Moist Meter | The Batman
Vložit
- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- The Batman (2022 Action / Crime / Drama Movie), starring Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz and directed by Matt Reeves as reviewed by Charlie and Jackson.
The Moist Meter is an experimental measurement system that you can use to safely gauge just how moist a video game or movie is going to be before playing it or viewing it. Avoid the dry products and only use the wettest.
Moist Meter Scientists:
Jackson: / zealotonpc
Charlie: / moistcr1tikal
Contact: admin@theofficialfour.com
Intro Voice: goo.gl/y5YRWY - Zábava
I like how miserable Batman seems. Because in reality, there’s no way anyone could pull off that lifestyle without serious drawbacks. Nocturnal, extremely small amounts of sleep, getting physically battered constantly, dealing with the most miserable scum of the earth people every day, etc. There’s no way someone could do all this and then go be some overly charismatic playboy at a party.
Well you do hear someone mention how Bruce is also has been secluded from everyone for a while he doesn't go out. I feel like the elite in this movie are all sort of guarded off from society and it showed it well
Actually there is, it'd be much easier for him if he was a psycopath or sociopath lmao
You obviously never sold drugs.... ehh... buddy.
You dont know what charisma, drugs and women can do to a mans ego.
@@chasejordan9295 He is in a manic state in the movie I feel like that's what the detective scene in his tower where he spray paints each section of the investigation was supposed to portray that he was losing it
Sounds like corrections night shift rikers island lmao
The mistakes Batman makes showcase how he is developing. The missed steps with the Riddler, the crashes in the highway scene. He essentially loses in this film. Its amazing. Loved the film.
While technically he does lose, he gives Gotham hope, saving it in the long run.
lost the battle, won the war.
@@lukelewis5424 except it never really acknowledges al the people he killed in the car chase scene…at all. We never see Batman deal with it morally, or even acknowledge it. It doesn’t feel purposeful on the writers end, it’s like they genuinely didn’t care or think about how many people Batman killed…at least with Affleck’s Batman it was purposeful
I enjoyed this aspect of the film too. At the start I was wondering why he was getting hit by the clowns in the beginning but I remembered he's still new to this. It shows how early on in his career this film was.
@@sasukesbussy7101 I think batman just see's it as Oswald killed them not him
I love that there was no disconnect from Batman and Bruce. It shows how obssessed he's become with his project
Yeah, like recent batman movies I felt I was watching Bruce Wayne as batman.
This movie felt like it was about Batman, who sometimes wore a Bruce Wayne disguise (and wore it poorly)
@@PandaCake978 spitting
I mean realistically there shouldn't be. I personally thought that the lack of disconnect is what made this movie great and emphasized pattinsons performance. He was able to convey the same emotion with a mask as he was without costume. To be able to see that made his performance far more convincing. In this movie it felt like as if batman was part of bruce wayne, not a facade, and that made it a lot better.
That's the point, he's new to it, hasn't fully developed into his Batman and Bruce Wayne persona, he's new to everything
He’s still a young Batman finding his way
Honestly the fact he isn’t so different as Bruce Wayne makes the other batmen seem like sociopaths. Like how could anyone separate their lives like that?
Everyone in this movie felt believable like that to me including the riddler.
That's what I was thinking! Like this bruce is so much more believable to me than any other live action bruce I've seen.
i mean batman is already a nut job, but now he needs to learn how to separate his lives, because as much as he wants to keep on being the batman, he has to realize that bruce wayne is a necessity just as much as batman. which this movie does a great job at showing the effects of. really makes him seem like a young and naive batman
secret identity?
Yeah believable and realistic but I feel like that's the point of Batman's character. A charismatic billionaire at day and a dark vengeful character at night. It's a nice contrast to his character which makes batman in the comics and other live action shows more interesting and mysterious. I mean he is more than a sociopath since he dresses as a bat and beats the crap out of people.
The ending when he realized he HAS to be BOTH Bruce Wayne and Batman to save Gotham... that was so cathartic for me.
You can't save anyone just with violence and vengeance. You also need hope and optimism to counter how depressing Gotham is.
You need to be both the light and the dark for their people (good and bad).
so basically batman stops fighting crime to open up a charity for the city
No? he can do both lol.@@Yeet-bn6mr
Yeah - This film was really great, such amazing cinematography/story/pacing/batman interpretation. Will watch again soon. the narration arc with 'something in the way' playing was truly amazing, some extremely memorable cinematic moments. And in the first narration, seeing the bat-cave and the new technology and his journaling afterwards - I loved the obsessiveness of this batman to his work/craft to the point where it is almost always on his mind.
We also really saw his intellect / detective ability in this film.
And In the ending monologue on hope, during that beautiful almost religious sunset scene - that naration greatly reminded me of the dark knight trilogy. In the beginning of the film he is driven by vengeance, in the end he strives to represent hope.
Basically character development 🤌
Yeah, and that’s literally shown with him holding the light and guiding people
i personally love the fact that bruce wayne doesn’t put up a facade. it just gives him a whole other creepier vibe. like he is unable to separate himself from his vigilante persona and it’s messing with his head. the riddler even says that at the end when they’re talking about how the whole city wants to unmask him but that mask is the “real him”
Yes! Thats the point of his character, its the opposite of all other batman movies.Batman has to become bruce again this time and not the otherway around
yeah its clearly a choice by the filmmakers that they dont have him have the bruce wayne facade yet
Yes but I love when he goes from Bruce to Batman mode like laughing one second and then turning around straight face ready for business
Yeah, I think people are forgetting too that this is year 1 Batman so he wouldn't of mastered the whole Bruce Wayne facade at the point in time of the film, that's why I think anyway that they seem one in the same in this film, Bruce Wayne is ultimately the mask not vice versa so would take longer for him to develop the facade.
Yeah same. He played the role as someone with a deep case of PTSD, and that adds a sense of realism leading you to not even question that it's a guy dressing up as a bat.
I honestly loved the riddler. He was unique and the casting was PERFECT. I haven't seen anything else that the actor has done but he played the riddler so well. The Redditor look about him but being scarily smart. All the different steps he took to throw batman off while leading him to the trail that HE wants batman to take is awesome.
YES! my toxic trait is how irrationally i am attracted to the Riddler 💔💔
I saw the riddler as a very unhinged Michael Reeves. In a good way.
Paul Dano’s character arc is INSANE. from being in The Girl Next Door, Little Miss Sunshine, Ruby Sparks, The Prisoner, Swiss Army Man, to being in The Batman
Paul Dano’s character arc is INSANE. from being in The Girl Next Door, Little Miss Sunshine, Ruby Sparks, The Prisoner, Swiss Army Man, to being in The Batman
He is a Qanom lunatic, except he is waay smarter🤣, still a looser though
As a hardcore car nerd, the scene with the Batmobile was electrifying and astounding. The audio from the twin turbo V8 mixed in with the jet engine alone, was better than anything the DCEU has produced.
The intimidation factor that everyone acknowledged was * chef's kiss.
What I wouldn’t give to drive a car like that
the whole start up and chase scene is my favorite
that shit was ABSOLUTELY beautiful
The sound of the revving jet engine was absolutely horrifying
The best part of Pattison's performance was the look in his eyes. Eerie, haunting, tired, and intense
I loved his voice too, thought he played an excellent Batman.
He genuinely looked like a deeply disturbed person. Honestly probably my favourite Batman performance.
Unpopular opinion: It is a thousand times better than Bale. I never liked bales batman and even he admitted he could of done a better job. Hated the voice. I know its iconic and its a part of pop culture but I could never take it seriously. Nolan films are still top tier but not for batman.
@@nexushockeyHD i fuckin hated his voice
@@Takashii85 One thing about Bale though that you can't deny: He was the perfect candidate for the playboy persona of Bruce. It gave me American Psycho vibes and in a good way. It felt like he was really putting on a façade.
I think people who are saying “Robert Pattinson’s Batman wasn’t a good Bruce Wayne” are missing the point of character development, which is one of the strong points of this movie.
