What is God's Will? (Aquinas 101)
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“Lord, what wilt Thou have me do? Behold the true sign of a totally perfect soul: when one has reached the point of giving up his will so completely that he no longer seeks , expects or desires to do ought but that which God wills.”
-St. Bernard of Clairvaux
Our only claims on God are claims founded on what He has first given us. And so in this sense, we say that His mercy is the very pattern of His justice. In the end, we gaze steadily into the mystery of His will knowing that He is good, that He is loving, that He is just, and that He is merciful, for God is love-and that is a reality excelling our hearts.
God's Will (Aquinas 101) - Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P.
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Thank you for making this video. It took me at least 8-9 watches to fully understand every single part of it - PLEASE don’t “dumb” it down. Keep it the way it is! Love it!
Our pleasure!
I found that playing the video back at .75 speed helpful as well.
Thank you, I thought it’s just me having trouble understanding 😊
Thank you for making longer videos!
Cheers!
"His mercy is the very pattern of His justice" Wow, very wel put!
.,/*1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place...
Expounding the angelic doctor so well requires a deep understanding of the matter being explained and which you've done wonderfully well, Father Pine, May God increase in you His wisdom and knowledge for His glory!
Thanks for your comment! All the best to you and yours!
This video is so beautiful to listen to and easy to understand. Fr Pine, you are incredibly good at explaining the content in such a simple way! I am going to tell everybody about this series. Thank you for making this video series as it helps me review the Summa. Keep it available please. If only people can learn this and see that they can even use it for prayer.
We're so happy the series has been helpful -- thank you for your support! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment, and may the Lord bless you!
Well what does the video say
2:08 I think if I heard this explanation years ago I'd left Calvinism sooner 😂
Tha was just brilliant, I got back to this point to hear it twice.
So real bro. Being a deconstructing Calvinist, that point stuck out to me as well. I’m finding that the Catholic and Thomistic worldview is so robust, much more so than the reformed tradition. It really feels like it’s on another level of understanding.
As you point out Calvinism here, as a renewed Catholic, I hear an argument for predetermined paths. Help me understand why this is different.
Thank you Father, God's nature can be seen in nature, some creations were more beautiful than the others like the flowers but all of them give glory to the creator by blooming in the fields, or forests, even in places where no eyes can see them and appreciate them. The poem "Rhodora" So that we should not complain of what is given to us. Let's just ask God what we want work and sacrifice for it and be thankful of what He gives. Because all is grace. Just trust that God is in charge. Even if I become the least person in heaven, I will still be happy because God took notice of me and because of His great love lifted me up in heaven to be with Him for all eternity. Thank You Lord Jesus Christ for l the love. May I be able to share this love to other people too. Amen.
I am a big fan of you Fr. Pine. May God continue filling your life with his all knowing love. Thank you for continuously sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us. God bless you.
what a great piece of theology, thank you
Fr. Gregory Pine is a blessing!
Thank you for this video!
May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you!
Beautifully told /delivered,thanks!
I loved it, thank you Fr. 🙏🏾
These lectures fit well with my reading of the intro essays in the NABRE, third edition.
This is beyond gold! 🙏♥️🙌 Thanks so much for posting
You're most welcome! Thanks for watching!
Loved the video! Got goosebumps the whole time
An eyeopener for sure , will follow
Thank you so much for the video, Fr. Gregory Pine :D
Great video. Thanks!
This explanation is easy to understand. I'm lost in my own interpretation. Thank you Father for the explanation.
Thank you Father
Of course!
A lovely video,thanks Fr.uplifting n encouraging too, also showing God's loving care of us .
“Although in relation to the foreknowledge and decree of God, the first cause, all things come to pass immutably and infallibly, yet, by the same providence, He ordereth them to fall out according to the nature of second causes, either necessarily, freely, or contingently.” - Westminster Confession of Faith 5.2
Thank you for the video. Pure canonical and orthodox theology. Thanks so much, it is so good to listen to true Doctrine from the true Church, the one Jesus Himself founded. God didn’t need Man. He created man and woman because He is infinitely good. But He didn’t feel alone or incomplete. And He sent His own Son to the world . He is a eternal, the Three persons of the Holy Trinity have been there since ever and forever. It is impossible in this life to understand the mistery of Trinity, or the Virginity of our Inmaculate Mother.
