The way I built the Celtics last year was wrong - Danny Ainge | The Jump
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- Rachel Nichols sits down with Boston Celtics general manager Danny Ainge to talk about Kyrie Irving's exit, his struggles building the roster in 2018-19 and having too many players on a similar level (Kyrie, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Al Horford, Terry Rozier), attracting Kemba Walker in 2019 NBA free agency, being absent big men with the departures of Horford and Aron Baynes, his knack for making impressive trades, Hayward's broken hand injury, his own health, and Walker's impact on the team (the interview was recorded prior to Walker's neck injury).
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"We do fair trades"... Danny Ainge could literally play the Devil haggling for your soul in a movie.
Been a fan of Kemba since his freshman year at UConn. Glad he finally gets to play on a contender
as a Hornets fan, I completely concur
Randy Miller still makes them a contender lol because a team from the East has to make it the playoffs 😂😂
yes I always wanted him home in N.Y... but atleast in Boston he can show who he really is... a SUPERSTAR
Seriously wish it could have happened sooner, but better late than never.
We are not contenders though.Not with that team.
Our best players are terribly inconsistent.
Danny Ainge trades players like he’s playing 2K video game basketball.
😂😂😂
my guy you could have just said 2K
H L Just wanted to be clear to people that don’t play video games.
Dude don’t ever doubt Danny Ainge ever again just think about where the Celtics would be if they drafted number one pick Markel instead of Jayson Tatum🤔🤔
Boston Chris He was gonna draft Tatum anyway
Lol how to win a trade:
Trade a player to a bad team.
Rip rozier.
Rozier ain’t trippin lol. He got super paid
Do you have brain??? Charlotte has better records compared last year....Brooklyn is now 5-1 after the Clown got injured for doing lots of circus shot......
BS - Rozier is averaging 17/4/4 in his first contract as a starter and has been smart and competent enough to play with along
another young and talented ball-handler in Devonte' Graham.
mark fourtwenty even with that, Charlotte ain’t making the playoffs and are still a very bad team
@@perhaps9460 everyone is expecting it genius..what no has expect is for Brooklyn to stink because of Kyrie...And now that the Clown is injured, they are 5-1....
Great leaders take responsibility when things aren’t going well, they give praise to others when things are going well.
He's completely wrong here (well, not wrong but lying ), the roster was constructed well as evidenced by nearly everyone picking them to win 60+ and the East, it was up to the coach and players to make it work. But he's doing at least 2 things - taking whatever blame he can off his coach who it's more impt to have a good working relationship w/ players, and showing players they'll support them no matter what, even after they're delusional conceited a-holes who are most responsible for the team underachieving. That's both a solid GM and one who can take the long-term approach b/c he's sure of his job security.
Danny is a mastermind; he could've started some controversy. Instead, he takes responsibility and squashes any beef.
You're absolutely right, and this is why he's one of the very best GMs of the whole league.
At this point, when looking to what happens to the Nets for the season and the good vibes around the Celtics, it appears pretty clearly that Kyrie has a very significant responsibility for what went wrong last year. Today's Nets look like last year Celtics in the way that there's no consistency and instead of licking their wounds and patiently wait for adversity to abate, BAM, something stupid appears in the media.
Ainge would not be seriously blamed for being a savage towards Kyrie for that, but he refrains himself doing so because there's also nothing to win for that. He comes out as a respectable man by taking the blame, and a big winner PR wise.
Danny Ainge has integrity. It looks weird in today’s age
I agree. The lack of integrity is a problem in all sports and needs to be addressed by the NBA or else it's going to turn into a flop show like soccer.
Yeah he had real integrity trading away Isaiah Thomas after his sisters death so he didn’t have to pay him. FYM integrity?
I Feel Like Yeezus it was the right decision. Isaiah and Danny don’t hold hard feelings to each other. You shouldn’t either man ☘️
Integrity first, Service before self, Excellence in all we do.
🤡
The problem is Kyrie wasn’t able to sacrifice enough to make that team a true winner
The problem was not kyrie, it was the others.
@Scouts Honor he played trash the last 4 games of the playoffs. Historically bad too
@@esketitesketit1658 Kyrie is part of the problem. In fact, a major part of it. Look at the Nets right now without Kyrie. They are on a roll.
