'Murdaugh Family Murders' | Victim to Verdict with Ted Rowlands
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- #VictimToVerdict | The real story behind convicted killer Alex Murdaugh's high-stake double murder trial. Court TV's Ted Rowlands dives deeper into the brutal murders of his son Paul & wife Maggie Murdaugh. From the crime scene to the courtroom, the case that captivated the true crime world and inspired the new Lifetime movie.
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@@wandamacmillan3514 , in reference to pages 59-60 of Becky Hill's book. am I the ONLY one left in this world with any sense of decency?
FIRST, this means THAT MALE JUROR (not the female egg juror) was discussing the case with at least three friends and talking about how long the case will take.
SECOND, nothing BUT NOTHING compelled that juror to stay on the case and make just $20/day (NOT $10 because I read Becky Hill's ENTIRE book VERY CAREFULLY). All that juror had to do is tell the judge about the work needs. The judge would have replaced that juror with an alternate (remember? six alternates had been chosen) and no outside money would have changed hands.
THIRD, how do we know there was no explicit or tacit understanding about what that juror was to do in return for those "thousands of dollars" from his three friends? After all, that jury, ACCORDING TO BECKY HILL, communicated with their eyes. Perhaps those friends winked and nodded as the money changed hands.
FOURTH AND FOREMOST, we need to know IMMEDIATELY if that money was the three friends' own money or whether they were funneling it from someone else.
There may have been money laundering going on if the amound exceeded $10K. Banks are supposed to report those AND it is, according to MY understanding (and I am NOT a lawyer), money laundering to break a $10K transaction into smaller ones to evade the bank's reporting requirement.
Frankly, I think Dick and Jim are not that brilliant after all. They don't know where it is REALLY at.
It is no longer "the trial of the century" but "the mistrial of the decade."
Jurist Toal's exclusion of the wrongful removal of the "egg juror" is EXTREME LEGAL ERROR which she should reconsider on her own motion or on motion of Alex Murdaugh's ("AM") defense team which, despite their great efforts on behalf of their client, is IMPROPERLY too submissive to Toal. At the very least, "Dick and Jim" should point out to Jean Toal what South Carolina's ("SC") Supreme Court ("S Ct") reiterated just yesterday in SC Advance Sheets ("SCAS") Number 2 of 2024 at pages 26-27, which I paste hereunder for everyone's benefit:
The only quibble we have with the court of appeals' double jeopardy analysis is its discussion that Benton suffered no prejudice from the mistrial because he was allowed to present his alibi witnesses at his retrial. The constitutional guarantee against double jeopardy protects defendants from the dread, anxiety, and financial cost of enduring the gauntlet of criminal prosecution and punishment more than once for the same offense. See Arizona, 434 U.S. at 503-05 (explaining the double jeopardy clause protects "the defendant's 'valued right to have his trial completed by a particular tribunal'" and this right is valued because "a second prosecution . . . increases the financial and emotional burden on the accused, prolongs the period in which he is stigmatized by an unresolved accusation of wrongdoing, and may even enhance the risk that an innocent defendant may be convicted" (citations removed)). The defendant's interest in having his fate determined by the first impaneled jury is therefore "a weighty one." Somerville, 410 U.S. at 471. As such, "the lack of apparent harm to the defendant from the declaration of a mistrial [does] not itself justify the mistrial[.]" Id. at 469. Further, in Jorn, a plurality of the Supreme Court noted inquiries into who benefits from a mistrial are "pure speculation." 400 U.S. at 483. Therefore, the Jorn plurality concluded that to allow a retrial "based on an appellate court's assessment of which side benefited from the mistrial ruling does not adequately satisfy the policies underpinning the double jeopardy provision." Id. Here, the trial court focused, as it should have, on whether, given all the circumstances, a mistrial was necessary to further the ends of public justice. See United States v. Perez, 22 U.S. 579, 580 (1824) (stating a mistrial may be granted without violating double jeopardy when, in the sound discretion of the court, "taking all the circumstances into consideration, there is a manifest necessity for the act, or the ends of public justice would otherwise be defeated"); Gori v. United States, 367 U.S. 364, 368 (1961) ("Where, for reasons deemed compelling by the trial judge, who is best situated intelligently to make such a decision, the ends of substantial justice cannot be attained without discontinuing the trial, a mistrial may be declared without the defendant's consent and even over his objection . . . .").
The trial court wisely understood that not granting a mistrial under the circumstances could undermine public confidence in the outcome. See Wade v. Hunter, 336 U.S. 684, 689 (1949) ("[A] defendant's valued right to have his trial completed by a particular tribunal must in some instances be subordinated to the public's interest in fair trials designed to end in just judgements."). We therefore vacate the court of appeals' prejudice discussion but otherwise affirm its double jeopardy ruling.
