Every Character's WORST move! (part 1/3) - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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Today we learn what each character's worst move is in YOUR opinions!
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Music used:
1 - Tokens, Please (Super Paper Mario)
2 - Tilt Island (Super Paper Mario)
3 - The Open Plane (Super Paper Mario)
4 - Mixed-Up Scramble (Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam)
5 - Bede Battle (Pokémon Sword & Shield)
6 - The Tile Pool (Super Paper Mario)
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1 - Melee Fox Laser spam (04:42)
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2 - Bad Luigi Misfire (06:17)
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"Nintendo Switch has Games"
"Smash Brothers has Characters"
"Characters have moves"
Thanks for answering our long-awaited questions
PlazmaBolt Cloud are you kidding someone already beat me to it 😤
Dear god...
You need to add games have smash bros
But do moves have hitboxes?
Edd Harr and Hitboxes have sweet spots
Kirby's worst move is actually... his neutral special after eating puff
I was about to comment that Kirby’s worst move IS rollout.
Kirby’s worst move is Dash attack
@@dannythetoonie4529 That killls!!
@@dannythetoonie4529 the dash is great wdym
oof
“Don’t quote me on that”
-Pjiggles
Such an underrated comment lol
such an original joke
Such a original
@@darrest9808 It isn't?
@@ItsCosmoTewulf get a dictionary go to the s section and find the word sarcasm
“I’m not an expert on every character, so-“
Little Z: *bursts through the wall with the Wario outfit on* you rang?
Every character is one of my best characters
chaotic crimson so your main is random?
TuRtZ4LiFe yeah, it’s one of my best characters
Well actually
He's one of my best characters
Everyone except falco
“Smash Bros has characters”
“Characters have moves”
Thanks for useful smash facts #4
Lol yea
Take notes take notes!
Smash fact: if you start jiggly puffs rollout on stage builder ice, she can’t turn around.
Did you know that from PK Beats
bill bobs I did not, did he mention it?
I mean more bairs I guess
oh god
Same thing with inklings roller
“Pichu flies off at the speed of light”
SURRENDER NOW, OR PREPARE TO FIGHT
M E O W T H T H A T ‘ S R I G H T
WoBbAfEtT
LOL
Lol
I agree
Lol?
lmao
13:10 Falco's down smash on the other hand is actually his best move. There's this combo you can do by doing his down taunt and then press down smash
“Hands off my caw”
@@mbenathn wow. You totally missed the entire joke
@@Hylton_Hotelz that's the joke
@@Hylton_Hotelz that… is the joke. lmao.
omg joke joke, joke? joke joke joke, joke, joke joke joke! joke. joke, joke joke. joke.
As a Yoshi main, I was able to find ONE use for Egg Roll, and it’s only specifically against King Dedede and only when he’s specifically using Gordo Throw. When you use Egg Roll you can charge through the Gordo, hitting it back and hitting King Dedede as well.
That’s literally it
Except literally any decent move can do the same thing. I have a clip that is made up of Dedede firing of a Gordo in a 8 player Smash, where it proceeds to be reflected by Dark Samus Forward Air, Pichu Get Up Attack, of all things, and potentially Ridley Up Smash, which both hit Dedede, and increaced the intensity of the upwards momentum of the Gordo, I don’t know, the entire exchange was about 2 seconds long, and the Ridley/Gordo/Dedede exchange was less than 10 frames.
Frost Glader I think you missed my point here. I’m aware literally any move can reflect a Gordo. Egg Roll is special that it can both hit the Gordo back, and Dedede with the Egg Roll itself. All that aside Egg Roll is still a bad move
Just shield or parry
Aaron McCollum yeah, you can do that.
_But reflecting it is much more fun_
ProKobe 🎼 well the thing is your a Yoshi main and fuck Yoshi top 5 most annoying character no Yoshi mains deserve rights
Every characters worst moves
*Little mac aerials have entered the chat*
In fact, I would say that Lil Mac hasn't very bad aerials... Just on the wrong character.
But still, his Bair is horrid.
@@aurelionsolofficial Neutral Air works for combos... only neutral...
:)
:(
"Allow us to introduce ourselves."
an exception might be made with little mac, considering the fact that his aerials are supposed to be bad. it would be more interesting to see unintentionally bad moves
@@Underworlder5 So neutral b then?