True.danny doesn't need to put all the blame on himself like he is! Kemba makes up for kyrie to me already
Scouts Honor can we get a source for that quote?
So we just gonna ignore the fact Rachel pretty much said bill Walton’s a pothead? 😭
He does live in LA
He’s a huge pothead lol
jb2._ ik just funny that they acknowledged it when espn is owned by Mickey Mouse 😭😭😭
Kevin not only that but the 1st clip of Walton that they show is with snoop dogg & the 2nd in a tie die T shirt 😂
I think Danny is also talking about Terry Rozier here. That man should have been traded last offseason.
Ye as they lost him for nothing
Nathan Poulos sign and trade for kemba, but hey 🤷🏼♂️
@City Beautiful Attractions They got Kemba for Rozier and dont replace Terry.
@City Beautiful Attractions They were able to get Kemba because they did a sign and trade. It was Rozier for Kemba and a future second round pick. You read that right, Kemba plus a future pick for Rozier. They didn't have the cap space to outright sign Kemba for the max and Charlotte would've had to compete with the other teams for Rozier in free agency and Boston likely would've matched any offer if they didn't trade for Kemba. It worked out for both teams. Kemba would be playing in NY or Dallas and Rozier would still be in Boston if it weren't for the sign and trade.
Danny had turned down a trade for ibaka for rozier either last off season or 2 years ago in the 17-18 season
Rachel really does a great job and you know she has respect because she tells people in their face the stuff she says on air about them.
I know, it must of been hard for her to say that she thinks he is the best GM in the league essentially and that it isn't fair for other GM's to do trades with him. How would Danny react to that? lol
"Not the Bill Walton kind of greens" LOL good one Rachel!
Danny Ainge was a great player, a better coach, and one of the best GMS ever.
Ian Victorine the best
I love having ainge for a GM he could trade for anything. I heard he sold some binoculars to a blind man one time
True leaders accept their mistakes so that they can improve and be better.
Danny Ainge was a great college player and was athletic, could shoot the lights out and was so competitive. His length of the floor race through the Notre Dame defense and walk off layup over Orlando Woolridge's outstretched hand was so clutch. But going to the Celtics with Bird and McHale he was passing most the time, not shooting...a hard reality. lol
Kyrie is the guy your daughter wants to marry
*Kemba is the guy you know your daughter should marry
(This is about on the court analysis not a character attack)
Danny is trying to say the right thing here but all of us Celtics fans have know for over a year exactly what or um “who” the problem was for us
Yeah obviously. The fans know it all. Why? Because they're experts right?
He was Humbled. Good for him.
Yes, imagine Kemba with last year roster... Celtics would have been lit
Danny will never cater to what the fans and the legacy deserves. It takes knowing what pieces fit the puzzle jigsaw or not.
Kyrie was clearly the problem. The Nets were something like 4-7 with Kyrie, and now the Nets are 9-8 with Dinwiddie running the offense. Kyrie is not coachable in Brad Steven’s system which is oriented around ball movement and unselfishness.
Pippen even mentioned that nobody respected Kyrie enough, they were challenging him, and not accepting or happy with their role like the Lakers are doing right now. He hadn't earned that in the league, especially from a team who went to game 7 with LeBron without him. Adding Hayward into the starting lineup early didn't mix well with the players who felt they should start.
Landon Troyer it’s hard to respect a guy who doesn’t trust his teammates enough to ever pass them the ball in the big moments. Kemba is the same kind of player Kyrie is except he isn’t selfish and he’s a good leader who wants his teammates to grow and take their opportunities. Kemba is the definition of a great teammate. Kyrie is the exact opposite.
the nets have beaten some bottom feeder teams since Kyrie has been out so people need to stop that 4-7 with Kyrie BS. Kyrie is not the best leader and it will help when there is a clear alpha in KD next yr. he is the least of the Nets problems and the slow start should be expected with so many new pieces.
What teams have they faced? Bulls? Knicks? Hornets? Kings? Cavs? 😂😂😂 and a 20 Point loss to the only Playoff contender during that stretch...are you implying they’re doing better against the same type of teams they beat with Irving including Rockets?
