Koreans Try To Pronounce Difficult English Words For The First Time
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2022
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he said "comfortable" perfectly in colloquial english, the computer pronounced it "correctly" but that's not how anyone really says it
Like with "bitch." They should have been told the #1 definition of the word, so it doesn't have to be said with anger, or force.
Cumfterbul
@@Whoozerdaddy good point, i didn't even think about that
That's the way I and most people I know pronounce it. I would suppose that you say "carmel" for "caramel", too. And "lick-rish" for "liquorice" (lick-or-iss).
@@Whoozerdaddy Of course it does! No one who says that word is talking about dogs.
She absolutely NAILED the word "b*tch". That was 100% authentic. 🤣
Her attempt at a "cool american" accent is really cute and pretty good!
It strikes me as trashy American, slovenly and crass. It was embarrassing.
It's trashy.
@@mikemondano3624grumpy ahh
They did really well. I am Canadian and they did great. He pronounced "probably" perfectly, just like we do in 🇨🇦
Oops, I mean he pronounced "comfortable " perfectly lol
tbh I think we pronounce it more like "proberly" or probly
These 2 are big personalities.
I worked with a Korean woman for 12 years that came to the US in the 80's. She learned English the hard way, by personal experience and watching TV. I worked with her a lot on short and long e's and ih. She had a lot of trouble with some sounds and I coached her on when to leave her tounge flat, when to tuck the tip behind her bottom teeth, when to push it up under her top teeth, when sounds come from your throat, etc. I worked with her a long time on saying refrigerator. She could always get the first r in a word, but pronounced it as an L if there was more than one. I finally just told her to say fridge. You almost need a fluent speaker to work with you and help you on the little things.
These 2 were close enough most of the time, at least close enough to be understood. That's all you really need. There are too many different English accents to hold anyone to a high standard.
Hopefully, you got someone to test your pronunciation before inflicting it on unwitting foreigners.
Onomatopoeia means words made up to represent a sound. In korean you say things like "bogeul bogeul" if something is boiling, right? In English, we have words like "sizzle" when something is frying in a pan. There are plenty of animal onomatopoeias and you can find ones in comic books too! Like "BAM, BOOM, POW!"
I speak English and feel like a student learning this word and you explaining it. Great job. Thanks.😁👍
Also a Batman villain
Speaking of Batman, comic books have extensively used onomatopoeias throughout its existence
The only Korean onomatopoeia I know is "kong", because of the joke I heard someone say, which was "Q: What do you call a king that falls over? A: King Kong", with "kong" being the Korean onomatopoeia for falling, kinda like the English words "kerplunk" or "crash" (I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of any more on the top of my head at the moment lol).
@@Kingdom_Of_Dreams The "ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ" which is basically their version of lol and you'd probably often see in Korean chat is an onomatopoeia.
@@BrokenNoah Is that a word though? I thought it was just the "k" sound 😂
They did really well. There's tons of people with different accents in the u.s. so we get pretty used to hearing different words pronounced different ways. English doesn't require precise annunciation to be understood.
So true!!
Sanghak knows more English than he thinks. He's always modest. But he's so handsome and friendly, no one is bothered.
Seeun is the best thing to happen to this channel in a quite a while. She's adorable and funny as hell. Please put her in more videos. My sides hurt from laughing at her goofy jokes.
5:19 technically correct, but NOT how we pronounce the word, at least here in America. We pronounce it just how Sanghuk pronounced it, so I do not appreciate that the "official" pronunciation was used to make him think he was wrong, when he was right. NO ONE in the States will walk around saying com-FERT-able instead of COMF-terble.
@Falon Perry Interesting! Where are you from?
@Falon Perry Awww I miss Washington so much. I was born and raised in CA, but I got the chance to live in WA for 5 years and I miss it every day. Imagine waking up everyday and your house is surrounded by beautiful forest trees! Now I'm in AZ...you can imagine my disappointment in having left WA behind. What made you move to Michigan?