Again, I do not think AM should be granted a new trial, I think (based on double jeopardy) he should be acquitted OF THE MURDERS out-right because STATE ACTORS wrongfully interfered with his right to have his case decided by the chosen panel, including the "egg juror."
I also think "Dick and Jim" are being ineffective already for not pressing this point.
Yes, I know better than they do.
After all, thank God and WITHOUT A LAWYER, I avoided getting myself wrongfully convicted by a jury presided over by none other than Judge Clifton Newman.
"Dick and Jim" FAILED to get for their client what I got for myself. Now, unless they listen to me, their client is at risk of getting his wrongful convictions cemented because "Dick and Jim" do not know the law as well as I do and are too arrogant to listen to me and give me credit for directing them to the more principled and fruitful paths.
Just to think he would have probably got away with it had Paul not recorded that video
Exactly. It was the smoking gun(no pun intended)
Paul, the son he blew his brains out put him where he is from the grave. Irony, karma?
He was pissed off with Paul for the boat crash and I bet he was really pissed off at Paul when this video was discovered. Bloody Paul, always causing him problems. I bet that's what he thinks.
Never thought of that but what about Maggie
@@Stelpotshe always said Paul was intuitive. Lol
Every time he says “paw-Paw”, makes me so angry. Pathetic, corrupt con-artist. He didn’t love anybody. He loved his addiction and MONEY. No other suspects. Period. Let’s see who is behind Stephens murder 🤥
Yes I absolutely think it's INAPPROPRIATE for someone of his intelligence.
@@NicholeKessso because he was an attorney, he too intelligent to commit a double murder of his wife and son? If he truly was an addict, which I wasn't convinced, I'd say this was a selfish act of violence.
It makes me angry too. What a disgusting man.
Agreed...
Uhm…
How much further can it be disproven Buster had any involvement whatsoever??
The defense that "no father could do that to a son" is incredibly weak, considering the number of similar situations that occur on a daily basis, making it very difficult to believe a single word the murdaughRERs counsel says.
Exactly, considering the fact that it happens more often than we care to admit.
I also think that the defence counsel being a lifelong friend, is also blinded to what his "friend" did to his son and wife.
Maybe Jim needs to talk to Chad Doerman. Family annihilator isn't a term that Creighton Waters just pulled out of thin air.
Exactly, makes me think of the guy that executed his 3 young sons, one ran away and he chased him down and brought him back.
@@JacobC479That’s Chad Doer. Sick Guy
The COURTS need more HONORABLE Judges such as Judge Newman.
I love this judge❤
🤮🤮 you're delusional. God help you. 🙄🤦
Me too !!!
Judge Newman is the BEST EXAMPLE OF AN AMAZING MAN AND JUDGE IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE JUST LIKE HIM . JUDGE YOU NAILED IT FANTASTIC WORK
Wrong, you're delusional 🙄. There is soooo much corruption in that court room. Please tell me, what other trials have you watched involving this corrupt judge?
YSL defendants should be so lucky; their judge is HORRIBLE, just as HORRIBLE as the crimes YSL is accused of committing 🔥
Well said; I agree.
@@HoneySuckle123 YSL?
lol shut up
It's crazy how many premature deaths are assocaited with this family.
Rather than Arkansas atty.....it's NC. Ole slick willy
He should get another life sentence for the way he says paw paw 🤢
How many years for saying, “Row-Row!?!” 🤭😂😒
@@MariaEOD😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 True,as its so CRINGEWORTHY
Wow, so you're telling me your mom and dad or grandparents didn't have a nickname for you? Pretty common, not seeing how it's cringeworthy at all. His name is Paul, it makes sense.
@@ScootsMcPoot Alex's other family members and friends should have been asked if Alex EVER called his son Paw Paw. But even if the answer was no, they might have tried to cover for him.
“Is it official that they’re dead?” He asks this question in different ways 3 times while at the scene.
My theory is he asked so many times because he was afraid they weren’t dead and would say it was him!
He wanted to make sure he had taken care of the job.
Pretty heartbreaking .. evil man
If he had murdered his family 25 or 30 yrs ago he would have gotten away with it. Also the stealing from clients. Technology got him.
What is in the darkness always comes to light. Lady Justice prevails ⚖️
Just like the Bible says. Amen
Nothing he said/says can be believed, except his admitting to lying in court and stealing money from the vulnerable.
Well said
Exactly
And stealing from his law partners too
I don’t care how many trials he gets…he’s GUILTY!!
