myhealthyhabits123 Před 7 měsíci +168

    It's hysterical to me now that youtube is drowning in fasting content, everyone who once hailed it as the next coming of Christ are now moving on. Gotta keep that $ flowing, no matter what!

    • @TheToplessChef-hf5eb
      @TheToplessChef-hf5eb Před 7 měsíci +44

      I haven’t followed CZcams history. All I know is a high meat based keto diet plus intermittent fasting, plus a total of 12 days fasting( 2+2+2+3+3) took me from obese to six pack in 90 days. Now back bulking at day 110. I documented my weight loss on my channel. Plus I’m 45 and did it natty. There’s just no faster method than keto plus fasting in my opinion.

    • @myhealthyhabits123
      @myhealthyhabits123 Před 7 měsíci

      Why were all the 'experts' all in on it for so long if it's damaging?@@mikemiller5445

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 Před 7 měsíci +27

      @@mikemiller5445 sorry, but that's nonsense. Extended fasts improve all biomarkers, increase autophagy, improve cognition, and does a lot more than improve body composition. There is a litany of scientific research demonstrating it. you are not well read

    • @paulbrooks2255
      @paulbrooks2255 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@mikemiller5445you talk like someone who’d have a cat as their display picture

    • @sobered1344
      @sobered1344 Před 7 měsíci +12

      ​@BOZ_11 so starving populations should be the healthiest 😂😂 imagine ancient armies.... no no guys... we need to be depleted of all sustainance and we will crush that well fed army 😂😂 trust me

  • @briancristina2890
    @briancristina2890 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video collaboration

  • @aamiller27
    @aamiller27 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Layne is one of my favorites, as is Thomas, so this interview is the best! Love the part about LDL- very very informative!

    • @burby_geek
      @burby_geek Před 7 měsíci

      I’ve seen other slices of the Framingham day he mentioned that say the exact opposite about ldl

  • @faimohkihfaimohkih8223
    @faimohkihfaimohkih8223 Před 7 měsíci +15

    The problem with Mendelian randomization studies is that it still does not correct for the fact the majority of the population is insulin resistant, which privides a unique physiology when compared to those that aren’t. It’s is very possible, and very likely when considering the data from lean mass hyper responders, that high LDL in the absence of inulin resistance is not as atherogenic as high LDL with insulin resistance.

    • @copylondon
      @copylondon Před 7 měsíci

      This is an excellent point, and something I'd been wary of, as the Mendelian data seems to have had such an impact on the overall narrative, but as you say, it is still data collected in a vacuum. Relying so much on this has the potential to cause a lot of issues down the line.

    • @tobysrevenge7431
      @tobysrevenge7431 Před 2 měsíci

      Just admit it, you like cheese, butter, bacon and fatty beef, and you're not ready to give them up😂😂😂

    • @faimohkihfaimohkih8223
      @faimohkihfaimohkih8223 Před 2 měsíci

      @@tobysrevenge7431 who doesn’t?🙄…and why would I want to give something up that’s enjoyable, provides essential nutrition, and doesn’t cause me harm?

  • @TheShumoby
    @TheShumoby Před 7 měsíci +19

    24:00 about half the people who have a heart attack have low LDL.

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 Před 7 měsíci

      Is that good fat?

    • @captainjaber5610
      @captainjaber5610 Před 28 dny

      And it’s also proven that people who are metabolically healthy can still have heart disease from elevated LDL. Two things can be true.

  • @edricketts-ns1ru
    @edricketts-ns1ru Před 7 měsíci +6

    This is the first conversation with him I ever enjoyed. Usually he is arrogant. Seems more fact based and less angry.

    • @justinabajian1087
      @justinabajian1087 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ⁠@@oldgrunt5569he still seems arrogant. Which is sus on the health landscape that constantly changes. His LDL stance changed and could change again. Look at feldmans breaking analysis from 2 months ago, where sky high LDL keto participants showed no increased plaque burden at baseline after 5 years. Yes, it’s not a lifetime like mentioned in this video but 5 years is not insignificant for these findings. If this literature makes its way to him, he could change his mind again.