You lost me at "has characters". That can't be true, I won't belive it
wait till you find out there's stages and music too
NO... NO... THATS IMPOSSIBLE
"Raptor boost is a close second because it is inconsistent as hell"
We got it boys raptor boost actually functions now
I'm gonna have to disagree with Samus' Homing Missile and say that Samus' worst move would be her two hit jab as not only isn't the jab not very strong, it can't even combo into the 2nd part of the jab making it very punishable meaning that only the 1st part of jab, that deals a measly 3.6% damage, is going to be even at all useful but even then, using literally any other move is going to be much better than Samus' jab. At least you can pressure with the Homing Missile.
How are everywhere?
@@saponso4806 They're doing great
StickMaster500 yes
Ok boomer
I'd disagree. Jab at least is a good mix up option into grab if you only jab 1, while I've never seen homing missile actually do jack squat in my year of playing elite smash except slightly annoy me.
"I'm trying to get part 2 out before the end of the year"
-PJiggles
TheMoonlight hmmmmm
MISSION: FAILED
HI-YAH!
420 likes guys keep it
@@CJSimpleton we already failed
Now my question is:
How the frick is Ganondorf able to do perfect split with no problem at all?
"let's strech our legs"
He's a wizard
me who literally just presses random buttons: ah yes, i understand
Ikr, I will never understand how these people have such dedication in order to figure out every reaction to every scenario, at least for their main. It’s pretty respectable, honestly.
@@thepinkterror2907 it paids off w beautiful stylish combos which is sick, also they appear very intelligent
MaShEr
This sounds so much like my little sister (she plays Bayonetta), honestly it isn’t a bad strategy, I used to main Yoshi and would only spam random buttons, using this strategy I lost all my friends as I destroyed them with egg roll and ground pound, (they are sweaty with Kirby, game and watch and Captain Falcon)
I don’t know any combos, but I at least know what the moves do.
"Kirby doesn't really have a bad move."
Gee I wonder why.
because in triple deluxe,he is supersain
Juan Cabrera
In KSA Kirby’s the reincarnation of the (true) destroyer of worlds. You really went for KTD?
Because he is a jack of all trades that's supposed to be for beginers
jay quickblade Hohoho! You watched the RelaxAlax video too?
@@adomali87yearsago.71 yeah and being honest giving kirby an outright bad or non-useful move would kind of be a dick move on sakurai's end
As kirby is for beginers in a way
“Smash brothers has characters.” *He is speaking the language of the gods.*
Next you're going to tell me the Nintendo switch has games
SadWeedle Nah dude, Nintendo switch has movies. Duh
@@kinlaw7220 *P* *E* *R* *I* *S* *H*
Hmm yes the floor here is nade out of floor
Because we didn't have enough lame phrases spammed to oblivion. The gods weep.
Wow, never knew EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER has their own discord.
Copies dont
@@kylefarrell849 maybe some do, I saw a dark samus server in the list I think
@@leoleo4469 some
@@leoleo4469 or steve there
Smash ultimate is just _that_ popular.
"Every character has at least 1 bad move", pikachu left
lok
“But Kirby, how is your dair your worst move? It’s so good!”
“That’s my secret, Cap. I don’t have any bad moves.”
You_just
Yeah but no, kirby is genuinely ass and shit
1: this is in comparison to the rest of his kit
2: This is Smash Ultimate. almost everyone except mac is usable
@@gypsysprite4824 Mac is usable. Just if this was Street Fighter not Smash Bros.
Little Mac is god on KoF stadium
His moves are neither good or bad, just eh.
12:58 "because Pichu fliesoff at the speed of light-"
Me: "... ning"
7.0.0 just made several things on this list down right wrong:
- Zelda's f-tilt is now so strong that the risk for throwing it out is much more worth is in a lot of situations. Her new worst move is probably f-smash? IDK what it would be but it's not f-tilt.
- Remember when Doc's down-tilt was his worst move? Now it's one of his best. Leads into combos and kill confirms into a lot of his moves. His new worst move is definitely up-tilt.
- Same thing with Young Link as with Doc. One of his worst moves is now one of his best.
Zelda's worst move is probably up Smash. It can never hit grounded characters unless they are huge and it isn't even that strong. Also people can kind of fall out of it.