@@KevinP.-ur6ch ha ha ha ha ha ha
Its very interesting that everytime he denies killing them he's nodding his head up and down , subconsciously admitting it
I have read countless comments on similar Murdaugh videos and made comments similar to yours. Other than mine you are the only other person I’ve seen to make that comment. As I watched his testimony and noticed him nodding up and down as he’s denying killing them I thought “his subconscious is affirming his own guilt”.
That kennel video sealed his fate . The little detective as Alex called him solved his own murder and his mother’s murder .
Maggie called him that because he was spying on his father, trying to catch him doing drugs or hiding them
@@thenightporter, no one in South Carolina would tell this story in its full breadth.
It can be a big scoop for you AFTER you fact-check, which should be easy enough if you have Becky Hill's book "Behind the Doors of Justice." It turns out not only Becky Hill and the jurors of the Alex Murdaugh case wanted "their 15 minutes" but they put their children, too, with them.
In Becky "Boo" Hill's book page 191, you see a photo of Boo's daughter with this caption:
Country music star, Dustin Lynch, and my "plus one" (daughter Aubrey) spent time together in NBC's The Today Show green room.
TRANSLATION: At least Becky Hill AND HER DAUGHTER flew expense-free to New York with at least three jurors who voted guilty, each of which PRESUMABLY has a "plus one," too.
So, at least 8 people had a luxury junket to New York paid for with the blood and tears of Paul, Maggie, and Alex Murdaugh.
It gets even worse:
At pages 59-60 of her book, Becky Hill writes:
What I learned on our flight to New York City after the trial was that three close friends of his [meaning of a male juror who voted guilty] all chipped in and paid the financially strapped juror his regular salary. For all six weeks of the trial! Several thousand dollars.
TRANSLATION: Thousands of dollars were being paid DIRECTLY from an outside source to a juror who voted guilty to enable him to stay on the jury.
WHO ARE THOSE THREE CLOSE FRIENDS? Why was it important for them that THIS juror serve on the jury? Was that even their own money or were they funnelling it from an outside source?
That is way, way, worse than anything Becky Hill admits to about her own misconduct.
Explain that? How?
It's sad to think Paul is laughing with his Da and 3/4 of an hr later he'd be dead. And not a drop of blood on Alex. That's suspicious. If your loved ones were murdered brutally you would be hugging them as they lay there dead, I know I would if they were my family I'd never let them go. Blood or no blood.
Me too. I'd have had blood all over me and he didn't even have any blood on the bottom of his shoes... no tears... he's a sick man.
Rain coat. Remember it was hanging in the house and wet? They questioned him and he said he had been outside and had taken the golf cart to it, I suppose the DA figured it out because he had changed and they asked him why. He said he had been sweating profusely.
So great to know that Justice was served and Murdaugh is where he belongs for the rest of his breathing days.
Surely Alex's attorneys are smarter than they acted in this case
You'd think they wud be🤦♀️🤦♀️
They as slimy as him
A little out of their element many???
Judge isn't part of the good ole boy gang
Long before the damning financial crimes were allowed into evidence, they had Court Clerk Becky Hill waiting for her cue to tamper with the jury so as to guarantee a mistrial.
He wants us to believe someone was hiding in the bushes ,waiting for him to leave so he can specifically kill maggie and Paul!
... and that the dogs did not bark at people hiding in the bushes.
Exactly. That area is so far out who's going to go thru all that to kill just those two. If that's the case, how did he get away cause he would have been the target. He really thought he planned every step of the way but nope 🧐🙄😞
If you call 911, you don't start telling them your life story!!! He calls 911, and tells her that he got a flat tyre.... I would have said, "Sir you need to call the tyre company this is 911"!!!!, but he goes on, I was at the side of the road, and someone pulled up, and offered to help me ... "Sir. are you going to get to the point here or what"? Alex "what? oh yes, sorry I forgot why I called"!!!
Wasn’t that after he was shot in the head tho and likely not all there at the moment?
@@Bigchungalungus It turns out he was not shot in the head, he had a 'gash' on his head but no bullet entered his head and no bullet was removed. I believe he was released the same day. It was his lawyers that stated he had been shot in the head. After all their shenanigans, we now know they make things up to dramatise everything. Such as : no one over 4 ft could have shot Paul!!! (unless you are 6ft and are kneeling of course).
Please that's not how you spell tire
@@BrooklynIrish-lg7vx That is ENGLISH and I am in the UK - how ridiculous - look it up in an English Dictionary. English came many centuries before adapted made up substitute English - that is EXACTLY how to spell Tyre,
@@BrooklynIrish-lg7vx Which is correct, tire or tyre?