@Falon Perry I can totally understand. I'm sorry you're in a place you don't like, and a place that's so different from what you knew growing up. The West coast is so chill and open in comparison to other areas. I hope everything's going okay for you right now. How long have you been in Michigan for?
@Falon Perry Well, finances are the biggest issue for me. Sounds like we have a similarity there! I used to live in Redmond, WA, and I remember seeing brand new homes being built that were so tiny, had little to no yards around them, and were at least $1 million. There could absolutely be other places in WA that are cheaper, like the western part of the state, but I was living with my parents at the time so I couldn't stay even if I wanted to when we moved. But money would be a big factor if I ever thought about moving back. Same with CA. CA is so expensive that it's never crossed my mind to return. Also, I simply don't miss it all that much. I like traveling too, but I've never been one for the beach, so I don't miss it. I miss the forests, mountains, islands of Puget Sound, and yes, even rain in WA.
@Falon Perry Please, ramble away! Talking about the PNW is giving me lots of good memories right now 🥰 Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with a stranger like me!
1:11 They both technically got it right if you pronounce it the American English way. "Twenty" in American English goes through an omission of the second "T" to make speaking more efficient in our fast-paced city lives. Both ways are correct and pronouncing the second "T" is more correct, but in terms of American English, you will more often hear the second "T" omitted here in the States (depending on where you live). Because of this, I don't like that they were corrected. They should have been told that both pronunciations are correct.
.... ooo Sanghak speaking to me in Korean and English.
Now I'm melting.
Se Eun is hilarous.
I love her!! Can we keep her ?? Lol
Se Eun her personality is so energetic and chaotic. I am instantly a fan of her personality haha
Haha same
Sanghak is selling himself short. Some of the trickier, longer words he did really well with and had no problem understanding exactly the word he was trying to say. I hear worse pronunciations of comfortable, thorough, through, and other similar words on a regular basis. He's pretty good. Meanwhile, Seeun nailed the semantics of beach vs the other word.
The semantics of those words could fill books. It is one of the most difficult sciences.
These two are really entertaining. Don't feel bad I just started learning Hangul and I have no clue. On another note, I think these two should go on a coffee date. They're well suited for each other. 💕💕💕🙏✌️💪 Thanks for the video 😉
NO, I don't 🛳 it!
He seems...like he doesn't like women
You should try Korean. No one speaks any language called "Hangul". 한국어 is spoken in South Korea. 한글 (Hangul) is a writing system easily learned in one afternoon.
I think he's onto something when he mentioned how English requires more use of the lips! I've been learning Korean since April, and I've noticed that I've had to restrict the way my mouth moves in order to pronounce things correctly. There are so many vowel/consonant combinations in English that require your mouth to do gymnastics to say them correctly.😅
Welcome Seeun!!! Look forward to many more of your videos!
Sanghak pronounced "comfortable" pefectly for American english. The computer voiced "comfortable" was the British english pronunciation.
Onomatopoeia sounds like a Greek word. This illustrates the problem with English: it's not a language. It's a Frankenstein monster of Old German, Greek, Latin and French, with Scandinavian, Spanish and a little Dutch thrown in for good measure.
Isn't that the running joke/meme? "English is the one that chases other languages into a dark alley then rifles their pockets for spare vocabulary," or something like that"
@@MagsonDare hilarious!
She must really love hip hop/rap music. Because all her pronunciations were related to sounding like she’s rapping along with using the hand gestures.
Trust me when I say some of these words are even hard for native English speakers...through and thorough and two of the hardest words because they are so similar in spelling.
You both did great!
The problem is made harder by the fact that English spelling and prnounciation do not map onto each other as well as in many other languages. Let a foreigner learn Swedish to the extent that they have studied English, and they would pronounce previously unknown Swedish words much better than what we are seeing and hearing here.
Nice vídeo, good job guys.👏👏
My friend always had a hard time saying the word HEALTH. I used to think he was saying HELL. And if I wasn't listening carefully I would always need him to repeat 🤣
She's got a lot of energy. The newbie is not shy.
I love their energy.
