Every Character's WORST move! (part 1/3) - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

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    Today we learn what each character's worst move is in YOUR opinions!
    Watch the full series: • Every Character's WORS...
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    Music used:
    1 - Tokens, Please (Super Paper Mario)
    2 - Tilt Island (Super Paper Mario)
    3 - The Open Plane (Super Paper Mario)
    4 - Mixed-Up Scramble (Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam)
    5 - Bede Battle (Pokémon Sword & Shield)
    6 - The Tile Pool (Super Paper Mario)
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    Footage:
    (If it's not linked, it's captured by me)
    1 - Melee Fox Laser spam (04:42)
    ⯈ • How to Short Hop Doubl...
    2 - Bad Luigi Misfire (06:17)
    ⯈ • 2GG Kongo Saga - NVR |...
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    Links and stuff:
    Patreon
    ⯈ / pjiggles
    Twitter
    ⯈ / pjiggles_
    Subscribe
    ⯈ czcams.com/users/PJiggles?su...
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    Special Thanks:
    The Discord servers of the characters featured in this video (For telling me about their's character's worst move)
    Mario ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/M3cd4Sq
    Donkey Kong ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/qMzMf8g
    Link ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/Wynbrkd
    Samus/Dark Samus ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0YFyeCP...
    Yoshi ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/QKanWPU
    Kirby ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/XNKXDAv
    Fox ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0hB6V3l...
    Pikachu ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/UprygGD
    Luigi ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/sx7JWub
    Ness ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/GXvBCuN
    Captain Falcon ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0XG2K9W...
    Jigglypuff ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0Wj6QkU...
    Peach/Daisy ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/J2Gbdza
    Bowser ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0hwgnNR...
    Ice Climbers ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/6ha6HVF
    Sheik ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/MSbMHrY
    Zelda ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/FTw5cVD
    Dr. Mario ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/pNk9UzP
    Pichu ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/RgcFwQB
    Falco ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/HptPZcT
    Marth/Lucina ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/0bQ68KV...
    Young Link ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/3nEmfYk
    Ganondorf ⯈ discordapp.com/invite/qhtPMHY
    Lewdicario (For creating smashcords.com)
    Twitter ⯈ / lewdicario
    MetalMusicMan (For creating ultimateframedata.com, which is where I got all the hitbox visualizations and some data from)
    Twitter ⯈ / metalmusicman_
    Mufufu (For helping me with some footage where I needed 2 characters to move and I couldn't do it alone)
    Twitter ⯈ / mufufu_matas
    Lewkiss (For drawing the Jigglypuff art on the thumbnail)
    Twitter ⯈ / lewkiss40
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Komentáře • 4K

  • @_PlazmaBolt_
    @_PlazmaBolt_ Před 4 lety +5366

    "Nintendo Switch has Games"
    "Smash Brothers has Characters"
    "Characters have moves"
    Thanks for answering our long-awaited questions

  • @lognochildd2530
    @lognochildd2530 Před 4 lety +4723

    Kirby's worst move is actually... his neutral special after eating puff

  • @ZMan778
    @ZMan778 Před 3 lety +684

    “Don’t quote me on that”
    -Pjiggles

  • @completelypurplexed6578
    @completelypurplexed6578 Před 4 lety +715

    “I’m not an expert on every character, so-“
    Little Z: *bursts through the wall with the Wario outfit on* you rang?

    • @ChaoticTheRobot
      @ChaoticTheRobot Před 4 lety +36

      Every character is one of my best characters

    • @turtz4life432
      @turtz4life432 Před 3 lety +15

      chaotic crimson so your main is random?

    • @2350CST
      @2350CST Před 3 lety +3

      TuRtZ4LiFe yeah, it’s one of my best characters

    • @harlzcad7108
      @harlzcad7108 Před 3 lety +5

      Well actually
      He's one of my best characters

    • @victoriamilk2865
      @victoriamilk2865 Před 3 lety +1

      Everyone except falco

  • @endcomics
    @endcomics Před 4 lety +690

    “Smash Bros has characters”
    “Characters have moves”
    Thanks for useful smash facts #4

  • @twilightspire9983
    @twilightspire9983 Před 4 lety +1799

    Smash fact: if you start jiggly puffs rollout on stage builder ice, she can’t turn around.

  • @elijahpayne1344
    @elijahpayne1344 Před 4 lety +688

    “Pichu flies off at the speed of light”
    SURRENDER NOW, OR PREPARE TO FIGHT
    M E O W T H T H A T ‘ S R I G H T
    WoBbAfEtT

  • @Brick_Eater_
    @Brick_Eater_ Před 3 lety +274

    13:10 Falco's down smash on the other hand is actually his best move. There's this combo you can do by doing his down taunt and then press down smash

    • @mbenathn
      @mbenathn Před 2 lety +23

      “Hands off my caw”

    • @Hylton_Hotelz
      @Hylton_Hotelz Před 2 lety +4

      @@mbenathn wow. You totally missed the entire joke

    • @roverplush2.08
      @roverplush2.08 Před 2 lety +33

      @@Hylton_Hotelz that's the joke

    • @head0verheels
      @head0verheels Před rokem +15

      @@Hylton_Hotelz that… is the joke. lmao.

    • @Lr1010
      @Lr1010 Před rokem +2

      omg joke joke, joke? joke joke joke, joke, joke joke joke! joke. joke, joke joke. joke.

  • @PepperonibeatsZombie
    @PepperonibeatsZombie Před 4 lety +1111

    As a Yoshi main, I was able to find ONE use for Egg Roll, and it’s only specifically against King Dedede and only when he’s specifically using Gordo Throw. When you use Egg Roll you can charge through the Gordo, hitting it back and hitting King Dedede as well.
    That’s literally it

    • @FrostGlader
      @FrostGlader Před 4 lety +38

      Except literally any decent move can do the same thing. I have a clip that is made up of Dedede firing of a Gordo in a 8 player Smash, where it proceeds to be reflected by Dark Samus Forward Air, Pichu Get Up Attack, of all things, and potentially Ridley Up Smash, which both hit Dedede, and increaced the intensity of the upwards momentum of the Gordo, I don’t know, the entire exchange was about 2 seconds long, and the Ridley/Gordo/Dedede exchange was less than 10 frames.

