2021 BMW S1000R Sport ※ First Impressions review from ex-owner of 2017-2019 model
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Hey folks, I was very happy to be able to take the new S1000R for a ride a few days ago!
The main reason I was interested in riding this bike was so I could compare it to the 2019 model I owned for almost 18 months. I'm not comparing this bike to any other bike is the Super/Hyper Naked category, just the previous model. The opinions presented are my own! You may disagree with some of my comments or think that things that were a concern for me, aren't important to you.
Now even if the new S1KR is better in every area than the old model, it's not the type of bike I want anymore (unless I could afford a track day bike). However, I had my fingers crossed for people who are worried that this model may be a "let down" or "missed opportunity" from BMW.
I forgot to answer the question I had about the throttle in the video... this bike had no free play in the throttle at all, however the fuelling felt good at small throttle openings so well done BMW!
This is the first video I can add adverts to, now that I have over 1000 awesome subscribers... I've got four "mid roll" ads in there. I know ads are not welcome but if you think that, compared to similar length videos I I've got one or two too may ads, please let me know. Cheers!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:59 Suspension feels nicer...
1:14 Wind blast no different really (which is fine for what it is...)
1:48 Spec of this particular bike
2:04 Riding position very familiar!
2:28 Fixed! Steering lock/angle
3:19 Grabby clutch?
3:26 Extra heated grip option!
4:32 First taste of the power
5:40 Better (I think) - throttle response from 6000rpm
6:35 Fixed! Up-to-date instruments and more options to play with
9:00 Feeling at higher speeds... Fixed! stability is hugely improved over the 2nd gen
10:03 My tin-hat conspiracy theory about the older models...
10:40 A bit more speed and talk about the suspension/stability
11:32 Exhaust burble/pop is still in there - you just have to look harder for it!
12:45 Back to that 6000rpm soft spot in the revs...
13:02 The brakes...
13:25 Vibrations seem similar...
13:54 Fixed! Improved feel at the gear lever
15:06 Bike feels more grown up
15:24 It's still not the bike for me anymore... mainly for this reason
16:00 Not Fixed! Don't worry it's only the size of the side stand foot
16:06 It's the same but better
17:45 Back to the brakes.. Better! improved/more progressive initial bite
18:32 I realise just how much better the bike is in a straight line...
18:36 The brakes again... more user-friendly now, like the rest of the bike
20:30 Summing up
22:02 A little walkaround and some photos - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:59 Suspension feels nicer...
1:14 Wind blast no different really (which is fine for what it is...)
1:48 Spec of this particular bike
2:04 Riding position very familiar!
2:28 Fixed! Steering lock/angle
3:19 Grabby clutch?
3:26 Extra heated grip option!
4:32 First taste of the power
5:40 Better (I think) - throttle response from 6000rpm
6:35 Fixed! Up-to-date instruments and more options to play with
9:00 Feeling at higher speeds... Fixed! stability is hugely improved over the 2nd gen
10:03 My tin-hat conspiracy theory about the older models...
10:40 A bit more speed and talk about the suspension/stability
11:32 Exhaust burble/pop is still in there - you just have to look harder for it!
12:45 Back to that 6000rpm soft spot in the revs...
13:02 The brakes...
13:25 Vibrations seem similar...
13:54 Fixed! Improved feel at the gear lever
15:06 Bike feels more grown up
15:24 It's still not the bike for me anymore... mainly for this reason
16:00 Not Fixed! Don't worry it's only the size of the side stand foot
16:06 It's the same but better
17:45 Back to the brakes.. Better! improved/more progressive initial bite
18:32 I realise just how much better the bike is in a straight line...
18:36 The brakes again... more user-friendly now, like the rest of the bike
20:30 Summing up
22:02 A little walkaround and some photos
I picked up my S1000R SPORT Racing Red on Friday last week and I have found it to be amazing - extremely well balanced steering, light but controlled confidence inspiring turning into bends, roundabouts, throttle is very very smooth and the suspension very compliant soft when the it has to be and firm when required. The self cancelling indicators are a welcomed addition along with the hill hold assist and I am appreciating for the first time the quick shifter/blipper. It was very easy to connect the SENA units my two helmets. I am as you can tell very very pleased
That's great to hear that you are enjoying your new bike so much! It's an extremely competent machine with a real turn of speed when you need it 😊
Great video as always. Really interested to hear your thoughts on the new S1R. More info in your video than many bike journalists reviews.
