Jimbo Fisher Is Out At Texas A&M: What Happened and What's Next

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Jimbo Fisher era is over for the Aggies. Let's talk about what happened and what type of coach Texas A&M should be looking for. We're not sold that they should go after Lane Kiffin.
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Komentáře • 189

  • @jake12.48
    @jake12.48 Před 9 měsíci +81

    I miss y'all's late night Saturday streams after the games. Honesty that was the best instant reaction show to listen to in my opinion

    • @terellwhite3361
      @terellwhite3361 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I have been wondering what’s going on. I keep looking for it every Saturday

    • @jake12.48
      @jake12.48 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@terellwhite3361 I mean I'm sure they have jobs and lives outside of YT which is understandable and probably why we've seen less videos. But that stream was their best content honestly

    • @umooner4505
      @umooner4505 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I agree. I don’t think they have to do it Saturday night. A Sunday recap would be great too.

    • @jake12.48
      @jake12.48 Před 9 měsíci

      @@umooner4505 true

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +17

      There's two reasons why we've dropped them. The first is obvious - it's a huge time commitment. Not only does it mean we have to effectively work from 10PM to midnight, it also means we have to be up to speed on every game all day on Saturday. It nearly totally burned us out trying to do that. From a balance perspective, we need to be able to space things out and catch up as needed on Sunday. The second issue, in total honesty, is that they weren't actually that popular. The people that watched like you guys seemed to absolutely love them. But it was only a few thousand people ever. It gets hard to justify the pain point when we do 4x the traffic on a Monday recap video, given the lift was almost as much as everything we do on Sunday combined. We may do another at a good time (e.g., maybe on conf champ night) but it needs to be the right time.

  • @greenearth975
    @greenearth975 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Elko seems like like the perfect candidate from really any angle. He has experience getting the most out of Duke, he has connections to university already, and he doesn't have too much keeping him from going like Dan Lanning. They could even announce the move in time to salvage the recruiting class and keep as much of the band together as possible. If they don't go with him I would be genuinely shocked.

    • @andrewmueller9986
      @andrewmueller9986 Před 9 měsíci

      I'd be shocked. Not splashy enough for the big egos

    • @WhatRBThinks
      @WhatRBThinks Před 9 měsíci +2

      BINGO!! Elko IS the guy they need. While I'm NOT AT ALL a fan of slick, wormy Ross Bjork, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't already have Elko in his pocket when he made the move to get rid of Jimbo...WHO HE DID THE STUPID EXPENSIVE DEAL WITH to start this mess. He'd need a "rock solid plan" when he went to off Jimbo with the board. Still can't believe that they didn't shit can him as well, but it is what it is... Elko is the guy. If they hire Kiffen, I'll stop following them even though both of my boys are Aggies.

    • @philliplenz2089
      @philliplenz2089 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@andrewmueller9986 you must not know how much the Aggie fan base loved Elko and was pretty pissed wnen he left. They should bent given him the HC in waiting clause and let jimbo work himself out the door. But with Elko running the defense I'm not so sure they go 6-4 this year. Durkin couldn't tie Elkos shoes when it comes to defensive schemes and adjustments.

  • @bricetriplett759
    @bricetriplett759 Před 9 měsíci +9

    as a UTSA student and a long time A&M fan, I'm both excited and scared about this. I want A&M to get the best guy possible, but I'm terrified that that might be Traylor

  • @Kiyoti
    @Kiyoti Před 9 měsíci +4

    ...a good quote I heard in discussions about the Aggie thing.
    "What needs to be done eventually needs to be done immediately"

  • @jonwalter6317
    @jonwalter6317 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Your point about Saban being willing to change is so spot on. As an Ohio State fan, the SEC in general is the enemy, and Alabama with its unprecedented success was enemy #1. I was constantly trying to avoid giving Saban all the credit he was due, but when he pulled the trigger and replaced Hurts with Tua in the national championship game, he showed me what was obvious to many - he's willing to do (and able to identify) what it takes to improve his team, regardless of what has transpired up to that point. From then on I freely acknowledged Saban is the GOAT. I think Bama is now the team to beat this season, and if he wins again, he's going to retire. There's nothing else to prove or achieve. I've gone from hating him (mainly out of jealousy) to having nothing but respect for the man. I'd buy him a beer any day.

    • @stickswithme
      @stickswithme Před 9 měsíci

      Alabama had unprecedented success? You must be pretty disconnected from football

    • @TenGreenRangers
      @TenGreenRangers Před 9 měsíci

      The problem was not Hurts... it was Saban.. who tried to use Hurts as the fall guy. Hurts went to OU in the transfer portal and expoded there... Showing it was the poor coaching at Alabama that held him back. Look at the stats .. it's all right there.

    • @rogerwest905
      @rogerwest905 Před 9 měsíci +3

      You are correct. Regardless of what people say or think, Hurts was an average passer and not great (at that time). I watched a documentary where Saban talks about that decision. He stated that he knew there would be a time needed a pure passer and that they routinely got Tua snaps throughout the season so that he would have that option. The opportunity arose and Saban put Tua in and the rest is history. Some people like to make it out that Tua was given the job, and Hurts left and immediately became a star. They forget that Hurts played back up to Tua the entire next season and developed his passing game while doing so. He filled in for Tua and won Alabama the game. It was clear that Tua had improved as a passer before he ever transferred. Having said that, he did continue to improve after he left and appears to be improving to this very day.

