We poured our hearts and souls into the 3rd Wave and you've done a fantastic job of showing its depth, breadth, and history here, Devin. Great playing, too. We can't thank you enough.
@@BigHairyCrank Thanks, Chris. We really appreciate your kind words. We're just getting started. Your support means everything to us. We have big plans.
Near $5000. Very lovely. I’d need to first win the Lottery. Happy for you that you have one. From days of old, I know the feeling of receiving what will be a cherished synth. I hope you do more episodes in the Wave. Would be nice merely to HEAR IT.
Thanks so much! I totally get its pricy, but like you said its a future classic. Did you hear my two other videos on the 3rd Wave? I did a custom patches playing only demo, and a Virtual Analog feature on it. Check em out!
Excellent video! Thanks, Miles Away for really showing off some of what it is capable of. And of course, there is still a lot more beyond this. I love the patches near the beginning when you show us some of your creations. They are just smokin'!
I listen to modern music as most people do, but my real passion is that 80's sound. So whilst it's nice to be able to create modern stuff, I love this synth for how it plays that 'classic' (PPG Wave) sound.
Thanks for making the video, it's the best I've watched. I've had a 3rd Wave for a few weeks and I'm still getting to grips with it and your video has helped immensely.
Fantastic Demo Miles ! This sounds so amazing. We all truly value all your Synthesizer knowledge! I hope all is well in Your world 🌎. Mark Bensette Aux Bois 🇨🇦.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Absolutely my pleasure! I learn something new on each of your Videos 📹. Very helpful ! My curse is that I hear a pretty much finished song when I find a cool patch..therfore I do that instead of really learning what all these boards can do.....lol
Wow. I didn’t give this synth much consideration or watched videos on it until now… you made it sound amazing. Or it just sounds amazing. I need to dive into my wavetable synths more, they have so much potential.
The way the display changes when you turn a knob is so refreshing. I don't know how to use a synth but this makes it look like a great beginner synth to teach a person the ropes.
Hey man, I know a lot of people have said this already, but you are insanely talented! I'm so glad I found out about your works through "The Biggest Menace" series. I've probably listened to that intro theme about 10 times now lol. I don't know anything about synths or other electronic gear, but best believe I'll be sticking around.
In answer to the question .... "YES!!!". I tried to pick one up at the initial delivery price of $3995 but I never was able to do so. Last Thursday, I ordered one from Sweetwater Sound (apparently the privileged "distributor") for $4995. That is the most I've ever spent on one synthesizer. My wife asked me, why?"", and the first thing that came to my mind in answer to her was "This is the first time since the Kurzweil K2000 that a synth has ever spoken to me". I had a PPG Wave 2.2 in by studio, that was purchased by a guy who was working with me at the time. It remained there for well over a year, and I played with it quite a bit. When the other guy finished grad school and move across the country he took the PPG with him. That was over 25 years ago. Often, I would find myself in a creative process where I wished that I had access to the PPG again. Originally, when I heard some of the first demos of the 3rd Wave, I was impressed at how much more it sounded like a PPG 2.2 than does the Waldorf "M", or even the Waldorf Quantum (I tried the "M' when It became available and I now have a Quantum as well as an Iridium Keyboard in my studio. Neither can produce sounds that are remotely close to a PPG Wave. Last week, after I heard about Waldorf's impending release of the Quantum 2, I needed to decide whether I would buy a 3rd Wave or a Quantum 2. Even at that time, I was pretty convinced I'd get the 3rd Wave. Then I got to hear Dan Fischer's (Sweetwater) 40-minute improvisation on the 3rd Wave. About ten minutes into the video realizes that I really needed this synth.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I owned a PPG 2.2 and it was constantly in Middletown NY being repaired. The voice cards were susceptible to just about everything. I think it was allergic to my studio. It was literally out of the studio being repaired more than it was in the studio. I can't imagine what Geddy Lee's tech went through. Maybe they were lucky and I got the lemon? Polyphony was horrible.
Words can not describe how much I love this Synth. But at 5200€ (without Shipping to Germany) It is simply not worth it for me yet. If I ever do have the income over and make some money with my Art, it will 100% be the first Synth I buy (apart from the whole Eurorack moneysink). The sounds it creates touch a very special part in me, it is honestly the first Hardware Keyboard I truly fell in love with both it´s sound and Features.
Totally feel you! It's expensive especially outside of NA. Hopefully a new distribution deal can come through or they can make a cheaper module (you don't need the keyboard if you have a midi controller, its fine but nothing mind blowing to play like the X8). A cheaper module with 12 voices would be a great move for them I think.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Yes! A Module with that amount of voices would be amazing. I can totally understand if they choose not to do that though. The complete package of the Keyboard variant is just so well thought out and designed. But hey, one can dream :)
Great to see these new top of the lines synths again, especially when the prices of the vintage ones are a joke. This one can easily replace the PPG 2.2 and 2.3, same with the new Prophet 10, obx8 and Jupiter x withe their counterparts. Extra bonus these will not break down in the near future.
Depth, dimension, punch, sparkle... Everything is here. I love this synths audio quality and character. Unparalleled! 5.200 $ is too tough for me tho. 😢 Great video! Thank you.
When I first saw a video of the 3rd wave, I went to the web for a price. Wow! I read some. I own a Waldorf iridium keyboard and I just ignored it. Well, A few nights ago I decided to really look into it. I gotta say, it’s really itching! I can’t ignore it. What a brilliant creation. I hope groove synthesis sells enough of these to move on to more affordable instruments with this quality. And I am seriously considering being an owner myself. The broad reach of this synth is hard to ignore. The filter alone is worth the purchase.
Great comment! Yes, I understand its not cheap but honestly there's a good argument to be made that this could easily be the only synth you ever own. Check out my more recent video on using it as a Virtual Analog replacement!
I remember the days when each instrument you bought was for it's individual character. The PPG wave will forever be remembered for it's individualism and undeniable character. The 3rd Wave seems to have captured both perfectly and even improved on the original. Very impressive 👍
Lovely sounding synth. After being predominantly analogue since 1986 I'm a bit obsessed with wavetables atm in Vital and on the Iridium, The nice mix of digital oscillators and analogue filtering works wonders on this. I remember back in 87 playing a PPG 2.2 in a keyboard shop and always loved the look and feel of the thing.
Exactly my thoughts! The mix of crunchy wavetables into super high quality analog filters just works for me, such a balanced sound. Thanks for watching!
@@MilesAwayOfficial as a tip I highly recommend sampling sounds from ASMR videos on youtube and making your own wavetables.... would love to hear them on your new synth! I sample things like kalimba, bowls, glass harmonica and the like... otherworldly...
