Stumpjumper EVO vs Ibis Ripmo AF
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You know, I just appreciate regular bike talk between two people instead of tooooo much technical jargon. Love, Spinderella
Always love watching you ride and hearing you speak.
Love this type of video. The back and forth comparisons are great. More of this, please.
Thanks Casey, here's another: czcams.com/video/VdCXz4Hrmgw/video.htmlsi=KBoQ_oc57TwM0D9u
The title plug in was a nice add 👌
Loved the video, both are bikes I am interested in: from the video I think I would go for the Ripmo.
Very nice to see Logan again 👍
Thanks Boe!
I'm glad I'm not the only person in the world that makes dirt bike sounds when I ride mountain bikes. ;)
As an owner of the evo, I have to agree with the slow tech turning, it turns like a limo, but man when you get some speed n jumps involved that bike comes to life!
I run mine in mixed wheel and it is much better turning in the hi ( rear) and mid ( headtube set up) The work around is if you have a stock bar just shorten the bar 10mm on each side. It makes it more responsive.
@@justsayin3600 I just went from 800’s to my 785 40mm rise and that made a huge world of difference. But that was on a DH day here, will know more when my ribs stop hurting and get out on a regular ride again lol
Really enjoy the comparison videos!
Can you try the new Gen 6 Trek Fuel EX?
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Great job. Love to see Logan’s take as well. I’m patiently waiting for you to get ahold of the Revel Rail to add into this mix. Rented one with a 160 fork in Sedona and it was magnificent.
Thanks Logan!
thanks to your videos went with the evo!! not regreting it.
Another Fantastic vid from Jeff!
I rode Rat Pack earlier this year when I was in Cle Elum! So cool to see in a JKW video! That wooden bridge is scarier than you make it look :)
Have the Stumpy EVO AF, also ridden the Ripmo AF briefly. Both are fun and similar, the EVO was in stock at the time though.
Thankyou Logan.
Fun video! Thanks for making it, I have a stumpy and have been curious about the ripmo. A buddy of mine got a V2s recently and I think its neat but its hard to evaluate them back to back because hes been having issues with his X2.
It sounds like the bikes are more similar than they are different and I tend to prefer faster and more bike park like terrain so sticking with my stumpy fits how I ride better. Still think the Ripmo is a cool bike though!
This is my most favorite video from y’all to date, enjoyed every second of it… gimme a hella tuff tech climb shootout next time🤘
Mate love your videos, Its real life testing doing some sectioning of tracks and mucking around. 👍👍
I wanted both but i bought a Norco Sight instead. thanks for the comparison.
It’s the comparison I was looking for 👍I have the ripmo af today and thinking about the stumpy Alu evo for my next bike. Couple of years left before need to decide 🙏
Right on Magnus!
How did this not hit my feed for 4 days? I'm a Patreon supporter! Lol! As always Jeff, good stuff. Nice to see Logan out with you again. He, too, is a talented rider and has good instincts. I don't prefer either, never ridden either, but if one is better going slower, that's me.
great video @JeffKendallWeed But I didn't quite catch what setting you have the Chainstay flip chip set at on the Stumpjumper to compliment the 29er and mullet link... do you prefer the long or short setting for this set up?
Awesome! I thought I was the only one running mullet link with rear 29 and slack head angel!?!
Fun back to back comp! I noticed that the fork had more LSC on the Ripmo. What about the bikes that made you guys vary the damping amount you think? I find that 1/3 turn on my Z1 totally changes how easily I jump or get into manuals.
Jeff, was that the neutral or steep headset cup? Sounded like it was the short/high rear setting with the mullet link? Thanks. Based on your all settings video I’ve been swapping settings to find the sweet spot. I think I’m happiest running short rear-end /neutral headset cup/cascade link with a 170mm ZEB. Good everywhere.
Great video, will you ever review the new trek slash?
New video styling is good, and the colour grading on this video jumped out at me right away. So, so *so* good. Awesome job boys!
Thanks Pete! Reilly did a great job of editing, and I used a color grade he made for a different video and tweaked it slightly. Been trying to apply the QT Gamma correctly- sometimes it works, often it doesn't hahahaha!
