Notice how different this sounds to the official soundtrack release. Especially when Evan enters the gymnasium, you can hear the echos coming from Ben’s voice. So I kind of like to think Ben did all of the Singing on Camera and then later recorded version for the Soundtrack.
In The Greatest Showman, the movie versions of the songs sound different to the soundtrack versions as well. So I was hoping they'd do it here considering it has the same songwriters as The Greatest Showman But I can hear that it is most likely Ben actually singing rather than lip synching
I saw a photo online that during this number, Connor waves at him, but Evan is looking in the wrong direction and Connor storms off in frustration. In You Will Be Found, Evan says, “if you only look around.” Maybe if he had looked around, they may have actually been friends. I’ll be watching the movie like a hawk to see if there’s any reference to that in the movie.
Do you mean the stage version at the Tony Awards? That was actually just a mistake, because Connor only flipped his hair 🙊 But it is indeed a nice thought 😊
@@secretselfie5086 idk maybe, I see it's not something they actually did in the show, but I still like to think it some universe it would have happened
@@katelensworld This is the first I've heard about it, but he was definitely just brushing his hair back, sadly. However, now it is something I wish they would add to the show.
Those saying auto tune was applied. Have you never heard Ben live?? He truly amazing & always delivers a beautiful performance. He's the very definition of "pitch perfect" I mean come now, he was on Broadway.
Just because he’s been on Broadway doesn’t mean he’s not going to get autotuned. You can absolutely hear it in his voice here. Amazing singers get autotuned all the time, even if they don’t need it or it’s against their wishes, since a lot of the time they won’t have the final say on these decisions.
Director to Background Students: Alright, we just need you to walk around this gymnasium in circles and pretend to know where you're going while a curly haired boy in a striped shirt belts his heart out. Background Students: Say no more
The direction on this could’ve been so inspired and they could’ve really used it to highlight and emphasises evan’s anxiety but instead it’s just… some people walking and ben platt looking sad
This is just a small clip, so I'm not going to make final judgement on it yet, but I think they did a good job on showing his anxiety through body language in a normal crowd setting. For instance, near the end of the clip he's very caved in on himself, keeping his arms in close to his body and out of the way of accidentally hitting passersby. I recognize that posture because it's the same one I pull in any kind of crowded situation. Again, tho, that's just a minute and fourteen second clip out of a movie that's at least an hour and a half or more, so I could be very very wrong.
@@SilverLily I’m not knocking ben platt’s performance at all. He’s communicating anxiety very well. But when you compare this filmic naturalism to the heightened surrealism of the stage version.. this adaptation just does not have the same effect
@@MattEvuns that's fair. And, tbh, I'm not sure how they would've adapted some elements from the play over to an actual movie. I don't think the feeling of You Will Be Found, with it's comment section part is going to carry over and make sense. Honestly, I would've much preferred a proshot of the Broadway version, because sometimes you just *can't* copy things from the stage to big screen because it won't make sense. While I'm excited for it, I'm worried it's going to look like a campy teen flick or like a Netflix version, lol.
Sorry to come into this late, but I honestly feel like everybody walking around him and not noticing him is actually very fitting. This happened in both the musical and movie version. This song is literally about him being invisible and while he is singing it, he is literally invisible. Nobody is noticing him, nothing. They're just walking past as normal. It all fits the song. I also like to believe that he isn't truly singing while the scene in the background plays out. It is an internal dialogue being performed solely for the audience to see. It isn't actually happening, which is why nobody is reacting.
It sounds quite different from the official soundtrack... So for now the ranking for me stands 1. Broadway version 2. This version 3. Movie soundtrack version (maybe i'm just not used to it yet)
@@kayjayt8607 Same. I know its a choice that's more honest than lip syncing but this is a musical. I think the music quality should take priority over consistent lip sync quality.
Well someone’s bound to hear you considering how loud you’re singing, Evan. Keep it up, and you will be found. 😂 . With that said, though, this looks like it will be quite an emotionally gripping film to watch. I heard “Dear Evan Hansen” is a beloved show that really sparked discussion about depression and suicide. Kudos to the show’s writers for tackling a subject that many people tend to struggle with. I can’t wait to see the film.