Keep well
Cheers mate that's a great thing to hear 👍
Good review! Had that exact model a week now! Albeit without Akra can. The burble def only comes on in dynamic pro.
Was yours still restricted to under 8k revs or has it had its first service?
The first service was already done so I had all the revs to play with 😊
Excellent review - all the important points to a road rider. I'm not sure why but more and more I'm inclined to swap my '18 for this one.
Question: the second gen front suspension tended to dive easily when applying brakes at speed. Is this improved or does the electronics allow for stiffening of the front end (beyond what was possible with preload on previous model)?
Cheers Windy! Now to your question... it's a tricky one because I actually didn't feel that the front dived excessively on my 2019 model (which would be the same as your 2018). I guess it's all down to personal experience I guess. So I didn't particularly look out for front end dive but didn't notice anything that stood out. There's only one thing for it, you'll have to get a test ride 😁
Great review Rikky Tang! I am looking forward to my local dealer getting this bike in so I can get a good look and throw a leg over it. I really loved my 2017 model and sounds like this one is much better. On another note... I sure am enjoying my 1250R! 😎 Slowly doing a few fun things to it. Great work Rikky!
Hey there, thanks for the kind words 😊 yes in several important ways its better than the old one. I still wouldn't swap my 1250 for it though! Great to hear that you are still enjoying yours too. I have fitted a silencer now... I have a Leo Vince carbon silencer (designed for the R1200 but it fits). Sounds TOO good with the DB killer removed 😁 Video to follow!
@@RikkyTang Looking forward to hearing it. I have a black Arrow on order, should arrive this week.
You mentioned it had some grab when you let the clutch out. Are you describing the start assist that Suzuki bikes have? It makes traffic driving a little more bearable.
From what I know of the Suzuki start assist, it raises the revs slightly as you pull away but doesn't actually effect how the clutch engages. On the S1000R, it just felt like a grabby clutch. Only happened on one or two occasions but when it happened it didn't feel too nice.
Only just seen this...on back of searching for a Gen 2 vs Gen 3 comparison. A very detaied review 👍
..Only thing missing was sone brisk/progressive cornering & conparison to the Gen 2 in that regard.
Thanks
👍🏍
The only issues with the first gen would be the factory lighting is weak, the steering dampener isn’t that great and you would at some point have to change the coolant res and chain guide out for revised versions.
I must say I love the look of the new headlight over the old model. Eye of the beholder and all that but it seems everyone has mentioned preferring the old headlights and I think they're all mad lol
That aside thanks for the review!
Thanks for your comment! Yes you appear to be in a minority but that's ok - it takes all sorts to make a world! 😁
Hi, why you don’t use the Quickshifter with Blipper function, that work so good and is a real pleasure?
You can hear me using the quickshifter from 5:31 and you can catch me using the autoblipper at 9:38 so 🤷♂️
Sometimes I use the clutch, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I just go old school and clutchless shift & blip the throttle. It's nice to have all three options 👍
Thanks for good real world review Ricky. Hi was the wind buffering at say 100kms/ hr?? Was it ok for long periods over an hour or two? Have you riden the 2021 Tuono and how would you compare them? Cheers mate.
Hi, yeah I think you'll be good for a couple of hours at 100kms/hr. I did that a few times on my 2019 model. It might be a shock if you are coming from a faired bike but if you have ridden a naked bike before then you won't have any problems.
I haven't ridden any V4 Aprilias yet... they're on my wish list!
@@RikkyTang great, thanks for your advice mate. Cheers
I recommend watching Lamb Chop Rides video on new tuono. He had just ridden the s1000r at bmw launch in UK and offers a few comparisons between the new tuono and s1000r. Also, he is a great channel - entertaining and gives a rider's perspective.
@@windyrun7979 yep, agree. Been following him for a
While - always good Fun!
Nice practical review. I have the R1250RS besides the new soon to arrive 2021 S1000R. I think it’s the best combination for my riding needs.
If I could own my 1250 and have the S1KR for track days I'd be a very happy camper!
Congrats! Beautiful bike. Pity the colours of bike cannot be chosen without changing the model specs.
Nice review, I wasn't going to even look at it, changed my mind now.