    • @jonwalter6317
      @jonwalter6317 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@stickswithme Name another coach/team in the modern era (BCS/CFP) that comes close, please.

    • @draycon530
      @draycon530 Před 9 měsíci +1

      And it's honestly the best aspect of coaching that Kirby took from Saban (along with the relentless recruiting). Kirby made it to the brink of a National Championship playing the brand of football he wanted (control with offense, suffocate on defense) and it would have been very easy to say "We got so close so that way clearly CAN work." But then he went up against Joe Burrow's LSU and decided that the way he did offense was not going to get it done, so he made a concerted effort to change. The sport is constantly changing and evolving, and anyone who thinks "their" way is always going to work is going to get left behind.

  • @colepriceguitar1153
    @colepriceguitar1153 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Until kiffin gets 5 stars we can’t really say how much he is capable of

    • @triple3miller
      @triple3miller Před 9 měsíci

      We know that Kiffin isn't capable of recruiting 5* players.

    • @colepriceguitar1153
      @colepriceguitar1153 Před 9 měsíci

      @@triple3miller how do we know that?

    • @triple3miller
      @triple3miller Před 9 měsíci

      @@colepriceguitar1153 By looking at his recruiting classes.

  • @nickma71
    @nickma71 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Who else is in the wrong business. I need to be fired and paid $70 mil.

    • @TerryGlass274
      @TerryGlass274 Před 9 měsíci

      My next job I'm going in with the Jimbo approach. Get a great job somehow, absolutely stink at it, then have that company pay me more to never work again than they ever paid me to work. Ill let yall know how that goes.

  • @PurpleHazeVanNederlands
    @PurpleHazeVanNederlands Před 9 měsíci +7

    I don't think Kiffin will go to ATM but I don't think it's fair to say he has peaked. Sark did worse than him at USC even though Kiffin had extreme sanctions, and Sark couldn't get past 8 wins at Washington. Sark now has a machine at Texas with the right resources. Assuming Kiffin finishes with 10 wins this year he will have two 10 win seasons in 4 years while Ole Miss had 3 10 win seasons from 1962-2020. Also outside of Bama/UGA no one has more wins since 2020 than Kiffin in the SEC

  • @stephenlight647
    @stephenlight647 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Always in favor of more Nerd content! As a complete outsider to A&M the whole affair is totally perplexing. Except, as in all things, you have to grab the opportunities when they occur. Sometimes, they don’t come around again!

  • @davidcopeland6809
    @davidcopeland6809 Před 9 měsíci +1

    As an A&M fan, I agree with your assessment regarding Fisher’s adaptability. This year’s offense looked more like Fisher’s from recent years than Patrino’s (at least what I remember from his Arky days).

  • @milesbailey3661
    @milesbailey3661 Před 9 měsíci +10

    People forget that Kevin Sumlin was getting top five recruiting classes while at A&M. They’ve never had a talent problem they just need an elite coach to put it all together.

    • @timpetta2974
      @timpetta2974 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Other programs also have talent. Did I miss how many championships the aggies have won in football?

  • @Kasu-AL
    @Kasu-AL Před 9 měsíci +5

    Can you guys do the same analysis on USC. That would be great. You have a blue blood program with a high profile coach that’s struggling

    • @stickswithme
      @stickswithme Před 9 měsíci +1

      After Lincoln Riley goes to the NFL, then we can talk about USC coaching search

  • @spacejesus_4979
    @spacejesus_4979 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Speaking as an Aggie, I can’t stand the narrative that since A&M has never had consistent success means they won’t ever have success. Pate always talks about how we have all the ingredients necessary, but haven’t been able to put it all together. I personally don’t think A&M is gonna try to make a splash hire otherwise it could turn into another jimbo situation.
    Top choice would be Elko and try to get really good position coaches/recruiters. The players all spoke highly of Elko and I think he’d be able to turn it around

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      It’s a lot more difficult. If Clemson did it, A&M can, but it takes more than hiring a guy who had a fluke national championship with the right QB somewhere else. You’re not hiring coach O now. You shouldn’t have hired Jimbo then. Also would not have hired Gene Chizik or Larry Coker.

    • @spacejesus_4979
      @spacejesus_4979 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@theknightswhosay I don’t know how you can say Jimbo was objectively a bad coach in 2018? Also nobody is talking about hiring coach O or Coker

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@spacejesus_4979 He was a bad hire. He had the right QB at the right time and then was going downhill just like Chizik and O did when they lost said QB. Maybe not as quickly, but it was happening. He wasn’t going to transform the program to the extent of Saban or Dabo.
      I know no one wants to hire the other guys at a major program. That’s the point.

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +4

      It's the same argument people used against Georgia for decades, which was right until it REALLY wasn't.

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      @@CollegeFootballNerds They have to make a good hire like Georgia did though.

  • @RanchoTexano
    @RanchoTexano Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ouch - tough love and sadly true. Onward and upward. Gig’em Nerds!