    • @PepperonibeatsZombie
      @PepperonibeatsZombie Před 4 lety +76

      Frost Glader I think you missed my point here. I’m aware literally any move can reflect a Gordo. Egg Roll is special that it can both hit the Gordo back, and Dedede with the Egg Roll itself. All that aside Egg Roll is still a bad move

    • @smigletoldaccount537
      @smigletoldaccount537 Před 4 lety +1

      Just shield or parry

    • @FrostGlader
      @FrostGlader Před 4 lety +11

      Aaron McCollum yeah, you can do that.
      _But reflecting it is much more fun_

    • @Navdaguat
      @Navdaguat Před 4 lety +3

      ProKobe 🎼 well the thing is your a Yoshi main and fuck Yoshi top 5 most annoying character no Yoshi mains deserve rights

  • @kzet3017
    @kzet3017 Před 4 lety +742

    Every characters worst moves
    *Little mac aerials have entered the chat*

    • @aurelionsolofficial
      @aurelionsolofficial Před 4 lety +25

      In fact, I would say that Lil Mac hasn't very bad aerials... Just on the wrong character.
      But still, his Bair is horrid.

    • @Cristeve
      @Cristeve Před 4 lety +7

      @@aurelionsolofficial Neutral Air works for combos... only neutral...
      :)
      :(

    • @ZesTofthelemon
      @ZesTofthelemon Před 4 lety +11

      "Allow us to introduce ourselves."

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 Před 4 lety +10

      an exception might be made with little mac, considering the fact that his aerials are supposed to be bad. it would be more interesting to see unintentionally bad moves

    • @minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl
      @minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl Před 4 lety +2

      @@Underworlder5 So neutral b then?

  • @MK-13337
    @MK-13337 Před 4 lety +146

    You lost me at "has characters". That can't be true, I won't belive it

    • @deceseze
      @deceseze Před 3 lety +6

      wait till you find out there's stages and music too

    • @NewSoupWiiHii
      @NewSoupWiiHii Před 3 lety +4

      NO... NO... THATS IMPOSSIBLE

  • @Aleyway
    @Aleyway Před 4 lety +88

    "Raptor boost is a close second because it is inconsistent as hell"
    We got it boys raptor boost actually functions now

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 Před 4 lety +1849

    I'm gonna have to disagree with Samus' Homing Missile and say that Samus' worst move would be her two hit jab as not only isn't the jab not very strong, it can't even combo into the 2nd part of the jab making it very punishable meaning that only the 1st part of jab, that deals a measly 3.6% damage, is going to be even at all useful but even then, using literally any other move is going to be much better than Samus' jab. At least you can pressure with the Homing Missile.

    • @saponso4806
      @saponso4806 Před 4 lety +23

      How are everywhere?

    • @bc_gaming4502
      @bc_gaming4502 Před 4 lety +105

      @@saponso4806 They're doing great

    • @alanbrizan
      @alanbrizan Před 4 lety +5

      StickMaster500 yes

    • @HyprStr
      @HyprStr Před 4 lety +10

      Ok boomer

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Před 4 lety +52

      I'd disagree. Jab at least is a good mix up option into grab if you only jab 1, while I've never seen homing missile actually do jack squat in my year of playing elite smash except slightly annoy me.

  • @Chimpanssi
    @Chimpanssi Před 4 lety +707

    "I'm trying to get part 2 out before the end of the year"
    -PJiggles

  • @Nyaa_Margarita
    @Nyaa_Margarita Před 3 lety +76

    Now my question is:
    How the frick is Ganondorf able to do perfect split with no problem at all?

  • @anaygupta159
    @anaygupta159 Před 4 lety +387

    me who literally just presses random buttons: ah yes, i understand

    • @thepinkterror2907
      @thepinkterror2907 Před 4 lety +51

      Ikr, I will never understand how these people have such dedication in order to figure out every reaction to every scenario, at least for their main. It’s pretty respectable, honestly.

    • @hehe-sm9rx
      @hehe-sm9rx Před 3 lety +18

      @@thepinkterror2907 it paids off w beautiful stylish combos which is sick, also they appear very intelligent

    • @hchdfgxhxgchxyfchvh4086
      @hchdfgxhxgchxyfchvh4086 Před 3 lety +2

      MaShEr

    • @LilZumi281
      @LilZumi281 Před 3 lety +7

      This sounds so much like my little sister (she plays Bayonetta), honestly it isn’t a bad strategy, I used to main Yoshi and would only spam random buttons, using this strategy I lost all my friends as I destroyed them with egg roll and ground pound, (they are sweaty with Kirby, game and watch and Captain Falcon)

    • @kirbyquartz5609
      @kirbyquartz5609 Před 3 lety +7

      I don’t know any combos, but I at least know what the moves do.

  • @ADividedSoulYT
    @ADividedSoulYT Před 4 lety +1406

    "Kirby doesn't really have a bad move."
    Gee I wonder why.

    • @juancabrera601
      @juancabrera601 Před 4 lety +69

      because in triple deluxe,he is supersain

    • @adomali87yearsago.71
      @adomali87yearsago.71 Před 4 lety +67

      Juan Cabrera
      In KSA Kirby’s the reincarnation of the (true) destroyer of worlds. You really went for KTD?

    • @Sarah12471
      @Sarah12471 Před 4 lety +139

      Because he is a jack of all trades that's supposed to be for beginers

    • @adomali87yearsago.71
      @adomali87yearsago.71 Před 4 lety +11

      jay quickblade Hohoho! You watched the RelaxAlax video too?

    • @Sarah12471
      @Sarah12471 Před 4 lety +50

      @@adomali87yearsago.71 yeah and being honest giving kirby an outright bad or non-useful move would kind of be a dick move on sakurai's end
      As kirby is for beginers in a way

  • @evanpetrolle2596
    @evanpetrolle2596 Před 4 lety +387

    “Smash brothers has characters.” *He is speaking the language of the gods.*

    • @sadweedle6832
      @sadweedle6832 Před 4 lety +10

      Next you're going to tell me the Nintendo switch has games

    • @kinlaw7220
      @kinlaw7220 Před 4 lety +7

      SadWeedle Nah dude, Nintendo switch has movies. Duh

    • @Nerqie
      @Nerqie Před 4 lety +1

      @@kinlaw7220 *P* *E* *R* *I* *S* *H*

    • @syedzeff3948
      @syedzeff3948 Před 4 lety +1

      Hmm yes the floor here is nade out of floor

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 Před 4 lety

      Because we didn't have enough lame phrases spammed to oblivion. The gods weep.

