The Rise & Fall of Samur Maykr | Samuel Hayden Re-Edit | FULL Doom Lore EXPLAINED
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- Dr. Samuel Hayden went through many names in his long life. Samur Maykr, The Seraphim and Sam Hayden. Over the years, his actions affected not only the angelic Maykr species of Urdak, but he also helped humanity throughout their discovery of Argent Energy with the help of The Doom Slayer.
In this video, we delve deep into the enigmatic character of Samuel Hayden in Doom's storyline. Who is he really? What are his true motives? Could he be the ultimate villain behind Doom's most epic battles? Join us as we uncover the secrets of this mysterious figure and explore the hidden depths of Doom's storyline. Get ready for a wild ride as we break down the lore behind one of the most intriguing characters in video game history.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:53 The Maykr Species & Ascension of Samur Maykr (Before Doom)
06:36 Samur's Betrayal of his Species (Before Doom)
13:40 Move to Earth (Before Doom)
15:36 The UAC & Discovery of the Argent Fracture (Before Doom)
23:06 The Doom Slayer (Doom 2016)
26:19 War on Earth (Between Doom 2016 & Doom Eternal)
31:08 The Return of Samur Maykr (The Ancient Gods: Part 1)
35:49 Legacy
36:35 Closing Thoughts
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This is a re-edit of an older video I posted a couple of months ago that was age restricted to 18+. This version now follows the strict community guidelines. I loved putting this video together initially and dislike that I have had to repost it with some more friendly visuals.
The older version is still available if you are 18+.
I have so many amazing topics I'm eager to explore over the next few months. Next week, we take a deeper dive into the Resonance Cascade in Half-Life.
What did you think of Samuel Hayden during your playthrough of the series?
Love watching your videos when they come out thank you for making them ❤
Wait, what did they even find to flag as 18+?!
@@ShatteredGlassUnicron CZcams is real funky about video game gore now. Doom is mostly gore
CZcams: *"You cannot just repost a video on Samuel Hayden."*
[New Objective: Repost the Hayden video.] 😎
@@feralprocessor9853 Wait, wasn't it Olivia Pierce? ;/
Imagine being an ancient, hyper-intelligent being trying to enact a master plan that has been in the works for centuries, involving the careful guidance of the scientific evolution of an entire planet, and you end up having to rely on an unstoppable, uncontrollable lunatic whose approach to literally everything is to smash it to pieces, tear it apart, or blow it up.
Correction, rip and tear
Lol
i mean, to doom guy's credit, he does it *really* well
@@billlumbergh9251 Repeating a catch phrase isn't the same thing as being correct.
@@billlumbergh9251 the only thing I hate about doom videos is the cringe ass ways people force rip and tear into everything
@@luismiranda8944..I agree, it rips up the sentence & tears up the context... 😮 ..just wish they'd stop😂
From mathematical genius, into mad robot, thats a life to be worth of
I wish he stay as robot Samuel, cool voice and cheeky character.
We need more Sam
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars!
Samuel Hayden actually a being a Makyr in human form does make sense though because in Doom 2016's codex entries, its stated that he was a born genius in all fields related to science. In fact, he also recovered VEGA(which was actually the Father) from a secret location on Mars before the events of Doom 2016.
Also he designed and developed alot of the tech we saw in Doom 2016's UAC Mars Base.
Its most likely Samur Makyr during his transformation into Samuel Hayden, reverted back to his original Makyr programming as designed by Davoth i.e: to research, design and develop new technologies to solve a particular problem.
I think Hayden did become human in a sense. His decisions and how he reacted to events prior to his tranfiguration were more emotional than anything. But that's when he stopped caring about humanity that the Marine burned bridges with him.
As tragic as his end was, I feel like he should've returned in Part 2 to give closure to his arc. Maybe endorsing the Slayer's actions _"because there is no choice"_ at this point. We know that he's still around, but he's pretty much lost his mind at this point.
The "lore" was written by little children, seemingly. Which is sad, they sold us a "universe" and all we got was a very contrived and discombobulated lore that makes no sense and contradicts itself constantly.