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly CZcams video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you
I thought that watching this video would clarify some things for me. I guess I was wrong, because I’m more confused now then I was before watching this
This is a really excellent video. You have taken very complex notions and made them understandable and accessible to most people. In fact, I would say the average person listening to this Vlog may not realize how well you have summarized the great doctor, St Thomas Aquinas.
Thank you for your comment.
I am am so grateful for the Thomistic Institute presentations. I make a point of sharing this gift with others.
Thank you very much for making this video. I found it very enlightening and I can't thank you enough for spreading the Faith this way. God bless!
Thank you for doing what you are foing.
Our joy!
Love is the First movement of the Will! God works on Justice is founded in Mercy! K Thank you Father for explaining the Theology of God in a most simplistic way understandable by youths and old alike! More of this enlightening videos! Our minds and hearts are starting to be opened to Gods Love and the Amazing Grace of the Holy Spirit and understanding in Depth the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Holy Scriptures k!
1 John 5:3 - shows that Christians keep God's Ten Commandments, proving they love God and their neighbors.
John 14:15 - shows we keep all Ten to show we love Christ.
catholicism teaches contrary Exodus 20:4-6 and 8-11.
catholicism isn't Christianity.
@@tony1685Catholicism keeps all commandments.
@@alonsoACR why didn't you actually read what i wrote???
Exodus 20:4-6, your 'church' still makes and bows to idols, statues and body parts.
Exodus 20:8-11, your 'church' pretends the 1st day is the LORD's day, while both OT and NT prove the Sabbath is.
so no. this 'church' does not keep God's Ten Commandments.
Fantastic, both in substantive content and production value!
Thank you so much! May the Lord bless you!
God wills freedom to unfold... freely. Great presentation!
Thanks you!
Excellent video ,as ever! Thanks.clearly explained n have benefited from this knowledge gained,from knowing more how God looks after creation n uses us n the God given talents he has given each of us!
Awe yea, awesome work!
Thank you!
This is the truth but highly intellectual discussion to put it simply God is Love God is Just God is Merciful God is Good and God is Light for the common simple minded people to understand whom the Good Lord God only gave one talent k!
Buenísimo!
My will hath led me here.
O Mary who art thou is conceived without sin, please pray for us who recourse to thee.
Amen.
I must rewind. My timing of my prayer distracted me and I’m lost in the subject’s great weight in the relatively abstract. None are perfect and God has provided me with rewind on a key life lesson. The Dominicans seem to understand the will to understand and the flaws in not being present in the moments of clarity. Merciful is the encounter with divine patience upon the limits of our living experience.
Maybe I should just stay in my lane as a roofer, dad, husband, and simple man of simple and absolute faith despite my unworthiness to know such a thing that grants life everlasting. Praise to you O’ Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
.,/*1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place...
Well said
Wow! This one and the last video were amazing, profound and, for me, mindblowing. This one on God's will, I'm watching several times!!
Love this video. I had to rewind back many times as I was taking notes to help explain God’s will to non-believers and their misconception of it. Thanks be to God for Wisdom and St. Thomas pray for us.🙏🏾
1/*1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place...
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@@coolservantjesusswag2936 could you elaborate what did you didn't understand?
God is Love! Love according to St Thomas is just wanting the Good of the others! K
I recalled a problem I had reading Dante's Inferno listening to this account of punishing out of love. I must confess: I am still confused by eternal forms of punishment being caused by love. I love these videos. Thanks.
Pray and fast for me to discern what God's true mission for me.
Deep.
AMEN.
Gods will to us all men his children that we all use our endowned intellect and will to seek Love, love is defined by St Thomas Aquainas as Wanting the Good of the other person! God wants us to fight Evil and sow Goodness, Goodseeds around us! For Evil will proliferate if Goodness is absent! Evil is defined as the absence of Good and vice versa! K
Father Pine thank you for these videos ... how do you make something so complicated able to be understood? the trait of a good teacher... of course you are a Dominican ha
GO TI institute! Love your work! Keep it up. One thing. Maybe you guys could do a print out or downloadable page that includes key terms to a basic level Thomistic verbiage. These talks are easily digestible but the Podcasts can become a bit “too” academic in the use of certain basic key philosophical and theological terms. Let me know what your thoughts are ! Love your work!
We're hoping that the introductory videos to the series (See Aquinas 101 Playlist) will serve that purpose. Fr. Gregory Pine also has a podcast coming out next month on Pints with Aquinas that covers some basic metaphysical jargon. But, in addition to that, you're right, we could definitely use more work on the introductory level. We'll look into it!