  • @Chipfoxxo
    @Chipfoxxo Před 4 lety +189

    Wow, never knew EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER has their own discord.

  • @oblivion2674
    @oblivion2674 Před 4 lety +35

    "Every character has at least 1 bad move", pikachu left

  • @you_just
    @you_just Před 4 lety +517

    “But Kirby, how is your dair your worst move? It’s so good!”
    “That’s my secret, Cap. I don’t have any bad moves.”

    • @x3n068
      @x3n068 Před 4 lety +20

      You_just
      Yeah but no, kirby is genuinely ass and shit

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 Před 4 lety +49

      1: this is in comparison to the rest of his kit
      2: This is Smash Ultimate. almost everyone except mac is usable

    • @monoko1234
      @monoko1234 Před 4 lety +22

      @@gypsysprite4824 Mac is usable. Just if this was Street Fighter not Smash Bros.

    • @phantomthief2311
      @phantomthief2311 Před 4 lety +9

      Little Mac is god on KoF stadium

    • @Astraaaaaaaaaaa
      @Astraaaaaaaaaaa Před 4 lety +2

      His moves are neither good or bad, just eh.

  • @Elsuya_Milo
    @Elsuya_Milo Před 4 lety +93

    12:58 "because Pichu fliesoff at the speed of light-"
    Me: "... ning"

  • @purefire5172
    @purefire5172 Před 4 lety +263

    7.0.0 just made several things on this list down right wrong:
    - Zelda's f-tilt is now so strong that the risk for throwing it out is much more worth is in a lot of situations. Her new worst move is probably f-smash? IDK what it would be but it's not f-tilt.
    - Remember when Doc's down-tilt was his worst move? Now it's one of his best. Leads into combos and kill confirms into a lot of his moves. His new worst move is definitely up-tilt.
    - Same thing with Young Link as with Doc. One of his worst moves is now one of his best.

    • @Jax_Two
      @Jax_Two Před 4 lety +24

      Zelda's worst move is probably up Smash. It can never hit grounded characters unless they are huge and it isn't even that strong. Also people can kind of fall out of it.

    • @jedimanx2329
      @jedimanx2329 Před 4 lety +7

      He made the vid before the patch...

    • @n4riko
      @n4riko Před 4 lety +3

      this video aged well

    • @Ninjaananas
      @Ninjaananas Před 4 lety +2

      @@Jax_Two
      It is still a good smash attack because it is hard to challenge from above and strong.

    • @Ninjaananas
      @Ninjaananas Před 4 lety

      Zelda's f-tilt is now as strong Incineroar's making it the strongest.

  • @theboi5584
    @theboi5584 Před 3 lety +50

    “Hammer is legit better than dair”
    - Someone in the Kirby Discord.
    I’m sorry, but you need your head to be examined.

    • @muzankibutsuji8919
      @muzankibutsuji8919 Před 2 lety +1

      Yea Dair is better than hammer but hammer is def not worst.

    • @theboi5584
      @theboi5584 Před 2 lety

      @@muzankibutsuji8919 how so in your opinion?

    • @penguin_reader_yt9510
      @penguin_reader_yt9510 Před 2 lety +1

      @@theboi5584 If you can charge in the air, you can be a surprise from the skies.

  • @AnriR
    @AnriR Před 4 lety +568

    “ Mario’s worst move is up tilt “
    *cries in smash 4 mario

  • @Jo_Phonda
    @Jo_Phonda Před 4 lety +573

    *Peach’s* worst move is up tilt while *Daisy’s* worst move is side tilt

    • @horseeatsdogfood5721
      @horseeatsdogfood5721 Před 4 lety +111

      He is speaking the language of the gods

    • @invasious
      @invasious Před 4 lety +11

      It would most likely have to do with their hitboxes

    • @hypnobagels8634
      @hypnobagels8634 Před 4 lety +69

      EMMA MISDOM Congrats you have found: *The* *Joke*

    • @derekmartin5340
      @derekmartin5340 Před 4 lety +1

      @@invasious ... they're the same

    • @Csam00
      @Csam00 Před 4 lety +5

      EMMA MISDOM First of all wrong their, Second of all they are the same and all changes are purely cosmetic.

  • @PMK1
    @PMK1 Před 4 lety +86

    Luigi's worst move is his taunt
    Never mind, It Spikes

  • @astrouphel
    @astrouphel Před 3 lety +29

    "Smash Bros has characters. And characters have moves."
    Yes, yes, the ground is indeed made of ground.

  • @zognam6951
    @zognam6951 Před 4 lety +149

    “Bowser is a big boy”
    He speaks the language of gods

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    No getup attacks included
    GimR fans: You aren't including them becUse they're op

  • @loudboyslive9112
    @loudboyslive9112 Před 3 lety +5

    7:23
    Lucina: ah what a nice day today, I’ll take a walk
    Caption falcon: get over you little-

  • @emilio9790
    @emilio9790 Před 2 lety +40

    As a Kirby main myself, I can tell you that his down air is a really best move. It’s consistent, and useful when you’re in the air. Hammer is pretty useless, too slow, and has to be charged to do a lot of damage, even against a weak character. You’re better off using side air.

    • @redtoadplush1142
      @redtoadplush1142 Před 2 lety +8

      Ah, so you're in that phase of playing kirby

    • @porpoise8160
      @porpoise8160 Před rokem +2

      @@redtoadplush1142 kirby dair is a free spike

    • @TouchTheFire69
      @TouchTheFire69 Před rokem +5

      Yep! ,as a Kirby main hammer even tho it applies pressure against less experienced players it can easily be countered and theres probably always a better option Dair is just really good against characters like Duck Hunt and (maybe haven't tried) villager and combos into.almost every one of kirbys moves so theres no reason to say its kirbys worst

    • @yh88imgreat
      @yh88imgreat Před 11 měsíci

      I main kirby and I think that either rock or hammer is his worst as hammer is easily countered by any hit and it damages you over time and rock can be countered with a grab. They both are deadly against weaker players though.