In this version of events, Pattinson is a young Bruce Wayne who’s bitterness towards his parents’ death and the state of Gotham has led him to become reclusive and antisocial. His motivation to be Batman is purely self-serving. Everyone is scared shitless of Batman, including innocents. Meanwhile, while he’s ignoring his parent’s financial and political empire, the mob and corrupt officials have swooped in to fill the power vacuum. He learns this fact the hard way throughout the whole plot. By the end of the movie, he learns that he must become more than “vengeance” if he wants to fix Gotham. He has to become the hero. The whole ending scenes of him leading people to safety rather than just beating the shit out of bad guys is symbolic of this transition.
another thing a lot of people have forget to mention is that in this reiteration of the story , this batman grew up without closure for his parents and knowing who did that to them. i think this plays a huge part into why he’s such a darker batman since he never received that closure at such a young age
I think the people defending this iteration of Bruce Wayne are missing the point. Why does he ignore his parents' financial legacy and only pursue vigilante justice? This isn't really explained. Did Alfred really only teach him to fight? In all other Batman stories, Bruce Wayne is a billionaire philanthropist who does everything he can with the Wayne name to better the city. The point of his vigilantism and how he justifies that to himself, is that despite all that it's never enough. Even the most powerful man in Gotham can't stop organized crime lawfully when the systems are so corrupt, and this movie fails to illustrate Bruce's philanthropic and good-natured character in lieu of this new vision of a nihilistic and vengeful crusader. That's why people say he's not a good Bruce Wayne.
@@drewb1979 but in most comics batman and bruce wayne are the same the facade you think there is is from other batman movies but in the source material especially in the last 30 years or so alot of the time batman can barely distinguish himself from bruce wayne because bruce wayne isnt real to him he is just batman
I guess you didnt see batman begins, Pattinson had no character same guy as batman or bruce wayne.
If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
"my first complaint is, there's no disconnect between Batman and Bruce Wayne." lmao that was the point. 😭
Something can be intentional and still be criticised
how was that the point?
@@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 cus at the end batman is shown THAT HE HAS TO BE BOTH BRUCE WAYNE AND BATMAN TO BE A BEACON OF HOPE TO GOTHAM. pretty cathartic if u ask me
@@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 the film also shows that bruce is fucking obssessed with being batman, its almost like bruce is the mask and batman is his real self
@@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 battison thought he only needs fear, that bruce wayne happy attitude isnt necessary, until the last moment where he realized he needs more than fear to save gotham
Casting Paul Dano as The Riddler is the best thing they’ve done.
That part in the church when he completely loses out of nowhere when the guy strapped with a bomb interrupts him, it's honestly one of my favorite parts of the movie.
@@adrielklein189 hi just wanna say that your pfp is insane I love it
@@supersucks Thank you!
the whole casting was perfect from batman to the riddler, falcone, the penguin and catwoman
even the joker looks incredible in that deleted scene
Paul dano is great but colin Farrell stole it for me
About the Batman not realising the damage he's causing to the people of Gotham part. .. Isn't that kinda the whole point of the movie though? One of the main points of the movie is that Batman's methods are heavily flawed, he wants to clean the city of corruption and crime but he's going the wrong way about it. He's only doing it through fear and vengeance. To the people of Gotham, they don't know or care about his intentions, he's just more of the same shit to them. You see it from the reaction of the asian guy at the start ("Please don't hurt me") from people calling him a freak, from The Riddler thinking he's on his side, to the Riddler's goon saying he's also 'Vengeance'. He realises in the end there's not much difference between him and The Riddler, both have pretty good intentions and motivations but both are going about it n the wrong way. When he sees the Riddler's followers, he thinks who would the Batman's followers be? Would they be like these nutjobs? Is he a nutjob? Who is The Batman anyway. Then you see him literally being followed by civilians as he is helping them escape and he realises this is who the Batman should be, someone people can rely on, when all hope is gone. Batman was very close to becoming a Villain, just like the Riddler, it was kinda the whole point
This needs way more likes
This!
100%
also Batman mask has similarities with riddler
Best intepretation of this movie
The way they were all scared of the bat signs was so badass
I get goosebumps just thinking about it
@@alexsilva28 BatChest
where he says they think im hiding in the shadows but i am the shadows was soo colddd
It's the first time they've portrayed Batman as fear itself rather than the embodiment of fear. I just wish this element occurred more in the movie, its a perfect way to showcase Batman as a legitimate fearful entity than a heroic Avengers-type shit superhero.
Yooo If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
1. The fact that there's no distinction between Bruce Wayne & Batman is probably intentional, the life of Batman has completely consumed him and he's the most reclusive man in the city - pretty much ignoring the issues of Wayne Enterprises.
2. The main theme/point of this movie is that everything he does is for vengeance, saving lives while still incredibly important to him is secondary. It's only through the final act does he realize that vengeance is only making things worse, and so his main priority becomes the saving of lives & giving hope. This is seen immediately in the following scenes.
I think the best part of the whole film was how Batman was almost an anti-hero. He was more focused on making the criminals of Gotham fear him rather than the people of Gotham feel like he’s a hero and protector. It’s even subtlety hinted at people calling him vengeance, rather than justice. A great example of this is the opening scene where the graffiti artist is shitting himself over the bat signal. He knows that if Batman showed up he’d get his eyes pushed through the back of his skull over a minor crime like vandalism. That’s not justice that’s borderline terrorism and it really showcases what this Batman is about.
To be fair, it wasn't just graffiti. They broke into, robbed, and torched a bank before stopping to tag it before they left
This! and how at first you almost couldn’t tell who it was that was lurking in the shadows and preparing to attack, if it was batman or riddler. especially at the beginning the fight scenes were shot in almost like a horror film angle, where it felt like we were witnessing the criminals as the victims and batman as the monster/predator
This feels like everything dc movies have been trying to achieve and I think it's the perfect direction for the dc cinematic universe. A well executed gritty superhero movie is such a breath of fresh air in an age of joss whedon style shitshows.
That's Batman's arc in the film: People fear him, including criminals, and at the end, he realizes that he has to be more than a symbol of fear to criminals; he has to be a hero to the people of Gotham.
Pattinson actually talked about that lack of disconnect between Batman and Bruce Wayne in an interview as something he and the director were interested in exploring as another aspect of a Batman in the midst of his "year 2". He's still at the point of his obsession with his mission that he hasn't even bothered to cultivate the facade day-time personality of Bruce Wayne at all, he's just Batman 24/7 with or without the mask. This is a Batman who hasn't found his balance (as far as someone like Bruce can achieve) with what he symbolizes, both to others and in his own mind. He's just an angry young man with a lot of money and training venting years of pent up aggression and trauma at every justifiable target he can find, he doesn't care yet about keeping up appearances.
edit: I fixed the name, it was late lol
Right and this does a great job of exploring the connection or separation of Batman and criminals. His first approach inspired criminals as much as the common person so he changes how the Batman operates. But that’s a great explanation of how Year 1-2 BatMan doesn’t ever really take off the mask even as Bruce. He doesn’t care.
Patterson💀
I just here batman saying pitter patter over and over again😂😂😂 also I agree. I think over time he’ll learn he needs to balance both sides of his life.
Why doesn’t Charlie get that tho? Seems to be a reoccurring theme with these reviews….
@@stevenpina1983 well he is part of the general audience yk, i don’t think he understands batman completely
@@bats777 maybe so, I’ll give him a pass this time, lol
The cinematography in that movie is ridiculously good. That upside down shot of Batman walking up to Penguin’s car was insane. The elevator fight sequence when lights start going on and off too. Movie of the year so far.
Him looking down at the end of that shot was goofy, but I don't think it was all that retarded. Badasses toy with their prey ALL THE TIME, why is it a problem when Batman does it? That shot was pure awesome.