Don't forget about the diet he went on just to lose some weight for the role too. He put his heart into this. The makeup department is where everything went downhill.
Oh my god this touched me what a song about the shyness people feel it totally gets me when I was like that I am liking this movie already it makes me feel so wonderful and alive
Watching this made me realize I had social anxiety on my early childhood, then outgrew it in middle school when most kids start to get more anxious. I used to complain to my parents about not being able to hear my own thoughts and looking at the other kids like bees buzzing around my head.
I fucking LOVE how they revamped the composition of the song. Very emphasized and lively. Ben also altered his vocal colour and style a bit. Can't wait to see it
@@coldLaugh Well, Annie did, and given that she currently has 19 likes, 19 others probably did as well. So congrats, you're not only wrong. But hilariously wrong.
To answer the questions if this was recorded live, I definitely don’t think it was. You can tell this was recorded in a studio since at 0:34, there are two takes of the performance when his voice overlaps with itself. He most likely redid the “tried to speak but nobody can hear” part so they put the two clips together! :’D
Honestly everyone complaining about the age thing just needs to stfu. This movie doesn't get made without Ben Platt as the lead. Tobey Maguire was 26/27 when he played teenage Peter Parker and looked like...a guy in his late 20s. Most of the actors in Friday Night Lights were in their 20s playing teens. This happens all the time in Hollywood. Either you accept it or you don't. If you don't buy it, then don't watch.
@@lukasky03 Fr. People seem to forget also that Ben isn’t even the oldest actor to play a teen. The guy who played Montgomery (or Monty) in 13 RW WAS 34 when he last played him, and no one bitched then
Read what I wrote. I never said he was perfect for everything. Maybe it would have been nice to try to find a different actor for the film but it would have had close to zero chance of getting made.
what worries me is that they cut all the songs that had other peoples POVs in them (good for you, anybody have a map, etc) and like they only have him because he claimed that he was the only good evan but didnt cast anyone else from the original like laura dreyfuss
That…isn’t the truth at all? He simply said if he wasn’t Evan, the movie probably wouldn’t have gotten made. Some songs had to be cut in order to focus on the main arc and shorten the musical down. That comes at the expense of other characters, yes, but if it’s to emphasize what is most important (the arcs of the most significant characters) then that’s okay. Casting ultimately doesn’t matter as long as they perform their role well.
I get that people are older playing younger. Kirsten Bell was Veronica Mars for years. It's just whoever did his makeup or maybe prosthetics, his face looks artificial. It's nothing against Ben. He could have shown up in full beard and I would love it, but the makeup is offputting it makes him look sick or something.
I agree with you. The makeup and the hair choice was definitely a strange combination that didn't seem to work as well. I think Ben is fantastic in the role but they could have done a better job making him over.
Yea. Casting him as the lead was silly. They should have put him in a smaller role like maybe as a teacher or something. Kind of like they did with Lin in In The Heights.
He has social anxiety and depression so in a way he is sick. When you are depressed and anxious and a loner you don’t really worry about your appearance anymore or that your clothes are clean or if your hair is a mess because essentially you have given up on presenting yourself to others. These disorders can definitely take a toll on a person to the point where they don’t look recognizable if left unchecked. The sad fact is that Evan has essentially no one and this is brought to the audiences attention early on. When he does end lying to the Murphy’s about his friendship with Connor he begins to believe it because he wishes he had friends or parents who paid attention to him, I mean Evan is still a bad guy, but he does try to redeem himself in the end. It’s such a heartbreaking story and I feel that Ben Platt portrays Evan as a socially awkward student pretty well considering.
He literally looks fine he looks young in my eyes, also ya gotta think that they probably did some magic editing tricks that help him de-age, so he is shorter and looks younger, along with the aforementioned makeup. But in my opinion he looks spot-on but looks as if im in the minority
Ben Platt is as amazing as always. But I wish they could have done something more stylistic with the cinematography and editing. These days, there's a trend of making musical films look hyperealistic(eg, Les Miserables, Cats, etc.), so much so that some of the magic gets lost.
I'm not sure this is comparable to shows about unfortunate people singing to really happy melodies and cats wanting suicide. You have a point but it's not liker there's a genre shift here. DEH has always tried to stay grounded and intimate. Les Mis and Cats really could not give two shits.
