The pure Gospel has a way it invites you to need nothing but more of Jesus in His word. Pastors like Dr. Abel are gold in our time! Keep enjoying your blessings🎉
Dr. Damina is trying his best, but the Biblical point of view can be simply put. The kingdom suffers a holy violence where self must be denied, the crooked and prejudice, the body and the spirit of the mind must be converted. There are hard sufferings to be endured, a force to set upon the corrupt nature. We must run, contend, fight, and be in passion. To get over such opposition from within and from without. The violent take it by force. Those who will have an interest in the great salvation are carried out towards it with a strong desire, not losing their hold without a blessing (GEN. 32:26). May grace be granted unto us through Christ our Lord. Amen!
@blessed4019 GOD bless you. Please can you put what I said in the right perspective backing it up with scriptural injunctions? You know iron sharpens iron, and I am not Mr. Know it all! Thanks
@abdulkuku7036 My brother, that scripture was not in any way referring to the believer in Christ. We are already in Christ, already been translated from the Kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of Christ, already have obtained salvation, and already have eternal life. Jesus was scolding the Pharisees about their refusal to embrace the gospel of the kingdom, the sane gospel 'sinners" , Samaritans and orhers easily embraced, believed and received. Read Luke 16:14-16 "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."
@blessed4019 GOD bless you. The Biblical injunctions don't require jumping from pillar to post. Comparing that quotation of Christ with 1PETER has no resemblance, though you edited it. What is the message John the Baptist preached? Bread and butter? (MATT. 3:1-12; LK. 3:1-19). Why was Christ scolding the Pharisees? They refused to repent. Repent from what? The ministry of John was the beginning of the gospel, as it is reckoned (MK. 1:1-3; ACTS 1:22). The Luke Chapter 16 you quoted is Christ teaching the multitude of the difference between worshipping GOD and money. Hence, He talks about covetousness, and in verse 16, Christ said, "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. SINCE THAT TIME,*the Goodnews of the kingdom of GOD is being preached, AND EVERYONE IS *FORCING* THEIR WAY INTO IT. How are they forcing their way into it? Without repentance? By continuing to revel in their sins? The Law and the Prophets are testimony and witnesses of Christ (MATT. 17:1-13; LK. 1:13-17). My brother take your time to go through my missive. The LORD will grant you grace through Christ our Lord. Amen
@abdulkuku7036 Bros, you are still getting things twisted throwing unrelated scriptures around. I edited my post because I did not want it to be too long in trying to incorporate Peter's validation of what Christ said about the old-time prophets. I maintain that the scriptures on "the violent take it by force" or "many press into it" do not in anyway refer to the man in Christ. We have ALREADY obtained the kingdom, we are ALREADY in the kingdom. You are making it look as though, while in the kingdom, the believer should still be "pressing" and trying to obtain the kingdom with repentance. It's like having a treasure in your sokoto (trousers) and you are still traveling to the state of Sokoto looking for it. Jesus simply was urging the Pharisees who rather than believe his message of the kingdom and join the desperate "rush" into the kingdom, were busy rejecting it and deriding him.