    • @thelastsigmamale
      @thelastsigmamale Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@justinabajian1087if you don’t like someone because he “seems” too arogant and you can’t appreciate the immense amount of value he brings to the world through educating people as an actual scientist with integrity, morals and knowledge (contrary to most of these uneducated influencers that just scam people by selling them some bs and spreading misinformation) then you’re just too soft

    • @spunkush
      @spunkush Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@justinabajian1087 please introduce me to the plethora of non-arrogant PHDs

    • @justinabajian1087
      @justinabajian1087 Před 4 měsíci

      @@spunkush any other credentialed doctor/scientist on CZcams. They’re all less arrogant than this guy who’s arrogant in spite of being wrong. He was probaly arrogant about the stuff he was wrong about before he changed his mind that he was wrong and remains arrogant even after being wrong.
      Again look at the study I referenced in the above comment. If that study is true, he could be wrong yet again.

  • @dantodor
    @dantodor Před 7 měsíci +8

    Maybe you should also check the brand new LMHR study.... Making blanket statements "LDL is bad" makes me wonder about the rest ...

  • @BeHealing
    @BeHealing Před 7 měsíci +30

    Every time I see Layne in an interview I think the same thing: why doesn't he put good content out like that on his own channel? Why does he just click bait yell about low level stuff when he's actually intelligent & could give us so much more as he proves over & over again in interviews? More of this Layne!

    • @charlesmuller120
      @charlesmuller120 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Totally agree with you. I enjoy Layne when he is on other youtube channels like Thomas's and Peter Attia but I don't like his vibe on his own channel. He is way too patronizing and cocky on his own channel. He seems so chills and humbling on other channels than his own.

    • @Biggiiful
      @Biggiiful Před 7 měsíci +7

      @charlesmuller120. That's because he's a coward. He always has been. He will talk sh*t from a distance, but then he always comes back down to being more reasonable and nice when face to face with people. He is not going to keep that same energy because he knows he can't without looking dumb

    • @shirohige291
      @shirohige291 Před 7 měsíci +1

      He's just a fake natty who needs roids to bench 100kg, that's why he acts like a child to most stronger guys

    • @hunter_69_69
      @hunter_69_69 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@charlesmuller120 Exactly. He's "much better at home than on the road"... in sports language. Much more of a shit-talker on his channel than face-to-face in person, which is being a coward, IMO.

    • @panagiotislepelis8177
      @panagiotislepelis8177 Před 6 měsíci +3

      He tried that at first he did videos just like this but they didnt get views. Majority of people are stupid so they like clickbait and talking in ultimatums and dogmatic manner. Its his job afterall so he will do what gets more views. I dont really like his videos but i understand why he does it.

  • @davidchung1697
    @davidchung1697 Před 6 měsíci

    A great interview.

  • @StreetTruckinTitan
    @StreetTruckinTitan Před 7 měsíci +29

    I'd rather have a higher ldl than be on a statin.

    • @billkelleher551
      @billkelleher551 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bingo.

    • @C0d0ps
      @C0d0ps Před 5 měsíci

      Same.
      Less medications is always preferred.
      Even pain killers aren’t good long term.
      I don’t use them for more than a week.

    • @cocopopsbrahhh
      @cocopopsbrahhh Před 5 měsíci

      why?

    • @StreetTruckinTitan
      @StreetTruckinTitan Před 5 měsíci

      @@cocopopsbrahhh because the treatment is worse than the disease. Plus, its not the doctors best interest to cure / make you better, only to sell you pharmacuticals.

    • @videogazer801
      @videogazer801 Před 3 měsíci

      @@cocopopsbrahhh ever he wants to die, that’s why. SMH 🤦‍♂️

  • @voyxu143
    @voyxu143 Před 7 měsíci +8

    You two would be great in a podcast format. Both of your personalities and knowledge blend well together.

