Is Coding Still Worth Learning in 2024?
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00:00 - Is coding still worth learning in 2024?
01:16 - Is AI replacing software engineers?
02:12 - Impact of AI on software engineering
03:31 - The problem with AI-generated code
05:15 - How AI can help software engineers
05:53 - Does AI really make you code faster?
07:05 - Can one AI-powered engineer do the work of many?
08:07 - Future of software engineering
#coding #techinsider #ai
I'm 34 and made a career shift to programming about a year and a half ago!
I encourage you to embark on the adventure of learning programming too.
from where u learnt coding and in which domain r u
Well said and so true!!
Would love to hear your learning path.
@@KUMAR-gq8sb
- PHP Developer - [ Laravel Framework ]
- I've learned mostly from different sources like CZcams, articles and Documentation
35 and started 6 months ago, im not going to give up
You still need a reasonable amount of coding knowledge to even work alongside AI in the first place, so no , learning coding will never be worthless.
Exactly. Also, the things you can do with AI are proportionate to your level of knowledge of programming. So, the more complex the task, the greater the level of programming knowledge you must have to properly instruct AI.
@@Nostalgia_SpaceFacts. Very underrated comment right here
For now yes but that will change humans will slowly be taken out of the loop.
@@bobdillon1138 If AI replaces software developers then no white collar job is safe, outside of maybe healthcare.
@@josh2482 Basic healthcare can be very easily replaced with AI, there are even AI therapy models that are being successful, BUT... we still need human contact, that's what is going to stop AI eventually.
Not to mention that learning how to solve problems by code also teaches you how to solve problems unrelated to coding since the same approach applies, i.e. breaking down the problem into manageable pieces ultimately solving a bigger problem
Great point👍 problem solving in any field is very valuable.
Facts. Learning how to code sharpened my problem-solving skills. Also, something that I noticed, which isn't necessarily related to coding, but technology/software. While learning how to use ChatGPT, it dawned on me that in conversations, I don't always ask the best questions and so the response I get may seem surface level. I learned, through prompt engineering, how to word inquires in a clear / concise fashion and tailor them to the persons level of understanding, temperament, etc.
Neah, most of the programmers didn't even question 2020-2022, they followed the heard.
@@astrarai-thesobercoderAlso keywords can be huge in getting AI to understand what your talking about. It seems to like “jargon” and knowing the vocabulary really helps how AI responds
AI CAN BE COMPLEMENTARY TO CODING NOT REPLACE DEV.
THANK YOU SO MUCHHH for making this video!!!!!!! Watched the tech lead video a couple of weeks ago and I was so depressed and wanted to give up my childhood dream of becoming a software engineer. Your video gave me so much hope and optimism and that's all i need. Thank you so much Mosh
never listen to the ppl that just want to discourage u
This is the most sensible answer to this burning question I have seen yet. Thanks for this amazing explanation. Couldn't agree more!
Love your channel and have purchased your classes. I have been doing Python for about 9 years and frameworks for about the last 5. I think this is a hard to answer question. I've been playing with some AI code for the past year or so just for giggles. I think there will always be a home for people who do coding but I do think that entry level jobs are going to be torched. Just over the past year, the code I have pulled from AI has gotten pretty strong. I think people should still learn to code because it is not perfect code (like you said). I code for fun so I will keep going. As for anyone who thinks they can just do a 3 month bootcamp and get a 6 figure job ..... nope. I agree with you.... learn to code so you can understand how to repair the flawed AI code. Thanks for you channel and your courses. Best.
Excited to hear about this one
This is the first time I watch a video from you, I get your point and I share it, but what I'd like to remark is how cool your videos' animations are, it's incredibly fluent and so dinamic, I know It may sound weird, but I really wanted to call it out, because I tend to akwnowledge these kind of things, is that I'm able to understand when a channel has quality and a really well-kept, and definetaly yours is one of them.
PD: Thanks for the information, the fact you used real data and not just your personal opinion is just great.
You are a life saver, mosh. Thank you!
this is what I needed to hear, thx
No one makes content like Mosh ...this video just made me have a renewed interest in software engineering and given me a new insight into the field ... I've been into coding like 3years and has been life changing
Absolutely agree as a programmer in second generation. My dad used to program mainframe and his job was vastly different from mine.
very clear and concise. Deeply thought out just like your tutorials 👏👏. I completely agree with you - computational thinking is on the rise
Glad it was helpful!