    • @SunlandStar
      @SunlandStar Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@redtoadplush1142 wdym mostly all pro players agree that kirby dair is one of his best moves being xo considered one of the best spikes in the game

  • @smurftaz1
    @smurftaz1 Před 4 lety +283

    Samus jab: Im not a joke anymore since he forgot about me yay.

    • @chrisnguyen2316
      @chrisnguyen2316 Před 4 lety +37

      smurftaz1 hold up a second, jab 1 is not actually her worst move
      Sounds crazy, but let me explain. Everyone already knows that jab 1 infamously doesn’t connect into jab 2, but it actually has its uses. You can dash in the opposite direction and pivot fsmash or grab, depending on what the opponent does after being hit by jab 1. Obviously it’s not ideal, but better than homing missiles, which is a complete joke

    • @rancorousGamer
      @rancorousGamer Před 4 lety +19

      So wouldn't that mean jab 2 is the worst? At least missiles can sort of apply pressure I guess.

    • @chrisnguyen2316
      @chrisnguyen2316 Před 4 lety +7

      rancorousGamer absolutely, I’ve seen some niche uses of homing missiles here and there, but it’s rare to ever see jab 2 in a high level tournament, pretty much serves only as a mix up

    • @alexcasi1151
      @alexcasi1151 Před 4 lety +5

      @@chrisnguyen2316 Yeah, jab 2 is definitely worse than homing missile

    • @KaedeLanyo
      @KaedeLanyo Před 4 lety +3

      @@chrisnguyen2316 At least homing is costless annoyment, and being not great makes it a fair bit less predictable.

  • @DepCajado
    @DepCajado Před 4 lety +225

    "every character has a bad move"
    me, a [insert character here] main: ???

  • @SantiagoRojas-fk3wz
    @SantiagoRojas-fk3wz Před 4 lety +19

    Kirby's worst move is neutral b against puuf

    • @Benjawin6671
      @Benjawin6671 Před 2 lety

      Yeah puff can easily make it back from Kirby's swallow-cide

  • @the_wake_
    @the_wake_ Před 4 lety +22

    I know this has already been brought up, but man, I just can't agree with Samus's Homing Missile being worse than Jab 2. Jab 2 has such bad frame data that most characters can literally get hit by Jab 1 and then spot-dodge, shield, or even *hit you back* before Jab 2 connects. The best thing you can do probably 95% of the time after Jab 1 is to run away and throw out something to mix your opponent up. Hell, AFAIK, it's the only move in Smash that's so bad *the in-game tips tell you not to use it*.
    While homing missile isn't great, you can use it to close off some approaches, in some tech situations, to condition jumps, etc., in situations where committing charged shot to it is prohibitive. It doesn't connect often, but conditioning the reaction to Missile and closing off options with a low-commitment move is still really useful in a lot of situations.

  • @oceanflowerrs
    @oceanflowerrs Před 4 lety +141

    "i won't spend too much time on each character"
    *20 minute video*
    *part 1 of three*

    • @henryellis7412
      @henryellis7412 Před 4 lety +4

      The funny thing is: that is in fact spending not so much time on each character

    • @specmoment3592
      @specmoment3592 Před 4 lety +1

      Jigglypuff: ...........

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff Před 4 lety +1

      I like longer videos :D

  • @rega2391
    @rega2391 Před 4 lety +248

    “Luigis worst move is his side special”
    Alpharad:See that’s where you’re wrong

    • @liamday453
      @liamday453 Před 4 lety +8

      I feel like luigis side special being luigis worst move contradicts what he kept saying at other parts of the video that these are the least useful moves Bc it’s useful as a recovery tool right

    • @rega2391
      @rega2391 Před 4 lety +4

      Hey hey
      64 likes
      Cool!
      P.s. I’m saying this because of n64 I’m not one of those “tHaNkS 4 dE lIkEs!” Kinds of people

    • @wesnohathas1993
      @wesnohathas1993 Před 4 lety +1

      It's either his worst or best move depending on luck.

    • @ffiiggyy
      @ffiiggyy Před 4 lety

      @@luna-stargazer True that.

    • @strukley3299
      @strukley3299 Před 4 lety

      BIRD UP

  • @sparkyshore3543
    @sparkyshore3543 Před 4 lety +8

    2:20 DK’s down smash isn’t meant to kill, it’s meant to trap people who roll too much.

  • @kirbyofthestarsfan
    @kirbyofthestarsfan Před rokem +3

    Him getting tricked into nominating down air instead of the very obvious hammer for kirby was so funny

  • @sweetmelon3296
    @sweetmelon3296 Před 4 lety +485

    let’s be honest, some of you thought these moves were good at first.

    • @bigurodelaz
      @bigurodelaz Před 4 lety +21

      isabelleeeee09 I admit it. I DID thinks some were good.

    • @carlac8560
      @carlac8560 Před 4 lety +33

      Don’t bully me but i thought rollout was good -_-

    • @melodiousgames342
      @melodiousgames342 Před 4 lety +61

      As a Link main, I have been using Dash attack as a kill tool for all of smash ultimate. Now I have to reteach myself to use forward tilt instead

    • @jenger9596
      @jenger9596 Před 4 lety +45

      As a lifelong Mario main, I still have Smash 4 up tilt engraved into my memory, so I use it occasionally. I still need to teach myself not to use it, but it's difficult after the reign of terror that it caused back in Smash 4.

    • @realykid
      @realykid Před 4 lety +112

      i still refuse to believe Kirby's worst move is dair

  • @spuddledee4156
    @spuddledee4156 Před 4 lety +292

    I get the joke now: Kirby’s down air is actually his greatest tool.
    That means that rollout the Jigglypuff’s best move. Thanks for the knowledge!

    • @abowlofguacamole8558
      @abowlofguacamole8558 Před 4 lety +4

      No actually it's not do not use rollout, it's garbage and has been since smash 1-here

    • @ivanhui6051
      @ivanhui6051 Před 4 lety +21

      guacamole just guacamole r/woooosh

    • @dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO
      @dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO Před 4 lety +43

      @@ivanhui6051 of course somebody who missed a point of a joke in a different thread would be epicly dankly r slash wooshing someone

    • @SimplySoryan
      @SimplySoryan Před 4 lety +2

      Dair is not his best tool up b on battlefield is

    • @spuddledee4156
      @spuddledee4156 Před 4 lety +1

      guacamole just guacamole lol

  • @tears9638
    @tears9638 Před 3 lety +21

    Next every Character’s worst moves [PATCHED]

  • @tvpac-magic6150
    @tvpac-magic6150 Před 3 lety +16

    challange: win an online smash battle using only your worst attack

  • @chrono47minecraft
    @chrono47minecraft Před 4 lety +723

    No way in hell kirby’s dair is worse than hammer flip

    • @swagballington9152
      @swagballington9152 Před 4 lety +46

      It's not even close

    • @humbertovillarreal7108
      @humbertovillarreal7108 Před 4 lety +30

      As a sad kirby main myself, I would say it is his jab. No joke I've never used it.