Didn't know this was associated with the PPG. DIdn't expect to like it when you made that connection. But... i do like it. And your characterization is quite apt. It does sound both like 'retro digital.' And i mean that in a positive way.
Thanks Miles! This synth is checking so many boxes it seems to me. 61 keys with aftertouch, great UI, retro/modern sounds, great build quality, now will be available in local stores (!), great analog filter. Only one question remains - will it mix well, like a Prophet 5, in context? I am saving and consigning gear to make this a possibility if I go this route. Seems very close to an all-rounder that covers many Poly bases.
Thanks for watching! Honestly, this synth mixes in super well, as long as you are patient with the gain staging side of things (check that section in the video). You can make it as bright, dark, clean, distorted - anything - as you want, once you get a feel for how that section works. That's what I love about it. It naturally tends to go crispy/PPG-ish (which is my fave sound usually), but its super easy to get it to hide underneath a mix with a darker sound if you just crank the saturation and turn on wave smoothing. You won't be disappointed!
It does not support poly-pressure aftertouch, which is unfortunate, and IMO, shameful at the price point. It does support it if you have another keyboard that does. Seems a critical oversight.
Even though it's a little outside my budget , I got one and, wow, as I dive in, I can see where every dollar was spent. Such a wide array of permutations with a very forgiving sweet spot. Sounds completely analog or digital. The interface is a creative powerhouse. Sculpting amazing sounds simply could not be any easier.
@5:30 is one of the most amazing and mind blowing sounds I've heard on a synth for the past three years. Amazingly cinematic and super large, those analog filters place this thing way way beyond the norm. Imagine this in Hans Zimmer's hands ? Or Tyler Bates, maybe Danny Elfman ? This has to be the award winning synth of the year. Cheers ! !
Thank you! Yea exactly, the lush analog filters paired with super crispy oscillators and high quality FM make it able to get super aggressive and metallic like that without sounding unpleasant and harsh. Thanks for watching!
Very nice vid - wish it was like a car dealership - seriously considering trading in my two Wave 2.2s in for a 3rd Wave - such a nice upgrade. I'm so tired of the maintenance fees for owning the PPGs.
Pretty cool. I have 2 prophet vs’s, and a ppg 2.3. The ppg is a 2 trick pony. Cascading through wavetables is the main thing. I also have an obx, and an obxa. Oberheim pads can’t be beat. Also, you don’t need effects on the prophet vs, or the ppg.
I personally don't think this needs FX either! I've got an OB-X8 and this stands toe to toe on almost every sound (I agree though, OB-X8 saw and pwm pads are unbeatable)
I am wondering if anyone one else got a yearning for the early 80s here. That beautiful sound of the PPG stays with you as a musician or not. This brilliant video review makes me want to raid my piggy bank. Great review.
Hello, I’ve never bought a synth, I’m not a trained pianist or anything like that but I want to learn how to use a synth that I can learn on, I would buy a chord book and learn some theory, but learning to play other peoples songs isn’t exciting for me, what would be a good synth for a beginner that is reasonably affordable Thank you
Check out my video on the Modal Cobalt 8! That's a great one, it has full sized keys and very good to learn on, good price too. Minilogue is another classic but it has mini keys and less features.
The fingerings that you use when you play are quite interesting. You seem to use your thumbs only as a last resort. Have you had piano lessons or are you self-taught?
Yea I’m not a real piano player, haha. I grew up playing guitar, and mainly producing music in the DAW. I’ve just been teaching myself piano a little bit over the last couple years.
Something added static to to the loudest transients in a digital piano track I just uploaded tonight. That happens every so often, and I wasn't bumped right up against 0dB. I think for most uploads it doesn't matter, but for audio that's closer to some edge case (I'm not sure which those are) YT can mess with the audio. A couple uploads ago, I posted some experimental track with TONS of masking, which really screwed with YT... The masking was fairly drastic yet balanced between the sources, and it seemed like YT was going back and forth between which part it would emphasize I'm the compression, and it sounds even wackier than my wav! But I don't care - it was an experiment. Moral of the story: just because Starsky can make patches wherev2 synths sound identical, doesn't mean all of their patches can sound identical. This is similar - most of my uploads sound identical between wav and YT, except for the volume normalization. But occasionally they don't match up. Usually it's added distortion around the peaks or the de-emphasis of a masked sound that actually WAS contributing to what you'd hear.
This and the Brian Johnson video are insane, going to be a tough choice between this and udo. A pro of the 3rd wave is when I’m not looking directly at it I can feel like I have a poly evolver
@MilesAway 3rd Wave is a wonderful thing, but for some reason I always seem to end up tracking with the Moog One 16, OBX8 and Super Gemini. Out of everything in your room the X8 is the crown jewel.
The price is 3x that of MODX8, for most users, it's like buying carbon bikes, they will not need more than 1500 worth of a bike, but love to have what they can barely own...
Yea but this has analog components and 24 voices, instead of 8. And better built quality, and many more hands on controls. You definitely don't need it to make music, but I actually feel the price is fair.
Muss das denn sein? Hat die Welt nicht schon genug Glocken Sounds?😂😁😜Schöner Synthesizer! Habe mir aber grade einen Iridium Keyboard von Waldorf gekauft.👍
@@MilesAwayOfficial Awesome. I will keep an eye out and will be buying. It's not that I don't find myself making neat sounds on the instrument, but there are always things others will come up with I that wouldn't think of and your sounds were great.
11:59 I think what you are talking about is interpolation, and the old PPG synths had that too. Aliasing is also the metallic artifacts that you heard if you play buzzy sounds at high octaves.