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Awesome. I love what you do, how you do it and the effect it’s already had on myself and many of my peers (mostly college students that are atheist or vague agnostics) it’s literally incredible and I see the fruits of these videos already bearing in peoples lives. I pray for you everyday and will continue to as the world gets more inclined to see everything in light of reason your work is literally without parallel. God bless you to the fullest of what that means and Merry Christmas as well.
@@SedContraApologia Thanks Ian! Super encouraging! All the best to you and yours!
I agree completely with Ian's recommendation. John Harvey
@@JCHjr Another good resource is Matt Fradd's You Can Understand Aquinas. Sing up to receive emails on his website www.mattfradd.com and you'll get a free copy. Cheers!
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I discovered a very brilliant Professor, Eleanor Stump.
Has she ever given a presentation at the Thomaston Institute? She appears to know St. Aquinas in depth.
Beauty, colour , phenomenology of personhood, being, you gotta wonder 🤔❤
Father Pine would have been a tremendous character in the show supernatural
Beautiful explanation. The love of God is also expressed in our creation. Since we are made in his image it is important for us to express this image of love in at least the best capacity we can. In marriage and the production of the family, to our neighbours and fellow man to Gods creation and most importantly back to God since that cements our love in the aforementioned. But since we are made free by God and we are finite and not perfect we deviate from his plan through sin causing damage to ourselves and the world both physically and spiritually. We go the way of the fallen angels, just not as complete but massively destructive nonetheless. Is this description accurate?
"God is" => L💖ve!
Very good,and well explained with energy. I'm a little les sure about the killing of the Criminal whio caused the death of another human being?
God's will is to act according to the commandments of the divine laws in the essence of love.
So, if God is omniscient, he knows since the beginning of time who will be punished, why, when and how. What does this tell us about his will, if he can not do otherwise what he knows he will do.
@The Tomistic Institute Once again, dear brothers of the TI: THANKS A LOT for these wonderful free sharing of the solid thomistic teaching in such an attractive way. In the previous 31 videos I've followed of this course I've always been delighted as a simple student of theology that I am. In this one, though, the 32nd, there are a couple of things I have difficulty with and will be grateful of further explanantion departing from the point that it's quite difficult to explain in a short video dense mysteries:
1) Connection between knowledge or intellect and will in God.
2) What concept of (divine?) punishment do you illustrate? (4:30-4:41)
In my humble understanding, the assertion: "Since God has (is!) intellect, it follows that He has a will" (0:48) would need a bit more developement. How does it work that sponteneaous unfolding (1:17)? In a strange way - certainly strange! (1:20) - we can say that God's nature fits Him for Himself, and so He gravitates
accordingly - any help to make me understand?
I think I understand correctly God's antecedent and consequent will, and I imagine that the example Saint Thomas gives about the judge and the criminal fitted in his time, culture, society... but I need to say that the example seems to me today far from being the best one.
THANKS BE TO GOD, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (n. 2267) refuses today (since August 2018) in every single case death penalty. press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2018/08/02/180802a.html
I accept that, here, it's not a question of death penalty but of explanantion of God's will. But the subject - God's will - is also connected with "punishment'" as an explanation of God's love's expression. That hurts!!! I cannot think of God even allowing punishment, as willing to hurt someone who would have done evil in order to try to get him / her back to good.
I don't think that any exterior force may fruitfully help, or impose any correction in truth to anybody. In the best case, it would get to create a change from morally bad to adequate behaviour. But, would it really change the heart and soul of the person? And if we got to a correct behaviour but just lived machanically, what would be the gain of the punishment for that person?
I can only think, and believe, in God's infinite love and desire of inner, interior conversion of the sinner through personal choice of penance. Certainly, attracted to pennance by divine grace, sustained in it by the strength of the Spirit, but not by "punishment". If you wish, I think "punishment" wouldn't be active expression of God's love, but the inherent consequence of sin (=refusal of God's love). The punishment that suffered the 'prodigal' son was not inflicted by the prodigal father, but by his own choice with all its consequences. I only see the "punishment" of the father in welcoming the son with joy, embracement, hugs, kisses and feast as soon as he shows up to the father.
Thanks a lot. Keep this wonderful job. God bless.