    • @jumble6820
      @jumble6820 Před 4 lety +121

      @@humbertovillarreal7108 How the hell is jab bad? Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it's bad

    • @lbptails2683
      @lbptails2683 Před 4 lety +13

      @@jumble6820 the first hit had basically less range than PP

    • @jumble6820
      @jumble6820 Před 4 lety +38

      LBP tails gamebreaker yeah but it comes out on FRAME 2 and it does decent damage and knockback, far from a bad move, let alone the worst one.

  • @catriamflockentanz
    @catriamflockentanz Před 4 lety +67

    18:57 "Jigglypuff's Rollout goes at Mach 10" is a rediculous enough claim to be in the Pokédex. (Seriously, the writers of that thing just love Mach Speed and destroying vehicles.)

  • @BroadwayRonMexico
    @BroadwayRonMexico Před 3 lety +6

    I dont know how Samus' worst wasnt her jab. It's a two-hit jab where the first hit doesnt even combo into the second hit (or anything else), and it only does 3.6% damage. The homing missiles can at least add some ranged pressure in some situations

  • @spino-ace
    @spino-ace Před 3 lety +6

    18:36
    This part is just hilarious

  • @Jackpauler4lyfe
    @Jackpauler4lyfe Před 4 lety +328

    4:25 There’s no way that Kirby down air is considered worse than hammer or rock, hammer in particular. the only thing I can think of for hammer is using it in the air on some1s shield for good shield damage (can’t even break full shield), but it’s probably the most predictable and worst setup of any shield break, and its the only actual use I could find. Zero chance d-air is the worst kirby move

    • @Jellerz
      @Jellerz Před 4 lety +163

      I'm a Kirby main and was HIGH KEY confused how these dudes thought that Dair was worse than rock or hammer XD

    • @cirlu_bd
      @cirlu_bd Před 4 lety +131

      these dudes trolled him there's no way

    • @Deadbush2003
      @Deadbush2003 Před 4 lety +81

      I legit don’t think I have ever inputted a side b in my entire time playing Kirby

    • @Treeko13
      @Treeko13 Před 4 lety +13

      @@Deadbush2003 same

    • @shybandit521
      @shybandit521 Před 4 lety +17

      I actually kinda love Side-B from an emotional standpoint but it's pretty useless in most situations. I love the good strong kills

  • @John-qd5sh
    @John-qd5sh Před 4 lety +1440

    Guys, prepare for the “Who’s watching this in 2020?” comments. We are all scared

  • @jcprofit
    @jcprofit Před 2 lety +4

    It’s fun to see how these have changed after buffs and nerfs. Dr mario dtilt now has a disgustingly powerful kill confirm as well as being an amazing combo starter now.

  • @teamoffuturegamingcompanie3756

    18:05 plus If your facing the wrong direction, you get a one way trip into the blast zone

  • @NotJohn3333
    @NotJohn3333 Před 4 lety +43

    "I'm trying to get this out before the end of the year"
    Pjiggles - 12/18/19

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW Před 4 lety +268

    I feel like Kirbycord trolled you or something, I can’t imagine Hammer Flip or even Inhale getting better use than dair

    • @borjaarellano9966
      @borjaarellano9966 Před 4 lety +10

      *sigh*if only inhale was as big as bowser

    • @hugowax5197
      @hugowax5197 Před 4 lety +7

      No Dair really sucks and Hammer is good when your opponent is conered and that you have enough time to charge it

    • @borjaarellano9966
      @borjaarellano9966 Před 4 lety +56

      @@hugowax5197 have you play kirby before?

    • @hugowax5197
      @hugowax5197 Před 4 lety +7

      @@borjaarellano9966 I have 2000h in this game and I'm a Kirby main since Smash 4

    • @hugowax5197
      @hugowax5197 Před 4 lety +16

      Hammer isn't amazing obviously but it covers most get up options, have super armor and kills super early. Not a move you will use every match but when it works it's really good
      Sorry for my english x)

  • @bagel4301
    @bagel4301 Před 4 lety +7

    A witch: *has broken moves*
    Jigglypuff's moves: *JIGGLYPUFF* also how is sleeping the most effective move in smash history???

  • @Shiuki21
    @Shiuki21 Před 3 lety +2

    18:18
    Don't remember too much about Smash 4, but if you can't control the move why did that Puff look like it was TRYING to miss the stage

  • @notapro6430
    @notapro6430 Před 4 lety +306

    There’s no way in hell some of these guys aren’t trolling

    • @questrequested9171
      @questrequested9171 Před 4 lety +12

      if they are then PJiggles will recognize it, he has common sense after all...

    • @Alex.777.0
      @Alex.777.0 Před 4 lety

      True

    • @questrequested9171
      @questrequested9171 Před 4 lety +10

      @J Z Dair is at least very close to the worst, if not straight up the worst, so i can see reasonings for it,
      but he always asks for a specific reasoning behind it and sees is he agrees to it after that

    • @jakefromstatefarm6969
      @jakefromstatefarm6969 Před 4 lety +8

      @J Z easy combo starter and useful spike? Little range, slower than ganondorf dair, and such a weak spike that lots of characters can live through it. It seems really good against people who have no idea what's going on

    • @notapro6430
      @notapro6430 Před 4 lety +2

      Jake from State Farm It seems rlly good against characters with linear or bad recoveries. How would hammer flip be better?