"Suffereth violence": It is not to be obtained but by main force, by using violence upon ourselves, by mortification and penance, and resisting our perverse inclinations. In context? Sure... You see, and you know this already, bc you are a human in this world, It's violence to fast, for instance. It hurts our lil tummies. We need food, He knows we need food. It's the most baser of our needs. And is why, Jesus told his disciples, that "this demon", to exercise THIS demon, requires prayers AND FASTING. The power of the redemption, made real in our own space and time. Deny thy selves, He says. Don't skip over these verses and say, oh, He did it all. Indeed he did. Now we must pick up OUR individual crosses, and follow him. Where? To Calvary. To make YOUR bodies, living sacrifices, St. Paul reminds us, of our lot. It's violence to deny our thirsts and hungers, isn't it?It's foolishness to seek the cross. Why would I WANT to wash the dishes, one may ask, when our wives say, I want you to WANT to wash the dishes. We don't want to wash the dishes, who WANTS to wash the dishes?? Well my dear beloveds, Bc the sincerest form of love, is suffering. Love. Unconditional love, it should "cost" us something. Not that if I do X, Y, and Z, I then purchased my wife's love and affection, that then have gained her "heavenly" reward of being her showing me kindness, mercy, and respect. No, even the publican does that. Does good, for favor. I'm talking pure agape love. And that kind of love, will always "cost" you something. It will hurt, in a manner of speaking. To do "love", is to take action, and it's hard, indeed, and the body, our ego, and our pride hates to "do" anything for the other, without reward. But to selflessly deny one's, self for God, purely for the infinite love of the other, for the unconditional love, for Him?! That's stupid, that's foolish, indeed, it's violence. And only those who do violence to themselves will enter the gates of heaven. 😳❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️
John is the last prophet, and before Christ dispensation , the old testament prophets tried to search what manner the coming of the Lord, Jesus Christ would look like
John the Baptist was conceived of the holy ghost in the womb,violent and suffer is the move of the holy spirit starting from when John appeared on the scene,John was supposed to be a priest after is father's name and duty,instead he was led by the spirit into the wilderness,this controversy and is introduction of Jesus Christ to Israel curtails opposition to tradition under the Jewish Law.May God grant you revelation,stop reading Bible like Greek scholars and understanding of mere letter😇
There is a little problem here, the bible says from John the Baptist until now, it does not say before John , therefore John was in the dispensation where violence ensued until the Kingdom which came through Jesus, which means hence Jesus , we enter into Kingdom legitimately . if we are in Jesus, we are automatically in Kingdom.
From my understanding of the bible, matt 11:9 is referencing John and not Jesus himself. Jesus is not making reference to himself as more than a prophet but John the Baptist in this context. This is clearly stated from matt 11: 7-10 when Jesus was addressing the multitude concerning John the Baptist. My take.
FROM the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. Matthew 11:12 ESV I must have heard wrongly, but it seems as though Dr. Damina said the verse said BEFORE John the Baptist, and proceeded to give his explanation from there. "From" and "Before" connote different things, and thus the accurate interpretation of the verse cannot be what the man of God is saying in the video. For the record though, I concur with his assertion that the verse has nothing to do with the so-called spiritual warfare that is the interpretation and application held by many churches.
Don't forget that the holy ghost showed John who Christ was, but when John went to the prison he expected Jesus to come for his release but Jesus didn't because John's assignment was finished and he has to leave that's why Jesus told John's messanger to go back and tell John that what the scripture said about him is happening now, so is better to leave when the job is done.
Matt. 11:12 says, "and from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent take it by force". It does not say until John the Baptist. The violent in this verse refers to those who do violence to (persecute) the children of God. John the Baptist, Jesus, the 12 apostles except John (the apostle who wrote the book of Revelation), etc. were violently killed. Both false teacher Abel Damina and those he is trying to correct are wrong. I have always condemned those using the verse to pray to mean the violent refers to believers in Christ who take or try to enter the kingdom of God by force. The violent refers to those who try to stop the Church or the spreading of the Gospel of the kingdom of God by force. Take note of the simple present tense used, " suffereth " (old English which is the same as suffers) and not simple past tense 'suffered'.
@nwekechinedu157 GOD bless you. NO sir! It is not those who try to stop the church that is violent. Those who strive to make others abhorrent do but make themselves so. The foundation of Christian practice must be laid in Christian knowledge and faith. We must first understand how we receive Christ, and then we shall know the better how to walk in Him. Peace!
