Ex-Group ED, NNPCL Says Rehabilitating PH Refinery Not Economically Feasible, Explains Why
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But why do our journalist seat in the studio and keep asking questions they can get answers easily by going to the field? Go to the site and speak to the contractor
That’s to show u the root of our issues, laziness n laxity on every side
Fat journalists
I watched the documentary released by NNPC, episode 1 and 2. The MD literally said "...what is left from the old refinery are just static equipments like Tanks, and metal frames. Everything else is state of the art, latest in the market". The MD said they have remodelled everything, adopt a modern day approach of refining, they have everything that can be found in a modern day refinery, the architecture of what is being done now is more complex than what we had before. that's what the MD said in the documentary. This man is making it sound like what they are doing is mere repair of the old refinery, patching old pipes and cleaning old plugs.
I heard the same thing but I am surprised that they refused to allow the Nigerian Society of Chemical Engineers to visit the refinery. We will see what happens over the next 3 months. The truth will be revealed soon.
Let's pray that it will not claim LIVES at the end of it all.
There’s something wrong with us; all of us Nigerians. We have more than enough in human and natural resources to make the country better but the deliberate sabotage by one and all of us is a huge problem.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Call the Minister in charge to respond to what this guy has said.
You are absolutely correct!
And the Minister in charge is also the President of Nigeria 🇳🇬
God will deliver us from this SABOTAGE SYNDROME.
Its heart breaking when you hear that you've been bought a new car. Only to realise it was your old car of 30 years repainted.
😢😢😢😢😢😢
You are absolutely 💯 nija use care is not meant for our bad traffic roads, rather it is meant for scrap market for melting instead of forcing our self to live by force pretending to drive a junk car by force.
Thank God for the life of this man. He has revealed a lot about the rot in NNPC.
He was part of the rod that destroyed the refinery. Don’t mind him..
@@moham.279 😂
I grew up hearing billions being used for turnaround maintenance all the time. It’s ridiculous that we are still on this level. Simply put some people just want us to suffer.
It is criminal to have men like this without using them tix refinaries they had superintended
There is an obvious lack of transparency in the turn around maintenance by NNPCL Why was the visit of the members of the Association of Chemical Engineers to the old PH Refinery (under reconstruction) aborted by NNPCL ? It will be necessary for the MD NNPCL to address the revelations made by Engr Ogedengbe on this TV programme Something is fundamentally wrong in the handling of the TAM contract Additionally the contractors need to shed more light on the work they are doing Why reconstruct the almost 60 years old refinery with outdated technology instead of rehabilitating the new refinery Is this not a rip off ?
Why are we not patriotic as Nigerians ??? Why do we lack the will power to do the right thing????
As our people say, “Nigeria na cruise…” I feel sorry for the professionals who work for any government agency in Nigeria. They are not listened to, they are compromised.
This is armchair journalism! What stops you guys from going to PH refinery in person, do all your findings and report back to us?
Very good question!
They won't allow them walk through the facility
The fact still remains that you can upgrade any refinery regardless of the age and configuration with the addition of new process units (CDU, VDU, NHT, DHT, SRR, CRU, FCC, SRU, and Isomerization unit) all depends, which particular refined products you want to target
You invited guests and you didn't allow him to talk smoothly to give us better information
That woman in other to put in her two kobe keep interrupting the man. All Nigerian billionaires are in oil business and they have destroyed this country. From oil to cement to sugar to flour in the hands of the very rich. They're the undertakes. Things was deliberately and intentional allow to die or killed so that dangota can survive. Steel industries the same thing. Who imports steel that is used to build everything? By going back to add lead to petrol means people will die soon.
Thank you my brother. I am over here pulling out my hair that these pretend journalists can't just shut up. Honestly, it takes the presence of a highly informed guest to make them all look stupid
Please am i hearing properly that the old refinering is the one currently being worked on. What about the new and recent one biko
Mr Ogedemgbe is 100% on point. Unless you are in the United States or other industrialized countries, with incredible "ON TIME CAPABLE MAINTENANCE", there is no way technically possible, to bring back a dead, moribund unit back to operation.