Cormel all I know is the nets have won more without Kyrie than with him. That’s all I’m saying
It’s really too bad it didn’t work out for the Celtics last year. But I’m just glad they have a clean slate this season to do big things. Let’s go Celtics
I appreciate D.A humility for admitting his fault of putting unfitting pieces around Kyrie.
Good to see some honest reflections.
Well said Danny, you were able to see last season & learn from last year. And you played with the best 2 forwards who played the game. Larry & McHale. U understand that you have to have one leader of a team and the rest followers.
Great interview! This is good content. Could careless about players shoes or lebron tacos
Love Danny taking responsibility, love this guy
6:55 - 7:00 LOL, Rachel Nichols.
Danm right he was wrong and thank God he’s admitted now. Boston Celtics forever ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Nets are 4-1 without kyrie... and Boston went 12-3 and 12-4 without him during his 2 seasons
Love Danny Ainge
A lot of times Rachel gets to my nerves, but she knows her stuff. The closing was spot on. As for Ainge, he knows his stuff too. Last year was unfortunate, but given some time he is gonna build a contending team. Still Giannis will rule the East this year, he is just that good.
Danny is humble for taking the blame. Kyrie’s drama ruined the team from the inside out
Daniel Theis against in an TV Segment nice!
Ainge did so much right, but his biggest mistake is not offering the assets for a guy like AD or PG or even Butler. You combine superstar players now, no need to wait. Celtics should be a mini dynasty right now.
Jackie somewhere punching the air after Danny said it wasn't kyries fault
yeah, but ofc he's gonna say that. he almost HAS to say that. everyone with eyes knows what the problem was last year and why they're so much better this year. He even said it at the end, 8 guys all thought they were equal to one another and no one took control. Who do you think should have taken control of that leadership spot??? I'll tell you who has it now. Kemba Walker
Danny Ainge is being a professional. But Kyrie is to blame. How can you not blame Kyrie with how everything ended...
Of course he's gonna say that lol. He has to. Anybody with a brain can see how much Kyrie affected that team.
nah. kyrie and jackie are cool, she’s been writing great things about him for years including this past story. but doesn’t surprise me that kyrie fan boys only pay attention to the one line they didn’t like and are trying to make it out like she hates him. you’re fake news
On hindsight, it does take a star 2 years to recover from horrible injury. If Hayward played last season as he is now, the Celts would already have had a legitimate chance at overcoming the Raptors then
this man literally said kyrie wasn’t the problem but i’m still seeing so many people trying to place all the blame on him. everyone around kyrie is constantly telling saying how kyrie is misunderstood and unrightfully getting blamed for what happened in boston but the media and it seems general public now still decide to nitpick and hate on him for no reason
thats danny ainge, he once bit a dudes ear off, he was one of the meanest players in the game.
Go Celtics!
Danny really need get somebody like a big man
True,, they won't stand a chance against the Raptors or the Bucks in the playoffs.
RealBlessed not a tru big tho. They should go after Steven Adams. That would be so beneficial.
@@MrShadow205 the raps?! Hahaha they good but they aint that good as a contender and celts already beat Mil and Raps this season
@@edwintaveras1986 They did that last season too. Look how that turned out.
@Deep Thoughts Did you even read my comment? LOL
I swear when Kemba and Gordon are fully healthy, we gon dominate like we were during our 10 game W’s
Bill Walton is a character! hahahahaha...
Rachel Nichols is such a great analyst
Kyrie is what prime Carmelo was. A super talent that doesn't know how to win because the only thing bigger than their talent is their ego.
This isn’t the first time everyone didn’t get along, there were a bunch of problems.
Since some of you are young, let me remind you all of something: Danny Ainge is one of the best college athletes EVER.
When Ainge graduated from BYU he was an all American in football, basketball, AND baseball. He was actually drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays and played baseball for a few games.
Then the Boston Celtics offered him a contract, so he quit MLB to play in the NBA. Then he became a one time all star and 2 time world champ. Then he became part of the Celtics front office and guided the Celtics to another title in 2008! Ainge is a fucking WINNER...
Ainge is saying it's his fault that he didn't trade Kyrie in the beginning of the last season.
He basically said he wished he traded Terry Rozier 😂
Richard Brailsford no i think he more talk about kyrie
reza s they both needed to be traded Kyrie was a diva and terry sucked ever since he went 0-10 from 3 in game 7
they need to play Romeo Langford and taco all of them grant
Rachel got that CONTENT!!