Therefore.there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.because.through Christ Jesus the law of the spirit.who give life has set you ？free from the law of sin and death,for what the law was powerless to do because.it was weakened by the flesh.God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin . offering.And so he condemned sin in the flesh.in order that the righteous.requirement of the law might be fully .met in us .who do not live according to the flesh.but according to the spirits 🙏🕊️🈴
This is a beautify dissection of that particular part. I always knew that the prayers in many Pentecostal churches were awkward. The bible said the violent taketh it by false, and we being children of peace are not violent so I stopped praying that nonsense prayers. However John 11:9 was talking about John and not Jesus. Jesus was saying that John is greater than prophet
Correct matt 11:9 is referencing John and not Jesus himself. Jesus is not making reference to himself as more than a prophet but John the Baptist in this context. This is clearly stated from matt 11: 7-10 when Jesus was addressing the multitude concerning John the Baptist
Jesus Christ was given to prayers, the Apostles were given to prayers, we are taught to pray without ceasing. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness, rulers of darkness, e.t.c, hence we have to put on the whole armor of God. Being a Christ is not bread and butter, but we are more than conqueror through christ which strengthen us. I don't think this man is given to much prayers, hence whatever he does not practice, he finds a way to explain it out of the scriptures. Some things will not change except through fasting and prayers.
Doesn't make sense ,if anything it sounds completely different to what the scripture is saying. I can't imagine why the translators can be so off. It does say before John, since the days of John till now.
How was this man able to manipulate those peoples minds that they were not able to see that there's a difference between "From the days of John " and "until John "!? And This is actually common in almost all his sermons, twisting of scriptures in order to lead astray the minds of the simple...
James Bible MATTH 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.You wrong again,it got nothing to do with prophecy,MEANS FROM THE TIME OF JOHN THE BAPTIST ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, THE VIOLENT AND THE SUFFER IS THE MOVE OF THE SPIRIT,STARING FROM JOHN THE BAPTIST BECAUSE HE WAS FILLED WITH HOLY GHOST IN THE WORM.I AM SO SORRY.FOR THESE CONGREGATION 🤔
@@titumark888 I'm not the one doing the violence,was Jesus Christ dead violence...if you listen to your answer let me know...second question, who was responsible for the ultimate death of Jesus Christ on the cross...and who was responsible in Genesis for the attempt slaying of Isaac,and finally in the book of rev 13.8 the Lamb of God that was "Slain" from the foundation of the world.please check in the dictionary the meaning of SLAIN,then we can reason together son of God...Be blessed 👃
Take your time in consuming revelations of Jesus. Don’t cram all at once. What he’s dealing with there is serious revelation knowledge. Get the foundation right first “Salvation Message” and the rest will make sense to you. You said you’re sorry for his congregation…smh! I’m surprised you’re boldly declaring your shallow understanding of Jesus instead of humbling yourself to learn more. Anyway…not everyone is ready to pursue in-depth the knowledge of Truth. But his congregation and myself are. Shalom!
Why you translation in to Greek. You have the wrong consciousness. You have it all wrong. Kingdom of god is your body. God Kingdom is within you start there. Paul. was in the new testament was a metaphysical Preacher. Start there. Take Dominion. Is your right hand. Right side brain This is why we cannot get anywhere. As a people. False enough is enough. People want spiritual not. Religion. Fr greek.
The pure Gospel has a way it invites you to need nothing but more of Jesus in His word. Pastors like Dr. Abel are gold in our time! Keep enjoying your blessings🎉
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Have heard many Revelation concerning this verse, and papas teaching is excellent, congratulation papa
Dr. Damina is trying his best, but the Biblical point of view can be simply put. The kingdom suffers a holy violence where self must be denied, the crooked and prejudice, the body and the spirit of the mind must be converted. There are hard sufferings to be endured, a force to set upon the corrupt nature. We must run, contend, fight, and be in passion. To get over such opposition from within and from without. The violent take it by force. Those who will have an interest in the great salvation are carried out towards it with a strong desire, not losing their hold without a blessing (GEN. 32:26). May grace be granted unto us through Christ our Lord. Amen!
What a poor deviant interpretation you provided. You simply spoke what you thought that scripture meant.