  • @Elliott_Mullins
    @Elliott_Mullins Před 9 měsíci +3

    No way they really put “enjoying the grind” for Meyer with that photo 😭😭

  • @Solitude47152
    @Solitude47152 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bobby Petrino has significant winning Head Coach experience

  • @WhatRBThinks
    @WhatRBThinks Před 9 měsíci

    Olin from TexAgs had an interview with 360 Sports right after the firing. He made a GREAT, and appropriate comment about Jimbo hiring Patrino to run the offense; "if you hire Bobby Flay to cook you dinner, but then give him the recipe and the ingredients, and tell him not to change ANYTHING, well, you're just kinda get the dinner that you've always gotten"....

  • @Crimedawg27
    @Crimedawg27 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Kalen Deboer is the guy to me. He's won immediately everywhere he has coached. 67-3 at sioux falls. Took Indiana as the OC to second in the big 10 in offense. Is 16-2 at Washington and 100-11 as a head coach. But to me if you listen to him speak and listen to his players talk about their mindset... it's so eerily close to Kirby and Georgia. He's taken a poor talent wise team (their blue chip ratio isn't great) and their defense is terrible, but he maximizes what they do elite. If he ever got a hold of the talent at a top 5 program it would be scary.

  • @jamestwitty2974
    @jamestwitty2974 Před 9 měsíci

    Love your take on cfb in general but watch every game matchup you put out cannot wait for Bama vs Georgia

  • @tracedykes4411
    @tracedykes4411 Před 9 měsíci

    Enjoying the grind 💀💀💀

  • @timmccrory7630
    @timmccrory7630 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thank you for saying that about Bill O’Brien. Signed Texan fan. Not great . Gigg’em

  • @4thandGoalBusby
    @4thandGoalBusby Před 9 měsíci

    My list would be similar to y'alls, Mike Elko, Chris Klieman, but I'd also give some consideration to Kalen DeBoer. I think he's done kind of a Lance Leipold-esque work with Washington, which is a higher-level program than Kansas. But I'd still put Elko and Klieman ahead of DeBoer on my list personally.

  • @ianbowen5872
    @ianbowen5872 Před 9 měsíci

    Urban always on that grind, focusing on family!

  • @aggiefrank87
    @aggiefrank87 Před 9 měsíci +2

    While I agree with much of this, I think there is a lot of reason to go get the best OC/DC available as well. Guys like Grubb or Schumann because it maximizes the spend meaning you get them cheaper but have a motivating carrot of much more money if you win. To get Klieman or Elko you will have to spend to the point they might hit the easy street button. If I'm going the HC route, I'd also look at John Smith at OSU.

    • @ShootinStarskies
      @ShootinStarskies Před 9 měsíci

      Schumann wouldn’t leave for another DC role IMO, it’s lateral and wouldn’t gain him anything. Maybe for head coach though.

    • @aggiefrank87
      @aggiefrank87 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@ShootinStarskies A&M would hire Schumann or Grubb to be HC.

  • @leea8451
    @leea8451 Před 9 měsíci

    I would love to see them hire Kiffen just for the entertainment value he would bring😂.

  • @jbbrown909
    @jbbrown909 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I know I'll get push back but I think Mike Locksley from Maryland could be really good given better resources.

  • @Newcleus_Lab
    @Newcleus_Lab Před 9 měsíci +2

    How about Glenn Schumann? I have heard his name thrown around a bit for the job

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +2

      He's been part of a lot of good programs. But does A&M want someone learning to HC on the job?

  • @KATRTR
    @KATRTR Před 9 měsíci +1

    Such a great point about Jimbo's lack of humility and stubborn refusal to change his offense. My lasting memory of Jimbo is the look of frustration on his face when QB'S failed to execute his scheme. That same lack of humility and jealousy drove him to make nasty accusations towards Coach Saban who literally put him on the map of his coaching career. It is so tragic when someone lacks the capability to be self critical. In the world of sports like life adaptation & evolution are the keys to survival. That is why Dabo Sweeney could never follow Nick Saban as Coach of Alabama or even follow him--they are intellectually so dissimilar--Saban has the capacity and intellectual curiosity to evolve and change the chess pieces of his scheme.

  • @joethumm8186
    @joethumm8186 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I think it's hilarious and ironic that Jimbo's biggest win of his career actually came against Texas A&M....Jimbo walks into the sunset with ALL of A&M's money !!!

  • @alexmanning8710
    @alexmanning8710 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Kiffin is 57-28 in the modern Kiffin era. Not bad for a clown.

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      Just over 66% isn’t national championship level though.

    • @alexmanning8710
      @alexmanning8710 Před 9 měsíci

      A Saban win percentage or a Smart percentage requires more money than was paid to Jimbo. 66% win percentage is more than likely the market for the next coach at A&M unless they have another 100 million to blow. That 66% was done on a shoe string compared to what is available at A&M. Just my thought. @@theknightswhosay

  • @Michigan_Spyglasses
    @Michigan_Spyglasses Před 9 měsíci

    Love what y'all do. Gave a thumbs up. Commented on the video. Not watching this one.
    After Colorado first half the season and Michigan's bs basically the whole season, I'm tired of CW drama. I just want football back.