Well we all know who the problems were Rozier and Kyrie
Is me or was espn doing there best showing Kyrie, when Rachel was asking negative questions about him🤔
Well well well. Can you believe that some so-called “Celtics’ fans” were actually calling for Brad Stevens to be fired? Well look at this. No Kyrie, no Terry Rozier, and no Marcus Morris. And the Celtics were at the top of the East before the Kemba injury.
man Marcus Morris will be respected in Boston as long as he's alive, we love him to death, that man is perfect for the Celtics :(
Danny said something about Lakers yeah he need to get somebody cause Laker are a problem. they need a big man like Steven Adams and DeAndre Ayton give away kanter and Theis
Cause Brad Stevens was terrible last year. He is on the hot seat this year and for most years he also had Smart, Horford to bail out his defensive weakness. Now no Horford so we'll see how their post defense is handled
Who? I dont see anyone hmm
@BeastMode 21 Brad Stevens wasn’t the problem. It’s hard to coach when the divas on your team refuse to run your plays. That’s on Danny Ainge to get rid of the baggage.
Completely different roster, and the Celtics are balling.
Or maybe because you had a standoffish diva in your team who couldn't coexist with teammates
@Atomatic Games too bad irving admitted he wasn't a leader in the press and he took the responsibility unlike others like rozier
Ty Cason lol he’s not. Curry and Dame are better.
Ty Cason ain’t no disrespect just real talk. yeah he’s nice we all been known that. but after a while u need to be able to lead a team.. in order to be in the forefront of a championship. he just couldn’t do it with the Celtics and it was embarrassing. it’s all good tho, we will see what he does in NJ.
@Scouts Honor Here you go again with this hate. Can't admit Brad Stevens was a terrible coach that year and Tatum had ego issues. Name shooting the most midrange jumpshots in the league last year(More than Kyrie, KD, Kawhi, Harden, etc.) and still only had a 38% Field Goal percentage. One of the worst in the league. But keep blaming Kyrie.
@Scouts Honor 😂😂
So the NFL does have audio of Mason Rudolph.
If Kyrie didn’t play with LBJ , do u guys think he could make playoff ?? Obviously Kamba is a better leader , Irving is like Charles said “ dribble dribble dribble and shoot “
Even i could’ve told him keeping the same roster in 2018-19 was a bad idea
yaaaaay!!!! 🙌🏾☘️🙌🏾
Just say it like it is Danny, Kyrie was a mistake and Kemba was the answer
This is an example of being a leader, and a strong man. He is taking the blame for everything, not just what he had control over. Irving was a mistake, and his team mates are clearly happy he left.
Danny when trading like gimme your picks
Clean out the roster?
To bad Danny didn't opened he's eyes and traded Kyrie and Morris.
I hope the Cs acquire Karl Anthony Towns ofcourse without parting ways with Kemba Walker, Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum... Also keep Marcus Smart and Gordon Hayward if that was ever possible... 👏🏻
Go CELTICS 💪
Kyrie should have been shipped out after he didn't show up on the sideline for a playoff elimination game. So yeah he screwed up last year.
I love Rachel...
What happened to the feisty Danny Ainge I grew up with?
Great basketball mind...in my opinion.
You can’t tell me getting a man who is playing less than a week after spraining his neck over a guy who sent traveling to Boston for a “minor shoulder injury” which is clearly an excuse to not get booed isn’t the better deal
She's good at her job
scott costello yea brazzers
@@Firstnameunknownfr What's that mean?
with Tacko in the lineup,they'll make the finals
l want to see Danny Ainge try to make a trade with Masai Ujiri,
or vice versa.
That would be fun.
Forcing Gordon Hayward back into the rotation when he wasn’t ready to have that much responsibility and Kyrie being strange doomed them. Tatum and Brown stagnated. Kemba is perfect for them. After playing with no one in Charlotte, he has good players around him finally.
Essentially hayward came back 2-3 months early (especially considering he had a second surgery) and they expected him to return to near all-star form.
They didn't force anything. He needed playtime in a working rotation. The way some guys started isolating him from the game was disappointing. That's not the way to treat a fallen brother. Fairwell to them in the Knicks, Hornets and the Nets.