CODING WILL NEVER DIE. It's like making a cake for a birthday. If someone buys it from a shop, the shop owner might not care that much about the purpose you give it. However, if someone close to you makes your cake, then they know what you like, how many people to serve, the requirements for each party member and most importantly, love. AI has no love. It is humanity's only rightful servant. It serves us and it does not have a close connection to us all. Code won't die because of the benefits only humans can add to the recipe / program.
I don't understand what you just said but as long as the theme is "Coding will never die" I agree with with you😃
You don't understand what AGI means.
@@germansniper5277 They'll get it one day. They'll realize neurons aren't special and silicon can do everything neurons can do but more organized and efficient.
We are but seamstresses watching the debut of the loom
Use Claude Opus and you'll know that coding is already dead - there is always a delay in every industry before the next advancement catches up. So no I would not advise anyone to learn high level coding - which isn't really programming anyway just AIW (Application Instruction Writing) which AI can easily do and will do even better in the future.
tell that to money saving comapnies who wont hire us
Well said, the analysis is on point. Only caveat I would add is that "software engineering" is a generic term and encompasses many, many different roles from front-end, back-end, database, networking, security, IT operations, etc. Some of these roles will be more impacted than others. For example, IT operations folks spend a lot of time figuring out where the alert came from, what caused it, what needs to be fixed to get service back online etc. -- AI is really good at finding such patterns (same with security -- anywhere pattern recognition is a key skill being used).
I agree with your point of view
Thank you for making such a realistic & optimistic video
Thanks so much for making this video!
You are the boss! I really like the way you carefully pick words to reach both hearts and minds! In fact, you're a genius!
I started learning software engineering officially January this year and I turned 40 in February. I have been wondering if I made the right choice because of my age. This video is all I needed to stop worrying. I have competed HTML, CSS, and I'm doing both C and JS at the moment. Thank you.🙏
Wow, thank you for the lovely words! I’m glad I could help you out. There are always nasty comments but I do what I do to help people like you. Keep it up, believe in yourself and you’ll be in a great place! 👍
C is an interesting choice for sure, I'm sure that will help you understand more than people who use more high-end programming languages.
@@programmingwithmosh Thank you Mosh, you maybe don't know what a profound impact you have on peoples' lives... I am a travelling sailor and I was a diver until recently, I had to give up diving for medical reasons, and I have no other qualifications. I had no clue what to do and depression hit hard until I found your 6hr Python for beginners video a few weeks ago. I've fallen in love with programming in python, and haven't had a single doubt that this is what I am going to do for a living. You have given me a reason to live, not even exaggerating
@@sailordiverFU from where you are learning coding. In which domain are you? I am really interested in coding, thanks
Yes, I started at 49 and landed my first IT job at 53 a few weeks ago. Now I'm a Systems Analyst, just do it!
Thanks, Mosh, you're an uplifter-- not that I was going to stop learning or anything haha.
yup ur pfp is similar to mine too
@@Epic_Coding from where you are learning coding. In which domain are you? I am really interested in coding, thanks
Thanks mosh give everyone confidence everytime ❤
Love your content men. Always conscise, entertaining, and informative. Keep it up!
Thank you! I've nbeen trying to tell my fellow Compsci students this for a while!
Thank you for this!
Thank you mosh, For giving this better clarity .
This waiting music is relatively smooth. 🔥
AI can automate many tasks traditionally performed by programmers, such as code generation, debugging, and optimization. However, it's unlikely to completely replace programmers anytime soon. Human creativity, problem-solving skills, and understanding of complex systems are still essential for many aspects of software development. AI can augment and streamline the work of programmers, making them more efficient and allowing them to focus on higher-level tasks.
Also AI can't invent anything. You will still need to share your idea and ask for implementation
Coding is not dead. Coding is evolving because coding is the foundation of AI.
Math is the Foundation
Mosh!!!! You must be getting inundated with these questions for you to be producing so many videos. Thanks for the video.
The compiler example really makes a good explanation. Noice
Great as always, thank you!
I just turned 41 and know absolutely zero about coding but am considering it because I want a total change. Yours is the second video I have watched immediately after that Tech Lead guy (?) Two VERY different videos lol yours is much more optimistic and isn't pushing for us all to become billionares. And now I think I'll take a look at your courses, thanks dude
I am 42 with two kids and a wife, started learning a couple of years ago and am currently in school. If you want to do it. Go for it bud.
@@bestfootforward4586 this is the energy we need on social media 👌🏾
@@bestfootforward4586 this is the energy we need on social media 👌🏾
Loved It Mosh 💯 Great 👌
I always tend to hear out both sides of a debate so the "vested interest" comments had me a bit worried you may be exaggerating or cherrypicking in the other videos. The real world science you provided in this video really eased my concerns. thank you!