Hello miles away, i hope you are doing well. I am happy to see your channel is growing. Even if i am not fully into your music i have full respect for your musical output and point of view. Your channel is quite new and your path is still not written in stone. So here comes criticism just because i think you are able to do things differently cause i still believe in you. Please don't fall off the cliff and don't walk the same path than all the other big synth tuber. You can do better for the sake of music art. At the moment your concept is standart and the loss of substance is at the horizon. At the moment you do just what every big synthtuber does. What do you expect for the future? Do you want to release a video every week, showing something new? Never showing it again or just to compare it with something new? The dream of having dozens of synth and a lot of equipment which makes you happy is just a romantic fantasy. Owning a lot is a dark path like jexus said. Owning a lot of synth stuff doesn't make you happy and you will definitly loose focus. You could go this route. Companys may send you synth for a review and your studio will grow and grow.... Always something new to show is a bad fundament for you as an artist and youtuber. You just have a short period of time for every synth before going on to the next one. That doesn't fit. I see it in your videos that you have your own kind of taste for sweetspots and you show them very explicit and authentic. That is something you developed over time while exploring your instruments again and again. This route you are driving at the moment, i am afraid to say, will freeze your skill development and also your development as an artist. So it will go in reverse: equipment changes and you stay the same. Or this is the direction at least. How much time do you have? Spending 1 hour with one synth or 5 minutes with 12? That is a huge part of the fun playing a synthesizer! Exploring it. Finding secrets and create something unique, own and special. THAT NEEDS TIME. How crazy is it to release a video of a synth just released trying to show its full glory? Ambivalent? Did you recognize that the best and most special demos of synth come from noname youtuber with just a few hundred or thousend abonnements? And the big ones are technically good made visual content but all samey, samey and boring. So. It seems like the big ones are synth experts but they are just ordinary people lost in GAS where it is way more important what you making music/sounds with than (how) you making it. Look at ricky tinez for example. There is nothing left to say but he has to it seems. I really think at the beginning it is very nice but it transforms into a grudge more and more. And if you aren't happy with just getting in contact with new synth again and again, you are fckd. So i hope you could do something else than just showing new stuff. I hope that you can show why synth are beautiful. What you can do with it. The soul of the machine. There secrets. That the question if a synth is still relevant is stupid. That a nice base sound of a synth is just one side of the coin. That the player is more important than the machine and that you can't buy creativity and skills. It is obvious that the big ones stealing ideas from small creators and copying each other. When it becomes a job and you are known for something it can get difficult. Also if you are very true to your opinion about something your opinion has much more weight for the people. And some companys appreciate that. If there is something there is always something not. You don't have to do it this way is all i want to say. Of course you can if you want to. But i am very sure you are able to do it differently. Your very own way. For the sake of music art we all felt in love with. This whole influencer shit isn't really what art is about. It is the contrary! This is new in the synth domain but look at the fashion industry for example. Is this what we want? (Also fashion is art i mean but for the most part it is something else) superficiality? Love goes out and best regards.
Appreciate the comment and feedback Markus. I think where I have to be honest with you is I that unlike a lot of synthfluencers, I do the CZcams thing casually for fun- my artist project releasing music as Miles Away on labels / etc has always been my main professional niche and where I make income from my music. So I guess that is to say, I definitely don’t ever want to come across as someone fake jumping from one piece of gear to the next, and I also don’t just cover “gear”. If you actually look at a lot of my videos there a lots of creative tutorials, teaching videos, deep dives into sound design, etc. Sadly those never do very well on CZcams- the algorithm only seems to like my videos on new gear! So take a look back at those videos I think you will enjoy them, and I can also promise you I have some future videos on different things besides the latest synths. I just happen to be a total synth nerd (like everyone here) so I can’t help covering new stuff when it really appeals to me, hah.
This sounds superb and i def hear that ppg filter witch was a piece of art !! It's very very rare to find i synth that can be deep and still designed for Musicians !! A lot of time features implementation brings a lot of synth in the "sound desginers" territory at the cost of pure direct musician oriented vibe ... This synth seems to invate for play like an OB 6 / Korg prologue / Super 6 I wonder if the FX are global only or we can have dedicated sends or insert Fx for parts ?
With regard to Con #4- the way to get around that is to assign a modulator to the same destination TWICE, so that you would have (for example) Mod Wheel assigned to LFO 1 Frequency on two separate lines in the Mod Matrix, with an amount of 127 each. But yes, that is something that could perhaps be fixed in Firmware.
I know the board is all about wavetables, but that is basically the only thing you can find samples of. Any chance you could do a video showing how the VA side holds up against real analog or other VAs like Summit?
Its amazing! I prefer it's VA over summit since they added the vintage knob from the sequential stuff essentially. Check out 35:09 in the video, that's a VA sound I made
@@GrooveSynthesisMark Any chance for emulator II style sample playback? That'd be what many people would consider the final nail in the coffin to turn this into the must own synth of all time.
I think in terms of hybrid synths that can go toe to toe with analogs for sound quality, the UDO super6 is in this class as well. I own one and I don't want for sound quality. Now, multiple outputs, multi-timbrality, full wavetables, and 4x the voices certainly mean the 3rd wave is going to do things the Super6 just isn't... the base sound isn't an issue though. Believe me, mine sits right above an OB-6, but when I need to grab something to get a part down fast I go for the Super6 every time. Me likey the 3 waves though.
Oh man I LOVE the look and the sound of the Super 6. If I didn't get this I would have one, they sound amazing. I'd love to review one, but I can't get one locally without coughing up the cash! Lucky you! :)
Is the actual Upper Wavetable from the PPG 2.2/2.3 available too? You know, when you can modulate beyond the analogue style end waves into the actual ROM waves for those thimbledy-garbaldy-krinkity-thwock! tumbling sounds?
Tough question! That's a pretty great set up for digital already, I would probably look for something analog and really focused like a Prophet 5 / OB-X8 to compliment personally if I had your set up. But 3rd Wave is amazing
It's better than my $99 Reveal Spire VST which is spectacular, but it's not $4,900 better. I understand the playing experience, but quality frankly starts to get marginal after spending $1,600-$2,000 on a good hardware synth so it gets harder to justify $5,000 for this, Kronos or Nords. If money isn't a factor, then it is a great buy. Most musicians just don't have that kind of money and can create astounding sounds with Omnisphera, Diva or Reveal Spire for a much smaller investment.
Totally fair! Most of my early music was made on all software, so its totally not necessary to use hardware to make pro songs. But I just find hardware so fun and inspiring, and a lot of people do too, so that justifies the cost for some folks
You mean... is this the best modern synth re-imagining/remake of a classic synth? LOL But seriously... I have always wanted a PPG since I first heard one. First mistake I made, was getting a Korg WaveStation A/D instead of a Microwave I. In modular, I have 2 of the RR-SE SynthTech E-350 in 5U w/ Robert Rich added PPG and VS waves. Sadly... I will just have to spend $5k and get this.
Hah! That title would have been a bit long I'm afraid ;) but totally - I think if you love the PPG, nothing else gets close to that sound these days except maybe the Waldorf M. But where the 3rd Wave just goes way beyond a PPG/M, or honestly most modern synths is just the amount of depth and power under the hood with the multi-timbrality and mod matrix. If you get one enjoy!