  • @TheFloridaprepper
    @TheFloridaprepper Před 7 měsíci +9

    There's a long term study about to be released from one of the most respected researchers in the country that undercuts completely the high LDL concern.

    • @patricklachance6880
      @patricklachance6880 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes, in metabolically healthy individuals.

    • @billkelleher551
      @billkelleher551 Před 5 měsíci

      Maybe Layne will make another video in a little bit saying how wrong he was. What a garbage review he gave when he did his "devil's advocate" spiel on LDL. Didn't even go into any of the data, mentioned the elderly at the start of it, but then only focused on cancer cachexia, like wut? GTFOH

    • @billkelleher551
      @billkelleher551 Před 5 měsíci

      @TheFloridaprepper
      Do you have the name of the study or the authors?

  • @kirkwolak6735
    @kirkwolak6735 Před 7 měsíci +17

    Lane likes the food guidelines... Last I Checked. They rated FRUIT LOOPS better than Eggs. LMAO!

    • @tylert4271
      @tylert4271 Před 7 měsíci +3

      His PhD does not mean he has was taught the right information. Dom D'Agostino PhD shreds him in their debate. I have always looked past Layne because as u stated...he seems to take the mainstream food/medicine advice as gospel.

    • @739jep
      @739jep Před 6 měsíci +1

      He doesn’t ‘like’ the food guidelines- he just disagrees with those who blame it for the obesity crisis.

  • @christopherdennis6785
    @christopherdennis6785 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I absolutely love this dialogue. Thomas, although not formally educated, is always willing to engage in discourse because he wants to put out the latest evidence-based information for his viewers. Love Dr. Norton too.

    • @Markhypnosis1
      @Markhypnosis1 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Not formally educated? Of course he is. What you mean is.....he didn't go on to further eduction for a specific speciality. You make it sound like he never went to school.

    • @christopherdennis6785
      @christopherdennis6785 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, Yeah, I meant to say he didn’t receive an education at all..So since you know, what’s his education background so I can mean correctly? Bet you can’t tell me, I MEAN, you can’t tell me!

  • @bogdanmoisuc
    @bogdanmoisuc Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent discussion guys, also the cholesterol part was off the beaten path, but very interesting none the less. You should do these more often!

  • @ahmadmulhim8872
    @ahmadmulhim8872 Před 7 měsíci

    Great interview. Layne Norton nailed it.

  • @Dana_Swan_711
    @Dana_Swan_711 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Arterial Plaque is made of misfolded proteins not cholesterol. The plaque is a shield the artery walls create to protect itself from inflamatory attacks not from too much calsium or cholesterol. Reasearch this yourself.

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 Před 7 měsíci

      Would fasting have a good effect on this?

    • @DerekCaldwell
      @DerekCaldwell Před 6 měsíci +3

      "Reasearch this yourself." lol Because everyone has a background in medicine and has the time and because the internet is not full of misinformation. Bro we are watching this video for answers. Your comment and this video are an example of the struggle most people have sifting through info. It is not as easy as "Reasearch this yourself." We are trying bruh! lol

    • @spunkush
      @spunkush Před 4 měsíci

      ​@DerekCaldwell lmao preach

    • @tobysrevenge7431
      @tobysrevenge7431 Před 2 měsíci

      Pseudoscience buddy 😂😂😂

  • @ryanvinuya3021
    @ryanvinuya3021 Před 6 měsíci +4

    that line "I can train like that because Im fueled like that." Totally get better workouts carb fueled but also in a mind state of thinking im not losing fat because im carb filled.

    • @C0d0ps
      @C0d0ps Před 5 měsíci

      Losing fat has nothing to do with carbs.
      It’s about whether you expend the energy that you consume.
      I compete in wrestling so I require a high carb diet.
      Same with marathon runners, they usually get better times with more carbs.