"Tyre" is the preferred term in British English, used in the UK, and various other Commonwealth countries. Meanwhile, "tire" is the American English spelling predominantly used in the United States. Despite the spelling discrepancy, both words refer to the same integral component - the rubber covering on your wheels.22 Nov 2023
I AM BRITISH!!!!
No reason?! He murdered them so we all can view him as the victim here and feel sorry for him coz he stole millions from his innocent clients along with the other crook lawyers! Lock this known liar up!
Why has he not protested that no one is looking for the killer/s? Dead giveaway
Exactly and never showed any fear for his own life either
Same as OJ, huh???
It is really weird that he starts telling that long story about the boat wreck right away.
Judge Newman absolutely epitomizes what a judge should be: Firm, Fair, and still had mercy towards Murdaugh. All judges should take a lesson from Judge Newman.
OMG are you serious?! 🤦🙄 you're delusional.
Would you love this judge if he supported Alex innocent? It looks like there’s some political corruption going on to stage Alex? Because he did break some laws and should not done that
@@kajalpatelrealtor , no one in South Carolina would tell this story in its full breadth.
It can be a big scoop for you AFTER you fact-check, which should be easy enough if you have Becky Hill's book "Behind the Doors of Justice." It turns out not only Becky Hill and the jurors of the Alex Murdaugh case wanted "their 15 minutes" but they put their children, too, with them.
In Becky "Boo" Hill's book page 191, you see a photo of Boo's daughter with this caption:
Country music star, Dustin Lynch, and my "plus one" (daughter Aubrey) spent time together in NBC's The Today Show green room.
TRANSLATION: At least Becky Hill AND HER DAUGHTER flew expense-free to New York with at least three jurors who voted guilty, each of which PRESUMABLY has a "plus one," too.
So, at least 8 people had a luxury junket to New York paid for with the blood and tears of Paul, Maggie, and Alex Murdaugh.
It gets even worse:
At pages 59-60 of her book, Becky Hill writes:
What I learned on our flight to New York City after the trial was that three close friends of his [meaning of a male juror who voted guilty] all chipped in and paid the financially strapped juror his regular salary. For all six weeks of the trial! Several thousand dollars.
TRANSLATION: Thousands of dollars were being paid DIRECTLY from an outside source to a juror who voted guilty to enable him to stay on the jury.
WHO ARE THOSE THREE CLOSE FRIENDS? Why was it important for them that THIS juror serve on the jury? Was that even their own money or were they funnelling it from an outside source?
That is way, way, worse than anything Becky Hill admits to about her own misconduct.
Mercy to a man that murdered his son and wife and possibly killing his maid and to top it off he cheated the family out of the money they were awarded. I think he should have gotten the death penalty.
For those who didnt beiieve a father couldnt do it, they should have talked to chris Watts
Chris Watts has to be the worst family killer of all-time
@@BenchwarmerGOAT true
That one cuts deep
Because of him I believe Scott Peterson did what he did too. Meaning , no doubt anymore.
There is ZERO doubt in my mind that Alex did this. Zero. If you’re able to steal millions from such needy people over 10 years and lie about it, you’re able to do this horrible crime. And yes the whole Pah-Pah moniker is so funny bc you know he NEVER called him that during normal conversations. Alex left SO many clues at the crime scene that it was him. Looking back, cleaning the crime scene, changing clothes, etc was the worst thing he could have done but for me, THE biggest clue was him LYING about being at the kennels. There would be ZERO incentive to lie about that unless you were wanting to do something horrible. ZERO. And when cops showed up after the 911 call, he said he was gone for an hour and half. Such a liar! Even the 911 call which we heard his whiny ass voice didn’t sell.
If he says he lied before what's too say he would not lie again he, himself said once he started lying he had to keep lying.
@@Rose-cp4vq Yeah I agree but lying about stealing money and lying about slaughtering your own flesh and blood son are pretty different. Apparently I was wrong! What were the 2-3 things that made u positive it was Alex? There were so many things for me but the biggest thing was the lie about being at the kennel. When the police first arrived he told them he was at his moms for an hour and half. There would be ZERO reason to lie, secondly, the 284 steps in 4 minutes and the fact there was puddling of water and hose hung up wrong and third, his clothes. Had he checked both of them like he said, he would have had blood all over that white shirt even though yes he changed. He really did make a lot of mistakes. Had he left crime scene alone and actually had blood on him it wouldn’t have looked so bad.
Looking back he should have changed clothes before murders, then change back in them. But again the videos would have given him away .