You’d have to ask the Groove guys, they are very friendly - but I’m no PPG expert. All I can tell you is they have tons of PPG waves and they are super accurate
I'd say this is gonna be a lot better if you just want a synth; it has analog filters, 24 voices, one of the best dedicated knob per function layouts... but Fantom of course is a jack of all trades, not just a specialist synth like this
😂 can’t hate the CZcams title game LOL. Seriously though, I couldn’t tell you how lucky we are to have so many great choices. I still use my Korg prologue daily and still think that’s one of the best modern synths too
I actually sold my summit to fund the 3rd wave. Wish I could have kept both but I don't have the space or money to justify both since they are so similar. The 3rd wave basically fixed my biggest gripe with the summit which is the core tone of the oscillators being a bit dull and dark. Both are fantastic, but for me, the electric/sizzling raw tone of the 3rd wave is actually what I love. I do miss the distortion and drive on the Summit, those are better than the 3rd wave for sure.
It definitely falls into the Pro market for sure, but you might be able to find used if you look carefully because they were cheaper directly from Groove Synthesis last year
I have both! OB-X8 is classic, but it needs another synth in the studio to pair with, like a good digital or even a nice mono as well. The 3rd Wave can easily be the only synth you own, it does everything so well.
Hey, great video. Any idea how I can get OUT of the GLOBAL and MISC menus? You'd think if you pressed the button again it would get you out but I find that (at least on my unit) I have to arbitrarily edit some other parameter when I just want to leave the menu.
@@starchedshirt13 Please consider having the button that entered the menu also be the way out of the menu as it doesn't make sense to take one or two other completely unrelated steps. Thanks!
We poured our hearts and souls into the 3rd Wave and you've done a fantastic job of showing its depth, breadth, and history here, Devin. Great playing, too. We can't thank you enough.
You guys absolutely killed it! Bravo! Can’t wait to hear what’s next from your team :)
@@BigHairyCrank Thanks, Chris. We really appreciate your kind words. We're just getting started. Your support means everything to us. We have big plans.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Thanks, Devin. More stuff on the drawing board!
@@starchedshirt13 Any Desktop format on the menu ? Congrats for this superb homage !!
@@ZozillaThaGreat We've had many requests for a desktop version and are taking them very seriously. Nothing to announce at the moment. Stay tuned.
Near $5000. Very lovely.
I’d need to first win the Lottery.
Happy for you that you have one. From days of old, I know the feeling of receiving what will be a cherished synth.
I hope you do more episodes in the Wave. Would be nice merely to HEAR IT.
Thanks so much! I totally get its pricy, but like you said its a future classic. Did you hear my two other videos on the 3rd Wave? I did a custom patches playing only demo, and a Virtual Analog feature on it. Check em out!
This thing is incredible! However, the wife would punch me in the throat....
Excellent video! Thanks, Miles Away for really showing off some of what it is capable of. And of course, there is still a lot more beyond this. I love the patches near the beginning when you show us some of your creations. They are just smokin'!
Thank you Bob! You and the team seriously did an incredible job! :)
I listen to modern music as most people do, but my real passion is that 80's sound. So whilst it's nice to be able to create modern stuff, I love this synth for how it plays that 'classic' (PPG Wave) sound.
Totally! It’s the first synth I’ve ever used that absolutely nails both classic and modern!
Epic demo and review - one of the best I've seen on any synth on CZcams. Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Looks and sounds amazing. I guess I will never have the pleasure to play with such a great synth.
Never say never! :) but yea this is one of the best synths made in the last 40 years.
Thanks for making the video, it's the best I've watched. I've had a 3rd Wave for a few weeks and I'm still getting to grips with it and your video has helped immensely.
Glad it helped! I've got a custom patches set for the 3rd wave as well if you are interested!
Definitely one of the most amazing synths in a long time
Agreed!
Fantastic Demo Miles ! This sounds so amazing. We all truly value all your Synthesizer knowledge! I hope all is well in Your world 🌎. Mark Bensette Aux Bois 🇨🇦.
Thanks so much Mark! Really appreciate your support
@@MilesAwayOfficial Absolutely my pleasure! I learn something new on each of your Videos 📹. Very helpful ! My curse is that I hear a pretty much finished song when I find a cool patch..therfore I do that instead of really learning what all these boards can do.....lol
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Wow. I didn’t give this synth much consideration or watched videos on it until now… you made it sound amazing. Or it just sounds amazing. I need to dive into my wavetable synths more, they have so much potential.
Thanks so much! Big compliment!!
The way the display changes when you turn a knob is so refreshing. I don't know how to use a synth but this makes it look like a great beginner synth to teach a person the ropes.
Its a great feature! A couple synths have that as well I believe. Pro 2 and Pro 3 come to mind, pretty sure from memory there's more
Like the OB-X8, this sounds amazing even dry which to me is the mark of a great synth. Definitely on my list for next major synth acquisition ! 😂
Right on! My thoughts exactly. Thank you for watching!~
Hey man, I know a lot of people have said this already, but you are insanely talented! I'm so glad I found out about your works through "The Biggest Menace" series. I've probably listened to that intro theme about 10 times now lol. I don't know anything about synths or other electronic gear, but best believe I'll be sticking around.
Wow thanks so much! If you like my music, stay tuned, I have a new original song coming out in 3 days and then a full EP coming in a couple months :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Looking forward to it!
A Must with Headphones 🎧 On 😃 Wow 🤩 Yes I would agree probably the Best Synth Ever 💯 Incredible Sounds and Effects 👌 Awesome Demo as Always 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 😍 🙌
Thanks for watching Jay! Yea its got an incredibly 3 Dimensional sound with headphones on :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Absolutely 💯 the whole video sounded Incredible 👌 such epic sounds 😃 this was special 👌 😍 🙌
If i could afford it i would buy it right now!!! Amazing sounding instrument and it sounds so sweet to me ears. Excellent review.
Thanks a lot!
Such a musical and emotional synth. Great presentation.
Thank you!!
In answer to the question .... "YES!!!". I tried to pick one up at the initial delivery price of $3995 but I never was able to do so. Last Thursday, I ordered one from Sweetwater Sound (apparently the privileged "distributor") for $4995. That is the most I've ever spent on one synthesizer. My wife asked me, why?"", and the first thing that came to my mind in answer to her was "This is the first time since the Kurzweil K2000 that a synth has ever spoken to me". I had a PPG Wave 2.2 in by studio, that was purchased by a guy who was working with me at the time. It remained there for well over a year, and I played with it quite a bit. When the other guy finished grad school and move across the country he took the PPG with him. That was over 25 years ago. Often, I would find myself in a creative process where I wished that I had access to the PPG again. Originally, when I heard some of the first demos of the 3rd Wave, I was impressed at how much more it sounded like a PPG 2.2 than does the Waldorf "M", or even the Waldorf Quantum (I tried the "M' when It became available and I now have a Quantum as well as an Iridium Keyboard in my studio. Neither can produce sounds that are remotely close to a PPG Wave. Last week, after I heard about Waldorf's impending release of the Quantum 2, I needed to decide whether I would buy a 3rd Wave or a Quantum 2. Even at that time, I was pretty convinced I'd get the 3rd Wave. Then I got to hear Dan Fischer's (Sweetwater) 40-minute improvisation on the 3rd Wave. About ten minutes into the video realizes that I really needed this synth.
would you say there would be some overlap if you had both the M, and the 3rd Wave, or is the M distinct enough on it's own to justify keeping?