I’m glad you found the video helpful. I did my best to be transparent and educate people with real data, not just my opinions.
What real world science? None of what he showed was science... it was financial boilerplate meant to appease the capitalists.
How does "projected" mean anything scientific here; when the "projections" of where AI and robotics would be given by the industry leaders have shifted WELL over a decade within the last 18 months.
If anything the SCIENCE shows the opposite - every single time estimate benchmark that the scientific community has placed on these developments has been absolutely smashed. Over and over every single estimate has been beat without any signs of slowing down. The rate of increase is mind boggling and the industry leaders have gone from saying "AGI is like fusion - it will always be 50 years away" to "agi in 10 years would surprise me... I think it will be much sooner"
Open your eyes man.
Even if it does die, I still enjoy it as a hobby. Things will always be more blissful doing things from scratch and from your own mind.
Totally agree 👍 I'm master of my own little domain💯
Mosh agree, To use AI in software engineering will be new topic in trends so those adapt that curve will definitely servivive
Thank you mosh brother
I agree with your opinion and point of view. In my opinion, software development will not disappear in the next 20 years. The biggest challenge is communication, not programming. And Complexity kills AI.
Computer Scientists and programmers of all people should know that it's about to be over for the tech industry. It hasn't even been 2 years since OpenAI released ChatGPT3 to the public and we have autonomous agents, skyrocketing benchmarks on NLP and Coding LLMs, and compute to scale AI further is by no means slowing down. All they ever have to do is get close enough to replace you, and everyone is racing to build the AI that will do it. Just being real.
i agree that its possible that AI will at some point in time sooner or later completely replace human programmers
When AI succeed in replacing software engineers that will also mean that all other jobs can be done by AI too.
Some adaptability is required in learning and teaching. Thanks helpful. Also backed by facts from reliable source.
Well said Mosh. Concise
I agree i code for 25 years things are even better now. Don't worry coding skills still needed on AI. I recommend Mosh I am one of his students and Sharp on skills with his classes when the job demands
good point on referring to compiler with boost productivity. the only gap between machine and human brain now are the creativity. I'm not sure when it will gonna last
I searched about it just now, saw "Tech Leads" video as his title said "google programmer" lol and he says coding is dead. second video i watched yours and you say the opposite. Somewhat satisfied by your response (As you clearly put his thumbnails in your video challenging him to a Duel lmao) but I will keep looking for more information. Thank you for this. Keep guiding people on the right path.
Great explanation!
Nice advice Mosh. I am learning python from your videos
Great explanation to the present problem ❤
I started learning to code 3 4 years ago and I remember I went tru one of your 3 hour tutorials as a complete out of the box begginer.
4 years after, I finished a bootcamp withh a internship and Im finishing my bachelors while being employed as a developer in a company rn.
Just so you know, I was working nights at a factory before.
Nice. Gave hope to me. Doing bootcamp now.
Thanks for the clarification, I almost lost hope due to other peoples negativity.
Negative people will remain negative... Follow your own mind (and real statistics, just to back it up)
@@einatblackrose from where you are learning coding. In which domain are you? I am really interested in coding, thanks
@@FriedrichNietzsche1 I don't do this for a living, so I'm just learning from CZcams whatever I'm interested in, so I guess I don't have much useful info to provide here, but the reality shows that there's a high demand for coding, and it's probably a good idea to explore markets and find your niche that requires coding. Good luck!
I know that was not the scope of the video, but I think is important to let people who want to start a career as a software developer that is really hard to get in this industry, the competition for junior positions is brutal, you could try for even years to get a chance,so it important prepare yourself for it.
Make your own thing. Why beg for scraps
Damn.
We have calculators and computers, we don't need to learn math. Nonsense.. Software coding should be taught as a compulsory subject at a very young age. But only to gain analytical thinking, abstraction, design and problem solving skills. chatGPT cannot give you these, and these are not the only skills you need when making software. A young person who has been studying advanced software coding for 5 years becomes a person with a different mental structure.
😂😂😂
I agree
Exactly with these people’s logic maths and English majors/jobs are more obsolete than we are 💀
Math is needed to get through every day life . We have to learn it to survive
Stupid comment
Thank you very mosh 😅. We are proud of you 👍
Hello Mosh, many thanks to the relentless Free education you extend to us in coding!. Here I beg to ask , I intend to build an e commerce app . Please walk me through how best I can pull off my idea .Thanks Mosh
You are the one of the best teachers of coding. I got 6 job offers after completing your .NET courses . Thanks Mosh .