He made the vid before the patch...
this video aged well
@@Jax_Two
It is still a good smash attack because it is hard to challenge from above and strong.
Zelda's f-tilt is now as strong Incineroar's making it the strongest.
“Hammer is legit better than dair”
- Someone in the Kirby Discord.
I’m sorry, but you need your head to be examined.
Yea Dair is better than hammer but hammer is def not worst.
@@muzankibutsuji8919 how so in your opinion?
@@theboi5584 If you can charge in the air, you can be a surprise from the skies.
“ Mario’s worst move is up tilt “
*cries in smash 4 mario
He mentioned how good it was in Sm4sh.
I also love cereal
@@wildberrysherbert3803 yes. We watched the video. Thank you for litterly nothing
@Blue Shy Guy I'm not but ok
Aiden Scovel who doesn’t
*Peach’s* worst move is up tilt while *Daisy’s* worst move is side tilt
He is speaking the language of the gods
It would most likely have to do with their hitboxes
EMMA MISDOM Congrats you have found: *The* *Joke*
@@invasious ... they're the same
EMMA MISDOM First of all wrong their, Second of all they are the same and all changes are purely cosmetic.
Luigi's worst move is his taunt
Never mind, It Spikes
"Smash Bros has characters. And characters have moves."
Yes, yes, the ground is indeed made of ground.
No pun intended
Hmmm, Ys, the floor here is made out of floor
“Bowser is a big boy”
He speaks the language of gods
No getup attacks included
GimR fans: You aren't including them becUse they're op
brawl bowser
AM I A JOKE TO YOU
does gimr stand for games in my ralley
No
Dolphinboi whAts gimr
Gimr’s lab
7:23
Lucina: ah what a nice day today, I’ll take a walk
Caption falcon: get over you little-
As a Kirby main myself, I can tell you that his down air is a really best move. It’s consistent, and useful when you’re in the air. Hammer is pretty useless, too slow, and has to be charged to do a lot of damage, even against a weak character. You’re better off using side air.
Ah, so you're in that phase of playing kirby
@@redtoadplush1142 kirby dair is a free spike
Yep! ,as a Kirby main hammer even tho it applies pressure against less experienced players it can easily be countered and theres probably always a better option Dair is just really good against characters like Duck Hunt and (maybe haven't tried) villager and combos into.almost every one of kirbys moves so theres no reason to say its kirbys worst
I main kirby and I think that either rock or hammer is his worst as hammer is easily countered by any hit and it damages you over time and rock can be countered with a grab. They both are deadly against weaker players though.
@@redtoadplush1142 wdym mostly all pro players agree that kirby dair is one of his best moves being xo considered one of the best spikes in the game
Samus jab: Im not a joke anymore since he forgot about me yay.
smurftaz1 hold up a second, jab 1 is not actually her worst move
Sounds crazy, but let me explain. Everyone already knows that jab 1 infamously doesn’t connect into jab 2, but it actually has its uses. You can dash in the opposite direction and pivot fsmash or grab, depending on what the opponent does after being hit by jab 1. Obviously it’s not ideal, but better than homing missiles, which is a complete joke
So wouldn't that mean jab 2 is the worst? At least missiles can sort of apply pressure I guess.
rancorousGamer absolutely, I’ve seen some niche uses of homing missiles here and there, but it’s rare to ever see jab 2 in a high level tournament, pretty much serves only as a mix up
@@chrisnguyen2316 Yeah, jab 2 is definitely worse than homing missile
@@chrisnguyen2316 At least homing is costless annoyment, and being not great makes it a fair bit less predictable.
"every character has a bad move"
me, a [insert character here] main: ???
Kirby
Worst part is people actually answered with a character, doing literally the exact thing you're mocking.
Lucario
@@ivanhui6051 my boy Lucario doesn't have bad moves
Yoshi
Kirby's worst move is neutral b against puuf
Yeah puff can easily make it back from Kirby's swallow-cide
I know this has already been brought up, but man, I just can't agree with Samus's Homing Missile being worse than Jab 2. Jab 2 has such bad frame data that most characters can literally get hit by Jab 1 and then spot-dodge, shield, or even *hit you back* before Jab 2 connects. The best thing you can do probably 95% of the time after Jab 1 is to run away and throw out something to mix your opponent up. Hell, AFAIK, it's the only move in Smash that's so bad *the in-game tips tell you not to use it*.