Amazing timing on the video dude. I ride a Ripmo v2s but have been looking at the Evo purely for the downtube storage. My Ibis pork chop bag makes a heck of a racket! And it’s nice to ride the after work rides with no pack. With the sales going on, feels like trying an Evo and swapping parts is attainable.
That's exactly what I did. Stumpy is better on the steep stuff. Ripmo is better at switching from turn to turn.
Thanks for watching! I never use any sort of in frame storage. I juggle 5-10 bikes so I just use a pack or a hip bag or just send it with no tools (my personal fave hahaha).
Jeff I've done the same thing with my Stumpy EVO as I wanted the long CS and long front center (as I'm on the end of an S4 and S5) - mullet link to raise the BB by +11mm, and low/slack is a -9mm BB so in the end it's 2mm higher than stock (and I get a bonus 5mm travel, now 155mm, using the mullet link with dual 29" wheels).
Question about the Mullet link with the 29 wheels...did you change the adjustment in rear end to lower it a bit and off set the hight you gained with the Mullet link?
@@jimharding328 Yep (mentioned it in my initial comment that I have it in long, which is also low).
Sweet video!
Are you testing them with 160mm forks? In your Stumpy Evo geometry adjustment video you had a 170mm fork. Thanks!
I am looking at these two as my next bike and first upgrade to dual sus. At 5-11 I find that I’m always between a medium and large with most manufacturers. With the Stumpy offering more sizes and the Ripmo running a bit smaller than others , the large in both fit me just right. One thing Jeff mentioned in other videos was the lower bb on the Ripmo causing pedal strikes. Points to the Stumpy for having adjustability there. Really can’t go wrong with both of these for a do-it-all trail bike on a budget! Probably go with whichever I find the best deal used. Thanks for the comparison Jeff!
I think you meant 5'11". I would thoroughly enjoy seeing you at almost 7' ride a medium. I'd subscribe to that channel 😂
I'd recommend the EVO. I have a mixed wheel Pro. I'm running a WRP yoke, and a Cascade link. It's pretty impressive and it has an insane amount of adjustability!
There's a guy that rides an S5 EVO and with my mods he says my S3 feels longer and more stable with the WRP and Cascade. The other thing is if I want to shorten it up, it's easy. If I want to run a full 29er or with my Cascade, that's easy too.
You mentioned fit. There's not another trail bike made that can be adjusted to fit your trails. If you want to ride enduro this bike can easily do that too.
With the Cascade I went from 150mm rear to 158mm.
With the Ibis the only mod is a 2° headset aftermarket and you can't run it in different configurations from the factory.
If you can't truly test each bike on the trails you ride, an EVO is definitely the right choice.
I wanted a trail bike, and thought I'd buy an enduro as a second bike later. Now that I have an EVO that's easily modded I don't need an enduro rig. I just shortened my cranks from 170 to 160mm. No more heel, toe, or pedal strikes! If you're a big guy that's the only mod the EVO really needs.
I think this bike is so good, I see just buying an S-Works frame after I trash my Pro frame.
I know I ramble but dude, get the EVO. If you're on a budget Jenson does have excellent prices on them.
Good luck!
Thanks for watching Nathan! The 2.6 tires really help the Ripmo clear more stuff with it's low BB.
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lol, yes I did mean 5-11. If I were 7 foot, at least there would be no questioning the size. Always size down to the XL!
@@justsayin3600 Update, I finally found a lighly used Stumpy frameset with unridden stock shock (Float X). Super stoked to get it built up, hopefully by the end of summer. Budget is super tight or I would have used Jeff's link for a new one at Jenson. Maybe I will grab some Z1's or something when I save up. Thank you for your input @justsayin. I will definitely try out the cascade and maybe the mullet links. Very helpful comparison, Jeff, especially for those of us without the time, cash or talent to own a lot of bikes. Appreciate what you do! Happy trails this summer, everybody.
Need to see complete setup for both bikes to see if it explains differences other than having coin vs air forks.
Jeff, do you have some numbers for the Evo with the 27.5 linkage?( Head angle and bb height) Thanks!
What configuration did you have the Stumpjumper Evo in for this test please Jeff?