Whether I bother with a test ride, I'm not sure, I suppose it would be worth it if I got a good px.
I totally agree about the rear subframe, just make it black 🙂
The combination of the electronics and dash alongside the (in my opinion) much better-behaved chassis does make it very good upgrade... even if it hasn't got a big power increase, it's more of a precise weapon than before. I think a test ride would only seal the deal!
I should have tried black and a few other colours in the video too... opportunity missed! 🤦♂️
So if you would have to the chance to swap Your R1250R for the new S1000R with no extra money would You go for one? Or does the R1250R still is a bit better as an all round naked bike?
Ps Can you do if possible a first date ride review of the new GSX-S1000 cause for the money I think it m8ght be all the bike one needs especially bow when it has blipper and quickshifter and better eletronics plus more intresting(for me) looks.
Hey there, no I am really happy with my R1250R and I wouldn't swap it for the new S1000R. The 1250 isn't perfect! But for me, that mid-range torque puts a big smile on my face more often than the S1000R could on the road 😁
Frasers of Gloucester should be getting a GSX-S1000 in June I think. I'll see what I can do 👍
That is one really luverly bike loads of money of course but never the less really nice .Personally I only ride old stuff these days but it seems to from what I have seen on this forum the virtually all the fours and triples seem to be really high revving engines so making the rider having to rev the pants of it to get peak power and be up and down the box all the time almost two strokesk if you will ,maybe I am completely wrong about this but that´s what I am taking from my views of tests . Great review though Rikky enjoyed as always cheers : )
Yes Malcolm, what you say about the latest sporty bikes (even the naked ones) is pretty much spot on... this is one of the reasons why I'm on the R1250R now - the power on that bike makes much more sense on the road even if the handling is not as sharp... it's just more fun! Glad you enjoyed the vid 😊
Test rode this exact bike from WGC and have actually ordered one for next year
It's an excellent bike! Bet you are counting the sleeps already hehe
Is the suspension adjustable in the new one or fully electronic? Great review Ricky 🙏🏻
Cheers! On the base version (silver forks) the suspension is fully adjustable. On the Sport mode with electronic suspension (gold forks) you can only adjust the preload manually.
@@RikkyTang damn…. This preload crap again 🤦🏻♂️
@@Invis_Space Yeah I never fully got it worked out on the model I had with the ESA...
@@RikkyTang it’s why I want to sell mine lol such a ball ache.
Thanks!!
Did you get your gen 2 set up on the suspension? I bought a 2nd hand one, it was set up way too soft, had it set up to my weight on the preloads, doesn't shake its head at all under hard acceleration ;)
I did not get the suspension set up by an expert... I tried but the local suspension experts told me that because the only thing they could adjust on this bike was preload they thought I'd be wasting my money on their service. I spent a day riding trying different preload combinations front and rear but the only thing that stopped my head shakes was an Ohlins adjustable steering damper.
@@RikkyTang Hi Ricky, it was only £20 as it was just preload adjustment, was well worth it, bike completely different after riding from there ;)
@@ob5671 Yeah its a shame that the bike shop didn't want to even want to look at my bike 😐 I'm happy to hear that yours is sorted though, it's one hell of a machine for sure!
Great review Rikky 👍🏻. Do you think it can be a good substitute for the bigger touring bikes like GS for weekend highway cruising, by putting a windscreen and comfort seats? My only issue with the GS is that it looks comically huge for inner city riding. The problem with the XR is value retention. As for the R1250RS, I don’t know who the bike is made for, as the classic RT serves the same roadster purpose while looking great doing it.
Well working backwards through your comments 😁 The RS and RT do have some overlap to be sure and if I wanted to do a 1000 mile road trip I'd pick the RT for definite! The RS has mild clip-ons a lower screen and is more suited to weekend blasts IMO.
While the GS is a big bike, it's also a bloody impressive one, based on my short time on the 1250GS last year. It would handle town work with aplomb (apart from squeezing through the tightest gaps!) and taller seat height allows great visibility in traffic too so don't let the size put you off!
I think the S1000R could work as a sporty long distance bike, but for me I'd know I'd get frustrated trying to find the right aftermarket screen to fit. I predict plenty of £'s spent and a lot of frustration unless you get lucky early on.
@@RikkyTang excellent response, you summed it perfectly for me. Thanks very much.