Personally, I think the cinematography is actually kind of perfect. It really captures Evan's feelings of being alone in a crowd, which is what the song is about, and as someone with social anxiety I think it really captures some things I have felt myself. It is quite different than most movies now though, and I can see how the style might not be for everyone though.
@@hefoughtabear118 well there has to be more creativity when you are on a stage and have to convey a story while all the actors have to face the audience. With this movie, the camera can go anywhere and that means it doesn’t have to be as busy and as cramped as it sometimes seems onstage. It may not be the same level of creativity, but the creativity is absolutely there
@@allisynwalker6542 imo they could have done a lot more than just have long tracking shots revolving around evan and extras walking around him. They could have at least incorporated the intense lighting or his visually creative yet depressing perceptions of the people around him from the stage version's. Him standing alone in a crowd for the whole number is kinda lazy to me.
While the movie wasn’t as close to the play Ben platt truly did embody Evan Hanson but I do think he shouldn’t have been casted not just cause of his age but because for me it makes the other people in the cast of who did the play feel like they were a wash compared to him. Just doesn’t seem fair to me especially since his dad was the producer of the film
It boggles my mind why they autotuned and post-processed a professional broadway singer so much. So dumb. Also I love Ben Platt but the choice to cast him was extremely silly. They should have done a handoff type thing where they put him in a small role like they did for Lin in In The Heights. (Notice the difference between these two movies on Rotten Tomatoes)
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It sometimes sounded like autotune was put in. I dont understand why, because Ben's voice is flawless, he sang in a musical where everything is life and it sounded perfect, so why is it edited here?
Don’t listen to the critics. I watched the movie and I LOVED it. Yes there were 4 missing songs as you are aware of but they added two new great ones and it’s still amazing
If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? These words are very old. Seeing he decided to use them as a aspect of whatever you call this is called "biting"... They think young kids will never pick up on this fact.
Evan Hansen is basically me, im basically in the shadow, and nobody sees me except for my friends, everyone else just thinks I'm trash, where I'm not, they should see this, and think their desisions
Terrible movie. Terrible message with no consequences. Casting someone who looks 40 to play a teen was the worst choice. Rest of the cast was good. An honest reviewer .
For those who don't understand the age issue: The problem is not that Ben is too old and the criticisms aren't that Ben is irreplaceable because his acting and voice are Evan. It is that he is older than he was when he originated the role. This breaks down into two parts: 1. Medium - stage and screen are fundamentally different. Suspension of disbelief is higher on stage because audience and actors experience the same physics, so, the audience has to pretend with the actors. Actors represent characters and the two are inseparable. Screen is lower because the reality is limitless, so, the audience does not have to think a lot to belief what is happening. Actors are characters but they are not the same people. 2. Time - time within a medium is different from time without. Within, time elapses but characters age only if relevant. Without, actors age in real time. The fallacy lies in one actor bridging the gap by crossing two thresholds of suspension of disbelief. Stage Ben originated, then stopped, then started back up after the intervening years to be Film Ben. Which is to say, Stage Evan was a teen who shared a body with Ben, who aged 6 years causing Evan to age, in which Evan then switched mediums to be Film Evan who exists independently of Ben. If that did not make sense, 1. That is the dissonance people feel about Ben's age manifested into words, so, it is supposed to sound confused. 2. Most questions regarding confusion are answered in the Medium and Time paragraphs if you read carefully. In other words, the age of the actor does not matter only if the actor does not reprise the role in a different medium years later, regardless of the original medium because the comparison is solely based around that one actor reprising the role. Regardless of age in the original medium, the comparison of the same actor will be a reminder, not that they are too old to play the roll, but that they are older than they were when they originated the role and that is what people mean when they say someone is too old. Why our brains have a problem with this concept likely has to do with our pattern recognition abilities, the one thing humans excel at, and our memories being at odds with our ability to believe in things not real.
Honestly, for me the problem isn't his age or any of this. It's that his hair and makeup in this are so bad that he actually looks older than even his real age. I really think his makeup in this looks awful. He shouldn't have lost weight for it either because the slightly chubby cheeks also made him (and almost anyone else!) look younger.