@@jojolafrite90 Entirely subjective. And as a 40k fan, I can safely say that no matter how convoluted and contrived lore can be, it doesn't necessarilly impact quality.
Plus, if you don't like the lore and are just here for gameplay, feel free to skip it. :/
My first name is Hayden.
Even when his consciousness was transferred to a bipedal robot he still kept a sense of wisdom. I remember that holograph tape that played in Doom 2016 when he was addressing Olivia Pierce for delving to deep in the Occult.
@@jojolafrite90 have you paid attention modern politics lately. It's literally a doom plot. You got red and blue to fighting when they are used pawns by public evil forces and one that's hidden but people are aware of the evil taking place.
It's worth noting that all of the in game lore we have access to is suspicious. As in, there is no absolute outside source provided to us. So it is equally likely that Davoth was in fact not a threat, and was usurped by his power hungry creations. Or perhaps he planned to eliminate them, and they acted first
100% agree with this. In this case though, I'd agree with Davoth just because during the fight with him, The Father does confirm that Davoth's version was correct.
Yes, their could be bias at any level of the narrative. It doesnt hurt at the meta level money can retcon his motives to sell more games, the ultimate hell energy
Nice job...subbed
@@Skyrionn Yes, despite his fall, I think he is the _least_ biased source. Your lore videos are awesome, please keep it up
@@stephenbridges9915 Typically I cringe at this kind of stuff, but ID did it so well I don't mind. The retcons were mostly consistent and tasteful. Anyway, I'd be perfectly fine with them continuing the story in some way. There's a lot we don't know about the bigger picture and Hell probably isn't truly sealed. I could see a HL2 kind of progression where like Zen, the death of Davoth allows something to come through from another dimension into Hell. Something worse
As usual. Your work into unraveling the complex Lore of Doom is astounding.
I really love your work on Doom and Half Life franchises, easily my favourite channel by a long shot!
Keep up the good work, man, you have my full support
That's super kind of you to say! It's a lot of work to put this timeline into order but its so worth it. When put in order, the story is amazing!
Thanks for the support.
From half-life to Portal to Doom. Your work is definitely recognised. I am just one of your fan but I do share your videos to all my gamer friend. ❤❤❤
Thank you! I appreciate you!
@@Skyrionnnow do a 2 hour lore video on the banshee from fable 2!
you have a great voice and a sense of clear and understandable storytelling. A perfect Combo for this channel!
This was needed. I was always lost about Sams origins and what he knew when, I just he wasnt all bad and did have humanities interest at heart for 85% of his arc
Yeah but in doing so he made the same mistakes as the Khan Makyr. They both thought they could use Hell's resources to help solve problems.
Man you can tell how much energy and time u put into these videos and the story telling is so well done, I’m so glad I’ve foiund this channel your work is much appreciated
I'm curious why Samuel allowed the production of Argent Energy on Earth, knowing full well what it was and what it would do.
I'd love a prequel game just about the ARC and Operation Hellbreaker.
gotta say, with how paranoid the kahn maykr was about the prophecy, how are you not gonna kill the random dude that shows up randomly and starts kicking ass lol, she's already been roasting sentinels in the divinity machine and im sure they were much less conspicuous 🤷♂
I'll watch this edit after I come back from getting some pizza and groceries for lunch. 👀🌟
I hope you enjoyed it!
loving all the work you put into these! i hope your channel continues steady growth as these videos tend to help me fall asleep at night lol!
It's amazing how obsessed with ripping and tearing I was that I missed all this. Good work dude
Excellent work. A pleasure to listen to you sir. Thank you for making these videos. ❤
Its weird the hierarchy of the doom universe. You have extremely powerful beings created by gods of this universe, then you have the wraith, beings that are seemingly more advanced and even beyond the understanding of the makers and they just came about from seemingly nowhere. Perhaps they come from a dimension beyond even Davoths creation. No reason they can't amend the story to him being just a subject of a greater power.