Jeff, love the videos. You rip. Question..would you recommend putting the mullet link on the Evo and riding the 29" wheels? I have the Mullet link but have not purchased 27.5 wheel yet. After watching the video I was thinking of trying it. I have a 2021 S3 and I'm 5"5' and it's a little big for me. Comments welcome Thanks Jim
I added the Mullet link and lowered the rear axel adjustment. It work surprisingly well. For some reason I feel fast especially climbing. Plus I get the benefits of a higher bottom braket.
Hi Jeff, what crank length are you running on the medium Ripmo?
Hi Jeff, integrated text is fine, but could you put it in another place than bottom of picture? Since I'm not a native English speaker, I watch with the subtitles and they came superimposed to your text.
Great video as always, cheers!
I think you should try and get your hands on a Merida one sixty 6000. It's one bike that I jumped on and felt immediately comfortable. I'd love to see you ride one and share your thoughts.
This looks like such a great trail.
It's so sick. I just rode it for the first time a couple months ago. Very fun, old-school vibe. Rat Pac in Roslyn, WA.
I like that it has a few old wooden features rotting away up there still. I did find the climb up tough & boring. But the way down was fun.
@@SickPigeoni think there are a couple different ways to climb. Can’t remember the name, but we did the fairly-easy climb trail coming up from Roslyn. Then you follow the ridgetop over to Ratty. Not easy by any means, but I’m guessing much easier than the climb from Cle Elum
Great video! It’d be nice if you could list the geometry specs (or differences) between the two you tested. Because of the mullet linkage and flip chip settings, it’s hard to know exactly what geometry settings you had on the Stumpy when doing this comparison. Some of the differences between the two bikes could be due to these [static] geometry numbers and some could be due to the different suspension linkage/progression.
I left both bikes in my preferred all around set ups, it was more realistic than trying anything out of the ordinary. I can tell you right now that suspension layout (FSR vs DW) is absolutely overblown hype. Both work great, and the minor differences aren't worth losing sleep over- especially on these short 145-150mm travel bikes.
@@JeffKendallWeed Since when did 150 mm become “short” travel?
I tried a ripmo af this summer for 24h it was really fun compared to my stock at the time giant trance x, then I put a rst stich & jade x coil on the trance and it was transformed; the bike came alive.
I tried the same ripmo very recently and it felt a bit slow and harsh on every little drop. WTF
"It's not you bike, it's me"
All of that to say suspension type, settings and calibration make reviewing a bike by the numbers (like most do) a bit irrelevant.
I love the way you do the test thing.
It's SUBJECTIVE 😜🤘
Giant's Maestro suspension is somewhat similar to DW link. Dave Weagle even sued Giant when they came out with the Maestro platform, but Giant won in court.
Ive demo'd around 12 bikes this year and ive found dw links (and Orion from DW) seem to be more energetic or poppy when jumping. I haven't been on a stumpy evo but my experience is the same, DW bikes tend to just be easier to boost.
I found most FSR bikes to be easier to get off the ground, as the rear center effectively gets shorter as you put more weight on the rear wheel. DW is just fine for jumping, but ever so slightly slower to come up. But that doesn't matter one bit in real life.
Do need to run firm sag on the suspension though. I had been riding a Pivot Switchblade and I had the rear shock set to be softer and it was plush. But once I firmed up the rear suspension oh man it came alive and became much more zippy on pedaling and climbing
Awesome video and Bikes lovet
Specialized bikes like to be around 25-27% sag they have a high leverage rate so less sag and more damping usually does the trick
It would be nice to test them on a proper tech trail as well as a flow jump trail you did ride
Where were y'all shooting this one? Looks like some fun PNW trails.
Hey Jeff!! Big fan here from Spain!! I'm loving my Ripmo AF, I'm using DHR Assegai combo and I'm just curious about your 2'6 WTBs setup. I'm afraid there's no clearance with the frame in the back and with the DVO front fender. I see the 2,5 Assegai just about to rub.
Hey McCrash- gracias para el mensaje! Las cubiertas WTB 2.6 estrían perfectas para el sur de España. He montado en Granada y vive en Alicante. The Ripmo AF has plenty of space for the 2.6 in back. I use 30mm rims. I gave up on the DVO fork a couple years ago, mostly due to the lack of fender compatibility. I will say the Maxxis MaxxGrip is better for wet roots, but for dry or rocky, the WTB 2.6 set up is fantastic.