While homing missile isn't great, you can use it to close off some approaches, in some tech situations, to condition jumps, etc., in situations where committing charged shot to it is prohibitive. It doesn't connect often, but conditioning the reaction to Missile and closing off options with a low-commitment move is still really useful in a lot of situations.
"i won't spend too much time on each character"
*20 minute video*
*part 1 of three*
The funny thing is: that is in fact spending not so much time on each character
Jigglypuff: ...........
I like longer videos :D
“Luigis worst move is his side special”
Alpharad:See that’s where you’re wrong
I feel like luigis side special being luigis worst move contradicts what he kept saying at other parts of the video that these are the least useful moves Bc it’s useful as a recovery tool right
Hey hey
64 likes
Cool!
P.s. I’m saying this because of n64 I’m not one of those “tHaNkS 4 dE lIkEs!” Kinds of people
It's either his worst or best move depending on luck.
@@luna-stargazer True that.
BIRD UP
2:20 DK’s down smash isn’t meant to kill, it’s meant to trap people who roll too much.
Him getting tricked into nominating down air instead of the very obvious hammer for kirby was so funny
let’s be honest, some of you thought these moves were good at first.
isabelleeeee09 I admit it. I DID thinks some were good.
Don’t bully me but i thought rollout was good -_-
As a Link main, I have been using Dash attack as a kill tool for all of smash ultimate. Now I have to reteach myself to use forward tilt instead
As a lifelong Mario main, I still have Smash 4 up tilt engraved into my memory, so I use it occasionally. I still need to teach myself not to use it, but it's difficult after the reign of terror that it caused back in Smash 4.
i still refuse to believe Kirby's worst move is dair
I get the joke now: Kirby’s down air is actually his greatest tool.
That means that rollout the Jigglypuff’s best move. Thanks for the knowledge!
No actually it's not do not use rollout, it's garbage and has been since smash 1-here
guacamole just guacamole r/woooosh
@@ivanhui6051 of course somebody who missed a point of a joke in a different thread would be epicly dankly r slash wooshing someone
Dair is not his best tool up b on battlefield is
guacamole just guacamole lol
Next every Character’s worst moves [PATCHED]
challange: win an online smash battle using only your worst attack
Already done. I have won using only byleth down b
Piranha Plant main here, no... just no.
No way in hell kirby’s dair is worse than hammer flip
It's not even close
As a sad kirby main myself, I would say it is his jab. No joke I've never used it.
@@humbertovillarreal7108 How the hell is jab bad? Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it's bad
@@jumble6820 the first hit had basically less range than PP
LBP tails gamebreaker yeah but it comes out on FRAME 2 and it does decent damage and knockback, far from a bad move, let alone the worst one.
18:57 "Jigglypuff's Rollout goes at Mach 10" is a rediculous enough claim to be in the Pokédex. (Seriously, the writers of that thing just love Mach Speed and destroying vehicles.)
I dont know how Samus' worst wasnt her jab. It's a two-hit jab where the first hit doesnt even combo into the second hit (or anything else), and it only does 3.6% damage. The homing missiles can at least add some ranged pressure in some situations
18:36
This part is just hilarious
Bonk
4:25 There’s no way that Kirby down air is considered worse than hammer or rock, hammer in particular. the only thing I can think of for hammer is using it in the air on some1s shield for good shield damage (can’t even break full shield), but it’s probably the most predictable and worst setup of any shield break, and its the only actual use I could find. Zero chance d-air is the worst kirby move
I'm a Kirby main and was HIGH KEY confused how these dudes thought that Dair was worse than rock or hammer XD
these dudes trolled him there's no way
I legit don’t think I have ever inputted a side b in my entire time playing Kirby
@@Deadbush2003 same
I actually kinda love Side-B from an emotional standpoint but it's pretty useless in most situations. I love the good strong kills
Guys, prepare for the “Who’s watching this in 2020?” comments. We are all scared
I agree. Very scary.
Yes.
Oh god, I’m not ready
We need an army to combat this new threat
AppleCubing26
My 18th Birthday is on that year!
It’s fun to see how these have changed after buffs and nerfs. Dr mario dtilt now has a disgustingly powerful kill confirm as well as being an amazing combo starter now.