That's what makes the lore so intriguing. I think that it's pretty clear Davoth wasn't the supreme being. He is the demiurge. Something created him to create the material realm. There's plenty of evidence; the Wraith, who as you pointed out seem to be a mystery even to the Maykrs. The world spear, which the intern tellingly remarks is giving off readings even _Urdak_ couldn't rival. Also, the ancient gods. They look like Seraphim, and yet Seraphim are said to be "bound to the Father's will". Okay, so why do we see some of them at Immora, at least tacitly approving what Davoth is doing?
I think that Davoth, Urdak, the Maykrs, etc. are a crude, technological copy of a true higher realm. This is in line with Gnostic belief systems (proto-Christianity) which the writers of DOOM's lore were clearly using as inspiration
@@jakeg3733 I'm still catching up from like 2020ish, I think that was before the latest expansion of the lore, Davoth or the Wraith weren't even a whisper yet. The "Icon of Sin" was the last stop on that journey if I recall. It is all very intriguing so far, I think it's apparent that there are more advanced powers out there. I think they will awaken to warn of the approach of a new and much greater enemy that they were evolving Urdak warriors for to fight for them.
@@DeathBYDesign666 So on your last point, I absolutely agree. There's always something worse out there and since Doom/Quake are probably in the same continuity that's what I'm thinking is coming next. Hell, being connected to almost every other world, is like an airport terminal and now that it has been neutered other nasty things could use it as a beachhead, in theory. It's like the Combine invading after Xen has been dealt with in Half-life
The Wraiths were actually shown in Doom 2016. We got a few data logs and if you remember, we had to put 3 of them down to close the well. And while they weren't super fleshed out yet it was implied that they were incredibly powerful primordial beings that could power entire civilizations. Just 3 kept the Sentinels going for who knows how long. Davoth however wasn't named until TAG1, prior to that it was just the mysterious Dark Lord
There's a ton of good lore and possibilities still left in this universe and I'm excited to see what they come up with next. I'm betting we'll get some hints about a real higher power along with some more details on the greater cosmology of the world they built
hell yes a re-edited doom video
Thanks for the re-watch!
The iconic universe full of characters.... That were all shoe horned into the last two games.
Just found your channel, the quality and presentation of your videos remind me a lot of NerdOfTheRings but with video game content insteaad. Subbed, my dude.
You made a great video .That was a great essay .
"The father somehow intervened" hmm...
he cant keep getting away with it
SAMUEL HAYDEN??
More like
SAM___ H_YDE_
Great video man!
Thanks!
Hey there, so I found your channel via Fable lore. I love and very much appreciate your hard work. :) Thank you.
Welcome aboard! There's some more Fable coming at some point this year :D
I literally watched this video yesterday, what a timing
Time traveller
The only thing that would suck with a new doom game is that the music would suck as mick gordon wouldnt want to work or create the music for id software of bethasda softwork after the shit they pulled on him. They really shot themself in the leg with the bfg
That's a worry I have too.
Wow this was very informative!
Tbf even if he sealed it the doom guy wants demons dead not in a locked box
ayyyy another Skyrionn video!!! :D
Welcome welcome!
IDK if everyone agrees but at least in my personal opinion, I liked Samuel Hayden and he was one of my favorite characters, I couldn't believe what I saw when I played The Ancient Gods and saw that we later fought against him, although Samuel or Samur He was not a saint nor did I consider him a villain, and it saddened me that in the end we were against him
I got into playing DOOM around 2020. Played DOOM 2016 for the first time and was hooked, then found out Eternal das about to drop?? Bro, I was hyped. I never knew there was so much depth to the lore behind the story even in 2016. I always just thought the wraiths were some elder demon that died and were being utilized for their power. I would’ve never guessed the truth was so much deeper.
I believe the Main doom timeline is Part of the Wolfenstein new order timeline
Keen to see more doom content from you friend
I'm working on another right now!
Good video skyrionn.
Thanks Hyperion!
it's dumb because when he became a robot he kinda achieved immortality
He would rather risk transfiguration than being stuck in a hollow non spiritual shell.
he would've had more time to do what he wanted and
he could've just ended his own life after he was done
not really a "risk" if it's a complete certainty
and not really a hell of any kind
unless you think being alive is a type of hell
I really wish I could play this game in VR with motion controls. I can't believe it hasn't been done yet.