Amazing comment! Congrats on getting yours :) If you enjoyed my sounds in this video, they are all part of my upcoming custom patch bank, wink wink *
I love it, I started out with a Juno 106 back in the 80s and this is simply incredible. Hopefully one day I can get one!
Great first synth, I'm jealous! I hope you get one of these soon, I can safely say besides the OB-6 there's no other synth I recommend more.
Best digital synth since the PPG wave 2.2 and 2.3.
I've never been lucky enough to play an original PPG but this is certainly my fave!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I owned a PPG 2.2 and it was constantly in Middletown NY being repaired. The voice cards were susceptible to just about everything. I think it was allergic to my studio. It was literally out of the studio being repaired more than it was in the studio. I can't imagine what Geddy Lee's tech went through. Maybe they were lucky and I got the lemon? Polyphony was horrible.
Saturday vibe and much love 🌈❄️
Much love for watching! :)
Have a good day
Words can not describe how much I love this Synth. But at 5200€ (without Shipping to Germany) It is simply not worth it for me yet. If I ever do have the income over and make some money with my Art, it will 100% be the first Synth I buy (apart from the whole Eurorack moneysink). The sounds it creates touch a very special part in me, it is honestly the first Hardware Keyboard I truly fell in love with both it´s sound and Features.
Totally feel you! It's expensive especially outside of NA. Hopefully a new distribution deal can come through or they can make a cheaper module (you don't need the keyboard if you have a midi controller, its fine but nothing mind blowing to play like the X8). A cheaper module with 12 voices would be a great move for them I think.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Yes! A Module with that amount of voices would be amazing. I can totally understand if they choose not to do that though. The complete package of the Keyboard variant is just so well thought out and designed. But hey, one can dream :)
That 80s type intro was seriously dope. Thanks for the video
Glad you liked it! I post synth videos weekly and always try to make creative musical demo songs :)
Great to see these new top of the lines synths again, especially when the prices of the vintage ones are a joke.
This one can easily replace the PPG 2.2 and 2.3, same with the new Prophet 10, obx8 and Jupiter x withe their counterparts.
Extra bonus these will not break down in the near future.
Totally agree! Its a golden age. Check out my video on the OBX8 too, that one is mad special
Depth, dimension, punch, sparkle... Everything is here. I love this synths audio quality and character. Unparalleled!
5.200 $ is too tough for me tho. 😢
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks for watching! New synth videos regularly :)
the second i see the 5k mark lol
Sounds amazing! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
When I first saw a video of the 3rd wave, I went to the web for a price. Wow!
I read some. I own a Waldorf iridium keyboard and I just ignored it.
Well, A few nights ago I decided to really look into it.
I gotta say, it’s really itching! I can’t ignore it. What a brilliant creation.
I hope groove synthesis sells enough of these to move on to more affordable instruments with this quality.
And I am seriously considering being an owner myself. The broad reach of this synth is hard to ignore. The filter alone is worth the purchase.
Great comment! Yes, I understand its not cheap but honestly there's a good argument to be made that this could easily be the only synth you ever own. Check out my more recent video on using it as a Virtual Analog replacement!
I remember the days when each instrument you bought was for it's individual character. The PPG wave will forever be remembered for it's individualism and undeniable character. The 3rd Wave seems to have captured both perfectly and even improved on the original. Very impressive 👍
Couldn't agree more! Character over features has been my motto ever since I got my first synth :)
Sounds a bit like the Oberheim as well imo.
Lovely sounding synth. After being predominantly analogue since 1986 I'm a bit obsessed with wavetables atm in Vital and on the Iridium, The nice mix of digital oscillators and analogue filtering works wonders on this. I remember back in 87 playing a PPG 2.2 in a keyboard shop and always loved the look and feel of the thing.
Exactly my thoughts! The mix of crunchy wavetables into super high quality analog filters just works for me, such a balanced sound. Thanks for watching!
@@MilesAwayOfficial as a tip I highly recommend sampling sounds from ASMR videos on youtube and making your own wavetables.... would love to hear them on your new synth! I sample things like kalimba, bowls, glass harmonica and the like... otherworldly...
@@neilloughran4437 great tip! That opens up so many sound possibilities
@@MilesAwayOfficial it's been blowing my mind on my Iridium keyboard!
crunchy leads with bass split?
You have beautiful melodies in your head great video and demo
Thank you so much!!
Nice one. It sounds really good.
Cheers for watching!
It’s amazing. But $5000 is… a lot. Hurts my heart cuz I want one bad but there’s also other stuff my studio needs! 😢Maybe someday… sigh…❤
5k it's in direct competition with Obrahim OBX8.
In the 80s i used the PPG and loved it. this Wave3 is a perfect PPG3. Its on my list. The price is good
Lucky you using a vintage PPG! Enjoy your 3rd Wave when you get it and stay tuned for my custom patches :)
lookin forward after watchin this video to get one ASAP! Thanx MILES!
Thank you for watching! Enjoy!
Didn't know this was associated with the PPG. DIdn't expect to like it when you made that connection. But... i do like it. And your characterization is quite apt. It does sound both like 'retro digital.' And i mean that in a positive way.
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching :)
Thanks Miles! This synth is checking so many boxes it seems to me. 61 keys with aftertouch, great UI, retro/modern sounds, great build quality, now will be available in local stores (!), great analog filter. Only one question remains - will it mix well, like a Prophet 5, in context? I am saving and consigning gear to make this a possibility if I go this route. Seems very close to an all-rounder that covers many Poly bases.
Thanks for watching! Honestly, this synth mixes in super well, as long as you are patient with the gain staging side of things (check that section in the video). You can make it as bright, dark, clean, distorted - anything - as you want, once you get a feel for how that section works. That's what I love about it. It naturally tends to go crispy/PPG-ish (which is my fave sound usually), but its super easy to get it to hide underneath a mix with a darker sound if you just crank the saturation and turn on wave smoothing. You won't be disappointed!