It is such a crying shame for Nigerian government to continue lying to it's people.
I am a Chemical engineer in the US with over 40 years of hands on, continuous experience. This nonsense, makes me very sick.
It is not even worth commenting on this issue. Fulani hegemony has killed Nigeria.
May God strengthen you sir. Graduate 2021 but I feel your pain sir😢
This is heartbreaking 💔
Very informative. Please in future invite only professionals like the former MD. Things are clearer
One quick question guys, can 1billion dollars build a profitable refinery, that can refine and produce a reasonable percent of PMS.
Thanks for exposing all of this, very informative and interesting , but nothing will come out of it
So, NNPCL had been fooling us that the PH Refinery will operate by the end of this year. And they did not even tell us that they were reconstructing the old refinery. Now, someone should tell us why Melee Kyari should continue in his office.
Kyari and others are still in Office because the likes of him serve the counterproductive interests of the President of the FGN and his cronies!
If Nigeria was a normal country, will the Chairman of INEC still be in his position?
You can see that our decision makers are our biggest problem. See the useless decisions that they're making. Why waste money on an old dead refinery? The parts to fix it are obsolete. Most of the OEM no longer exist, so those equipment can't be fixed.
This presenters are interupting the flow of discussion
The fact that this problem has been ongoing for over 30 years as ge alluded, willl fly over Nigerians aheads to ask for Accountability on the budgets for those years and an investigation and prosecution
We have been had by the same wise guys again. Same investors will never leave Nigeria. Nigeria is totally finished. We have been screwed over many times over.
The issues raised by Engr Alex includes engineering and environmental decision making that has been compromised by politics. Rehabilitating an old refinery that would not pass muster with modern environmental assessment is short term thinking. I agree the newer refinery has a higher capacity but may take a longer time but seems better from an economic, environmental and engineering perspective. In my opinion the latter seems better from a national perspective. I also found the repetitive questions asked by the anchors quite painful to watch. Some research by news anchors could be helpful.... I also advocate that the news organization have some info graphics constantly being displayed during the interview. Helps for retention so that repetition is minimal.
It seems to be pretty much impossible for a technocrat to get anything done properly in any ministry in this country. This is disheartening.
You are running on the misinformation given by one of the people who ran down the refineries. Those refineries are actually undergoing total transformation. It is almost like a new refinery now and would soon be commissioned.
the military were more discipline in running and managing the country asset
They are the ones who destroyed all these plants! I know, I lived on the Refineries all my life.
I can remember fuel scacity in Nigeria even in the 90s.
You don’t even whether you will be angry or just cry. Nigeria is a mess.
Please, Nigerians listen to this man. What a country called Nigeria 🇳🇬? Do Nigeria really I have hope? It's the same story in Ajaokuta .
Thks mr ogedegbe . i have better understanding of what's happening
Please, they should sell the old one to iron condemn abokis abeg... I trust my iron condemn people, they will put it to good use
Honestly that is the way forward. sell it as scraps to steel manufacturing companies
Valid and eloquent arguments that should be listened to by those concerned.
See the kind of intellectuals that should be made ministers that have real workable knowledge that will get the job done but APC govt only appoints ministers that are more interested in buying N160million car and collecting monthly allowance of N17million
We are in trouble as a country
He's also saying half truth as the rehabilitation is comprehensive. The phase one is meant to fix the old complex while phase two will fix the new complex in portharcourt refineries. The fact that you're not granted access to the complex doesn't mean you should not tell the truth. I also strongly believe it cannot produce this December even if it's completed as it has to go through commissioning to test all units
Why will they not allow knowledgeable people come in to see what they are doing? What are they hiding?
As a chemical engineer I weak for 9ja. This zobo too much. Counting down to 31st Dec.