  • @ericdulyon4601
    @ericdulyon4601 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent fellaa

  • @benjaminotwell3594
    @benjaminotwell3594 Před 9 měsíci

    As a fan, it really felt like TAMU did what they were supposed to do in order to launch themselves into contender status by hiring Jimbo. Super disappointed that it turned into a dud. Hopefully whoever comes in can do something special with that #1 recruiting class, if the majority of them stay.

  • @willnelson1931
    @willnelson1931 Před 9 měsíci

    I have a possible controversial thought/suggestion. How about going full Tennesse? Hire a new AD. My choice would be Liberty AD Ian McCaw.

  • @johndodd6843
    @johndodd6843 Před 9 měsíci

    The deal A&M gave Fisher was insane at the time but then they double down on it and extended him.

  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe Před 9 měsíci +1

    Jimbo just never adapted to the modern world of sign-stealing and in-person scouting?!? 🤣

  • @billybubba8344
    @billybubba8344 Před 9 měsíci

    Good stuff

  • @RoddyShaffer
    @RoddyShaffer Před 9 měsíci +1

    Kiffin at A&M would scare the rest of the SEC .... u can't hire someone who's always ran a big program or has that experience.... thats what Jimbo was too... Saban came out of Toledo.... those hiring only have to be a good judge of talent similar to recruiting players... they can come from anywhere

  • @markoverby8186
    @markoverby8186 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If Kefin had aggie talent he would have won more than any other coach that's been there. He has beat you'll the past 3 years

  • @joelsanders429
    @joelsanders429 Před 9 měsíci

    PLEASE do a hypothetical on Mizzou and Penn State!!!!!

  • @autoscopy
    @autoscopy Před 9 měsíci +2

    Washington is a -1 underdog at Oregon State. Y'all covering the game?

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They usually find a way to not cover PAC-12 games but they might have no choice this week.

    • @autoscopy
      @autoscopy Před 9 měsíci

      @@MH-0101 exactly my thoughts.

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@autoscopy think you’re out of luck bro. They would’ve dropped it today. Think they are just gonna do UGA vs Tenn.

  • @chriswaller6859
    @chriswaller6859 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I can't believe people are still trying to put Urban Meyer in any head coaching position after his showing with Jacksonville.
    He is not only washed up, but seems to have a possible medical issue going on. Mark Richt seems more coherent than Meyer.
    Let the man rest and give the tough jobs to people who can handle it now, not in the past.

    • @chriswaller6859
      @chriswaller6859 Před 9 měsíci

      And to add, I love Mark Richt, and wish him the best, but he has been honest with his issues, and is still the same guy he was, just impacted by a medical issue.
      Meyer seems to be lost in every situation he has been over the last 5 to 10 years.

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      He didn’t lose his ability to coach because his attempt to operate in the NFL was a disaster. Not sure how much recruits would factor that in though.

  • @LA_FOCUS
    @LA_FOCUS Před 9 měsíci +2

    Why do guys like this love to bring Brian Kelly's name up when talking about Jimbo's failures. BK did more in his first year at LSU and in the SEC than Jimbo ever did at A&M. Has it been perfect. No. But to act like the LSU program is in the same position as A&M right now is crazy. That's just showing everyone that you have a negative opinion towards Kelly as a coach that is not based on reality.

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 Před 9 měsíci

    It is Surprising they didn't wait till after end of the Season to take off another year off the Buy Out.

    • @aggiefrank87
      @aggiefrank87 Před 9 měsíci +1

      the timing didn't affect the buyout at all. He is owed the full contract regardless of timing of his termination.

  • @corbinvoges7203
    @corbinvoges7203 Před 9 měsíci

    Glenn Schumann
    Mike Elko
    Dan Lanning
    My top 3 candidates

    • @ozylil
      @ozylil Před 9 měsíci

      No to Elko.........UNPROVEN !

  • @Melquiades_
    @Melquiades_ Před 9 měsíci

    Important to remember the SEC West will not exist going forward, I believe this makes TAMU more attractive