@@mcdieunphilidor747 Lol I I agree with that. Couldn't help but think it was a bit goofy when he got down and looked into the car
it lasted a bit TOO long. my bf was laughing his ass off in the theatre😭
@scott_41 I thought it was fuckin hilarious.
there... wasnt an elevator fight sequence..
is it wrong for me to not want joker again? I really would like to see Mr.Freeze get a (good) live action movie
^this. *chefs kiss*
But with the corruption angle I feel like he may be building to the Court of Owls
I think it was hinting at the fact that maybe penguin might get his arc soon. Since he was really fucked with in this movie. It makes more sense to me why he would hold the most resent
I want to see black mask
I would love to see a Scarface or Poison Ivy or Mr Freeze or anything except Joker
We're definitely getting Freeze next. Gotham is going to be rebuilding. Yet another corruption story (like Court of Owls, no offense Seal) would be a hat on a hat. It would feel very unnecessary. We need a villain with personal stakes that don't involve Batman or Bruce much at all. So Freeze would be perfect for that. Joker, even if we excuse every other interpretation, is just not the right villain for the sequel. His stakes are entirely tied to Batman. He's a villain that you bring in once the city really trusts Batman like they did in The Dark Knight. I feel that the sequel is going to pick up just a few months after The Batman with the sea wall having just been rebuilt and people will be returning. If Joker comes in at that moment, well, he wins. A beaten down Gotham can't handle the Joker.
I like that they show the Riddler isn't physically imposing, and he looks like a wimp, but quite the psycho underneath!
he looks and acts like Michael Reeves, is it just me lol?
@@edmund8954 Michael reeves is riddler holy shit
Agreed, they did Riddler justice in this movie. It would have been so easy to settle on a joker villain because everyone wants to see that done well, whereas the Riddler is a harder sell. How do you make the Riddler menacing and a worthy adversary to Batman? We have a good attempt here. Push Batman's detective skills to the limit, keep the pressure on, and make it personal.
When they revealed his face, my immediate response was, “Oh my god he’s a nerd!”
Probably the most menacing nerd ever
I could not have said it better myself.
Pattinson's Bruce Wayne was actually perfect for the timeline in my opinion. He's still young at this point and hasn't fully accepted the death of his parents, so it's likely he would be more dark and depressing.
He never did accept his parent's death
@@lifer7741 Yep, he was just naturally a straight mans man who was still able to compose himself in public and look like a classy rich version of Clark Kent without having the 'look at me and my depressing sadness' face all the time.
@@Magneticitist and might I remind you this isn’t a carbon copy of the comics my guy. Another bad take by you.
I think if a robin comes in during the next movie that would be the perfect opportunity to actually bring some light into this Bruce's life. Maybe he'll actually be able to smile lol
exactly. to copy my comment elsewhere on this video: the thing you have to consider about his Bruce Wayne being just like Batman is that Bruce IS the mask. Batman is his true self. At this point in the story he's only been working as a vigilante for 2 years...he hasn't mastered Batman yet let alone been able to give enough effort into selling his Bruce Wayne persona.
I adore so many aspects of this movie. I love how literal everything was. Batman uses a flight-suit instead of some magic cape. The batmobile is an armored muscle car with a jet engine strapped to the back. I love the cinematography and I love the music. It was a bit long, but I loved every minute of it.
The penguin make-up. Thought this penguinz0 might mention it
Honestly though, the pacing was so good that I barely noticed how long it went unlike something like endgame
@@antennahead4978 I said that too. It doesn’t feel like a near 3 hour movie. I only missed around two minutes of the movie to head to the bathroom, but even with that I felt like the pacing went well.
@@antennahead4978 I feel opposite I loved Endgame I went to see on my junior trip and enjoyed most of it I couldn’t get into Batman however
@@Haunttts i enjoyed it too but on my second viewing the first third dragged on and I was just begging for it to get to the time travel. Ive only seen the batman once so far but every scene is useful and moves the mystery and plot along.
The reason why Robert's Bruce Wayne was very depressed in this movie was because he's still trying to find himself and is still empty. Keep in mind this is a year 2 batman, so bruce hasn't fully found himself yet, hence to why he makes mistakes as batman. Robert's version of bruce also shows how committed he is towards batman therefore, he loses himself in the process of becoming batman. I believe it'll be interesting on how Matt Reeves develops Rob's bruce wayne since he hasn't developed his bruce wayne persona yet.
this^^
@@kp1x good point lol.
Its just going to be weird if he becomes some billionaire playboy all of a sudden the next movie. If he hasn't found the bruce identity by now around age 30. You mean to tell me that will become his personality by next movie? I don't see the point of not having seperation unless your going to make it interesting. Because having the seperation is actually interesting.
@@gamblertoguru382 I am hoping that the 2nd movie will focus on Bruce's struggles to separate his Batman Persona from the Bruce Wayne persona. The first film was him realizing that fear alone was not enough to change the city, even though it was the one thing he relied on, he had to slowly accept it was not the solution and Batman had to represent BOTH fear and hope to pull Gotham out of the darkness. I'm willing to bet the 2nd movie is him trying to find his footing in balancing the two sides of his life without letting one consume the other, and hopefully the villains chosen for that film will test Bruce's ability to keep his 2 lives separate, and deal with the parts that cannot be truly separated.
I think the 3 hours is perfect i thought it was gonna be too long but they didnt rush it and they didnt go to slow they made it just right a great batman movie
I felt it was way too long in my opinion. Could have ended it when the riddler got captured
@@polaroidandroidjeff6383 It would have made no sense for him to just give himself up though. Thats arguably an even worse ending.
This was by far the worst batman movie i’ve seen it dragged for so long the fight scenes were weak af robert pattinson looks great in the batsuit because he has the jawline for it but when he’s regular bruce wayne he just looks like a Depressed emo Edward Cullen
@@xxxilluminate5754 but how would u feel with ur parents dead and then finding out everything and everything going wrong because of u even tho all ur trying to do is help
@@xxxilluminate5754 you literally described how Batman is supposed to act. Depressed and emo. Imo this might be the best batman movie I've seen. Much better than Affleck's batman. At least Bale's batman can compete.
Personally I liked how they added the aspect that Bruce Wayne was still Batman even outside of the suit. As this is a Batman that’s fairly new it’s good to see that it takes time for him to fully acknowledge and adapt to his duties
Exactly that’s what’s so annoying when people are saying that his Bruce Wayne isn’t different to batman they don’t understand
I liked this take on Bruce too. He’s more of a recluse/antisocial and it worked for me. It makes sense that he could end up that way for his character. The only thing with it for me is that it seems much more clear that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
Mean I think it nice he not Chad thunder cock yet cause he still dosent understand people like joker or riddler who could find out who he is by how he acts but by acting as Chad thunder cock he's the exact opposite of batman so no one would suspect him
If fine with both Batman and Bruce Wayne being edgy, I mean I wouldn't be able to pretend I'm happy when my parents were killed a few years ago
@Sidharth Rao Exactly that’s what I think they’ll do. It seems he is now going to be ready to accept the responsibilities of Bruce Wayne and take Alfred’s advice.
I loved that while at the beginning he’s terrifying even to the people he’s saving, at the end he becomes someone to look up to, someone to rally around and follow to safety.
Very nice detail
It was so satisfying and inspiring. Makes me excited for future projects.
I love how they made batman scary like he's supposed to
@Brian Babin I mean let's be honest tho if you were in a dark alley and then you walk upon a couple of thugs getting beat the shit outta them by batman, you'd turn around and head in the opposite direction immediately.
I love the cinematography of Batman carrying the flare and being followed by Gotham
I can't blame Batman for instantly falling for Zoe Kravitz in that movie.
Oh my god dude.
her face is chiseled by the gods
Fr bro me and my gf both were like "hot damn she's a bad bitch"
Standards are so low nowadays lmao
@@21Handguns can’t even lie tho,Zoe kravitz looked so good in the movie😭
I think Bruce Wayne being so emo and edgy is the point here. He's not a hero this city deserves yet, he's vengeance. He doesn't yet realize that being positive as such an influential figure can change the hearts of people.
I love how everyone in the movie doesn’t call him Batman in “The Batman”. Because he’s not the Batman, that’s the reason they call him vengeance, he’s not Batman yet; he’s in his anger stage. Nice detail by the writer
And the Riddler be like: “To The Batman”
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar nah we good
@@somegeekguy that’s because he’s as crazy as him.