Isn’t incredulous that an engineer can’t properly articulate himself.☝️
Thank you Sir for your professionalism. Those modular refineries do not have critical unit operations equipment for refining crude oil to generate PMS. True, after mechanical completion, then your carry pre-commissioning of the process units and systems after which the commissioning and start up can commence. It appears that the December 2023 start up date may not be realised. The problem is that no value assurance assessments were conducted before deciding to invest to upgrade the 65k barrels of oil per day old Refinery. This would have tested the robustness of their decision to work on the old Refinery.
Nigerian journalists have a lot to work on. It is only when they have intelligent guests like this man that their flaws are highlighted. Just shut up and let the man complete his sentence. Also, they both ask the same questions and refuse to ask the ones we're anticipating
You took it off my mouth. Channels is known to do better than this.
Omo, this uncle don cast them..
The issues raised by Engr Alex includes engineering and environmental decision making that has been compromised by politics. Rehabilitating an old refinery that would not pass muster with modern environmental assessment is short term thinking. I agree the newer refinery has a higher capacity but may take a longer time but seems better from an economic, environmental and engineering perspective. In my opinion the latter seems better from a national perspective.
They thought December was miles away. But here we are , waiting for some sweet tongues to tell us why they have failed. Maybe they will blame Obasanjo or Peter Obi for their failures
Please bring Daddy back.He hasn’t completed his outpouring of his wealth of knowledge .pls bring him back
What did Buhari achieved in Ajaokuta?
Buhari is a gross failure.
He spent Borrowed money fixing Ajaokuta steel plant that was built by a Ukrainian company in the former Soviet USSR.
The Russian took over and still yet Ajaokuta was a pipe drain of federal government funding.
The abandonment of the refineries is a crime by the Buhari led government.
It’s like the reality in his analysis and it’s implications has bursted my bubble!!
So, what happened to the $1.5b that was borrowed to fix the PH refinery in 2021? Where is that money? What is going on in that country, and why are we so quiet and docile?
This same Hausa NNPC who stole all Nigeria oil money
what am shocked is we have illegal refinaries. why cant the nation have those small refinaries.....how do those small refinaries do them
Oh my God this country is curse
Oga engineer they asked you for monies turn around maintenance?
The solution to this madness is divide this cake
To your tent oh Isreal.
It funny how all this past NNPC staffs!!! MDs always find an excuses like during thier time the refinery were working optimally!!!! Etc to remove themselves from the failure and corruption that ate into into the NNPC
If we had a very functioning institution
All of them both past n present would be prosecuted
Prosecuted for what, dictator? 😅
you dey mind am? @@oludayo11
As if we can't remember fuel scarcity in the 90s 😂😂
@@softdoc631 u Dey mind the man😂😂😂😂
He's also saying half truth as the rehabilitation is comprehensive. The phase one is meant to fix the old complex while phase two will fix the new complex in portharcourt refineries. The fact that you're not granted access to the complex doesn't mean you should not tell the truth. I also strongly believe it cannot produce this December even if it's completed as it has to go through commissioning to test all units
You think NNPC will allow you visit?
Another banger!
It’s nonsense to suggest that restoration of PH refinery is not economical because it is mistaken to overlook or ignore the importance a functional refinery will have in the economic regeneration of the area and the country in particular given its proximity to the petroleum products. To elevate PH to its right status as economic hub a functioning refinery is important in the package. The suggestion that it’s not economical to have a functioning refinery in PH simply serves the geopolitical interests the proponents.
Ol’boy, go listen again o. He is making that argument has regards, rehabilitating/reconstructing the old refinery compared to the new one, in the amounts in % of PMS that is produced. Kai, English no hard now
If I present empirical evidence to you that peter obi also said the restoration of pH refinery was not economical and he vehemently opposed it, would you believe it?
I agree with your submission.