It does not support poly-pressure aftertouch, which is unfortunate, and IMO, shameful at the price point. It does support it if you have another keyboard that does. Seems a critical oversight.
Thanks for bringing this beauty to my attention...
My pleasure 😊
Even though it's a little outside my budget , I got one and, wow, as I dive in, I can see where every dollar was spent. Such a wide array of permutations with a very forgiving sweet spot. Sounds completely analog or digital. The interface is a creative powerhouse. Sculpting amazing sounds simply could not be any easier.
Right on! Congrats on the synth and I couldn't agree more :)
@5:30 is one of the most amazing and mind blowing sounds I've heard on a synth for the past three years. Amazingly cinematic and super large, those analog filters place this thing way way beyond the norm. Imagine this in Hans Zimmer's hands ? Or Tyler Bates, maybe Danny Elfman ? This has to be the award winning synth of the year. Cheers ! !
Thank you! Yea exactly, the lush analog filters paired with super crispy oscillators and high quality FM make it able to get super aggressive and metallic like that without sounding unpleasant and harsh. Thanks for watching!
Hans Zimmer sux
@@Junglesmells He said to imagine one in Zimmer's hands, but I also imagined it in Zimmer's mouth instead... weird
@@Junglesmellstrue, literally, Alex brandon is a legend video game composer he faarts on Hans Zimmer.
Miles, this is amazing.
Thanks!
The sound at 5:30 is monster. I could jam on that one every day.
Thank you! Hyped you enjoyed :)
Great demo. Sounds fantastic. That binaural sound!!!!
Thank you! Stay tuned for another 3rd Wave video next week actually.
Very nice vid - wish it was like a car dealership - seriously considering trading in my two Wave 2.2s in for a 3rd Wave - such a nice upgrade. I'm so tired of the maintenance fees for owning the PPGs.
Very cool you own the originals though! Any idea how close this sounds?
that's awesome you have classics you maintain
Amazing sounding synth
Thanks!
Pretty cool. I have 2 prophet vs’s, and a ppg 2.3. The ppg is a 2 trick pony. Cascading through wavetables is the main thing. I also have an obx, and an obxa. Oberheim pads can’t be beat. Also, you don’t need effects on the prophet vs, or the ppg.
I personally don't think this needs FX either! I've got an OB-X8 and this stands toe to toe on almost every sound (I agree though, OB-X8 saw and pwm pads are unbeatable)
I cannot believe that there’s no other synth on the market like this one at more affordable price.
Closest cheap option would be Argon 8, I did a video on it, check it out!
@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks
I am wondering if anyone one else got a yearning for the early 80s here. That beautiful sound of the PPG stays with you as a musician or not. This brilliant video review makes me want to raid my piggy bank. Great review.
Thank you so much! It really does bring that 80s nostalgia eh!
Dude, go ahead and raid that piggy bank, you won't regret it!
Wow, sounds just like the original. The only thing missing is the monitor and floppy disk drives for it.
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching!!
Wow! One of the most interesting synths recently.
I agree! Thanks for watching :)
Excellent demo and review, too expensive for me though, wait for the Behringer version
Thanks for watching!
Hello, I’ve never bought a synth, I’m not a trained pianist or anything like that but I want to learn how to use a synth that I can learn on, I would buy a chord book and learn some theory, but learning to play other peoples songs isn’t exciting for me, what would be a good synth for a beginner that is reasonably affordable
Thank you
Check out my video on the Modal Cobalt 8! That's a great one, it has full sized keys and very good to learn on, good price too. Minilogue is another classic but it has mini keys and less features.
Great demo!
Thanks!
The fingerings that you use when you play are quite interesting. You seem to use your thumbs only as a last resort. Have you had piano lessons or are you self-taught?
Yea I’m not a real piano player, haha. I grew up playing guitar, and mainly producing music in the DAW. I’ve just been teaching myself piano a little bit over the last couple years.
Starsky Carr proved that CZcams Compression significantly changing the audio from the original upload is not really a thing.
The more you know!
Something added static to to the loudest transients in a digital piano track I just uploaded tonight. That happens every so often, and I wasn't bumped right up against 0dB. I think for most uploads it doesn't matter, but for audio that's closer to some edge case (I'm not sure which those are) YT can mess with the audio. A couple uploads ago, I posted some experimental track with TONS of masking, which really screwed with YT... The masking was fairly drastic yet balanced between the sources, and it seemed like YT was going back and forth between which part it would emphasize I'm the compression, and it sounds even wackier than my wav! But I don't care - it was an experiment. Moral of the story: just because Starsky can make patches wherev2 synths sound identical, doesn't mean all of their patches can sound identical. This is similar - most of my uploads sound identical between wav and YT, except for the volume normalization. But occasionally they don't match up. Usually it's added distortion around the peaks or the de-emphasis of a masked sound that actually WAS contributing to what you'd hear.
This and the Brian Johnson video are insane, going to be a tough choice between this and udo.
A pro of the 3rd wave is when I’m not looking directly at it I can feel like I have a poly evolver
Ooh I love the Poly Evolver, would love to borrow one to try!
incredible demo
Thank you!
Very nice machine - even this cool blue gabinet. I'm almost calling my bank manager! thank for post.
Thanks for watching!
So cool that Tangerine Dream had a hand in the design of the PPG.
Didn't know that, very cool!
@MilesAway 3rd Wave is a wonderful thing, but for some reason I always seem to end up tracking with the Moog One 16, OBX8 and Super Gemini. Out of everything in your room the X8 is the crown jewel.
Thats a sick collection! The X8 grew on me a ton since the updates. Always liked the sound but the flow is better now
Yay another synth review😍
Thanks for watching!
@ 5:30 --> I think you might've just opened a gate for the Armies of Hell to march through. Nice job 😉
HAH, great description of that sound
The circuit drift function alone almost makes the price worth while. That being said, this synth is the only modern synths I'd consider getting.
Agreed! They nailed it with circuit drift. What vintage synths do you like more than modern?
best synth
agreed!
The price is 3x that of MODX8, for most users, it's like buying carbon bikes, they will not need more than 1500 worth of a bike, but love to have what they can barely own...
Yea but this has analog components and 24 voices, instead of 8. And better built quality, and many more hands on controls. You definitely don't need it to make music, but I actually feel the price is fair.
@@MilesAwayOfficial How would this compare to the Yamaha Montage M 8x?
@@celpabednapples and oranges. Either you like the workflow and sound or you don't. Only you can decide for yourself at the end of the day
Muss das denn sein? Hat die Welt nicht schon genug Glocken Sounds?😂😁😜Schöner Synthesizer! Habe mir aber grade einen Iridium Keyboard von Waldorf gekauft.👍
Love these types
Thanks!