Regardless of outside factors, at this point, I need coding to get my own things done. The more I learned the more I realized I was taking ten steps to get things done when I could actually take one. It wouldn’t make sense for me to ever stop coding.
Mosh King 👏👏
I like your optimism. But now we r in the most exciting moment of the beginning of the ai era which means if you want to learn do it your best or leave it ...
Bro, coding is far from dead. While there are currently many developments in the field of artificial intelligence that may result in some repetitive, manual tasks being automated and simplified, the fundamental role and necessity for coders will remain. Coding is the foundation for the development and implementation of many of the technologies and tools that are powering these developments in artificial intelligence, not to mention the ongoing requirement for coders to further develop and refine coding languages and frameworks to meet the changing demands and advancements in technology.
Therefore, overall it is safe to say that coding is still very much alive, and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future.
Best positive comment that I've seen so far.
Yeahh.... That's why around 1M employees already laid off ... Be +
To hell with this AI .. Only Nvidia getting business
@@HeyMr.OO7 In the US, it's because of other economic factors, like high interest rates. Probably similar reasons elsewhere, too.
@@HeyMr.OO7are you not aware of the over hiring that happened during the pandemic?
@@westernpigeon yeahh... Thanks for the reminder.. but surely the rate of firing implies the havoc of 2008
You are my teacher and teacher of my daughter and will be the first teacher of my son too..Thank you!
If you’re already working as a software engineer then it’s worth it. If you’re just starting then it’s a gamble. Not to mention the job markets is horrible right now.
This is awesome 👌
Im not worried about AI im worried about work being outsourced to poor countries where someone will ALWAYS work longer and harder than you for 1/4 the cost.
great video!!
Hi Mosh...i hope one day you will produce a course about the Spring Framework
I'm learning smart contract engineering because it seems niche, and i imagine demand will skyrocket. Plus, new career paths are easier to get into.
It's really funny, we had the same discussions 30 years ago when CASE tools (computer-aided software engineering) started generating Cobol code on the mainframe!!! And yet, I'm still coding!! Now we have better tools and I don't spent time coding reports or screen line by line like we use to. But humain still design the system, the database, most of the logic and make sure that all the components talk to each other!!!
Hello Mosh! Will you make another React Native course or will you update the course?
Tell us because we really want to know much more about coding ❤❤
So the conclusion we can draw is this: either less employee will be hired by companies OR hiring trend will be the same but more work will have to do by the employee utilizing AI. Please feel free to disagree.
There are multiple archetypes of software engineers. In certain domains, like security, transactions, ..., humans are and will remain essential for quality control. The cost of one mistake is enormous. In other domains, like image understanding, machine vision,.. an increasing part coding has been transitioning to learned models. There are still a lot of traditional coding needed at the interface of models, but it is arguably true that in domains that are directly reliant on machine learning, and increasing portion of what software work has transitioned to other skills, often referred to as "machine learning experts". It is an over-simplification to speak of "coding" in a vacuum. There are many types of "software engineers", some specilizing in security, other specializing in AI, and everything in between (Embedded Systems, Mobile, Server, ...). More focus should be put in addressing what sub-domains within software engineering experience more growth than others, and students should reflect on what sub-domain of software engineering they are the most interested to learn about. This would make a lot more sense.
Another excellent video. Thank you Mosh!!!
I encourage everyone to learn coding, I am an amateur, spent two years in a development team, hired as a PM they put everyone to code. Now knowing some coding, having seen how complex full stack apps are built is an invaluable asset even if my skills are not sufficient for a real developer job. I think more business focused roles should take basic coding lessons . Also, most organisations are not even setup to use AI as promised in fancy presentations.
Words of wisdom!
THANK YOU SIR
The A I scenario of that it’s going to kill coding reminds me of what happened to network engineers. If you go back 20 or more years, every small company employed their own network engineer. (Law firms, CPA firms, small manufactures, etc) As the software for networks evolved, it took less hours and people to manage these network infrastructures. The point is, network engineer jobs never went away. The network engineers were able to do more work, more efficiently. It’s like what is talked about in this video. The software engineer that learns to work with A.I. will be the one who will continue to work in coding. It’s a “subjective” guess, but I do think that this is how software engineering will evolve.
you should also update your courses or make new ones with how you can use Ai with progamming languages, for example the use of custom chatgpt, and use of fastapi library with python, use docker, and serverless containers and use SQLmodel neon postgress sql, these are just examples of what u could do, like with your new courses, this would help in securing more jobs imo...