EXACTLY. He is already giving the excuse for when this refinery is left to rot. If nigeria is serious about producing anything they would spend $10bn on this refinery knowing that it would recoup its cost easily.
It will be a waste of resources new build like the Dangote refinery will make more sense
With due respect, if we are not talking about restructuring the current government system, we will continue running in one giant circle. Refineries are not the only industries that have gone to waste; steel, bauxite, textile, agricultural and many more. The government will finish us if we keep waiting. They are benefiting from this confusion. A lion will not hunt wen him don chop belly full.
The Sunrise guy is obviously not paying attention to what their guest is saying and laboringly explaining, because he keeps asking redundant questions😢.
The Rehabilitation did not start in 2 years, its been one even in GEJ before the Audit by KPMG
Stop interrupting the guest!
Refinery will work fine but heads will roll some people will go for it
The patrol from 1965 was to drive Danfo not Posches and Benz 😂
I have always said Nigeria has been getting worse . We were better off in the past, even after the civil war.
This man must run for safety outside the country.
He is saying what politicians do not want to tell us.
Sad truth from him.
Corruption everywhere.
The guest was trying his darn hardest to convey the message of how intractably corrupt the system is, and the Dangote Refineries SCAM, without actually spitting it out, but the whole thing was just flying over the hosts' heads? Nā wāā ô 😭!
@emmanuelochieke1645
He is an expert on the subject. That is why he is honest .
And he asked why we are not asking experts instead of politicians, if the target is achievable.
Well, politicians will not allow experts to say the truth.
I also heard him when he said that as a team of experts and patriots, they wanted to inspect the refinery , but the visit was not allowed.
NNPC is such a corrupt organization in need of total overhaul.
if these refineries had been run by the private sector, they would have never been shut down.
Is your transmission of electricity not under the control of the private sector?
What happened to airtel? Was it not private? Why did Nigeria had to bail it out?
The only people that should have electricity are the people that can afford to pay for it. @@joshuafrank5838
The government should stay out of business and let the shareholders remove the board to make a company profitable.@@joshuafrank5838
No research from the journalist at All?
They will never allow this man and his group to enter into the Port-Harcourt refinery because it expose all their lies to the public.
It's hard to explain refinery process technology to the interviewers. I feel his pain 32:11 . Nonetheless, good interview.
Exactly what I noticed.
And because the journalists don't know the refining process, they couldn't ask the (right) key questions
Politicians grounded the refinery. This is very unfortunate.
I’m politicians, ministers n the mds like the one speaking here
What sort of journalists are these for God's sake. Interrupting this senior professional when he's giving sound submissions with rubbish questions.
Now we've lost the meat 🍖 of the interview.
The tears just dey start…Do you people really think Tinubu cares. None of these sailings will stop him from repeating the same thing again
If lead (plumbum) chemical material that has been legally prohibited is required in production of petroleum in the PH refinery, would such act not amount to breach of local and international regulations, given the hazardous nature of the element to human health and the environment? Are the operators of the refinery prepared to face the legal consequences of such decision to human lives and the environment?
Lead cannot be used again. That 1965 refinery is old and should have been decommissioned.
This man is one of the issues, he has been lying so they dont make sense. He said it was 100% in 91 then it hasnt worked since 1990? He is just rewriting history.
There are two refineries in Port Harcourt - the old ( had been down for about 40 years) and the new that was at 100% capacity in '91
Why is this country call Nigeria always doing backward instead of forward based on this man analysis? Nigeria is always doing backward
Dumb questions...
This is what happens with brown envelope journalism, you're always walking on eggshells not to vex your bosses
Our journalists ask the dumbest questions, because they are dumb, and they do no research to know the subject matter they are supposed to ask question on. This is sad and a big disservice to Nigeria.
The journalists wouldn't even allow the guest to finish a statement. So annoying.
They are all dumb, because I went to school with one of them. He's still not bright at more than 50 years
Story at the top.. story story story ..