Both of you, your pronunciations weren't bad. There are some words that have different pronunciations that are perfectly fine, especially in different parts of the world. One such word is mischievous. Some say mis-chee-vee-us; others say mis-chif-us. Even aluminum (a-loo-min-um) is pronounced differently in the UK and former colonies. There they say ala-min-i-um, and the word is also written differently: aluminium.
Yeah baby! 😂 need to get this girl back, she is hilarious
You must mean to warn her about using sexist language like "baby" and trashy words like "yeah".
When she acts slang she get the pronunciation almost perfect.
You guys did awesome!! Those words are still hard for some native English speakers so don't feel bad haha. Love from America 🤗❤💐
For me (and most others), one of the hardest parts of learning English, are all of the words that sound identical, but have entirely different meanings/spellings.
You should be really mean one day and show them a bunch of THOSE words and have them talk about it. 😂
*(Example)*
Threw/through
Hair/hare
Toe/tow
To/two/too
There/their/they’re
Where/ware
Here/hear
Air/heir
Higher/hire
(Etc).
Watching them learn English words was cute, adorable and hilarious 🤣😂🤣
They are really good sports. Cool.
That last word tho. 😁
When Onomatopoeia showed up I’m ngl it took me a couple of tries to say it correctly myself 😭😂😂 was not expecting that word and it took my English speaking self off guard
One of my favorite video is where RM of BTS was asked if there were still words in English that he had trouble with and he said yes. When asked to give an example, he stated "Extraterrestrial". When he demonstrated his difficulty with the word, the other member were so use to RM's proficiency in English that they started trying to say the word exactly as RM was incorrectly saying it. It was so adorable!!!! 😂 Also. my favorite example of the complexity of the English language, A booty call is totally different from a butt dial.!!!!🤣
"A booty call is totally different from a butt dial!!!!"
And "Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned" means something completely different from "Sorry Daddy, I've been a bad girl" too.
@@MagsonDare Amen to that brother.
I wanna hear them try to pronounce something like
“English is weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought though.”
No, you don't. You just wanted to make a post to try to look clever. You failed.
They are hilarious. Love this show
I think they did really well. In fact, there were a few words that their pronunciation was corrected but didn't need to be. They may not have enunciated every syllable, but most Americans don't either. Most Americans pronounce comfortable as a 3 syllable word exactly like they initially did. Now for some hard to pronounce New Orleans street names. We can begin with Tchoupitoulas... Lol 😆
True. Trash usually have 3-syllable "comfortables". Most people have 4-syllable ones.
they did great!!! i'd confuse the hell out of them. i have a new jersey accent but i live in the south, and i'm an accent sponge, so i say things differently depending on who i'm talking to. if it's my mom back in jersey, then my jersey comes out. if it's a cashier or waitress down here, then i "how y'all doin' tonight" right back at them and i literally cannot help it lol
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She's hysterical 🤣
Desk would've been better than desks. The "ks" is confusing to pronounce. Is it a computer pronouncing the words? The "s" in Months should be pronounced. Anyway, they both did very well and I learned that "Korean sounds more choppy and linear"! This will help me with my Korean! ❤
Onomatopoeia is hardly ever used and all it means is that the word is created because of the sound that something makes. Examples are "sizzle" and "cuckoo'.
I would be very intimidated to learn English if I wasn't a native-speaker...!! It's not the easiest of languages as it borrows a lot of its foundations from the base of other languages. Then, there are all the different 'accents' or dialects, which increase the many inconsistencies & tricky pronunciations found in English. It also has a plentiful supply of homonymous words that make it even more challenging to learn. I think these two did really well because I could understand them & that's all that is needed, really. I feel confident that their English is *100% better* than any attempt I could make at speaking Korean. As for reading Hangul, well, I would not know where to start but would love to try...!!
_(note: This comment is referring to the GenAm accent, not regional/dialectical variations, of which there are many.)_
They said "twenty" in a more natural/native way than the "correct" version. Generally speaking, unless we're emphasizing something, we rarely actually fully pronounce the "t" in most contexts. It's more of an "n" sound or a glottal stop than a fully aspirated and separate "t" sound (it's called T-glottalization). We tend to swallow/cut off the full "t" sound. If somebody says "twenty" to you the way that correction did -- with the fully pronounced second "t" -- it's likely to come across as someone being upset or a jerk.