Lol he gets called bat boy
The riddler calls him Batman through out the film...did you forget the cards that say 'TO THE BATMAN"?
Batman realizing he's more effective as a hopeful figure for the people than a vengeful scruge of the night for criminals has always been my favorite arc for the character so it's nice to see that in a movie
Yeah I think in the next one he'll probably become more of that hopeful super hero figure
Basically Nolan's Batman eh??
@@harukrentz435 we forgetting "I killed those people--I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be." eh?? He was a symbol for sure but literally only the people around him saw him as anything other than something to fear.
I loved the riddles, they and their punishments were Jigsaw-like and when riddler was in the scene, it instantly got serious and everyone went quiet.
Well, he's only been Batman for two years during the timeline of this movie. I'd say that he's still too young to realize that he needs to put on a facade as Bruce Wayne. Definitely one of my favorite Batman movies though. They did an extremely good job on showing his detective work. We've barely seen that side of him in previous movies.
I loved the way he's not some magical entity, he doesn't just appear soundlessly behind people.
You hear his boots, he makes mistakes, he gets punched and kicked blown up, he pulls his parachute to early and goes bouncing down the street.
Also he doesn't just have endless supertech that he pulls out of his ass.
I believe the boots are an intimidation tactic. He can be stealthy if he wants to, but the boots are for the added intimidation effect.
Honestly, thats why i didnt like this batman as much. I love stoic, angry, unapolagetic and ruthless batman who is a cold-blooded, god-like hero.
@@ethanhutchison3180 haha I think that's the reason I never really enjoyed the Dark knight batman.
I like when characters are grounded by the set rules of the world.
@@ethanhutchison3180 also his suit looks better
@Ethan Hutchison I think that’s what they’re going to make him later on in the trilogy. This is only his first movie and the development from this into what you’re looking for will make for a more satisfying arc in the long run.
The best thing about this movie aside from the Riddler, they prefectly portray Bruce in his earlier years as the Batman. The inexperienced emo young adult who actively only seek for vengeance, he also learnt by the end of the movie that vengeance will only inspire the wrong people (in this case Riddler) and instead doing it for the hope of the people of Gotham.
I can guarantee Bruce will know when to act as an edgy emo Batman, and when to act as a rich playboy philanthropist billionaire, if there's a sequel that is.
I believe 2 sequels already confirmed
@@nickladue9609 2?
@@evandelck8541 I believe so, a trilogy
@@evandelck8541 yeah plus there’s at least two new shows starting on HBO
Gotham PD and Oswald. Probably a cat woman too at some time. All connected to this movie
Honestly thought riddler was the worst part of the movie, and I thought it was a great movie just could’ve casted a better riddler and presented him a better way.. same thing with the new costume for him
i gotta say about the batman taking lives thing, i think that's part of his character growth throughout the movie. at the beginning, he is vengeance. he'll stop at nothing to get revenge on those he feels have wronged him or gotham as a whole. but by the end, i think he's starting to get his moral compass straight, per the "this city is wounded like me" speech in the final scene. a key part of the film is batman going from being consumed by vengeance (ie literally referring to himself as vengeance for the first half of the film) to a true hero. the hero gotham needs. this also works for his emo persona as bruce wayne. even out of the suit, he's still consumed by batman's focus on revenge. maybe in the next film he can separate himself from that fully and get closer to the bruce wayne we all know and love
Dude no, Charlie is wrong here, Batman was not responsible for those trucks to crash, it was the penguin. Go watch the scene. This movie is the most accurate depiction of what Batman is
I feel like this is how Riddler always has been. In this movie he literally tries to be smarter than Batman while "punishing" Gotham at the same time, and at some points did outsmart him. So they did what his comic book version does, but does so while adding an intimidating theme. it's really cool
I personally enjoyed that Bruce Wayne in this movie is learning how to be Bruce Wayne, it’s the opposite from other movies, he’s used to being Batman, but he’s still trying to figure out how to be Bruce. I loved that aspect.
Same, I understand why someone wouldn't like it but i love it
I loved the film as a whole, but this aspect bothered me quite a bit, in particular coz it’s been 2 years since he’s been Batman, u would think he’d get Bruce Wayne down ages ago, 2 years is a LONG time to figure out how to separate your id, ego and superego. So imo, that’s a plot hole, but it’s not the end of the world, it’s still a great piece of cinema
Exactly. Bruce Wayne/Batman is a very depressed, mentally ill man. His character is defined by his pain, and the whole Bruce-Wayne-is-a-playboy-billionaire is a total façade. Battinson just hasn’t learned to be strong enough to put that emotional mask on yet.
@@mangosago1213 if Batman is as conscientious as he is in the film, then it’s a plot hole
@@shotbro4998 I think that’s because this is Batman we’re talking about, someone who is emotionally broken and unstable. So I think since this is Batman, then it’s okay to have the Main Character try to discover himself and his alter ego. Mainly because Bruce Wayne being mentally unstable has been exaggerated throughout the Media a lot, so I think him trying to find himself fits.
I liked Bruce Wayne was shown in this movie, because it shows how invested he is to Batman. He hasn't hit that balance yet and I think it shows how vulnerable and imperfect he can be
@@Padlock_Steve nobody cares what you think
If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
@@Padlock_Steve literally what he said
Exactly I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this
I feel like he was shown as Bruce Wayne in maybe like 4 total scenes maximum. Loved it
It’s really cool to see this new, “fresh faced” Batman. His equipment is both advanced and makeshift. The Batsuit is very clearly the 1.0 version. The original prototype before years of upgrades. The Batmobile is even more makeshift, essentially just being a glorified Baja Truck in black paint. I jokingly called it the Ghettomobile because of it’s borderline cobbled together appearance. Yet despite the fact that I thought I’d hate it and its rough exterior, it’s one of my favorites through raw presentation alone. It’s more living monster than supercar. Emerging from the shadows with a sound that’s like the wail of a banshee mixed with the roar of a lion. It’s fucking awesome.
Also Bruce is clearly still stuck completely in the shadow of his family’s death and Robert does a really good job of portraying that. As critical said there is no distinction between Bruce and Batman in this movie. Which is because the facade of Bruce hasn’t been created yet. Robert completely proved me wrong. I thought he’d be a terrible Batman, but after seeing it I can honestly say he does a lot of things as good or better than Bale. He’s absolutely great and a perfect fit for this particular version of Batman.
However the one who really steals the show is The Riddler. The best Batman stories are the ones where the mystery solving comes first. This is the first live action movie where that is taken to heart and it wouldn’t be possible without the Riddler. Who’s very similar in his presentation to the Zodiac Killer. Leaving behind cryptic clues and cyphers, all while taunting his pursuers nonstop. Reveling in their inability to crack his codes. I wouldn’t say he beats Heath Ledger’s joker, but he certainly gives him a run for his money. He’s creepy, competent and always one step ahead of those trying to stop him. Essentially he hits a lot of the same notes.
If they have more stories like this to tell, I’d be happy to see a continuation. However no matter if that happens or not, this movie will still be great. It’s completely self contained and tells it’s own story. Which is a blessing in and of itself.
100% agree with all of this. I would love to see Robert Pattinson return as Batman, and at the end of the movie they did hint at a possible sequel. My only worry though is that this first movie is so good that I'd worry that they wouldn't be able to follow it up. Anyways, seeing a newer version of Batman that's almost more vulnerable in a way was fantastic. My favorite DC movie to date.
Same i think people forget that hes portraying a much younger bruce who we dont see portrayed much in media. With time and development he will become justice and not just vengeance.
i love how DC's getting back on their feet recently, The Batman, JL Synder Cut, Joker and the Suicide Squad are all fantastic films, DC's really taking their time to make sure they do things right now... on the other hand.. with marvel and the new morbius.. yeah, it seems the roles might switch, who knows
Morbius was Nobel Peace Prize Material. I doubt I'll ever see a movie as good as Morbius again.
tbf, Mobius was sony. I don't think anyone expected much out of it
@@jacjac7154 This.