  • @MH-0101
    @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci

    Best teams ranking. These are the 9 best teams in the country (I don't care about #10 or worse) and rankings of the teams will now only change due to injury:
    1. Michigan - Elite offensive line, elite RBs, elite QB, decent WR. Elite defense. This team has 7 nfl players on the offensive line and 8 on the defensive line. Maybe the deepest team on either line of scrimmage that I have ever seen. I am having to rethink Michigan. As I feared, the Penn State game exposed them as cheaters. Based on what I saw, I would say that the sign stealing gave them a 7-10 point advantage in every game. In the Penn State game, they were no longer effective at picking up pressure and defensively they no longer knew how to fit the appropriate run gaps.
    2. Texas - They get back Ewers and lose Brooks. This team cannot catch a break. There is also the absurdly false narrative that Alabama has improved and is now better than Texas. Better at what exactly? QB - Texas, RB - push, OL - Texas by a mile, WR/TE - Texas by a mile, DL - Texas by a mile, LB/Secondary - ok, cool the one advantage Alabama has. Somehow you think that first game was a fluke. Somehow you think Alabama is now better than Texas. You make this mistake every year. You are wrong. Remember when you thought Oregon had improved last year? What a joke.
    3. FSU - if this team win out with no injuries, they will play for and maybe even win the national championship
    4. Georgia - Close to elite defense. Efficient offense. Offense can be shutdown. Offense has limited explosiveness and a good not great run game. Defense cannot generate pressure needed to effect high level offenses. Brock Bowers is back which means I can no longer guarantee a loss to Alabama
    5. Ohio State - Maybe the best defense in the country. Offensive line looks like its coming together. McCord is a liability to this team. Not naming Devin Brown the starter has cost this team a national championship.
    6. Washington - Elite offense. Best receivers and passing game in the country. Outside of two elite defensive ends, one good linebacker and one good corner, this defense has serious issues and will hold them back from winning a national championship. For everyone thinking that Oregon will win the rematch, pray to God that Jalen McMillan and those other WR are not healthy because Washington will win by 10+ if they have their full WR corps healthy. Sure enough, Washington's receivers remain injured.
    7. Alabama - Elite defense. Effective offense but issues at QB. The Nerds were right and I was wrong. This defense is on a Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State level. Slightly better than Duke and Notre Dame's defenses.
    8. Penn State - Maybe the best defense in the country. Elite QB, good WR, best RBs in the country. Solid Offensive line. Terrible coaches.
    9. Notre Dame - Solid team. NFL players at all levels. Great offensive line and run game. Sam Hartman rarely makes mistakes.
    10. Oregon or Whatever.

  • @ace-man5863
    @ace-man5863 Před 9 měsíci

    Pre watching comment:
    Aggie here. Been waiting for this ever since the news came out.
    I'm not opposed to the fire, especially after this seasons blunders. We're up against Bama and Tennessee at half and lose cuz we get out coached. The Ole Miss loss that came down to a last second FG really cemented it. I'm still glad we had Jimbo and I'm not even upset about his contract.
    He went 9-4 in year 1 including a 7 OT win over LSU, a team A&M had never beaten in the SEC. In year 2 we went 8-5 but that was also against the hardest schedule in FBS history (played 3 #1 ranked teams). And then in year 3 we lost to the eventual national champions on the road then out, finishing 4th in the nation. Who wouldn't extend him, especially if LSU is trying to steal him away?
    However, ever since signing that extension, A&M has been nothing but mediocre.

  • @clevername00
    @clevername00 Před 9 měsíci

    Hearing Glenn Schumann rumors too 👀

  • @serenoart
    @serenoart Před 9 měsíci

    Why not Kyle Whittingham? I think he annually gets more out of his program and then perhaps any coach in America

  • @billybubba8344
    @billybubba8344 Před 9 měsíci

    Saban brought in Lane when no one else would touch him.

  • @jameskelley8002
    @jameskelley8002 Před 9 měsíci

    I know Dan Lanning is getting put out there a lot but I just don’t really see it I think Oregon would match whatever A&M would be willing to offer and his contract buyout alone is another 20 million on top of whatever his salary is, I would be looking at Klienmen

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 Před 9 měsíci

      Idk. Oregon is pretty wealthy though, they even got those sweet nike contracts with their unis. It probably doesn't match A&Ms as you said, but it doesn't need to exactly. It only needs to be high enough where added in with the extra risk of going to A&M wouldn't be worth it for that extra little bit. Especially since I'm not sure A&M is willing to go out with the same buyout as they did with Jimbo again.

  • @metalmann7
    @metalmann7 Před 9 měsíci

    What if Elko came in, but kept Patrino as OC?

  • @johnk.mclendon4319
    @johnk.mclendon4319 Před 9 měsíci

    I don’t know much about Jedd Fisch and if he has enough experience or the right kind of experience, but that Arizona team is Well coached. Mid talent, mid experience, and yet they play at a high level ever game. Why is he not high on the list?

  • @ace-man5863
    @ace-man5863 Před 9 měsíci

    Post watching comment:
    All good takes, dont disagree with anything. Josh pointed out in Jimbo's 1 good season (2020), we only played 2 ranked teams, one of them being a 52-24 blowout in Tuscaloosa. My context for that is, Ohio State, the national championship runner up, lost to Bama, 52-24 as well, on a neutral field. The reality is no one was gonna beat 2020 Bama. And then our win over Florida is a good win, longhorns love to say they were "a 4 loss Florida" but thats becasuse they were a fumble against us and a thrown shoe away from finishing the regular season 10-0. All that is beside the point though.
    In pretty much every Aggie sphere im in, all see Dan Lanning as the dream hire, but most dont think we can lure him away from Oregon. Sadly, their Nike money is a worthy competitor to our oil money. Other names people would want: Deboar, Elko, Trailor, Norvell, Schumann (UGA DC)
    Names every Aggie i know doesnt want: Lane Kiffin, Urban Meyer, Deion

  • @joelooney569
    @joelooney569 Před 9 měsíci

    Kinda feel A&M has already made a deal with someone. Lincoln Riley?