@@JeffKendallWeed nice to hear you were living in Spain!!! Alicante and Granada are quite loose and rocky!! Maybe the chunkiest places in the country!! Here in Madrid la sierra is quite similar to your current place, now is nice and loamy hahaha, but in summer is dusty and loose. I'm helping my Australian mate and he's using Schwalbe tires in his bikes. New Tacky Chan's are amazing, but I like to try everything out 😅 Maybe I'm trying your setup, I'm so curious. Thanx a lot for your time!!
For reference, 2.6 Maxxis Rekon rubs too much on my Ripmo AF with the stock 35mm ID rims. It’s not too wide, but it is too tall , the tire rubs on the link when compressing past about 50% rear travel, so every time you pump you hear the rub. I’m surprised to hear it’s not the case with WTB of the same size.
@@GermanTabor Thanx a lot!! I'll take it in consideration!! Maybe I'll try the WTBs in narrower wide.
This is my third season on my carbon Ripmo V2. I run the Fox Float X w/ 36 in front. It's an amazing do everything bike. Rarely do I feel under gunned in chunk or steeps. I'm not a big jumper but it gets off the ground easily. All this and pedals like a dream up the hill. I am wondering how a 38 would affect its feel.
Oh I like the 38 on the Ripmo, that's how I rode my V2 and V2s a good portion of the time. You can easily throw a 170mm spring in your 36 fork though, that's so much cheaper, worth a shot!
I put a 170mm Zeb 38 in my Ripmo AF. Uphill it goes well and downhill you just have to let it go. I wouldn't go back
For my new bike, im trying to decide on a stumpjumper evo, norco sight, or a transition sentinel. And for reference, im 6 ft tall 150 pounds and i live in the Abbotsford/Vancouver and i mostly ride flowy blues and chundery steep blacks please help decide which is best. And also it has to be under $5500 cad
Great video! Unfortunately lacking a very relevant comparison though: how well do both bikes' rear ends do in rough, bumpy sections over roots and rocks?
The Stumpjumper loses speed to the Ripmo in that stuff, as the FSR design isn't as forgiving due it's forward rear axle path. The DW link moves a slight bit rearward part way through the stroke, which is more forgiving. There weren't any bumps on these trails, unfortunately, but I've got hundreds of hours on each bike now.
@JeffKendallWeed terrific, thanks a lot Jeff.
How much does the evo mullet link with a 29” rear wheel change bb height and head angle?
Hi Jeff be curious on your thoughts on Z1 coil vs Z1 air. It would be cool if you did a video just on that? The Ripmo is a great bike I bought mine on sale and found a shop that let me upgrade my fork to Fox 38 as I didn't want a coil fork as thought it would dive in turns and be harder to pop off things but maybe I got it wrong. I really wish Ibis would let you pick if wanted air or coil fork. My wife has a Specialized stump Jumper Carbon Comp non EVO. Both are amazing bikes.
What's better, air or coil sprung fork?
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should try running the ripmo af as a mullet with the x2 on it. The x2 suits the mullet setup on the ripmo af well, bb is definitely low but haven't had any issue with 165mm cranks. Slackens out the angles on the ripmo and makes it corner like crazy
Nah I'm not a fan of mullets. Would rather run matching 29" wheels for most stuff. The extra traction of the 29" rear wheel means you can pump that much harder in the corners.
Dude the mullet link makes the stevo even more linear! You guys love progressive poppy bikes so that link is working against you. But maybe that’s why you like it in the steeper gnar, more linear = more predictable? Not sure, I just know I love my stevo in the mullet high slack config. What do you think?
Would love to hear Logan’s thoughts on stock link SteVo vs Ripmo
Hello I was curious about it cuz I race enduro and have an Ibis but sometimes it feels little harsh so I was thinking about stumpy. What would you recomend for an enduro racing more?
Personally, I'd rather race a Ripmo carbon. Between the AF and the Stevo, they are too similar to validate swapping one for the other IMO.