18:05 plus If your facing the wrong direction, you get a one way trip into the blast zone
"I'm trying to get this out before the end of the year"
Pjiggles - 12/18/19
*18/12/19
@@RandomStando no people write the date differently
@@abowlofguacamole8558 no
DogeSmash ` yes
@@hypnobagels8634 no
I feel like Kirbycord trolled you or something, I can’t imagine Hammer Flip or even Inhale getting better use than dair
*sigh*if only inhale was as big as bowser
No Dair really sucks and Hammer is good when your opponent is conered and that you have enough time to charge it
@@hugowax5197 have you play kirby before?
@@borjaarellano9966 I have 2000h in this game and I'm a Kirby main since Smash 4
Hammer isn't amazing obviously but it covers most get up options, have super armor and kills super early. Not a move you will use every match but when it works it's really good
Sorry for my english x)
A witch: *has broken moves*
Jigglypuff's moves: *JIGGLYPUFF* also how is sleeping the most effective move in smash history???
18:18
Don't remember too much about Smash 4, but if you can't control the move why did that Puff look like it was TRYING to miss the stage
There’s no way in hell some of these guys aren’t trolling
if they are then PJiggles will recognize it, he has common sense after all...
True
@J Z Dair is at least very close to the worst, if not straight up the worst, so i can see reasonings for it,
but he always asks for a specific reasoning behind it and sees is he agrees to it after that
@J Z easy combo starter and useful spike? Little range, slower than ganondorf dair, and such a weak spike that lots of characters can live through it. It seems really good against people who have no idea what's going on
Jake from State Farm It seems rlly good against characters with linear or bad recoveries. How would hammer flip be better?
"Don't quote me on that."
-PJiggles, 2019
""Don't quote me on that."
-PJiggles, 2019"
-Bone storage, 2019
Ah I see what u did there. Nice one
“Don’t quote me on that.”
-Pjiggles, 2019
-Bone Storage, 2019
-hhh hhh, 2019
"don't quote me on that."
-Pjiggles, 2019
-Bone storage, 2019
-hhh hhh, 2020
-Cade-O Potato
@@stoked-6996 "you miss 100% of the shots you dont take" -wayne gretsky -Michael Scott
This series is amazing
I've watched it like 12 times
Same
12:07 I don't know if the recent patches changed Docs worst move, but from my experiences, Down Tilt is Docs best tilt. It's a good combo set up as it can lead into itself once or twice then a grab. For me, one down tilt can lead into 40 to 50%.
changed doc a lot
watch part 3
Honestly cannot see at all how Kirby’s down air is his worst move. Especially compared to his near useless side special
Kirby discord is made up of people dumb enough to main Kirby
I think they were just trolling him
It’s only effective as a powerful shield break punish, but it’s held back by it’s extremely mediocre frame data
Down B is effective at escaping juggles, but if it gets read, you’ll be left open to grabs and exiting the Stone leaves a gap for Kirby to be punished.
Strong but risky
@@AeroLeaf4oh. thanks for informing me!
PersonFromEscuela ... or maybe we don’t really care how good he is and want to play a character based on if we enjoy them?
17:03 that physically hurts. Or at least it _would_ if it had an actual hitbox!
Cries in volcano kick (honestly I know it's not even a good move but it's satisfying)
0:00 “Smash Brothers has Characters”
Me: wait what it does? Lol
“Pikachu shouldn’t jab lock”
Have you seen Esam?
Disregard ESAM if you ever try and play pika it can only lead to depression and feelings of inadequacy
Exactly
8:16 never realized how sweet that uptilt animation is up close, Peach rolling her hand like that.
captain falcon "raptor boost is a close second (worst move) because it's inconsistent as hell"
Oh you sweet 2019 child
Bowser's worst move is definitely dash attack let's be honest. What no one seems to realize is that a down angled forward tilt wont reach down far enough on stages with angled edges like lylatt and down tilt will which makes it useful on those stages. Dash attack is just a bad turnaround canceled forward tilt.
It’s D-air for Corrin. On stage, it deals decent damage and it’s range is an alright combo breaker, but off stage, it’s nearly unsurvivable, and it’s useless when it comes to your actual opponent.
thanks to the recent up special buff, you can barely survive a full hop dair off stage. still not a good option tho.