  • @cixzejy
    @cixzejy Před 9 měsíci +1

    I knew that contract would come back to bite them

  • @Tijuanabill
    @Tijuanabill Před 9 měsíci

    People say OU admins are fools, for never hiring head football coaches with experience. Stories like this are why. Nobody is hiring away Nick Saban or Kirby Smart. No amount of money, will make that happen. And when you TRY to get a guy like that, it's going to cost you a fortune, and you are going to have to accept a not quite the same as Saban hire. How much it's not quite the same, will vary. But this mentality is a recipe for over paying when you hire them, and over paying when you fire them.

  • @glockman9c
    @glockman9c Před 9 měsíci

    Maybe Kiffin is so aggressive because he is always playing against better players...
    I hope Kiffin gets Bama after Saban.
    Can't judge Kiffin too harshly until he gets an even playing field.

  • @zugetsui9971
    @zugetsui9971 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I think lane can win a natty a a&m

    • @joelsanders429
      @joelsanders429 Před 9 měsíci

      At least 11-1. With 5-stars like A&M, Lane could make a run with that.

    • @ozylil
      @ozylil Před 9 měsíci

      At this poing Id actually accept an ahole like Kiffin

    • @andrewmueller9986
      @andrewmueller9986 Před 9 měsíci

      Kiffin is wildly overrated. He won't win a natty anywhere ever

  • @MAC88-88
    @MAC88-88 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Yes, leave the conference. Even leave the NCAA if we can and refuse to accept any punishment. College football needs us and not the other way around. We can and will remain defiante and defy the rules. We are Michigan. We make the Rules. We are not going to deny cheating. No appologies.
    Coach Harbaugh is guy I want my son to play for when he goes to College. I want my son to go to the NFL and I know for a fact that Michigan will have an advantage for at least one or two more years based on their research, and the knowledge of other teams. Michigan can make players look better and that's what counts for the scouts.
    There is no other Man (Michigan Man or otherwise) that can teach the lessons Coach Harbaugh teaches and the values he exhibits. Only Michigan is going to do anything to Win. Winners get seen by the NFL scouts. Loser's don't and remain losers. Everyone says study and work hard to get ahead in life. In real life any advantage can advance you and make you look better, even if you tell half-truths you are not lying, it is just the Grey Area.
    I worry about going forward is if other parent's will want their kids to go to Michigan, but then again if we get kids that fit the Harbaugh system we can crush everyone. Harbaugh isn't gonna recuite any choir boys. Now that Michigan is in the spotlight, even kids who would normally miss out on the NFL will get the nod simply because of Harbaugh.
    Thank you Coach Harbaugh. All Michigan Men can be proud of your fine example. Hail to the Victors.

  • @dermadawg
    @dermadawg Před 9 měsíci

    Wait, you compare Elmo with Pittman and you still are interested in hiring him, you do realize that Pittman is finished at Arkansas😳

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      No that was a specific anecdote about being able to recruit, at least short term, as a coach with no recruiting juice. Arkansas failures are largely because of losing coordinators, replacing them with bad ones, and having some internal strife.

  • @EmergencyTop5
    @EmergencyTop5 Před 9 měsíci

    Why not Hugh Freeze? He is cool and calm under pressure lol

    • @EmergencyTop5
      @EmergencyTop5 Před 9 měsíci

      But seriously, what about Dan Mullen? His big issue is recruiting which is solved with NIL money. Offensively a mastermind. Love the video guys, and I miss your instant Saturday reaction videos.

  • @evanpoon7603
    @evanpoon7603 Před 9 měsíci +1

    We getting a uga vs Tennessee preview and prediction this week?

    • @Senio25
      @Senio25 Před 9 měsíci

      Lol you said F all of this! Where's the preview 😂😂

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      Given Tennessee's loss we ended up passing on it. We may not do any previews this week given the slate.

    • @evanpoon7603
      @evanpoon7603 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Senio25 Yup. Jimbos a clown and needed to go, what else is new?😂

  • @nirmalp89
    @nirmalp89 Před 9 měsíci

    You're talking about the program and cfb world as if the current state of the world is going to continue on in perpetuity. It's OVER. There's no more 4 team playoff. And there's no more SEC West. We're not even playing Bama or Georgia annually anymore. We are going to be happy merely GOING to the playoff. We're asking for 10-2 every other year. If that seems impossible, then why even have a program that we invest in?

  • @captnjim44smith74
    @captnjim44smith74 Před 9 měsíci

    Lane is at the right place, doesn’t fit at TA&M, but Lane is building the roster, and don’t put money on Ole Miss not winning a Natie. Four National Champions lost one game according to ESPN, and that was Ole Miss. ‘77, ‘08, ‘14, ‘15.

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci +1

      It’s weird that these teams expect to go from never having made an SEC championship to winning a national championship.

    • @captnjim44smith74
      @captnjim44smith74 Před 9 měsíci

      It’s been years ago, so if you don’t know, Ole Miss has six SEC titles.

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      @@captnjim44smith74 Princeton, Yale, and Rutgers have a bunch of national championships. What’s your point?

    • @captnjim44smith74
      @captnjim44smith74 Před 9 měsíci

      @@theknightswhosay it’s clear you just like arguing using strange logic

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      @@captnjim44smith74 it’s not strange logic to go for making the SEC championship game once in 30 years before counting on a national championship under the current coach. Walk before you run is a basic concept.