I’m taking a short break from creating courses but thanks for the suggestions! Noted!
@@programmingwithmosh np sounds good
Mosh is like that cool uncle we all like,thanks uncle Mosh
Thanks, Mosh, thanks
Mosh thank you for your content and advice - now I have a serious question. We know about the tech lay-offs but Google went as far as firing the Entire Python Team how this will impact python ecosystem? Js, Go or C++ team could be next!?
Solid advice. As a coder and youtuber i was demotivated to watch many videos on AI and how it is taking the jobs and all that stuff. Also youtube views have dropped. But anyways there is hope.
Mosh, that background music is so calm and peaceful in the video. Can anybody name the track used in the video?
Glad I could help!
Not to fear, just evolved
lol, underrated comment. We'll see another iteration sometime soon of _'don't fear, it's not 100% as good as a human coder according to a recent schmachenzie study, only 97.2% as good, so breathe easy"_
Hey Mosh!
What course(s) are you planning to release next on your learning portal?
I am 43, and I did a career shift too, now I am a developer (EU). You can do it, but it won't be easy.
Learning the concepts is more important than knowing the syntax of everything
I'm honestly just terrified right now because of the mass layoffs happening. I hope everything will go back to normal next year.
Honestly, 1. It depends on where you live 2. It depends on the field in which there are coders / IT people 3. The situation in the world is mostly to blame.
Worst case scenario, we will be obsolete within a decade or two. More realistically, the field will evolve over time, some jobs and tasks will go away, some automated but supervised and some are timeless. You will be fine!
Unfortunately it's not going back. Machine intelligence is smashing through every scientific benchmark we've placed with no signs of even beginning to slow. Some even say it's just starting to ramp up...
The world never went back to pre industrial practices. We are just mere cobblers building the machine that will replace us.
I'm 21 and shifted to programming years ago. Now I'm made my career with one software company from England (remote)
Mosh you are an absolute legend.
You’re too kind! Thank you 🙏
@@programmingwithmosh hi need help,could you please tell me from where can I learn coding and become developer
The ones you mentioned towards the end of the video, like what the next gen software engineer need to know more could you please make a tutorial for these topics?
I'm just starting to learn python and my goal is to learn data analysis for research purposes. My question, how much do you think it's ok for me to use chat gpt while learning? It's quiet useful when I forget/miss syntax, but I do worry about relying too much on it and would love to bear from someone with more experience
hey mosh thank you for everything can you make video aobut what aother skill will help us to becahmoe better programer like reading fiction books or math or something like that thanks
I agree with this video and all the comments saying it’s good to learn coding now as long as AI stops progressing today and never gets any better. The amazing thing about AI is not its current capabilities. The amazing thing about AI is the rate at which it’s getting better. The speed of progression is phenomenal. The CEO of NVIDIA has publicly stated that AI will replace more and more coders every year. That being said, coding is still great to learn for the philosophy of it. For learning how to think and understanding the binary nature of life.
I clicked to hear Randika Sir's English accent. But I think you deliberately speaking in a clear manner so everyone can grab the words. My guess is your natural speaking should be way more word blendings, clippings and etc.
Thorough video
Thanks man for the tip... I remember l share a simple mean stack projects to my friend.. But he told me" naaah now are days they is Devin 😂".... It seems people are having fear of the unknown lets use Al as a tool in our tool box....thanks for the great support for all of us viva coding
I wonder, if I need to spend a substantial amount of time to construct a meaningful prompt to AI to make it writing a bunch of code for me, which I'll still have to verify and polish, why wouldn't I write that code myself?
Did the calculator replace mathematicians? A.I. will never be a substitute for human intuition. Yes, I use ChatGTP to help me with my work, but it tends to be vague, and I can tell when it is leading me astray.
Hi there! Do you need experience before you can embark on Cs?
@@nanamichael6798obviously no, because everyone had no work experience, but it would be easier for a newcomer to have a good enough project to showcase your skills, if you have work experience it should be easier to get job
Really depends on your other options.
00:01 Coding is still worth learning in 2024
01:08 Software engineering is a stable and growing field.
02:17 History of programming and the role of compilers
03:30 AI-generated code requires human review for quality and security
04:49 Understanding coding is still crucial for software engineering
05:57 AI boosts programming productivity but not overall productivity significantly
07:11 AI may advance, but human creativity and expertise will still be necessary in software engineering.
08:22 Coding skills are crucial for shaping the future with technology.
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