Great video and sounds. I see you make patches and had some custom ones here. Are you planning on doing a patch bank for the 3rd Wave?
Absolutely! It’s about halfway done. All the non PPG factory patches are ones I made for the pack :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Awesome. I will keep an eye out and will be buying. It's not that I don't find myself making neat sounds on the instrument, but there are always things others will come up with I that wouldn't think of and your sounds were great.
11:59 I think what you are talking about is interpolation, and the old PPG synths had that too. Aliasing is also the metallic artifacts that you heard if you play buzzy sounds at high octaves.
Appreciate the correction! PPG old tech is fascinating
Hello miles away,
i hope you are doing well. I am happy to see your channel is growing. Even if i am not fully into your music i have full respect for your musical output and point of view.
Your channel is quite new and your path is still not written in stone. So here comes criticism just because i think you are able to do things differently cause i still believe in you.
Please don't fall off the cliff and don't walk the same path than all the other big synth tuber. You can do better for the sake of music art.
At the moment your concept is standart and the loss of substance is at the horizon.
At the moment you do just what every big synthtuber does.
What do you expect for the future?
Do you want to release a video every week, showing something new? Never showing it again or just to compare it with something new?
The dream of having dozens of synth and a lot of equipment which makes you happy is just a romantic fantasy. Owning a lot is a dark path like jexus said. Owning a lot of synth stuff doesn't make you happy and you will definitly loose focus.
You could go this route. Companys may send you synth for a review and your studio will grow and grow....
Always something new to show is a bad fundament for you as an artist and youtuber.
You just have a short period of time for every synth before going on to the next one.
That doesn't fit. I see it in your videos that you have your own kind of taste for sweetspots and you show them very explicit and authentic. That is something you developed over time while exploring your instruments again and again.
This route you are driving at the moment, i am afraid to say, will freeze your skill development and also your development as an artist. So it will go in reverse: equipment changes and you stay the same. Or this is the direction at least.
How much time do you have?
Spending 1 hour with one synth or 5 minutes with 12?
That is a huge part of the fun playing a synthesizer! Exploring it. Finding secrets and create something unique, own and special.
THAT NEEDS TIME.
How crazy is it to release a video of a synth just released trying to show its full glory? Ambivalent?
Did you recognize that the best and most special demos of synth come from noname youtuber with just a few hundred or thousend abonnements? And the big ones are technically good made visual content but all samey, samey and boring.
So.
It seems like the big ones are synth experts but they are just ordinary people lost in GAS where it is way more important what you making music/sounds with than (how) you making it.
Look at ricky tinez for example. There is nothing left to say but he has to it seems.
I really think at the beginning it is very nice but it transforms into a grudge more and more.
And if you aren't happy with just getting in contact with new synth again and again, you are fckd.
So i hope you could do something else than just showing new stuff. I hope that you can show why synth are beautiful. What you can do with it.
The soul of the machine. There secrets. That the question if a synth is still relevant is stupid. That a nice base sound of a synth is just one side of the coin. That the player is more important than the machine and that you can't buy creativity and skills.
It is obvious that the big ones stealing ideas from small creators and copying each other. When it becomes a job and you are known for something it can get difficult. Also if you are very true to your opinion about something your opinion has much more weight for the people. And some companys appreciate that.
If there is something there is always something not.
You don't have to do it this way is all i want to say. Of course you can if you want to.
But i am very sure you are able to do it differently. Your very own way. For the sake of music art we all felt in love with.
This whole influencer shit isn't really what art is about. It is the contrary!
This is new in the synth domain but look at the fashion industry for example. Is this what we want? (Also fashion is art i mean but for the most part it is something else)
superficiality?
Love goes out and best regards.
Appreciate the comment and feedback Markus. I think where I have to be honest with you is I that unlike a lot of synthfluencers, I do the CZcams thing casually for fun- my artist project releasing music as Miles Away on labels / etc has always been my main professional niche and where I make income from my music.
So I guess that is to say, I definitely don’t ever want to come across as someone fake jumping from one piece of gear to the next, and I also don’t just cover “gear”. If you actually look at a lot of my videos there a lots of creative tutorials, teaching videos, deep dives into sound design, etc. Sadly those never do very well on CZcams- the algorithm only seems to like my videos on new gear! So take a look back at those videos I think you will enjoy them, and I can also promise you I have some future videos on different things besides the latest synths. I just happen to be a total synth nerd (like everyone here) so I can’t help covering new stuff when it really appeals to me, hah.
@@MilesAwayOfficial yes!
I think it is awesome. Flagships are OK, but I like synthesizers.
thanks for watching!
yay, I hit 888, lucky number, best wishes to you!!
Nice!! Thank you!
This sounds superb and i def hear that ppg filter witch was a piece of art !! It's very very rare to find i synth that can be deep and still designed for Musicians !! A lot of time features implementation brings a lot of synth in the "sound desginers" territory at the cost of pure direct musician oriented vibe ... This synth seems to invate for play like an OB 6 / Korg prologue / Super 6
I wonder if the FX are global only or we can have dedicated sends or insert Fx for parts ?
Each of the 4 multiparts has 2 effects available.
Thanks so much for listening! Glad you enjoy
With regard to Con #4- the way to get around that is to assign a modulator to the same destination TWICE, so that you would have (for example) Mod Wheel assigned to LFO 1 Frequency on two separate lines in the Mod Matrix, with an amount of 127 each. But yes, that is something that could perhaps be fixed in Firmware.
Good workaround for now! But yea I'd like to see a higher amount per slot.
I know the board is all about wavetables, but that is basically the only thing you can find samples of. Any chance you could do a video showing how the VA side holds up against real analog or other VAs like Summit?
Its amazing! I prefer it's VA over summit since they added the vintage knob from the sequential stuff essentially. Check out 35:09 in the video, that's a VA sound I made
So are these guys the New Behringer? What's the price and yes it does look great and sound great,
We are definitely not the new Behringer. Bite your tongue. ; )
@@starchedshirt13😂 just ordered mine yesterday you guys rock!
Thank you! We appreciate your support. We continue to add cool stuff to the 3rd Wave, so stay tuned! @@NikoNoxious
@@GrooveSynthesisMark Any chance for emulator II style sample playback? That'd be what many people would consider the final nail in the coffin to turn this into the must own synth of all time.