@@Lizzo13 I actually think the opposite. I think they succeeded in making been look like an awkward teen with just enough of the wrong proportions and unattractive skin. And then there's the wig which is questionable
This version is in a totally different setting. The students moving around were a huge distraction and destroyed the poignancy of the piece. This should have been shot closer to the intent of the stage version. It lost the ensemble feel of the stage version. Ben, as much as you want it, you're not getting an Oscar for this, bud. Sorry.
@@galacticbreadboi9796 Honestly, I think they made a slightly right choice. If they'd cast someone else, the fans will be disappointed because of the vocals anyways. It'll be hard to find somebody who can really play Evan.
Hmmmm for someone from Asia and I have seen alot of other actors not playing their age, Ben Platt looks the part! Don't let me dig Hollywood history on this... Madonna playing Evita and and winning a Golden Globe for an example!
Nah, compared to many other high-school movies where the age of the actors is really obvious and takes you out of the emersion, they definitely did a very good job at making Ben look the part. In my opinion he looks no older than someone in their early 20s and that's pretty damn good.
I don’t think it’s auto tune. It might be slightly changed because it’s for a movie format but he sang all this live on Broadway first. He can actually sing like that and definitely doesn’t need auto tune.
Notice how different this sounds to the official soundtrack release. Especially when Evan enters the gymnasium, you can hear the echos coming from Ben’s voice. So I kind of like to think Ben did all of the Singing on Camera and then later recorded version for the Soundtrack.
Definitely separate takes, the first “on” sounds different from the soundtrack, as do the ending “waving”s
That's typically how it's done for movies, yes
@@mikeythesoulace Not really, most of the time they’d just dub over actor’s lip syncing to music they already recorded
In The Greatest Showman, the movie versions of the songs sound different to the soundtrack versions as well. So I was hoping they'd do it here considering it has the same songwriters as The Greatest Showman
But I can hear that it is most likely Ben actually singing rather than lip synching
Sometimes different takes work better on screen/in album
I saw a photo online that during this number, Connor waves at him, but Evan is looking in the wrong direction and Connor storms off in frustration. In You Will Be Found, Evan says, “if you only look around.” Maybe if he had looked around, they may have actually been friends.
I’ll be watching the movie like a hawk to see if there’s any reference to that in the movie.
Hey! Do you happen to have the photo? I would love to see that!
Do you mean the stage version at the Tony Awards? That was actually just a mistake, because Connor only flipped his hair 🙊 But it is indeed a nice thought 😊
@@secretselfie5086 idk maybe, I see it's not something they actually did in the show, but I still like to think it some universe it would have happened
@@katelensworld This is the first I've heard about it, but he was definitely just brushing his hair back, sadly. However, now it is something I wish they would add to the show.
Gosh, that's...sad...
Those saying auto tune was applied. Have you never heard Ben live?? He truly amazing & always delivers a beautiful performance. He's the very definition of "pitch perfect" I mean come now, he was on Broadway.
Just because he’s been on Broadway doesn’t mean he’s not going to get autotuned. You can absolutely hear it in his voice here. Amazing singers get autotuned all the time, even if they don’t need it or it’s against their wishes, since a lot of the time they won’t have the final say on these decisions.
Director to Background Students: Alright, we just need you to walk around this gymnasium in circles and pretend to know where you're going while a curly haired boy in a striped shirt belts his heart out.
Background Students: Say no more
Students are already professionals at that in general so probably not much practice
The direction on this could’ve been so inspired and they could’ve really used it to highlight and emphasises evan’s anxiety but instead it’s just… some people walking and ben platt looking sad
This is just a small clip, so I'm not going to make final judgement on it yet, but I think they did a good job on showing his anxiety through body language in a normal crowd setting. For instance, near the end of the clip he's very caved in on himself, keeping his arms in close to his body and out of the way of accidentally hitting passersby. I recognize that posture because it's the same one I pull in any kind of crowded situation. Again, tho, that's just a minute and fourteen second clip out of a movie that's at least an hour and a half or more, so I could be very very wrong.