I think the bikes compliment each other more than oppose. If I had the money I'd buy both. Stumpy for DTE Energy, Ripmo for Bloomer Park.
the trail is soooo good!
Hey Jeff can you do a video on your fox 38 fork setting
This would be interesting for sure, always love a Jeff video! Also, does anyone on earth ride like Jeff? Would it be relevant to us average riders?
I would be interested in his setup as well. On my 38 I went from 2 volume spacers down to 1. I feel like it's a lot less divey this way, and still progressive enough for big hits.
I always imagine the Ripmo AF meeing Ripmo As f*ck, it's simply an extremely self-referencing bike model lol
Jeff. You HAVE to try out a Knolly Warden LT. They are really versatile and super-capable. A big enduro bike that can feel like an aggressive trail bike when needed. They also climb EXCEPTIONNALY well for 170mm enduro bikes with the lockout open.
I had a Chilcotin and could never get it riding quite right. The owner told me I’m not aggressive enough for Knolly suspension 🤷♂️
see that's the thing. The Chilcotin is the race bike of the bunch. The Warden is much more fun and playful and doesn't take itself as seriously. I was really surprised by the one I rented, set up as a mullet. Not sure about the response of the owner though. I would really like to have your thoughts on another Knolly, feels like it might have been misjudged with the Chilcotin.@@JeffKendallWeed
looking into getting an IBIS RIPMO AF do they come in 27.5 wheels?
Are your glasses being attached to the handlebar with a rubber band? It looks like it stayed on. I'll have to give that hack a try!
Thanks for Sharing. How big of a volume spacer are you running on the float x and at what % sag in the rear? @jeffkendallweed
I complain about my AF constantly, that said, I do like it quite a bit. A we are one convergence wheel set helped a lot with cornering stiffness and the cascade link, while my shock tune has negatively impacted pedalling, has made the thing a lot more bottom out resistant and poppier.
Never ridden the evo but I feel like you may as well just go bigger travel if you're going to run a bike with such aggressive geo.
The Stumpy Evo feels similar to the RAF, not a world of difference. Both bikes are great- but I gotta say, I prefer the Carbon Ripmo V2s over either of the alloy bikes.
I have an older regular specialized stumpjumper and ripmo v2s. I just switched over the ripmo tires to 2.4. For some reason, the stumpjumper seems to feel faster. The ripmo feels like it dragging down or something. I'm still working out the details. The ripmo is a month old.
Tires are the #1 thing to cause a dragging feel.
Ibis was tripping speccing Assegai tires on the Ripmo… remove the assegais and enjoy 10 extra watts
@JeffKendallWeed
Thank you for replying back. It's hard for most of us to gain all the useful knowledge on such a subject without being in the industry or costly testing.
@MikeesTexas I replaced them with a 2.4 dhr ii in the front and 2.4 dissector rear.
Now I wonder about the differences between the onyx hub vs i9 hydra rolling resistance. I currently am running i9 hydra.
Another JKW masterpiece.
I think I’m gonna try the same setting adjustments on my Evo. In stock settings, I pedal strike like mad.
I got pedal, heel and toe strikes all the time. I went from 170mm to 160mm. This made a HUGE difference! People will argue longer cranks are better for leverage but if you're getting pedal strikes, shorter cranks is the only solution. Plus that's why bikes have gears. You'll never feel any difference when climbing just because your cranks are shorter. Also, Specialized has the Boomslang pedals that are slim, the best pedals I've ever ridden.
Great
Thanks for making another great video! I have the AF with the former DVO build and my buddy had the Stumpy. After a month of swapping back and forth, he switched to a Ripmo V2. For rocky, sandy SoCal trails, Ripmo works better for us.
Both bikes are awesome but RIPMO is PARTY .The bike in the proper terrain is so FUN !! Kind of a BMX bike 😅 but on the mountains 😂
carbon and alloy stumpy are basically identical, I think the carbon frame may have 1 mm shorter chainstays
Love when Jeff mentions bottom bracket height, I'm with him, higher is better. Low BB's came about when flow trails were invented. For that application, low BB's are good but when you have to pedal through tech, higher BB's are better. Cannondale used to make a model called the "Beast of the East" where it intentionally had a higher BB. Knolly's new frame has a 10mm higher BB in the neutral setting, seems they are listening to customer feedback.