Юлиан Георгиев Brad Stevens definitely forced him onto a team that didn’t need him the previous season to get to the conference Finals. He should’ve never been a priority over Tatum and Brown. He clearly was. It helped to ruin their season. His playing time took away from the growth of two future AllStar caliber players who already have more tools than he does.
@@brodericksimpson6049 that's not fair bro. Hayward is a proven all-star player in the west, and he doesn't need the ball 24/7 to have impact or take many shots either. Also after a catastrophic injury and missing a whole year, he kinda needs the reps just as much as the younger guys...especially since they just paid him a max contact the year before and he is gonna be a big part of their future
Gino He messed up the chemistry they had built without him. It’s a fact. What he did in Utah doesn’t matter. They put him in the starting lineup immediately. It was a bad decision that ended up playing a part in ruining their season and interrupting Tatum and Brown’s growth. He should’ve been lower on the priority list than those guys. He should’ve been brought along slowly. And it’s not like he was a perennial AllStar in the West. Let’s not act like he was dominant out there. He’s a guy who can make the AllStar team if someone else gets hurt or if the coaches like him. He made it once. Tatum has perennial AllStar talent and Brown is close to that.
They must got som out for Kyrie. I feel like they're behind this Kyrie bad teammate thing. I saw a article on yahoo today talking about kyrie and his mood swings or watever🤔
oh, so they're behind the noise that started in Cleveland, followed him to Boston, and is now in Brooklyn? that makes sense
@@xordus 🙄
@@xordus you mean the LeBron writer and workers in Cleveland
@@nattie2355 seriously? okay, bud.
I don't really have a dog in the fight but Kyrie was literally in an interview, on live TV throwing his team mates under the bus. And he was live mic'ed getting on Hayward's face for missing a shot. Let's face it, in any other basketball court a team mate like that would have been punched in the mouth.
"We do fair trades."
Kappa
hello twitch chat user.
Get your kind outta here!
People forgot Kyrie Got in front of the crowd and said he would resign before the season started
That was dumb. I was always taught to never make promises I can't keep. Just keep ya mouth shut otherwise and do your job well
Ainge knew Irving was leaving and didn't trade him for any equity considering he traded away a 1st round lottery pick for him. He's right, Ainge is at fault.
They should have taken Spurs call for Kahwi- Jalen brown trade. Raptors won the ring last year.
you guys really took from this that Rozier shoulda been traded & not kyrie? Rozier took us further than any point guard not named Rondo in the past 20 something years. Kyrie shot 37-104 vs the bucks last year.
If you think about it, trading Kyrie actually turned out bad for both Celtics and the Cavs
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) "We just had a Celtic compliment the Lakers. It's time to end this interview." - Rachel Nichols
Actually Danny Ainge built the Celtics perfectly, a 5-Out offensive team that can have the best defense in the league? That should be an instant title contender...........but then...........Hayward breaks his leg on the first game. That is the reason why.
danny ainge a friend for trades
should have kept IT.
its still not great this year my dude Ainge. you need a big center
DownaldTrump Kevin love
Who would you rather have on your team baynes or fall ?
Worst move for Kyrie, he should’ve went to play with another All-NBA Player like the other contending Point Guards.
Now he has an multiple annoying fan bases on him for not allowing LeBron to leave him in a bad situation or not bringing a team to the Finals that had no answer for Kawhi Leonard or Giannis Antetokounmpo in *2019* . And of course the 2016 Warriors fans still salty about “The Shot”, now they congregate on every video to talk about him.
The media, celtics fans, and online trolls are OBSESSED with Kyrie.
Yea Danny also should have drafted siakam instead of yabusele but he didn't just shows that even when your as good at your job as Danny you still make huge mistakes
He was traded to Boston after Isiah Thomas had a MVP like season....Danny Ainge ruined two players
@@domkilluminati1036 he didn't ruin two players he traded Isiah for cap space and draft picks and if it wasn't for that the Celtics would still be the same team they were when I Isaiah was on the team and they'd be struggling just to make playoffs so that's an example of Danny ainge being good at his job he took a team that was nothing and drastically changed it in a year but I guess that makes him bad at his job and Isaiah only had his chance because of the Celtics and the fact they had no one else to fill the position no other team would have given him that chance but as good as Isaiah is offensively he's just gonna get man handled on defense and that's not good for a team but totally Danny ruined two players smh🤦🏻♂️
And when you say two players I assume you mean Kyrie and Isaiah so I'm confused Kyrie makes the choice by himself to join celtics and that's Danny's fault
We do fair trades.