@@RikkyTang also, please do get your hands on the triumph 1200GT pro. I am keen to watch your review on it. I am retiring my xDiavel S after 5 years of ownership as I want to change my style and explore b-roads and small distance highway touring (~300km range). I am now leaning towards the GS after reading what you had to say. Infact maybe I would got for the whole fat hog GSA which is clearly an overkill 😀 though a keepsake, or maybe the desert X from Ducati, unless the Triumph 1200 makes a compelling case given the features and value as many reviewers are hinting at.
Being a new bike the 1200GT pro will have a lot of unknown variables unlike the tried and well loved GS. Press launches and magazine reviews are sugarcoated. Your reviews in comparison are authentic and from the heart. Great work Rikky 👍🏻.
@@telebiopic I think I want to frame this comment 😁 Thanks SW! I haven't got any lines on new Triumph bikes yet I'm afraid as I'm still very much small fry in the YT world but I will see what can be done. The GSA... well that is a serious proposition! Tall seat height apparently, I hope you have the legs for it! I love the look of the Desert X myself but I have this thing for large amounts of torque (as I suspect you do if you own a xDiavel) and I'm not sure if the Desert X can tick that box. Having said that it may well charm me anyway! And yes the 1200 Triumph is a bit of an unknown quantity right now... it's a lot of money to spend to be an early adopter!
I'm in no particular rush to sell my R1250R because I really love riding it, but I am very interested in the next generation of GS/1300 boxer so perhaps it might be worth hanging on until some more details creep about that?
@@RikkyTang by all means, go ahead. I have ridden the GSA, and for sure it draws a lot of looks on the street but those gazes are not for it’s beauty I tell you, rather it’s big girl size 😀. XDiavel is a genuine beauty and eye-magnet, though it is not the most comfortable for long times in the saddle nor is it for B-roads.
Nice review Rikky! Think the 1250 was a better choice though!
I fully agree 😊
Hi.. nice perspective..
Im looking at 2020 model s1000r.. ive gone f3 800 to ft1200 ( so torquey .. lovely) but miss the mid corner handling still fun blasting out of corners but have to be 100% on your game as it will bite when hustling it. So considering bmw s1000r ... tested one and found relaxed usualable torque 4 to 7k which felt flowing and safe and fast but not blow your mind stuff at 9000rpm yes stuff got pretty rapid on tight twist roads and not something im likely to be playing at in real world riding for me. Humm! I was impressed but felt it was an instrument that was very very good and capable of do all you ask of it... but i wasnt wow thing a deal right now. I week later still replecting on it hence finding your review. Cheers rich.
Thank you Rich! I've just released a test ride vid on an F800 and I have to say that I was very impressed after my short ride! I could see myself owning one (if I had the disposable cash, which I don't!). The S1000R is a just a great all round, powerful and great handling bike. There are no real flaws in it but I guess perhaps the lack of rough edges works against it for some folk. I guess you have considered an Aprilia Tuono 1100 Factory too?
@@RikkyTang Cheers .. Im lucky enough to own a husqvarna nuda which shares old f800 DNA.. It's what started me on my bmw journey. Ive enjoyed a r9t scrambler which given my riding style i shouldnt like it as much as i do... Im only 8-10 secs slower on it than my average around our local track, considering it was a cold day and i had bridgestone ax41s on it ( very good but not a track tyre) i was amazed at 1.59mins laps and it was great fun. I can see why people would like the shift cam boxer engine. My aircooled boxer is a lovely thing. The indian Ftr1200 gave me more moments than ever before on any another bike , all from the rear end wanting to step out but i guess that is the design brief... Im just not good enough or willing to ride like that. I did a bit on the last day before i changed the tyres ( trying to wear them out as just wanted them off the bike before best before date) and i finally understood it. Which brings me to the tuono 1100 my mate rides one and its a great bike but will not folliw suit... Following him on the ftr1200 i just can't keep the same mid corner speed where usually i can on other bikes. Sorry for the story.. I'll look out for the f800 review. Ps my best lap time of 1.44 was on the nuda. But that was trying hard and had a year of many track days. The top guys on superbikes are 1.30 ish.
@@richbrett7268 Thanks again for your thoughts and comments, stories are fine by me! 😁
I liked the idea of the Nuda but the angular shape of the fuel tank always put my off for some reason! I do hope to get a ride on the F900R at some point though (although BMW UK weren't interested in lending me one for a longer term test sadly).