@@Masochistickoala morbius was the shit literary
I hated Suicide Squad but The Batman was great.
The lack of "disconnect" between Bruce Wayne and Batman to me is because hes so inexperienced and clearly puts more of his time and energy into Batman than into his public life. People call him a recluse and he comes across as standoffish. Because he's only two years in to his vigilante life, he hasn't found how to balance Bruce and Batman yet.
Same with the batmobile chase. Batman is more of a reckless driver than we've seen him be. He's not crashing into people and is clearly trying to avoid hurting civillians, but he's using the environment in a more reckless way than we've seen. This, too, imo is because of his inexperience and not knowing exactly how to be the Batman that Gotham needs. Its uncharacteristically reckless, but I think that's the point. He's a new Batman and is still getting the hang of things and it results in a reckless Batmobile chase.
its Year 2 batman
I couldn't agree more with your statement. I think alot of people see the disconnect as a fault, but I definitely see it as a positive because it clearly shows how early on in his career Batman is in at this point, not developing that playboy Bruce Wayne facade just yet. Even the dark tone and his notion of being "vengeance" slowly changes at the end of the film to be more of a symbol for "hope", which clearly shows he's continuing to grow as a Batman
Can we instead just focus on the real flaw of the movie? It was a slog. It was predictable af. It was repetitive. It was one note in tone, endless gritty grittiness w that orchestral nirvana soundtrack droning and DRONING. I had to watch this over two days in four sittings and I’m usually a freak about finishing a good movie after I start. I’m not hating, it had its moments, I’m eager for a sequel, and I won’t compare it to Dark Knight, but god it got boring. The realism was a nice addition for sure though.
@@TWHowl nice troll
@@SL4PSH0CK Batman is still Batman. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be well educated.
I think since Bruce is still relatively young, it makes sense that he’s still brooding and emo even when he’s not Batman. A kid that saw both his parents get capped in an alleyway is going to be a recluse and absolutely hate the world
Exactly what I was thinking. Something else I was thinking is that maybe in the 2nd one he could start growing that billionaire playboy persona, and then by the 3rd one he's fully built that billionaire playboy persona we all know from the comics, and other movies.
@@icantthinkofausername2844 yeah, he’s still very young and it’s early on in him being Batman, so it makes a lot of sense to me that he’d still be thinking about what had happened especially since most people don’t get a chance to have their revenge personally for things like that, but Bruce has the chance to be an entirely different, intimidating person to take revenge on the same criminals in the city that took his parents from him, and to protect it from the same thing that happened to him and even worse. but i feel like after maturing more and getting older he might separate the two, Bruce and Batman, a little more.
I agree. At this point, he's creating both the Batman and the Bruce Wayne characters.
It makes so much since for this version of the character. I couldn't imagine this movie keeping its tone if Robert switched to a happy, charasmatic version of Bruce Wayne. It would have been jarring
Charles does not have comic knowledge, which is really funny considering most of his complaints are just true to comics Bruce Wayne
Absolute killer film. Pattinsons delivery as Batman was very refreshing and a nice callback to animated Batman Kevin Conroy influences with his cadence and tone, which really reflected well with the tone which the movie was trying to set. I thought it was absolutely brilliant.
i think the lack of that “facade” bruce is supposed to put up was purposely done… at least that’s how i see it. he’s so caught up in discovering his purpose as the batman that he doesn’t separate his batman persona from his bruce persona
I like to think that Rob Patt’s Bruce Wayne is teetering on the edge of insanity. Which is what he struggles with during the duration of the film. You can see the distrust and distance in every scene, Pattinson’s ability to pull a thousand yard stare off so well is haunting. He even says that Wayne cannot even discern between the nights he operates and has to record and remind himself of what happened, which I love showing a Batman that is beginning to break. Pattinson’s Batman feels the most human, and the most grounded.
agreed 100% that’s why i actually love how batman’s moral compass is so unbelievably inconsistent this whole movie
especially after the emotional roller coaster with alfred and then hearing from Falcone that Maroney had his father killed. Remember how he talks to Alfred when he first wakes up?
"You lied to me. I don't like."
Well his mother is from Arkham family and she was admitted in Arkham Institution when she was young for some psychological problems. May be he has inherited some of that his mother. This storyline is directly taken from Batman Earth One comics. Also, big spoiler warning.
In Flashpoint timeline Martha becomes Joker and Thomas Wayne becomes Batman.
This is the first depiction of Bruce Wayne where he is so unhinged that I genuinely believe he would dress up as a bat and fight people.
Agreed, and this all compliments the fact that this is only a year two Batman. He hasn't yet "built" the Bruce Wayne persona that people are most familiar with. He is very much still figuring this whole Batman thing out and the movie doesn't shy away from that, which I love.
I think his disregard for life when he’s fixated on a villain could be brought up and used against him in a later movie by a villain, and I think it could be apart of his character development.
That's an interesting idea. I like it.
I feel since he's still learning to be batman he wanted to catch The Penguin and in doing so got a lot of people killed which is a good plot point due to him still being new to that life and he's being reckless but in time he will learn to balance and control the situations better.
@@xavierdarden3386 I think the ending where he helps the citizens escape from the flooding building is the moment where Bruce finally realizes that he isn't meant to be a symbol of fear and instead is meant to be a symbol of hope for the city, which is probably the origin for Batman's "no killing" policy that he lacked throughout most of the movie.
Yeah was batman better than the riddler (until the flood), because batman probably killed more than the riddler did, and batman killed innocents. Also, he seems to have more care for the bad guys, not using guns, stopping catwoman from using guns, etc. As he kills innocents without much care for them
like that one scene in captain america civil war?
I think Robert Pattinson did a fantastic job as both Batman and Bruce Wayne. Everything felt grounded in reality, and we've never seen a Bruce Wayne like this, and I think the lack of disconnect between the two is another reason it felt so real. Batman is Bruce, and Bruce is Batman. Seeing Bruce grow instead of seeing him already in the groove is a great move imo.
“There’s no disconnect between Batman and Bruce Wayne.” That’s the point😂😂😂
I think Bruce at this point in his life thought straight violence would be the answer to Gotham’s problems, but he says it himself. Him being Batman did not affect the crime rates, it did the opposite. It scared low level crooks shitless but it also gave birth to a different breed of villain i.e the Riddler. Bruce’s image of the playboy is essentially what his pops was, and Alfred even reminds him to play that part. We’ll see Playboi Bruce in sequels and Pattinson’s gonna kill it. You don’t cast Robert Pattinson to just be a violent masked vigilante, he’s too good of an actor.
I definitely agree. I think Bruce will develop over the other films and this one was more him getting ready to step into that role which I thought was a fresh and different feel compared to other movies done before.
Well put, man
@@Instabruh.User.. Lmao
Lmfao "too good of an actor" 🤣🤣
@@combatwombat594 You've clearly never seen The Lighthouse
The moment that I don't see people talking about that I absolutely loved was at the end when he goes to help the people underneath the rubble and when he reaches his hand out, no one trusts him until the little kid takes his hand. I feel like that's truly the moment where Gotham finally puts their trust in him and Bruce realizes that he should be a symbol of hope for Gotham rather than one of fear for criminals.
You got it!
such a powerful scene. Even after taking multiple gunshots and beaten to the point of death, we see he still has that compassion to help out those in need no matter what.
czcams.com/video/4X50SWdSpGg/video.html
be cool if that kid is robin
THAT was my favorite part
I love that Bruce is just a weird little goth in this. He's just so unattached from other people, in this best way. Because he's straight obsessed, and too awkward to be around normal people. My only complaint with the movie, other than the fact that it's like... always raining, during the chase scene, the camera work feels hella messy. It does make it feel chaotic, but I couldn't always figure out what was happening.