@@SilverLily I’m not knocking ben platt’s performance at all. He’s communicating anxiety very well. But when you compare this filmic naturalism to the heightened surrealism of the stage version.. this adaptation just does not have the same effect
@@MattEvuns that's fair. And, tbh, I'm not sure how they would've adapted some elements from the play over to an actual movie. I don't think the feeling of You Will Be Found, with it's comment section part is going to carry over and make sense. Honestly, I would've much preferred a proshot of the Broadway version, because sometimes you just *can't* copy things from the stage to big screen because it won't make sense. While I'm excited for it, I'm worried it's going to look like a campy teen flick or like a Netflix version, lol.
Sorry to come into this late, but I honestly feel like everybody walking around him and not noticing him is actually very fitting. This happened in both the musical and movie version. This song is literally about him being invisible and while he is singing it, he is literally invisible. Nobody is noticing him, nothing. They're just walking past as normal. It all fits the song. I also like to believe that he isn't truly singing while the scene in the background plays out. It is an internal dialogue being performed solely for the audience to see. It isn't actually happening, which is why nobody is reacting.
@@SilverLily I just saw the movie and it was really good! I recommend you watch it
I gotta admit the change in sound as he goes into the gymnasium gives me chills in the best way.
_doors open_
_walks into new room_
“ON THE OUTSIDE”
No evan
Nope, it’s official. Cant wait for the 24th. Need it NOW!!
Why the hate for this movie? Its actually okay not that bad.
Ben Platt will always be Evan Hansen
Say that to Andrew Barth Feldman and Jordan Fisher
@@boboanimates7445 Okay! Ben Platt will always be Evan Hansen!
@@SnowyCometMMD oh no you didn’t
@@boboanimates7445 Jordan is good but Ben is the best Evan
@@ShortKingSlush I would disagree with you, some are better than Ben
This is my favorite song in the musical! It has so much emotional power to it!
the "Waving" hits sooooo right
It sounds quite different from the official soundtrack... So for now the ranking for me stands
1. Broadway version
2. This version
3. Movie soundtrack version (maybe i'm just not used to it yet)
Yeah. I don’t know, but seems to me that he might be singing on camera rather than lip-syncing to the soundtrack.
@@kayjayt8607 Same. I know its a choice that's more honest than lip syncing but this is a musical. I think the music quality should take priority over consistent lip sync quality.
@@darearms9790 A star is born did the no lip syncing thing really well, i have faith in this
@@kayjayt8607 they all sing on camera. It’s not pre-recorded lip syncing. The movie is not as good as the Broadway show, but it’s still pretty awesome
Nope it's not just you. They autotuned the crap out of it for no reason.
If evan actually sung like this, he'd probably be the most popular kid in school
I love Ben Platt.
Well someone’s bound to hear you considering how loud you’re singing, Evan. Keep it up, and you will be found. 😂 .
With that said, though, this looks like it will be quite an emotionally gripping film to watch. I heard “Dear Evan Hansen” is a beloved show that really sparked discussion about depression and suicide. Kudos to the show’s writers for tackling a subject that many people tend to struggle with. I can’t wait to see the film.
He's not actually singing. We're hearing his thoughts in song because it's a musical.
@@misspriss2482 I get that. I was just joking.
@@misspriss2482 bro i think everyone except you knew it was a joke bro
Prepare for the emotional madness that is this musical
(not in a negative way of course)
Want to watch a recording of the broadway show to get an idea of what the hype is about? :)
This 1 Minute and 13-second clip had 29 Camera Angle changes...
The fact that Ben had to shave his beard just for this film shows how much commitment he has. He loved his beard lol
Don't forget about the diet he went on just to lose some weight for the role too. He put his heart into this. The makeup department is where everything went downhill.
Okay but that was beautiful and I had a deep feeling in my head saying, “I’m gonna cry-“ Both the musical and movie stole my heart-
I’m always going to love the stage show the most but I’m still excited to see this.
This sounds so great you can hear the pain in his voice
Oh my god this touched me what a song about the shyness people feel it totally gets me when I was like that I am liking this movie already it makes me feel so wonderful and alive
Watching this made me realize I had social anxiety on my early childhood, then outgrew it in middle school when most kids start to get more anxious. I used to complain to my parents about not being able to hear my own thoughts and looking at the other kids like bees buzzing around my head.