48 derivatives is found in a drop of crude oil so it will be much better to rehabilitate kaduna and the new porthacourt refineries and Nigeria will make more money from our crude oil.
boilers and electric switchgear would be common to the 1965 plant and the 90s plant.The second phase will be easy
I am sure the government has the plan to start with the construction of the old refinery because of the cost and time to put it back in operation. January should be feasible
The speaker says it is the oldest refinery that has not worked for 40 years that this government has gone to spend our money on ! The oldest and the one that will deliver least result!😢
The presenters/journalist of this program needs some training. They just kept interrupting and displaying their naivety. This was suppose to be an opportunity for people to learn. This is quite appalling !
WHY ARE THE NIGERIAN REFINERIES NOT WORKING?
The guest was trying his darn hardest to convey the message of how intractably corrupt the system is, and the Dangote Refineries SCAM, without actually spitting it out, but the whole thing was just flying over the hosts' heads? Nā wāā ô 😭!
I think it is just better all nationalities go their seperate ways because sone tribes are only part of nigeria because of crude oil
President Bola Tinubu, must set up a presidential panel, to conduct deep investigations into the trillions of Naira released by president Muhammadu Buhari, to NNPCL group MD Anaheim Kyari for full refurbishment to maximum capacities, to stop import of PMS
At 9:03 you can clearly see they just spray painted the pipes and did not get new ones. Nigeria you are being fooled.
Another scam loading...
Appalling performance.
You guys at Channels were worse than shallow. You obviously did no pre reading and had no briefs.
I weep for Nigeria. Not worth serving for. May God strengthen you Mr Adam Ogedengbe.
Your mentality is the same the Soulless evil Individuals that called themselves leader's that are looting Nigeria and destroying her Greatness possesses, keep that in your mind and I pray your likes do not happen to our beloved country Nigeria again in future,, it takes only a citizen or citizens that love and respect their Nation unconditionally regardless of what she's going through" to protect her and take her to her Greatness when given the opportunity and not those that devalued her and disrespect her
If a man like this runs for President, you will hear stories of him not being from the right tribe or religion. People who are knowledgeable are never given opportunities in Nigeria. So sad .
Not everyone can be President. That you are the best in your professional life does not mean you can manage a country.
@@aa-cw8ky I guess you are right. Maybe we should leave it for people who speak incoherently
It is so funny former MDs of failed NNPCL are coming out from woodworks to give stupid advice. But you got paid for our refineries to work. Put those refineries on sale and you will see these folks in front angling to buy them. I wish you were Chinese.
Wow!!! Doesn't the Channels TV have more intelligent interviewers than these two, causing the Engr to repeat himself over and again. Channels could do better.
This man is prophet of doom
Let us encourage d zeal of d thinkers, workers nd pray dt it works
Could it be choosing to work on the old PH refinery instead of the new PH refinery as he said is more complex was because reconstruction cost of the new PH refinery was many folds more than the $1.5 billion it’s costing to reconstruct the old refinery which the government then could not bear? It’s understandable the financial stretch the country grapples with, so Nigerians should not be misled of some conspiracy theories by the past government behind its decision to repair the old refinery.
The cost implications of importing petrol is far more than whatever cost it will take to repair the newer Port Harcourt Refinery.
God bless and guife the president of Nigeria
Nigerians when will you care to ask where are fhe refineries pdp built in 16 years and that which apc build in 8 years. Despite the revenues they have made from oil export and sale
The issues raised by Engr Alex includes engineering and environmental decision making that has been compromised by politics. Rehabilitating an old refinery that would not pass muster with modern environmental assessment is short term thinking. I agree the newer refinery has a higher capacity but may take a longer time but seems better from an economic, environmental and engineering perspective. In my opinion the latter seems better from a national perspective. I also found the repetitive questions asked by the anchors quite painful to watch. Some research by news anchors could be helpful.... I also advocate that the news organization have some info graphics constantly being displayed during the interview. Helps for retention so that repetition is minimal.