I haven't sampled an Indian yet and I'm also not really one for purposely spinning up the rear... having said that I can do it on the R1250R because the TC lets you to a small degree! I have ridden an R9T Scrambler recently and video will be coming soon - it's really good to ride and looks awesome - I can see me owning one at some point! But the 1250 Shiftcam engine has s good bit more power and torque (but more weight and maybe less character...). But torque is king for me at this point! I've managed a 1:57 on it around Donington with a a bit more to come from the bike but I need some track tuition!
What is the difference between standard headlights and headlight pro? Does standard also have the led "line" going through?
Looking at the BMW Configurator it's a bit confusing... when you add Headlight Pro you also get the Daytime Riding Light and Adaptive Headlight options so it's difficult to tell which bit is which. But I think if you choose no extra options for the headlight you will not have the LED strip in the middle.
@@RikkyTang I think you get the led strip but not the illuminated R logo?
@@auroragaming8404 OK, I'm not sure about the options in that case sorry!
Hey Rikky, how does the GSX-S1000 - 2022 stand up to the S1000? Thanks.
The Suzuki stands up very well to the BMW in my opinion... on the road there are pretty close when it comes to power. Maybe the BMW edges it on handling with its S1000RR derived chassis. I prefer the extra electronic "toys" of the BMW too. If the Suzuki had the new instruments and connectivity of the GSX-S 1000GT it would be hard for me to choose between them but right now the BMW would be my pick.
@@RikkyTang Thanks so much
gotta remember the suzuki is also 3k cheaper. bang for your buck suzuki all day for me. but there both brilliant bikes and way more capable than 99% of road riders will ever be
@@Carvetii 100 % Agree. I’m going for the Suzuki end of May.
Can’t wait mine what I can pick up at the mid of July. :)
It's a special machine for sure 😊
@@RikkyTang Now for me the worst thing is the waiting time! Even 7-8 weeks and I can’t see it at my dealer because they haven’t a show motorbike…. :/
@@adamrakoczi Ouch 😢 you'll just have to keep watching these review videos for now! It will be worth the wait though 💯
@@RikkyTang exactly, nowadays this is my medicine. :)
I really (really really) prefer the old look of the S1000R so I wonder if this really is this better than the old one that I should take the new one ?
Yeah I prefer the look of the old model also... but in my opinion this is a better bike to ride than the Gen 2 model; it has better technology too
that would be my absolut dream bike, if there wasn't the heavy price tag :(
You didn't change any of the settings since you didn't push right for OK
Indeed you are correct, great catch! In that case there is even more fun to be had on this bike in the right situations 👍
@@RikkyTang Had a 17 R, riden the new XR and RR. The engine/gearbox is super smooth. Have a Tuono now but future R might be coming
Rikky. You just rode past my house in Ware in this video 👍🏻
I hope I didn't make a racket 😂
I thought it had sat nav built in
No it doesn't Phil, you have to connect the bike to your phone and then the BMW app provides the turn-by-turn navigation.
What is your helmet?
It is a Shoei GT Air (Mk.1)
English finally 🙌
You're welcome 👍 Tell your friends! lol
just say please
this bike good or no?
Yes this bike is very good 👍
@@RikkyTang thanks bro)
@@RikkyTang what do you think this bike is not small for people height 183cm?
@@user-di3dm6bw7l I am only 170cm so it is difficult to say... if you have long legs then the footpegs might feel too high. The riding position is similar to the old models so if you can sit on any model from 2014-2020 you will get a good idea how the latest bike feels.
@@RikkyTang thank you
slow to go unless you have a handfull of throttle , an 2022 MT10 beats it hands down everywhere
You have not helped me move on from this bike.
Its a nice bike but it does not excite me anymore
A 15 min review stretched to 24 mins with annoying repetition.
Thanks for your comment - it's always good to know why people might be downvoting your video 👍
@@RikkyTang nice reply. Personally i didnt find any repetition unessary as i was happy to hear any reiteration as consolidating summary incase i missed it the 1st time.
@@richbrett7268 Thanks Rich - as an instructor in IT I've made it a habit to try to explain things in at least two different ways to account for different learning styles; I guess just comes happens naturally some times without realising 😊