It's like I imagined it! So happy Ben is doing this movie!!
i just wanna give him a hug
I fucking LOVE how they revamped the composition of the song. Very emphasized and lively. Ben also altered his vocal colour and style a bit. Can't wait to see it
THIS IS AMAZINGGGF IM CRYIIING 😭😭💖💖💖💖💖
you were not crying
@@coldLaugh who the hell are you to say that?
@@gaminggalaxies6633 “who the hell are you say that”
@@gaminggalaxies6633 a logical human being 😐 no one fucking cries over this shit
@@coldLaugh Well, Annie did, and given that she currently has 19 likes, 19 others probably did as well. So congrats, you're not only wrong. But hilariously wrong.
To answer the questions if this was recorded live, I definitely don’t think it was. You can tell this was recorded in a studio since at 0:34, there are two takes of the performance when his voice overlaps with itself. He most likely redid the “tried to speak but nobody can hear” part so they put the two clips together! :’D
It actually was recorded live according to the cast and crew of the movie
Yes it actually was recorded live, look it up
Not to old for the role, he's perfect for the role 👍
Honestly everyone complaining about the age thing just needs to stfu. This movie doesn't get made without Ben Platt as the lead. Tobey Maguire was 26/27 when he played teenage Peter Parker and looked like...a guy in his late 20s. Most of the actors in Friday Night Lights were in their 20s playing teens. This happens all the time in Hollywood. Either you accept it or you don't. If you don't buy it, then don't watch.
The actor who plays his friend Jared is 28!
@@DavidSoirez Right? All the "teens" are in their 20s. It's just whiny BP haters complaining.
@@lukasky03 Fr. People seem to forget also that Ben isn’t even the oldest actor to play a teen. The guy who played Montgomery (or Monty) in 13 RW WAS 34 when he last played him, and no one bitched then
Read what I wrote. I never said he was perfect for everything. Maybe it would have been nice to try to find a different actor for the film but it would have had close to zero chance of getting made.
I’m so hyped for this movie
Was this recorded live? I would love this with all of my heart if that's the case!
Yes it was 😃😃
@@alvarocarreno7772 that's amazing! Live recordings are the best
The musical numbers for the whole movie were recorded live 😍😍
Fuck the critics! I highly recommend this!
Love both the movie and the musical.
I must say movie changes made perfect sense!
Ready your tissue y'all!
what worries me is that they cut all the songs that had other peoples POVs in them (good for you, anybody have a map, etc) and like they only have him because he claimed that he was the only good evan but didnt cast anyone else from the original like laura dreyfuss
LIKE WHY DID THEY CUT THE SONGS???
I was so excited but now I don’t wanna see it anymore
That…isn’t the truth at all? He simply said if he wasn’t Evan, the movie probably wouldn’t have gotten made. Some songs had to be cut in order to focus on the main arc and shorten the musical down. That comes at the expense of other characters, yes, but if it’s to emphasize what is most important (the arcs of the most significant characters) then that’s okay. Casting ultimately doesn’t matter as long as they perform their role well.
I get that people are older playing younger. Kirsten Bell was Veronica Mars for years. It's just whoever did his makeup or maybe prosthetics, his face looks artificial. It's nothing against Ben. He could have shown up in full beard and I would love it, but the makeup is offputting it makes him look sick or something.
I agree with you. The makeup and the hair choice was definitely a strange combination that didn't seem to work as well. I think Ben is fantastic in the role but they could have done a better job making him over.
Yea. Casting him as the lead was silly. They should have put him in a smaller role like maybe as a teacher or something. Kind of like they did with Lin in In The Heights.
He has social anxiety and depression so in a way he is sick. When you are depressed and anxious and a loner you don’t really worry about your appearance anymore or that your clothes are clean or if your hair is a mess because essentially you have given up on presenting yourself to others. These disorders can definitely take a toll on a person to the point where they don’t look recognizable if left unchecked. The sad fact is that Evan has essentially no one and this is brought to the audiences attention early on. When he does end lying to the Murphy’s about his friendship with Connor he begins to believe it because he wishes he had friends or parents who paid attention to him, I mean Evan is still a bad guy, but he does try to redeem himself in the end. It’s such a heartbreaking story and I feel that Ben Platt portrays Evan as a socially awkward student pretty well considering.