And then there's more native-speak quirks, like our tendency to pronounce "probably" as "prawbly" and either slur or completely drop the middle syllable -- again, unless we're being pedantic out of anger or to be a jerk.
They're having so much fun yelling "b1tch!" 😆 It'd be funny to see them reacting to, say, dog breeders or kennel owners or something using it in its completely innocuous original context.
Boy, you got "comfortable" right. This auto-voice corrector is leading y'all astray on some of this stuff. Any native speaker who actually pronounces this as "com-for-ta-ble" is 99% certain to be doing it to be funny or weird. We say it just like he did: "com-fter-bul."
And again the corrector is misleading. We say the singular "month" pretty much phonetically, except for changing the "o" to more of a "u" sound; the pronunciation the correct gives -- "munth" -- is literally how we say the singular version (no "s"). But our pronunciation of the plural "months" almost completely drops the "th" digraph and replaces it with a slight "t" sound: "munts." Because actually pronouncing it the way the corrector says -- "monTHs" -- is a nonfunctional way to actually speak fluidly.
I always forget how hard "squirrel" seems to be for most non-English speakers (I've seen people from numerous countries and language systems try it). Logically, I can see why it's hard, but it's something you don't tend to think about if you grew up saying it. Language is a head trip.
Depends whether it is standard, American, British & Australian. Sometimes, it's better to just read & come up with your own pronunciation in your head. 😅 I think they did a good job considering that it's their first time.
So friggin' hilarious how she struggles normally with everything else but she got that 'MURICAN "BITCH" down perfectly 😂
Seeun, you're very pretty and funny, you did great for your first time. And for any Koreans or anyone else who has trouble saying "refrigerator", it's pronounced "ice-box". 😏
She's beautiful
How about watching the training of incoming recruits to West point military academy.
Germans have trouble with “squirrel” too. French have trouble with “hamburger.”
Maybe he thinks English has a lot of mouth movements because he doesn't know all the shortenings. Probably is often pronounced "prob-lee". And he said "comfortable" correct, it's usually shortened as "comf-ter-bul"
Colonel
Good luck.
Choir🤣 yes, welcome to english, ch is pronounced like a q in this word🤣
4:17 perfection
As someone from the southern US I pronounce these like this
1. Desks- dess
2. Twenty- twunny
3. Choir- kweye
4. Probably- prolly/probly
5. Comfortable- comftable
Most short tongues can be repaired surgically now. You no longer need to live your life sounding like you have a mouthful of hot potato.
The funny thing is that some of these words aren't English in origin. English borrows a lot of words from other languages.
actually not borrowed, 70% of english words were off of being conquered or discovering new things
You should have used a speaker, they did a lot of pronouncing correctly. We often change the T sound to a D sound in American English in many words -- which they did. They probably picked it up from TV or movies. An easy example is, Water sounds more like wader. Or, see you later is said more like see you lader. :)
Damn she straight up gangsta!!
TBH the softness in beach and the aggressiveness in bitch is probably the best way to pronounce those words for non-native speakers.
I love asking g my Korean father in law say "Larry at the rally".
This is so great!
I am good at speaking different languages accurately, but not necessarily prolific. So hearing them speak words so accurately is SO neat!
Clearly, English is not among them, or you don't know what "prolific" means. Your diction is also bizarre overall. For example, people don't "speak" accurately unless they are correct in the meaning of what they say. You mean "pronounce" accurately.
@@mikemondano3624What was intended is that I speak with more accurate accents. I am speaking more specifically in how words are pronounced, the nuances of a specific language and mouth/tongue movements. I have not mastered any language, including my own.
I am curious. If you don’t teach language/diction/speaking, do you interface with other people in this same manner?