  • @happynotredamefan3736
    @happynotredamefan3736 Před 9 měsíci

    College football nerds am I right to be concerned, I to feel like our coach is just a cheaper Jimbo Fisher. On the plus if he just like Jimbo at least we will only have one loss next year

  • @triple3miller
    @triple3miller Před 9 měsíci

    The negative Fisher narrative saying that he didn't want to win a championship at A&M and do anything possible to achieve that is pure stupidity.

  • @mcavanprice5966
    @mcavanprice5966 Před 9 měsíci

    Any person that says A&M shouldn’t expect a national championship is a loser and doesn’t understand the concept of goals. Why wouldn’t you or any organization strive for the absolute best? Especially when the people supporting the organization are willing to do whatever and provide whatever it takes to achieve it. People may not see A&M as a national power because it hasn’t been proven but if you don’t see the potential then your eyes just aren’t open. I loved your video and all your points. Agreed with it all. I want Lanning, Elko, and Klieman in that order. Gig Em Forever

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci

      How does it feel that the only time you won more than 8 games was in a season that doesn’t even count?

    • @mcavanprice5966
      @mcavanprice5966 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MH-0101 feels like we should fire our coach and strive to do better.

    • @mcavanprice5966
      @mcavanprice5966 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MH-0101 also that’s just factually untrue

    • @theknightswhosay
      @theknightswhosay Před 9 měsíci

      Make an SEC Championship game first. It’s possible but unlikely to go from no SEC championship games to making the game, winning the game, and winning two playoff games for the first time all in the same year.

    • @mcavanprice5966
      @mcavanprice5966 Před 9 měsíci

      @@theknightswhosay I’m just saying if the national championship isn’t the end goal then what’re we doing? Just playing to play?

  • @jamestwitty2974
    @jamestwitty2974 Před 9 měsíci

    Bama vs Gawga oh my😮

  • @willkendrick670
    @willkendrick670 Před 9 měsíci

    Aggies in general do not like Lane Kiffin. He is not a realistic candidate and people that say he is, either don’t know, or are just trying to get clicks.

  • @ozylil
    @ozylil Před 9 měsíci

    Buy Urban Mayer or Jeff Traylor

  • @Da-Boo33
    @Da-Boo33 Před 9 měsíci

    Jimbo better go to Florida....and I'm Rolltide for life

    • @Tijuanabill
      @Tijuanabill Před 9 měsíci +1

      He is going to Alabama...most likely. He will collect that huge buyout, and sit there in Tuscaloosa making his full salary, every year until the contract is up, working at Saint Nick's School for Wayward Coaches.

    • @Da-Boo33
      @Da-Boo33 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Tijuanabill I'm all for it Rolltide

  • @MapleSyrupLuvr
    @MapleSyrupLuvr Před 9 měsíci

    For everyone who begged for the 12 team CFP. You need to understand that if we had that format this year, every team from UGA to Oregon St would already be locked in. No drama, no controversy, no nailbiting high-stakes game. The regular season is about to be devalued. Thanks a lot

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      We actually have an entire episode on that coming later this week.

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci

      Agreed, but the rankings will change. The current rankings basically are reflective of the committee looking to avoid conflict. They are trying to dodge bullets and not rank objectively. In a 12 team playoff, a team like Oregon state would probably be well outside the top 15 right now. I can pretty much guarantee you that both Tulane and Liberty would be ranked as top 15 teams in a 12 team format.

  • @nikitanosikovg2703
    @nikitanosikovg2703 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Deion is not a good coach (atleast as of right now).

  • @charlesjohnson536
    @charlesjohnson536 Před 9 měsíci

    SMASH THE 👍 BUTTON CFB 🏈 NERDS ..

  • @timmccrory7630
    @timmccrory7630 Před 9 měsíci

    It should be Urban Meyer.

  • @drk_hrs_of23
    @drk_hrs_of23 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Lame kiffin has talked too much crap about our school and our program. We do not want him here.

  • @byronkeith8490
    @byronkeith8490 Před 9 měsíci

    Dabo Swinney

  • @franquil85conn
    @franquil85conn Před 9 měsíci

    That florida team in 2020 was great, not on Defense, what are you talking about?

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci

      No 2020 team was great.

  • @pestyoverlord
    @pestyoverlord Před 9 měsíci +1

    They moved the goal post. They're not worried about a natty. It's all about not getting smoked by Texas. Sark won too mant games so Jimbo had to leave early. They either hire a specialist in beating Texas: dykes, kleinman, Patterson. Or they go big and poach someone that can't recruit in state well enough to siphon from UT. Basically they're doomed unless they get traylor, kirby or saban imo.

    • @tamuman93
      @tamuman93 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Lol. This is exactly why the wrong strategy. Texas is dust on our boots now. The Natty will take care of any concerns about them.
      No offense meant, but Changing our strategy to a myopic “Texas only” strategy is small time thinking.

  • @billybubba8344
    @billybubba8344 Před 9 měsíci

    He did the same thing he did at Florida St. He quit working. Lost his drive. He should have retired

  • @cryptotony5110
    @cryptotony5110 Před 9 měsíci +1

    *Denied Interest
    He didn’t just “deny interest”, he said he wasn’t going anywhere.
    “Everything I want exists right here. I’m not going anywhere. There is zero chance I would be coaching somewhere else.”