I've only heard this discussed by the man who Alec had hired to take care of the dogs at the kennel and then never fully explored during or after the trial and the kennel keeper said he was the only one ever to hose down the kennel
and he always left the garden hose wound or fixed in a specific manner. He said the night of the murder the hose was not fixed the way he had left it. Why wasn't this further explored?
@@jillfurman8904 It was. The groundskeeper testified
The Honorable Clifton Newman is a boss.
Oh Yes He Is Sweetie!!!
Cold and calculating murderer !!!😢 Love judge Newman
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@@gmimi2 sick person
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@@olgatrilogymartin3143 So are you. 🤮
He's making sure they're dead.... because a live person can talk or point! No tears either!
"when he asks if they're definitely dead that he's looking for a confirmation not for information" !!!
@@odysseus9941 exactly 💯
Judge Clifton Newman is the prime example of what our judges should be. Consummate professional, fair in his rulings - the only item I would question is allowing his financial crimes in is prejudicial and since the state doesn't have to prove motive, could be something on appeal. But I'd have done the same thing.
“Fathers don’t wack their adult sons” ummm has this dude never heard of Greek mythology!? It’s an act that’s been retold in stories as long as humans have existed…
I honestly think he killed Paul rather than see him face life in prison. The ride around Mozelle was saying good bye. I can only think Maggie was to save her the pain and get to the properties. It is actually a sad situation
What ever it is, I doubt we’ll never know the truth.
I disagree, he didn’t kill him out of compassion, he killed him out of selfishness. He was about to get exposed for stealing, manipulating and embezzling because of Paul’s case for the boat crash. The lawyer trying to get his financial records said that Paul dying would have ended the case. I think he killed him to try and avoid responsibility and consequences and I think Maggie was collateral damage and her death was a “necessary” part of the story he cooked up.
@@JacobC479he was a named defendant in that boat crash suit, being sued for $50mil. With Paul. The properties were in the wife's name and I don't believe he could stay with her and keep pretending after seeing her destroyed by the death of her son. And all of the properties were in her name. He would have them plus two life insurance policies and the lawsuits go away.
@@bford5899 there was no life insurance on them
I think he killed Paul to kill that $50mil lawsuit because of the boat crash. Alex was a named defendant. But without Paul, who drove the boat that night, the case would be much thinner against Alex. He was millions in debt. I say he needed the insurance money from both wife and son to clear everything up. Plus he couldn’t look at his wife, imo, after murdering her son. Not forever. So he took her out, too
‘Did you blow your sons brains out?’, nodding while he says ‘no’. Kudos to Bill Pullman, well done Sir x
Who knew our president who saved us from aliens could also play a sociopath? He did a great job lol
@@Lisa-mf6vy he sure did do a great job . He had his mannerisms and accent down perfectly. Very good tv movie .
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Great job Ted Rowlands. Thanks for the new show - loved this episode, look forward to more.
Alex or Alec as he is called is where he needs to be.
I made sure I listened carefully when Alex took the stand and he pronounced his own name Alec . I’m from SC about 2 hours from where this happened and one of my friends has a son named Alex and she always pronounces it Alec . Must be a southern accent thing . And yes he is right where he needs to be !! Psycho
It's a guilty sign to be trying to help solve the murder before you even explain the circumstance you currently find yourself in. A lot of guilty people volunteer information. The behaviour indicates him trying to lead the investigators away from focusing on himself
What stands out for me now is the situation when the first officer came to him. He was standing in sight with the bodies of his wife and son, walking around casually. He was not as frantic as I would expect a man who found the love of his life and his beloved son shot on his property. He was not afraid that there could anyone be outside. He had the gun leaning on the car. He was way too sure that there was no thread.
His whole appearance in the first minutes when the officer arrived was odd.
I couldn't get over how clean his white T shirt was after checking 2 shot bodies
Right there red flags started waving for me
What a really great explanation for everything that happened with the Murdaughs!! 👍👍 🙋♀️from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
An opioid addiction would NOT cause him to commit these horrific murders. He got fired that same day and he knew once Maggie and his sons found out, life as he knew it was over. He functioned well enough to steal from clients and friends. If drugs impaired him that much, he would not have been able to hide the evidence. He makes me sick.
Alec did not kill Paul “paw-paw”… Alec killed “Timmy”. The son that was brazen, a drunk, who liked hanging at mozel. Timmy didn’t have a job, was entitled. Timmy was driving the boat and killed poor Mallory. Alec could not hide the lies and thefts with the spotlights of Mallorys family and Friends. So he killed him and the person on enabled him to be “Timmy”…. And then the rest is history.
Who’s Timmy? Paul’s alternate personality!
Timmy is Paul when drunk.
Are you the killer ? Cause you sound absolutely bat 💩🙄 Saw how ASS-U-ming works ?!?