@blessed4019 GOD bless you. Please can you put what I said in the right perspective backing it up with scriptural injunctions? You know iron sharpens iron, and I am not Mr. Know it all! Thanks
@abdulkuku7036 My brother, that scripture was not in any way referring to the believer in Christ. We are already in Christ, already been translated from the Kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of Christ, already have obtained salvation, and already have eternal life. Jesus was scolding the Pharisees about their refusal to embrace the gospel of the kingdom, the sane gospel 'sinners" , Samaritans and orhers easily embraced, believed and received. Read Luke 16:14-16 "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."
@blessed4019 GOD bless you. The Biblical injunctions don't require jumping from pillar to post. Comparing that quotation of Christ with 1PETER has no resemblance, though you edited it. What is the message John the Baptist preached? Bread and butter? (MATT. 3:1-12; LK. 3:1-19). Why was Christ scolding the Pharisees? They refused to repent. Repent from what? The ministry of John was the beginning of the gospel, as it is reckoned (MK. 1:1-3; ACTS 1:22). The Luke Chapter 16 you quoted is Christ teaching the multitude of the difference between worshipping GOD and money. Hence, He talks about covetousness, and in verse 16, Christ said, "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. SINCE THAT TIME,*the Goodnews of the kingdom of GOD is being preached, AND EVERYONE IS *FORCING* THEIR WAY INTO IT. How are they forcing their way into it? Without repentance? By continuing to revel in their sins? The Law and the Prophets are testimony and witnesses of Christ (MATT. 17:1-13; LK. 1:13-17). My brother take your time to go through my missive. The LORD will grant you grace through Christ our Lord. Amen
@abdulkuku7036 Bros, you are still getting things twisted throwing unrelated scriptures around. I edited my post because I did not want it to be too long in trying to incorporate Peter's validation of what Christ said about the old-time prophets. I maintain that the scriptures on "the violent take it by force" or "many press into it" do not in anyway refer to the man in Christ. We have ALREADY obtained the kingdom, we are ALREADY in the kingdom. You are making it look as though, while in the kingdom, the believer should still be "pressing" and trying to obtain the kingdom with repentance. It's like having a treasure in your sokoto (trousers) and you are still traveling to the state of Sokoto looking for it. Jesus simply was urging the Pharisees who rather than believe his message of the kingdom and join the desperate "rush" into the kingdom, were busy rejecting it and deriding him.
1:58 From the days of John is different from until John Sir
What an excellent teaching......by an excellent teacher digging deep into scriptures
This makes so much more sense. I've heard so many different explanations. This is good. Thanks
This is MY kind of teacher. I have no need of preaching or preachers.
This is right interpretation sir. Thanks so much for the clarity.
"Suffereth violence": It is not to be obtained but by main force, by using violence upon ourselves, by mortification and penance, and resisting our perverse inclinations.
In context? Sure... You see, and you know this already, bc you are a human in this world, It's violence to fast, for instance. It hurts our lil tummies. We need food, He knows we need food. It's the most baser of our needs. And is why, Jesus told his disciples, that "this demon", to exercise THIS demon, requires prayers AND FASTING. The power of the redemption, made real in our own space and time. Deny thy selves, He says. Don't skip over these verses and say, oh, He did it all. Indeed he did. Now we must pick up OUR individual crosses, and follow him. Where? To Calvary. To make YOUR bodies, living sacrifices, St. Paul reminds us, of our lot. It's violence to deny our thirsts and hungers, isn't it?It's foolishness to seek the cross. Why would I WANT to wash the dishes, one may ask, when our wives say, I want you to WANT to wash the dishes. We don't want to wash the dishes, who WANTS to wash the dishes?? Well my dear beloveds, Bc the sincerest form of love, is suffering. Love. Unconditional love, it should "cost" us something. Not that if I do X, Y, and Z, I then purchased my wife's love and affection, that then have gained her "heavenly" reward of being her showing me kindness, mercy, and respect. No, even the publican does that. Does good, for favor. I'm talking pure agape love. And that kind of love, will always "cost" you something. It will hurt, in a manner of speaking. To do "love", is to take action, and it's hard, indeed, and the body, our ego, and our pride hates to "do" anything for the other, without reward. But to selflessly deny one's, self for God, purely for the infinite love of the other, for the unconditional love, for Him?! That's stupid, that's foolish, indeed, it's violence. And only those who do violence to themselves will enter the gates of heaven. 😳❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️
Brother,that is the truth. He is digging deep into the word of God.