Couldve been a rainy week or somethin
I think it was more Penguin's fault than Batman's in the car chase. He probably would've killed Selina or Gordon if Batman didn't force him to leave by revving his engine up. I also don't really think Batman could've possibly imagined that Penguin would go to that extent to get away from him. Like a dozen or more people would've died there and that's a direct consequence of Penguin forcing several trucks to crash into each other, but not so much Batman's actions imo
I am still in disbelief of how good this film was, I thought I had hyped it up too much but after watching it feels like I didn’t hype it up enough
So If I were to compare it to The Dark Knight is it as good as that
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 better imo
This movie could honestly be the movie of the year
I think this movie is an absolute masterpiece and I fully agree with you
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Better overall film. Heath Ledger carried the dark Knight. This film is stronger in many aspects.
@@ledot2037 Damn It seems I have gotta check it out
I really love Paul Dano in general but I love how he brought together this iteration of The Riddler. If Jeffrey Dahmer and the Unabomber had a son he'd still be Mister fucking Rogers compared to what Paul was able to conjure for this role.
I would’ve liked a more egotistical Riddler where he thinks he’s superior to Batman and everyone in Gotham because he thinks he’s smarter like in the Arkham games which is his ultimate downfall of him being caught in that medium instead of him going mental and seeking vengeance through revealing the truth, killing the corrupt, and idolizing Batman. I thought he was a little bit over the top I laughed whenever he started screaming or moaning through his gimp mask 💀
EDIT
I feel like I would like his character more if I knew they were setting him up for a sequel. Near the end of the film he is told the harsh truth that him and Batman aren’t on the same page and his ego took a hit so if they have him manifest into an egotistical Riddler the payoff would be way better.
I got heavy Se7en vibes from his Riddler more than anything. The entire movie itself felt like it took inspiration from Se7en in atmosphere and cinematography.
Thought this said Paul Denino at first
@@jrzmark6140 ur weird for seeing this as a gimp mask, he was deranged and he didn’t hide his insanity at all
@@jrzmark6140 You still get his more egotistical side because when he's in prison he says to Batman that he thought Batman "was smarter". It's a small moment, but you can still tell he has a bit of an ego.
I like how realistic this batman was. Not too flashy, but still very impressive with his fighting and detective skills.
i absolutely loved the movie. for the first time we got the sophisticated detective side of batman and i also really liked the fact that the producers made sure to make every step that batman makes able to be heard, as if he's the divine force that keeps the city from falling apart
The introduction of the batmobile was hype as hell, especially when the theatre rumbles as he revs the engine
Bro teleported into that car tho lol
Was my favorite scene other than the fight in the dark walking down the hallway as the gun shots are going off though, was just funny how he was blasted on the floor and then boom he’s in that mf lol
@@zachfigas5793 Batman’s special ability is to teleport at anytime, how else does he get away from Jim Gordon so fast?
Big boner vibes when the batmobile started up
IMAX made this movie even better
I can’t blame you for having a gripe about Batman and Bruce acting the same but in canon this is pretty accurate. It takes him some time to balance it and deal with Batman being a separate entity from Bruce Wayne. I think the movie even takes a lot of inspiration from Batman: Ego
Edit: didn’t expect this many likes tbh. Thanks
Yeah not a lot of ppl are comic readers it seems, this movie was so well done!
@@saberfan seriously, it was. It was so much more than I could’ve asked for. Going in expecting your typical “beat em up” type of Batman and getting a grounded, inexperienced, and brutal Batman that’s also learning to become the worlds greatest detective and a symbol for the people was just so refreshing for me.
@@saberfan I hate comics being brought up every time any thing about a movie version is brought up. Something being “from the comics” doesn’t make it good.
@@eshryo237 yeah but it gives people a source, a ground zero, some sort context so it's kinda fair
@@eshryo237 bruce wayne being cheerful and extravagant is also from the comics...
I really loved this movie. Not a moment felt wasted, I love how we saw how he is just learning how to be The Batman, if what he is doing has an impact, I can’t wait to see how he develops. Also that Batmobile scene is amazing.
Man absolutely wonderful commentary on the movie. I love how you give a raw delivery on your points discussed. I had a few laughs, even shared it with my coworkers. I warned them of the small spoilers. They're good 👍🏾
I like how they didn't go with another origin story and felt like an actual standalone story, like a graphic novel
@Don't read profile photo 👍
Yeah, i haven’t seen the new Batman film yet but that’s probably why jokers one of my fav films
@Don't read profile photo okay, I won't
@Don't read profile photo Interesting
@Don't read profile photo ok
6:30 The car chase scene was hands down my favorite scene in the whole movie
The scene were the batmobile is first turned on was so sick. Everyone in my theater cheered
Cool car goes brubububu
My favorite was the first 3 mins. Riddler got my undivided attention.
My favorite scene is joker and riddler laughing in Arkham. The blank visual of just the doors to the rooms clashing with the manic laughing really portray something special that I’m too lazy to pick apart, but some CZcams will.
@@Pan_done I hate people who cheer in the cinema its cringe as fuck
Haven’t seen anyone really talking about the film’s amazing soundtrack. They match the events beautifully and create a sense of buildup and tension when it calls for it. Overall I think it’s extremely complimentary to the characters, the mood, the events, and Gotham itself. It has darker undertones with a bit of noir/mystery vibes- really enhances the drama.
This movie's biggest strength for me was this seedy noir atmosphere it created. Most of my favorite scenes were Batman just slowly stomping around crime scenes doing detective work.
The dynamic between Batman and Jim Gordon in this was possibly the strongest chemistry between the two characters I've seen depicted in film. Loved their almost buddy-cop level of teamwork.
I wanna compare this favorably to the Watchmen movie, specifically Rorschach's scenes.
The part where Bruce panicked on the ledge of a building was amazing. We see that he’s still afraid of heights cause he’s not yet a perfect Batman
Remember seeing this in theatres amazing detail to catch.
Also he didn't prepare his flight suit. He would've just fell off and died
@@badabingbing474 no shit
@@dtheguy3656 little detail people missed
Great detail!
To be honest, the car chase scene shows how focused Batman is on just taking down criminals, throughout the movie he doesn’t really help people, he just stops criminals, which yea that in turn helps people, but essentially what he does is just be “vengeance” and not “hope”, him disregarding the lives of others, makes me feel like this is his younger years of Batman, just starting out, too full of rage and sadness to be worried for other people, but by the end of the movie he learns he can’t just be vengeance, he must also be hope, which the leading people to safety thing is extremely symbolic to this premise, so to me, it makes complete sense why he disregarded the lives of those people, and who knows, they might’ve lived, it isn’t stated specifically
Also, I’m pretty sure if Batman would’ve stopped chasing him, the penguin would still be causing mayhem on the highway, sense penguin was in front, he was the one causing all of the damage, Batman didn’t really have a choice at this point, I mean he either stops and helps people but penguin is still causing stuff down the road, or Batman stops him asap so even more people don’t get harmed.
(Thanks for the likes DAMN)
Spot on
I doubt he would still be driving in the wrong direction if batman stopped chasing him
if he is only vengeance he would ve just use gun. He still want to save life, innocent of criminal. The car scene is just bad writing. It look cool tho.
@@thaoremchan9234 actually he considers himself vengeance because he takes down the criminals and villains without realizing what his actions entail. And the scene in the orphanage gave clarification that he has the no guns rule. So the point of the chase is that he indirectly killed quite a few people on that highway and he also indirectly killed thousands by overlooking a crucial detail in the riddler’s clues.
I had this complaint too but upon second viewing I realized there's a bit of a time gap between capturing penguin and him being interrogated, so it stands to reason batman might have helped people out kf burning cars in that time
The non-disconnect with Batman and Bruce Wayne in this movie says so much about how Bruce has always been Batman all his life even before the cape and cowl than an actual person living in the present in front of the public and the media. During the ending, after he realizes that he should be a symbol of hope for the innocent just as much as a vessel of vengeance for the corrupt and unlawful, we can safely assume that he also realized that he needs to develop the public image Bruce Wayne persona so he can build connections and utilize his family's assets from a law-abiding perspective. It's a really refreshing take on a Batman origin story which is amazing considering we have seen it a hundred thousand times before in past media.
I honestly thought that 3 hours was too short. We definitely need a sequel
There will be 2 more :)
I loved that they made Bruce a sad brooding guy. Strictly because it shows how traumatized he was from his parents death. Not a lot of movies show that.