    • @ryanvinuya3021
      @ryanvinuya3021 Před 5 měsíci

      @C0d0ps so if carbs are the energy that I'm eating "alot of" then is it connected to fat loss/gain?

    • @C0d0ps
      @C0d0ps Před 5 měsíci

      @@ryanvinuya3021
      Carbs are as much connected to weight loss as fats are.
      You can gain weight by eating protein but it is incredibly difficult.
      -
      This is why counting calories helps you learn how much carbs and fats you can eat at maintenance.
      -
      For me I eat between 150-300g carbs depending on when I’m competing in wrestling.
      I prefer cutting around 4kg for each tournament.
      In imperial measurements I walk around at 150-155 lbs and compete at 145 lbs.

  • @functionalaestheticse.c.8953
    @functionalaestheticse.c.8953 Před 7 měsíci +1

    With both diet and training I use periodization and macro/calorie counts as guidelines.
    Life fluctuates far too much to be rigidly locked into one diet or training system.
    They can get you pointed in the right direction and give you a goal to shoot for and a yard stick against which to measure progress.
    At the end of the day results are what count.

  • @carmenross1077
    @carmenross1077 Před 7 měsíci

    Thomas can you give your thoughts re FMD FASTING MIMICKING DIET,thanks

  • @Jimmyrey6857
    @Jimmyrey6857 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Every 6-10 months I can’t digest food as well and I start getting bloated after meals. I fast for 1-4 days and bam I can eat even more food than before the fast no problem and I end up able to put on more size and weight than pre-fast as fast as a week after the fast.

  • @poz4mecc
    @poz4mecc Před 7 měsíci +27

    Started carnivore and lost fat, hdl went from 45to67 triglycerides 115 to 70. My cholesterol went down a little total 270. Pain went away in hands and elbows. At 60 years old I feel much better.

    • @HB-zt1ed
      @HB-zt1ed Před 6 měsíci +4

      And the same would have happend with a vegan diet or if you only would eat snickers in a caloric deficit.

    • @marianking1379
      @marianking1379 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@HB-zt1ed rubbish mate , most people have tried those things , they don't work , why do we have such an obesity problem , use your brain . Veganism may be ok for maybe 5 yrs , then sicknesses start , lack of nutrients , plain and simple ., vegetarians eat eggs , maybe fish and poison greens , proof of a little protein helps a little 😂

  • @smooth235
    @smooth235 Před 7 měsíci +11

    What do you guys think about Ray Peat and saturated fat? He believes saturated fats are protective. I have been taking a high saturated fat diet and feel great

  • @anurruti
    @anurruti Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's refreshing see Layne in a gregarious mood instead of the usual Im-a-PhD-in-proteins-know-it-all.
    Kudos yo Thomas for reaching to Layne and both being able to sit and have a prodcutive respectful conversation.

  • @jjsoccer1010
    @jjsoccer1010 Před 7 měsíci

    “The concept of your mileage may vary.” Solid analogy!

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love your contents.

  • @aalucyaf-zp5ut
    @aalucyaf-zp5ut Před 7 měsíci +5

    When will you interview the great Tom Venuto? He's one of the first great natural bodybuilders that made nutrition and exercise mainstream. I owe my life to him. Also learned carb cycling from him

    • @R27035
      @R27035 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Would love to see what his new lifestyle and protocols are. My take on fitness and health is that whatever the approach is in your day and age, it can work. Tom and many others followed old school protocols such as six small meals a day with little fats, and were able to reach their goals.