Keep the good work on
Woooooooooooooooow halleluyah to the LORD Jesus
God is great
如今那些基督耶稣裡就不定罪了，因为賜生命圣靈的律在基督耶稣里釋放了'我'，使我脱离罪和死的律了'律法既因肉体软弱有所不能行的。神就差遣自己的兒子'成為罪身的形狀作了贖罪祭'在肉体中定了罪案使律法的義'成就在我们不随肉体'只随從圣靈人的身上。如今你们是因為聖靈的恩膏，這就是神的祝福。現在有人因為神被殺'被関'判刑'這些你不清楚'誰相信是天父的作為
John is the last prophet, and before Christ dispensation , the old testament prophets tried to search what manner the coming of the Lord, Jesus Christ would look like
John the Baptist was conceived of the holy ghost in the womb,violent and suffer is the move of the holy spirit starting from when John appeared on the scene,John was supposed to be a priest after is father's name and duty,instead he was led by the spirit into the wilderness,this controversy and is introduction of Jesus Christ to Israel curtails opposition to tradition under the Jewish Law.May God grant you revelation,stop reading Bible like Greek scholars and understanding of mere letter😇
I believe this
There is a little problem here, the bible says from John the Baptist until now, it does not say before John , therefore John was in the dispensation where violence ensued until the Kingdom which came through Jesus, which means hence Jesus , we enter into Kingdom legitimately . if we are in Jesus, we are automatically in Kingdom.
Halleluya we praise Christ .Dr Damina ithink the languages used to interpret brings confusion.
What a wisdom, kingdom of God is not in much talking
From my understanding of the bible, matt 11:9 is referencing John and not Jesus himself. Jesus is not making reference to himself as more than a prophet but John the Baptist in this context. This is clearly stated from matt 11: 7-10 when Jesus was addressing the multitude concerning John the Baptist. My take.
You are arguing blindly listen to him again and understand what is been referred to then the illumation of the word will come in .
@@akinolaoke3322 Read the Bible by your self and for your self.
FROM the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.
Matthew 11:12 ESV
I must have heard wrongly, but it seems as though Dr. Damina said the verse said BEFORE John the Baptist, and proceeded to give his explanation from there. "From" and "Before" connote different things, and thus the accurate interpretation of the verse cannot be what the man of God is saying in the video. For the record though, I concur with his assertion that the verse has nothing to do with the so-called spiritual warfare that is the interpretation and application held by many churches.
You are right with the difference there. I also commented same. From the days of John and until John are not the same time
It says 'from John'!
What an exigesis!!!!!❤
The same John who sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he is the one or they should wait for another. Even after seeing clearly he didn't fully believe
Don't forget that the holy ghost showed John who Christ was, but when John went to the prison he expected Jesus to come for his release but Jesus didn't because John's assignment was finished and he has to leave that's why Jesus told John's messanger to go back and tell John that what the scripture said about him is happening now, so is better to leave when the job is done.
Not until but its from days of John .............
那既然教宗是這教堂的建造者'那他為何容忍基督徒被殺這樣是什麼XYZ没有 和平就'没有平安。
Matt. 11:12 says, "and from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent take it by force". It does not say until John the Baptist. The violent in this verse refers to those who do violence to (persecute) the children of God. John the Baptist, Jesus, the 12 apostles except John (the apostle who wrote the book of Revelation), etc. were violently killed. Both false teacher Abel Damina and those he is trying to correct are wrong. I have always condemned those using the verse to pray to mean the violent refers to believers in Christ who take or try to enter the kingdom of God by force. The violent refers to those who try to stop the Church or the spreading of the Gospel of the kingdom of God by force. Take note of the simple present tense used, " suffereth " (old English which is the same as suffers) and not simple past tense 'suffered'.