  • @draconomicon6543
    @draconomicon6543 Před 4 lety +41

    "Don't quote me on that."
    -PJiggles, 2019

    • @hhhhhh-vi6sq
      @hhhhhh-vi6sq Před 4 lety +1

      ""Don't quote me on that."
      -PJiggles, 2019"
      -Bone storage, 2019

    • @familystites4445
      @familystites4445 Před 4 lety

      Ah I see what u did there. Nice one

    • @CJSimpleton
      @CJSimpleton Před 4 lety +1

      “Don’t quote me on that.”
      -Pjiggles, 2019
      -Bone Storage, 2019
      -hhh hhh, 2019

    • @stoked-6996
      @stoked-6996 Před 4 lety

      "don't quote me on that."
      -Pjiggles, 2019
      -Bone storage, 2019
      -hhh hhh, 2020
      -Cade-O Potato

    • @buttrball2214
      @buttrball2214 Před 4 lety

      @@stoked-6996 "you miss 100% of the shots you dont take" -wayne gretsky -Michael Scott

  • @shupp6267
    @shupp6267 Před 4 lety +13

    This series is amazing
    I've watched it like 12 times

  • @bmanlemmy1894
    @bmanlemmy1894 Před 2 lety +7

    12:07 I don't know if the recent patches changed Docs worst move, but from my experiences, Down Tilt is Docs best tilt. It's a good combo set up as it can lead into itself once or twice then a grab. For me, one down tilt can lead into 40 to 50%.

  • @moss7910
    @moss7910 Před 4 lety +185

    Honestly cannot see at all how Kirby’s down air is his worst move. Especially compared to his near useless side special

    • @personfromescuela3616
      @personfromescuela3616 Před 4 lety +55

      Kirby discord is made up of people dumb enough to main Kirby

    • @jaykay8464
      @jaykay8464 Před 4 lety +21

      I think they were just trolling him

    • @AeroLeaf4
      @AeroLeaf4 Před 4 lety +24

      It’s only effective as a powerful shield break punish, but it’s held back by it’s extremely mediocre frame data
      Down B is effective at escaping juggles, but if it gets read, you’ll be left open to grabs and exiting the Stone leaves a gap for Kirby to be punished.
      Strong but risky

    • @jaykay8464
      @jaykay8464 Před 4 lety

      @@AeroLeaf4oh. thanks for informing me!

    • @brbw
      @brbw Před 4 lety +25

      PersonFromEscuela ... or maybe we don’t really care how good he is and want to play a character based on if we enjoy them?

  • @Edd_Harr
    @Edd_Harr Před 4 lety +4

    17:03 that physically hurts. Or at least it _would_ if it had an actual hitbox!

  • @thebrick969
    @thebrick969 Před 4 lety +1

    Cries in volcano kick (honestly I know it's not even a good move but it's satisfying)

  • @sbp1763
    @sbp1763 Před 3 lety +4

    0:00 “Smash Brothers has Characters”
    Me: wait what it does? Lol

  • @submarinesailor5140
    @submarinesailor5140 Před 4 lety +30

    “Pikachu shouldn’t jab lock”
    Have you seen Esam?

    • @kielakeet
      @kielakeet Před 4 lety +3

      Disregard ESAM if you ever try and play pika it can only lead to depression and feelings of inadequacy

    • @violet5224
      @violet5224 Před 4 lety

      Exactly

  • @OrangeVision
    @OrangeVision Před 4 lety +5

    8:16 never realized how sweet that uptilt animation is up close, Peach rolling her hand like that.

  • @ludoprieur6240
    @ludoprieur6240 Před 2 lety +2

    captain falcon "raptor boost is a close second (worst move) because it's inconsistent as hell"
    Oh you sweet 2019 child

  • @w8ting4fri
    @w8ting4fri Před 4 lety +2

    Bowser's worst move is definitely dash attack let's be honest. What no one seems to realize is that a down angled forward tilt wont reach down far enough on stages with angled edges like lylatt and down tilt will which makes it useful on those stages. Dash attack is just a bad turnaround canceled forward tilt.

  • @michaelaaron8087
    @michaelaaron8087 Před 4 lety +65

    It’s D-air for Corrin. On stage, it deals decent damage and it’s range is an alright combo breaker, but off stage, it’s nearly unsurvivable, and it’s useless when it comes to your actual opponent.

    • @fiendfi7119
      @fiendfi7119 Před 4 lety

      thanks to the recent up special buff, you can barely survive a full hop dair off stage. still not a good option tho.

    • @Klexium
      @Klexium Před 4 lety +1

      Yep, don't spike 😢

    • @mythoughtsexactly2145
      @mythoughtsexactly2145 Před 4 lety

      @@Klexium it can spike, you just have to hit the opponent way down... Or getting the opponent to atleast 160 or so percent.....

  • @fernandomoraga5683
    @fernandomoraga5683 Před 4 lety +5

    15:51 people on fullscreen: what you pointing at...?

  • @azurive
    @azurive Před 2 lety +7

    I’m a Kirby main and legit I have no clue how they said that d-air is the worst. I don’t care that this is a year late.

  • @bayd9070
    @bayd9070 Před 4 lety +5

    6:50 yeah but Shield break into pkflash into grab into back throw into flex and okay

  • @aidenschwenger1516
    @aidenschwenger1516 Před 4 lety +63

    "Its not like young like has trouble killing"
    what?
    thats legit his only weakness.
    Also Samus jab literally doesn't work, and calling Kirby's d-air bad is blasphemous

    • @RandomStando
      @RandomStando Před 4 lety +5

      Young like

    • @druidt8949
      @druidt8949 Před 4 lety +7

      Forward Air and Up Special at 80% would like to have a word with you, and so would I since they've killed me at lower percentages

    • @nehanudawatte5173
      @nehanudawatte5173 Před 4 lety +2

      Young like

    • @62049
      @62049 Před 4 lety +3

      Aiden Schwenger I agree with all these, but I must add that he insulted the mighty link dash attack

    • @completelyrandom6521
      @completelyrandom6521 Před 4 lety +5

      Old separate

  • @wombatpandaa9774
    @wombatpandaa9774 Před 4 lety +58

    "I'm trying to get part 2 out by the end of the year" -- Pjiggles, 2019

    • @sami_irl
      @sami_irl Před 4 lety +1

      What

    • @pstain5415
      @pstain5415 Před 4 lety

      what

    • @roboriley
      @roboriley Před 4 lety

      what

    • @phoenixcat2203
      @phoenixcat2203 Před 4 lety

      End of the decade actually

    • @chroni3659
      @chroni3659 Před 4 lety +1

      Go ahead and put me on r/explainingthejoke or whatever but it’s because PJiggles said not to quote him after delivering that line