    • @aalucyaf-zp5ut
      @aalucyaf-zp5ut Před 7 měsíci +1

      Those old school bodybuilders knew what works. Perhaps in terms of longevity, science has advanced more with how to optimize and definitely constant sugar spikes aren't the best. Nonetheless, Venuto keeps the basics in check. I'm trying to do fasting according to my exercise schedule and needs. Also, I cycle my carbs but stay keto because I feel better, carnivore type with some blueberries. Also doing 72hr once in a while. But it's because I'm fit now. I lost the weight through consistent 72hr fasts and longer. Easiest weight loss of my life.
      WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT TOM VENUTO IS UP TO NOW. MY RESPECTS TO THAT MAN.

  • @betseyspencer5370
    @betseyspencer5370 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Dietary guidelines changed on saturated fat also. Keep up

  • @ThatFuckinGame
    @ThatFuckinGame Před 7 měsíci +10

    I love that layne is with thomas, I believe layne its very anti "experimental" science without very solid research behind first, while thomas likes to try if the science its pointing to one direction. so its nice they have a talk

  • @vince1229
    @vince1229 Před 7 měsíci +4

    The American Heart Assn. now says that low cholesterol over 60 years is contraindicated for long life

  • @nicholas5396
    @nicholas5396 Před 7 měsíci

    Thomas and crew, thanks for getting rid of the interrogation chairs and adding the table!! Nice to watch people not be awkward and try to figure out how to sit and what to do with their arms lol.

  • @elviocosta2
    @elviocosta2 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I've seen some people stating (of course they refer to some studies) that LDL is not related to coronary artery calcification in people that eat a good diet (no junk food) with high fat content (mainly from meat). And that coronary artery calcification is a better predictor of heart disease. What are your views on that?

  • @lowcarbbully
    @lowcarbbully Před 6 měsíci +6

    Next year Layne’s video on things he was wrong about and is changing his mind about: High LDL being a problem SPECIFICALLY with low carb diets. Cholesterol not raised through dietary saturated fat on low carbers, but is raised due to being lean.

  • @TBFINEST
    @TBFINEST Před 7 měsíci +3

    how often do you fast?

  • @solraczevehc3761
    @solraczevehc3761 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Layne isn’t drinking sugar water anymore lol

  • @colleenag1
    @colleenag1 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Hey Thomas.. I’ve been falling back on your content for all things Nutrition.. been watching you since 2017 when I went keto and lost 70lbs over a year. Also corrected my Blood sugar, High BP, fatty liver and overall energy levels. But since then I’ve been increasing carbs and haven’t been able to maintain my weight (thankfully other markers are still in normal range)- major carb addict here, I’m ashamed to say.. life’s ups and downs affect my ability to eat well. All the science debunking the state of ketosis, low carb, fasting doesn’t make sense to me, coz I do well on low carb! Am I the outlier?

    • @PriusTurbo
      @PriusTurbo Před 7 měsíci +3

      Whatever works for you, stick with it. Your body will tell you what it wants. I did the Tim Ferriss slow carb diet years ago and going off of that, tracking macros and experimenting with eating different types of carbs (no junk food items) I found that the slow carb rules actually work best for me. Following new diets just for the sake of trying it is a waste of time imo. If you feel great and look great then you're doing something right.

    • @workingmanaudio2754
      @workingmanaudio2754 Před 7 měsíci +1

      What kind of carbs? Ultra processed food and grains are not the good carbs to eat. They lead to weight gain.

  • @parryfrank823
    @parryfrank823 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I would love one of you guys to discuss how the following affects the estimate of type of fat intake assigned in the various studies. I don't have the data in front of me, so these are the basics of what I recall. Beef fat is like forty percent polyunsaturated fat. Olive oil is like eight percent saturated fat. Other sources of fat are combinations of the saturated/unsaturated fat mix. When cooking the beef, higher type fat shares in hamburger are more likely to be left in the pan vs ninety percent lean. Well done meat will have less fat in what is consumed vs rare . Does cooking affect the final saturated/unsaturated fat ratio in the fat that remains? Take-away- many human studies don't track the actual number of grams of the exact types of fat that each person consumes. It would be impossible unless they were given fully analyzed meals prepared in specific procedures. Raw food would be easier to account for actual fat that is consumed. Studies should state i.e that the high saturated fat group averaged 55% of their fat intake as saturated with a sd of 11% and the high unsaturated fat group consumed 22% of fat as saturated with a sd of 8%.Since they usually don't state this, I assume that they don't know this bit of important information. So much noise the the fat measures in human studies.