I was a big low BB hype believer for many years. Then after bending so many pedals and crank arms, I tried to get my bikes slightly taller- and they still cornered great. Unfortunately, once something is good in the bike industry, it immediately gets taken to the extreme. If we realize a "higher" BB is good, give it 10 months and there will be a bizillion new models with astronomically high BBs hahaha!
I've been saying this for years, boosted the travel on my Smuggler for exactly these reasons.
@@JeffKendallWeed So true, companies sell whatever the people are buying at the moment, for the good or for the bad. Then we end up getting bikes with unbalanced geometry and tech we don't need.
With the specialized status frame being $400, is it possible for you to do a build and review to help all of us out who have bought one? Thanks, love the videos man!
Hadn’t even considered that, but that’s a good idea! Thanks!!!
Nvm, looks like they are all sold out
@@JeffKendallWeed I just checked on Jenson and they have the 140 in stock. Both s3 and s4.
@@JeffKendallWeed I just looked on jenson’s website, it looks like they got some status 140s in stock today. Both S3 and S4.
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So basically they are both awesome
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How many packs of element will fit In downtube on stumpy evo? Or kid size pack gummy bears
OOOOOoooohhhh now that's a metric I should get behind LOL!
atmospheric river rats 2 👍
Soon!
Why would you test the evo with a weird geometry setup.
How does the 429 compare to these?
It's a steeper head angle bike, so it's nice on flatter trails. I didn't enjoy cornering the 429 as much as either the AF or Stevo. 429 is a great bike, it'd be amazing for desert or east coast chunk. But for PNW riding, I'd to slacken it out some.
Ya. I’m not loving my 429 as much as I thought I would. I got a shorter stem and removed a spacer so I have more weight on the front. It’s better for me but I’m hoping going to 27.5’s will make it feel more maneuverable
Ibis Ripmo AF is better or not
Jeff, what is your height?
I believe he is 5-8 and riding medium.
All the this bike versus that bike without referring to the bike by name actuality got confusing sometimes
When the Ripmo first came out that was the dream, instead I kept riding my Schwinn Rocket 🥹. Moral of the story…don’t wait until you’re a cotton top ride your dream.
wha..wha..wait.....whaaat? Ripmo was a bike when a Schwinn Rocket was the shiz?
No, when Ripmo was born that’s when I should have given schwinn rocket up for adoption
Hard to follow the video when you say "this" , "that" bike. Very useful vid thought!
How tall are you ?
5'8", 174 cm. Logan is about an inch shorter. We fit both of these bikes great.
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It seems the Ripmo, even though it's an AF it performs as good as the carbon Evo or better than the Evo = save your money and get the Ripmo AF...LOL. Or maybe you guys are more used to the Ripmo AF?
My biggest complaint about the ripmo af is how heavy it is. For more undulating terrain or all day rides its pretty energy sapping. Mine weighs 38lbs for aggressive tires and a fox 38. The carbon on the other hand you can shave 4-6 lbs off and you really notice the difference... though they largely handle the same between carbon and alloy
The Evo in this video is aluminum as well...
And the Evo frame is on sale for $1299. Lol
@@casestudymtb Only a 2 lbs difference between the carbon and aluminum frames. You 38lb metal bike would only be 36lb plastic. Still heavy.
@@drewbiermann1009 I heard Jeff say it's Carbon?
I've owned both. Ibis has better suspension layout. Specificalized had better geo.
RatPac haha. Wouldve thought that would be too xc for you guys.
One of the main differences for anyone looking to buy one of these bikes is that the ripmo af is aluminum and the stumpjumper evo is carbon fiber
Uh no. Both of these bikes are aluminum.
@@JeffKendallWeed only the stumpjumper evo alloy is aluminum, the the stumpjumper evo is carbon from the base model to sworks
Funny that the stumpJUMPER was worse at jumping 😂
It was only worse at jumping low speed short jumps, but it's definitely better at jumping stumps. 😅
Ive got a ripley, very fun, wouldnt mind some more suspension
Shout out to Logan! Riding like BA, carrying heavy camera equipment and being an awesome filmer 🚵📹🧑🦱