He literally looks fine he looks young in my eyes, also ya gotta think that they probably did some magic editing tricks that help him de-age, so he is shorter and looks younger, along with the aforementioned makeup. But in my opinion he looks spot-on but looks as if im in the minority
@@robertrulez5391 If you are watching the movie you don’t really notice it while the story plays out
The voice crack tho
Ben Platt is as amazing as always. But I wish they could have done something more stylistic with the cinematography and editing. These days, there's a trend of making musical films look hyperealistic(eg, Les Miserables, Cats, etc.), so much so that some of the magic gets lost.
I'm not sure this is comparable to shows about unfortunate people singing to really happy melodies and cats wanting suicide.
You have a point but it's not liker there's a genre shift here. DEH has always tried to stay grounded and intimate. Les Mis and Cats really could not give two shits.
Personally, I think the cinematography is actually kind of perfect. It really captures Evan's feelings of being alone in a crowd, which is what the song is about, and as someone with social anxiety I think it really captures some things I have felt myself. It is quite different than most movies now though, and I can see how the style might not be for everyone though.
The stage version of this number is way more creative with its choreography and visuals too
@@hefoughtabear118 well there has to be more creativity when you are on a stage and have to convey a story while all the actors have to face the audience. With this movie, the camera can go anywhere and that means it doesn’t have to be as busy and as cramped as it sometimes seems onstage. It may not be the same level of creativity, but the creativity is absolutely there
@@allisynwalker6542 imo they could have done a lot more than just have long tracking shots revolving around evan and extras walking around him. They could have at least incorporated the intense lighting or his visually creative yet depressing perceptions of the people around him from the stage version's. Him standing alone in a crowd for the whole number is kinda lazy to me.
While the movie wasn’t as close to the play Ben platt truly did embody Evan Hanson but I do think he shouldn’t have been casted not just cause of his age but because for me it makes the other people in the cast of who did the play feel like they were a wash compared to him. Just doesn’t seem fair to me especially since his dad was the producer of the film
Think imma have to watch that again 👀
It boggles my mind why they autotuned and post-processed a professional broadway singer so much. So dumb. Also I love Ben Platt but the choice to cast him was extremely silly. They should have done a handoff type thing where they put him in a small role like they did for Lin in In The Heights. (Notice the difference between these two movies on Rotten Tomatoes)
Amen
There is literally no autotune used on this?
Me on the first day of school.
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You know Evan, you would have more friends if you'd stop singing in middle of the school's assembly.
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It sometimes sounded like autotune was put in. I dont understand why, because Ben's voice is flawless, he sang in a musical where everything is life and it sounded perfect, so why is it edited here?
Especially on the "waving" 's and the "woah" at the end
Didn't sound like autotune to me
@@williambcollins Listen to the beginning of the clip. It's extremely clear when there's no instrumentals, and it's also on the cast recording
I'll be asking myself that question for a long time. So many weird decisions were made for this movie.
I am fully aware of the fact that Ben Platt is gay, but I am crushing hard on him. His singing voice has me in an emotional trance. 🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍
Don’t listen to the critics. I watched the movie and I LOVED it. Yes there were 4 missing songs as you are aware of but they added two new great ones and it’s still amazing
This is what John cena listens too when he wakes up
Sooo.. like the working with lemons video?
So that's why it looks so familiar
Is that bad?
Oddly, despite these vocals being live, 0:00-0:08 sounds weirdly artificial.
Most likely tune correction (not auto tune)
If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? These words are very old. Seeing he decided to use them as a aspect of whatever you call this is called "biting"...
They think young kids will never pick up on this fact.
Do you need a paper bag to breathe in?
I got dizzy.
Damn, this movie was baaaaad.
Why his neck so veiny
trying singing your heart out, bet your veins will show.
I do feel like the makeup on Ben Platt is a bit much. It looks odd but I can't quite put my finger on it.
This movie is great. Ignore the dingbat critics. See the movie.
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Evan Hansen is basically me, im basically in the shadow, and nobody sees me except for my friends, everyone else just thinks I'm trash, where I'm not, they should see this, and think their desisions
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Watched it 3 times now.
Fuck the critics! This is so good!
Terrible movie. Terrible message with no consequences. Casting someone who looks 40 to play a teen was the worst choice. Rest of the cast was good. An honest reviewer .