As a Brit the computer's pronunciation of thorough hurts me...lol..
lmfao shes cray cray
I used to think Han was the most beautiful Korean boy I’ve ever seen but Sanghak might have him beat 😍😍
you should read to Kay flock he is a rap artist from the bronx New York, I would recommend the songs "PSA" and "Is Ya Ready" (they aren't copyright)
3:09 this sums up Sanghak pretty well lol
These two would probably make a good couple
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😅
Antiestablishmentarianism try that next time
LOL that's so mean!!
I am thankful they didn't do tough, though, and thought along with through and thorough that they did in this vid 😂 That's just cruel.
@@Kingdom_Of_Dreams Or I could have tried Llanfairpwllgwyngyll a real city name in Wales. Or Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis or Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia
English is such a fascinating language
@@JaketheJust Or all the diseases that even doctors are forced to shorten with acronyms, like Fibrodisplasia Ossificans Progressiva (FOP) LOL
@@JaketheJust Black lung disease and ... hmmm.... I learned "sesquipedalian" as "1.5 foot long" back in 8th grade, so slapping "phobia" on the end and hippopotamic and monstrous on the front must make it "fear of reaallllllllllly long words" or something similar, no?
4:17 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is bitch a cuss word in Korea as it is in the states
Even though I’ve been speaking English for so long, I just realized it’s “mis-chie-vous” and not “miss-chee-vee-ous”
4:24 if I had closed my eyes, I would have sworn she was American haha perfect!
Don't worry I had a hard time pronouncing some of those words too! And I speak english! 😅👍
Doubt it.
Onom???... I had no clue guys.. not a word I've ever heard or used.
I died when she said BITCH 🤣
You need to get ChaCha from OSSC youtube channel , she is funny, cute and her English is pretty good.
Any British or South Africans here like, that bloody American lady messed up all the word pronouncements. Bloody hell!
next they should try pronouncing english medical terms those are pretty much unpronounceable by anyone who did not learn doctor stuff
I enjoyed “beach” and “bitch”. I think about when Jimin and Tae were trying to say “beach” and it came out “bitch”. Squirrel was the runner up.
First?
Yup
For what its worth... most Americans cant pronounce that last one either lol.
So do people in Korea just use the show friends to learn English?
Apparently, all the time lol. I first heard about this being a thing when the kpop star Young K from Day6 said he learned English from Friends (he even lived abroad for a while). I keep hearing this to be true for others!
2:15 lulz
Skwhirl
English is weird because it's a phonetic language, in which you have to literally say what you mean
But ucan rite d same things en komplyt differint wheys andsteell sehda saym sheet
Non native English translation =
But you can write the same things in complete different ways and still say the same shit
Also trying to figure out where the syllables and vowels are located
Should get them to try to read English shorthand
You did so well! I struggle with Korean pronunciation I'm told it's because I enunciated English at the front of my mouth, while many Korean words require using the back; similar to German, which I also have some trouble with.
"I'm told". That says it all. You are always looking for someone to obey. People are just being kind to you because they pity you.
The producers had to be cheeky and add a word at the end to which very few any Americans know the meaning, let alone how to pronounce it. You sly dogs!
I’m 27 and I never heard of onomatopoeia
I'm 72 & have never heard it!
I doubt most people from the U.S.A. would know what "Onomatopoeia" means... I remember having that as a vocabulary word in 10th grade, circa 1972...Bing, Boom, Bang which were highlighted on the Batman TV show....
I love these kind of videos but if you're going to teach people English, teach them English not "American English"
To be fair, the last one is English attempting to sound Greek.
English is a hodge lodge language. Less than half of it is Germanic, which is where we get Old English from.
@@Kingdom_Of_Dreams English follows other languages down dark alleys and mugs them for random grammar.
Koreans react to Western girl groups
FLO - Cardboard Box
Boys World - Girlfriends
CuteBad - Hotseat
Citizen Queen - No ego
You guys did awesome!! Those words are still hard for some native English speakers so don't feel bad haha. Love from America 🤗❤💐
"America"? There are 23 countries in North America and 14 in South America. Which one?