  • @baymcculloch
    @baymcculloch Před 7 měsíci +2

    I feel triglycerides are more the problem than LDL. Did these trials control for trigs? If you have high (ish) levels of LDL but super low trigs I feel that a very different story than high LDL high trigs?

  • @markmoore1042
    @markmoore1042 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Why no push back, the latest studies cited about same calories for two individuals same energy expenditure and same age and health factors show eating all your calories in an eating window of say 8 hours show blood markers Improving drastically across the board and they loose substantially more fat and maintain same amount of Muscle over the Individual who eats the same amount of calories eating 6 times a day!!!
    Why no discussion?????

    • @neilgunns8391
      @neilgunns8391 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Please learn the correct way to spell lose. It’s not loose like 90% of the population thinks. Pet peeve. 😝

    • @famt2156
      @famt2156 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Exactly, no push back.

  • @tsleong1
    @tsleong1 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I found the saturated fat and cholesterol stuff a bit confusing and all over the place.

  • @tannerwolfe3802
    @tannerwolfe3802 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Love your variety of guests 🙏 you even made Layne seem likeable

    •  Před 7 měsíci +1

      great description, ecactly 👉 you even made Layne seem likeable 😄

  • @vee4410
    @vee4410 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I hope prof Kay can review this video😂😂

  • @KatharineLikesCake
    @KatharineLikesCake Před 7 měsíci +2

    Layne has changed my view on health and nutrition completely. He's channel is amazing, and entertaining :)

  • @reynmike
    @reynmike Před 5 měsíci

    About LDL, is there a Mendelian randomization among LMHR?

  • @YamatoForever
    @YamatoForever Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love Layne. This is a must watch for me.

  • @ayoubboutebal1549
    @ayoubboutebal1549 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I feel that the title in the video image is somewhat misleading and kinda dishonest.
    Layne Norton, in my opinion, is one of the most honest, competent, and insightful individuals who debunk a lot of misinformation online.

  • @shamegames5290
    @shamegames5290 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I don't fast for any of the reasons he suggests. I fast 16 hours every day because I want my body to metabolically shift from burning my glucose stores to burning my fat stores. I also do it to reduce inflammation throughout the body and most importantly in the brain. I fast because it makes me feel great and I seem to have much cleaner and long lasting energy. I also never feel hungry, and I'm not strict about caloric intake at all. I'm only strict on my 8 hour eating window. I've discovered that working out in a fasted state feels much better for me, but the downfall is that I cannot immediately follow my workout with protein because of the calories that come with it. So for that reason I supplement with perfect aminos.

  • @user-do1sr9wg1w
    @user-do1sr9wg1w Před 6 měsíci +1

    One thing that's rarely brought up is the variation in metabolism and physical activity among people and also the population data that the studies rely on. For myself i work in construction and do cardio and strength nearly every day on top of that. Missing a meal and i'm basically out. I eat calorie dense food every 3 hours. But an overweight person with a desk job and low activity would probably do great with fasting.

  • @JackOfHearts42
    @JackOfHearts42 Před 7 měsíci

    Regarding what was said on fasting, I'm defnitiy someone who likes to lift or run on an empty stumach, but that is only 2-4 hours after a meal not 12-16 hours.

  • @getfiteatmeat
    @getfiteatmeat Před 7 měsíci +3

    Check into prothrombin, fibrinogen, viscous blood theories in people who have strokes and heart attacks. David Feldman, Ben Bickman..