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 Před 2 lety +5

    Bayonetta: Uses any move
    Commentators: 2:13

  • @connormcnulty6377
    @connormcnulty6377 Před rokem +1

    Hearing Egg Roll having low shield damage is funny because now it breaks shield instantly

  • @xxblackkzoruaxx5971
    @xxblackkzoruaxx5971 Před 4 lety +13

    As a kirby main and a kirby dair advocate, that is absolutely my favorite move he has. Them bishes cray.
    Also, I love edgeguarding with PK flash.
    Perhaps I don’t know how to play my mains 🤔

    • @x3n068
      @x3n068 Před 4 lety

      xXBlackKZoruaXx
      Ur a low level player so it doesnt really matter lol

    • @anasazilespider5574
      @anasazilespider5574 Před 4 lety +4

      your playing find, just know that up b ness s a wiser decision

    • @darienmiller1032
      @darienmiller1032 Před 4 lety

      Kirby's dair is hands down the worst spike in the game. It fails to kills at 90% against the LIGHTEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME, whereas literally every other spike cleanly kills at 50% or lower. It's slower than ganons dair, and has now where near as much knockback, this move sucks ass.

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom Před 4 lety +52

    7:03 Falcon's worst move is Falcon Punch
    This is more heartbreaking than Smash Ultimate not winning GOTY at the Game Awards

  • @brambleblaster
    @brambleblaster Před 4 lety

    The Super Paper Mario music is making me super happy. It’s underrated imo and I’m glad you used it.

  • @eternaloverdrive1176
    @eternaloverdrive1176 Před 4 lety +1

    "Jigglypuffs worst move is rollout"
    Down tilt: Allow me to introduce myself.

    • @kaiden7063
      @kaiden7063 Před 4 lety

      down tilt is fucking great, sends at a disgusting angle, is somewhat disjointed, and 2 frames. Are we playing the same game?

  • @Jakobly
    @Jakobly Před 4 lety +34

    PK flash in Ultimate funny enough is the the best it's been

    • @spicytuna6425
      @spicytuna6425 Před 4 lety +9

      I tend to use Flash to bait out an air dodge, then punish with Up Smash

    • @colinftp3288
      @colinftp3288 Před 4 lety

      SpicyTuna ok

    • @emerald6489
      @emerald6489 Před 4 lety

      SpicyTuna ok

    • @neptune7160
      @neptune7160 Před 4 lety

      Similar to Ganon's up tilt in Ultimate, best it's been, still awful

  • @kantapatgame1517
    @kantapatgame1517 Před 4 lety +10

    See time stamp 15:40.
    “Yes! He’ll definitely cover G&W”
    “lets stop here for now”
    *Sad Beeping noise*

  • @georgeshaw4017
    @georgeshaw4017 Před rokem +1

    Him: “Peach/Daisy Up tilt and side tilt sucks.”
    Me using those moves as combos: “Bruh!”

  • @insanen3rd212
    @insanen3rd212 Před 4 lety

    I'm just glad you put the Super Paper Mario bitlands music

  • @KermitTh3Fr0g
    @KermitTh3Fr0g Před 4 lety +74

    How is Kirby Dair worse than hammer
    No one uses the hammer and Dair is a good edge guarding option as well as a combo move and a follow up off f throw

    • @borjaarellano9966
      @borjaarellano9966 Před 4 lety +1

      same

    • @solarsonic7178
      @solarsonic7178 Před 4 lety +1

      F-throw>Dair isn't true unless the opponent DIs in.

    • @conntoons_4848
      @conntoons_4848 Před 4 lety +12

      Bruh, those Kirby mains in the Kirby discord are dumb lol

    • @Account-1536
      @Account-1536 Před 4 lety +3

      Conn Toons Dair is frame 18 & doesn’t true combo into anything.

    • @hhhhhh-vi6sq
      @hhhhhh-vi6sq Před 4 lety +9

      @@Account-1536 it comboes into up tilt and it spikes with a ligering hitbox. its clearly better than side b

  • @Odyssey_Central
    @Odyssey_Central Před 4 lety +5

    As a Kirby main I can tell you with 100% certainty that down air is not Kirby’s worst move, I have no idea why the Kirby discord would say that. Kirby certainly has worst moves IMO, it’s certainly very consistent for me so I agree with your confusion

  • @bacheese
    @bacheese Před 3 lety +1

    At low percents Pika's down tilt can jab lock, so really jab is even less useful than that because he has another option to even do what jabs are best at.

  • @KR_Kosmik
    @KR_Kosmik Před 4 lety +3

    The worst part about rollout is that Kirby gets much more use out of it

  • @XenoVis
    @XenoVis Před 4 lety +14

    "The Geno trailer that we're definitely gonna show there, right?"
    I too was very happy with the Fast and Furious game, very worth spending 3 hours watching adds!

    • @angrychicken7097
      @angrychicken7097 Před 4 lety

      Vision *ads
      Just for future reference 😉

    • @MoltenSkull
      @MoltenSkull Před 4 lety +1

      The Game Awards
      Around 3 hours and only 1 hour is about games

    • @XenoVis
      @XenoVis Před 4 lety +1

      @@angrychicken7097 lol thanks

    • @antray6848
      @antray6848 Před 4 lety

      Oh yes! I can't believe they're bringing a game on the ps2 again! Such a nostalgic feeling to bring back this old console for a game with my favorite actor VIN DIESEL

  • @eyeccantseeyouu
    @eyeccantseeyouu Před 4 lety +13

    I as a kirby main
    Disagree with the d-air thing hammer flip would be a good move if the charge had super armor but when not fully charged its decent

    • @eyeccantseeyouu
      @eyeccantseeyouu Před 4 lety

      Alexander Maenza with one of the custom moves in smash 4 it can literally GET super armor

  • @toastytoad8154
    @toastytoad8154 Před 3 lety +7

    3:42 I don´t know what those Kirby discord people were smoking when they said d-air is Kirby´s worst move, but it´s actually a solid combo starter; and lets you spike people with little to no effort. Whereas, his hammer is just short of useless. Don´t listen to them.

    • @toastytoad8154
      @toastytoad8154 Před 3 lety

      @cam pig And even then, you could do something flashy, like u-tilt into a bunch of d-airs or something.