God I hate seeing this fucking snap chat ad
For those who don't understand the age issue:
The problem is not that Ben is too old and the criticisms aren't that Ben is irreplaceable because his acting and voice are Evan. It is that he is older than he was when he originated the role. This breaks down into two parts:
1. Medium - stage and screen are fundamentally different.
Suspension of disbelief is higher on stage because audience and actors experience the same physics, so, the audience has to pretend with the actors. Actors represent characters and the two are inseparable.
Screen is lower because the reality is limitless, so, the audience does not have to think a lot to belief what is happening. Actors are characters but they are not the same people.
2. Time - time within a medium is different from time without. Within, time elapses but characters age only if relevant. Without, actors age in real time.
The fallacy lies in one actor bridging the gap by crossing two thresholds of suspension of disbelief. Stage Ben originated, then stopped, then started back up after the intervening years to be Film Ben. Which is to say, Stage Evan was a teen who shared a body with Ben, who aged 6 years causing Evan to age, in which Evan then switched mediums to be Film Evan who exists independently of Ben.
If that did not make sense,
1. That is the dissonance people feel about Ben's age manifested into words, so, it is supposed to sound confused.
2. Most questions regarding confusion are answered in the Medium and Time paragraphs if you read carefully.
In other words, the age of the actor does not matter only if the actor does not reprise the role in a different medium years later, regardless of the original medium because the comparison is solely based around that one actor reprising the role.
Regardless of age in the original medium, the comparison of the same actor will be a reminder, not that they are too old to play the roll, but that they are older than they were when they originated the role and that is what people mean when they say someone is too old.
Why our brains have a problem with this concept likely has to do with our pattern recognition abilities, the one thing humans excel at, and our memories being at odds with our ability to believe in things not real.
Honestly, for me the problem isn't his age or any of this. It's that his hair and makeup in this are so bad that he actually looks older than even his real age. I really think his makeup in this looks awful. He shouldn't have lost weight for it either because the slightly chubby cheeks also made him (and almost anyone else!) look younger.
@@Lizzo13 I actually think the opposite. I think they succeeded in making been look like an awkward teen with just enough of the wrong proportions and unattractive skin.
And then there's the wig which is questionable
@@jaybonn5973 Not a wig, it's his natural hair but styled differently
this is so awkwardly shot, and cut together
Yeah…
I’m really not feeling this movie. All the shots look really weird.
This version is in a totally different setting. The students moving around were a huge distraction and destroyed the poignancy of the piece. This should have been shot closer to the intent of the stage version. It lost the ensemble feel of the stage version. Ben, as much as you want it, you're not getting an Oscar for this, bud. Sorry.
Evan looks like he’s 30, convince me otherwise
No reason to do so. He should've been cast as someone younger imo
@@galacticbreadboi9796 Honestly, I think they made a slightly right choice. If they'd cast someone else, the fans will be disappointed because of the vocals anyways. It'll be hard to find somebody who can really play Evan.
Hmmmm for someone from Asia and I have seen alot of other actors not playing their age, Ben Platt looks the part! Don't let me dig Hollywood history on this... Madonna playing Evita and and winning a Golden Globe for an example!
Nah, compared to many other high-school movies where the age of the actors is really obvious and takes you out of the emersion, they definitely did a very good job at making Ben look the part. In my opinion he looks no older than someone in their early 20s and that's pretty damn good.
@@seradin8029 convinced.
His eyes are too close together and his hunched shoulders and forehead wrinkles aren’t helping
They really should've allowed someone else to take Evan's role
Way too old for that role. He looks like a grad student 🤷🏽♂️
Am I the only one who can hear his voice cracks?? This just isn't it y'all
He's 17! Voices crack at that age!
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What the fuck did you just say
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@@hunter55445 my exact thoughts 💀
Too much auto tune…
Is he using auto tune? I haven’t noticed, I thought those were echoes
There isn't any
I’m sorry but they definitely pitch corrected the last note a little bit
He's singing most the songs live for the movie.
I don’t think it’s auto tune. It might be slightly changed because it’s for a movie format but he sang all this live on Broadway first. He can actually sing like that and definitely doesn’t need auto tune.