@nwekechinedu157 GOD bless you. NO sir! It is not those who try to stop the church that is violent. Those who strive to make others abhorrent do but make themselves so. The foundation of Christian practice must be laid in Christian knowledge and faith. We must first understand how we receive Christ, and then we shall know the better how to walk in Him. Peace!
Therefore.there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.because.through Christ Jesus the law of the spirit.who give life has set you ？free from the law of sin and death,for what the law was powerless to do because.it was weakened by the flesh.God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin . offering.And so he condemned sin in the flesh.in order that the righteous.requirement of the law might be fully .met in us .who do not live according to the flesh.but according to the spirits 🙏🕊️🈴
This is a beautify dissection of that particular part. I always knew that the prayers in many Pentecostal churches were awkward. The bible said the violent taketh it by false, and we being children of peace are not violent so I stopped praying that nonsense prayers. However John 11:9 was talking about John and not Jesus. Jesus was saying that John is greater than prophet
Correct matt 11:9 is referencing John and not Jesus himself. Jesus is not making reference to himself as more than a prophet but John the Baptist in this context. This is clearly stated from matt 11: 7-10 when Jesus was addressing the multitude concerning John the Baptist
I love me some Dr. Damina, but he was wrong in this; the bible reads from the days of John until now.
Jesus Christ was given to prayers, the Apostles were given to prayers, we are taught to pray without ceasing. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness, rulers of darkness, e.t.c, hence we have to put on the whole armor of God. Being a Christ is not bread and butter, but we are more than conqueror through christ which strengthen us.
I don't think this man is given to much prayers, hence whatever he does not practice, he finds a way to explain it out of the scriptures.
Some things will not change except through fasting and prayers.
This Man is too much
Doesn't make sense ,if anything it sounds completely different to what the scripture is saying. I can't imagine why the translators can be so off. It does say before John, since the days of John till now.
How was this man able to manipulate those peoples minds that they were not able to see that there's a difference between "From the days of John " and "until John "!?
And This is actually common in almost all his sermons, twisting of scriptures in order to lead astray the minds of the simple...
James Bible MATTH 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.You wrong again,it got nothing to do with prophecy,MEANS FROM THE TIME OF JOHN THE BAPTIST ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, THE VIOLENT AND THE SUFFER IS THE MOVE OF THE SPIRIT,STARING FROM JOHN THE BAPTIST BECAUSE HE WAS FILLED WITH HOLY GHOST IN THE WORM.I AM SO SORRY.FOR THESE CONGREGATION 🤔
How many things have you taken by force?
@@titumark888 I'm not the one doing the violence,was Jesus Christ dead violence...if you listen to your answer let me know...second question, who was responsible for the ultimate death of Jesus Christ on the cross...and who was responsible in Genesis for the attempt slaying of Isaac,and finally in the book of rev 13.8 the Lamb of God that was "Slain" from the foundation of the world.please check in the dictionary the meaning of SLAIN,then we can reason together son of God...Be blessed 👃
Take your time in consuming revelations of Jesus. Don’t cram all at once. What he’s dealing with there is serious revelation knowledge. Get the foundation right first “Salvation Message” and the rest will make sense to you. You said you’re sorry for his congregation…smh! I’m surprised you’re boldly declaring your shallow understanding of Jesus instead of humbling yourself to learn more. Anyway…not everyone is ready to pursue in-depth the knowledge of Truth. But his congregation and myself are. Shalom!
Why you translation in to Greek.
You have the wrong consciousness. You have it all wrong.
Kingdom of god is your body. God Kingdom is within you start there. Paul. was in the new testament was a metaphysical Preacher. Start there.
Take Dominion. Is your right hand. Right side brain
This is why we cannot get anywhere. As a people. False enough is enough. People want spiritual not. Religion. Fr greek.