@@GrooveSynthesisMark and thank you for your unparalleled professionalism and customer service 🙂
I think in terms of hybrid synths that can go toe to toe with analogs for sound quality, the UDO super6 is in this class as well. I own one and I don't want for sound quality. Now, multiple outputs, multi-timbrality, full wavetables, and 4x the voices certainly mean the 3rd wave is going to do things the Super6 just isn't... the base sound isn't an issue though. Believe me, mine sits right above an OB-6, but when I need to grab something to get a part down fast I go for the Super6 every time. Me likey the 3 waves though.
Oh man I LOVE the look and the sound of the Super 6. If I didn't get this I would have one, they sound amazing. I'd love to review one, but I can't get one locally without coughing up the cash! Lucky you! :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Keep in touch, I may be able to send you mine for a few months later this year.
how does the 3rd wave compete with Waldorf Quantum mk2 ?
ppg wave ...tom sawyer by Rush! classic and not easy to use too..Nice video man!
thanks so much! This definitely does a great tom sawyer bass sound, but check out my Oberheim videos for that too!
PPG has Tangerine Dream written all over it. I bet one was used in the TG Legend soundtrack.
Absolutely! It totally has their sound
i want a stripped down 'virus sized' desktop version
I heard they are thinking about it by how many requests they got! I told them they should do that as well.
Answer to your question: YES. I WANT a 3rd Wave. Gimme now!
Highly recommended!
Is the actual Upper Wavetable from the PPG 2.2/2.3 available too? You know, when you can modulate beyond the analogue style end waves into the actual ROM waves for those thimbledy-garbaldy-krinkity-thwock! tumbling sounds?
Yes!
Yep!
Man I want one
You would love this one dude!
I need that patch at 4:30 !
A custom patch bank for the 3rd wave is coming and all these sounds I made are in it! Stay tuned to my channel :)
I want one so bad 😂
if you get one you wont regret it!
at least it looks supercool
Hi. I have one Iridium Keyboard, Hydrasynth Deluxe and Jupiet X. Do you think that 3rd Waves could complement what I have? Or it will be duplicated.
Tough question! That's a pretty great set up for digital already, I would probably look for something analog and really focused like a Prophet 5 / OB-X8 to compliment personally if I had your set up. But 3rd Wave is amazing
For pads, get an Oberheim.
True that! But the 3W does some really cool ones.
😮😮😮💯💯🌅🌅🌅💥💥💥amazing ,incredible machine
Agreed! Thanks for watching :)
amazing instrument..... I want one !! How much does it cost ? 3000 dollars ?
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It's better than my $99 Reveal Spire VST which is spectacular, but it's not $4,900 better. I understand the playing experience, but quality frankly starts to get marginal after spending $1,600-$2,000 on a good hardware synth so it gets harder to justify $5,000 for this, Kronos or Nords. If money isn't a factor, then it is a great buy. Most musicians just don't have that kind of money and can create astounding sounds with Omnisphera, Diva or Reveal Spire for a much smaller investment.
Totally fair! Most of my early music was made on all software, so its totally not necessary to use hardware to make pro songs. But I just find hardware so fun and inspiring, and a lot of people do too, so that justifies the cost for some folks
@@MilesAwayOfficial No denying the thrill and feel of handling the real thing.
You mean... is this the best modern synth re-imagining/remake of a classic synth? LOL But seriously... I have always wanted a PPG since I first heard one. First mistake I made, was getting a Korg WaveStation A/D instead of a Microwave I. In modular, I have 2 of the RR-SE SynthTech E-350 in 5U w/ Robert Rich added PPG and VS waves. Sadly... I will just have to spend $5k and get this.
Hah! That title would have been a bit long I'm afraid ;) but totally - I think if you love the PPG, nothing else gets close to that sound these days except maybe the Waldorf M. But where the 3rd Wave just goes way beyond a PPG/M, or honestly most modern synths is just the amount of depth and power under the hood with the multi-timbrality and mod matrix. If you get one enjoy!
I use the PPG 360a (Before 2.2). Did they include those waveforms?
You’d have to ask the Groove guys, they are very friendly - but I’m no PPG expert. All I can tell you is they have tons of PPG waves and they are super accurate
How would something like this compare to the synth section of a Roland Fantom? Not the entire Fantom, but the synth section.
I'd say this is gonna be a lot better if you just want a synth; it has analog filters, 24 voices, one of the best dedicated knob per function layouts... but Fantom of course is a jack of all trades, not just a specialist synth like this
It’s was synth END GAME just 5 months ago 🤣 Imagine another 6 months on this synth and $3k more… that’s the synth I want baby!! Nice video though 👍
😂 can’t hate the CZcams title game LOL. Seriously though, I couldn’t tell you how lucky we are to have so many great choices. I still use my Korg prologue daily and still think that’s one of the best modern synths too
Since you also have the Novation Summit, how do these two synths compare ? if you had to chose one which one would it be ?
I actually sold my summit to fund the 3rd wave. Wish I could have kept both but I don't have the space or money to justify both since they are so similar. The 3rd wave basically fixed my biggest gripe with the summit which is the core tone of the oscillators being a bit dull and dark. Both are fantastic, but for me, the electric/sizzling raw tone of the 3rd wave is actually what I love. I do miss the distortion and drive on the Summit, those are better than the 3rd wave for sure.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I which I could aim for the 3rd Wave but it's very expensive. I'll probably have to settle for the Summit.
@@Venatt1 still a fantastic synth believe me! Summit is all over my recent releases and sounds great. We are spoiled in a golden age of synths
Just found out it's actually 5000 dollars, WOW ! That's a bit extreme !!
Not more expensive than other top synths like the Prophet 10 and oberheim OBX8.
It definitely falls into the Pro market for sure, but you might be able to find used if you look carefully because they were cheaper directly from Groove Synthesis last year
This or the Ob-xA....or both. But which first?
I have both! OB-X8 is classic, but it needs another synth in the studio to pair with, like a good digital or even a nice mono as well. The 3rd Wave can easily be the only synth you own, it does everything so well.
Hey, great video. Any idea how I can get OUT of the GLOBAL and MISC menus? You'd think if you pressed the button again it would get you out but I find that (at least on my unit) I have to arbitrarily edit some other parameter when I just want to leave the menu.
Press any other button or turn any know. Hold down the "Compare" button and turn a knob if you want to NOT affect the parameter values.
i don't believe there is - my go to setting to touch is always just to wiggle one of the aux envelopes since I almost never use all 4
@@starchedshirt13 Please consider having the button that entered the menu also be the way out of the menu as it doesn't make sense to take one or two other completely unrelated steps. Thanks!
Yes.
Wish i could afford it for my next album lol. Maybe rent one if i could find one to rent.
I'm sure a lot of big premiere studios will buy one!