Mainly because bruce also hasnt found his identity as bruce yet and still thinks hes batman 24/7 and in the comics i believe he starts to understand when he needs to be both batman and bruce but hasnt found that out yet since its year 2 of him being batman
@@thegamingboy5744 I agree its even pointed out that he doesn't even go outside and do his bruce wayne things. I'd like to think if there ever was a second movie using this storyline they would make bruce become an important figure in cleaning up the gotham disaster aftermath.
they died 20 years ago, yes he might be traumtized but nobody acts this way.. I know people who have lost their closed one, they can be sad for some time but this is just angsty teen mad this isn`t a mourning person, 20 years into him dealing with his lost and having tons of training and stuff
Yeah. Matt Reeves or Pattinson basically said that being Batman in his movie is like an addiction for Bruce.
If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
I loved the way riddler was in this film. He's been done in a more dark and intense tone in the comics but seeing it brought to life here is awesome
Best riddler was and always will be Jim Carrey
@@Rumpled4SkinFU2 keep living in your nostalgia
@@Logger1010 i think he was being sarcastic
According to my grandma he looked like
John Denver.
I personally really love how he looked like just some guy. Some Guy you could bump into at the grocery store. Some Guy who is just around with nothing creepy or crazy about him. He is a serial killer, Serial Killers look just like everyone else.
I also love how they implement the new technology like streaming and CZcams because if we’re really honest here if any murderer from the Bat-universe showed up in our world they would be drawn to social media.
Sadly there were no riddler trophies
*minor spoilers*
I love how more grounded and gritty the film is. From the environment and atmosphere, and even Batman.
Even when his his younger years as the vengeful, younger and brooding Batman, you can see and even feel the paranoia that each criminal feels when they both see the signal and the dark.
Even Batman here, while fighting doesn’t exactly do Arkham Series evades and counters, instead he tanks hits and just dishes them back 10x more for the most part.
Bruce Wayne is really just super emo and brooding, pretty much just that.
Riddler was also great here. A far cry from collecting Riddler trophies across Arkham and Gotham City. He really just feels like something from the SAW series. That and his breathing is really unnerving.
The Batmobile was great too. The cinema I watched it in had a surround sound-like setup and hearing that thing start up and roar was just an eargasm.
I hope with the ending too that Bruce Wayne changes too in sequels in the future. Where his billionaire philanthropic playboy persona comes to be.
I know this video is about a month old so Charlie might not see it, but anyways here are my 2 cents for anyone that cares.
I've watched a ton of different Batman shows and movies and I've read a lot of different books and comics on the character too. And in the very best, the writer (and artists and animators when it applies) choose to explore a specific aspect of the Batman and his Bruce Wayne persona. The thing about the Matt Reeves version is that the character of the Batman does not yet know how to use the Bruce Wayne persona to his advantage. He does not yet realize that he can use the clout attached to the Wayne brand to further his fight (or crusade rather). Pattinson did a wonderful job of showing how being Vengeance isn't enough, and how that realization makes him despair a little. As Charlie mentioned, the Reeves Batman is supposed to be in the early stages and it shows in the best ways. There you go.
I love that they got Michael Reeve's to play himself as the Riddler in the movie
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought he looked like Michael Reeves
@@AlcyoneSivin7 my friend said he noticed it too, there are more of us out there brother. It made all of his scenes so much more entertaining. Once the movie is available for streaming Im plan on making an edit to dub over audio of Michael talking
That's what I was thinking the whole time! Like, I could barely take the Riddler seriously before because of his voice then he was unmasked and I was just barely holding it together in the rest of his scenes.
He was a taser trap and some acne away from literally just being Michael Reeves.
@@ronramen5827 Batman has to stop this psycho from terrorizing gotham with his weaponized baby doll with laser eyes
The movie could’ve been 10 hours and I still wouldn’t have gotten enough seriously didn’t even feel like 3 hours when I was watching it ,can’t wait for the sequel 10/10.
This movie was way to long. Felt like 5 hours to me... The pacing was just bad. I don't know what you mean.
@@tomgu2285 exactly. A solid 8/10. Nothing special
@@tomgu2285 foreal
you are kidding are you just didnt see the movie, ive never checked the time in a movie so much... felt like 8 hours... so boring.
Was too extended good 6/10
Big fan of Batman's new strategy of just walking up to the front door of the place where the baddies are and just walking in. The crunching of his boots coming out of the dark was definitely scarier then the flickering shadows he usually uses.
Edit: 2:00 Those goon were unlucky. They show them leave the cover of the sky, unable to see the warning.
I always watch reviews on a movie to hear other peoples thoughts on a film I just watched and Charlie is one of my favourite people to hear from so nice
Something I love about the movie is how it’s never once a sunny day. The only time we see the sun is at sunset and early sunrise, but never overhead. It’s either night, overcast, pouring rain, or all three. And I love it, because that’s how I’ve always imagined Gotham in my head. A crime ridden, piece of shit place to live where there’s never a sunny day.
So Gotham is basically modern day London
@@BruceWayne-xm3wn Yes it is
theres no place like london
@@BruceWayne-xm3wn A portion of it was filmed there 😂
Well that's why it makes it even more impactful at the end, when the sun finally comes out and there's that glimmer of hope that Batman wants to give to Gotham
I actually loved the recklessness and lack of distinction between batman and bruce wayne as i think it lines up with what an early rendition of the character would be. You could also see this with how brutally he beat people up. This is why I loved Batman Arkham Origins so much.
Yea he was pissed but after a while he turns into hope instead of fear and that’s during the time he meets Robin he starts to be happier and the bat family
Straight up. He’s still got so much pent up emotional damage and he’s suffering from it 24/7. If he took the cowl off and was some fancy charismatic playboy it would feel so off. It’s an origin story in a way we’ve never seen.
@@GriffinLymburn as if big film critics have reliable opinions. Most of them are laughable
@@GriffinLymburn don’t ever rely on critics to decide if you should see a film or not, sometimes they’re bias or they opinions on film don’t line up with yours. I always watch a movie I’m excited for first before watching reviews, that way I can form my own opinion without any bias and I can hear other people’s opinions after I’ve formed mine! It’s something I started doing a decade ago when Tyler the creator released an album. All the press he did he would say the album was trash and sounded awful and he didn’t let anyone review, after it came out he came out and said he wanted people to form their own opinions on the art instead of following whatever the critics think or say.
Yeah this Batman is definitely set before he finds the advantage of using his alter ego, Bruce Wayne.
That monologue tho. Cinematic masterpiece
The one whwre catwoman tells the rich white man that rich white people are the problem lmao as if the irish and british are the same ppl
Another strong part of the movie I think was the score. It brought so much intensity and suspense without going over the top. The percussive music during the chase scene gave me chills they put all the right music in all the right spots. I honestly thing that this score might be one of the best music scores I’ve ever heard. Major props to the composer.
The scene where the bat mobile was rumbling with the hot coil in the engine was amazing. Felt scary
The engine noise was so so good
Thisss
Yooo If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
I loved how when you really look at it, Batman kinda lost this one, the riddler killed everyone he wanted to, except Bruce, flooded the city, killed countless people and did tons of damage, (and I believe figured out who Batman's alter ego was) whereas Batman, didnt figure out the mystery, twice (pigeon and carpet) and only caught the riddler when he gave himself up. I think the only thing he did successfully was beat people in fights. But I loved how we see batman in his early career failing at things, and slowly becoming "the world's greatest detective"
Spoiler Alert btw
Nah, I think it was clear than the Riddler hadn't figured out Batman was Bruce Wayne. He thought Batman was on his side, helping his cause. He thought The Bat was on his side for killing Bruce.
When he sent the bomb to Bruce Wayne with the letter addressed to Batman, it said "see you in hell". Then when in prison, Riddler reveals that he was talking about seeing Batman in prison. It wasn't that he thought he was killing Batman when he tried to kill Bruce Wayne.