You're welcome! To your questions, you might look at (1) ST I qq. 14 and 18 (aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-ia#TOC17), and (2) the distinction of all evil into moral fault and punishment in ST I q. 48, a. 5 (aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-ia-q-48#FPQ48A5THEP1). St. Thomas also devotes a great deal of attention to punishment in the first question of his De Malo.
@@ThomisticInstitute Thank you for your attention and references for further reading! God bless!
I think Fr has brought out some very good points.
God is His being, existence, will, act, object (approx 1:30). I think we are unable to recognise God because we search for someone/something behind the being, existence, will, act and object. We miss God even though He is revealing Himself right in front of us as we are looking beyond. To see God, we got to stop searching (for proofs) and start recognising.
(Approx 1:10) God does not need perfecting - no appetite (for more) in God. Because God is already perfect and is perfection itself. To me, perfection = nothing is lacking.
Based on the above, God could not loves someone more as this implies there is something lacking in those with less. If someone has certain things and others don't, these are just the state of being, the way God is. Our problem is trying to search for meaning when there is none. If I exercise my freewill and certain consequences result, it is just the state of being - not something better or worse.
If we are able to assuage our appetite for more, we come to rest in God.
Is it God's fault since He has endowed me with this appetite for more? No. One way to look at it is if the appetite is not there, something is lacking - not perfect. The problem is I never use my freewill to manage the appetite and this is probably the cause of many problems. Not God's fault.
(Approx 2:03) Gods joins His will to those ways that He wills to exist. To me, this is the definition of God's love - God unites with what He wills to exists. God's love is not a superior form of human liking something or someone. This is my way of understanding the Holy Trinity (the Eucharist) and things that happens in life.
BTW, I do not think God wills the way human wills (exercising the freewill). God's will is the being of things (essence??). We can bring about the existence by our freewill.
Hope I understand accurately.
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Thank you Father Pine for really helping n understanding Who What the Nature of our God to us simple folks ordinary people that For our lifetime we are continually perpetually longing and gazing our Good Lord God up above in Heaven for His Goodness Justice Loving n Merciful Father God and all of us His Children! Our Lord Jesus Christ Loves the company of the children when He was here on Earth. In one instance He told to His Apostles pointing to the children and said If anyone cause these little one corruption it is better for him to put a millstone on his neck and cast at the bottom of the sea! We all should approach God in a child like manner pure simple and trusting. When Nicodemus asked Jesus Christ how can i enter the Kingdom of Heaven our Lord Jesus Christ replied unless a man be born again he cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven! K
Another Godly nature besides Love is God is Light! Hes first Word in creating cause of the universe and all the things in it is Let there be Light! K
Interesting: I hear theology, but I understand nature sciences. :D
Question: If will is defined as one's desire for something that is good for oneself, is concupiscence not included in a person's will?
It is astounding, really, to think of the enormous library of theology, of canon law, that all depends on one premise really: that jesus, the ragged apocalyptic rabbi, was a god, and was resurrected. Aged 12, I had noticed that the resurrection defied all science, was inconsistent with it. An hour of reflection under a tree in the park instead of attending mass, I knew that the whole enterprise was make believe. Of course at 12, I had no idea how much effort had been expended on elaborating a false premise.
God has free will and He 'always' loves and 'never' does wrong. So, why He does not give the same free will to human beings also.
Then, we will also 'always' love and will 'never' do anything wrong.
What is the problem in giving such kind of free will to us so that we never commit evil acts and retain our free will also (just like the fact that God has free will but he 'never' does anything wrong)?
That God loves us, we can know only by supernatural revelation, i.e. through Jesus Christ. God is absolute, he is not really related to the world although the world is totally related to and dependent upon him. How can God be lovingly related to the world? The Christian message answers: God loves his creature with the same love that exists from all eternity between the Father an the Son, i.e. God as the Holy Spirit. The world is being taken up into the love between God and God. But this can only be known by faith in supernatural revelation. Jesus came in order to reveal to us that the may partake in His relationship to the Father. As Meister Eckhart said: "God has but one love. And with the very same love, by which the Father loves the Son, he also loves me."
1:51 an ff wow
I'm aware it's 1 year late, but in light of the subject matter... is hell a form of God's love? vis a vis consequential? And if God is love, does it also mean He is feeling? with all the human feelings that come along with it...?
i'm totally lost....
So, God never loses any of his muchness, since he is muchness, right?
I feel overwhelmed.. Interlect is not distributed equally haha..