Oh jeez - the amount of moving would knock me sick! You have a stronger stomach than I do!
@@Skyrionn I've played DOOM 1-3 in VR, Quake 1-2, Half-Life 1-2. No problems with movement. It feels great.
@@mado-wh4jv DOOM VFR is garbage. The controls are so bad, it’s unplayable. I’d rather play the main campaign with modern VR controls.
@@djp1234with how fast Doom Eternal is compared to the previous games (retardedly fast), I'm really not sure it'd work.
@@Chloroxite I have no problem playing the original doom in VR, where you run as fast as a rocket.
Oh shoot, I gotta play the new games NOW. I’m getting stuff spoiled for me, and it’s my own damn fault for it! 😣 I just have such a big backlog!
Enjoy!
Now I know what I’m gonna be watching for 4 hours
Appreciate it!
It must suck living in a universe where god and satan are essentially the same being.
Oof. . . . . . So hey there bud. . . I hate to have to break this to ya but. . .
Best channel
Thanks!
What’s the song at the beginning I’ve never known it’s name
Is it me.. or is the reason that everything went wrong was Samuels fault? Due to his loyalty overiding common sense?
1. Taking the fathers life sphere caused the Maykers to make a pact with Hell.
2. In developing argent technology, He basically laid the foundation for our realities invasion by hell.
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Samuel Hayden 18+ sounds like someone stumbled on to a VERY specific R34 channel.
Yo I know that I might sounds stupid but the only dumb question is the one unasked. So if the doom slayer was made using the power of the maker. Then using argent energy for super soldiers was theoretically possible. Not say that there would be more doom slayers just wondering if a weaker version was possible to make? I mean teleportation, energy conversion, dimensional transportation, was achieved so clunky super bois should have been an option, right?
Not exactly. The Sentinels are about as OP as one could make mortals. The Slayer was different, because he was actually gifted with a piece of Davoth (aka God) himself. That's what powered the divinity machine, and it's implied that the only reason he survived this process was bottomless rage. So unless there are more shards of Davoth lying around, Doomguy is the apex predator of this universe
As for empowering mortals with Argent, bad idea. Initially it works. But it also has a corrupting influence over time. The Sentinels found this out the hard way. It is the longer path to being subverted by Hell but the end result will be the same, Hell owns your ass
Dang they got ya one way or another. Thanks didn't remember any moment or lore pages of this topics so thanks.
@@josephsmith3976 That's the worst part about Hell. Even knowing of it's existence means the eventual downfall of your world. Could be in 10 years, could be 10,000 but the only way to avoid that fate is to have zero contact with those assholes
Gotta say, I really dislike what they did to Hayden in Eternal. I loved the charming but scummy douchebag type thing they were going for in 2016. Turning him into the Seraphim in Eternal was a massive waste imho.
I did not realize that demon was Olivia I just assumed the demons killed her. lol
I always loved Samuel Hayden
I think Hayden wanted to become a god himself and escape transfiguration.
Yeah but he already was able to gain immortality by transferring his brain into a robot lol
He already had escaped transfiguration by becoming a cyborg, and he very clearly had no plans on being above or in control of The Father
Why do the UAC people keep saying it, then? And why does he look so dying near the end in the DLC. To be fair, I don't think the "lore" they tried to make and that they sold us ("a doom universe" yeah sure) makes much sense.@@fossfox
Hell yeah, more Doom!
There's even more on the way too!
@Skyrionn I can't wait for it to release already!! Keep up the awesome work!
Plz do UAC video :D
With that mechanical body you’d think Samuel would be able to break anyone’s back.
broooooooooo this is cool
Thanks bud! It is. I love this lore so much!
Me too I agree what you say man
Thanks!
WAIT WAS THIS GUY THE GOOD GUY OF DOOM ALL ALONG 💀💀💀
the dimension home to planet earth and argent D'nur means earthly realm
I'm a simple man. I see a Skyrionn video, I click.
The best kind of man.
Samur Makyr aka Samuel Hayden will return in Doom The Return of The Father.
the devs really went ham with this guy all to make a sam hyde joke
So is Sam evil or neutral through this entire thing
Do you have a discord still?