Yep, don't spike 😢
@@Klexium it can spike, you just have to hit the opponent way down... Or getting the opponent to atleast 160 or so percent.....
15:51 people on fullscreen: what you pointing at...?
I’m a Kirby main and legit I have no clue how they said that d-air is the worst. I don’t care that this is a year late.
6:50 yeah but Shield break into pkflash into grab into back throw into flex and okay
"Its not like young like has trouble killing"
what?
thats legit his only weakness.
Also Samus jab literally doesn't work, and calling Kirby's d-air bad is blasphemous
Young like
Forward Air and Up Special at 80% would like to have a word with you, and so would I since they've killed me at lower percentages
Young like
Aiden Schwenger I agree with all these, but I must add that he insulted the mighty link dash attack
Old separate
"I'm trying to get part 2 out by the end of the year" -- Pjiggles, 2019
What
what
what
End of the decade actually
Go ahead and put me on r/explainingthejoke or whatever but it’s because PJiggles said not to quote him after delivering that line
Bayonetta: Uses any move
Commentators: 2:13
Hearing Egg Roll having low shield damage is funny because now it breaks shield instantly
As a kirby main and a kirby dair advocate, that is absolutely my favorite move he has. Them bishes cray.
Also, I love edgeguarding with PK flash.
Perhaps I don’t know how to play my mains 🤔
xXBlackKZoruaXx
Ur a low level player so it doesnt really matter lol
your playing find, just know that up b ness s a wiser decision
Kirby's dair is hands down the worst spike in the game. It fails to kills at 90% against the LIGHTEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME, whereas literally every other spike cleanly kills at 50% or lower. It's slower than ganons dair, and has now where near as much knockback, this move sucks ass.
7:03 Falcon's worst move is Falcon Punch
This is more heartbreaking than Smash Ultimate not winning GOTY at the Game Awards
Nah, his dash is.
Lumka M r/whoosh
@@H1ghland1 ?
Hi Moon!
Christopher Moon technically, I agree with Pjiggles, but really, come on, that’s cheating.
The Super Paper Mario music is making me super happy. It’s underrated imo and I’m glad you used it.
"Jigglypuffs worst move is rollout"
Down tilt: Allow me to introduce myself.
down tilt is fucking great, sends at a disgusting angle, is somewhat disjointed, and 2 frames. Are we playing the same game?
PK flash in Ultimate funny enough is the the best it's been
I tend to use Flash to bait out an air dodge, then punish with Up Smash
SpicyTuna ok
SpicyTuna ok
Similar to Ganon's up tilt in Ultimate, best it's been, still awful
See time stamp 15:40.
“Yes! He’ll definitely cover G&W”
“lets stop here for now”
*Sad Beeping noise*
Him: “Peach/Daisy Up tilt and side tilt sucks.”
Me using those moves as combos: “Bruh!”
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How is Kirby Dair worse than hammer
No one uses the hammer and Dair is a good edge guarding option as well as a combo move and a follow up off f throw
same
F-throw>Dair isn't true unless the opponent DIs in.
Bruh, those Kirby mains in the Kirby discord are dumb lol
Conn Toons Dair is frame 18 & doesn’t true combo into anything.
@@Account-1536 it comboes into up tilt and it spikes with a ligering hitbox. its clearly better than side b
As a Kirby main I can tell you with 100% certainty that down air is not Kirby’s worst move, I have no idea why the Kirby discord would say that. Kirby certainly has worst moves IMO, it’s certainly very consistent for me so I agree with your confusion
At least you can HIT dair!
lol
At low percents Pika's down tilt can jab lock, so really jab is even less useful than that because he has another option to even do what jabs are best at.
The worst part about rollout is that Kirby gets much more use out of it
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I as a kirby main
Disagree with the d-air thing hammer flip would be a good move if the charge had super armor but when not fully charged its decent
Alexander Maenza with one of the custom moves in smash 4 it can literally GET super armor
3:42 I don´t know what those Kirby discord people were smoking when they said d-air is Kirby´s worst move, but it´s actually a solid combo starter; and lets you spike people with little to no effort. Whereas, his hammer is just short of useless. Don´t listen to them.
@cam pig And even then, you could do something flashy, like u-tilt into a bunch of d-airs or something.