  • @susanfitch8698
    @susanfitch8698 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Ong this guy w the statins 😂 so surprised you had him on your show

  • @sobered1344
    @sobered1344 Před 7 měsíci +9

    This guy needs to debate Dr. Chaffe, Dr. Baker, Dr Saladino.

    • @brandonyoung4910
      @brandonyoung4910 Před 7 měsíci +1

      No point in debating extremists.

    • @brandonyoung4910
      @brandonyoung4910 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Jay37_technah man chaffee got wrecked by a vegan doctor recently lol

  • @Chris90.
    @Chris90. Před 6 měsíci

    hell yeah Layne!

  • @fernandavasconcelos2910
    @fernandavasconcelos2910 Před 7 měsíci

    I loved the video, but I think we always focus too much on lean muscle mass and fat loss. I would love to see a video on how to maximise the other benefits of exercise, like increase bdnf

  • @segapena5033
    @segapena5033 Před 5 měsíci

    I've always heard "cardio makes hungry and crave more food". Even my PCP told me this a few months ago. I'm experiencing the opposite effect. After running 4-6 miles and especially when i go the full 6 miles, I drink so much water right after that I feel bloated. Add to that the sort of general physical exhaustion running causes it completely kills my appetite where I have to force myself to eat sometimes well into the next day. The first early meal the next day can make me feel full for 8-10 hrs and I have to force myself to eat.

  • @Mike_Thompson
    @Mike_Thompson Před 7 měsíci +1

    "apo B and LDL-C go together, you can't really disconnect them"... I would argue that in some cases they are disconnected. This situation is called a discordance.

  • @leannegray9953
    @leannegray9953 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Firstly, thank you both for admitting that your opinion changes because our opinion of science can only be correct based off the information currently available to us, and even then what we think we may know could be completely incorrect! (though hopefully not!)
    Secondly, Layne Norton, you say that when you exercise your BMR goes down, just to clarify, do you mean predominant fat loss exercise such as cardio?
    Because if you exercise by way of weight training and build muscle then of course your BMR goes up, obviously important to say to viewers that eveeeeeennnn if there's an ever so slight BMR reduction by way of the exercise induced calorie loss, such as by way of weight training, the increase in BMR from the built muscle will exceed any loss from exercise induced calorie loss - hence people who focus on weight training and build a lot of muscle can eat far higher calories than people who don't:) It's obviously important to clarify this for viewers who may wrongly believe that any and all exercise will reduce BMR and become fearful to exercise as I can imagine that will become a thing!

  • @dirtyrabbit
    @dirtyrabbit Před 7 měsíci

    I'm not surprised thomas chose to have a table in between for this interview lol

  • @teuteu13
    @teuteu13 Před 7 měsíci

    You can experiment on me I am doing sport after 14 hours fasting and don’t eat until the next 6 hours. It means total 20hours without any water and food…then I have 1 hour window to drink my homemade juice with an entire lemon 100g with kale 50g and ginger 15g all of it with one liter of water. Then the rest 3 hours i have a clean keto meal and i build muscle according my MBI

  • @logical_lb3059
    @logical_lb3059 Před 2 měsíci

    17:55 it’s not about whether ldl is oxidized or not, it’s about whether endothelial lining is smooth or not. Unoxidized ldl does not penetrate smooth endothelial lining

  • @derekconn9950
    @derekconn9950 Před 3 měsíci

    What is the mechanism that ldl is supposed to just stick into the endothelial. No one ever says because that’s not the cause. Damage to the endothelium results in the ldl sticking there, if it was the ldl itself that caused it and stuck into endothelial walls then it would happen in the veins

  • @verrasimonsimon7876
    @verrasimonsimon7876 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is funny and we actually listen to these people

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 Před 7 měsíci

      The ministry of truth putting out disinformation probably the world homicidal organisation

  • @TheShumoby
    @TheShumoby Před 7 měsíci +2

    As a LMHR, all I have to do is increase carbs, but I feel like crap on that diet. Everyone in my family live long (90s-106). I wouldn't mind living less years than them and feel great the whole time. 😅

    • @TheTattleTaleStrangler
      @TheTattleTaleStrangler Před 7 měsíci

      Anything that makes you feel bad is hurting your life expectancy. If eating broccoli makes you feel bloated, then broccoli isn't healthy for you.