God is Love, and, well...
What is Love? (Baby, don't hurt me)
I feel dumb I don't get any of this
Why would God make Lucifer?
Who then falls
And let him be in the garden to tempt Eve?
Why did God ask Adam where he was?
Why did God choose Noah, when Noah decided to then curse his own grandson?
God did not create Lucifer (Satan) as fallen, but with free will as a good angel. His pride led to a voluntary abuse and corruption of that freedom into sin/rebellion. God permitted temptation to manifest human integrity/dependence on grace over nature alone. He foresaw redemption's necessity while respecting rational creaturely agency. Adam hid in fear/shame knowing the divine-human communion was fractured. Yet in mercy God called so Adam could acknowledge wrong freely and turn again to his Maker for clemency. Noah found favor as uniquely righteous in his generation though imperfect like all men. His later lapse reflects how even saints are but pilgrims aided by God's guidance. Still God can bring good from our every free choice, however misguided, and Noah's obedience saved humanity.
*There is no 'common good'* - depicted in the example - as Thomas will agree with Aristotle unless that phrase is placed back to it's origin in God.
It is an attribute of secularization to delude the people with notions of a 'common good' - when interests are in fact _partial_ and to be negotiated.
We murder tyrants. because we understand that their actions may not be aligned with the interests of the people.
That realization is not foolproof, just as the law can be bent and twisted against it's purpose of maintaining the peace - but it puts acts into perspective.
The schoolboy operates according to the book - including the Summa - the grown man implores with grim seriousness - and faith - the will of God in himself.
Why can’t our parish priest give sermons like this instead of appeasement, to make people “feel good”, keep them coming and fill the church coffers, but never speak of judgment, penance, reconciliation! Sad
Too much focus on keeping those parish numbers up in the US. it has lead to a severe lack of backbone
4:15 if the judge was the man's creator and created them knowing they would commit the crime, the judge would be at least as responsible for the crime. The idea that the judge can punish their creation for something he knew the creation would do seems unfair, especially if the judge is all powerful and could easily create their creation in such a way they do not commit the crime.
In light of all this, how do I answer my daughter, 46 years old and agnostic, when she asks if God is love, how does God allow that a child be maliciously raped and subsequently allowed to suffer, or worse, dies because of the bad will of another? I don't know what to say anymore.
Moral evils permit exercising free choice, whose removal would compromise human dignity; and endless privations would make virtue, human/divine union impossible.
@@alphazero5614 Thank you. Great explanation.
How do you know that God will's what he wills
Why the sign of trinity?
Thanks.
To reduce will to “intellectual appetite” is a reductionism. The will is a new reality phenomenally distinct from intellect. I am not sure Thomas makes this reductionism that you attribute to him.
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God will never send you another’s husband .
Sounded more like a rant and you didn't explain it enough.
Any wealthy Christians want to help a poor brother out? I have mental illness, and I need money to live, or else I'm going to not end up so well.
I guess those of you going "wow, what insight!" can explain a) why God decided it would be 1200 years before he willed that someone should come along to explain, and b) why his insights were to be known only by a tiny minority until now? It's hardly universal messaging, is it?
I'm lost.
brain hurts
Let us know if you have specific questions!
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Well you put the exemple of the judge but the judge does not see in advance like god that the person is going To be sentenced To death due To his sin ( murder ) . Can we say that some are predestined in gods eyes To do horrible thing and be condemned ? Because god is omniscient and the judge is not.
Why would he let him live if only To be condemned
The distinction between God's antecedent & consequent wills, makes God sound:
1. not ontologically simple
2. in potency, so not in act
3. changeable
4. too like mortals, who change constantly
5. insincere
6. Jesuitical
7. deceitful
8. unreliable
And that in turn makes God's Love sound bad in all those ways, and also favours Nominalism.
And, historical facts are a very powerful argument that God's Love either has no intelligible content, or that this Divine Love is mere words & no more, or that God's Love allows God to do nothing to help and protect those whom God is said to love. It would be far less troublesome if people stopped claimng that God is agapē-love. This claim introduces massive cognitive dissonance - it is extremely unhealthy to insist that X (in this case, the proposition that God is agapē-love) is true, and even *dē fidē* when history makes this proposition either doubtful, or meaningless, or nonsensical. Where was God's Almighty Saving Love during the Stalinist Terror, or during the Nazi Shoah, or during the massive slaughter under Mao, or during the genocide against the Serbs in Fascist Croatia during WW2, or during the Rwandan genocide ? Such events - many of them committed by Christians - make talk of God's agapē-love utterly meaningless. God saved not one one of these tortured & murdered souls from the horrors inflicted on them; what sort of Almighty Good Divine Irresistible Loving Saviour allows that ? To call God a Saviour is a very bad joke, and deceitful.