There is still a Discord but it's not a Skyrionn server anymore.
Is there a link I can join?
Message me on Instagram or Twitter and I'll send it to you
Comment for the algorithm
Gameplay
:Gun shoot funny robot 😈🔫
The lore
: god demon religion 💀
Nice vid anyways subbed :D
He did all good but went about it in the wrong way. He knew the slayer only wanted to slaughter anything and everything that's evil, i don't know why he expected paid back👀 the slayer would even slaughter god himself due to all the rage.
I don’t buy that Hayden and Samur are, or at least always were, the same.
Hayden is Gypsy
I do like how the Satan himself (Dark Lord) kinda got pissed off so much at the Father (God) for betraying him and succeding him that he unleashed hell on all of his previous creations to prove he is the one true leader of everything that exists
In my opinion, he is right... But also not, just because you created something it doesn't give you the right to destroy it. Perhaps the Father has foreseen this would happen eventually whether or not he succeeded him and that's why doomguy was basically created, to put an end to senseless slaughter and end hell's way of life (death and combat)
Baphometh is the owner of hell .
@@sovarosepisthmwn2449. It's really the satanic Roman Catholic Church. They invented the baphomet :)
Curse you algorithm! Well, I might as well give this one a comment as well ❤
Thanks! It's a frustrating thing!
:o
:)
I love how humanity had mastered system space travel and colonization, literally terraformed Mars to have a breathable atmosphere _(which is pretty much physically impossible. There's a reason Mars atmosphere is mainly CO2. Because it's denser than air. But even at it's most dense, ground level it's slightly thinner than the air at the peak of Mt Everest. Then there's the planetary magnetic field issue)_ able to travel to and harness power from another dimension. And no doubt, has many other advanced technologies compared to real life.
But still weren't able to to discover a way to harness the power of the greatest source of energy in the entire solar system. The Sun. It couldn't have been that serious of an energy crisis. If you can Terraform a planet in a few decades, especially Mars. Than harnessing Solar energy should be child's play.
I think they took the lore too far. Samuel Hayden was a much cooler character and made way more sense before they tried to retcon him into a Seraphim. The same goes for VEGA being the Father. I feel like they just didn't know what to do with these characters so they put them in roles that didn't make sense
I feel like 1,000 years from now this will be like religious texts to from our era just saying. Also doom would have been a killer book
Has anyone seen the weird art of him or just me
Awful shame you had to reupload because of YT age restricting your video
I know. Luckily it doesn't happen too often but Doom is one of the more tricky games to avoid those systems. Great to see you Cody!
@@Skyrionn Yeah I suppose, surprised you didn't cop one from HL2 either though. I meant to ask is there any plans for some Fable lore in future?
I've been lucky with HL so far!
With Fable, I do currently have something in the works - but it won't be posted for a while :)
@@Skyrionn Very much so. No way really that's music to my ears can't wait for it. You have a great talent for reading lore but specifically fantasy!
SAM___ H_YDE_
29:10 oh yeah I was the Major on the right I can confirm that Hayden wasn’t a good in fighting …..he lied on us as the demons closed in he moved to fight and we he will do the whole fighting just to be teared off by Imp demon 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I only just started playing doom eternal after my girlfriend convinced me to play it and its not bad...but its nothing like the og doom in my opinion kinda turned into a run and jump sim where as the og doom lets you stand in one spot and mow demons down but i guess it makes more sense considering that tech has advanced i mean im sure og doom would have had it if they could have lol new doom is missing that fear of the flashing light and a dark hallway though its more of a hack and slash shoot and blast type game now.
Wait Vega is God?!
Without Vega there would be no hope to save humans.
Hello algorithm. I know I haven't said it out loud, but I think your cute~ It would be awesome if you made this video go hard on the searches ;)
If you think the plot of doom eternal is dumb then you haven't paid attention to modern politics.
Elon Musk be like
Lucy
A comment for the algorithm!
Doom eternal is beautiful the environmental details looks so good
This is the most ridiculous lore ever made
It was actually really interesting, though they messed up the story in the DLCs unfortunately.
nah