    • @deaddropsd1972
      @deaddropsd1972 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lean Mass Hyper-responders (LMHRs)

  • @johnsavage4786
    @johnsavage4786 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Sorry guys you need to listen to Dr Anthony Chaffee and Bart Kay

  • @johnnyblackrants7625
    @johnnyblackrants7625 Před 4 měsíci +2

    If LDL is causative, why don’t statins noticeably reduce mortality?

  • @umayersany2114
    @umayersany2114 Před 7 měsíci

    May peace be upon you.Is organic refined coconut oil healthy??Is refined coconut oil healthy?
    I heard that deep frying food produces carcinogenic material in our food.i wanted to know is frying with refined coconut oil harmful for our health or not?
    Does refined coconut oil have any health benefit or buying refined coconut oil is a wastage of time and money??

  • @sitioshermosos7413
    @sitioshermosos7413 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Good

  • @getfiteatmeat
    @getfiteatmeat Před 7 měsíci +4

    Well, there is new info about cholesterol out there. Check out Dave Feldman👍🏽🥩

  • @vtg1632
    @vtg1632 Před 7 měsíci

    In regards to layne's request for a study during the fasting section: ITS RIGHT ACROSS FROM YOU

  • @jaybirdspirit2468
    @jaybirdspirit2468 Před 7 měsíci

    really into this interview! I do wellness screenings and this info is very value!!

  • @Dani-jo9yr
    @Dani-jo9yr Před 7 měsíci +12

    Long way to go still Layne😅

  • @matthewbradysmith
    @matthewbradysmith Před 7 měsíci +2

    This guy also says organic produce is the same as glyphosate GMO, let that sink in.
    I saw an Instagram post of his about this topic and left a comment, he defended his post. SMH

  • @richtbiskit9196
    @richtbiskit9196 Před 7 měsíci

    Two of my favourite guys right here. Thats a lot of knowledge in one room. This is awsome

  • @kurthanson7522
    @kurthanson7522 Před 7 měsíci +2

    when did mendelian randomization become the new abracadabra?

  • @CK51515
    @CK51515 Před 7 měsíci

    Who has better arms?

  • @cyndimanka
    @cyndimanka Před 7 měsíci +9

    Lame Norton? Ya there’s someone I want to listen to. Debunked by your friend Bart Kay numerous times. When you’re wrong, you’re wrong and you will be called out.

  • @fantasticallyfit6030
    @fantasticallyfit6030 Před 7 měsíci +2

    LMHR the data is interesting

  • @carsonkrueger3661
    @carsonkrueger3661 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Totally agree on the periodization part. Used to always think I had to hit the exact target volume, intensity, exercises and dates that I had planned. Now I change things up based on feel. Like if I train legs hard and am still sore 4 days later I throw in an extra rest day and maybe cut back on volume a bit next time. Or if I am barely sore the next day I will move up a day and add extra volume. Or if I start my workout and just don't feel great I don't push super high on weights.

  • @FunfamilyB
    @FunfamilyB Před 5 měsíci

    I literally feel sick when I do not take BCAAs and am more sore. It may be mental

  • @garzascreek
    @garzascreek Před 2 měsíci

    23:28 - He is on ezetimibe with his pravastatin. Ezetimibe is an intestinal dietary cholesterol absorption blocker. Later he says that he does not worry about dietary cholesterol. Doesn't make sense to take Ezetimibe if he does not actually worry about dietary cholesterol. 27:58

  • @cyndimanka
    @cyndimanka Před 7 měsíci

    That’s pretty funny caloric restriction. So you’re taking away the heat?