You know what you are right but why did he kill his wife he said fuc Papa in Timmy and did away with both podcast coming soon bone TV
You took
The words out of my mouth. Bingo
Ted Rowland nice to see you on your own Court TV show. I’ve always enjoyed your “snarky” in the morning. 😊 🍀⚖️
Notice Jim Griffin says he wouldn't have defended Alex if he thought he had murdered Paul. He never mentioned Maggie!
I assume he was talking about the potential conflict of interest in defending Alex for the murder of Paul, being that Paul was Griffins client during the boat wreck case. If you watch 1 of the HBO series, this is mentioned & he was able to talk longer without getting cut off
His alibi was blown out of the water innocently by Miss Shelly.
NOT ONCE WHEN PAUL WAS LAUGHING AT THE TREE AND RECORDING DID ALEX LAUGH OR EVEN SMILE....PLANS ALREADY IN ACTION .. SETTING UP ALIBI
Remember Christopher Hightower in RI. He M’d a family of 3, one of which was an 8-yr old girl- The Brendel family. He went postal, blaming Mr. Brendel for his financial woes, when in fact he was a con artist. His world was collapsing, his wife was divorcing him.
Now, I understand it wasn’t his family, but some men do crack just before they are exposed. I think, this is what happened to AM.
I live in Maine and I just wanted to tell you JLR that I’m so happy you’re covering this story… thank you❤
my son and wife have been shot
Badly....no one talks that way...sounds so stupid
Alex was living in pure pure hell, night and day ...planning months, maybe years, figuring out their final. Tragic, heinous demise. Still, he failed to get away with murder. For all his evil plans it will all come out for us to see. The truth ALWAYS comes out!!!!
Consider this.. If Buster had never allowed Paul to use his identification, the day of the boat crash, oh how things would be different.
Sadly, i feel the worst in this whole story for Mallory Beach and her family.
It would have been so much easier to pay the family money, sell some properties, apologize to them from the bottom of their hearts and humbly move on.
Maggi wollte sich von ihm trennen und sein Sohn konnte er nicht mehr kontrollieren. Paul war auf der Seite seiner Mutter. Ich habe keinen Zweifel dass Alex seine Frau und seinen Sohn getötet hat.😢😢
Well..i very serously doubt if i just found 2 of the most important people in my life murdered like that i probley wont be able to remember what i did let alone sit down and be able to calmly talk to the cops in a car like that.. Their gonna have to take me to the hospital from seeing my loved ones like that!!!!
I totally agree and feel sorry for this family
I would be rolling on the dirt , screaming OMG that was a horrific crime.
In the 911 call, Alex weepingly says, "Paul, why did you have to get involved?"
I think Alex went there to kill Maggie with the shotgun. Alex realized what was happening, and ran out and got shot. Maggie was shot with Paul's AR rifle. Alex tried to stage the scene, but none of it makes sense.
Alex loved himself more than anything. He didn't want anyone to know he'd been stealing for years. His reputation was more important than anything. One day, Buster will realize that Alex would have killed him too if he would have been a liability. Also, Maggie wanted a divorce according to her nail person. He's a narcissist. Very sad that he did this to his family.
The fact he thought he could get a way with this is so bizarre
He's not too sharp
He would have had local law enforcement handled it instead of SLED. He didn't expect local law enforcement to recuse themselves
Sorry but shaking your head up and down when saying you would never is a clear psychological sign you did.
Jim talks like it's ok he killed Maggie but if he thought for one minute he killed Paul he wouldn't be his lawyer! What is wrong with him?!!!!! Jim and Dick are as evil as Alex.
I desperately wish he would be forgotten and fade away like a bad memory. Why continue to give him ANY kind of attention??
I hate the ‘parents don’t kill their kids,’ defense. Right off the bat, your main argument is demonstrably untrue. Watch the news, it is a FACT that this sort of thing happens far more than any of us would like to think. That does not change reality, and a defense attorney going there is a red flag in itself to me. That’s the best you’ve got? The false ideal that parents would never kill their children? You’re insulting the intelligence of the very people you’re trying to convince.
I cringe so hard every time Alex says Pau-Pau! Like, your murderous ass is a grown man. Just say Paul! 😩🫣🙄
My only question to Alex, if I had the opportunity would be, what were their last words to you Alex.
Jim Griffin doesn't mention the fact that the shotgun and rifle used to murder Maggie and Paul were Alex's own family guns. So we're supposed to believe 2 different murderers went into the family's house, stole their own guns, and then went down to the kennels and shot Paul and his mother? Alex does nothing but lie.