YOU FUCKING DONKEYS DOWN AIR IS SHIT
down air:
Pros: Can sheild poke(so can down tilt)
cons: slow
slower than ganons dair
unreliable
little to no combos
slowest aerial
and it doesn't even spike sometimes
hammer flip:
pros: can beak sheilds because in the air kirby swings twice,
has super armour
good for catching jumps
cons:
slow
can only use one jump
laggy
edit: pros:good for sheild break punish
edit part 2: if its charged it can hit ppl at ledge
edit part 3: it makes ppl panic at ledge
czcams.com/video/KWA16G1KM5U/video.html
In the defense of Ganon's up tilt it's really more about that disrespect and/or style.
Arrow points at "(part 1/3)"
Me: What is this *sorcery*
I've seen all of the comments and responses on how Kirby's Side B is actually better than his Down Air and
I still can't see it
Regardless of if they are or not, it really *feels* like the Kirby discord was trolling
They were not trolling. Dair is slow, has no true follow ups if the opponent can SDI, has a terrible spike, is not safe on shield, and is a terrible landing option. Side B can ledge trap, shield break, shield break punish, and catch certain recoveries.
I know they're not trolling, it just doesn't sound right
To each their own, I'm still gonna think down air is better but it's not fact or anything, I'm not a Kirby main so it ain't in my ballpark
@@WafflesDaPancake Heh, yeah. Kirby is just very underrepresented in top level play, so people don't really know much about the character. It's really funny when non-Kirby users learn that dair is a bad move, stone and hammer flip have uses, and the Palutena Kirby matchup is even (some people are starting to think it's winning for Kirby).
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The people in that Discord for Kirby need new brains Kirby's D-Air is one of his best moves, it's good for kills, nice for combos I do, and it's an overall nice move. I don't get them at all.
dair is absolutely not Kirby's worst move, it's a combo starter, a kill confirm, a spike and has a quite generous hitbox for how small kirby is, hammer flip on the other side is similar to falcon punch in the way that it isn't a viable attack for how long it takes to land, not only that but you can easily be punished for it
Taken directly from Ice_killer 305
Hammer is a bit better and with how dair is, being frame 18, inconsistent, when offstage can even get YOU killed, and overall isn't the best kind of move to just throw out
in this clip, a Kirby used dair offstage like normal but DIED for it
clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedTallHabaneroNotATK
When we were asked what was the worst move we all made sure to give the right answer, we weren't trolling anyone, Dair is NOT our best move, is it good? its meh but Hammer can
- ledgetrap (if fully charged, has super armor frames 11-17)
- used for catching jumps (even off stage which will net you more kills earlier than dair will on most occasions)
- the optimal shieldbreak punish (this is obvious)
- can be used to get a shieldbreak (Although Kirby doesn't have any true shieldbreak set ups in this game, hammer can be used if someone is caught shielding too much
I ENCOURAGE you to join the Kirby Discord and to look into the #metagame channel as we are showing why dair isn't as good as people say
Dair's only usage is to spike linear recoveries offstage without hitboxes. Even so, it doesn't spike till 120. For down airs, it's among the worst in the game.
@@chesslo2158 ok but why do professional kirby players at tournaments use dair more than hammer then if dair is apparently worse than hammer?
I have found 1 use for hammer and that’s edge guarding. It’s still not amazing though, because you have to use it from the stage.
i guess but none of those examples could really be used practically in a match vs dair often being used to close out stocks and being kirby's main combo starter along with forward throw
"Every character's gotta have at least one move that isn't good, right?"
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Falcon punch is my favorite move it's so bad that when anyone hits it everyone pops off. Also the yell. And the fire falcon visual. (Great series pjiggles)
I'm a kirby main and I think that Down air is his BEST move
Preston Skipp The Kirby discord is comprised of serious players alike, and the top players there agree it’s one of his worst
Comes out frame 18
-12 on shield
Can’t kill until 140+% near ledge (neutral air can finish the job faster)
Only 10 aerials are slower than that out of the 380 aerials here
Chesslo
I don't care
It's a great combo starter an amazing edge guard and does decent damage
Preston Skipp Ok so you completely ignore my argument, which means I win
Got it
No
You forgot all of its hidden potential
Preston Skipp if you want to understand why down air is bad, please watch Juggleboy’s video on it
czcams.com/video/KWA16G1KM5U/video.html