    • @stickswithme
      @stickswithme Před 9 měsíci

      Whatcu think deny interest means

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Those statements didn't go public in time for us to include in the recording, fyi.

  • @loanstowalruses
    @loanstowalruses Před 9 měsíci

    Great stuff guys.
    I feel like even this massively undersells the degree to which TAMU has been a clinic in coaching malpractice. TAMU has top 5 talent and are NOT a better team than they have been getting credit for. When a team consistently plays below their talent level that IS who they are. TAMU is not even the team that beats teams 'worse' than them; they have LOST to teams "worse" than them all throughout Jimbo Fisher's tenure. Each season has one of these games where they get absolutely obliterated by a team that shouldn't even be in their tier. The only metric by which they are a better team than their resume is in recruiting ranking.
    Even now, defenders of this team give a bunch of credit to a defense that looked good on paper by fancystats, but the performance totals don't actually bear that out when they play upper50% teams. Miami's win against them? Tied for Bethune for season high of points allowed. Ole Miss ony has that point total behind LSU, who doesn't play defense, and Georgia Tech. Their defensive performances on the scoreboard look like a mid-tier SEC team, and much, much worse against the better FBS offenses.
    Nobody else comes close to accomplishing so little with so much.

  • @scm21st
    @scm21st Před 9 měsíci

    As names continue to fall off the list, is there even a remote possibility that they'd look to Deion? He would definitely be able to bring in top recruiting classes. As a Texas fan, he scares me.

    • @michaelbradley7621
      @michaelbradley7621 Před 9 měsíci +1

      We just had a guy that brought in top recruiting classes.

  • @ChanceGreene836
    @ChanceGreene836 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey buddy thought you said bama couldn't beat lsu and jalen milroe wouldn't be able to hang

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      Umm, Josh picked the game 41-34 Bama, which was probably about the exact final score if Daniels doesn't go down with an injury. So not sure what you're pulling from there.

  • @Deep.Purple
    @Deep.Purple Před 9 měsíci

    not at all surprising. Expected it. Fisher was never a championship coach. Florida State was built by someone else and the coaching staff he had made it happen. He's always been a crap coach. Had nothing to do with him waiting too long blah blah, He's just being who he really is, a crap coach.

  • @marcobarnes4840
    @marcobarnes4840 Před 9 měsíci

    So I guess y’all gonna skip over this past weeks games? The model was wayyy off on the Georgia-Ole miss game

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +3

      The model isn't perfect. But it predicted a tight game vs Auburn, a one score game vs Mizzou, and almost picked the exact score vs Florida. It's out performed any other model available as it relates to UGA this year.

    • @joelsanders429
      @joelsanders429 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@CollegeFootballNerds Agreed! This model has been AMAZING with scores all across the board.

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci +1

      The Ole Miss game honestly reminded me of last year's Tennessee vs LSU game. Ole Miss was out an OT and then lost a 2nd OT in the second series. From that point on their OL just collapsed and it was effectively no contest. Ole Miss went 5 drives in a row going either 3-and-out or an INT in the middle of the game. I'm not saying they would have won (we both picked Georgia), but you have to acknowledge that it was a game that simply went off the rails for Ole Miss and they couldn't recover to make it a game.

  • @olrascal5569
    @olrascal5569 Před 9 měsíci

    I sense a very dark future for this program this was not good decision, imo.

  • @TheMacC117
    @TheMacC117 Před 9 měsíci

    Keep your paws off of Dan Lanning, he's ours when the time comes

  • @coblow1681
    @coblow1681 Před 9 měsíci

    I will laugh if they hire Mullen

  • @brandonleggett6920
    @brandonleggett6920 Před 9 měsíci

    Mark Stoops

  • @j_r_junior
    @j_r_junior Před 9 měsíci

    Mel Tucker to Mississippi State

  • @jaden809
    @jaden809 Před 9 měsíci

    First

  • @frankpropri540
    @frankpropri540 Před 9 měsíci

    The Aggies are the most overrated football program in the history of college football.

  • @childofthanos84
    @childofthanos84 Před 9 měsíci

    Why not James Franklin. He was successful at vandy has done great at Penn State but being in Texas and getting those recruits may put him over the top

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      I think many PSU fans would take exception with "done great at Penn State."

    • @childofthanos84
      @childofthanos84 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@CollegeFootballNerds they’d be stupid then, he’s made Penn State relevant which they weren’t for a minute.

    • @MH-0101
      @MH-0101 Před 9 měsíci

      @@childofthanos84Bro, let me introduce you to college football history 101. Chapter 1: 50 years of Joe Paterno.

  • @metalmann7
    @metalmann7 Před 9 měsíci

    What if Elko came in, but kept Patrino as OC?

    • @CollegeFootballNerds
      @CollegeFootballNerds  Před 9 měsíci

      What if Petrino isn't a good OC anymore?

    • @metalmann7
      @metalmann7 Před 9 měsíci

      @@CollegeFootballNerds What if he is? And if we hire a defensive minded HC, we gotta make sure we havea good OC. A few months ago, he was our choice!