    • @erronn.
      @erronn. Před 3 lety

      YOU FUCKING DONKEYS DOWN AIR IS SHIT

    • @erronn.
      @erronn. Před 3 lety

      down air:
      Pros: Can sheild poke(so can down tilt)
      cons: slow
      slower than ganons dair
      unreliable
      little to no combos
      slowest aerial
      and it doesn't even spike sometimes

    • @erronn.
      @erronn. Před 3 lety

      hammer flip:
      pros: can beak sheilds because in the air kirby swings twice,
      has super armour
      good for catching jumps
      cons:
      slow
      can only use one jump
      laggy
      edit: pros:good for sheild break punish
      edit part 2: if its charged it can hit ppl at ledge
      edit part 3: it makes ppl panic at ledge

    • @erronn.
      @erronn. Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/KWA16G1KM5U/video.html

  • @Iveno-Von-Aethervein
    @Iveno-Von-Aethervein Před 4 lety +2

    In the defense of Ganon's up tilt it's really more about that disrespect and/or style.

  • @jumble6820
    @jumble6820 Před 4 lety +8

    Arrow points at "(part 1/3)"
    Me: What is this *sorcery*

  • @WafflesDaPancake
    @WafflesDaPancake Před 4 lety +6

    I've seen all of the comments and responses on how Kirby's Side B is actually better than his Down Air and
    I still can't see it
    Regardless of if they are or not, it really *feels* like the Kirby discord was trolling

    • @staticchimera44
      @staticchimera44 Před 4 lety

      They were not trolling. Dair is slow, has no true follow ups if the opponent can SDI, has a terrible spike, is not safe on shield, and is a terrible landing option. Side B can ledge trap, shield break, shield break punish, and catch certain recoveries.

    • @WafflesDaPancake
      @WafflesDaPancake Před 4 lety +3

      I know they're not trolling, it just doesn't sound right
      To each their own, I'm still gonna think down air is better but it's not fact or anything, I'm not a Kirby main so it ain't in my ballpark

    • @staticchimera44
      @staticchimera44 Před 4 lety +1

      @@WafflesDaPancake Heh, yeah. Kirby is just very underrepresented in top level play, so people don't really know much about the character. It's really funny when non-Kirby users learn that dair is a bad move, stone and hammer flip have uses, and the Palutena Kirby matchup is even (some people are starting to think it's winning for Kirby).

  • @guiguygaming1844
    @guiguygaming1844 Před 4 lety +1

    Love that mario and Luigi paper jam music 😊

  • @RedTHedge
    @RedTHedge Před 3 lety +2

    The people in that Discord for Kirby need new brains Kirby's D-Air is one of his best moves, it's good for kills, nice for combos I do, and it's an overall nice move. I don't get them at all.

  • @nate9173
    @nate9173 Před 4 lety +5

    dair is absolutely not Kirby's worst move, it's a combo starter, a kill confirm, a spike and has a quite generous hitbox for how small kirby is, hammer flip on the other side is similar to falcon punch in the way that it isn't a viable attack for how long it takes to land, not only that but you can easily be punished for it

    • @chesslo2158
      @chesslo2158 Před 4 lety

      Taken directly from Ice_killer 305
      Hammer is a bit better and with how dair is, being frame 18, inconsistent, when offstage can even get YOU killed, and overall isn't the best kind of move to just throw out
      in this clip, a Kirby used dair offstage like normal but DIED for it
      clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedTallHabaneroNotATK
      When we were asked what was the worst move we all made sure to give the right answer, we weren't trolling anyone, Dair is NOT our best move, is it good? its meh but Hammer can
      - ledgetrap (if fully charged, has super armor frames 11-17)
      - used for catching jumps (even off stage which will net you more kills earlier than dair will on most occasions)
      - the optimal shieldbreak punish (this is obvious)
      - can be used to get a shieldbreak (Although Kirby doesn't have any true shieldbreak set ups in this game, hammer can be used if someone is caught shielding too much
      I ENCOURAGE you to join the Kirby Discord and to look into the #metagame channel as we are showing why dair isn't as good as people say

    • @chesslo2158
      @chesslo2158 Před 4 lety

      Dair's only usage is to spike linear recoveries offstage without hitboxes. Even so, it doesn't spike till 120. For down airs, it's among the worst in the game.

    • @kyanya7294
      @kyanya7294 Před 4 lety

      @@chesslo2158 ok but why do professional kirby players at tournaments use dair more than hammer then if dair is apparently worse than hammer?

    • @MrShifty1
      @MrShifty1 Před 4 lety

      I have found 1 use for hammer and that’s edge guarding. It’s still not amazing though, because you have to use it from the stage.

    • @nate9173
      @nate9173 Před 4 lety

      i guess but none of those examples could really be used practically in a match vs dair often being used to close out stocks and being kirby's main combo starter along with forward throw

  • @posthistoricdino422
    @posthistoricdino422 Před 4 lety +23

    "Every character's gotta have at least one move that isn't good, right?"
    *Weaklings, the lot of you*

  • @chrischestnut6029
    @chrischestnut6029 Před 4 lety

    Falcon punch is my favorite move it's so bad that when anyone hits it everyone pops off. Also the yell. And the fire falcon visual. (Great series pjiggles)

  • @smolboiproductions2984
    @smolboiproductions2984 Před 4 lety +12

    I'm a kirby main and I think that Down air is his BEST move

    • @chesslo2158
      @chesslo2158 Před 4 lety

      Preston Skipp The Kirby discord is comprised of serious players alike, and the top players there agree it’s one of his worst
      Comes out frame 18
      -12 on shield
      Can’t kill until 140+% near ledge (neutral air can finish the job faster)
      Only 10 aerials are slower than that out of the 380 aerials here

    • @smolboiproductions2984
      @smolboiproductions2984 Před 4 lety +1

      Chesslo
      I don't care
      It's a great combo starter an amazing edge guard and does decent damage

    • @chesslo2158
      @chesslo2158 Před 4 lety +1

      Preston Skipp Ok so you completely ignore my argument, which means I win
      Got it

    • @smolboiproductions2984
      @smolboiproductions2984 Před 4 lety +1

      No
      You forgot all of its hidden potential

    • @chesslo2158
      @chesslo2158 Před 4 lety

      Preston Skipp if you want to understand why down air is bad, please watch Juggleboy’s video on it
      czcams.com/video/KWA16G1KM5U/video.html