We do know that parents do this to their spouse and children. We've seen it play out on the news. We think the same thing most good-hearted people think that there's no way this could happen. It's a loving family. They seem as though they have their life together. He always seemed to love his kids, his wife, his life!!! Then, we find out there are cracks. We find out that there was a motive. We find out that this "perfect" family had issues. We find out about the lies. We find out about all the reasons why it might happen and did happen.
I don't know why the fact there were 2 guns used that it can't be one shooter. Paul was shot 1st by shotgun, it was a mess & certainly shocking so, I think he changed guns to shoot Maggie.
15:12 When Alex lawyer says the Kennel video is q favorable piece of evidence for Alex is baffling. That was the 1 piece of evidence that convicted the man.. What is he talking about?
@@InLieuTube I know what he was referencing, but he should still be able to admit that was the reason Alex was convicted, because he constantly lied and was caught out on tape. Also we know he planned it and it was a sneak attack they didn't expect, Alex leaving his phone at the house, bringing 2 guns etc, Why would the lawyer expect him to be sounding suspicious on tape? Of course he's tryong to lul them into a false sense of security
That makes sense
The lawyers are lying pos.
Wow the judge had them remove his family pictures!! That tells us that he's fair
Nothing annoys me more about this case than the gratuitous use of the nickname PawPaw.
And the slight baby talk and rhythmic cadence of his voice when Alec is talking to police. That’s what a lie sounds like.
Normal isn't coming back Jesus is ❤
“It’s official that they’re dead??” … He was probably trying to figure out how he could collect life insurance from their deaths. 🤬
He didn't have life insurance on either one of them so he didn't get any money from their deaths actually.
He was afraid that they had survived and would recognize him as a murderer.
The reason is money, and yes they didn’t know it was coming because they trusted him.
Did Alex plan the murders months in advance or did he "snap" that night? I would be curious to know anyone's opinion.
There is evidence that Alec lured Maggie to the property. Maggie had a conversation with her sister earlier that day. She told her sister something was suspicious about Alec wanting her to come to the property and she didn't want to go. Also earlier that day Paul sent a message to Alec saying that he found the pills and Maggie knew about them. So who knows if something happened at dinner that set Alec off. I believe Alec planned and entertained the idea of killing Paul and Maggie and whatever happened at dinner time pushed Alec over the edge to actually go through with the plan. Remember also, the plan would have worked if not for the kennel video.
AM said ‘whoever did this, planned it for a long time …’
I think it was planned. Maggie said in a text he was up to something.. She knew he was up to something but she had no idea it was that or she wouldn't have come home.
If u remember he asked paul and Maggie to come there that night..
It might not have been planned months in advance but it was definitely planned. It wasnt him simply snapping that night as evidence shows some planning at least a day or two in advance
Poor Ole Jim
Excellent documentary Court TV 👏👏👏👏
My belief of WHY is:
He knew he was gonna be exposed financially. He thought if Paul was gone he wouldn’t be burdened by lawsuits or have his FINANCIALS looked at .
Maggie was ready to leave him probs knew she was gonna face a cricket of sh*t for his frauds .. and she’s his closest one she knew everything. + if Paul was killed n not Maggie I think Alec knew Maggie wud know who really did it and for this worm it was simply easier for HIM to kill them both and he thought that’s was the answer to all his problems.
His attorney said "i wouldn't have defended him if i feel he killed Paul & Maggie"...lol uuhh yes you would because thats what defense attorneys do lol and you wanted a piece of the pie $$$$$$$. Ive never seen so much corruption & murder until i learned about the Murdaughs 😳. Thank God for Paul recording at the kennels, otherwise i feel Alec would have gotten away with it all....🤦
What i wanna know is why didn't the police check the deer cams Alec had on the property?? That could have sealed the deal as well...
Authorities said the deer cams were not in areas of relevance to this and there was nothing on them helpful to this case
Poot and Griff have destroyed their careers as attorneys and their integrity as human beings. The Murdaugh reign of power is over. Alex is a murderer and an abhorrent human being. The brothers and remaining son will fall when the hidden money is found. Rest in Peace Maggie, Paul, Mallory, Gloria, and Steven.
There is no such thing as a good attorney or a good preacher…
I have to resist the urge to fast forward through Griffin. It’s not that I don’t consider both sides, he just seems to underestimate the audience’s intelligence so transparently. How many different ways can you say, ‘parents would never kill their kids, especially such a great guy like AM!’ before it actually shifts reality? Is that the idea, here? Or are older, small town attorneys just accustomed to a more naive public?
Hes in the right place . PEN for the rest of his evil life 👹
Crazy they have already made a movie on lifetime of this case. The man who plays Alec is pretty good at it.