@@Blobbyo25 doesnt he addresse batman as bruce in the interrogation scene?
address* oops
@@mankindsbadhabits3616 nah he keeps repeating bruce wayne then he says : the one that got away. Since he was the only one he didn't kill.
@@mankindsbadhabits3616 They scripted it to make it look like he was to create tension, and it looks like Batman thought that he knew too, but as The Riddler keeps talking it's clear he has no idea that they're the same person. He legitimately thought that Batman would team up with him to take down Bruce Wayne
From the moment that opening scene hits with that monologue you just knew it was going to be a great Batman movie.
I think the fact that he was so reckless in the chase scene was sort of a reminder that this batman is new to being a superhero, and doesn't fully know how cautious he should be.
I actually really like the brooding Bruce Wayne. It's always annoyed me that Batman is supposed to be a dark, troubled man, but once he takes the costume off he's a confident playboy. It always made it feel like being dark and conflicted was a part of the gimmick, like it wasn't genuine and was just something he played out when he was Batman, almost as an obligation. So whenever people talk about how dark and brooding Batman is as a character I've always seen it as a major reach. It usually feels like (at least in the live action films) he's brooding and dark simply because he's Batman, and not that he himself is troubled or conflicted in any way. That's just always been how I interpreted it. So it's nice to finally see a live action Batman that feels like an actually tormented man and not a millionaire *playing* a tormented man.
Buddy Bruce Is the mask Batman is a dark trouble man he wears a fuckin bat suit and fights crime at night
I agree I loved this Batman movie
And I think ultimately with Batman becoming the true good guy Batman by the end, we'd ultimately see him develop a good Wayne life to fake as well. Like, he's not doing any charity work in the movie because he's busy being a vigilante.
Exactly that’s how Bruce Wayne should be all the time tbh
Actually its usually the other way around. Batman actually plays the playboy, not the other way around
The scene where Riddler is standing behind the mayor will forever haunt me.
i wont lie i nearly shat my pants watching that scene. They truly made riddler a fucking terrifying villain
czcams.com/video/4X50SWdSpGg/video.html
@@mnkpop5858 Sus link, very sus link
nah fr i said WTF
yeah. the scene where riddler attacks mayor is disturbing.
The footsteps were my FAVORITE part of the whole movie. In the alley, in the church after the SUV crashes through it; so chilling
I've come back to this 6 months later and I still don't see enough people talking about Catwoman or Penguin. The acting from everyone in this movie was amazing, everyone deserved the success that came from this
I think the point when it comes to his disregard for people is that he sees himself as vengeance incarcerated, where as by the end of the movie he grows as a character and realizes the by being vengeance, he instills fear, when he needs to inspire hope. This movie I think is fantastic as it's a character growth movie.
you mean vengeance incarnate?
@@pepesilvia2094 No cause batman goes to jail
Ehhhhhhh. Batman no kill rule is the lamest thing about him. Yeah, maybe he shouldn't be killing innocent people but we don't need anymore tired justifications why he'll never kill anyone no matter what.
I feel like the movie does such a bad job at expressing how Batman feels that by the end of the movie when this conclusion is reached your sorta sit there wondering what even changed his mind aside from getting pissed off here and there and maybe saving a few people.
@@cocogoat1111 Batman no kill rule is prolly the coolest thing about him , it’s not that he doesn’t want to kill its that if he were to kill he wouldn’t be able to stop
Robert Pattinson has really turned his career around since Twilight. Loved him in Lighthouse and Tenet.
You need to watch Good Time it stars Robert Pattinson and it is a thrill ride from start to finish. Truly the most thrilling movie I have ever seen. It's thrilling like uncut gems is thrilling, (Good Time came out before), you don't like the main character but you have to root for him so he can help his brother who you do like. It is almost a masterpiece. You NEED to watch it.
@@iTalkALotDontListen good time goes hard
@@iTalkALotDontListen I agree!
Him and Kristen Stewart both have.. guess it shows sometimes its a shitty script/director not shitty actors lol
He was nice in Good Time and The Rover movies...
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to say that loved your review of the movie. You made some great points, and I do agree with some of the complaints you made, which were pretty valid imo. Overall, great review of a great movie. Keep up the great work Charlie. 👍
“No disconnect”
Bro that was the point smh 🤦🏻♂️
im so glad charlie is reviewing movies with smaller actors than he is, really shows how much he cares about other actors
Not everybody can be as big a star as Charlie, star of The Hunger Games.
I think he nailed a young Bruce Wayne still figuring out his place, while he's more focused on being The Batman. I'm definitely looking forward to the development of the character and more of Pattinson. If they ever decide to continue this.
Thats the real question; if they continue it. DC hasn’t landed many times with their movies for me personally, but goddamn they nailed this one and I stg they better actually invest in a sequel for this movie because its actually really compelling seeing this conflict between the identities of bruce wayne and batman, in this absolute shithole of a city. Even the development we did get in the film had me wanting to see more of these characters and the batman’s progression as a person. Definitely think pattinson nailed this shit though, felt like the most grounded and “human” batman has been in awhile, which makes sense because he is only human after all, and in this universe is very new to the vigilante scene.
@@keith7261 Seems like it's doing aight in box office so I think it's likely they'll continue.
@@yes-gs2rd recent DC movies have all had good box office numbers, but with this one probably being their best box office success in awhile it’ll make it easier for them to continue. Its a completely different example, but the Joker movie did great in worldwide box office but they’ve been silent on any plans for the character to continue (which it’s different with it being a villain, but I felt that the movie was just an origin story, and it would be interesting to see the joker at his peak). You’re most likely right, Im just being pessimistic lol
I’d really wish this would be the start of a dceu that would be incredible.
@@you.8677 the new flash and aquaman movie is looking very promising, but black adam idk because the rock is a great actor and all but he can only play himself and black adam is a ruthless antagonist and i just cannot see him that way. Remember what happen when he try to play the villain, it just looks goofy af haha.
You make an interesting point about the car chase and the supposed moral dilemma this Batman professes. That's spot on and I didn't even think of it even while watching the film. Also I did see an interview where they expressed that they wanted this Batman character wrestling with how to be a hero and Bruce Wayne and that the lines would blur because he would be a recluse that wouldn't know how to switch off from being Vengeance - Batman whom he thought wasn't making a big difference . He honestly was struggling with how to be an effective Batman throughout the film and notice towards the end that he went from vengeance to being hope and a rescuer. Remember the flare shot? Him leading the people of Gotham to safety? Or carrying the girl to be air lifted? I believe that's where the transition starts. That's when he realized that he could be more. I'd expect more from this character in other installments. Great video btw..
I like this version of Batman because you can see the detective side more which is different from the others
Yeah the whole movie reminded me of the Arkham games in a good way
@@danielbutka8854 exactly
@@danielbutka8854 Fr I was expecting Batman to start finding riddler trophies in the first detective scene lol
Absolutely agreed 🙌🏼
hsi Detective side is dumb as fuck in this movie
Imagine getting a wrong idea about clue just because you don't know spanish lmao
saw it in imax and when the batmobile’s engine revved up i literally felt my chest vibrate and my ears explode. it was amazing
i saw it in 4dx i thought i was going to fucking die
@@BigTastyRat98 lmao, yeah that scene was amazing.
If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH
@@Mr_Cinematic nah
batman always starts off brooding and anti social. as he gains more family, it softens his heart and he begins to maintain his public image. remember, he obsesses over his mission
At the end Batman realize he’s inspiring the villains. The guy he beats to a pulp says he’s vengeance, riddler being delusional and thinks he’s his sidekick by taking down corrupt police. I enjoyed that take on it.
I think Batman and Bruce being the same person is the point… he hasn’t been able to master the Bruce persona… and also the reason why he was Batman for most of the movie is because it’s his true self… riddler himself said it…
facts i feel in the next movie he’ll be more of a bruce persona
@@jacobmougeot6494 their fucking better be another movie. Idk why they even waiting start making more.
@@polsdofer And Matt Reeves is interested with bringing Mr Freeze in a sequel
Yooo If you liked this video you should also check out my review of the BATMAN BRAH