Hmmmm... Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
(Phone Rings)- Hello this Danny boy. Do you want to trade your 4 first round picks and some rookies for an aging All-Star who is a cancer in our Locker Room....
Me: Deal.
he messed up the Celtics team chemistry when he traded for kyrie last year
LeeTravius Mckay he didn’t trade for him last year, everything was fine before the playoffs started his first year
No things fucked up when he started Hayward over guys like Smart, Rozier, and Morris. Especially when he kept Rozier on the team saying he was going to play a big role but started a injured Hayward to start the year. Wasn't cleared for contact TWO WEEKS before the season started. But its "Kyrie's fault".
@@beastmode218 wrong
That doesn't explain why they never figured it out though. Hayward didn't start many games, and only at the beginning of the year. In the end, he only had 25 min/game and 8 shots per game. The fact that he started a few games when he wasn't 100% shouldn't carry a weight over the team all the way through the season and into the playoffs. He weak does a team have to be to have one guys role at the beginning of the season to ruin a team's entire season. It makes no sense. There's clearly a bigger deeper reason.
@@panner11 They started 10-10 before they finally benched him. He played significant minutes and damage was already done with the media already calling attention with the Celtics off play. Namely Boston Media already blaming Kyrie and wanting the young guys to take the mantle.
You know what, your team as of now dominating. It so happen that you just won games. But it's not yet, you know,? Take a look at the other team who becomes a champ, they dominate in some other terms. The uniqueness of play which even you could not explain. The ONE that direct a team. I know you know Danny what I mean. There are some needs that you need to sacrifice. The Chicago Bulls get rid of others for the good of the team like Phil Jackson and GSW replacing Mark for Steve. There is a need to sacrifice even on players or coach. The plays of Stevens could easily read. A simple adjustment for other teams to do. Boston is one of the top and tough team, that why they are always on the radar of other teams. Always studied just like the player involves . As what I always say your not a dominant team after they know what's your plays. There's always a plan ahead of schedule.
I'm sure Parish has gotten high with Walton haha Go CELTICS 💪
ESPN: Constantly highlights Kyrie's flaws, personal issues and makes him the scapegoat everytime something goes wrong
Also ESPN: Why does Kyrie always take the blame for everything?
"It was my fault, I never should have gotten you in the first olace Kyrie... Sorry everyone."
Thats what I heard
Yeah but that's because you're a Celtics fan, meaning the worst kind of fans in sports. You guys only see and hear what you want to and treat your opinions as facts.
@@sahejsodhi5909 oh wow salty huh. Maybe listen again.... Tell me what you think he means if you please.
Seems to me that Kyrie just has other things that he cares for in his life. Family, philosophy, depression, shoes.... Kemba seems to be just about Basketball...with enough emotional strength to support a team as a leading player. Kyrie doesn't have that. And it's not bad. He's an amazing second man and will be an All-Star for years to come if he keeps it up. He'll be great with Durant on the court! Maybe even next to Dinwiddie.
You mean the way you treated Ray Allen was
This guy Had a TERRIBLE Temper and a Ton of Rage as a player back in the 80s!
The problem was when you surround Kyrie Irving who’s a shotcreater with other shotcreaters like Marcus Morris, and Terry Rozier, and Jayson Tatum, and Jaylen Brown plus you force Gordon Hayward into the starting lineup when it was obvious he wasn’t ready to take that kind of load, you get players not getting their respective touches thus leads to the chemistry problems the Celtics had last year
Kyrie should be a shooting guard he’s not a point guard
he averaging more assists than kemba tho
he's a scoring first pg bro
@@SosaA11 the ball doesnt stick with Curry, though. He knows how to be a level headed leader with his actions on and off the court. Also PG is more than just "assists" or even "hockey assists". Shot creation is a huge part of being a playmaker and Curry does that better than most PG, helping draymond get easier looks going for 2 on 1s and 3 on 2s but they're both solid playmakers either way.