And they did so before the appeal. Potentially tainting a new prospective jury.
Was it good ? I missed it. From the commercial it showed Alec evil and I think they should have kept that a mystery as none of us know 💯
@@madeinussr7551 evidently it is a 2 part movie. I was only able to catch the last half of part 2. From what I could tell it’s decent and characters portrayed are pretty similar.
@@tracihann lol, No it doesn't taint them anymore than any of the other shows, court coverage, etc thats been out there...smh
My theory based on the evidence:
Alec shot Paul because Paul would have brought social shame to the family name.
Alec shot Maggie because Mark Tinsley said that he would sue Maggie civilly in another county where Alec couldn't sway the courts in his favour.
I think Alec asked Eddie to shoot him, but Alec would have ended up shooting him and claiming Eddie killed Maggie and Paul and had come after him to 'finish the job.'
I love how Alex goes into IMMEDIATE Mickey Mouse Voice mode when describing his double family murder!!!
Where’s the footprints or tire tracks or any EVIDENCE THAT ALEC DIDNT DO IT????
He brutally murdered his family for his own selfish gain and continued to lie and play the victim card. No sympathy. God bless Maggie, paul, and everyone involved in this senseless act of violence❤️❤️
Watched the two part Lifetime movie and my thought was Lifetime must have blown the budget on the lead actor, Bill Pullman. This was low budget and could have been done SO much better.
The most damming part of Alex’s testimony for me was when Mr. Waters asked him if the dogs were acting strange like they detected something or someone and Alex said “No “ there was no one else around for the dogs to detect , and I don’t think Alex even realized the enormity of that statement
Such a mess..
See, Alex kept forgetting about the distance and area in which he lived. There's no way some random person was going to drive alllll the way there to steal and kill. It had to be someone familiar with that area and the family. The killings were personal. It was just so sad cause his wife and son never saw it coming, never suspected it at all 😢😢😢😡😡😡
His wife had tire marks on her! He drove the golf cart that day.
It is heartbreaking to see his brother and son, drugs are evil, I think they took over his soul and the consequences are devastating unfortunately he lost his wife and son and his hole own freedom😢
I have known many people in active addiction whom yes did harm to themselves mostly and their behavior wasn't always great but they never killed.
I don't get how Buster can still think his father is innocent. The prosecution did an amazing job putting all the evidence into context for us. Side note: I loved Ted Rowlands when he was on ktvu fox news and it made me smile when he calls the Almeda property the "Alameda" property. I do the exact same thing lol. I can't help it 😂
I think Buster believes of his fathers innocence because if he doesn't he'd lose the only family left. Even if he's in prison, he can hold on to his beliefs of innocence.
I think Alex did not kill his son and wife
@@kajalpatelrealtortry to share whatever substance smoked b4 you posted that comment. Maybe you & the 5 other FREE ALEX groupies can pay his attorneys fees so that Poot can hire a chaufer to trot him down the dirt roads of Colleton County. LMAO
The fact that he called his dead son Pau Pau in that statement is manipulative. It is an endearing term for his son, yes, but I do believe anyone else would have called their son by their given name. And, he didn't call him by that nick name consistently. This comment is irrelevant but just notable. RIP Paul and Maggie.
Narcissists are sociopaths narcissist only look out for them selves, so it’s not a stretch that Alec would save himself and his reputation at the expense of his family
18:24 did he make a mistake and mean to say a month and a half? Didn’t the murders happen in June of 2021?
He wasn't arrested until July 2022
I think this is what happened. When Paul had the boat wreck it was literally the beginning of the end for Alex ,. He knew that it was going to take millions of dollars to just try and keep Paul out of prison . I believe that Maggie was going to divorce him and that would have cost him millions more. He thought that he could solve two of his “problems “ at once and that would also be the end of the boat wreck lawsuit against him. The Law Firm had uncovered the millions of dollars that Alex had stolen and had confronted him with the evidence the day that Maggie and Paul died . Alex had dug his own grave and willingly climbed down in it.
He’s shaking his head yes when he says no lol he did it
Indeed " this is a long story" a tall tale.
Did the prosecutor ask Where the clothing was that Alec was wearing in the video? Who changes clothes after calling the cops?
The prosecutors asked the housekeeper who testified that she found his dirty clothes dumped on the floor of his bedroom that night, or early morning and she washed them for him.
There is no proof he changed clothes after calling the police and police have the clothes he was wearing when they arrived.
Did the prosecutor ask the mother's caregiver what he was wearing when he showed up at his mothers that night ?? I can't remember if that was ask in court or not ??
Only his shoes what kind of shoes they were.