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Ask yourself why not take a wasted moment and listen to a shaped instruction that will stay with your upcoming decisions and open mind,
/*1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place...m
1) God, as pure act, exists out of necessity. But creation stems from God's superabundant generosity, not compulsion. He freely willed to share his goodness.
2) While foreseeing sin's inevitability given creaturely freedom, God also saw redemption's possibility through the Cross. Hell is not God's will or desire, but rather mankind's abandonment of divine love through willful rejection of grace.
3) God in his justice could not force relationship or condone sin and its eschatological consequences. But in mercy he provided a remedy - the means of salvation for all responsive to sanctifying grace. His goodness sought not bare existence but spiritual unity with his creation.
4) To refrain from creating out of concern for hell alone would negate God's beneficence and desire to multiply being. Rather, he accompanies his gifts of nature and freedom with sufficient salvific aid, having overcome sin's worst through Christ's paschal mystery. In this light, creation remains consistently good in its divine intention.
Why God created me? He Will's the good. It is the character of good God to create good things. Can he exist without loving? No. How did he love before the creation of universe? He loved his Son who is co-substantial with Father. If son was not with God we can't say that God has will. He created world out of necessity to love.This is my theory. Good luck🍀Thanks for St Augustine who says that if there's foot, also necessitate footprint. Then creation is without will.
There is no “before” Creation because God created space and time simultaneously. His eternity is not just existing for an unlimited amount of time,rather He transcends time itself because time is His creation
@@gabrielc1779 We can't deny time. In the beginning ***.God shared eternity to man . This doesn't mean man is eternal. He has beginning. Man can forget that he has a beginning and this amnesia is the root of Original Sin. Your answer may deepen this forgetfulness. Co-eternity of the Son is the only explanation which proves that God created not out of necessity. At least we have to solve the problem of Freedom and necessity. Thank You for replying. I am growing through these replies.
@@gabrielc1779 There can be "before" creation not talking about time, rather, logically, something can be prior to time, for when time was not created, God existed, does that mean there was nothing before time? Yes according to the order of time, however, no, according to logical order
God is love? Tell that to the guy who lost his family in an earthquake.
You are presupposing that ‘God is Love’ only applies to this world. That’s not a convincing point of contention to make to a Christian as we are assured by God’s love that the next life is better than this one. That argument would only work for someone that is clung to this material earth.
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Why there is no objection to Thomas's idea here? Dogmatism as it is.
This isn't really dogmatic. This is an argument based on reason that derives from biblical dogma.
God is man made and boy it shows
You say the word "right? too many times after sentences when doing live unscripted talks, like when someone uses the word, um. You are very intelligent (it shows) and you use alot of big words. I need a dictionary.... I don't feel like you have to use that language so strongly because you loose your listeners. It's just to deep. Simple, in my opinion is down to a level that most listeners can relate. Again...My opinion... I'm sure you are a very sincere person but you lost me as a listener. My opinion probably doesn't matter to you. Someone told me your podcast was very interesting but I was so lost in your deep conversations. God bless you.
This doesn't explain why little children are abused, starved, and tortured to death by their parents, which is well reported in the news at times. God is love doesn't seem to fit that at all.
Explain how?
The issue with suffering is not whether God's actions seem personally "fair" or make us happy. As the Creator, God owes us nothing. Rather, the question is: does what God commands align with right reason about moral rules? If God's natural law and scriptures teach virtue, yet evils seem to contradict this, there is a problem. But evil acts don't negate God, if two things are true: 1) God still offers us guidance and grace through the Church to live well despite hardships. 2) Nothing God ordains in nature removes our freedom to choose the good, as reason shows it.
So the difficulty isn't that evils don't fit our ideas of a perfect world. It's whether God's entire ordering of reality upholds the moral truths we discern using intellect. As long as this is so, God stays righteous and faithful even if much is still unclear. Our job isn't explaining why all serves us, but choosing obedience to the light we have. In the end, evils won't have the last word. God will complete what was intended for our sanctification and union with love. This is what really matters for salvation.